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29:59You doing your auntie and uncle surgery? Yeah, no, real shit. That's why I'm like, yo, it's a lot of, it's like fucking y 'all up to see me be a little baby. This is crazy. Growing up. She's grown. You know? She's all grown up. Yeah, I know. I seen it in that Kanye video. I was like, what the fuck going on? Like, that was the time, right? That was when she became a woman, right? When we seen that video, I was like, holy shit. I was at the wards when they played that shit. You know, they played the first time on the wards, right? Yeah, that was. I was in there watching. I said, what the fuck? I said, yo, this shit crazy.

30:39And I seen you in a club one time, too. You did? Doing some astronomical shit. It was in Miami, and it was like a pole, like a light. and the way you, not a stripper pole, a pole, and the way you was dancing on this fucking pole, I thought like, yo, she's an alien or something. I said, yo, she out of control with this shit right here. I was like, yo, what the fuck? And you, like, TV doing the pull-ups. You doing all that shit on there. Oh, yeah, when I be like, but that's that Harlem shit. Yeah, we used to be on the scaffolds doing that. Doing the pull-ups. When I'm in battle mode, like, especially in the yams, I don't like feeling like people playing with me a little bit.

31:22And I feel like people would come around like my table and try and like start dancing. I got to let you know because you can't do no pull-ups. You from the years. You can't do no pull-ups. Yeah. We got scaffolds on the block everywhere we go. No, I seen that shit one time. I was like, yo, this girl crazy. Like this shit out of control. Like I said, you a triple threat. That's what I'm saying. I had every stage in my life. Like Miami was like my young 20s, but like as a mom and like just super grown, like I'm so chill, I be chilling. As a mom. But I'm still ready to battle whenever cause I be feeling like people be trying me.

32:05They think you lost. You know what's crazy? I can't even go, I've been to a strip club where the girls didn't even want to dance around me. They was in Timiddy? Yeah. Yeah, but it was the sweetest because it wasn't like a battle thing. Like in the club is when people try and try it, but it got to a place where like, it went from people wanting to battle to now, people don't even want to like dance. I mean, the girls are like, oh my God, could you be dancing down? I feel crazy. I'm like, girl, this is - Do your job. Not even, girl, you killing it. You feel me? Because y 'all be doing shit that I'm like, bitch, yes, get it, you know what I'm saying?

32:40So it's like, I don't want people to see me and be intimidated, you know what I'm saying? like y 'all are beautiful y 'all killing it and they just be like start pop locking this y 'all just like babe it's alright. Oh they want to do a lot. The pop locking the six inch heels is insane. I always hated that shit. You know when you at your videos where they dance or they come to be in your video and then they nobody want to see that shit right they come up in there and start pop locking you be like yo my man we looking for the like a vibe like the other dance. But yo when they start doing the other dance You're like, yo, my man, like, you know, we, this ain't that type of party right here.

33:18Oh, shit. It's crazy. You know, the one time I seen some shit like that was, we was at the Ruck and we brought AI and they didn't want to check him. He's the only player, NBA player, I ever seen at the Ruck that they would not D him up. They didn't want to D up AI. Like, he came out there and nobody wanted to D him up. They was playing them from far, like almost like the strippers don't want to dance around you. I came out there and started going like they was like, nobody wanted to be embarrassed on camera or nothing like that. He was just hopping to the rim. Nobody played defense on it. I've seen that shit before.

33:57Escape Room is an album and a short film. Walk us through the process. Walk us through. I mean, you told us we got to hear everything. Yeah, you got to hear. It's like going to the movies and having to pee. you know, you need to pee, you might miss some. You feel me? Like we won't be able to pause the Joe and Jay show. You feel me? I like that shit. You got - Sometimes you gotta pause. You know, you got, you keep drinking that water, that shit run through the system, man. You know what I'm saying? Water's good for you. For some reason I ain't pee as much with Diet Pepsi, man. Now I'm drinking a whole bunch of water.

34:34I'm in the fucking bathroom all day. You're filtering, you're filtering. Water works. Nah but like real shit It's like it's an experience And it's like It's one thing leads into another Versus like Okay let me listen to a few songs And then I'm gonna go It's all connected I like it Yeah like when people listen It's like an audio movie Like even without the movie attached Like listening to the album It's like an audio movie So it's one of them things Where it's like I want people to receive it And really listen to it When they got some real time Don't rush into my shit If you joy riding a workplace Don't skim through my shit You feel me?

35:04Don't skim through my shit When you got the time to absorb this thing You feel me? and like I said, it will create a lot of healthy dialogue. I think it's important to create those safe spaces and have an album that's not a whole bunch of pointing to the fingers and different things like that. The process is dope and then once you see the movie with it, it's just like, oh yeah, this is insane. I got a personal question. The first album produced by the icon Jay Yeezy, right? What was that process like working with this man? Because I wasn't there to make a song. You on the song. I brought a whole nother song.

35:47Everybody's on that song. It's like 88 people. Yeah, but you on the song. Listen. It's me, you, and 87. Which song is it? I had a song. It's called Pride and Joy. I did with Kanye, but he went and called. Kiss, bust, the diss. He did. The point is. You know what's crazy? I think it had me lay the hook for Pride and Joy. Yeah? I just told you. Now that's 85 more people. 86 and a half. Yo, the craziest shit is. I like that song. Yeah, but I want to be on that song. Listen, I do the another round with Chris Brown. The shit is out of control popping. You know, this game, you need to be on a roll. Sometimes, you know, when I was young, I would just say what you want.

36:33I was just throwing out hits. so much. I gave Jairo New York. I was just, I felt like it was hit mania. Like there's no way I could stop. Everything I did was a hit. Number one. Then you get to that motherfucking gray area. No, I'm telling you. I'm pulling them out. Just everything I put out, I know it's gone. It's gone. I'm putting out hits. Then you get to that little stumble where you try and catch that shit again. That ain't easy. Right. Facts. I go in the studio with Chris Brown we got another one right so now I that was my shit too that was my shit right

37:19so we make another one after that I swear to god it was a smash hit and Kanye hears it says yo let me work on that record he changed the whole fucking He made it like, we had another one. I had another one coming right after the Chris Brown shit. Like another one, like I had one. And he switched the whole shit up. So I know the one time I worked with him, I know what he did to me. What was that process like working with him on the whole album, even though the project was, came out incredible. I mean, I definitely feel like, you know, KTSC was like some of his best work and he's amazing. But like what he did with Gonna Love Me and Ish was like, that nigga was in a whole nother duffel.

38:07You know what I'm saying? Like what he did. And that's why I say like some of his best work. That shit is just like incredible, you know? And I think because it was that incredible that I think it became the both of ours versus a my thing, you know, like a me thing. I think he was, you know, And as a creative, even now looking at it, like being as I do everything for everybody, like this was a passion project for him. I think he was very, very, very, very proud of it. And I think that in that moment of being so proud is like he was living in that moment. And I don't think he thought about everything else that was also a part of that moment.

38:51You feel what I'm saying? Because if it was up to me, like dropping that shit right after Faye would have been insane. you feel what I'm saying um but I definitely think that it was a this project was his baby and he treated it as such you know I'm saying and I think both of us like he was like yeah because you're going baby yay on me so I think both of us being like the super creatives that we are I think that like in that in that moment from one creative to another creative like we both is like okay I get that you probably this is a proud moment for me too it was just a lot of of that you know I'm saying but I think it's an amazing project and I think it's a life changer and it's just like that was that was a time to be alive you just had to you just had to be there you know I'm saying and now even today like I cut so much more grace like I give so much more grace because it's just like people go through stuff you know i'm saying and i think all he ever wanted to do was create you know and i know that feeling of just wanting to create and i think those seven albums allowed him to just create without any of the extra shit you feel what i'm saying so at that point it was blocked everybody out he was locked he showed up for himself and i think that's amazing you know I'm saying I think we always talk about who's being selfish or whatever but it's like you know what show for yourself because it all still helped us in a way you know I'm saying I would have preferred it to to move differently and to roll out to be handled differently because I am the baby and I am the girl so it's just like you know out of everybody I've been waiting the longest you know I'm saying like everybody else here is consistent with their music I don't have consistent music.

40:37So I needed you to pour into, like, continue on the passion of it. You was passionate, like, knowing you killed these fucking beats and now be passionate about this rollout and understand that, you know, we're in this together. You know what I'm saying? I gotta take a slight pause. You're on some bullshit with the green watch, with the green Louis, with the green. I'm acting up right now. What type of smoke you can't, when you want it, all the smoke today? Like, what the fuck? I'm looking at the green watch with the Louis. Like, you acting up out here, man. That's how you feel? Yeah, that's how he's feeling.

41:13You have to come according to our guests. Yeah, that's right. She throw that shit on you. You know what's crazy? That's actually a compliment. I noticed that. When I go places, like, people really be throwing on their Sunday's best. I ain't know I'm coming in. That's a good piece of me. When you come around, you can't just go gray sweats. Let me tell you something, boy. You can't go like you're going to the laundry lab. I love that. I really love that. Yo, these stupid people. And it pisses me off and I ain't really get to get my rocks in. Can we elaborate on these thinkings, right? Yeah, yeah.

41:39Jordan, they love you. Yeah. Because the type of quality they gave you. They let her go action. They let her name on the shit. Yeah, they let her do shit. All kind of fucking trees and shit. And yo, this shit is, this shoe, to me, when it came out, was the shoe of the year. To me. Okay, I'm sure there's other shoes that came out that was fly, But to me, I do the sneaking shit for real. And I know the quality. I know how they let you get away with, you know, Fran Jordan don't let you put your name on the shit. All this, the box it came with. I think I got stiffed. I think they gave me a whack box.

42:21I think you had some special boxes. What special boxes? They had a special box. You had a concrete box. They gave me a regular red box. I didn't get the premiere. They gave it to me regular. I'm just being honest. They just gave you a pair of sneakers in a red box? Yes, they fucked me. You lying. I swear. I'm not even sure what kind of box I got. No, they came in the fly boxes. I've seen people with fly boxes. I was calling the Tina Kirsten out everybody. I was like, yo, we're the fucking box. We're the fucking box. They got a special box. I got to get you a special box. You can put it in the store.

42:52My sneakers don't come in the special box. I got to get you a box to put in the store. They shot my shit in the fucking, what's the joint? The Bening spot and all that. We shot, my photo shoot was on top of the projects in the what, Gucci Frito, with me and Remy in there like this. Like that was our rollout. It's like, you got a special box, all type. I got the regular shit. They was like, nah, you representing, you know, the average man. Nah, but you know what I did though? It's like again, but nah, that's that. That's also the hustle and the finesto. You wouldn't let them just give you. I went into my commercial budget.

43:29I was taking money from different places and saying yo this is what I want to do you know what I'm saying I need to make sure that the people you know that I fuck with heavy receive these sneakers in a special way you know what I'm saying I ain't gonna find the sneakers was sold out before we even dropped the commercial so low key I could have made more than even more boxes I went to give you my sneaker and it was so much marijuana it had got you high in there that night who was it little baby's party or something it was like 3 in the morning I came to give you the sneaker and give them the sneaker, the T.I.

44:00sneaker. It was, I was high. Like, there's no way to fake secondhand smoke. Them motherfuckers were smoking so much shit that night. I'm over a certain age. That show in our A's was, I was in there dying, but that was the tour I created. Three in the morning, bro. I'm up in there and that shit was like dumb, dumb, dumb. They were smoking so much shit. I was dizzy. She was like, yo, I know you got my shit. I said, yeah. I couldn't wait for that dude to walk in that door to give him that sneaker so bad. I was like, yo, little baby, here you go. You got it. Take the pick. That shit was crazy. But, you know, we grind different.

44:38We can't. Jay, the man hit up with one of those. I ain't saying anything. I'm just enjoying the conversation. Auntie's production. So that's crazy I ain't bringing up the fact that I got a song in the video with both of y 'all. We're here to talk about you, though. I'm a part of that. That's a part of my journey. Why be on the big stuff? You know what you're talking about? You know what I mean? That's why you say, yo T, how it feel to... Yeah, how does it feel to have a song in the video with us too? Yo, where's the camera? Like some of the best moments of my life. I need y 'all to understand, like, this little girl from Harlem having the opportunity to work with both of y 'all is amazing.

45:18And I don't ever want y 'all to get lost on that. You know what I'm saying? Like I feel like people see where my career is going and, you know, feel like the other shit don't matter. So again, I say it's all about where I started and people always believe in me. We got a few records together. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, I feel with the most gratitude. No, we really do. You know, and that's one thing I can always say. Like, I call Jay and it's like whatever. And it's quick too. You know what I'm saying? It's like that's the kind of shit that means the world to me. You know what I'm saying?

45:52He let me wait all the time. Oh, you make it wait. You ain't her. Yeah, I'll be having it. I'll be getting my shit. I'm chopping. What am I? They go my acting like, what am I? Chop me? What am I? What am I? Chop me? Yeah, what was what I do? What Jay the kids verse out here? It's good. You start telling me, you know, people give me watches for verses. Oh, you're giving you the hint? That's my artist. That's my own artist. They ain't got to do that thing in the first time. Yo, that shit crazy, man. Well, listen, I'm just happy to be a part. You know what I'm saying? And I feel blessed to have both of y 'all in my life and have been able to work with y 'all.

46:35And I just really want to give y 'all y 'all flowers. The podcast is fucking fire. I could not go into this surgery without coming home and seeing y 'all like this shit really mean the word to me. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's backtrack here. We talked off the air. It's a bittersweet moment. but we walk with the faith of God. Our sister has to have vocal surgery. Tell them a little bit before, you know what I mean? Let the people elaborate a little before we say a prayer with her, before she go on surgery. No, real talk, we got to say a prayer. And since we're going to let them know. I'm good, you know, I think, you know, I've, there's been a lot of years of singing and then, you know, and acting and just a lot of trauma to the vocal cord.

47:18You know what I'm saying? a lot of stress to the vocal core and I think it's just time to fix it and sometimes we just try and keep going and keep going and keep going until our body is like alright now. Your body will let you know. Exactly and I think it's something that I want to handle now so I am able to go on tour and I may not be able to talk when this album drop but to be able to go on tour and even have a bigger moment with that and with my supporters and give them a real show is amazing but I love to be transparent with my people and you know I just wanted to share it because I will be like I will have to really sit back and you know take that step back and handle that and a good thing is it's treatable and I caught it in just enough time because it could get worse you know what I'm saying if I don't handle it so I'll be doing that tomorrow so it's got to be quiet for like two weeks straight that's crazy that's crazy are you the animated one in the crew I am the animated one in the crew.

48:18Cause I'm the one that talk the most shit. You know what I'm saying? No, that's me. I'm like super animated. Hello. I'm super animated. Yeah. I'm like, I'm not even a texter. I got a FaceTime for every little thing. Like I have to like talk and I'm passionate. And that's what a New York shit kicking. I'm at a house soft. I get, we having like a little like conversation and that New York shit come out. Come up out of you. Fuck is you talking about though? like it's crazy all of that all of that i'm all of that they're like yo i'm not i'm like i'm not mad neither you ever see those uh like tiktoks or memes they be doing about new york girls and they'll be like yo i'm dead ass they be like for like the bay area somewhere they'll be like do your your new york girl they'll be like i'm dead ass where like man i've seen some shit on the gram the other day look i'm too old for this shit boy man i remember those ghetto love stories with the with the girl scream she was like jonathan ellis something i'm telling you boy i would get like they had like a hood girl arguing with her man and she was like jonathan ellis i'm telling you don't play with me he's like he trying to he's like yo i can't fucking eat Like, what's good?

49:37Like, she just, I mean, you know, that's part of growing up, right? New York love story. Let me hear about your all-female production company, the Auntie's Production Company. Yeah, the Auntie's Production. Your all-female production company. Really, we have a company called Auntie's 360, too, because we do everything. So we creative, direct, produce, design, merch, stage, design, sound design, movement, coaching, choreography, directing, like literally everything is really a safe space for creatives so they don't feel boxed in. You want to do this? Bet. You want to do this? Bet. You know, and cost effective.

50:17You know, these labels and shit ain't got no real budgets no more. You know what I'm saying? Uh-uh, honey, tell me about it.

50:25Uh-uh, honey. You work with a lot of major brands. Now, how you choose? Is it the bag? Of course the bags have to be right, but I can imagine and they just knocking down your door, Victoria's Secret, all of them brands. All money ain't good money. You feel me? All money ain't good money. I'll be the third one to tell you. I'm going and just snatching bags just because it's a bag to snatch. I'll be that motherfucker right there. Might be a bomb in that motherfucker. I ain't getting blown up. You feel me? So it's just like, I'm very cautious with that. You see a bag, that should be called a - What's the weirdest bag they try to throw you to you?

50:59It's like, nah, I can't do it. I'll tell you mine. What? No, no, dude, you first. Wait, boy. Nah, they tried to get me to do the Fahas, the man Fahas. They had the meal ticket. They had the meal. Like a million. I ain't going to front, y 'all. I ain't going to front. I was doing the Fahas. Hold on. Let him get the Fahas bread. You know. What you had to do? Just throw it on? You had to take the flick with just the thing. Yeah. That was it. Yo, that would have been. You would have been. I said this. No. Oh, but you want me to take that? Uncle Dan was like, yo, it's a mail ticket, B. But what if they want to say, just wear it?

51:39When we was on 170th and 3rd, you wouldn't have dreamed of this. But what if they said, just wear it? You ain't got a post in it. Just say, I got it on under the T right now. No, these guys are not. That's what I'm saying. You should have negotiated. You know what they wanted me to do? They wanted to flick that shit. They wanted me up in there with the solid gold. I got a dog. A dog with a solid gold ball. got a treaty with Tahiti. Did you negotiate? Or did you just flat out say no? No. Was they not trying to hear it under the, just let me throw it under and say I'm, I don't even want to say the story.

52:11Right? I don't even want to say the story. I'm not going to. You said it already. I'm making this about Tiana. I'm not making this about Fat Joe. I don't want to. There is times. There is times. Let's stay to the. They said they want to hear this. They want to hear this one? Yeah, they want to hear this. They want to hear this. Listen, people eat what they kill. Uncle Dan caught a company that told him they had a million to throw Joe to do that. And the man was on my neck. Like, yo, it's a meal ticket. Yo, what's up? This is just a picture. They're going to throw it on. I said, yo, I'm Fat Joe the gangster, B.

52:56Like, you want maybe now I might create my own brand. Now it feels a little better because, you know, we got the Rewind at 10. You could color your beard, your hair. You know why I look 53 when you could look 43, 43, you 20. You know, times are changing. At the time, when they gave me that, it was way too early. I feel like you could have told them, like, designed it like a bulletproof vest and the little straps would have made it tighter a little bit. You feel me? Maybe I should have asked you all these precautions. Maybe that's what I needed. But, you know, sometimes and not only sometimes, yo, it was just a period of time where I turned down more money than I made.

53:40It was just, they was coming with just like - Not be like that. All type of crazy, you think you crazy because I'm from the projects. So I'm turning shit down left to right. I'm like, yo, are you bugging? Like, are you ever going to get this? That's real shit. That's real shit. All money ain't good money. That's a fact. So I'm very selective in who I work with. And most importantly, your freedom, your creative freedom. Cause freedom ain't free. You feel me? Exactly. Speak on it, God. Freedom ain't free. Freedom ain't free. Neither is peace. That's what I'm saying. It's going to come with a price, you know?

54:17So it's just like, you want to make sure you go somewhere where you have that, that, that freedom to do that. You know what I'm saying? Let's talk about the Fahas in the future. We might get that back again. Maybe like I could come in on a creative director thing and figure out this. That might be the name of the company, the Faha's in the future. Yeah, Jaden's fucking. Faha Frieda. Yeah, Faha Frieda. I gotta watch this guy. Free the Faha's. I gotta, Free the Faha's.

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58:09You have an incredible slate of upcoming films with Bieber. I mean, including projects with Paul Thomas Anderson, Tyler Perry, Ryan Murphy. How you choose your actin' roles? That is a good question. I mean, I got to feel it. Honestly, if I don't fall asleep reading a script, I love it. No, for real, because sometimes I will read a script and I will read it and it will go through one ear and out. Like it won't leave the paper. But I'm just like, but when I'm reading it and I can see what's happening while I'm reading it, because I am a visual person, then I know it's it's for me. But it's also like, what's the what's the bigger message?

58:52Like, what are we what are we talking about here? You know, so that's important to me. And then, of course, have an opportunity to work with people that I've worked with. That's another big yes. That's like, oh, absolutely. I gave you a loud screen. I went to see Sinner or something. I seen a clip of your movie and I said, oh, shit, T. DiCaprio. They looking at me. Yeah, I know her, nigga, shut up. I gotta be honest. Only guy I ever been in a group before was Leonardo DiCaprio. Pause. So, Leo said do this Faha commercial with me. Nah. But listen to what I'm saying to you.

59:37The man at the Beyonce concert, he got a hoodie on. This? Like, there's no way to know this Leonardo DiCaprio. You know, we sitting in the arm, we standing in the thing, and it's shit like this. He got a hat like this. He's like, yo, what's up, Joe? I'm like, yo, what's up? I'm like, yo, what's up? You know, because, you know, I'm doing the Joe crack too. I'm out there. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yo, what's up, man? He's like, yo, it's me, Leonardo. I said, what the fuck? Take the hoodie off now. I took a picture with him. Shit still came out fucked up. It's the only time I ever did that shit.

1:00:16And the picture came out too dark. But I made him take the fucking hoodie off. I was like, yo, take the shit off, man. I got to get a pic. He was like, boom, he was a nice guy, man. Nah, he mad. He played by his privacy. He love hip hop, but he's the only guy ever like lost my cool for pause. What is your favorite? Well, I'll give you I'll give you a way out. What's your all time favorite soul food spot in Harlem? I ain't going to front. Amy Roots. Amy Roots was your favorite. Yeah, it was. Yeah, but I used to also love. Well, Devin's was fried fish and shit like that. but um like soulful so Amy Roos Amy Roos was fire the fried chicken was fire the macaroni was fire and coming up like they would like just always show me mad love like from a kid to like you know I'm saying like coming into the industry like I have little events there like because I'm like a creature I have it so once I like something it's like that's all I want to eat because besides SoFood's Chinese spot on 40th and Lennox or it was Grinny's on 43rd.

1:01:29What is the Chinese? Is it just regular ghetto Chinese or? Yeah, right. Oh, there you go on Lennox. 40th and Lennox. 40th and Lennox. They still there. Oh, speaking of food, you know the spot? Well, shout out to Make My Cake in Harlem. Yo, Make My Cake. Make My Cake. They don't want 25th. They used to walk bottom on 7th and you could just smell it. People's watched our episode from the Bronx. I'm from Harlem. I'm telling you. The people from the Bronx, the restaurant you said that got the banging sauce is Groovy Lou's in-laws. Next show, they're going to lace you and bring you to the spot. Remember?

1:02:16Because you told us about it on the show. Somewhere in the Bronx, I got the chicken, the sauce. One of these episodes you was talking about a spot in the Bronx with the banging sauce. Well, whoever he was talking about, they coming. His movie whose sister's husband owned you. They coming. He's about to bring you all the chicken and all the sauce you want in the world. Fonzip put me on to turkey chops back in the day. Stop and shop. They ain't got the turkey chops because I went to every stop and shop looking for the turkey chops. They ain't got it. You ain't cooked, though, man. You gotta cook them.

1:02:51No, no, I'm trying to get them. The question is, what exactly are we talking about? Fake pork chops. He must be hungry because he can't talk about food. Do we need to order? I'm just saying, what's the end-all, be-all? Are we hungry? Because I'm hungry, too. Is it coming now or the next episode? Why would y 'all need to order no chicken? He ordering some shit for next week. I'm telling you right now. Same thing with you, Jade. I'm thinking, is the shit coming today? I'm hungry. No, no, what I'm saying is, we was talking Harlem, culinary. to conduct the interview. He over here asking you about your five favorite soul foods.

1:03:27No, I didn't. You said turkey chops. That came out the action about soul food because the Chinese bottle of 140. But you feel me, but I answered it. Food is really important. So we got the turkey chops. I'm like, yo, like they bring us up. I'm with you. I thought we was on. He said, no, no, what? Shout out to Von Zipp. I'm looking for turkey chops. No, no. What's on this guy's mind over here? And Vaughn Zip used to take me to a spot downtown, like big time, a Caprieli's or some wild shit. And they used to have the turkey chops that you take home and you fry it like pork chops. And it tastes like pork chops.

1:04:06They stopped making it. So the other day I seen a soul food joint and I was like, yo, it said turkey chops. I was like, yo, where the fuck the turkey chops been? What spot was that? And then everybody starts telling me turkey chops and they all said stop and shop, but I went to like 10 stopping shops. By the way, we got rewinded 10 up in that motherfucker too. So if you want to go 53, 43, 43, there's no turkey chops. They are, he just don't know where they're at. I love that we found something though, because I was confused as to... No, he's just saying... I'm just happy we found it. I'm crazy, don't mind me, guys.

1:04:40No, I love it, I love it. I'm just happy we found it, because I wasn't sure where we was going to defend you. I used to eat turkey chops for years. They discontinued it. And then the other day I talked about it in one of the shows and everybody told me, nah, they got the turkey chops. So I went to 10 supermarkets in the hood and I couldn't find the tech. How dare they? That's a big deal for me. That's a big fucking deal. But you know, ain't no swine. Ain't no pork on my fork. No ham in my pan. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what you're saying. I don't know. Listen, your BET performance of long time was categorized as futuristic.

1:05:23For me, you might be like the second to Michael Jackson how much you rehearse and how much you prepare for live performances. Me watching you, I see you all over. I see when you get ready to do a tour, you're getting ready to do something. It's like you're doing unlimited amount of dancing rehearsing and how do you, what is it with that? Do you take that even more serious than anything? I take that so serious. Cause honestly, if I could like record the album and then press the button that take me straight on tour and I don't have to do press radio, everything that comes with all that shit, I would go straight on, I would go on tour for the rest of my life.

1:06:05I love to perform live and I love to rehearse. I'll rehearse my dances. Like I can dance like 12, 13 hours straight. They tired, you still gone. You feel me? Like I would just, I can just do that all day. And that's also why I'm so toned. Like I be so ripped on the toilet. You look like you born six-packed up. Yeah, she looked like - You just born six-packed. No, I was, I used to call myself a Ninja Turtle. You know how they had the little hudges with the six-pack on top of it? Real shit, I was a Ninja Turtle. See, I never had a muscle in my life. Oh. We talk about - Yeah, I tried. I was in the gym two times a day, trainers and everything, and couldn't make a muscle.

1:06:47I don't know. I knocked you out. You needed the fire. I needed the fire. Tyson Fury, man. Yeah, you could have got paid to get that muscle, too. You could have got paid the milli to get the muscle. Who she get it from, mom, from you or from dad? Where'd she get the genetics from? No, I'm asking you. New York. New York. No, but my mom has been heavy into fitness at a young age. You look great, bro. My parents are both fit. You look better than ever. But let me tell you something. In order, I'm a big basketball fan. And in order for someone to become the MVP or to win a championship, it's a certain level.

1:07:33like that's why you see all these guys breaking their achilles and all that it's another like you got to be faster than everybody you got to go another level you got to train another level like to get to that to the chip and then when i watch your performances for no reason you'll be like you're jumping the hair like it ain't enough like for you it's like yo it's like you got so much built in the energy that i believe you trained your dancers because i see you outwork them. And that's very rare, you know, because the dancers, they supposed to, you know, help out the artists. You know, certain artists need a lot of help, you know.

1:08:13Yeah, but I also think that artists don't, other artists, they don't choreograph for themselves. So it's like I'm the dancer and the choreographer, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like, yo, this is what we're doing. This house is going down. And me, I just I love to dance. I love to rehearse. I just thought of one, Jay, that this is you ever battle Chris Brown behind the scenes at a show or something? It's never been a battle, but behind the scenes, it goes down. It's just always dancing. But the thing about it, we be so in sync. It's never a battle. It's always like if he move this way, then we both move in that way and then we catch it and then we just like in our own little world.

1:08:50There's a lot of videos of us literally doing that. We dance all day. People be tired of us. It's like, alright, fucking dancing motherfuckers. Sit down. You know what I'm saying? But like we literally do that shit like all day. And we hype each other up. You know what I'm saying? Like it's not, there's no like, we're not competitive toward one another. And I think us coming up together, you know. We would like to see the videos, the footage someday of you and Chris going. That was a good one. Thank you, brother. No alien talk. No crazy shit. They think I'm a basket. No, I definitely think the world deserve that moment.

1:09:29They deserve that moment from us. They deserve a stern dance number. That'd be insane. That would be nuts. With escape room coming out in August, what's next for you? Well, of course the surgery, how long is the healing? Well, I mean, the first two weeks, I just gotta, I gotta shut up. I gotta be quiet. And then the third week, I'll go into, back into like training to make sure, doing therapy on my vocal cords. Tour after that? Tour probably in January, because then I got to get ready for one battle after another, September 26th coming. Then I got All's Fair coming, and then I got Rip coming with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck.

1:10:12And, you know, it's just a lot back to back to back to back. And then I'm thinking tour maybe like January, February. And then, oh, I'm about to direct my first feature film called Get Lights on the Get Light Culture. And all of my first like feature film. Yeah, so. And that too. Yeah. That's fucking awesome. That's awesome. That's crazy. What advice would you give to somebody trying to do what you did or something remotely close to they want to sing, dance, produce? Have you just bumped into a young T right now? I mean, I bump into youngins that come to me all the time asking me that question and not tell them to be true to yourself and i know that shit sound you know gimmicky or whatever they call it like generic yeah generic because people say man we're for real don't tell me never give up we're for real i'm trying to get signed you feel me so it's just like i like to be real with people in in um transparent to joe's point like i'm a manifest it.

1:11:26You feel what I'm saying? So you got to manifest what you want and you got to say what you want and you got to pray on what you want. You got to believe that that's what it's going to be. It's the faith walk. I tell everybody, walk that walk, walk that walk. It ain't going to be a straight one. You know what I'm saying? Like it's going to be rocks and shit that's going to be thrown. And you know, you might run into a deer. You might, it's just, there's a lot of shit going on, but you got to keep that faith walk going. And that's what I tell him. Like, and, it's just it's important it's not never give up it's not boom boom boom because we have our times we're like fuck all this shit i don't want to do it you know what i'm saying so i'm not about to tell you to do that you know i'm saying but i do want to tell you to believe in and and and have those conversations with god that's the only real like bets you need to make you know i'm saying and understanding that shit not gonna be thrown in your lap and the number one thing is don't take none of this shit personal.

1:12:19My mom told me that a long time ago because I come in at 15, I took everything personal. That's why I was rah, rah, rah, rah, rah because I'm in survival mode. I'm taking it personal. You feel what I'm saying? Like I got mouths to feed, people to take care of. I'm taking this shit serious. You know what I'm saying? And ain't shit shaking. So how I'm going to shake this table? You know what I'm saying? But my mom had told me don't take this shit personal. It's a wicked business. And when you stop taking shit personal, you'll feel a lot better. So now being back on my terms, I don't take nothing personal.

1:12:51And I feel a lot better. And I'm glowing and I'm continuing to grow and I'm doing my thing because I don't take shit personal. That being said, get ready for the Escape Room project. Let's get into one of these bangers, courtesy of Tiana Taylor, only on the Joe and Jada show. You know what I mean? Latina, make sure we got permission for this because last time I tried this shit, they said, boom. Oh yeah, they turned the screen black. Yo, that was a great song. Matter of fact, hold on. Bullshit is that. You sure you smoked in the White House? Yeah. You. Me? What about me? We did this before, didn't I?

1:13:28I watched the episode on the screen. Y 'all just make sure y 'all find his turkey chops. You heard it? Say that again. Y 'all just make sure y 'all find his turkey chops. Dang, he ain't finding it. What about you doing them turkey chops? He ain't finding. Find them turkey chops. Stu Linens. Not Stu Linens. He ain't finding. You could have got it when you did the, when you sold the rum, when you sold the soferizo. You know what's crazy? Type it in Uber Eats. You was right. You type it in Uber Eats, you might be able to find the turkey chops and they gonna find them wherever it is at. You know what?

1:14:03That's my mission today. I'm gonna find me some turkey chops. Let me go to Uber Eats right quick. Let me see if they got turkey chops. I'm gonna go to Stu Linens everywhere. They got some in Louis, I'll get you. They ain't got no, they ain't got no, turkey chops up in Louis. Let's get into this exclusive. Feed the whole damn thing. Put it loud, James. Put it loud.

1:14:23I got a few questions for you. Shit is getting real confusing. Do you want this or do you don't? Mm.

1:14:36I see a difference in the way you move it. Proving you don't give a fuck by losing. I said home, so now I'm gone.

1:14:49Was your wife or was your father that But all you did was make me cry But you enjoyed the view Pain So fucking selfish can't get through to you Who really wins when a family feud So cold you'll turn love blue Your pride will divide the night this time I believe I never said it to me I never said it'd be easy But the hard part is over with you I'm through I believe I never said it to me I never said it'd be easy But the hard part is over with you

1:15:51Lucky day, I knew it.

1:16:07I do move on Thinking we timed out Thinking I signed out The hot party's over with Over with Oh now The hot party's over with Oh yeah

1:16:39Sheesh. Sheesh. Oh.

1:16:47Escape Room. That was the hard part. Holy shit, was that a beautiful song. Make sure you download, stream, purchase. Wherever you get your forms of music, Escape Room Project will be out. Shout out Lucky Day. Shout out Lucky Day. Fellow six-packer. This guy gonna perform six-packed out, this guy right here, right? Lucky Day. And let me... I gotta tell you, the vibe that gave me... First of all, you picked up right where you left off even better growth. Yeah, that shit was neat. That was a beautiful... You know, that reminds me of when she called the car and she was like, you might not have noticed me, but I'm the waitress.

1:17:33Alicia? You know, I throw water in your cool. My boss tell me not to throw the milk. He tell me not to throw the milk, but I throw the milk in your chocolate. What was the name of that spot? Legendary on the 130th. Pan Pan. Pan Pan was legend. Yo, you got to stop. You ain't no pork on my fork. You ain't know the name of it. No ham in my pan. That's a Harlem restaurant. I do the name of it. All right, but Pan Pan. But this is why y 'all got a ham. That's that vibe, though. Well, we're going to pray for you with the surgery. We thank you for honoring us with your presence. You after us, but we feel like you just bridge our era with the new era.

1:18:16Like you're great. She got that cloth. You from that cloth. You know what I mean? That's the mama love. That's hard to be from that cloth. You know what I mean? So we appreciate you and thanks for sitting on the couch with us. Thank you. I'm Joe Crack. J.D. Kiss. This ain't that. That ain't this. And it's Crack and Kiss, baby. Make some noise for Tiana Taylor. Thank you. Thank you.

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