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33:48Monthly rates on the total base 5G unlimited plan. For new subscribers, applies only to the monthly rate for your plan. Additional terms apply. See website for details. How do you get tight with Jay Prince coming from Newark and he's from out in Texas? Really, Andre Ward. Because you know what Andre Ward? Andre Ward was my favorite boxer. So I used to go to his training camps and shit. But he was managing. I mean, Jay Prince was managing Andre Ward at the time. and I met him through him but then it's another guy Antonio Leonard that's like my family now and he introduced me to Jay for real for real like outside of Oakland we went to Houston man I met him in a club and I got actually yo it's crazy I probably was like what 17, 18 I'm not supposed to be in the club but I go through there and they like uh shit you good you with Jay Prince and they take me to a back room and shit he in the back playing uh pool with one hand.

34:51I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there. He cool as hell and shit. But then, I just got to conversate with him. And as I got to meet him more and more, like, he a real nigga. Like, that's a real nigga. Like, I fuck with that nigga. He sure is. And then, that's my family for real. He's a legend. He's a, he's super real. He opened many doors and he got his own island. Oh, yeah. I done. For sure, I done been there. I use that. I tell him all the time. I don't get jealous. Yeah. I get inspired. For sure. So when people that look like us get to certain levels, I look at that like, I'll tell you the truth.

35:28I'm going to admit something. I don't know if I can ever own an island. That's, yo, owning an island, Ludacris on an island too. Yeah, that nigga. I see them at All-Star. He said, man, you're always blowing me up. He on an island. How you on an island? J Prince on an island, man. Yeah. that's crazy though like think about it I don't I own a lot of things I don't know God willing God bless I don't know if I'm on an island like an island is like that's crazy no for sure boxes you said Andre Andre Ward inspired you who's some other boxes that that inspired you and they ain't gotta be your way of fighting just boxes that you always looked up to Floyd Mayweather Floyd Mayweather Terrence Crawford Pennell Whitaker Shigure Leonard Man I fuck with Usyk I like Usyk right now Usyk, Bavar I like them overseas dudes they kind of know boxing at a different level kind of shit You know I'm the Tyson Fury of hip hop You the Tyson Fury of hip hop You know I'm flabby You know I ain't got no muscles but I knock you out Don't play with me See the biggest misconception with Fat Joe is he's fat Joe you think he gonna bear hug you no I'm coming with the fluidity I'm coming with that diddy bop on you boy I'm like a fat skinny guy I'm not gonna grab you we just gonna go pound for pound toe to toe anybody touch the canvas you lost so you got hands I used to have hands I'm not gonna front like I got hands now I had hands he got a bad leg we go We go project against project.

37:17Yeah. Okay? Project against project. They say, bring out your best guy. I'm not lying to you. They bring out Fat Joe. And then they bring out some cock diesel guy from the other project. I'm like, yo, I'm just fat. Why I got to fight this guy? Motherfucker six-packed up. I got him every time. Let me tell you, I had that fluidity. You was undefeated? Huh? You was undefeated? No, I got my ass whipped a million times. Are you crazy? But that's why I don't want to stand. Right? I don't want to stand. I knew this guy. He's a fake gangster guy. Huh? Talking to two-time fellas. Let me tell you, I'm a street guy.

37:57Yeah. Like, real street guy, respected by the legends in the street. Only thing I did was rap. Right? And there's some guys that people respected, and they were gangsters, did a little time, whatever and they was running around here like they tough they got their ass whipped one time and never came back outside i don't know where that happens i used to come outside every day with black eyes big nose big i don't give a fuck yeah these guys retired like so-called like so-called tough guys like acting like you know who you are you got your ass whipped you ain't come back outside you pussy nah we can't we making too many legends out there because you making me call bum niggas out and giving them a name in the street.

38:41You know, niggas is famous for getting their ass whipped by Fat Joe, too. You walk in, where's player there? There's places, look, I love all of you. I respect all the legends, all the street guys, but there's places where the old school street guys go. You know, it's like Cheers, where yo, this is Stocker 147, this is the God Jaim. Still to this day, there's bars that you could go, and everybody who has something going on, go. Any given Sunday, you walk in there and be like, yo, that's Andy, the guy Fat Joe beat the shit out of him. He pressed charges on him. There's always one. Every one of those joints, you walk in, Rich Player walked in, it was like, yo, don't look now.

39:22Guy who told on Joey when he beat him up, you know, that was 30 years ago, Rich. Please don't stare at him, this, this, that. You know, it's people you beat up. And, you know, they become legends because you beat them up. Who's the toughest fighter you ever fought? Toughest fighter I ever fought probably William Zepeda William Zepeda the Mexican that I fought on the card with Edgar that night yeah dude yeah I see he was fighting you dude was tough I ain't gonna lie that was a tough fight he was willing to do whatever it took to win a fight so hello that let me know like yeah you was tough but I mean I dominated but shit it was me other niggas they'll feel like niggas like they gonna understand that that nigga he a real gangster like no bullshit he coming in there he he stepping I don't care who it is he coming with that shit what's the next outside the ring for you outside the ring nah I be messing with my young fighters so shout out to Zay Quinn Moses and Emmanuel Chance my little cousin and not my little blood brother, but like my little brother, but they fighting in April.

40:43And that's going to be next. That's what I'm really going to be focused on, helping them get ready for their fights and making sure they well prepared that night. Oh, that's fine. I met Tank like he was 12. He was down with Floyd Mayweather. Yeah. He was a baby. Yeah. And he was like, yo, that's going to be the one that's going to be the one. And he mentored him up to, you know, he became the man. why you looking at me like that Jaden I'm just looking at you my brother this guy he's a funny dude bro let me tell you something so that was your toughest fight is there any breakage you're out to break is there anything that you got your eye on that you like yo I gotta have that that's something I need to do they fucked up what I really could have did but I was I was gonna have two belts in one weight class and I wanted to be able to like go really do what I wanted but they stripped me out of my belt at 135 pounds really for no reason but that like a money is that like some fake extortion shit going on with yeah it is it is it is it's like break that down both of y 'all break it down cause I'm confused when you win a belt I gotta learn I'm trying to learn when you win a belt You got to pay to be able to keep your belt.

42:07So I paid them. I ain't free. Then keep one more. Yeah, yeah. No, what they did to me is fucked up. Because when I fought Williams-Depeda for the 135 title, I paid them after the fight. After that, I got moved up for the Tia Fimo fight at 140 pounds. They belt don't got nothing to do with that fight. But they're asking me for double of what I paid them after my last fight. You won that fight. For me to go up to 140 pounds and keep my belt, I got to pay double. That shit don't need. But they really got mad at Terrence Crawford. He's supposed to. They had a real beef with them, and then they tried to take it out on me.

42:46But I really don't even like speaking on that shit. It is what it is. Yeah, yeah. It's similar to the Hollywood Walker Fenton breaking news, guys. I hate to tell you how you pay for that, guys. You request. Can I get the star? You pay. I don't know the fence. I don't know the father's shop. no. You know when you get a star in the book? It ain't like you won the Grammy. You copped it. It ain't like you didn't know that a two-time-a-fellin, they ain't teach you that. You gotta pay for the star, then you gotta pay a housekeeper to keep your shit up the bar. You can't come through and sign your own star for no reason.

43:21By the way, you buy that shit. So when they be like, oh, I'm surprised. How did I ever win the star? And you gotta pay more taxes on... Man, hell nah. They're gonna get mad at me because it ain't like you pull up you know you pull up and you be like oh my god they be acting like that let's go half on fuck that does somebody want to sponsor my star out there let's go half on the star on the joe and jada star can someone you know we legendary by the way I don't know if you know fuck rap this show right here is killing these people like they want to commit suicide we should hand out razor blades and cyanide to the other podcasters they're getting their ass whipped this shit is turnkey we open the door and now look of course season ASAP first was just on Dr.

44:11J was on it's standing room only in fact we have a list of people we love and we respect I heard other podcasters say yo it's hard to get well we don't we have a list of A1 celebrity standing by like put me in coach put me in the game and me and him gotta yeah alright he's cool I only heard him say one time hell no that was my man too I ain't gonna say you want me to say it you want me to say it you don't want me to say it that motherfucker was like hell no I was almost like oh my god what did he do to kiss it was a rapper he's just like he's not coming on I said, whoa. Damn, this ain't fucking with him.

45:01Let me just chill. I guess it's... No, Kelly's great. We got to give her props. She just left.

45:12No, Kelly, I like... No, Kelly, I like... No, Kelly, I like... He not being realistic. And listen, let me tell you something. I'm proud of everybody on this staff and the contributions y 'all bring to the game. Because if me and Kiss just did this on our own, we definitely wouldn't have had this kind of fluidity. No matter what, we could have hired cameraman, we could have this, this, whatever. But the way that shit coming in, like I said, turnkey, he got this. At first they was trying to compete. Now they like, yo, let them have it. This shit is out of control. Like these guys, we might bring the Pope on this shit.

45:49This shit is out of control right here. Well, you was with Obama, so you're going to make that happen first. let me tell you about the Obama okay Obama don't know how many Spanish people I made vote for Obama before he was famous okay when Obama's coming up I'm out there in every Spanish community Obama I went beyond beyond he will ever know trying to get the Latino community to vote for. I know his wife. I met her 10 times. I never met Obama. I wanted, if you go to any rich person's house, I don't give a fuck who, the real rich, the minute you walk in, they got Ronald Reagan, they got Trump, they got Clinton, they got, they got the, that's the biggest flex in any 20 million plus mansion, they got a president picture with them right there.

46:50I got a bunch of presidents. I got Bill Clinton with the T.S.'s on. He's in a little bit of an island scandal. But we chilling. We took him off the wall for now, right? Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo. But Obama always wanted that pick. The moral to the story is, I ain't going to lie to you. Puerto Ricans are really black. Maybe. Puerto Ricans are black. I'll break that down to you. That's a fact. There's black people that speak Spanish. Paul Mooney said the best. Google this clip. Paul Mooney said, they really niggas that talk Spanish. That's all it is. For sure. That's it. And so I go up to, I said, when I'm checking in, they go, Obama ain't there.

47:34I don't give a fuck if they had 500 secrets. I was getting that pick with Obama. I don't give a fuck. What did it take? I've been with nothing. I just had to walk up with the fluidity. Secret Service, all the niggas moved out the way like, hey, Joe, how are you? I said, yeah, I said, Mr. President. His wife embraced me. Yo, he's our guy, Fat Joe. I don't even know him. Obama knew who Fat Joe was like that. Ms. Obama was putting in like, yo, he's our guy, right? Thank you, Ms. Obama. Y 'all, let's take a pick. By the time I turned around, Obama kept trying to smile for a pick. Every basketball seven-footer was jumping right away.

48:14Hey, Mr. President. Hey, I mean, it was their shit. about 10 of them, it turned into Rich Player had to like start like, yo, my man, y 'all don't move the fuck out the way. Like, we got to get this pick. It was only a second before the ticket service was like, yo, enough, enough. Like, and I wasn't going to get my pick. Every seven footer jumped in front of me. Like, I was like, yo, what type of shit? Everybody wanted that joint, but I got it. I got it. You know what I'm saying? I waited 20 years for that, but I was definitely going straight and that all Garcia versus Barrios? He looking like he back in his bag a little, right?

48:53Yeah, tell him get in his bag so we can fight. And you want to fight him? I want to fight all these guys. You name him, I fight him. So, yeah, I think we can make a fight happen. I think that might be next, but people would love to see that. Man, it's the same fucking shit that y 'all already know. Take away the fucking left hook. you take away his left hook he's cooked move this way you know last time I had to fucking dude up I said yo I'm talking shit

49:27Ryan Garcia and my man let me ask you the question what's my man and I'm a fan right you gotta know his name you know I don't know shit man what the fuck is your problem him. You know, I'll explain him and you'll tell me who. But I know him. Devin Haney, right? Ever since he got touched, he been fighting scared. That is not a lie. That is not nothing he's doing. He's still so talented to beat these guys. But he been, somebody rung his bell to where the man not the same. He not the same after, even though he won the bell, even though he won the last two, three fights, even though this he's fighting scared I don't like that I don't look what do you think about Devin Haney I think that a scared man is a man that's kind of hard to beat sometimes because when they scared they scariness can help them out in the ring so I mean I think he'll he'll solid fighter he's not a bad fighter so he definitely knows what he's doing his dad gonna make sure he comes in shape so if they want to make it happen, I'm down.

50:44But I know for... Oh, shit. I didn't know we was out here brokering fights. Yo, Devin Haney, what's up? Hard Rock Betts. Yo, Devin Haney. But it got to... You been called out, beloved. It got to make sense, so as long as the business and everything makes sense with it, we can make the fight happen. Now I don't respect your answer because I think you want to fight him for the big payday. Nah, it ain't the payday. It's the fact that at the end of the day, me and him is not at the same weight class. So it got to make sense. I would have to go up. You got to come down. Well, really, because now people kind of overrate that big fights need belts and big fights don't need belts.

51:25Sometimes you can meet in the middle. I would love to see that. Canelo and Floyd. I respect that fight. Canelo and Floyd, they fought at 152. What music motivates you? Give me a little five playlist. It ain't got to be the greatest of all time. you in the locker room you getting ready for prom time I don't give a fuck what they say they big on MMA they acting like boxing fell off but when boxing got a fight it's must see TV every barn, every bar every gym I don't give a fuck where you at you watching that shit as much as you try to diss boxing what are you playing in your headphones on your locker room I'm probably playing like some Meek or probably some 50.

52:13Old Jay-Z.

52:18Tupac. Kiss. Hurt. I'll be going through different kind of music. Last time I knocked the nigga out, I was playing Nori. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? We driving up to the one-on-one. What? What? What? What? Yo, I told a story. I had to fight a guy. He was on America's Most Wanted. So we had to... He's not lying. He's not lying. He's not lying. I got a hundred... He's telling it. There's no flag. It's real shit. He was on America's Most Wanted. He ain't lying. Fat Joe out of shape. I had to fight this guy to eliminate the... You know, the real... You know what I'm saying?

53:06So it was like, yo, you got to fight him. The guy was cocked, diesel, and shit and everything, man. I pulled up with that. You fucking with Joe Craig, man. I don't want to violate because he was the perfect gentleman about it. He was a perfect gentleman about it, but I pulled up. He saw Rich lately and he said, yo, man, I like you. He didn't say my name. He texted me and told me. You know what it takes to fight a guy on America's Most Wanted and you're a famous rapper? Imagine if I got my ass what? That shit would have went beyond violence. You would have been on American.

53:42You knocked him up? I beat him up bad. Bad. It was just my fluidity was a little bit, you know. But I thought I was going to lose. How about that? Oh yeah, that's how it goes. I come from my brother, anybody I know, we too old for somebody who grew up with us. Was you scared? No, I wasn't. I'm never scared. Ever, ever, ever, ever. One time I had an argument with a promoter in Paris, and he brought in like 10 African dudes. They locked the door. Like, I'm locked up. I got up and was like, yo, let's get it popping. My DJ always tell me that story. He said, yo, crack. The dudes came up in there with the gloves and all that, and all I remember is you got up and you was like, yo, so what we doing?

54:28Let's get it popping in this bitch. I've been fighting my whole life. The point is, I thought he was going to win because he's in perfect shape. I'm really fat, fat Joe. But I come from watching my brother and my brother, I got a story for y 'all. The Golden Gun. I can't tell a story. Gotta finish this one. I come from whoever gets knocked out gets knocked out. So I stand toe to toe. You knock me out. Nothing I can do. Congratulations. I knock you out. It is what it is. That's it. Toe to toe. I used to watch my brother fight guys toe to toe whoever got knocked out got knocked out it wasn't no bullshit i'll tell you a funny story so nobody believes me right nobody believes me i keep trying to tell them we was the wildest kids in our age group but we had no money so the kingpins at the time before i became kingpin kingpins at the time used to come and get fat joey to beat up the guys they have beef with me.

55:31So they'll come and be like, yo, we got a Pele for you. We got three pair Jordans. We need you to put it on these guys, right? So this one kingpin who was like ahead of his time, he used to wear Hermes boots, all type of shit. He'd come get me. He'd say, yo, Joe, I got a problem. I'm gonna buy you a Pele. That was a cheap hire, too. It was like three pair Jordans, a Pele. Come on. And I never cared. I really never cared about human. I really didn't care, right? So I'm with him. I go over and I'm going to tell you that, Av, y 'all, it was 182nd and Creston and little did I know, blah, no, no, big dope.

56:11So I go over there. He start arguing with the guy. Now, sometimes no matter how Kingpin, no matter how much dudes you kill, my man Stacey in jail still for 37 years because they knew he was a killer, but they fronted on him in this building and he couldn't take it. So he went over there, emptied it out on his own hood. Sometimes you don't want to do that to the guys you grew up with, and they take advantage of that. So I go over there, and I'm like, this guy's such a kingpin. I'm like, yeah, he could just kill this guy. Like, why is he even arguing with him? But he's from that block. So the guy's talking to him.

56:47The guy don't even think about me. He not even looking my way. He like, yo, this, this, that, arguing with him. And I punched that guy in his chin so hard. He went up. Fluidity on the floor, over the bike. Boom! I'm like, I'm flubby fat Joe. I'm like this. He fall over the bike, I knock him out. Lucky! I'm going to give it to y 'all now. One of these second and credit. I'm breaking a myth. Hold up. Lucky I knock him out. So the guy I go with is pushing me. Like, Joe, let's go. Joe, let's go. Yo, Joe, let's go. He's taking me to the concourse and I'm still trying to front. He's like, let's go. He throw me in the cab.

57:26I get out of there. Little do I know that this guy was four-time Golden Glove champ, the guy I knocked out. And the man for 20 years been sending me. I mean, he's old now, but he was sending me messages. Tell Fat Joey, you owe me the fair one. Tell Fat Joey, you owe me the fair one. Did he throw his shit up? No, I snuffed him. Oh, you got out. Blindsided. Cheated. Whatever the fuck you want. Over there, they was like, in his hood? Yo, but Fat Joe got his. He knocked out. Stock on 137. The man is a four-time Fat Joe. All squared up one-on-one. They was telling... I got a question for y 'all. He begged every human being that knew me for 20 years, like, please.

58:10I got a question for y 'all. Do y 'all still be going to the studio nowadays? He does. He there every day. I'm going after this. Okay, now I just was asking because I know like once I'm done boxing, I don't know if it's going to be like hard and shit to like stay out of the gym. Nah, you gonna go. This is their lifestyle. This is their lifestyle, yeah. You know, bust around, stay in the fucking studio every day for the rest of his life. I don't know how to explain it to you. The studio is$3 ,000 a night. Shit like that. You don't own your own studio. Yeah. You got his own studio. Yeah, yeah. Talk to that shit.

58:49There's a guy in the fireplace. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I don't have a studio. The next generation? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope, though. Actually, in the work that do, one of the labels wanted me to start, you know, developing some of the young talent. Yeah. I think that's the smartest shit in the world. My portfolio about that. I think that would be great. Yeah, now. You know you get them to kick that shit. Yo, we appreciate you, brother. This ain't that. That ain't this. This cracking kiss makes some noise for Shakur Stevenson, baby. Bye, y 'all, Marty. Marty Pugneta. The face of boxing.

59:30Jersey in the building. Shout out to Newark. Shout out to H-Town, too. Shout out to the Soul Food Joint Pixie Mills. I've been watching them. They got the turkey chops out there in Newark. They got the turkey chops. Marty.

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