In short
Pete Rock discusses his career and hip-hop production legacy, the CL Smooth split, and how classic records were made; he also reflects on industry relationships, ego/jealousy, and culture/community dynamics, with extended talk about specific songs and beats.
Guests
Pete Rock is the main guest—Bronx-born producer/DJ/MC known for crafting influential sample-based beats. Joe and Jada (hosts) are present; they discuss New York culture (Knicks) and hip-hop history, and prompt Pete Rock with questions.
Key claims
- The CL Smooth breakup happened because personalities didn’t fully align once they got closer; jealousy is cited as a major factor.
- Pete says he wishes he had explicitly credited Heavy D as both idol and friend, and that Heavy D “opened the door” for others.
- Pete argues some artist egos become unmanageable once they’re successful, and that “logical uncles” are needed to keep younger artists grounded.
- He emphasizes being a fan first as the driver of his production style.
Notable examples
- “Illmatic” (Nas) and “Lean Back,” “Make It Rain,” “Candy Shop” (Scott Storch collaborations mentioned).
- “They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)” (Pete Rock’s production influence and Westchester/Mount Vernon pride).
- “Don’t Curse” (story about building a concept record with multiple rap cameos).
- Heavy D, Diamond D, Lord Finesse, Kedar Massenburg, Jam Master Jay, Large Professor, and G-Wiz/Trouble T-Roy referenced.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPete Rock's Influence in Hip Hop
2:36 to 4:00
Discussion about Pete Rock's legacy and influence in the hip hop scene.
“When you think of today's guest, you think of hip hop.”
The Impact of Heavy D
4:00 to 6:38
Pete Rock shares memories and the impact Heavy D had on his career.
“I see PR, he's like you, he's going crazy, or he's defending the Knicks.”
Challenges in Collaborations
6:38 to 9:24
Exploration of the challenges and complexities of musical collaborations.
“I remember us going to Hev's garage, him on a punching bag as young locks, giving us words of encouragement and telling us what, you know, the do's and don'ts to look out for in the industry.”
Navigating the Music Industry
9:24 to 12:06
Pete Rock discusses navigating the music industry and artist relationships.
“At first, I was mad at the fact that I had to deal with somebody of this stature who's very different from me.”
Iconic Hip Hop Beats
12:06 to 14:02
A conversation about some of the most iconic hip hop beats and their impact.
“I go and I get myself in a situation where I can sign people and give them half a million, million dollars, this, this, that, use all my juice.”
Exploring the Greatest Hip-Hop Beats
14:02 to 19:21
Discussing iconic hip-hop beats and their emotional impact.
“What I'm talking about is the beat, right?”
Nostalgia and Influence in Hip-Hop
19:21 to 25:56
The influence of past artists on contemporary hip-hop and personal experiences.
“Fuck race Man Goosebumps Yeah Rest in peace Trouble T-Roy That was my man Man That fucking album, man That was What it do for you?”
MC Shan and the Business of Sampling
30:53 to 35:19
Delve into the complexities of music sampling and industry relationships.
“The last shit I put out, The Paradise for Stevie Beach, I paid for the sample to the niggas that own it.”
The Reality of the Hip-Hop Community
35:19 to 37:26
Explore the dynamics and challenges within the hip-hop community.
“Y 'all got to keep that 1800 coming because I like this chick.”
Recollections from the Hip-Hop Scene
37:26 to 41:42
Hear stories about personal relationships and memorable encounters in hip-hop.
“But he was behind the scenes in Beach Street and shit.”
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Don't Curse Track Discussion
41:42 to 42:00
Discuss the significance of the 'Don't Curse' track and its impact.
“Freaking for your new beer to make it go the other way.”
Kick Facts and Musical Flow
42:00 to 43:12
Explore the creative process and lyrical flow in hip-hop.
“You're hearing me I'm here to kick facts.”
The Influence of CL Smooth and Fun Times
43:12 to 44:56
Reflect on memorable experiences and collaborations in hip-hop.
“Here I can see I'm slain very down to earth.”
Producers and Their Craft
44:56 to 47:28
Discuss the top hip-hop producers and their unique styles.
“They can come back from the bathroom and it's fucked up.”
Ice-T and Community Impact
47:28 to 52:44
Examine Ice-T's influence and notable performances in hip-hop culture.
“I never forget they threw this, you know, it was a concert, but not really because it was at the movie theater we used to watch.”
Basketball Trades and Team Dynamics
52:44 to 54:44
Debate trading strategies and player value in basketball.
“Jonathan Mitchell was in my house on New York Nick.”
Fashion and Homelessness Story
56:55 to 1:01:04
A conversation about interactions with a homeless person and fashion choices.
“Generated assets is an interactive analysis tool.”
Street Stories and Life Lessons
1:01:05 to 1:04:52
Sharing experiences of being robbed and the lessons learned from those moments.
“I took the one for next year, but I was actually about to say, nigga, you dead.”
Karma and Music
1:04:53 to 1:06:42
Discussing the concept of karma in life and music, referencing a favorite song.
“And I stood in my mother's house for like that four-day Christmas.”
Gangsta and Gentleman in Hip Hop
1:06:43 to 1:10:01
Exploration of hip hop culture through a discussion about albums and artist identities.
“aw yeah you remember the video where we did the video in Essex County in a real jam straighten it out video song with the YG yeah that shit is fire straighten it out and we did that video Timeless.”
Exploring the Gangsta Image in Hip Hop
1:10:01 to 1:11:46
Discussion about various artists and their gangster personas in hip hop.
“Why don't you come fuck with a gangster?”
Collaboration Stories and Unreleased Hits
1:11:46 to 1:13:39
Pete Rock shares his experiences with fellow artists and unreleased tracks.
“LB used that same sandwich for a joint for me.”
Influential Beats and Personal Reflections
1:13:39 to 1:15:30
Discussion on iconic beats and the emotional impact of legendary tracks.
“the way he was using was like he sounded like AI in that day shit sounded like motion pictures.”
The Legacy of Diss Tracks in Hip Hop
1:15:30 to 1:17:33
The conversation shifts to the significance of diss tracks and their cultural impact.
“What was the hottest beef record in the game?”
The Future of Hip Hop and Youth Engagement
1:21:02 to 1:24:00
Discussion about the future of hip hop and connecting with younger generations.
“When I'm in there, maybe 10 of the stars listening in there.”
Connecting with the Youth through Music
1:24:00 to 1:25:00
Learn how artists engage with younger generations to understand their music preferences.
“it's going to be up to us to really have them connect with what we do.”
The Impact of Alchemist in Modern Production
1:25:00 to 1:26:30
Discover the significance of Alchemist in the hip-hop production landscape.
“I'm going to say he shines through Alchemist.”
The Quest for Raw Sound in Music
1:26:30 to 1:27:40
Explore the challenges artists face in finding authentic sounds in modern music production.
“Even that joint y 'all just played, the Gangsta Gangsta That's some horn.”
Hip Hop's Roots in Sampling and Jazz
1:27:40 to 1:29:40
Understand how hip-hop is deeply rooted in sampling various music genres.
“Even when they do the raw sound, they'll do something glossy.”
Memorable Moments from Hip-Hop History
1:29:40 to 1:31:30
Hear about influential artists and unforgettable performances in hip-hop history.
“And I'm going to tell you, we did the 50th anniversary in Yankee Stadium.”
Nostalgia in Hip-Hop: Favorite Jams and Influences
1:31:30 to 1:33:20
Revisit favorite songs and their impact on the hip-hop culture during formative years.
“And you went to the, they had the jams in, was it around the same time as the Bronx?”
Transcript
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2:09All I need is one piece of P-Rock. You gotta do is pull up.
2:25What up, y 'all? This is Joe Cracked at Dawn. Your boy Jada, man. It's the Joe and Jada show. Things are changing in life. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. You know what I mean? Shout out to 1800 Tequila. 1800. You know, we do it different over here. When you think of today's guest, you think of hip hop. You ain't never lie. Capital letters iced out hip hop. You think of from the basement. Some of the craziest records that ever land on your eardrums came out of his basement. you think of rest in peace heavy D you know what I mean you think of Mount Vernon money earning on the map you think of you just think of great production you think of a timeless legacy one of the first producers slash DJs slash MCs that have bars that was arguably better than the best bars on the show yeah you know what I mean and that's hard to have back then from way back.
3:29Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, make some noise for my brother Pete Rock. Yeah! Man, it's such an honor to be here, fellas. Appreciate you. I support y 'all. I'm on the ground. Sometimes I repost y 'alls. You repost anything with the Yankees and Knicks. That's it. You argue with anybody. They could be from Yugoslavia. anytime anybody says anything about that Knicks, when I go to the comment section, I see PR, he's like you, he's going crazy, or he's defending the Knicks. They don't give a fuck. They don't want to see us. They don't want to see us. We win, man. Free Rock, why you think they hate New York so much?
4:13Because we do it. Because we started a lot here. From fashion, to music, to slang, everything you could imagine. You know what I'm saying? started in New York. They don't want us to win, man. I would be jealous, too, if I was from out of town. How about that? How about they say we got an accent? Yeah, it's our accent. We do got an accent, baby. Yeah. P-Bot, first of all, let me ask you a question. Because you... Go ahead. Let's get my Freddie. Yeah, man. All right, I'm going to let you take the lead. I gotta ask you this one. I'm coming on here to keep it a beam with everything. If y 'all wanna ask me whatever.
5:00That's just, let's go baby. Why is it me? Load him up. I ain't got no controversy for Pete Rock. It don't have to be controversial. Yeah, yeah, I ain't got all that, but what I wanted to ask you, Pete Rock, right? Because it's important to me. I'm just asking you. You can tell me yes, no, whatever. Do you feel the love and the influence I have from Heavy D? because you know you watch everything on the gram you watch everything I try to salute him to the highest. He opened the door. Dance, you know dancing it's late. I used to dance like Heavy D man when I was drunk Hopefully we can get a clip of that James you can find one cracky.
5:40The question is I know how much you love Heavy D there's a lot of people do you feel like Fat Joe try to give it up to Heavy D as much as he can? Yes. Yes. I feel like he opened the door for like the way he's like. Man, yes. You know what I'm saying? Like he opened the door. Marky D. I used to always say that they looked alike. Prince Marky D. from the Fab Lords. And then once people get inspired, you know, it just multiplies, bro. Like everyone just starts picking up the inspiration. Not even, they don't even, they can't even help it at times. Because I got a guilt, right? Now that I'm talking to you, I realize I got a guilt because Heavy D not only was my idol, but he became a good friend of mine.
6:22He fly to Miami, hang out with us. But I never grabbed his shoulder, looked him in his eyes and say, yo, I'm here because of you. You inspired me on that level. It wasn't for you. I would have never believed that whatever I'm doing is capable. and so that's why every chance I get and I reminisce I have, I post them, I this and that but I'm kind of mad at myself maybe it was the era we was in where everybody had to act tough too cool to tell them that a lot of people ain't tell them that a lot of people ain't tell them that that's responsible for holding their hand in the dark and walking you in this business man I know that I remember he helped Rough Riders figure out how to navigate their way in the game.
7:09Yeah. I told them what to do with X. I remember us going to Hev's garage, him on a punching bag as young locks, giving us words of encouragement and telling us what, you know, the do's and don'ts to look out for in the industry. So I appreciate Hev's time on earth and knowledge and, you know what I mean, everything he did for the culture and for me personally and for the locks. Yeah. And so imagine being under that every day. You know what I'm saying? So I came out of that. You got Eddie F. What was the other dude, the Heavy D and the Boys? G-Wiz. G-Wiz and Trouble T-Roy. Well, Trouble T-Roy is a real guy.
7:52Let me salute him now. You know, he's the one that moved down to Miami and all that, right? Troy? No, that's G-Wiz. G-Wiz. Trouble T-Roy, rest in peace. Yes. G-Wiz is a real dude. He know what I'm talking about. out. And, you know, he's a solid guy. Cut from the cloth, man. Then you got your man, um, you know, I'll try to get y 'all both at the 30th anniversary. I remember. See how smooth. People don't know what you're talking about. You can't have side relations. Well, you know, I did the - Oh, crap. Come on, dog. I don't even know what's going on. Come on, crap. This month, this month. we're having side federal drug talk with him on this no I'm saying CL Smooth right I try to get P Brock and CL Smooth at the joint I came out at the lean back 20th anniversary in Apollo and P Brock said no way I forgot how did that fall apart and is it to the death like hmm you know in this business, bro.
9:02Like, when you come across different personalities, but you match with one talent-wise, but, like, physically and mentally, it don't work. You know, in the very beginning, it worked, but once you don't get to really know each other, the real them comes out. And it stirs up a bad character in me that I don't want to come out. At first, I was mad at the fact that I had to deal with somebody of this stature who's very different from me. What would you say is his fault, though? Jelly. Jealousy. It's a bad... He's a rapper. You're the DJ. He's everything. So you say he was jealous of your own success?
9:52He has that. In him. And that don't work for grown people. When you're growing into a man that don't work no more when we get older. Like, you just just be like, come on, man. I'm like that a lot. I think that's how I'm able, like, I ain't catch a heart attack, God forbid, or a stroke yet because I just lay off that when it dudes act crazy. Yeah. 246. Yeah, this guy full of shit. Yeah, listen. When I get to the 142, oh, shit. But I don't think I can be one. Can I be 142? You can't be 142. I don't want to look. You might lose fans. I don't want to look like a crackhead. I don't want to look like...
10:32Here go Wolfwood. You go 220. I don't want to look sick. And CL is a little... CL is very talented to me. A lot of people used to not get what he used to say. You know what I'm saying? Like, but he got a great voice. He can rap. And I wish we never broke up. I wish we could have still been together. I wish he was a certain way. You know, but sometimes it just happens like that, man. You can't control it wrong, man. because it's like rumors of like naughty by nature. They do shows, but they don't even talk to each other. They stay in. That's it. I wish I could do that, though. I wish I could do that.
11:09You can't even do that for the man. It's kind of like awkward, though. I can't. How could you have chemistry on stage? Then when it's over, you go in your separate corners and that kind of like makes shit feel for me. I don't know about. I guess I got local for the most part. I got lucky because I'm a solo artist. I get it. this, guys, I was down with it. I would never ever, I don't give a fuck, a billionaire Mexican guy come and say, I love the Thetix squad. I give you a hundred million for this album. I'll be like, nah, papa. Nah, papa, I'm not fucking with these guys. And you gotta understand, I look at this whole game different.
11:48I'm born in poverty. I'm born in Bronx Lebanon Hospital. All the odds against me. I got shot at every day, did everything in the world, in the world. If there's anybody who ever helped me, it's Diamond D Lord Finesse digging in the crates. Besides them, nobody ever helped me or gave me a boost. I go and I get myself in a situation where I can sign people and give them half a million, million dollars, this, this, that, use all my juice. You know, the way we get big pun to do the song with Joe the Singer, he never met Joe the Singer. Kedar Massenburg. Shout out to Kedar. Shout out to Kedar. Kedar's the man.
12:25At Cali's golf thing. I met Kedar through his brother. from Stetson's son. Shout out to Daddy-O. So I'm cool with Daddy-O, but Daddy-O introduces me to Key Dog. So when we want to make this record for pun, I call Key Dog. And then Daddy-O co-signs, try that. Shout out to Daddy-O. And Joe shows up in the studio, does the song. He never even met Big Pun before that. So you over here jostling these moves and doing everything for everybody. And then you get artists who somehow you make them big and they start thinking and they bigger than you. Yeah. And they start talking to you crazy. That's the thing.
13:02And so I understand how some things can't be repaired because people step out of line to a point of where you just like, all right, fuck that. It's just going to, there's no one on your side to say, yo, chill, fuck out, bro. Chill, man. Every kid should have a logical uncle that's in this game. Any young kid, I don't care if he's worth 200 million, 20 million. He's hot. He needs an unk. They could tell them, yo, chill. Yeah. Before they touch the frying pan. Yeah. Most people you tell that, they touch the shit in it. Can't talk. So you leave the room. Yeah, you can't treat people like that. Can't talk to them, especially your guy.
13:41Not your guy. Let me ask you a question. Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I had a Bronco with the biggest sound system you see. It felt like a Jamaican party. Mm-hmm. The window opened. I drove up and down 163rd with Groovy News Mother-in-law them I might have drove 10 ,000 times This was going to the bottom of the hill Making U-turns to the top To the hill I don't even think I heard a bar All I heard was To me In Fat Joe's list That might be the greatest hip-hop beat of all time That's the greatest sentimental hip-hop record It's the greatest sentimental hip-hop record in hip-hop.
14:28I can agree with that. What I'm talking about is the beat, right? And the lyrics is out of control. When I heard that beat, it was almost ancestral. I heard them horns. I was like,
14:46let's play it. Let's hear it. Let's crank that shit right now. Oh, we're going to hurt? Yeah. When we talk about music, we play. Tell Rich to call Jeff from Rewinded and tell him we've been shooting.
15:05Let's toast some 1800s in his classic right here, man. Here you go.
15:16Toast his Joe's leg. See, that's it for me. Yo, Pete. Let me get that cup right there. You drink out of it? Yeah. All right.
15:51Beaton's with the girl of drama. In single parenthood, there I stood. By the time she was 21, had another one. This one's a girl. Let's name a Pam. Same father as the first, but I don't give a damn. Irresponsible, plain, not thinking. Papa said, chill, but the brother keep winking. Still, he won't down. You will tear out your hide. On your side while the baby make a slide. For mama got wise to the game. The youngest of five kids, hun, here it is. After 10 years without no spouse, mama's getting married in the house. Listen, positive over negative Over woman and master Mother queens rise in the chapter Deja vu, tell you what I'm gonna do When they reminisce over you, my God
16:34Timeless classics They play this, you just feel good about yourself No matter what's going on No matter where you at No matter Feel like a great summer You feel beautiful When I take back I recall a man off the family tree My right hand Papa Doc I see Took me from a boy to a man So I always had a father With my biological wooden barber Taking care of this To warm out of bicker Not a bad ticker But I'm clocking Pop's liver But you can never say that As life is through Five kids at 21 Believe he got a right to Here we go while I check the scene With a Portuguese lover At the age of 14 The same age Front page No fuss But I bet you all you know They live longer than us Never been seen now That's where you're wrong Give a minute and he's gone I can hear his head dangling in the next room I get the pillow and hope I don't pick him For this man to cuss, hear it all in verbatim Telling me how to raise my boy unless he's taking over I said, pop, maybe when you're older We laughed all night about the hookers at the party My old man standing yelling Good God Almighty Take sips of the proof When they reminisce over you For real It's so lovely You hear it?
17:50It just sounds... It's beautiful. Woo! In 92. Hey! I didn't make something like this in 1990.
18:04I reminisce so you never forget this. The days are way back. So many bear witness the fitness. Take the first letter out of each word in this joint. Listen close as I prove my point. T to the R or O Y. How did you and I meet in front of Big Blue? Fighting in the street, big Lou, rest in peace. Better believe in in me. Rain or shine, yes, in any weather. My grandma Pam holds the family together. My uncle Doc's the greatest, better yet the latest. Then he... Hey, look at Jay. One catch Jay. Like my aunt Joyce, so Pete Rock hit me. Enough respect, dude. Where they reminisce over you. Listen, listen.
18:45Just listen. is a DJ we gotta let Jerry DJ one day he's crack the next word is gone
19:01to the one and only never be another he was my brother Trouble T-Roy It's like that, y 'all
19:181992 Fuck race
19:27Man Goosebumps Yeah Rest in peace Trouble T-Roy That was my man Man That fucking album, man That was What it do for you? Because you right next door. You a Yonkers. You could go to fucking Mount Vernon and see Pete Pops. I went there a lot. My aunt John lives right around the corner from Big Luke. So it felt like a win for the town. You know what I mean? It was doing shit. Head was already a win. But then to have his cousin and his man come out with these songs in this production. It felt like Westchester and Malvern and Yonkers' new role. We was getting on the map. You know what I mean? In a major way.
20:12Only man. It gave me hope. It gave like, yo, hi, y 'all next. I got a chance to do this shit. They brought Run DMC back. The King of Rock. What was like that when they've walked? What was like that call? Rest in peace, J.M.A.S.T.J. That was the homie. He was the one. JMJ, rest in peace. And DMC. JMJ. Shout out to Run 2. But D and J were the ones. That's it. You need this, yeah. Yeah, he inspired us too. You fucking crushed the video. With the kids. Yo, that was the... How did... Everybody was in that video. Everybody was alive still. When they called you to make this song, what was going through your mind?
20:52Man. Because you brought the back in a major way. Like, and they sounded good. Yeah. After he talk about this... I don't even think we can do that. I don't think nobody can do that right now. 2025, bring like an OG back with a smoker. The way you fucking crafted the production and they fit from so many years from you just knowing about Rockbox and all that shit and being a fan and being able to make that. It came from being a fan first. And then, you know, trying to impress Russell Sennett. At a young age. I'm 18, 19 years old. Want to show Russ I can through this shit. And so after the Shut Them Down work, the remix work I was getting, kind of proved myself there.
21:37And they gave me a shot. I look at it as a shot. Like Jam Master Jay showed up at my mama house knocking on the door. So I open the doors. Jam Master Jay almost got a little dizzy. You know what I'm saying? Then he's like, yo, come on, let's go work on this. We had a meeting. And in the meeting, Russell was looking at me like, you know what I'm saying? and I had to prove myself and I started getting down because I was like, maybe they'll want to work with me. And Jay showed up at the club and was like, let's go next. Let's go work on this. And he started crafting ideas and he said, yo, this is the beat pattern I want.
22:14And I was like, you know what? I just hit record and I was like, you do it. He'd have the beat pattern. You did it. Then I added, six saw, we did something else and I just finished it all. So we kind of made it together. All the sounds came from me but it was his idea. I wish Scott Storch gave me that credit, man. I did Lean Back, Make It Rain with him. I did all my joints with him and I swear to God, I ain't pressed the buttons but I told him the sound. Yes. Candy Shop, I did it. He denies it. I had Lil' Kim dancing like, everybody like a snake, mama. Scott Storch. But you could tell him and he could play it, right?
22:52Yes. And so I went for a long drive this weekend, right? And all I heard about 30 times in a row was, whose world is this? The world is yours. It's mine, it's mine, it's mine. Whose world is this? The world is yours. Ah, shit. Whose world is this? You just came up with the hook, like... No, actually, he did. La la la, la la la. You know? He came to the Vernon. Shout out to Large Professor. You know what I'm saying? Your Large... After they left Eric Sermon's career and went to see P.O. Oh, yeah. Large professor. Who started. Help, Lord, Finesse. Who was the captain of all of this. Mm-hmm. And so he was like, yo, Pete, I got this dude.
23:36Then he played me the barbecue thing. I was like, wow. I brought him to the crib. Then he comes in, and he's just stands and brings the wall. And then I pop that one in, and I was about to say, all right, let me go to the next one. He was like, hey, hey, yo, chill, chill. That's the first time he ever said something. He's just like, start doing this. I was like do you like it and he was like kept popping and then he came up with the hook I gave him a few minutes he had that composition book or whatever I think and then he was like yo I want you to sing this part I used to play around on records and be doing that little stupid stuff on records but he wanted me to sing that part and he was like sing it like this and then he started singing I didn't know was going to come out the way it did.
24:28But I said, I'm going to do my best. Crazy! Ridiculous. Shout out to the Illmatic. I guess we got to ask the brother himself. Nas, you know, I ain't got to tell you. You know you got to touch the couch. Him, Jay, they all going to touch this couch. Yep. They can front all they want. Yeah. Buy new coliseums, whatever the fuck they want. They know. They want to touch that stratosphere of real hip-hop. they gots to come on this you gonna buy new collar sims whatever the fuck you want look my fingers my twitter fingers are getting tired of hitting jay-z and nas with congratulations if i look at my last 30 texts it's like yo congratulations dog you pulled it off god bless you means a lot coming from you joe good man this like these guys I think I'm ready to borrow something from both of them.
25:28I'm almost ready. Well, you know what? I'm with Jada, not to put you in the spot or nothing, but, you know, I said I ain't chopped liver over here. Well, you ain't never been chopped liver. Never. We know that. There's such things. How many people would love to hear, like, a Pete Rock produced Locks album? Ooh.
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25:48All I need is one Pete Rock. You got to do is pull up. Pull up. For us to be so close, Yeah, just pull up. We got three rooms.
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31:19Full wave title. MC Shan don't give a fuck about it. We hit him off. He take the teeth out and it's on. I still respect him. What was he talking about, MC Shan? He's wanting his money. He got his money. I knew you knew to take care of him. But he still went crazy, right? You know what that is. Bro, I paid three times. The last shit I put out, The Paradise for Stevie Beach, I paid for the sample to the niggas that own it. Yeah, I know the sample you used. I paid him. You know, I tried my best to not be in the MC shed. Like, he don't own it. We did the right. I went to him, he started telling me, yo, I own it.
32:02It's coming back in 2028. I said, yo, how much? Like, please let me pay you. Whoever said they owned it, I paid it. Like, yeah, I mean, I didn't want no beef. Right. I didn't catch no beef. But I didn't know that was going to come afterwards. I thought he was going to be like, yo, because he did a post where he said, yo, them brothers are stand-up brothers. Then the next week, he went in on us. So that's the part I didn't get. Like, yo, how you going to do a post? I want to tell you a problem with this podcast shit. I bigged up two, three, four people that I really love, that we all know. It's like me bigging up Pete, bro.
32:36I'm going to always use Kit Capri. He's one of them. Top five DJs, Kit Capri. The next thing I love. He didn't like where you put him at, man. Bronx Legend. You're the number one DJ in the world? What more you want to be? You called him that? Yes! Whippity and man. We got to discuss the latest effects. I'm like, yo! I talk to Kid Capri. I'm telling the people right. All the time. You're not listening. You gave DJs their flowers, and you put Callan on a red carpet, and that's when he got mad at me. I call him right now. Uh-oh. You told him Callan's too rich to even put with him. Uh-oh. And he didn't like that.
33:11Naz, we talked about Jay-Z. Cali could buy Coliseum too so my thing is you know I go around Cali and I'm broke my nigga I don't care how much money I think I got one day I pull out a watch say yo Cali the man says yo come upstairs right I'm like here we go I go upstairs he opens a safe from the seals oh lord might have been a hundred watches like this look I don't care what fat you are whatever you think I ain't got DJ Cali You know what I'm saying? The man got his own airplane. So that's what I was saying. We'll kick a pre-op on him number one. He went bad on me. Two time of felling back from maternity leave.
33:51Oh, you made history. Congratulations, bro. First day for the day off. Congratulations. Congratulations. You got it here. I'm telling you firsthand, I gave you a segment because nobody ever been able to leave work for a niece or a nephew. No, it's a TV. That's to show him how we doing shit on our set. He got to be your son, daughter, twins, triplets, octomob, one of them. When he's a niece or a nephew, you got to be thankful for your coworkers that let you leave. And congratulations to your sister. What's her name? Lila Jeanette Moses. Shout out to Lila. Baby Lila Jeanette Moses, baby. We love you.
34:38No doubt. God bless. But I talk to Kid Capri all the time. No, Kid Capri's my brother. Yeah. That's why I didn't understand. Got no more. Yes, he is. I seen him at the funeral. I seen him at Ray Dijon's funeral. He came up to me. I said, okay, you got to stop. You just stopped him right in there. The man I picked him up as the number one DJ in the world, he disses me, bro. What do you want me to do? I'm like, yo, I know. They diss me, man. I big him up and then they diss me. And all I'm trying to do is preserve the culture. Sit on this couch and big up everybody. That's what I was taught in the hip-hop.
35:11In hip-hop, I was taught that we're one community. We are one community, but it's really the fakest community. Talk about it. Y 'all got to keep that 1800 coming because I like this chick. You're talking about the community of hip-hop and the love. It's fake. People get what they need out of here from eight years from there, then this and that. You see them in a party in a section, they say, Joe, let's do it. Let's own effort. You never hear from him in that day. Phony. Well, I risked my life a million times for rappers. Like, I've seen rappers getting ruffled up in the corner by the extortionists.
35:51I've seen them getting chased out the clubs by the biggest guys in the world. I've seen that. I saved so many. I did hear one story. Fat Joe has saved so many rappers. I never tell a story because it's really, really embarrassing. I had beef one time with the whole entire West Coast and every New York rapper was there and when them dudes came and formed Voltron on me, everybody walked away, I've seen it in my own eyes everybody we ever thought was tough who had rhymes in their shit like they was killing, they was leaving me to get beat up in the middle of the street in front of everybody, I'm like yo New York what's up just like it was closing curtains and shit the sign on the door were closed closed for business the only rapper from New York that jumped in was Juju from The Beatness and at that point I wanted to be like yo Juju you shouldn't have jumped in that's my bro he don't care shout out to The Beatness Juju you a real one but you man you should have mind your business this is a pure ass whoop shout out your brother from Mount Vernon AB AB Butler One time I was in a similar situation.
37:04I had 20 cocked. These bodyguards are about to beat me up. AB ran over and was like, yo, Joe, I'm with you. It's a little guy like this. You know AB? Yeah, AB. It's my old shit, man. Let me ask you a question. We ain't KB. Yeah, we cousins. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But, yo, I admire those guys. Those guys, they got love for me for life. Yeah. You know, but I - Shout out to AB. I grew up with him, man. He remembers me from a little man. Shout out to AB. AB shows me pictures. Of us? No, no, of course. But he was behind the scenes in Beach Street and shit. Like, he was outside.
37:41He was from Mount Vernon, but not from Mount Vernon. He was outside. Where they shoot in Beach Street, AB's there, you know, taking pictures with Lee and all of them in Prospect Avenue in the Bronx. Like, he was there. He was like, Joe, I was beyond outside. I'm like, what do you mean, AB? Like, anybody, name them. I was there when they think I'm down with their crew. I was there. He's right. He's right. AB was here. I knew AB before I knew him. Every time I go to Grady's house, he was on the phone in the studio. What was this session like for Don't Curse? Ooh, everybody under one move. That a lot.
38:20He'll never get that. He'll get that a lot. That happened in Green Street. That happened in the A room. I remember Kane coming through doing this verse. I remember G-Rap coming through. I remember Tick coming through. Puba, that was part of Maddox. Scott, that's New World. You know, I would add New World. And shit happened under one. He's being very modest. That shit is like changed my life. That was a brilliant idea to make a record like that. Have you seen? Yeah. It was since I.D.? Yeah. For seeing it like curse? Yeah. So they just said, we're going to make this song called Don't Curse. That was just...
38:54That came up with every concept you ever hear him rap on. from hooks to like bridges. That's where I learned it from. How to build songs. Don't Curse is one of my famous. That shit. You did the beat. Yeah. Hell. Hell yeah. Wanna play it. No, we don't gotta wait. Don't Curse. Don't Curse too much. Play it real. Play it on that. This is my. Frankie. Peaceful Journeys.
39:29This is still knocking right now. You can play Bob as a DJ. I'm throwing this off.
39:39Lyrics are not verse to make the people awful. Tell me what's your problem. For why they can't solve them. I'm curious, G. Or BD BD fund. It feels good that way. So G-Rap, it's time to get your first. It don't curse. Foo G-Rap. G-Rap, drop it on my feet. Yeah, G-Rap. Woo!
40:14You're telling me don't curse. I reversed and did it worse. First, I poured a curse on every verse. I kind of got outrageous. Check it even, made a record how I'm doing. All my V-I-T-C-H's. Ducks, it wasn't for the bucks. Every word that you heard is cause I didn't give up. Oh, it sucks. Hey, yo, I almost forgot. The curse is a plot, but it's getting kind of hot. So I'ma let profanity retire. Hey. Where the force come to work? I thought she had a... Richard Pryor. So grand poof will kick up first. But do your man a favor. And don't curse. Don't curse. Don't curse.
40:47Don't curse. Don't curse. He wrote my first rhyme. Don't curse. Don't curse. Don't curse. Don't curse. I won't curse. I'll take a favor. Curse murder just ain't cool. Cool flip around all the way means hospital. I can't get stuck Jump on the mic Then I heard it quick Buck Buck mean and lose Then I grab some blues With my truce For those who can't follow When God's stuck Crew flipped the other way Me Is this a curse? I freaked the nation I hurt But I made sure I had my hat first See that smooth It's time to kick a verse God's sight for the vibe We can't curse That shit right here man
41:26Go ahead, ask me. Would I kick a curse in a verse? I say nope. Grab your mind and hand, wash your mouth out with soap. Think it'd be the last word with the bad lingo. Scooping all the skins in the church, playing bingo. Sounds of the mackadar fresh from the tailor. Because I made a movie when he cussed like a seller. And you never done a movie like a subway. Freaking for your new beer to make it go the other way. In a vocabulary scrimmage. When cursing in my village ain't good for my image so big daddy. You know it's time to kick a verse? But do your man a favor. Don't curse me. Big Daddy Kane!
42:12What?
42:19They wasn't saying that back then, bro! Come on, is that?
42:25You're hearing me
42:55I'm here to kick facts. Smoke the microphone and produce crazy tracks. Yo, I'm a bad bro. Let's start the flow. I'm the kick line, so it's time for me to go. I say curse, cause F.E.D. said so. Now I'll get back to the subject. Get rekt. If you think I'm bluffing, just check with the crew. Here I can see I'm slain very down to earth. And we didn't have the cunts. Yeah, man. I didn't hear from you. Boy, so you was catching them fountains. And that's why he was fucking Riding him Q-tip Oh, stop my nigga Q-tip Blim, flam, flim Make my big black stuff Must I kick a curse to be rough enough You can put the sticky red sun Don't shine But let me get mine This is in my head One is dealing with hits If I have four girls Then I'll lick eight hits Wait, don't wanna hear no drama Cause the home deal he has Is the number of my mama's So I blew out and get mad lifted Don't have to stay up to show that I'm gifted God bless me cause I've reached my 21st FD, don't drop a curse Oh, that Zach, bro That was that shit, bro Hell yeah
44:11Peace, peace, peace to the preacher I'm talking about a curse without a curse That's how I'll reach ya I can rock a party without a swear or a harsh verb Bad words, no curse words Heavy D prefers, so swing Swing to the sober clean rhythm Before I say goodbye, let me tell you how I hit them. CLP, rock, G, back, length, long, Nick, daddy, Q, tip, and me as well. Time to say peace, thank beef for the beats. This fucking beat was made for the streets. Notice how clean that we kept every verse, but if worse came to worse. We started cursing. We all said it cursing. Fuck you. Fuck you. Get that nigga.
44:42Fuck out. We started cursing. Yeah, cursing. Yeah. That was fun. That's one of the songs that made me meet. That's the funnest time I've ever had in hip-hop working with that man. That's ill, man. Rest in peace to heaven, man. Let me ask you a question, P-Rop. Yeah. They can come back from the bathroom and it's fucked up. That's how they do it. This is a dirty thing. That's how you do it. I need a Chanel. No, that's how you do it. You know, every time I'm in the studio, I get stuck. Almost. I use the bathroom and I'm in writing. I would have threw it out. I go in there. I go in there. Oh, it's freezing in this motherfucking.
45:17You don't have to come back from the Chanel. You could have came with a$5 joint. Let him ask this question. I hate to say top five, but top five produces slash DJ that rapped. For me? Yeah, for you. You write a lot. Jay Dilla, Diamond D. Came out with two smokers. Eric Sturman. Ooh. Dr. Dre. Ooh. One more. You. Yeah. Let's get make some noise in that box. That's a motherfucking... I don't like people putting themselves in the list, but you definitely in the list. Thank you. But, yo, Daz Dillinger was doing them beats, and I looked at him more as an emcee. I didn't realize that years later. Did that Tupac.
46:04He was doing the beats. Bitches of a rider, sir. Shout out to Daz. He was just my boy. He was, like, I thought they were rappers. Like, I always looked at Daz and Corrupt as spitters. Mm-hmm. I got a joint with Dre and Corrupt, right? And I did both beats because the beat changes in the second verse. So Dre comes in on the second verse killing shit. But Corrupt? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's underrated. Rob Young Gotti is my name. I tell everyone, listen, just search up Pete Rock Dr. Dre. It's going to pop the song. Didn't come out, but it's amazing. I remember Finesse went out there. He was working with Dr.
46:41Dre. I heard the joint ahead of time. And then, you know, it came out. What joint Finesse did for? the Chinese sounding joint. Oh. Ring my back? No, no, no. He's, uh... I forgot the name of it. The Chinese sounding joint. He worked a lot with Ice-T, too, at the early, at the beginning. Finesse was working with Ice-T. Only a producer that was working with Ice-T. Boy, Finesse? Yeah. I mean, I wanted to, but I never got to. But when I seen that, I was like, damn, I want to work with Ice-T. It's the original thing. It's out of the West Coast. Ice-T. It's the original. Yeah, we need Ice-T on here, Kelly.
47:21We need Ice-T got to touch this couch. For real. Facts. You know what I'm saying? Original gangsta. Yep. Beyond deserving. I never forget they threw this, you know, it was a concert, but not really because it was at the movie theater we used to watch. This shit was like, good luck, Rikens Island or whatever. You know what I'm saying? This shit was prospect movie theater. They threw one concert. For some reason, Ice-T performed. And I'll never forget, it was around the time Larry Davis had shot them cops. Ice-T was on top of the speaker talking about, go, Larry, go. Cop killer. Niggas was going to go, Larry, go.
47:56He had the whole crowd screaming. I knew this nigga was bogged down. I'm watching him. I say, yo, this dude is wild. The only Robin Hood will ever have for New York. That Larry Davis. What? That situation, he's a hero for that. And he was corrupt. They was corrupt. Yeah. They lined them up. They never let them come home. They lined them up. They survived it. You know? They wasn't going to let them get away with that. These Knicks, you trade the whole team for Giannis? Nope. Jada says he wants to trade the whole team. No. Take everybody. No, you know what? You know, Jada's like, take everybody.
48:30Take the Knicks. We just keep the whole team and get Giannis? That's exactly what I was going to say just now. Oh, no. We're not keeping the whole team. That's the only way I'm taking him. You keep the major players? You're not doing that. That's the only way. I'm not giving up everybody. The only seven-footer to shoot threes like that besides Jokic is Cat. Talk slow to these people. Oh, you so full of shit. Seven-footers and the threes like that? No, fuck you. Wait, now I'm trying to tell you. You got to stop. Y 'all got to give Cat his props. I'm with you. He sat right there where he was at, and he didn't say none of that.
49:04What? What? No. And he's from Uptown? Flag Promotional you sold And he's from uptown From promotion And again He's from uptown And they said Keep cat Come on man Nah But when you hear fans say Yo Trade this one Send this one away That's them Being haters Trying to break up the team Yeah You think they're haters They scared the devil What we got And it's the same team Run it back Daylight sold Let me tell you something Shout out Daylight the album was incredible yeah they keep coming up to me because they know I love the Knicks I'm not even talking about men and women are coming up to me yo we need the Greek the Freak yo we need to get Cat out of here I'm like yo we went the furthest we ever went last year what?
49:5425 years that's preposterous by the way we really winning we were one series away from taking it all last year with Thibodeau this man right here Mike Brown I like him I'm starting to like him, too. I like him. And he got to move it. Oh, there you go. You don't like Mike Brown? No. I like him. You like him. I love Tibbs. I still don't know why we got rid of Tibbs, but I spoke to a couple NBA players. And now they said he maxed out. He did his way of coaching. He don't do his starters correctly. Yeah. Nah. Do that. And then once Cal Bridges never missed a game in his life, and he said, this guy's playing us too much.
50:33They got him out of there. I know Jalen Brunson, people have their issues with him with dribbling and stuff like that, but too much dribbling. Ball hog. Anybody else would have been considered a ball hog. Yeah, dog. Not him. Ball hog. He's the man. He's the captain. I love him, and I think he's going to shake it. We ain't shit without Jalen Brunson. Imagine right now they were saying, trade Jalen Brunson in the Giannis trade. Nobody want that. Mm-mm. In the Giannis. Give away your star player. Why would we do that? If they right now said Giannis, Jalen, no, no, no. Let me ask this guy. No, I'm just saying, why would we do that?
51:09Why would we do that? How you say his last name? Last day's price. Why would we? It's not today's price. How you say his last name? I wouldn't do it. Jada. I wouldn't do it. I lined you up, Jada. If they said trade Jalen Brunson to Milwaukee in that deal for Giannis, do you take that? Giannis. Yannick. No way. We fucking, whole city is dismantled. That's what we've been doing for years. That's why. Yannick don't even shoot like cap, bro. Come on, man. Yannick's in the Knick uniform. It's beautiful. New York dunking on people. You be thinking of mom. But I'll take him without giving up. No, no.
51:47That's it. You can't get him without taking up. Give him four niggas that we don't know. Give him one of the third string players on the bench. No, they not going. then just leave it alone that's why I told people give them the Knick dancers, give them deuce stop, they're not leaving somebody else, they're not entertaining hey, Donovan Mitchell was in my house Sunday, Sunday celebrating with me that he's a Knick, I went to the Rucker with him on that Friday took pictures, was hanging out, he was a Knick, last minute, last very second the Knicks played the game and said, we don't want to give up RJ Barrett.
52:33That's why that whole team went south. Danny Ains said, oh, you been playing with me? The Knicks say, no, they had the plan B. No, no, no, but the plan B was right on plan A. Oh, word? Cleveland, like, they did them. At the last, last, last minute. He was in my house. Jonathan Mitchell was in my house on New York Nick. Can you remember? Jalen Brunson called the Donathan... Who you saying? What's his name? Donovan Miller. Oh, okay. I was going to say. Somebody from the project, Laquita is going to name her baby Donathan.
53:11Donathan Crack Williams. Donathan Crack Williams. You know, I was thinking about the other night. Remember, it's fire, though. Remember they used to have bum fights back in the day? What? Friday night fights. It's incredible. Friday night fights. Bling, bling, crack pipe in the collar. You remember those shits? Those shits was the best shit ever. Yo, pun you slap all the dvd. Rest in peace to the Eastside crackhead, man. I miss you. Rapping. Eastside, man. I miss him, man. Yeah, yeah. They used to go, bling, bling, crack pipe in the collar. You remember that? That's like a Me Too movement or something.
53:48That's like we was foul for that. Bling, bling, crack pipe. Whoever had them dudes fighting over crack, That shit was just fat. I seen it, nigga. They made him drink a cup of hot sauce from out of this world. That shit, O'm... Ooh. Oh, he got the shit on the... They gave him$40 to drink a cup to a hot sauce. It had to be the shit from the volcano. Dog, he was on the floor. Say, please. Give me the dog. That shit killed him, dog. I said, oh, shit. They couldn't give him nothing fast enough. That shit burned his inside.
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57:01Complete disclosures available at public.com slash disclosures. Oh, shit. You got this homeless guy, right? I owe him a coat. Do I owe him a coat? I do no homeless guy like that. Go around for a week with the coat. So if there's a such thing As a homeless guy I don't know if he uses drugs Or anything like that But He's staying His shit is Hermes In the daytime Then Noble at night He's just too Those is his location Yes sir Wow He's here every day Wow He know where the bread is at He know where to go He got trash real estate On Monopoly He's a highly respected Yeah anybody Go to Hermes And fucking Noble He's at that I think it's the matriarch Of the folks The Hermes people love him.
57:48They take care of him and all? Yes. This guy got you. I didn't give him a one-bedroom. He's like a food truck in front of the spot. You can't miss him. Get him a studio. The point is, every time I see him, throw him a little$100. My wife be looking at me like I'm crazy. That's not my job. I'm really not the guy to give somebody who get high money. I just don't. Now, if it's a lady that look like she got a family involved. You take your sides on bums. You got a Hermes bum there. You won't give a regular nigga that. I don't like that, dog. This kid got an Hermes bump, a noble Hermes bump. He told me for the first time.
58:23He told me the other day. He said, yo, Joe, you know I'm outside. This shit get cold. Yeah, bro. So I went in my house. I brought out the refrigerator. I got a coat up to the angle. That shit, that shit called a refrigerator. Like, you can sleep in that bed. Might as well be out. It's like a sleeping bag. You can stay in an Aspen for 10 hours. That shit ain't going nowhere. That shit is the refrigerator. So I drove around for like a whole week. I ain't see him. Then I go to my spot, the Condé on 178. There's always this other guy. He's always sitting out there. And I walk by. He had the thinnest coat on, and it was freezing.
59:01Again, him the refrigerator? I went and got the refrigerator and just brought it to him. And we took off the tags. I said, he told me. He was like, Fat Joe, the whole block was jumping up and down. So they know the man fucked up. You got to give the Hermes niggas Sussacrate What you going to give in You got another aphidgete I got another one I got a Gore-Tex You know I fight the power I'm an overdraft Yo I'm an overdresser Hit 40 I'm in the fur I don't give a fuck I'm an exaggerator I'm going to dress You know how they say dress your age I dress that fucking You know what? The coldness. You say that as we getting older because you're just so used to dressing like...
59:47How you dress. It can't help it, man. You're supposed to, what, put on a suit now? You're supposed to put on whatever you feel like putting on. Okay. So are we dressing our age? Yeah, and when you put on whatever the fuck you want, you dress your age. Yeah, it is. Says all the old niggas... Supposed to wear ladies by Dazi. Young niggas is like, dang shoes! Quarter Zip. These niggas are starting to put rules on all over. Like, Quarter Zip. Quarter Zips is potty. Yeah, they do. They're not making fun of them. Those shits came back. Quarter Zips came back. I got a Quarter Zip for that ass, bro. Let me tell you, look.
1:00:28I got one from Japan. Not the leopard skin joint. Uncle Elroy Quarter Zip with the leopard. I'm going to tell you something. Silk leopard. When it come to this motherfucking fashion shit, Belt to ass, man. It's getting bad out here for these guys. But you see them victors, them victors that build Timbo. I had to harass him for my pick. There you go. Jewman and Freeman. Started out a Jewman in the Bronx. Simpson Street. That's where I got my start. Simpson and Freeman. Yes, sir. Two train. Guard your bag. You know what crazy is? The other day I wore this Pele Pele. They made a Nick Pele Pele. By the way, they took it back.
1:01:08Yeah. You had the one nobody could get. He took it back. He did that shit. They asked me to... We need that jacket. Shut up, Pele Pele. I was about to steal it. I'm about to rob him. I'm keeping it real. He took it for next year, though. That's what he... I took the one for next year, but I was actually about to say, nigga, you dead. Like, I was dead. I was dead. I got one. And Rich said, nah, Joe, the man trusted you. He gave it back. I was going to keep the jacket is what I'm trying to tell you. Next day, photo shoot, whatever. Who cares the fuck? But the owner, I'm telling him, I know you used to choose a kid from Jewman.
1:01:42That's where I got my start. He said, man, I know you from Rose, Teddy, something. Bro, he said, I used to see you in Jewman every day. That's where I knew. I mean, he was there. The owner of. Yeah, that's ill. He had the three card molly, man. It's done, not but do. I was just like, you right. The three card molly. Chuck-a-lock. You remember Chuck-a-lock? Yes, sir. They got the three dice, Chuck-a-lock? I was there. Yo, one day, I'm in Fordham Road. My man from out of town, right? He with me. All I know is the dude come back. He says, yo, man, let me some money, man. The man just took my... I said, what you mean the man took...
1:02:16It's the Chuck-a-Lock, man. I said, you was playing... They got you. He said, nah, nah, give me some money, I'll get it back. I said, you want to know something? Because he was talking real reckless. Because the Chuck-a-Lock guy always looked like a regular guy. He always got three guys standing with him. Yeah, I don't know that. And I said, you see him? I said, you see him? You see him? They all with the Chuck-a-Lock. He was like, yeah, but yo, the guy got me, so I go to the Chuckaluck, dude. I know Papi. I see your Papi. You know, give him his money back because it's about to be a problem here.
1:02:47This is our store. You know, you robbing niggas. We letting you rob niggas. Just not him. He gave him his little 2-300 back. That was that. But he had no clue. He was the place to survive. There he got me for 60 hours. Chuckaluck always got a team. The guy comes in and wins on purpose. They let somebody win. Yeah. You think he won? He's part of the team. That reels you in. and then you lose your whole school clothes. Yeah, I lost 60 bucks. We lost your school clothes before, Kay. Kay, you lost your school clothes. You fucked around, huh? Three-car molly, you thought you could find the red one, huh, Kay?
1:03:21They fucked you good, huh? He switched into one champion, one pair of Air Force. Yo, Kay, one fucked you good. They beat you out your school clothes. He was going to get right. He came back with one champion, one Air Force. Yo, God bless my mother because she understood what it meant to be flying the hood. My father didn't. He from Cuba. He ain't give a fuck. That was my part. My mother gave me a pair of pumas, suede pumas, three years after it was distilled. She got it for me. She said, son, you got it. There's four of us. We in the project. Made it happen. She gave me, I go to Claremont pool and I put my sneakers in the locker without a lock.
1:04:00Done. Done. That's pumas, nigga. But I mean, shot rice on with this. Trip. They got you, shit. Some niggas got me. I had to walk 30 blocks in socks. That wasn't even it. What was worse was the ass whipping. They wanted you to go in the pool with your shit. Why did you get in the pool with them? I had no clue. I threw them in the lock. I played myself. They stole my shit. You know, I'm all about a nigga stealing. You know what I'm saying? You get me today, I'll get you tomorrow. It's still fire, bro. No, I know the comment. Nah. So you caught another bad guy. I stole cars. They stole my car. I robbed this.
1:04:43I robbed that. You ever had somebody rob your whole apartment? Mm-mm. Not my whole apartment. Oh, my God. You want to feel it? In the Bronx? Yo, I had an apartment with all the fly leather, the TV, this and that. And I stood in my mother's house for like that four-day Christmas. I come back, same dude's always in front of the building. This is before rap. so I go upstairs to the apartment when I tell you the only thing in there not even rugs was the refrigerator I came downstairs I pistol whipped every guy in that block to this day I never go near it cause I know I pistol whipped the whole block like I'm like I can't go back stop at the store none of that shit I'm like yo when I tell you I whip they asses these are the guys They in that lobby 24.
1:05:35They knew if it wasn't done, nigga, they stole the big TV. Whoever did it went right past them. Listen, you needed eight guys to move that TV. There were no elevating the thing. The big TV, the big TV. Remember when the big TV? With the fat ass? Yes. Oh, man. You need at least. Yeah. You might need six, cock diesel. You not getting away with the TV. Them niggas was actually the lookout. Well, they stole, when you get your crib robbed, the whole, the picture of Jesus was gone. I'm surprised they ain't take the refrigerator. I guess those are free in the building, right? Them niggas, they all caught it bad out there in that lobby, but they got me for everything.
1:06:23Everything. They got me for, that's the biggest violation. So, you know, I'm cool with somebody getting over on me, you know, because, you know, I've done stuff. this is a karma based business yep straighten it out that's one of the reasons why we made that song straighten out bootlegging and shit like that that's one of my favorite songs ever that's one of my joints aw yeah you remember the video where we did the video in Essex County in a real jam straighten it out video song with the YG yeah that shit is fire straighten it out and we did that video Timeless. That was fire. The video was crazy.
1:07:03Real jail. Then we went to the women's side of the jail. And I have a few stories about that. I don't know if I want to tell you. The women's side of the jail? What happened with the women's side of the jail? I was signing autographs and this one woman I saw took the pen and went like this. Ooh. And gave it to me to Stein. I didn't touch it, though. Oh, yeah. let's talk about Sheik Rook is a gangster and Jada Kiss is a gangster and he's a gangster play whatever he wants to play that rocks gangster gang yeah that's it gangster gangster gangster and the super gentleman right super gentleman and gangster gentleman and the super gangster yes he had gangster and the gentleman and he had a gentleman and the super gangster I got confused it wasn't gentleman it was just I was trying to figure out which one am I on.
1:07:57It's Gangsta and the Gentleman, and then the other album was Super Gangsta. That's the one I'm on. Yeah, put that on. Gangsta and the Gentleman. And the song is Gangsta Gangsta. Yeah.
1:08:25Gangsta South P is a gangster D-block Why don't you come fuck with a gangster? Gangsta You don't get nothing but gun shells I ain't on the far loose Pass me the dumbbells I'm in war mode They in mob mode Body after body So the story was foretold Twist them up real tight Just like a corn roll Stuck in the head grease Bullets in your eye Your earpiece Bullets whistle like canaries For canaries The stones is yellow But so is the owner Ain't the blood But I make them a donor Crash the whip at the dealer trying to get me a loner. Gotta split that a dip in Corona. Fuck around, make you sips on ammonia.
1:08:59Comma, put your ass in a coma. Don't nobody give a fuck if you're paralyzed. Kiss past the source, so I can shade on the barrel size. Said he was the king, till he looked in the foul eyes. Flow is the bold, but the burst is the hour ride. What, nigga? Sheet Looch is a gangster. Gangsta. Jada Kiss is a gangster. Gangsta. Stouse P is a gangster. D-block, why don't you come fuck with a gangster? Gangsta. Sheet Looch is a gangster. Gangsta Jadakiss is a gangster Gangsta South P is a gangster D-block Why don't you come fuck with a gangster Gangsta You ain't got to remind me I'm a top of the line chief If you a fan You can say I've been poppin' since 9-3 For my man Then you know I've been poppin' my whole life Outside to his finish My nigga the whole night Few contract and ink pens later Turned into boss Respect Maltize and kingpin paper Mountain of D Cardi frames and pen gators Gotta learn how to deal with the weakling haters Don't even think about the top ten Just think Jada Never equal or less than I think greater Gambino affiliate Still transport bricks A boy on a bike While my man Willie Silly shit Imagine how rich we could really get Fuck a pool table The crib got a billion Treats is our problem Hope our lives got on Three piece purple label With the hard bottoms Gangsta Sheet Looch is a gangster Gangsta Jada Kiss is a gangster Gangsta Styles P is a gangster D-block Why don't you come fuck with a gangster?
1:10:23Gangster. Sheep Looch is a gangster. Gangster. Silverback. Shady Kiss is a gangster. Gangster. No doubt. South B is a gangster. That's you, son. Z-block. Why don't you come fuck with a gangster? Hey, yo. Straight off the gate, I pack heavy. Big Chevy, 24s. Bandana like I'm one of the outlaws. 4-4, sit on my lap. Hover thing in the truck. It's too big and it come with a strap. I got bitches, money, cars, and a lot. Already got weed, bring cigars to the spot. Coke in the pot. Yak on the counter Three money counters Get from around us I probably won't do Yay of 50 sales Like they probably won't last In none of these jails I'm tattooed up Levi's double sole chuckers No shirt to back motherfuckers The Mac motherfuckers Go clack motherfuckers They keep your little Stink mouth intact Motherfuckers Silverback nigga The Barack or a rap L-O-X D-block Howard Hold that She luches a gangsta Gangsta Jada Kiss is a gangsta Gangsta Stiles B is a gangster D-block Why don't you come fuck with a gangster Gangster Sheet Looch is a gangster Gangster Jadakiss is a gangster Gangster Stiles B is a gangster D-block Why don't you come fuck with a gangster Gangster
1:11:41Woo! Man, man. That was so... You know I used that same LV producer. His back is incredible. LB used that same sandwich for a joint for me. And so did, so did, damn. Doom, doom, doom, doom. What's my man? What's my man that was in the group with Joe Budden in there? Joe Ortiz used that. Joe Ortiz. Joe Ortiz, a cool dude. Yeah. Joe Ortiz, I'll say that here, and I don't mean no disrespect. Right? Please don't say nothing bad about my man. I'm not going to say anything. What I'm trying to tell you. Watch it, Joe. You might want to listen to me. I think the guy's so phenomenal, I invited him to Miami to make a hit.
1:12:30H-I-T. I sat down with Joel Ortiz for no dollar, no nothing. I gave him a hit, a lean back, a number one. He never put it out. He didn't want to hit. He's the version of it. Yeah, he bodied it. Some guys don't want the hit. They want to be underground so much. I never understood why he didn't put out the hit. B-Rock, what are some of the beats you wish you did? Oh, wow. At least two Dr. Dre beats. At least two primo beats. Yeah, but we still remember them or you just know? It'll come to me. Some big L shit. I wish I did the big picture beat. I love that. Title. Who else I said? you said two and Dre I wish I made the chronic Jesus Christ yeah cause I was hooked to that no I was hooked along too chronic yeah that was some shit I can't front out you I got a little jealous was it chronic?
1:13:38yeah yeah that shit took the world the way he was using was like he sounded like AI in that day shit sounded like motion pictures. Little Ghetto Boy, all that shit was just out of control. Name me a couple of songs you wish you did, so when you hear it in the club, all hits. That's a good question. Lean back. In the club. Fuck out of you. Flojo. Flojo. Straighten it out. They reminisce over you. Fucking, whose world is this? I wish I made mad show nothing. I wish I made in the club for sure. Every time I hear it, I'll be like, you know I made Candy Shop with Scott Storch. You know, I told him how to make the shit.
1:14:24He made it. And 50 Cent turned that into some other shit. He called me 20 times. Are you sure I could give it to 50? His before any beef or anything. I was like, hey, give it to him. Man, every time I hear that motherfucker, I'd be like, God dang. But like, how did I let that? I heard How to Rob before everybody. Like, 50 don't remember this, but we was in Trackmaster and saw me and he was like yo yo yo Pete check this out and he just pulled into the corner and he started spitting the lyrics to How to Rock and I was like you gonna upset a lot of people with this one then when I heard that beat I was like no that shit was crazy you know he's the original troll yeah but Checkmate happened so 914 914 baby 914 914 Checkmate yeah 914 baby so I don't play yeah like I don't listen to Ether I don't listen to Eta.
1:15:16I don't listen to Super Ugly. I don't listen to you or my... Now that beefs are over, I can't entertain it now. Like, you know, that shit is over. I did a beef record. What beef record you did? Common. Nice, cute. I heard that. He told us here. Wow. Yeah, he did tell us that. The bitching you? Yes, sir. That's crazy. I remember you did that. What was the hottest beef record in the game? Me is the bridge is over. Lyrically. The bridge is over. It's the first time I knew Jamaican. That's true. What do you think?
1:15:52That was a good one, huh? What do you want me to do? That was a good one. I like that. I like that one. I'm in the South Bronx. Wasn't too much Jamaicans. I like that one. There's people across the country who ain't grow up with Puerto Ricans. How many rappers got put in their place behind a diss record? A diss record? Oh, no. Behind a diss record. how many rappers said I ain't going at that internet. Leaving it alone. Yo, let me tell you something. KRS-One was my hero. Mm-hmm. I get that. And he was a shit's creep. I get that. Okay, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking going up against the whole Juice crew and all that, but it was not.
1:16:31Even me, the number one KRS fan. He did. Every show. Listen, he did. Eventually, we know the outcome. He's the first gangster rapper, actually. All right, he's cute. Ice-T? Nah, I think just Ice. No, Criminal Minded. Ice-T is before. Criminal Minded? Before, yeah. Ice-T, you want to come out with Ice Criminal Mind? No. Did he? Hell yeah. Ice-T is older than Taylor. Wait a minute. Oh, yeah, but I'm saying... I felt like... Ice-T. Listen, Ice-T had the first record deal. The rooftop is still open. The rooftop is still open. You're saying that? Yeah. When Ice-T had the first video. Heavy-D had the first everything.
1:17:15I was with him. I was with him. Ice-T had a song in the video. Ice-T was in Breaking. That was before? That was before everything. Ice-T definitely got his AARP call. Okay, okay. Like, do you ask the AARP, or they just send it over and say, yo, you owe. He's a searching gang for the rap. I think I'm at the point where I could get a discount on the bus. Criminal Minded before? See, I told you. When Breaking come out. I told you. The movie Breaking. You had me questioning my history. We'll go Breaking. Did you hear what he said, though, bro? I heard that. Okay. It came out a few minutes. So I was right.
1:17:54Ice-peating. See, I was right. It went out of the street. 83. 84. Breaking. Criminal Minded first. In March of 87. Okay. Rock Maze in July. Breaking when came out. 84. Oh, okay, you're right. He got him. Damn, well, I see. I see him first. You got him. I've been paying. I'm like a student of a notion. He up there saying, Gangsta rap and breaking. They doing shit with the broomstick. He was up there with hammer pants on. I remember that. Gangsta shit. Yep, yep. Ice D. Doing the backslide. Yeah, he was back. Moonwalker. They saying, kill shit. Turbo, that's Turbo. What the fuck? Good name, it fancy.
1:18:34Yeah, that's J. Ice D. I said, Ice D scale. Beach Street. Man, he was ice. Danger. First thing is in the deal.
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1:21:30I used to live uptown. This is real hip hop. My boss tell you the wild, wild west. Turn all that shit up. I want to hear this. My boss. I played that since death, that album. Kumo D, how you like me now? How you like me now? Teddy Riley? Come on, bro. Teddy Riley did that? Yeah, yeah, big. Teddy Riley did more things. Kumo D. Thanks, you didn't know, man. This is called a show. TR did a lot of shit. TR did. Raps New Generations. Raps New Generations. Raps New Generations. Get on. For Cool Key for them, huh? Set G. When I'm in there, maybe 10 of the stars listening in there. No. That's Classical 2.
1:22:11Classical 2 is the name of them. Raps New Generations? They were on Rooftop Records. Rooftop had a label. No, no, no. I remember. Rooftop had a label. The first time I heard that was I was in Vietnam in the Bronx at a house party and they played Raps New Generations. Raps New Generations. Get on. You know, he got a video with me about 14 with the bubble goose, with the big in the middle of the fucking jam. Yeah, that's New York. I was grilling the whole fucking party. You know what I'm saying? They got a video somewhere out there like that. You got to find that shit for me. They got a video of me.
1:22:43Back up. And remember the time. Michael Jackson. No, we got a video of you on my postage. You break-dancing somewhere. Yeah, I was doing that shit. I wasn't like, you're spinning on your head and shit. I was windmilling and backspinning. I can still do it to this day. Anybody want to bet? I got windmills. I got 10 windmills in me. Yo, P-Rock. What's up, brother? Where's hip-hop going? Artists don't even want to rap no more now. These young boys want to stream. Only the pioneers can save us. Only people like us can save this that understand the realness of what we're doing. You know, the music we make.
1:23:22you know, the, the, now we understand how important the youth is in today's society with everything that's happened. You know what I'm saying? And we want to connect with them. Cause I, I mean, I had a hard time listening to that music. I was harsh. And my apology is, you know, the day last so out, we made a record called yours. We talked to the view. So that's kind of like my apology. It's called yours. Yeah. I heard it. I didn't, I didn't pick that up. It's on it. Comments on it. All right. Yeah. And so that record was an apology record to the youth. So I feel like with us being older, that know how to stay in the shit, it's going to be up to us to really have them connect with what we do.
1:24:06And hopefully, you know, they listen. And when we're gone, you know what they tell me, his son, because I hustle him all the time. His son comes with me. I just have debates with him. He's crazy. He goes with my son, with his daughter, with his mates. is it now? Everybody, all these kids, I don't want to debate. I want to know what the youth is thinking. Yeah, that's my man. You know what I'm saying? So I go, yo, what they say about this or what they think about that? And then they'll tell me and I'm like, are you serious? I can get into it with it. The answer is far fetched. It's because they don't understand.
1:24:41I'm in the pool with Nori's sons. I said, who's your favorite rapper? They tell me a name of a guy I never heard. I said, well, they was like, Unk, you're not going to like it. I said, what you mean? The beat is trash, the rapper's trash, and he's my favorite. Like, yo, like, who does that? Who's the best producer in the past five years? Who do you think that is? Past five years. That's like a microwave question. Come from where longevity is loaded. I'm going to say Alchemist shines. Alchemist. I'm going to say he shines through Alchemist. I'm not. AOC Alchemist Alchemist Yeah we bumped into each other in Japan Oh shit I'm walking in the record store I'm in the record store digging I walk in and I see this guy I'm like yo that's And then we hung out I remember one time I was walking by The train station And somebody was selling some old records And uh I bought them maybe$3, a bunch of old rappers.
1:25:49I brought him back to Diamond. And he looped up this joint I had. I had one of my first demos was, he's a big shot. Fred Joe is a big shot. He took it from the record we bought and made a fucking beat out of it. And that was like one of my first demos. You know with Diamond, I've seen so much greatness with Diamond. You know, he still got it. Like I go see him DJ and he got the same Diddy Bop. I'd be like the diamond Diddy Bop. And it's crazy, right? Because I told you that Reminisce is probably the greatest beat in the... I like horns. Horns hit. Right now, what even just horns is just like like my lifestyle.
1:26:37I like horns for some reason. Even that joint y 'all just played, the Gangsta Gangsta That's some horn. That's shit, though. What's your favorite instrument to sample? Keyboards, sounds, and I like horns. I did the horn thing in the 90s. Yeah, you got that. You horned. You was a heavy horn. Yeah. And everybody started following. I got it. I got it mostly from 45 King. But Molly started doing it first, no doubt. But 45 King, like, stressed it. And then I just said, I just capitalized. You know, let me tell you something. I'm starting to work again, right? And I'm asking people for that raw sound.
1:27:21The other day I heard, it's a hard knock, life. Even though that was a commercial hit, if you listen to it now, it had that raw 45 Kings sound. A master. I can't find producers these days to get that. What's the problem? Even when they do the raw sound, they'll do something glossy. They'll do something to it. It won't have that black hole. This is why AI is bad for music, okay? They don't have souls. They don't have the ideas that come from here to here and land here. Just a little knowledge about, you know, the music. It has to come from within for it to be dope. AI could never read. You know what's crazy is I had this guy every Sunday.
1:28:09I don't want to know why they line me up, but I go to the Italian deli and I go get my olives, my stuff, you know. And they had a guy there that was almost like the Rain Man. You know, he was... Cannolis. Huh? Cannolis. Cannolis, olives, mozzarella, you know, mozzarella. Mozzarella. Mozzarella. He called it fucking... What did he call it? Mozzarella. Yo, come on. Yo. Hey, watch them canaries. Yo, dawg. Them canaries. Hey, it's Moots on out. It's J.R.C. It's Italian. It's Moots on out. Call them Moxer Mel. You can't go back. They're going to poison you. Can I say something? Moxer Mel. So I get to talking to this guy, right?
1:29:00So I'm in there talking to him, and then he's talking about jazz, music, and this. He says, hip hop, you know how to play instruments? You know how to? I said, no. He was like, so where does hip hop come from? So as I'm explaining to him, for the first time in my life, it opened my mind. So I was like, yo, hip hop comes from sampling all other art forms of music, whether it's Jamaican, whether it's jazz, whether it's, it don't matter. We sample everybody else's music and I'm explaining it to them. And while I'm explaining it to them, I'm hearing it myself for the first time where I'm like, oh, shit, we come from all kind of music.
1:29:45From DMC, I'm the king of rock. I said, you know, they sample. Haley Roy. Remember that? Haley Roy. Yeah, remember that shit. And I'm going to tell you, we did the 50th anniversary in Yankee Stadium. And if you ask me, I silently, you know, none of my victories. Nobody broadcasts Fat Joe's victories. They just won't. Whoever you name stepped up on the stage, I really believe top three, top two, I ripped it down more than anybody. I don't care. Oh, Common got busy too, though. Common was there. He did good. He didn't do that. Not better than you, though. I ain't gonna rip that shit down. Clean the backyard.
1:30:21Yeah, nobody ripped it down like me. But I'm gonna keep it real with you. I go up with my family to the suite and them boys came on and that shit said doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. and I was just like a kid again and Run DMC, I was like, yo, the gods is here. Like, Run DMC. That was big for me. When I was a kid, they were like superhero gods. I was in memory. Come on, bro. Fat boys, Run DMC, rapping Duke, and something else. My moms brought me there. That was one of my best time of my life. This nigga up there produced, I know his name, but you remember Larry Smith. Larry took me inside. It's Captain Light.
1:31:07Sauvage Roll forfeit. He never came back. Yeah. Fucking genius, man. Davey DMX. Dave cut the record down, too. That was Davey Dave. You're all the best. That's who we was talking about. Cut this beat. Dave cut the record down, too. Davey D. Davey D. Yeah, Larry Smith. You called him. What'd you call him, Davey? That's what we said. No. You called him something else, correct? Davey D. You're all the best. Cut this record. for the DMA. I used to like Malcolm McLaren. Yep. Worlds, Worlds, Famous. Supreme Team. Supreme Team show, so, so. Yep. That shit was crazy. It was crazy. It was. Right? That's true.
1:31:44Hip-hop shit, right? That shit was crazy. And you went to the, they had the jams in, was it around the same time as the Bronx? The jams in Mount Vernon, they had to have jams too, right? Yes. Graham School Park, Memorial Field, and then there was a 70s concert with the Jackson 5 came in the mouth that's what he said he went no no I called Run DMC Fat Boys in the rapping Duke Run DMC no no no I mean Royal Field did a rap concert in the 80s where Run DMC performed somebody told me they went to that fucking Michael Jackson my younger brother Jackson 5 is dancing with Run DMC you know what I'm saying shout out to Grab Love yeah sir what was because we about to go, but what was the first song that you would hear all the time walking into the jams when you was a kid?
1:32:37Get up and dance.
1:32:41You don't want to read you, not even when the Grandmaster Flash. Yeah, that's the party joint. That's it. Whoever had turntables, put the speaker in the window, cut the hell out of that. You hearing it for hours. An Apache. Yeah. An Apache. Well, I'm going to tell you that too. Patsy's won it. I'm going to tell you that too. Big beat. Good times. Good times. Oh, my God. Good times. That was it. Good times. Good times. That won. You right. Nah, you right. That won. Okay, it's... That won. That shit. Nobody play. That shit won right there. That's it. You won one. You are absolutely correct. That won.
1:33:22My fault. You won another one? They cut the fuck out of good times. One more. One more. To be real. Oh. to be real to be real yeah yeah those two let's dance dance to the drum no that dance to the drum is beat beat was let's dance let's dance and then and then they will always go here women playing women producing men go working some go stealing everybody got to make a living and I remember sitting on the project radiating you know that she was hot as hell in the way. One thing the project don't lack is the fucking heat, my man. I remember sitting on the radio listening to a cassette. Woman playing, man producing, man go.
1:34:13All of them from the islands, too. That might be the first lyrics I ever analyzed as a kid. Like, where I said, what are these? Woman playing, woman producing, man go work is some good skill. everybody got the maker I'm a kid homeless oh shit yes sir that's the ultimate joint right there what? yo listen this episode of Joe and Jada was brought to you by 1800 tequila the finest agave tequila 1800 I don't want and I don't want to be on another show without my partner drinking 1 ,800 tequila. This brings out the best. This ain't that. That ain't this. Crack and kiss. Make some noise for Pete Rock.
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Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by hip hop producer legend of legends Pete Rock. The iconic beat maker tells Joe and Jada about his falling out with former group mate CL Smooth, their legendary "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" song, the story behind producing "The World Is Yours" for Nas on his incomparable 1994 debut 'Illmatic,' the Dr. Dre and DJ Premier beats he wishes he had made, his top five producers that rap, the call he got that led to him producing "Down With The King" for Run-DMC, and how he heard 50 Cent's "How To Rob" before the rest of the world did. They also debate whether Ice-T or KRS-One can claim to be the first gangsta rapper, if Nas' "Ether" diss for Jay-Z is the hottest beef record of all time, and what the pioneers need to do to help protect the culture.
5:00 - Heavy D's influence
8:00 - Split with CL Smooth
13:30 - "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)"
20:00 - Run-DMC
23:00 - Producing "The World Is Yours" for Nas
32:30 - Why MC Shan was dissing him
39:30 - Jada fans out over "Don't Curse"
47:00 - Top 5 producers that rap
49:30 - Knicks & Giannis talk
1:00:00 - Fat Joe & his neighborhood Hermes bum
1:10:00 - Styles P's "Gangster, Gangster" feat. Jada & Sheek Louch
1:15:30 - Beats Pete Rock wishes he made
1:18:30 - Hottest beef records & first gangsta rapper
1:28:00 - Hip hop pioneers need to step up
1:31:30 - Favorite instruments to sample
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