In short
Rick Ross discusses the origins of the Rick Ross vs. Drake beef, his upcoming album Set In Stone (June 12 release), his Verzuz battle with French Montana, and his new book. He also talks about hustling/work ethic, real estate investing, and stories from sports and celebrity life.
Guests
Rick Ross (rapper, Maybach Music/entrepreneur/author; described as having a large real estate portfolio and long-running music career). Fat Joe appears as the co-host/guest (rapper/serial entrepreneur; references his own book releases and sports stories). Neil Beckham is mentioned as a book-related guest/participant. DJ Khaled is referenced.
Key claims
- Ross says the Drake fallout traces to Drake mentioning “Rosé” (Ross’s name) and that Ross “address[ed] it” once it was brought up.
- Ross says he and Drake had a genuine Cash Money-era vibe through DJ Khaled and shared collaborators (e.g., John Legend).
- Set In Stone is Ross’s third book/third release in the conversation, and the album is “set in stone” for June 12.
- Ross describes his book process as being around Ross rather than formal Q&A.
Notable examples
- Ross recounts a hospital-to-studio moment involving fentanyl and storytelling/sampling.
- Verzuz: Ross and French Montana are framed as having multiple hit songs together.
- Real estate: Ross contrasts Dubai penthouse pricing with smaller venues, and mentions buying his own Miami home for $37M (later offers of $100M).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VORick Ross's Miami Journey
2:47 to 4:50
Rick Ross shares his experiences in Miami and the hustle that led to his success.
“When you think of today's guest, you think boss.”
Reflections on Hustling
4:50 to 6:07
Rick Ross and Joe discuss the hustle mentality and the risks involved in their careers.
“I've been living in Miami for 20-something years.”
Storytelling in Music
6:07 to 8:12
Rick Ross talks about his storytelling ability in music and the importance of ambition.
“like I've seen you risk your life hustling for the bad like I literally like is it true or not you caught like a seizure on the plane or some shit like that?”
Adjusting to High Stakes
8:12 to 10:30
Rick Ross discusses the differences in payment and gigs across locations and his hustle principles.
“Niggas over there with the Tourette's, right?”
Plane Emergencies and Hustling
10:30 to 11:56
Joe and Rick recount a plane emergency and its impact on their hustling lifestyle.
“He take, what is the, could you tell us?”
Family and Hustle
11:56 to 13:20
Rick Ross highlights the importance of family in his hustle and business endeavors.
“We flew in we landed, it had been raining.”
Celebrity Encounters and Sports Tales
14:49 to 19:16
Joe and guests share humorous and candid stories from sports events and celebrity interactions.
“CeCe Sabathia, New York Knicks legend, Hall of Famer, and Sean Peck.”
Reflections on the Verzuz Battle
19:17 to 23:09
The hosts discuss the dynamics and experience of the recent Verzuz battle with French Montana.
“The energy looked like it was nice energy in the building.”
Creating a Book in Real Time
23:10 to 24:59
Neil discusses the unique process of collaborating with Rick Ross on his latest book.
“And with Ross, like I said, Ross and I have never one time sat down across from each other, put a recorder on the table, and I ask him a series of questions and he gives me answers.”
Understanding the Drake and Rick Ross Beef
31:57 to 33:50
Rick Ross explains the origins and dynamics of his relationship with Drake.
“Yo Ross, let me ask you something Right?”
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Rick Ross on Bel-Air Partnership
33:50 to 36:10
Rick Ross discusses his ongoing partnership with Bel-Air and his business philosophy.
“and that's what real ones do you address it and it's really too easy.”
Lifestyle and Real Estate Insights
36:10 to 40:06
A candid conversation about lifestyle choices and the real estate market.
“Shout out to my big homie, Brett Barish, man.”
Future Plans and Perspectives
40:06 to 42:00
Rick Ross shares his outlook on success and the music industry.
“in Miami, it's the hottest motherfucking place in the world.”
Rick Ross Discusses Mindset and Lifestyle
42:00 to 44:14
Explore Rick Ross's mindset and lifestyle choices that set him apart.
“And this a motherfucker who own a 300 foot, you know, so you know, the mindset different, but I just believe and really invest in that shit.”
Versuz Battles and Competitive Spirit
44:14 to 47:00
Rick Ross shares insights on upcoming Verzuz battles and the competitive nature of hip-hop.
“You know how much people wish they could move there that's so mad?”
Favorite Verses and Collaborations
47:00 to 49:44
Rick Ross reflects on his favorite verses and memorable collaborations in music.
“But hip-hop was always based on that competitive spirit.”
The Importance of Beat Selection
49:44 to 52:04
Learn why selecting the right beats is crucial for a rapper's success.
“sometimes those B-sides mean more than the big records.”
Rick Ross on Whack Rappers and Industry Rivalries
58:08 to 1:01:01
Rick Ross shares his thoughts on rivalries in hip-hop and how to handle conflict.
“Just imagine if I had the chance to slap 50 cent with this shit right here.”
Community Engagement and Unique Business Ventures
1:01:01 to 1:04:44
Rick Ross discusses his community events and creative business strategies.
“But say, like I hear some guys that work for Cali, they complain, yo, I work too hard at this and this and that.”
Inspiration in Hip-Hop and Personal Stories
1:04:44 to 1:09:51
Explore the significance of inspiration in hip-hop culture through personal anecdotes.
“That shit got me down with the pink shit on.”
Throwback Rappers and NBA Talk
1:10:00 to 1:13:36
The hosts discuss old-school rappers and their influence, while engaging in a lively conversation about NBA teams and players.
“It was some friends of mine that back in the day, they had the game in the chokehold, and then they got a big album deal.”
Therapeutic Journey and Personal Struggles
1:13:36 to 1:18:23
The conversation shifts to personal experiences with loss, depression, and the importance of therapy in overcoming struggles.
“And I'm like, and it's a shadow of a nigga this big sitting down.”
Upcoming Album and Book Release
1:18:23 to 1:19:51
Rick Ross discusses his upcoming album 'Set in Stone' and his new book, sharing insights on his creative process and goals.
“She wasn't telling me like, all right, you got to do this or here's these pills or here's this.”
Transcript
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2:01Rick Ross:Homie mentioned Ricky Rosé and Rosé do what he do best. I go bad. I've been doing that a long time. I've always enjoyed giving a nigga a spanking if you don't understand what's happening.
2:29Yeah, yeah, what up, y 'all? Joe Crack the Dawn. You know who it is, your boy Jada. It's the Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. Pow, pow, pow, pow. We just doing what we do. You know what I mean? It's a special edition today. Today's guest, he's a friend of ours. You know what I mean? Don't let that go over your head. When you think of today's guest, you think boss. You think empire. You think Maybach music. You think mogul. You think mentor. You think visionary. You think of boss. You think of career. You think author. you think hell of a father because they always try to discredit the black man.
3:32Did I say author? Serial entrepreneur. You think somebody who shifted the culture. Serial entrepreneur. I'm still going. Serial entrepreneur. Because my man has a speech impediment sometimes. Fucking hustler. Big hell of a real estate portfolio. You know what I mean? learn about what I'm telling you real estate portfolio you think downright one of the most hustling hustlers of this era one of the biggest brands one of the biggest car show pool parties that people die for ladies and gentlemen Rosé in the building give it up
4:23Rick Ross:much love family much love mashallah mashallah we thank my brothers for having me here man we family definitely believe that so sometimes it's hard interviewing family because there's so much to talk about you know we got a line with DJ Khaled DJ Khaled put me on in Miami. I was living in Miami. I've been living in Miami for 20-something years. And I used to see you in the clubs all the time. All the time. And then... The White Seven? Yeah. I used to see him in the club. I used to see him in the White Sevens early. I used to see him in the White Sevens early. It was before he had 88 cars.
5:12I used to see him all every... pretty much every night. We would go out in the clubs. I see Ross and then one day, you know, that hustling came out and that shit was like... Rest in peace to Chakul. You better believe it. Pretty much DJ Khaled, he did the Fat Joe on the Rick Ross, like, because he would play Fat Joe 1 ,000 times and then he'd start playing that... 2 ,000. 2 ,000 times. Yo, hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling, hustling, that's all you heard that's all you fucking heard and the rest is just so many layers to you and I want to salute you for inspiring me meaning yeah I came out before you but when it comes to the hustle game like I've seen you risk your life hustling for the bad like I literally like is it true or not you caught like a seizure on the plane or some shit like that?
6:20Rick Ross:Big time. Rose have a seizure and wake up and just ask where the smoke at. Yeah. I need the weed. That's all I need. That's my name. And make sure there ain't no ambulance tall motherfucker standing over me. That's the only problem there is. Clear the room out. You know what I'm saying? They got the UFOs out now. I'm thinking with the Yamba part UFO, that nigga Wimby Yamba boy they got the UFOs out there you see that shit James the UFOs is real but anyway that's a whole another shit here we go alien or UFO or both cause you know you can call Wimby a UFO no no no they gonna put that everywhere he's DNA alien I think I'm DNA alien too now that the truth came out I might have like 2 % if I do insistory.com might be 2 % earlier.
7:15I'm keeping it because I'm too incredible at what I do. Like, this shit, we never lose. Like, I got to be part earlier.
7:22Rick Ross:You might be because I saw your name on that list for the rich nigga pill to live 60 more years, too. I'm trying. Hang with them. I'm trying to live. They got my name on the list like that? Like, he's trying to live 60 more. You're going to get the pill to live 60 more years. Yes, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Ross, I swear to God, I'm on the list. Yo, I want to live. You got to be on that list, though. You know what I'm saying? No, I want to be on that list. No, you want it. You want it. Ah! You want it. I'm on the list. You know the trick with the list, right? What? You got to get your family on there.
8:03Who else? Who you going to be with? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got to get... Or give them a little piece of the pill. You know what I'm saying? You got to get a couple of them. Ross comes home. he has something he was in a hospital very serious and for some reason his first destination the whole world is yo how's Ross he comes to the studio and it's me Dre and him and he starts playing music and Ross goes so you know they call me the greatest storyteller I don't know if you've been seeing what's going on out here I love it killing these niggas I love it legendary don't stop don't stop niggas is over there They're like the mother podcasters.
8:44They're like wadcasters or something. The niggas ain't. Came with a new word, wadcasters. They're Beyonce. The niggas just wadcasters. Niggas over there with the Tourette's, right? Because we throw these niggas over here. So Ross come up and he got fentanyl. We looking at Ross. Like, the nigga just came out of the hospital two hours ago. Fentanyl. it's the pure substance comes from the hill sitting alone the very touch can get I'm like yo this thing is still telling the fifth adult soon as he finished I start going samples samples samples so I start telling the story how we used to throw the samples out to the fiend of the dope and I said damn and Dre said yo y 'all gonna try to out story each other in this story Yeah.
9:36It's crazy.
9:38Rick Ross:Niggas got a man paint that picture, man. Niggas got to paint that picture to build that bridge to the destination at all times. Even if a nigga laying up in the hospital and can't speak, got the tube down his throat, the mind and the brain won't stop. The ambition won't stop. That won't stop until a nigga heart freeze. and I respect that a lot about you man that you are you're hustlers hustlers they don't got guys like you no more they don't make them you know guys that work like that they got that work ethic like that every time I think I'm working too much I'm like yo Rick Ross would've took that bag he'd've went out there nah real shit round bag legends that nigga over there that nigga in Dubai he in the Prince house the next day he in Chattanooga at a barn.
10:30Yeah. He take, what is the, could you tell us? I know it's like, probably like a secret. But what is, like, you know, like me, if I get money on a certain level, I don't never take from down, I be like, yo, this is my number, this. I see you, you can't get what you're getting in Dubai and the Prince, you know, the grand opening of Carbone, what you're getting in Memphis at a bar. No, no, no. It can't be, so how do you,
10:55Rick Ross:no, the numbers that, you know, let's say if we go to Dubai, the numbers they give us to go over there is astounding. Then they'll give you another 50 ,000 to eat some camel meat. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then when you come home, if I'm just chilling on a Tuesday, you can put me a little brown bag together. Rose will slide through because you got to remember, I'm not just thinking about Rose. I'm thinking about the 30 partnerships I got. So when I'm walking through somewhere, that's 30 businesses walking through with me. My other 30 partners see us. We stand in a penthouse that's $75 ,000 a night in Dubai.
11:35Rick Ross:Then we'll go to a barn in Augusta. Talk to these niggas, Jose! The fucking plane broke down. You jumped on another one and went to the fucking your plane caught a flat or some shit. You jump on another plane to the shots of this motherfucker, man. He ain't turning down a bag. We flew in we landed, it had been raining. So when the plane landed, hit the runway, made a right, the wheel went into the mud. And you got to stop right then because if that wheel go into the, and if it go, if you take off and it fold up, you can fuck yourself up. So you got to treat it like it's a major emergency. It was mud.
12:19Rick Ross:So I jumped on another jet. We couldn't miss the Mungan. That boy. that boy man you know you get some people they get certain amount of money they just stop or they want to stop or they go in hiatus or they go in that like like when you a hustler too you know i'm not saying you jump in the private flat jumping on another one this this you know rick ross rick ross is a different type of uh animal but kiss you hustle like a motherfucker too your kids in your family don't want for nothing. You get them everything they want. You out there busting your ass too crazy. You know what I'm saying? But this guy, Rick Ross, what happened?
13:04That's a boss? I ain't say anything. My brother, I appreciate the flouch.
13:10Rick Ross:I never used that word, Paul. Let me know just when I can say it. If anybody says that, let me know. This is the guy right here. He'll show you, Paul. You'll let me know. Okay, if anything says it, You throw the flag. Right there. Where the flag is? The left side, you got some flags. Okay, okay. Somebody say some shit. Your vernacular, you know. No, I'm just saying, even if it wasn't, you know, I wasn't expecting it to come from me, but if any, you know what I mean? Just let me know if it's okay. I got you. When it's time, when I hit you one of these. I got you. You already know when it's a real moment.
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15:47This is Rose. Leave the driver alone. We go Knicks against the Phillies. Somebody got the game at us. Knicks against the Phillies. Knicks against the Phillies. Knicks against the Phillies. I don't watch football. Stephen A. His shit was great. I don't watch football. CeCe Sabathia, New York Knicks legend, Hall of Famer, and Sean Peck. CeCe Sabathia is a pitcher for the Yankees. Yeah, Yankees. Legend. Legend. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. Yo, CeCe Sabathia. I'm telling you a different story. CeCe Sabathia goes to watch the football, the Giants against these niggas. They chased him and Beck out to the sprinter.
16:24They were going to fuck him up. CeCe Sabathia. Yo, give him a break. If I see Dominique Wilkins and Dr. J, I ain't going to front on them. No. CeCe Sabathia, they chased his ass out the stadium. We understood that. The price of fame. Because I got the feeling. I opened my door. Niggas like, where'd the mother fat Joe? suck my dick nigga fucking this I said holy shit
16:53yo on intro like this was the first bit of termite I swear to god nigga ain't never tell me that in my life I see yo Joe with sports I go to the door they won't let me in no intersection though nah another door this this this I get down there I start arguing with the white guy who's the nice guy, the white guy who tells you, sir, what's your ticket? You know, they're usually nice. Don't sit down, don't cheer. Like, yo, Philly on some shit when it comes to the sports. Legendary, right? Because I've never been, I've never had a problem in Philly my whole career. My second biggest market shot, I go like, yeah.
17:29A nigga pull up, he talking about, he had this shit. Nah, that wasn't rewind. That was like Beijing or something. He had this, somebody got to tell him. Like, if your mans, listen, you know, we see that shit every now and then on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We caught one in physical view. Real life. And we're arguing. We're arguing. They had two OGs in front of us look like real dudes. They were sitting right there, you know. And they was like, yo, Joe, y 'all about to go. And we going back and forth. But I fuck him up. He don't even know the nigga in front of him with the shit. I said, yo, but your mans.
18:04Like, look at your mans. Like, this is who you riding with? Another Philly Strader. out. I said, look at your man shit. Your man nigga got tight. The niggas got up the way. I kept... He wasn't even with them niggas. I was like, yo, but your man's your shit. Yo, this the Philly fan. If you would have broke out of the sweat, that shit would have ran down the neck. He was trying to avoid the light. He kept... He kept moving down to get out of the light so his shit won't melt. He's embarrassing his family. No, the niggas... We not even... We can't... We not even exaggerating. This shit was straight.
18:38What's the shit on? Spray paint. Yes. Oh, Rich got it. Oh, you got it on tape? Well, we put it on the clip. But I kept fucking with the dude because the dudes are OG. Look like a hustler. Real niggas. Two dudes. They had nice seats. But he tried to start with me. I said, yo, but your mans though. And he kept, he don't even know the nigga. I just kept saying. It made them lean. They all left. Yo, look, niggas got up. He embarrassed to sit in. Niggas are like, yo, we out of here. Yo, he's embarrassed. Yo, this is what this is.
19:06Rick Ross:That's what it was. This is what you repping for? Embarrassed to see. He got up. Yo, that nigga don't like me no more. The OG probably was like, yo, fuck that, Joe. Nah, it's a good thing. The whole Philly don't like us right now. Philly don't like us no more. Fresh off that versus, how was it? Because how's it? Where was y 'all at? In the Apple studio? Apple studio. How was it? The energy looked like it was nice energy in the building. No, French, my brother. No doubt. That's my dog. You know what I'm saying? So we just went up there and shined together. No doubt. That's what it's supposed to be.
19:34Go get a bag and shined together.
19:36Rick Ross:Yeah, go show them your sneakers and your jewels. That's it. Run name major. That's it. Shit too easy. You know what I'm saying? Now you got the renaissance of a boss. How many bestsellers? What's this? Number two, three, four? Man, this is actually my third release. I got the young legend, Neil Beckham in here, the one that actually put the pin down when we just having the discussions. Neil, come over here and join us. Come on over, Neil. Yeah, but... Neal, what's up, brother? Make some noise for Neal, man. You know how I'm seeing right here, Neal? You already know. My brother appreciates you coming out.
20:13Rick Ross:Welcome to the couch, my brother. You know what I mean? But this is the third release right here. The first two bestsellers. And this one right here is just most definitely just me in a free spirit zone. No doubt. Now, Neal, tell us what it's like sitting down with Boss and then, you know what I mean? He's kicking it. And you got to put that into visualization. And also into some good dialogue for people to read. You know, a lot of these rappers can't read.
20:45So Ross was a whole different beast, right? Because my first book was the Gucci Man book. And he was locked up the whole time. It was a great book. Thank you. Very generous. And so, you know, that was done a lot of times over the phone. And you get 10 minutes or whatever. He's in the feds. so the phone time it was super limited so but on the plus side that made it really productive because when we talked he only had this time then I get with Ross and I could be living with Ross for six months following him around
21:18Rick Ross:and he won't say one word to me one word to me no no no that was only for one reason I told you what it was thought you was the fucking fans thought you was the fans yeah he gotta say thought you was the fans I thought he was a lot of things You fit so many. When you can't. No, no, no. You got to realize. Pastor. When you sign a shield and you get a big check and there's somebody new come around and they sitting there. Niggas dig. I said, yo, I used to take my wife with the feds. When I met her, she was too beautiful for me. I said, damn, they setting me up. That's true. They gave me a Colombian.
21:53Hold on, hold on, hold on. That's a flat. Here you go, bro. You getting it now. For about a good 12 years till I noticed the statute of limitations. She did enough crimes with me. I said, all right, fuck it. She's the feds no more. I thought she was the feds.
22:08Rick Ross:Yeah. But so how do you put it in his words? So look, so this particular book, right, was different from the first two and very different from any book that I've done before, right? Like what I'm used to is trying to figure out a story that's already happened, right? hey, Joe, tell me about your life. Jada, tell me about your life. And I'm getting a story that's already happened. By the third book, I'm like, what else do we have left to talk about? And that's when it kind of becomes like, oh, I'm not figuring out what the story is. And then we're putting in your words and putting it out there.
22:49We're making a story in real time, right? We already talked about in the first two books, everything that already happened. We got to make, and that's why this one was so exciting because we didn't even know how it was going to end. It's all unfolding in real time, right? The book starts with him getting a book deal. And it's like, what the fuck are we going to write about? And it's just really just about that process, right? And with Ross, like I said, Ross and I have never one time sat down across from each other, put a recorder on the table, and I ask him a series of questions and he gives me answers.
23:22That's not how this guy operates. So I just got to be around and absorb it all. I got to be around absorbing all cue stories and then afterwards put it together we talk about it we change it but it's with him it's so different it's I've never interviewed you know what I mean I've never I've never said asked a serious question I've just been around and taken it all in it's therapy he taught you some therapy Renaissance of a boss, man. I'll tell you what it read like for you rappers that can't read.
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24:02Rick Ross:And for the rappers that can't read, that's fucked up. We got to, you know, reading is fundamental. But for Rosé, my first book to me was about me introducing myself, not just as an artist, but on a personal side of who I was for anybody that didn't know me. The second book was me coming from an entrepreneurial standpoint. me having X amount of partnerships, me investing this, me, this many franchises, this many, this, this many, that this one was more like, yo, I'm 20 summers in the game. How do I continue feeding that fire and allowing it to burn? Not just where I'll be recording music, but actually giving the streets on my field they need.
24:47Rick Ross:You know what I'm saying? So that's what this book about. You know what I'm saying? and still waking up every day and still feed that fire and doing it in a major way. And not just winning, but winning bigger than, you know, you could ever really put on the table and expect. Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother. Yeah, of course. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. Thank you, brother. Yo, Ross, man, I'm looking at your beard. It's so flawless. You got, this nigga got to shave his ears, man. You got to put them on. Yo, yo, yo, yo. I'm just keeping him up with you. What? What? What? Not a flag? Which one?
25:26Which one?
25:26Rick Ross:You all that thing got? I ain't know. I missed the flag. He still was looking like Calabilla. Said he got to tell him to shave his ears. He got to shave his ears. He's getting a little bit of pressure. No, no, no, no. The mustache he had the last time I seen him, it scared me. And I told him I asked him on personal level, let it grow all out. And he did it for me. My brother did. He's doing his mustache out in his ears. No, that mustache look like you be on Forensic Files episode. You see what I'm saying? We got a mustache. He ain't here today, but we got a guy that... A mustache is a sick one.
26:00We got a mustache.
26:02Rick Ross:No, you got to watch them. No, you got to watch them. No, you got to watch them. Yo, I don't fucking trust that guy. No, no, no. I tell you that all the time. I'm looking at him. You know, the raw mustache is scarier than a pooch. He's got all type of tacos and shit in his mustache. Oh my God. That motherfucker out of here with that shit. Nah, keep. Raleigh fingers. Yo, ah, yo, Freddie. What's up, brother? 57, Freddie in the building. Freddie pulled up. You know what I'm talking about? That's my nigga, Freddie, right there. You know your man one time tried me. What's my man's exclusive game? See?
26:37You don't remember that, huh?
26:39Rick Ross:He tried. He hit you a button. I know him. He don't know how long I know him. That's what he did. That's nothing. We pay. We pay. Yeah, we do. But one time he told me I was jacking his style. I don't know if he remembers that. I was at a fashion show with him. He said, yo, you've been jacking my style with this. I said, wait a minute.
27:00I had to pull up a rap video 20 years old and show them with the Goyard shit, all leather from head to head. I said, bro, there's no way. Like, I've been doing this for 20 years. That was 15 years ago, conversation I'm having with you. I said, yo, this was 20 years ago, my nigga. I had the Goyard. I turned the Goyard bags into fucking the whole outfit. I mean, you got to be kidding me. He thought I was jacking his shit. He said, yo, man, you know, I've been watching you. You've been jacking my shit lately. I said, Papi, you got this shit fucked up. I've been doing this shit. It's 88, but your man, he good guy, man.
27:37Great guy, great guy.
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31:59Because one thing I never understood I don't talk to you every day You know, you never done nothing Wrong to me in your life In fact, I don't know How I could actually say that In reality, they say I cap Or whatever they want, but you never Did nothing wrong to me in my life Like nothing, you never been a funny style nigga You never changed on me, you never nothing You always been the same Guy all the time It just, when I was taken with, I didn't understand the Drake, Rick Ross beef. Right. Being y 'all have such a catalog together, y 'all been together since day one, making hits together, this and that.
32:39Can you explain to me the origins of Rick Ross and Drake falling out? Like, what made you say, yo, fuck that, I'm not rocking with him no more?
32:50Rick Ross:Rosé was mentioned. I was mentioned. Oh, you was mentioned first. First. Facts. Oh, so that's how it happens. That's how it happens. You just defended yourself. It ain't even defending. You understand this homie mentioned Ricky Rosé and Rosé do what he do best. I go bad. I've been doing that a long time. I've always enjoyed giving a nigga a spanking if you don't understand what's happening. It ain't that. Rosé was mentioned. damn why would he mention Rose like I didn't I never understood that whole like that's one thing this show on fire when you get little man right here you ask him what made you mention Rose homie that's it it's that simple yeah just like I asked you because I was confused yeah that's what it is what happened and that's what and that's what and that's what and that's what and that's what real ones do you address it and it's really too easy.
33:56I ain't understand it because I always thought I always thought he with us. I never even recorded a song with him or nothing. I always thought, yo, no! Yo, Ross. Yo, Ross. No! No! Stop! I swear to God. I always thought he was with us. I thought he was with us. I'm like, you know. No, you got to understand.
34:22Rick Ross:We always, you know, we rock, homie. At that time, Cash Money was in Miami. It was a positive thing we had going to. Khaled was the glue. You know what I mean? At that time, when I was doing records like Aston Martin Music, that was Rose saying, yo, Chrisette Michelle going to do this half of the hook. And I'm going to get, you know, at that time, I got John Legend, the biggest R &B motherfucker in the game at that time on Speed Dial. You understand? Yo, I'm going to put John Legend on this one too. That's Khaled in the background. Yo, it's a little dude. His name is Drake. Let him do it. You know, and cool.
35:01Rick Ross:It's John Legend at the time. Yo, we do it. And it was just a genuine vibe. When it went left, hey, man, that's for them to figure out. I ain't figuring that out. You know what I mean? And shit, it's really small talk to me. Once you mention Rosé's name, I'm going to enjoy it. I'm going to enjoy coming up. That's just me by the pool. BBL Drizzy. You know, you know, nigga know you had the tummy tuck, the nose reduction, all that shit. That shit. No, I'm giving you what you ask for. No, I'm giving you what you ask for. Rose can't let you down. On the plane. I can't do that. No, I won't let you down.
35:46I didn't want it.
35:47Rick Ross:No, I won't let you down. Can somebody call me some Bel-Air? I'm going to give my brother what he need. Woo! Let me ask you another question. Too easy. Bel-Air, right? Too easy. I know you're a partner in Bel-Air. Did you sell some of Bel-Air, like some of the equity or something in the Bel-Air? Of course not. So you still own the same... Y 'all never sold at all? No, man. Shout out to my big homie, Brett Barish, man. So you're not, like, building a brand, and then you sell it, and then you... So that never happened. Not yet. No. Once you tap out, you go somewhere, you go and create something and start building something new.
36:27Uh-huh.
36:27Rick Ross:You ain't going to sell it and shit keep going. Yeah. Once it's sold, it's sold. You know what I'm saying? We still Luke Bel-Air. And I've seen the new yacht. You was like. I know it's hard to explain. No, it's hard. I get it. Yo, Ross. I get it. Yo, Ross. It's hard. That's why I think the writers might be the feds or something. I get it. Yo, Ross, I'm a little stage fright. I'm going to be honest with you. Like, I got, you know, I live in a, you know, I got a couple of properties. Let's be clear. Right, right, right. I live in a big house. The wife want a bigger one. Right? For no reason. And I'm getting a little, for no reason.
37:07Yeah. I'm getting a little stage fright. Get it. Get it, clean. Get it. It's so big and it's only two people. I'm like, yo, do we really need some shit? Of course you do. Of course you do. Who talks?
37:21Rick Ross:Yvette, you don't talk about this shit. You keep getting bigger and bigger. Go more and more. Yeah, that's the motivation. Don't do that. Don't do that. When your wife see this show, she come back. No, that's what I'm trying to tell you. I'm in the process right now. Bigger? Yeah, I got to go big. Go bigger. It's all your fault. Motherfucker. He's saying. Go bigger. Go bigger. Go bigger, huh? Yeah. Dang. That's going to motivate you that much more. That's what it do for me. The house already big, man. No, no, no. How two people, what, we gonna ride scooters in the house and shit and slap five?
37:54You could. This shit too big.
37:56Rick Ross:Why not? Just go walk around the neighborhood and look at you. You never get stage fright? Never. Remember, I was shocked when Khaled bought that big-ass fucking house. I said, yo, Khaled, man, are you sure? Never. He was like, yo, and Khaled's one guy I worry about, which I know not to worry about but he's one guy I check up your college because I sit there and this nigga spending so much money I'm like yo how do you do like I know you know we all get money but at least I think of my limitations right like so I'm like yo there is no limitations there is none you know what I'm saying buy the watch Rich buy the watch today yeah buy the house Rich buy the house yeah Yeah.
38:44Rick Ross:Buy the house, Rich. I bought my crib for - I'm going to buy that house because of Ross. Yeah. And I'm going to put Ross's name in the house. And one of these fucking balls, I'm going to leave it. Nah, nah. Nah, nah. Nah, nah. Hey, this is you. Nah. This is you. You convinced me. Buy the crib. I've been fighting the power. No, buy the crib. I bought my crib for$37 million. I put$25 more into it. Before it was done, I had two offers off the rip for$100 million. Just stop what you're doing. But my neighbor right across the street is spending$1.5 billion on his crib. His name is Ken Griffin. He bought eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14, knocking everything down.
39:30Rick Ross:It's a great investment. So my crib would be worth, I'm sure, easily$350,$400 million in two or three years for no reason. it's called cops.
39:45I've been trying to fight the power.
39:50Do it. Do it. You know, I meant to blow in the bag. I tell them all day, I blow in the bag, I don't give a fuck.
39:56Rick Ross:That ain't blowing the bag though. You ain't blowing the bag. That's blowing the bag up. Nah, blowing the bag is something totally different. That's when you fucking the money up. When you're getting into real estate in Miami, it's the hottest motherfucking place in the world. they could build them cars they can't build that corner no more they gotta buy that corner they gotta buy that lot right now they got a house she trying to make me buy that shit he got a hundred bodies he serve a hundred lives that shit make me feel like damn I'm gonna have to go back to Africa China right now I'm good I own my crib I got money in the bank I'm so good and that shit gonna put me back on that yo fat Joe hustler of the year yo can we do Joe and J nah that nigga in the Antarctica doing his show for some fucking Eskimos cause he got oh go get it go get it that shit go get it that shit right there go get it man alright I'm telling you go get it Ricky Rose ain't gonna tell you nothing wrong you know how that shit Uncle Dan be like yo my fingers feel like I ain't gonna tell you nothing wrong you got me hyped right now this shit got me hyped right now my palms are itchy I said yo I got to go for it.
41:10You know what I'm saying? Fuck it, right? Because the way I look at it, it's like, when you pull up the Fat Joe crib, you want to feel like, when I say, when you say, yo, Ross in town, yo, pull up to the crib. When you pull up, you be like, all right, it's Fat Joe crib. Like, you're supposed to open the gates, pull in shit a mile long, shit big. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to tell you how I,
41:30Rick Ross:I'm going to tell you how I think, though. That don't define a nigga money now. That's just like me. When I'm standing on the outside of the ocean, you could see some of the richest motherfuckers in the world pull up in a boat that short. So you know what I'm saying? I don't look at it like who got the biggest boat got the most paper because it'll be a motherfucker like King Griffin. I'm talking about worth 60 B's going by just, and I'm like, damn, look at the homie right there. He just... He in the paddle. He in the canoe. Oh man, some small shit. And this a motherfucker who own a 300 foot, you know, so you know, the mindset different, but I just believe and really invest in that shit.
42:11Rick Ross:Rose ain't going to run it. I'm going to run it. I'm going to throw the dice. Yeah, yeah. You definitely do. You definitely throw the dice. I've seen you do shit. Your life is so amazing, Ross. No. I live vicarious through you. I see you. I said, man, if I was single, I'd be living like Rick Ross, man. I'd be looking at you. I said, man, I'd be listening. I ain't going to let you angle. I said, this be a fucking problem out here in these streets. the big boys would be tearing this shit up. We got to. We got to. I'm home. I'm nice and home on that couch, writing my graffiti, minding my business.
42:49I'm minding my business. I love it. So, so, so, Rosé, what's new? You know, the verses, I'm going to be honest with you. Uh, I don't like friends doing verses like that. Like, you know, I try to start with, with, with Ja Rule for no reason. They did it the right way. They didn't do it. I was threatening them and all that. Nah, but I like to, you know, I'm a sucker for a fight. You know what I'm saying? I already knew French and Ross. I knew what that was. Y 'all got like seven song hits together, too. So I was like, all right, I know what that is. That's going to be easy. When you went out there with Dipset, even though you get along with them, you went out there with the Venom.
43:29They started with... See? They fucked up. You heard, Ross? They started with you, Cassie? My gosh, yeah. What did they say to get you like that? Because you were easygoing guy. Why didn't they get you? You had that. Why are you doing this? No, no, I'm in the crowd. You was in front and center. I'm in the crowd. I don't know. You heard everything that I heard. They told me we wasn't from, we wasn't home. It started like that. This ain't y 'all backyard. Y 'all ain't from your head. This, that. Yeah. Meanwhile, he's your neighbor in Coconut Grove. He's my neighbor in Coconut Grove. Shout out to Ken.
44:04Right, man. Shout out to the niggas that put me down in Miami. Eat your damn with your life. I moved to Miami. New York was so mad. Like, so mad. I didn't say that. There's something to talk about. You know how much people wish they could move there that's so mad? That's a great investment. It felt like... And you're going back and forth. This guy here, my whole life, he's the only rapper in New York City. I bumped into Lil Wayne at the supermarket more in Miami than I bumped into. He's the only rapper I would bump into. He be going to the weed spots. He go to the stick ditch. Other than that, I've never seen a New York rapper in New York.
44:49I haven't. I'm sorry, guys. I don't know. Fat Joe is in every boat there. New York rapper with stickers. No, no. I'm telling you the fuck going on. No. They not outside. They ain't been outside.
45:03Rick Ross:Niggas ain't at the sneaker spot? No. Niggas ain't at the spot eating oxtails? No. Niggas ain't eating the motherfucking oxtail fry rice down in the borough. I'm not saying niggas ain't real. What I am saying is when I drive down 125th, 145th, Brooklyn, this, this, that, it's only me. I'm going to tell you, it's hard for me to believe that because me growing up, when I turned on When you're on TV, we raps all over. I'm not talking about the TV. Culture sites for kids. Niggas. Oh, no, no, no. Niggas is on the corners. I'm not talking about the party. They coming to the party. No, not the party.
45:41I'm just saying bumping into the niggas. Bumping into a New York rapper, it don't happen. That's crazy. And I'm outside. Every bodega, every taxi driver, every... Anybody you name, Jamaican joint, Spanish joint, they no fat joke. I'm outside. When I go, I'm in Miami. No, I believe you. Because when you're in Miami, nigga, you there. When I say I'm in Miami, it was almost like a cemetery. Like a nigga died because he was the only one they see on the corner. He's the only one to get out and argue with niggas and talk shit. He the only one. They lost their presence. Yo, this nigga done left. What kind of shit is this?
46:18This nigga. Like, I was. You. It wasn't you. So you didn't catch the backlash I was catching. So they was dumb type. I never left. Now you get the ultimate. you get the ultimate New York verses and the first thing he say it ain't the niggas that move to my I thought he was shooting me I was in Hermes in the crowd I wasn't in New York I made my first album in my head I fucking love my head but you said but we're in the mecca of New York and you telling me y 'all ain't home y 'all ain't from here and you don't live here
46:55Rick Ross:presently that's what made you set up That was a spark. Yeah, that was a nice thing to spark. But hip-hop was always based on that competitive spirit. This is a competitive sport. So if it wasn't French, my brother, my little homie that we done, you know what I mean, done spent the night in the studio together, you know what I mean, just so long, it easily could niggas could be talking slick. It would have been bad. Like, I could picture Rosé. Oh, it would have been too easy. Nah, nah. Rosé, the bad one. But I go to Carbone and I bump into Nori. I bump into this one. I go to the fucking car wash.
47:37I bump into Cam. All these niggas wanted me to die. Like, yo, he moved to Miami. This nigga's not the real one. Why he moved down there? All them niggas live down there now. Everywhere I go, New York rappers, New York rappers, New York rappers. Hey, everybody. I was just up on the shit way early niggas investing though
47:59Rick Ross:yeah that's how it go what about new music new music they could preorder the album right now set in stone set in stone yeah it's out June 12th June 12th y 'all set in stone Rose your best verse to you your best verse to you I got one that's your best No, no. What is it? I got him. Did you? Yeah, what is it? I said it's the shit with you and Kanye. What's that joint? Devil in the New Jersey. That was a beautiful moment, without a doubt. And for a lot of people, that shit was an emotional, passionate vibe. You know what I mean? But it just, for me, it depends on the mood I'm in. You know what I mean?
48:46Rick Ross:I done said some shit, man. I done had fun doing it. but what is your favorite verse? What do you think? Just coming off the top of the dome. He got a lot. It's too many. Don't fucking flash. He's not one of few, few great creations. I got one. My joint enemy with Big Al. That's my favorite verse of my whole career. You got to know what your favorite verse is. You don't have a favorite verse. He has a lot. When I go to my Ross Missography, it's not verses. It's projects. and I might, depending on how I'm feeling, it's rich forever. It could be, it's all type of shit. I got a section of this him and Rafael Sadiq.
49:28He shit sound crazy. They ever made. One of my favorites is, I'm in the, in the, in the, in the honor. Do, do, do. Sticking right here. Do, do, do. It's crazy. But that's some of those,
49:42Rick Ross:that's some of those Rosé B-sides, man. And that's the thing. sometimes those B-sides mean more than the big records. It could be Tears of Joy, one of those verses from Tears of Joy. There we go. It's like I'm just tapping in, speaking to my mom, and letting her know, you know what I'm saying? Thank you for supporting the boy. 1800. No, 1800. Rose, keep it 1800 with it. You already know what it is. 1800. Rose, the biggest. We doing deals. Man, we got to do it big at all times, man. We celebrate going out on tour. 20-year anniversary. I'm going out with the orchestra. We going to do it big. You know what I mean?
50:24Rick Ross:We setting it off in Miami. May 29th. Fly shit. Big boy, heavy boy shit. I might got to come down there. I got to give you flowers that people always give you, but probably sometimes they, for some reason, might not. But your beat selection is out of this. it gotta be one or one A. You never pick the bad beat ever. Ever. I'm talking about for freestyles, for throwaways, for your shit. I don't know how. I don't know what your process is. I don't know what you tell them, give me the special hard drive, come live with me and make this. I don't know what the fuck you do, but you sent me a beat one time.
51:10Appreciate it. Appreciate it, my G. He sent me a beat. I had to be Justice League at the time. But the beat is so crazy. Look, he just sent me the beat. They gave you. He just sent me the beat with nothing. Me calling back, bro. Yo, boss, what we doing with this? That's all he said. We getting all your money, kids. And hung up. We getting money. And then the shit turned into a beautiful fucking. A beautiful record. I said, yo, this thing is the illest thing. A beautiful video. Just think all your money. And I got this verse on time. I was saying, this thing is the illest. Anybody I ever did a song with, this is the illest ever.
51:54Just all your money. My nigga, all your money. Because you do it in your sleep. And you pick great beats. I pick incredible beats, too. So it's one of the things. I know some rappers that would have had 100 times better career if they knew how to pick beats. The greatest guys in the world. Not an easy thing. And people take it for granted. The fucking greatest. You know how many artists I know dead and I never knew how to pick beats? If the wrong person, if the right person pass you the wrong beat, you think is it. And that's like an epidemic. You know, this is very old school. The right person can pass you the wrong beat and you just think that's it.
52:37because of who passes you. This is very old school what I'm going to say. You can meet a nigga at the gas station pass you a hard drive that fucking blowing shit. Am I right? Facts. Go ahead. I've been there where rappers invite me to their listening session and I go there and they niggas just banging literally because, you know, New York, we was very exaggerated. Like, you remember back in the days when you talk about them MTV videos where niggas used to really dance and all that? So if a nigga on your dick, He running up the wall, banging his head, acting like it's really incredible, like they doing too much.
53:12And I'm sitting there. They're like, yo, crack, what you think? The album really trashed, my nigga. I'm sitting in the studio. I'm sitting there like, now, why they call it real? This is my problem in life. Why you call it real if you want the fake response? Don't call it real when you want the fake response. I'm sitting in the studio. Niggas is banging their head on the wall. this. I'm like, oh my God, this shit trash in my head. Jesus Christ, can it get any whacker? You only wrong when you leave and don't tell them that. Oh no, I tell them. Somebody who ain't touched the last five. It was hate then.
53:52It's called hate. When you tell them your honest opinion, then you hate and they don't fuck with you. All I got for you is honest opinion. I hate it. This game done abused me to only give you honest opinions. Okay? You know, all the way around, I see niggas, they get in, yo, this guy here, he's beefing with all the rappers. I have nothing to do with it. I'm a born-again Christian. How do Fat Joe know he gonna end up with the nigga? And I'm gonna be the nigga to smack his cheek off and tell that nigga get the fuck up at me. He picked on everybody. I know somewhere along the line I'm gonna have to see this guy in hip hop.
54:33Okay, buddy. How you doing? Okay. You want your cheeks smacked off? The joke is over. Isolation time. Like, get the fuck out of here with this. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Don't call it real. Don't call it real when you want the fake. Motherfucker call me in studio. Niggas is doing the Benetton bag dance and shit. Niggas banging off the wall. I'm like, yo, this shit man. Like, yo, wow. Why do you do this to me? Like, why you bring me to this whack shit? Like... JoeAndJayTheShow.com We got new merch Fresh off the presses Go get it Bang Out of bang Bang JoeAndJayTheShow.com You can get these Little cold for a t-shirt With a hoodie That's my favorite right there I need an extra large JoeAndJayTheShow.com Go there, get it
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58:07Rick Ross:But look, I like what you said about the whack rappers that might get out of line and shit. Just imagine if I had the chance to slap 50 cent with this shit right here. Come on, man. This is a family show, Roy. No, I'm just saying. Just imagine that. That's a blessing. You had a chance to smack the whack rappers with that, you said? Imagine if I could just catch 50 Cent with that. That backhand. No. No, for real. I ran out of flags. We just talked about. No, no, no. You just mentioned it. Joe, I got to give you what you need. No, I'm not talking about him. No, you wasn't. No, I wasn't. Yeah, yeah.
58:43No, I wasn't.
58:43Rick Ross:Yeah, yeah. I caught that. I caught that. No, you wasn't. The whack rappers running around. I'm sorry for me. And then you get the. Bah! I had nothing to do with that. With the million dollar backhand. You feel me? This is that million dollar one right here. I caught that. No, I didn't say that. No, we was talking about... Oh, no, no. No, we caught that. We caught that. Yo, but let me tell you something. When you see your man Gunplay talking about he want to vibe with niggas and this and this and that. What's up with, like... Niggas, we going through things, man. Niggas, we going through things.
59:17Rick Ross:Niggas, we going through things. You understand? Was that the first, like, Benedict Arnold on the team? because y 'all keep it, like I've had them. I gotta use the bath. I gotta use the bath. What happened? No, no, no, no. Stay here. Stay here. The mic, bro. No, no, no. You got to realize, you got to realize different niggas go through different things and everything going to present itself at, you know, at the right time. I can't go no further than that. You know what I'm saying? But the whack nigga you was talking about, we could go back to him. You was talking about 50 Cent, the whack nigga that getting smacked down.
59:50Rick Ross:Man, I'm not even thinking about him. I was talking about a time when he was talking about I called that. I called that alley-oop, nigga. I called it. I'm a dunking. No, no, no, no, no. You told me the alley, I'm a dunking. Nigga, this is Joe and Jada. I'm not doing that, Ross. Stop it. I'm a Wimbayaya, nigga. Yeah, yeah, Wimbayaya. Wimbayaya. Wimbayaya. Rose. Yo, yo, yo, Ross, let me tell you something, though. But, you know, I have my share of defectors and what we call them, to disgruntled employees or niggas who used to be down, they find theyself outside the light. Because it's a light. You know what I'm saying?
1:00:28I'm with Rick Ross. If I'm just hanging out with Rick Ross, if I'm that guy, the book guy, I'm in the private. I'm eating hors d 'oeuvres. You on the jet, nigga. You on the yacht. You on the yacht. You on the moon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Niggas don't understand the affiliation lifestyle. Yeah. The affiliation. We go to the Philly game, yo K. You pull up. Skinny Joe got the fucking cheese steaks for you. This, the affiliated lifestyle, right? No, I tell them, so we got a little thing. We're going to say something, and this is not bad because I love everybody, right? But say, like I hear some guys that work for Cali, they complain, yo, I work too hard at this and this and that.
1:01:10I say, these niggas work too hard at the$60 million mansion. They work too hard on the G6. They work too hard at the fucking Grammy red carpet. They work too hard with the lobsters in states every day. Like, oh, you're isolated in the Turks and Caicos. I can't do it. So if I got to represent the labor unions, I can't represent them. Ross, you got the big shit. You know, when I was a kid, you run into the war, you get a chichon. Spanish niggas call that chichon. They'll put butter on your shit, sugar. You hit a nigga with that shit? I've never heard of sugar. That shit be like...
1:02:00Rick Ross:But guess what? If and when it happened, I got the plug to get a nigga veneers done. I got a dentist's office too, so if a nigga too came out to whack rappers, anybody that can't read, I caught that too, Kiss, you know what I mean? Who can't read? Mad rappers. You can't read? Let's just have a read-off. Well, you know, we'll start with this book right here, the Renaissance book. It only makes it. The only thing you can't do to kiss is put that fucking teleprompter that far away. Hey, man. Hard Rock, best 18, honey. OEKC. You got the higher and the lower. OEKC. You got the this, this motherfucker.
1:02:41I'm going to make you read the rest of the motherfuckers. No, no, no.
1:02:50Oh! Oh! Woo! Rose, man, I'm so proud of you. I see Freddie here. You make, because every time I worried about you, you proved me wrong. Fact. So, like, you bought this big-ass house, Evander Holyfield shit, and I'm like, what the fuck? Rose doing? How many people would fit, how many people could sleep in this house? in Atlanta.
1:03:22Rick Ross:75, maybe? What the fuck? And Rick Ross is there with two, three people, right? So what I'm saying is, that shit...
1:03:32I'm like, yo, this nigga's bugging out like why he bought this house. Next thing I know, you throwing the car show with Freddie. And that shit ran packed, making money out the wild. I said, yo, Rose say, always, always find a fucking way. I mean, that's genius. When did you say, yo, I'm going to let the whole community in my house? To me, I don't throw parties. I don't even talk to my neighbors. Were you to throw 1 ,000, 2 ,000 people in your house?
1:04:03Rick Ross:8 ,000, 10 ,000. Yeah. It was actually 12 ,000. You got to be creative. When you got somebody like 57, Freddie building your old school, it's easy to get a half a million dollar tap. and after you do that a few times you gotta find a way. You know what? Freddie, let's get some money together by G. You feel me? And so we just said let's do it in the front yard. You know what I'm saying? We put it together. We made it happen. June 13th is the fifth annual. Oh, shit. Pacata. That's a royal slap, too, because this shit is like diamond down. Yeah, yeah, for no reason. I had to. That shit got me down with the pink shit on.
1:04:49It's like, yo, let me tell you something. Yo, you Mr. Roy, you slapping. Have come-in. Yo, this nigga gonna hit you with the book. We beat up this guy one time, Ross.
1:05:05Statue of limitation. No, no, no, no. We beat up this guy. He was like super bralette. Jumped up. He was like 15, but we jumping up. Everybody, bang. The minute he turned, bang, everybody getting one off on him. That nigga went like this and caught me, bang, with the back, bang. I was like, choo, choo, choo, choo, choo, choo. I see the fucking birds out there, bitch. Get him. I'm like, don't let that nigga go because if he catch one of you, y 'all don't want this. That nigga hit me with the bang. I said, oh, the birds was like, the fucking stars was going. I said, oh, my God. I tell you that story all the time, Rich.
1:05:44And he ain't calling me with the back end. You catch a nigga with that shit. What? Electrified.
1:05:52Rick Ross:The thing is, I can't wear it in the strip clubs. The girls just want to suck it. You know what I mean? I asked him, don't put it all the way down your throat. Yeah. No, for real. It ain't that serious. No, no. Oh, for real. You go to my Instagram. I say, yo, yo, this.
1:06:22Let me tell you something, Ross. I watch you and I say, damn, he in love this time. Two days later, divorce. The line, the shit be like this. J-Rune with the crack thing on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He get the little ball alert with the fucking crack in the middle. It's over. Rick Ross I'm like God damn this guy Rick Ross yo boy you's a fly nigga yo Rick let me tell you something Rosé for the fat niggas you put they put some shit on Instagram I agreed with them they put all the fat guys Ross Pondy Biggie Heavy D Heavy D won I mean for that whoever that genre they said who's the flyest fat nigga ever I'ma salute Heavy D I ain't gonna I seen all the comments I salute
1:07:06Rick Ross:all the fat niggas man yeah yeah your man your man Your man Heavy D, I ain't gonna lie, he inspired me. No, Heavy D was a fly nigga. He had that Cherokee back then, too. Rose was a young nigga. I seen that Cherokee, but I already knew. Whatever we gotta do to get a Cherokee, we with it. You need that, right? He inspired me like crazy, but you done inspired some fat niggas worldwide, man. Salute, nigga. Whoever they had, and the niggas we didn't inspire. They was Rose.
1:07:40Rick Ross:nigga if you ain't inspired nigga this nigga Ross the L is one of my albums too I remember I might have went one or two charted he called me up good shit my nigga go get you a big stinking lobster with actual butter sauce he ain't lying it's the first thing he ever told me I said yo Rose I met you let me tell you something I'm inspired by success I see from other homies from different places. That's just the genuine Rose way of moving. I don't care where you from. If you, nigga, whatever it is, we ain't tripping on nigga what you is, nigga, it don't matter. If you hustling, you hustling. That's where you from.
1:08:29Rick Ross:That's your race. That's your creed. That's your color. You understand? And in this hip hop game, that's just like me. off the camera, niggas would love to say, I personally hate Drake for life, nigga. Would you hate? No, homie, we not going to make it that. That wouldn't be genuine. If a nigga step out of line and you got to chastise him, that's what you do. But we not finna make that until dog ain't took no dope from me. Dog don't owe Rose no paper. You know what I'm saying? Nigga just, he moved the wrong way. Don't let the Grammys get you fucked up in the streets. It's a difference. I made music for the streets.
1:09:08Rick Ross:I never necessarily went out and looked for a Grammy. That was never my goal. The numbers speak for Rosé. I'm a fan of both of you. Of course. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm a big Drake fan. Ain't nothing wrong with that, nigga. And I'm just hoping everybody increase the peace. Nah. You just said? Nah. We ain't doing that. We ain't doing that, nigga. I'm giving Joe crack what Joe crack asked for. The Wack Rappers, the nigga 50 Cent. I never said 50 Cent. You threw me the alley hoop. You threw me the alley hoop on 50, nigga. Come get it, 50. Oh, fuck you. What they call him, nigga. I didn't say that about 50 Cent, man.
1:09:48Yeah, you did. Don't do that. I had a whole... Look, let me be clear. I don't have to, but I'll be clear. For the record, I definitely wasn't thinking about 50 Cent. I was thinking about some old school rappers. I don't want to say who y 'all are for. Who? It was the old nigga. It was some old niggas, man. It was some friends of mine that back in the day, they had the game in the chokehold, and then they got a big album deal. They got their first big check. And they fly. And, man. G-Unit. No.
1:10:22Rick Ross:It was G-Unit. It was them niggas. The nigga with the dog, Cheek. What's that nigga name? Uncle Murder. that nigga cheeks way darker than his forehead. I don't know what that nigga went through. He need that rewind skin cream, nigga. Them niggas ain't getting no money neither. Rose, no. Rose, no. I caught that alley hoop, my nigga. No, I didn't do that. I went by y 'all, my damn nigga. My shit, PG-13. I'm talking about inspiration. When I see Rick Ross, I think inspiration. I don't think violence. I think inspiration. Come on now. Let's keep it real. The nigga Chiefs, dog. I'm out of here. Listen, the world's watching.
1:11:03You're going to say I inspired that talk. You did. I don't know. You're going to say that shit.
1:11:07Rick Ross:I caught the alley hoop on the niggas. No, you didn't. I went by you. I didn't give you that alley hoop. I went by you, dude. And good luck to the Knicks. That who's City? I say OKC and the Knicks going. Rose saying that. I take that. Who's going to win, though? OKC. Dang. Dang. Nigga, we just putting the money up. You catching the alley hoops. I think. Let me tell you something. I really think, and you guys, man, let me tell you, I lived in Miami. You guys hate the Knicks, man. I don't know why. No, we don't. No, that ain't true. I'm in the studio every night arguing for 20 years with niggas.
1:11:40No, no, no, no, no.
1:11:41Rick Ross:Dre's a hater. No, no, no. Dre ain't no hater. I'm to the stage. No, no, no. Oh, you blew out Philly. There ain't nobody. Niggas fuck with the Knicks. Way to the Detroit. Miami niggas fuck with the Knicks. Niggas fuck with the Knicks. The Knicks, you got to understand, the Knicks culture always been A1. Niggas always been fly, nigga. y 'all should always be fly nigga thank you brother you know what I'm saying why Dre hates so much man that whole studio no you gotta give props to the Heat though three rings nigga three rings you know what I'm saying shout out to the Heat you know what I'm saying but these ain't hating who's your favorite Heat player of all time of all time yeah of all time D-Wade D-Wade D-Wade Crash we called him Crash I love D-Wade I got him in the club when he first came to Miami Crash I thought it was Flash you switched it Wade County.
1:12:29Rick Ross:Yeah, Wade County. That motherfucker was Wade County. You know when we called him Wade County, we called him, you know, that was Wade. That's what I'm trying to say. Now, I'm going to say, besides D-Wade, who's like an obvious one, but that nigga, his son, not fuck, Bam. Get out of here, man. What's that shit? Come on. No, don't do that. No, no, no, no. Bam ain't great, son. If you're going to say D-Wade, You gonna say LeBron James? Tim Hardaway. Tim Hardaway is an icon. Tim Hardaway. No, no, we salute Tim Hardaway. To this day, they doing the end. They can salute Tim Hardaway. Tim Hardaway. We salute him.
1:13:06We salute Lonzo Mourning. Lonzo Mourning. Yeah. But Tim Hardaway. Shaq. With the swag, Shaq. We want to ring with Big Shaq. Shout out to Shaq. Shaq, Shaq. Let me tell you something. Man, y 'all got ring. Y 'all got ring. Come on, you finna tell us something. You finna say something. No, I got love. I told you that Shaq story one time. No. Nigga, I used to work at Drop Studio in Manhattan. And one day I was supposed to meet Drop at the studio. And I walk up in there and this shit is pitch black. And I'm like, and it's a shadow of a nigga this big sitting down.
1:13:44Rick Ross:Diesel. Nigga, I said, that's it. It got me. It came to kill me. I ain't had a hammer on me, nothing. I said, yo, I'm done. for sure. This nigga turned around right here. So I'm looking for the light switch and shit. I turned the fucking light switch on and shot. I said, yo, Diesel, what's up, brother? What's going on? He said, wanted to tell you first, big fella. They just traded me to Phoenix. I'm like, Jesus Christ. I thought this nigga was going to murder me in this fucking studio. All I saw was a fucking shadow of Shaq. He's a big motherfucker Shaquille O 'Neal. But Shaq, I'm going to say to him hard away because D-Wade is just like, it's too obvious.
1:14:25So I'm going to just try to give him a little. Tim Hardaway.
1:14:28Rick Ross:I'm not mad at that because Tim Hardaway is an icon and the niggas salute the legends and the icons. I'm not mad at that at all. I fuck with Tim Hardaway. I think the Knicks is going to win it all, guys. I think it just feels like it, guys. Let's go! We could make us a light wager off the camera. You know what I'm talking about? We could make us just a light light. Nothing crazy, you know what I'm saying? Something light. That SGA, man, they got a real good team, but I think we got a real good team too. I do. Yeah, I think OG getting hurt gave us a chance to see everybody else play. Everybody put in the minutes.
1:15:03Your man finally woke up. What's his name? Deuce. Deuce. He had A3. Niggas been screaming, Deuce, for the whole year. He ain't been hitting one basket. It finally makes sense now. That motherfucker. He had surgery, man. Let the man heal up and get right, man. Yo, Rich, thank God that man is shooting good. The deuce. Because I was done. I was off the deuce train. Yeah, he was shot. He was in rhythm. I'm like, yo, it's time to... Yeah. You know what I mean? Yo, Freddie, what's up, boy? 57 Freddie in the building. 57 Freddie. Freddie, you got shot how many times with an AK-47? No, no, that's real talk.
1:15:42Nine times. Nine times with some shit. These bullets is this fucking big, man. God loves you, man. still a fly nigga still pull up get money with Rose that boy's stomach look like a
1:15:56Rick Ross:motherfucking road map I tell these niggas all the time I tell Caled today I'm driving over there he talking to me I said man let me tell you something I tell you about it he don't let me talk Caled won't let you talk I tell you Caled you're God's child God loves you so much you have a beautiful family you got so much money it feels like you can't even run out amazing you're so blessed in this world The sky's just blue. The sun is out. The this. Hey, Khaled, man, you so fucking blessed. Some people, God's children. You wouldn't be here if you wasn't God's children. Hell no. Eight times with an AK-47.
1:16:31Nine times with an AK-47.
1:16:34Rick Ross:We was already buying the funeral. His watch. The one that was going to hit him right in the center of his chest. His hand caught that. That's why his hand exploded. What would you watch on the hand? That nigga got two fingers over there. but thank God it didn't hit you where it was supposed to big time nah that shit crazy I see Freddie all the time I say damn man Freddie man he got it man you know God love you man he's he spared your life AK-47 shit that's fucking Iraq shit Afghanistan you know what I'm saying you got a story to tell when is yo when you writing a Freddie book I'm pretty sure he'll answer directly I told him shit I told him He got a few books coming up.
1:17:19Yo, let me tell you something. He got a few books. Yo, I went, we almost going to rap, but I went through depression. You know, I lost my sister, my best friend, Big Pond, and my grandfather like the same week or two. And I was like, this was too much for me. And I was the boss, and so I had a lot to deal with. And so I had to go therapy. You know what I'm saying? And when I went to therapy, the whole time I thought I was, that shit expensive. I thought I was getting a jerk. and the lady would just let me talk and talk and talk and talk and talk. And in her form of therapy, I realized when I snapped out of depression is she make you figure it out yourself.
1:17:59She like, she'll talk to you till you figure it out yourself and you over the depression shit. And so you got to realize that, you know, I don't know why I explained that story, but I'm going to be honest.
1:18:16Rick Ross:It's a part of the therapy. Yeah, the therapy. Speak it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she convinced me to figure out myself. She wasn't telling me like, all right, you got to do this or here's these pills or here's this. She would hear me out every week. And then to the point of where I heard myself. And I was like, all right, we got to switch this shit up and get up out of this shit right here. Big turn. You know what I'm saying? So that's the point. Like yesterday was my first mom's day without my mom's. That was hard. Sorry to hear that, my brother. I ain't didn't know a lot of you. That was always.
1:18:52I went to the store. Them niggas had me crying in the car. Hold up, mama. They only played a mama. You niggas in there like you crying to yourself. And so I didn't feel like Mother's Day. You know what I'm saying? And the people celebrating their wives, this mothers and this and this and that. I watched serial killer movies yesterday just to make me forget it was Mother's Day. Because shit is hard. It's traumatizing. You know, that's where we at with it. Check this out. It's called... Renaissance of a Boss. Renaissance. The album is called...
1:19:29Rick Ross:Set in Stone. Set in Stone. The pre-order of the album right now is hitting the streets. And then June 12th, the book. Yeah, the book is out. this actually tomorrow. Yeah. When you see this, the book is out. By the time you see this episode, the book is already out. Let's make it another bestseller. Another bestseller. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's Crack and Kiss. Make some noise for Rose.
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Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Rick Ross, rap mogul, serial entrepreneur, and author of the new book 'Renaissance of a Boss.' Ross breaks down the origins of his beef with Drake, tells Joe and Jada how DJ Khaled facilitated the Miami x Cash Money collaborations, and chops it up about his relentless approach to securing the bag. Ross discusses his real estate philosophy, talks Joe out of his stage fright about upgrading his property, and breaks down the arc of all three of his books with ghostwriter Neil Beckham. Ross also breaks down the French Montana Verzuz, buying the Evander Holyfield mansion and turning it into one of Atlanta's biggest car shows, and his famous verse on Kanye West’s ”Devil in a New Dress.” Plus, Ross announces his 20-year anniversary tour kicking off in Miami May 29th with an orchestra and previews his new album 'Set in Stone,' dropping June 12th.
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