Remy Ma talks Remy Network, Fat Joe’s stories, Jada’s Gemini energy & the clout-chasing epidemic

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30:18The clout shit is all the way bad, but let me tell you something. The clout always been the club. You know, these cops, they locked me up one time. They came to my house six in the morning. It was all a setup, by the way. I beat the case. Right? So they come... No, no, I'm just being honest with you. I know they set you up. I know. No, the guy got beat up by a bunch of Spanish dudes. Had nothing to do with you. I'm in the VIP with my wife. Somebody come see me the day before and says, yo, the guy... Remember the guy who got beat up? At BB King? You's a sucker too. Whoever you is, you's a sucker, bro.

30:54Like a prime time sucker. So they say, yo, he want 50 ,000 in the brown paper bag. He says, you beat him up. I had nothing to do with it. I'm with my wife and her friends in the VIP. They come six in the morning, my door, boom, boom, boom, Jersey. Mr. Cartagena come with us. Robbed the guy at BB King. You beat him up. This, when I tell you I had nothing to do with it, Jada. So I go to the precinct. So the cops come. This is how I'm This is why I'm explaining it to you. The cops come regular, bummy, hoodie, detectives. So I'm in the thing. You know, obviously he pointed me out. He had a girl point me out.

31:33She was like, and to think I was a fan. Like, nah, this shit was all a setup, right? The moral to the story is about six hours later, they go to take me to central booking. The same cops walk in with fresh haircuts, suits, brand new badges. That's when I knew I said, oh, shit, the police want the clout. They walking like you. You got a famous picture like you walking out the precinct. Them niggas couldn't wait. They still jerking off to the picture. 2026. Like, yo, this is when you got the cops trying to get the clout walking you out. The DAs. But you have to. Yo, this is crazy. You have to understand the climate.

32:14The level of clout out here. The president of the United States is tweeting that he's happy people are dead. Like, literally, like... He's tweeting that what? Yo, one of the guys, he was, like, the head of the FBI or something, he died, and he tweeted, like, yo, yeah, I'm glad he's dead. Now he can stop harassing innocent people. Like, he was investigating him at some point. That's sick. Like, I was sitting there, like, yo, his Gemini knows no bounds. Like, he just... Who, Trump is a Gemini, too? Like, y 'all guys? Yeah. I never knew that. Yeah. Every time I try to figure out Jada gets that thing...

32:45do make a little bit of sense now. I go into the Remy package. You know that shit. Every time I try to figure out Jadakus, because he's some work. Don't think I'm just some work. He's some fucking work. I go into the Remy catalog. I said, why he's acting like that? Why Remy would act like this right now? Okay, let me figure this out. I'm changed, thankfully. I've changed. I'm going into my mogul era. I'm tired of paying people. I'm tired of getting sued. I'm tired of going to Central Bookings. Like, you know, they do it a little nicer now. I don't go through the bookings like I used to, but they come and get you.

33:26Like I say, they walk you through the side. Either way, you're still in the bookings. Don't be confused. You're still under arrest. And I just, I just don't, I feel like they taught us wrong. You know, we all grew up. Talk to me. We all grew up thinking like, oh, you got to be the toughest. You got to be the hardest. You got to, And when it comes to the matters that actually matter in life, the people that you need to be cool and to get certain goals, they don't want the toughest person. They don't want... They meek. They're little sheep. They don't want to let a wolf in here. And if you come in there, not a lot of time, even when I come to now, to the day, people like, that's Ramsey, we see it, but we know Remy Ma is somewhere in there.

34:06Nah, she ain't in there no more. She in there. She's a mom. She in there? She in there for sure. For sure. but you just said you don't like that shit no more just cause I don't like it just cause I don't like it and just cause I don't wanna be that doesn't mean you always gotta stay on point you just drop me off anything can happen today and tomorrow you drop me off in the hood I'm gonna be good I'm okay I'm not that far gone wherever I'm at Yale, prison, Bayrou, Africa I'm gonna figure it out for sure 100 % I do not know where I was at I think I was in Miami Bell Harbor something I took the elevator door open it looked like a guy that it could go down with.

34:44Like, you know, it looked like he could be a problem. In Bell Harbor, the nicest place in the world, the door opened, I'm by myself. I see the guy, something rubbed me wrong. I said, oh shit. And then I realized, he walks in, I walk out. I said, yo, this shit can get popping anywhere. Anywhere. Like, you know, I'm at Bell Harbor, you know, about to eat some steak and sushi and shit and chill. And the door opened. And I said, okay, this guy, me, you know, because you can tell when people don't like you. You know what I'm saying? You got that, nah, real talk. You can tell when people got a vibe like, it's a vibe about them that you just like, all right, you know.

35:25How about I don't like you either? I was about to say, I be okay when people are like me. I can't, I can't. Go ahead, I'm waiting. I'm sitting here, this little nice, hee-hee, ha-ha. what? Why am I here? What we doing? What's going on? What we talking about? Tell me something. She got the nice nails old polish. You got something to ask this woman that she... I'm here for the people. Y 'all over here promoting violence. I'm never promoting violence. You talk about Remy Depp with this stuff. I never promote violence. All I can say is with you, because you got everything going on. You're capitalizing and conquering land and having your network and doing you're doing shit.

36:11I call it doing shit. You get money and you're living life beautifully and you know what I mean? Handling business. How do you gauge when to make music and release music? Is it when you get pissed off? Is it just when you hear something you like? Is it when you're hearing a bunch of shit you hate? So when it comes to music, and it's sad because music is, that's my baby. That's how I got here. I tell people all the time, Like hip hop is the most amazing stepping stone ever. You stand on that drone, you be an actor, you be a owner of a network. You have a hair company, you have coffee. All is just because you know how to rap good.

36:55Because let's, let's be clear. The ones that don't really know how to rap that good, they don't really, never really pan out for them. I had a conversation with somebody when they was like, I don't know. I was like, rappers are dumb. I was like, not the good ones. All the good ones I know, not only they're extra smart, they're, funny. They could be borderline comedians. And they're really smart. The whack ones, yeah, they're dumb. They're not too intelligent. But I feel like when I realized, I just used to want to be the nicest. I used to, I grew up listening to you, listening to X, listening to...

37:29That answer right there that cut you off is the answer that is the perfect answer. And if you asked these so-called MCs, they would never give that in. Yeah. I just wanted to be the best. I just wanted to be the nicest ever. Like once people was like, yo, I was cool. Anything after that, I was cool with it. If I make some bread off of it, cool. If I'm able to put out another project, cool. But when you start doing other things, and be clear, I know my pen goal. I am the nicest. None of these chicks and most of these dudes can't touch me when it comes to this rap thing. But it's a gamble. And when you know you nice, and you gambling with your talent, it's frustrating.

38:11When you start doing other things and seeing how much more money you can make, guarantee money. Like, I know for a fact my check is going to be there. I know for a fact it's going to clear. I'm not worrying about sales. I'm not worrying about getting on the road. It's going to be there. When you start realizing that you can take your other talents and make just as much, if not more money, unfortunately, your love and the music, it takes a backseat. I think it might have fucked up the game, though. Why do you say that? because me and him, you know, other than we doing this, I don't know what he's doing, right?

38:42But this is my job. You're a fucking liar because I just spoke to Dre yesterday. He told me you got a fucking boy. Why you lying? You're lying. Listen. What? You was about to say, you know, this is, he was about to say and tell me, this is my, this is my job. This is what we do. This is my job. I just sent him a beat the other day. I just sent him some shit the other day that's crazy. so he's about to rap and Dre just told me 24 hours ago yo crack ain't let you I said no I said oh he hiding so outside of the one that's just when I got a day off this is like this is secondary for me now he has a day off I think that's what this is secondary for you it's my job I call it 1B I like going 1B but rapping 1A all for that today.

39:36Nailed me to the 1A. But like she said, after people like us find other... You got all type of shit. But that's what I'm trying to say. Everybody. Bed, juice, rum, sneaker stores. I just seen a T.S. West stupid I've been there. Yeah, I need my T.S. West. That shit hard. I ain't moving out. That shit hard. When you... I told slow y 'all up in my seat. What you said could happen, though, if... Once people start realizing the real bags is elsewhere. And you don't want them to... If you think about it... Well, it's not necessarily that it's elsewhere because you have some people who have been able to capitalize and did both.

40:18But there's this other particular group of people that they don't get it. I don't care how nice you are, how spiritual, lyrical, miracle, put them all together. When you get to the point and it's not creating income. It's not creating revenue. You're in your 40s, maybe 50s, and it has not hit. Like now, what do you do? Sometimes when it comes to those people, they don't know how to take it. Like you see how you like, oh, this is one A, one B, because you have the option to have that. Joe has the option to sit here on this couch. He can go do rewind. He can go sit up in YC. He can go worry about some other property shit he got going on.

40:56And then if he decides to have one of the biggest producers in the game that happens to be our brother, send him something, he go in the studio, then he can. He can do it as he choose. Some people, they don't have that liberty. They're really in that studio every day, every night, trying to make a hit, hoping that it changed their life. And some people's life is just never going to change. Unfortunately. Now, I'm not even trying to be funny. Everybody can't be a superstar in music. Every single, everywhere you go. Not me, I'm not going to sit down. How hard is it for you to see stuff online and all that and just stay quiet and just...

41:30Because you've been a real... Like, you've been a real adult. Well, it depends. It depends because... She's growing. She used to be snapping. It's the sky. Yeah, it's that German. I'm at the house. I'm sure. I'm calling Joe on the way. Like, Joe, you gonna be mad before they call you and tell you. I'm telling you where I'm going. Bye. Hang up. Like, now it's more like, for me, when I know the truth, when you know the real, somebody's sitting there talking lies about you, saying that you're a certain type of person and you know that's not you, I'm not arguing with you about who I am because I know who I am and not for anything, you know who I am.

42:10You can lie to all the people that's all you want. Now, when it gets to the point... I don't think it's fair. I don't like when it's when it's displayed on the cyber world. What you mean? Like relationship? Like anything? Well, it's never going to be people need anything. They don't care. So here's the thing. But it's uncontrollable to a point. You can't control it. And also, you can't want people, want the praise and the love when shit good, and then when shit bad. Shit bad, you got to take it. You got to take it. Motherfucker go to the hospital for a flu and throw the camera on. Yeah, but here's my issue.

42:46Praise up. Like, yo, my man, get the... If you don't get the fuck up out of here, my man. I don't know how to argue on the internet. Like, I don't... I'm not arguing with nobody on the internet. I'm not going back and forth. because I am going, as soon as you say, though, or post the one thing, I'm at your doorstep. Also, nine times out of ten, I probably won't do something to you anyway, and I don't want a track record. So I'm talking to you guys, talk to yourself, say what y 'all want, create whatever and everything you want. Man, they shit on me all day. Everybody in the world. In real life.

43:15I get shit on for a living. And I'm not sitting here acting like I'm the toughest because I went to prison. When I tell you nobody disrespects me. Like, in real life, I have a great life. When I tell you nobody... And it's not because... Because I never get disrespected, Jada. It's not because of who my brother is. No, on the internet. No, no. It's not because of who my brother is. It's not because of who I'm with. I've always got respect because of me. People respect me because of me. And not just because I'm saying you should respect, but I give respect. I'm not just a disrespectful person. I don't just...

43:53I realize... It took me years to realize what people think you are is what they go by. So there's times where I... Yeah, perception. What people think you are, that's where they go. There's been times I walk into situations and I felt the energy when I walk in the room. Like, oh, Cassie, what's up? That's how I'm going. Everybody loves me. Because this is no, why would you not love me? I'm actually fire. You got that terrorist squad DNA, baby. But I just feel like when people are lying... I ain't fucked by the time I leave. They're like, damn, that was a great job. Your natural reaction is to be like, that's not what happened.

44:30This is what happened. But I realize if you just do this,

44:39wait a little while. People start saying for themselves. You don't even have to say nothing. I don't want to talk. I don't have to talk. I don't have to say nothing. And those who can't understand, then maybe it's not for you. You can't fool all the people all the time. You can fool some of the people some of the time. And I got one of my fans. Not all the people all the time. I got one of my fans. Yeah, you can fool some of the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all of the time. You cannot fool all the people all the time. It just doesn't work like that. I got one of my best friends came to me.

45:16He's like, yo, one of our other best friends is talking about him or former best friends. talking about him. He's like, yo, all I did. No, no, I'm talking about family shit. I'm just speaking in general. One of my mans, one of my best friends came to my house the other day. First of all, if he comes to my house, he's one of the beyond close ones, by the way. So he's sitting down, yo, you believe such and such is talking about me and this and this and that. And, you know, after everything I did for him and how I looked out and this and this and that, and I hear him struggling with it. and I'm like yo bro listen it's gonna get even uglier like you know I've looked out for people and they dead ass don't went on camera and were like he never gave me nothing and I'm like Joe call me ugly we be on the phone mind you we only talk on FaceTime Joe calls me on a regular call I'm worried something's happening why are you calling me regular we only talk on FaceTime bonnet chest hairs out that's how we talk right so he's on the phone right he said He'd be like, sis, I'm the only one.

46:21You like call your body, right? I'm like, yeah, that's right. Sure. But anyway, so you have, he would call me and he'd be upset. And like, yo, I gave them this and I bought a new house and I got a new car. And he was behind in a child support. And I used to, in my favorite line, I tell, I say it. It's like one of my models. People don't want what you give them. They want what you got. It's so funny because I hear people say it now. They probably don't even know that it came from me. people don't want what you give them. They want what you got. So you can give them a new house. But you go, you go, you go get a new car.

46:59The same person that you just bought a house, they sit in there like, well, I ain't getting a new car. You pop out with a new, new jersey on, just change your setup. All right, cool. This nigga walk around with a new jersey. I got the same old. It's mine. So you have to come to a point. I had to really tell him one day we sat down. He was, I said, Joe, you don't owe nobody nothing. You don't owe nobody nothing. Your kids are grown. Everybody who's coming to you are grown with kids that are grown. I don't ask my brother for anything. I don't come to borrow no money from him. I don't come to help you.

47:33I got this crazy. People always got the craziest ideas that involve your money and their idea. I don't come there for that. You don't owe nobody nothing. Don't let nobody make you feel like you owe them. Don't let nobody make you feel like you don't deserve what you have. We don't know how long we're going to be here. We have one life. What's the craziest shit, a friend or family member idea they had they wanted you to invest in? What's the craziest idea you ever heard? Oh, thank you Lord. I go. I had somebody who wanted me to invest in a gambling spot. I said, you mean gambling with the word of it being gamble?

48:13Yeah, I'd rather not. Nah, you could be like the house. Oh, you want me to be the bank for your gambling spot? Yeah, okay. Yeah. What was one of the all type of shit? Food, trucks, gambling spots. Insane. Yo, Kay, you don't go in the middle and be like, yo, I don't think you should ask him for that right now, God. No, you know, here's my thing. I think when... So here's... I feel like us, you know, where we come from, that's the thing with us because I don't see somebody who goes to work 9 to 5 I have this argument like yo you went to such and such concert you ain't take me I'd be like so if I had a regular 9 to 5 right and we had an office Christmas party you wouldn't come you wouldn't come I'm not gonna be at work in my office you're sitting in a coffee break room you're not gonna so let's treat this is my job at the end of the day so no you're not coming it's not a big party we're not doing that but you have people that be upset I had a former friend tell me, you know, you ain't never take me, you know, I was never at no video shoots.

49:20I never, you know, went to any of the parties and this and this. Like, that's crazy to me. You really wronged them. But listen to me. I said, you're right. She had never been at any video shoots, never been in the studio with me, nothing. I said, but you were invited to my baby shower? You were invited to my wedding? My house warming? like the regular barbecue that I have at my house. Real love. The things that matter. And they don't realize that. But they don't care because that doesn't matter because they're somewhere telling somebody else, I know Jada Kiss. I know Fat Joe. Well, why you wasn't at his party then?

49:58Why you wasn't on Joe and Jada then? If you know him or if you know him, why you working two jobs? That's your friend? He working two jobs? I have to explain this to somebody. Like one of my friends that I, like most of my friends that I have that's not in the industry are my friends that I did time with. Like, those became my real friends because they were my friends when we was all in the same boat. You know what I'm saying? So one of my friends, she had came to me, she had got into an argument with somebody that we was in. She's like, yo, you be going mad hard for her. She don't even fuck with you like that.

50:26You got two jobs. She should put you in position. And she was like, I said, you want me again? She's like, I didn't really know how to explain it to them. But I was just like, she's on something like, fuck you, I don't care. That's my friend, that's it. I said, explain it to them like this. I met you When we were incarcerated I was 26 years old You know how many friends I had before I got to you You know how many Family members Cousins Nieces This this Before I get to you If I'm saying Nobody has to work Because you know me You don't gotta work You don't gotta do that You get to drive the best cars In the best neighborhood Before I get to A girl that I met When I was incarcerated I got So many other people To get to Before I get to them Like it's just Never gonna happen like that It just doesn't make sense.

51:09And you got people that's out here that really think like that. They feel like if you are a celebrity and if you make money or you rich, anything that happens to you, you deserve it. If somebody attacks you, oh, well, you shouldn't want to be famous. Oh, every, like, it's horrible. You get penalized for being famous. It's horrible. You're not allowed to have real feelings. You're not, oh, you respond to somebody, oh, she must ain't got no work. She got time to respond. Nah, I seen yours because you the only one out of the 2 ,000 comments that's popping shit. So yeah, yours stood out. Now I'm a bum on you and now you blocked.

51:41Took all of 10 seconds out of my life. I didn't lose a contract. I didn't lose nothing to wow you out. See how I just turned into the regular Emmy right there? No, because... Just came right out. I threw it too. I answer the bum niggas and then everybody get mad at me. Yo, yo, this, this, that. But that's what... That's what the disrespectful bums of the world are banking on. They're hoping that they can disrespect you. No, no, no. They don't want a response. they're hoping that they can disrespect you continue to disrespect you and that either you or someone around you is going to say don't respond to them they beneath you but in their world they good in their world in their world they a big fish like I really had somebody tell me somebody who is nobody to me nobody they more you more lit than me because you're a clown you're a clown like me I'm the type of person I'd rather don't talk about me I've called blogs before like yo take that post down they be like but we were saying something good I don't give a fuck I don't want you talking good about me don't talk about it don't talk about me period because you think because you posted something good about me yeah it's cool so now when you come next week and post some fuck shit you're gonna be like well you didn't say nothing when you posted nigga I know type of time I mean take me off your page before you run into me in the bathroom somewhere I don't get it

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55:13I was like, no, at this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply emotionally affected me. And I left it on the mic. That's great. Because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too. Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. The following ad is sponsored by Pets Best Insurance Services. You knew right away, he's perfect. The one for you.

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57:36So become the newest neighbor on the block. Visit Redfin.com to start finding and start owning. That's Redfin.com. Rem, how many years you been with me, Rem? Uh, 29. Have you ever seen a single human being play me pussy in your life? It was this one time, right? Yeah. Yeah, Rem. It was this best. I'm going to tell you, the closest ever, right? The closest ever. I've never, ever played pussy. That one time when we was in Miami. And we were surrounded by 300 niggas for real. All right, you don't know. Is it 300 or 30, Rem? Okay, it was about 150. He was about 100. For real, it was a lot. And the most notorious niggas to ever live in the United States of America.

58:31Joe's about six, six, four or something. This guy's about five inches taller than Joe. He's about the color of his pillow. The only thing you see is the white of his eyes. And he's grilling Joe like this, right? And Joe's standing there, Joe like this. In my head, all I'm saying is don't look away because whoever look away first is pussy. Do not look away. You better not look away. This is what I'm saying in my head. Joe, like this. Nigga looking at him. This shit probably went on for about three seconds. In my brain, it felt like an hour we were standing there. I don't know where God sent these two police angels from.

59:04I didn't know where these two cops just walking. All right, guys, break this up. Split it up. I was just happy because it was not going to end well for us. We were definitely outnumbered. But I felt good in my heart that it wasn't going to end well. My brother, who he thought he was assuming that didn't look away. I was like, that's right. We do not look away. I don't care. We got staring down to the end. Like, they ain't blinking nothing. So, no. You've seen that story I tell all the time. The guy was like seven feet cocked. Yeah, I was there. No, I was in jail one time. Oh, that guy. Drew was waiting for me.

59:38His arms was like a wrestler. Like, Jim, this guy was so... I looked at him. He tried in front of me. I said, my man, are you... Do you know? Who you trying to say? You're going to need a hundred more of you. Like the nerve of you. Are you... Me? Are you... I was actually shocked. I was like, yo, I'm shocked. You trying to talk to me. But no, I thought you was talking about that night. That was that night? With the BMF dudes? Yeah, in Miami. It was crazy. So his... But some people watch this and be like, that's dumb. That's how you get injured. That's it. Me, Noah, and my brother. And we have the...

1:00:17We're cut from the same cloth. the pain that I would be in knowing that I let somebody punk me. Me knowing. Fuck, I don't care if nobody's there. It's me and the one person. Me. Me knowing that I let you get away with that. I can't sleep. So we might as well just, we might as well just shake this shit up. Start moving the furniture now. They were chasing your favorite rappers down the strip all over. You heard Kiss? What do you keep talking about? They were chasing all your favorite rappers. They wasn't chasing stuff. No, they wasn't. Who the fuck was they chasing? Man, it was bad out there. It was a sad day for hip-hop.

1:00:55Let me tell you something. I had a couple of sad days for hip-hop where I looked around, and I was the only guy. Yo, I'll tell you a quick story. Never a quick story. I don't talk about these kind of things because I'm affiliated with some really dangerous people, and a lot of shit happened, and it helped all type of people. I see no type of shit happen to executives, artists, so-called gangsters, drug dealers, gang pins, ladies. You ever seen something happen to me? No. You ever seen something happen to Joe? No. Did you ever see anything happen to me? But what we saying is... All right, then, let's talk about the gangsters.

1:01:36So we good. And there goes what I'm talking about. Nobody ever did anything to me in this music industry besides words. So it's no example. All in. Regular. But that's the reason. I haven't had a physical. A nigga ain't. It been so long, I didn't even got done. That's how I feel. Nah. But I'm telling you. And I'm outside. Everywhere. I'm outside. Y 'all see me. Everywhere. What we talking about. And I don't got it. It's me. Let's talk about the Yankees. Let's talk about the Knicks. Let's talk about life. But I don't even. I think we've all been blessed enough to make it to where we are now. I never thought.

1:02:21But the reason I brought that up is why I'm telling you is I be looking sometimes very I don't know more. I had a name for them too and so we don't say it. Sky Rizzy, you got to use the bathroom. Sky Rizzy. No, no, they got a new one. Trim Fire. Trim Fire. Yo, kids, Trim Fire moment. but um I look at the blogs and dudes be talking man reckless in the blogs like yo if I saw a homie I just I don't know where that once I see once I see anybody making any type of physical threat on social media I automatically think you're not gonna do nothing either it's either two things it's either you're batshit crazy and you wanna go to jail and you're just leaving a record of it So when you do it and they come back, they can be like, we only got to go trial right here.

1:03:17You said you was going to do it. You did it. Or somebody did that. Or you don't plan on doing nothing because why, why would you do that? Why are you sitting here? Like what, what possessed you? Like somebody got you so mad that you went on this. Like, and when I catch you and when I see you, I'm, I sent something like that to your personal phone, but I would never put nothing like that when it ended. It just doesn't make sense to me. And most of the time, it never happened. You see the follow-up video a couple of months ago. where they was in the same place and someone came and said, this is not worth it.

1:03:47And they squashed it. Like, that's nuts. All the time. Like, all the time. I know people who literally was doing something knowing that they never had no intention. This person was the last person they ever wanted to run into on the quiet street. It was talking crazy. But they felt comfortable doing it because they knew nine times out of 10, if and when they ever ran into this person, it was probably going to be somewhere in a type of setting like this where somebody's going to have enough or a little bit of sense to be like, chill, don't do that, yo. Y 'all can talk, come over here, whatever.

1:04:20Fortunately, you know, well, unfortunately, unfortunately, some people don't really be on it like that. Some people's like, yo, okay, you said that, stand on it. Don't think we could come later and piece it up because now, unless you plan on apologizing or piecing it up, the same way you were disrespecting me. 50 Cent going to have to fight like 18 people or something, right? First of all, nine times I said, the people he be arguing with is never even going to, they don't even, they're not even in the tax bracket to be in the rooms that he be in. That's one. And if they happen to be in the same place, he's in there moving how he's supposed to move.

1:04:56Like a super rich mogul that he is. Yeah, everybody talking all crazy, but they be running around. Do you see what's on my arm? Do you see? Why would I be standing in this hole in the wall waiting for you to come over here because you can't possibly think you're just going to come over here and do something to me. Yeah, they do all that and they be having security. I encourage anybody. Anybody, whatever your profession is. I don't think that's an issue no more. Right. Back in the day, you used to say, no security and all. People still be trying to pull that guard. Yeah. You got security. You got, if you are worth, no, if you're worth anything.

1:05:32Security than a$7 million bill. Or not even that because I just feel like if you have anything that you feel is worth anything, you are supposed to protect it and in most situations we are the brand why would I let your bum dusty dirty peeling back cuticle ass near me you're never gonna touch me see that thing right there y 'all just talking about what Styles had a big problem with why you stabbing niggas shooting niggas doing all that it was costing them allegedly money in jail until he started eating plants and you calm down. I don't even think, you know what it is? He got on planted. And I love styles.

1:06:16Like, I went to his suspension. He's so sweet to me. He's still violent, but less violent. The problem with some of us, and I'm not going to say, but someone like a styles, we grew up different. We grew up where you can't just say you're going to do something to somebody and then see them and don't do it. You can't threaten people. You can't even really come in my space and disrupt what I got going on here because who you talking to? And then, but we live in an era where people don't care. I know for a fact that there are people who know if you go up to Fat Joe or you say X, Y, Z, it's probably not going to end well.

1:06:54He's going to react. There's certain people that I know I might walk up to and I say this and they ain't going to do nothing. So they come hoping like, I know he's going to do that. I hope he do just enough so that I can get some money out of it. But I don't think he's going to kill me. You know how many lawsuits Mike Tyson paid for? Mike Tyson might have been... Because why are you playing with Mike Tyson? Yo, like, why are you playing... He's a test Mike Tyson just to get... Listen to me. Punch me here. Listen to me. Yo! I tell people all the time, stop playing with... There's a fucking rhinoceros punch you in your face.

1:07:26Stop playing with real niggas. People be out here playing with real niggas. People be out here playing with people that really, they never... They not playing with you. They not used to the disrespect. They not used to the internet. that he he ha ha shit and it's gonna be an issue like I believe I believe be sitting in my christian's I'm like y 'all should turn this shit up and then I'll be like you know what all I'm gonna do is make another nobody lit all I'm gonna do is get somebody who probably wouldn't have been able to go on that trip now they on the trip I done literally pay things and watch them on trip with my bread like watching them if right now I have an argument with a dude coming outside this building and they film me, all of a sudden, Pedro becomes famous.

1:08:10Somehow he's arguing with Joe. He's somebody nice. I was telling the story. I did the two to four. Sing, sing. Bang down with the guards. Yo, my man, you nobody, right? But we got to be careful because somebody can get us upset. So, you know, I see you run down the stairs. Nobody knew who the fuck they was. They was living in they fucking corner, Krusty House, Ian Romano's. Now they lit. because you said something to them. I don't understand that. It's so crazy. It's happened to me before. With music, no, it's happened to you. With music, right? Let's get back to the regular schedule program. With music, where you at with your music?

1:08:48Are you ever coming out with music? Are you like... Me? You? Listen to it. I mean... All right, so here's the thing. She's working right now. Here's the thing. You should know what I mean. I might be the... I used to clown Dre from Cool Than Dre for this because Dre had the most amazing, award-winning album for like 20 years that's never come out. He keeps taking, like, we were like, yo, put it out. It's fire. It's crazy. He'll take another song out, put a new one in. Take another one out, put it in. I have been doing that. But see, mine's a little bit different. That's good. Prior to COVID, everything was lined up to go.

1:09:27I decided to have my daughter. I had my daughter that pushed things back. I thought we was only gonna push it back a couple of months. It pushed back about two years. Pushed it back about two years, and then COVID happened. So that added, like, another two years. We come out of COVID, and I just been doing state of the culture in the crib online, cracking them. Like, all right, hold on, wait. The music shit cool, but let's figure out how to get into this bag of air. I didn't have money out there. I didn't even have to leave the crib. So it's like, we would do shit. Me and Joe, we will do shit, or I have an urge.

1:10:00Like I came here today and I was in the studio last night. I hear a beat or something that inspires me or I just think of something. Like I feel like as artists, sometimes something's like, oh, that's fire. I gotta, you know, I gotta put that down. And I feel like it's time. I feel like it's time. This year is the 20 year anniversary of my first and only solo album. 20 years this year. And I still step on that stage, shake it with conceited. We all in this, dude. Shake it like. Like, does that feel so good? You know, she gets a big no-no when she gets upset when I start dancing at her shows. Like, behind her, like, we all in it.

1:10:40Apparently, you don't think I could dance, right? It's not that. It be that. It be a lot of hips going on. He do this with his lips. Like, it was only this particular song. When this one, he does this little hip thing. He got the lips. I be like, I love that shit. I'm in his arms. You see the snap? You see the snap? I feel like it's time. A couple of times that I wanted to put music out, I feel like we were in a different climate. I feel like it's time to make bitches rap again. Like, y 'all gotta start rapping again. And who else better than me than to be like, yeah, yeah. You know, I always feel like you're the best female rapper.

1:11:19Jada Kiz doesn't feel like that. I'm not in his top five female rappers. Jada Kiz, how you gonna say that? I saw the episode. I'm not in his top five female rappers. You know, I don't like... You don't like this? no because too many of you that's strange I never found it hard to put you in my top 5 so I mean yeah it's too many you in my top 5 nah I'm gonna get top 5 cause I'm sitting here right now nah watch the next show y 'all don't know this we're gonna keep doing it you know my first single ever Jadakiss was on like it never came out like it came out but it didn't come out it was when I was on Loud Records right after I signed my deal remember with Loud Loud went under I had a record it's called Monstum and Jadakiss Jada was on.

1:12:00It's my first ever. And Rem always been tight. And you supporting the ladies, man. You just did Angela Renee Simmons. You forgot her name. Just doing anything. Yo, this guy's crazy. Yo, yo, no, no. I'm just saying. You're just saying anything. I know how you did 20-something years with this guy. It's crazy. Really? He crazy. Listen to me. Really? She did call me, ladies and gentlemen. is give me the tutorial. Kiss. This is how you're going to... This is what you need to do for the track. Ding, ding, ding, ding. You gave him the surgeon general? You gave him the warning? Listen, I said... When they was doubting and they didn't think it was going to work...

1:12:46I said, my Jim and our brother was having... I said, listen, you got to get in. He's not going to let you in. If you let him, he's going to talk all day. He's going to tell a story. It's never a short story. is entertaining so you'll get sucked in. It's very entertaining. Pause. Well, I don't know. I don't think. They said girls don't have to pause. No. You don't have to. But girls don't got to pause? For what? They the ones. They're the opposite side of pause. It's a great thing. You want to get sucked in. When they said. That don't work for girls. How does it pause for a lady? She said something about.

1:13:21Man, I never noticed the pause. It's only a guy's shit. He want to pause somebody. Don't go just killing me up. You be saying, wow, Paul, you about to look at my throat. Yo, you say the most flayed things. I be saying, as soon as I be saying, like, oh, my God. Look at her throat, you hear, lady. Yo, sis, let me explain something to you. Before rap music, I used to tell dudes, no pics, no pics. No pics. I was the guy that wasn't jumping in people's pics because that's how the feds was catching people. Right. I tell our stories to us, but if anybody came up in that studio that we wasn't cool, we didn't know this is that, I would not talk in front of them.

1:14:01Right? This poor shit, I ain't never played this in my life and I done got 20 ,000 flagstone because of the poor, now I gotta be like a poor catalog now. I gotta watch everything I, huh, excuse me? I wanna say something, right? Timberland logo! Listen, Joey, Joey, Joey, I want to say that I'm happy. I'm happy to see you here. You get to, I call you, you're doing your graffiti shit, you're drawing, you're chilling. You get to come here, throw all your fly shit on, tell your stories. His favorite thing is telling stories. Like, I want y 'all to know, it's great here because we're in the setting where the camera's on.

1:14:45He tells these stories at home. You're not allowed to look at your phone, nothing. He'd be like, Ram, Ram. I'm like, I'm just sitting in a sex. he'll wait till your text is done you gotta put the phone cause he has to have your full undivided attention for you to be able to be in a space and just do something that you naturally do and get to your back I love that for you I love you more but you know who I love my God baby that one there she was singing that Usher and Wale song that fire I tell you something I got four pictures of her in my room Mabby this one here she comes in she comes in the rules.

1:15:22Papa, let me tell you something. I said, so you got four pictures. I think you're five. No, but what he's not telling you is they sit on the phone on FaceTime and gas each other all day. Mama, you're so beautiful. You're so pretty. You're so smart. I'm a pretty good godfather, right? And then she goes right back. Papa, you so fly. Let me see your sneakers. Those are the flies. Really, Mama? I'm like, yes, Papa. They don't even use their real voices. I'm in a side vomit like this. Disgusting. Like, I can't even talk. Like, when I threaten people, like, I'm going to tell your father, I'm going to tell your grandma.

1:16:03Like, I'm like, let me tell your godfather what you just did. You know, she come in my house, she run the whole shit. She's an angel. They come in, no bathing suit, no nothing. They got to go out and buy the bathing suit, come back because she want to go in the pool, her and Lonnie, and they just run shit. Real bad. I keep saying that I want to be so rich by the time she gets 18. When she about as he is. He's ruining my life, guys. She could just walk in and be like, yo, Papa, I'm taking the boat. This guy tells my daughter, I listen to mommy, but I promise you, you're not going to have to work.

1:16:40You're not going to have to work. I be like, yo, bro, why are you telling her that? She has chores. Go clean them toys. Papa said, I don't have to work. Papa not here. Clean that shit up over here. My family know. That's part of my shit. Like, yo, I want to get to the point of where she live like she's a fucking person. My brother is one of the few real men in the world who thinks a woman shouldn't work. She shouldn't have to pay bills. Like, he strongly feels like that. Like, I keep trying to tell him, like, yo, hook me up. The fuck? Like, find the people that think like you. I'm tired of paying.

1:17:15I've been paying forever. I don't pay the war. I shouldn't have done. This ain't that. And that ain't this. It's cracking kiss, goddammit. Take some noise for everybody.

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