In short
Fat Joe and Jadakiss discuss major hip-hop beefs and rivalries, focusing on 50 Cent vs. them, Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake, and broader ideas about squashing conflicts. They also debate what “real” hip-hop narration vs glorification should look like, with a guest audience member pushing positivity and cautioning against violence-themed music.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Fat Joe (New York rapper; longtime East Coast figure; known for loyalty and industry relationships).
- Jadakiss (Yonkers/NY rapper; lyricist; part of The LOX; emphasizes loyalty and craft).
- D1 (“positive brother” in the audience; speaks about consciousness in rap and the difference between narration and glorification; claims experience in music management circles, including interning for Jimmy Henchman).
- Notable guest references: Game, Snoop, Dre, Nas, Joe (as host figure), and Isaiah Thomas/CJ Toledano appear only as transcript segments, not as guests in this core conversation.
Key claims
- Fat Joe and Jadakiss say they squashed the 50 Cent beef and describe it as avoiding life-or-death consequences.
- Jadakiss credits loyalty and friendship for keeping him from turning on Crack/50-related ties.
- D1 argues hip-hop should reduce glorification of violence and drugs, especially for kids.
Notable examples
- They recount Jadakiss picking up Game from W Hotel to Yonkers studio/bodega life.
- They mention “Hallucination Mount Rushmore” jokes and a “Flex” radio story tied to 50’s beef history.
- D1 contrasts narration vs glorification and cites how drill/violent lyrics can influence young listeners.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussing Hip-Hop Friendships
4:21 to 6:10
The Game and Jada discuss their relationships within hip-hop culture.
“but I just, because you're crazy, game butt.”
Stories from the Hip-Hop Scene
6:10 to 8:30
The Game shares personal stories about his experiences and friendships in the industry.
“Let me tell you the wildest shit you ever heard in your life, and I'm going to say it here.”
The Evolution of Rivalries
8:30 to 10:02
Discussion on the evolution of rivalries in hip-hop and the importance of loyalty.
“Yeah, recently you tampered with a little Kendrick Lamar.”
The Importance of Resolution
10:02 to 12:11
The importance of resolving conflicts in the hip-hop community is emphasized.
“I don't mean to cut you off, because that's...”
Future of Hip-Hop Relationships
12:11 to 14:03
Exploring how hip-hop relationships can influence future generations.
“That's why I keep yelling, loyal, because you refused to turn, even though that was your guy.”
Squashing Beefs in Hip Hop
14:03 to 16:48
Explore the importance of resolving conflicts in hip hop culture.
“So why would they want their favorite rappers still to be their ops?”
Reflections on 50 Cent and The Game
16:49 to 19:25
Discuss the potential of 50 Cent and The Game as a musical duo and the impact of their past conflicts.
“but did you ever say, damn, we could have just smashed the whole game?”
The Impact of Hip Hop's Violence
19:26 to 21:54
Debate the responsibility of hip hop artists in promoting violence and negativity.
“If you know everything I'm not coming out late.”
Artistry vs. Reality in Music
21:55 to 24:21
Discuss the distinction between real-life experiences and artistic expression in hip hop.
“I don't have, there's no Jamba Juice in Compton, by the way, just so you know.”
Contradictions in the Rap Game
31:47 to 36:55
Discussion on the contradictory nature of love and violence in rap music.
“Join me on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS.”
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Influences in Hip Hop
36:55 to 42:00
The guests share their influences and experiences growing up in hip hop culture.
“About the money y 'all put in y 'all cameras, y 'all niggas rich.”
The Impact of Classic Albums on Hip-Hop
42:00 to 42:40
Learn how iconic albums influenced the evolution of hip-hop and personal artistry.
“And when I do, when we, when me and you get to doing our shit like this, they say we lying.”
Reflections on Legacy and Authenticity
42:40 to 43:50
Discover the importance of authenticity in hip-hop and personal legacy.
“and figure out how to beat fuck the frail shit.”
Navigating Conflict in the Rap Game
43:50 to 45:20
Explore the complexities of handling beef and personal relationships in the rap industry.
“D1, we can't have our hip-hop ghosts bringing up old beasts to start a trigger shit.”
The Role of Family in Hip-Hop Feuds
45:20 to 46:40
Understand how family dynamics affect conflicts and rivalries in hip-hop.
“You don't, bro, we ain't even at the end of my story.”
Growing Up in the Streets: Personal Stories
46:40 to 48:40
Hear firsthand accounts of challenges faced growing up in tough neighborhoods.
“What's going on, buddy, with all that shit you've been talking?”
Friendship and Betrayal: The High Cost of Loyalty
48:40 to 50:40
Learn about the impact of betrayal in friendships during formative years.
“I went there and got my ass whooped every single day.”
Experiencing Africa: First Impressions
56:00 to 56:50
Joe shares his first experiences performing in Africa, including cultural observations.
“Everybody in Africa, in this part of Africa, knows there's a guy there.”
Hotel Realities and Encounters
56:50 to 58:20
Joe describes the contrasts of luxury and poverty he witnessed during his stay.
“These niggas lock in the van like, nigga, if the street fighter stole your money, nigga.”
Unexpected Show Offers
58:20 to 1:00:00
Joe recounts being offered multiple shows unexpectedly and his reactions.
“Because I think that you think I'm Chingy.”
Perceived Threats and Decisions
1:00:00 to 1:01:40
Joe shares his feelings of intimidation and the decision-making process regarding the shows.
“But this nigga told me I'm going to do five more shows for the 500.”
Kidnapping Tales and Confrontations
1:01:40 to 1:03:20
Joe discusses the kidnapping experiences of artists and the tension he faced.
“DMX got kidnapped out there, by the way.”
Reflections on Survival and Success
1:03:20 to 1:05:00
Joe reflects on the risks taken in pursuit of success in his career.
“She's like, yeah, we just landed in Heathrow.”
Navigating Dangerous Situations
1:05:00 to 1:06:40
Joe shares stories of navigating dangerous situations and how it shaped him.
“I don't know who Bus called or who y 'all called.”
Reflections on Africa's Beauty
1:06:40 to 1:10:02
Joe concludes with reflections on the beauty of Africa and its diverse cultures.
“I wanted to kill him and steal the money I couldn't get out of Africa with it.”
Exploring Africa's Beauty
1:10:02 to 1:12:02
The hosts share their experiences and love for various African countries.
“The positive thing is I made the most money I ever made in my life for that stress.”
Anecdotes from the Flight
1:12:02 to 1:13:40
Interesting stories about a chaotic flight experience in Africa.
“Usually it's just you and him and some cool guy.”
Reflections on Kendrick Lamar
1:13:40 to 1:16:32
Discussion on Kendrick Lamar's influence and the dynamics of competition in rap.
“This is the Joe and Jay, the show the biggest in the land where we give everybody an opportunity to speak their true opinion.”
Drake and the Choices of Allegiance
1:16:32 to 1:18:10
A dialogue on friendship and loyalty amid rap rivalries involving Drake.
“If you've never heard it, you should go listen to it.”
Transcript
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2:39Yo, son, look. I'm like, no way they're friends. But this is not the old Joe. Hold on. You in LA, Joe.
3:03Joe Crack the Dawn. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is. The Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. We crushing shit. All-Star 2026. Live from L.A. When you think of today's guest, you think of bars. You think of lyricism. You think of controversy. You think of a hell of a father. Somebody who's very opinionated. Somebody's loyal. Loyal. You think of hip-hop. You know what I mean? He bleeds hip-hop. You think of album sales. You think of debut. They duct taped him to a rocket ship on his debut. You think of somebody who was able to be, work under conglomerate status. You know what I mean?
3:56and you think of West Coast. You think of Compton. You take an easy eat. You think of one of the goats. One of the greatest rappers of all time. Give it up for our guests today, my brother. The Gay. Make some noise. Come on. Come on. Come on. You all reach across the table. Come on, fucking goat like. You know what's crazy is, and I don't want to fuck up my shit, but I just, because you're crazy, game butt. A lot of crazy. Today, I feel a lot of crazy. No, no, he's crazy. He calls me. He calls me right after I do the show at Yankee Stadium. He said, yo, they put a drug dealer on the field. That nigga's crazy, yo.
4:40They got a drug. Do they know who they put on a Yankee game before? I can't believe it. When you get to these, like, when you reach these heights, they be like yeah choke fat choke fat used to be fat you know what I'm saying thank god you used to be fat I'm gonna take my hoodie off cause look you're doing amazing by the way you're doing like me and Kes we still way down here right a little bit you though you got you you Snoop like y 'all friends with Mark Stewart and you got those and those kind of, yeah, your friends, you got different. I'm a lovely guy. No, look, they see you coming and they see you nice guy.
5:27Me, I see Joe Kraft. He called me from Yankee City. Yo, they put a Trump deal on the field. What kind of shit is this? This is my connection. Yo. Yo.
5:43I said, damn, damn. How about you finish your set and then I had to go do a deal after you had to go Yo, crack is like, you like Tommy and Ghost Mix. You like them real characters. This nigga's doing TV shows about you. That's so great. No, to cut you off, that's one of the things that I do love about hip hop. We got success stories of people who didn't finish high school. This and that is a large percentage of rappers who can't read. Let me tell you the wildest shit you ever heard in your life, and I'm going to say it here. Are you going to tell me? My daughter's into golf. And she said, Dad, as he's into golf, and she's in some rich golf shit, and she's like, Dad, do you have a friend, Billy Dance from M.O.P.
6:28Mashout Posse? He golfs at my golfs. I said, M.O.P.? Billy Dance play golf? I said, you know who they are? She was like, Dad, he says, one of your best friends for many years. He plays golf in my country club. I said, yo, what the fuck? Shout out to my brother, Billy. Hip-hop. You never thought hip-hop would take it this far. A lot of success stories. I seen somebody do what I did or what he did. I seen Jim Jones tell the world the crack he know. And I saw that and I said, that's right. Somebody else knows. Somebody else, you know what I'm saying? That's what it is. Proud of you. Thank you, my brother.
7:10You know, we had Jalen Rose yesterday. He's about to start talking about how I saved, you know, I saved this life in Miami. He said it. They were sticking them up. Three in the morning, they had them like this. Sticking them up. The Zoes, I stopped the Rolls Royce, came out, said, yo, he with me. They was like, huh, crack? I was like, he with me. They was like, for real? His jewels was already in their hands and all that. I was like, yo, Jalen, get in my car. Because, you know, I don't even trust, like, real criminals. Like, they'll stop for a second. You turn the corner. They'll fucking rob the nigga anyway.
7:46I said, get him a call with me. Now, Joe Vorfe, he was saying it yesterday. He said it. OK, beloved. You know, they say I'm a hallucinator. I'm a liar. I'm a capper. Get it. Yo, they say it. You said it out of control. Hey, they got like a fucking, they got a lying or hallucinating Mount Rushmore. I wasn't on it. No, no, you're on it. Was I? It's me, you, Jim Jones, and who else? They said we're the liars of all time. No, no, I swear to God. It is? Yes. You know how they do this shit. Yeah, the Rushmore's. R.S.B. came, Jones, and somebody else. You went at everybody. Yeah. You still go at everybody.
8:30Nah, nah, nah. Yeah, recently you tampered with a little Kendrick Lamar. You're just like, I'm the best rapper from Boston. I don't think that was it. Can we get the band asked? I'm not going to lie. If somebody asks, Kiss, who's the best rapper from New York, and you don't say yourself, our friendship gets different. Yeah, you ain't. Same role for you. One of the greatest rappers. Nah, I just get money. So I don't give a fuck. You can keep the best rapper from New York. We talking about, all right, so look. But you are definitely top. You're a GOAT. And you should be considered one of the greatest rappers like in that list because you've been spitting.
9:10Nobody can rhyme like you, game. But I'm on the hallucination Mount Rushmore, so I can't. No, no. There ain't no flowers on there. It's just all rock. After the cyber world, you created two games. Yeah. Because you crash out when you want to. You support. You do all that shit. I don't count the cyber. But when you in album mode and you record it, that's a whole nother game that they can't. They can't. It's undeniable. You're crafting the shit. You hear that? He can't never say no. He can't never say no. He can't never say no. He can't never say no. He can't never say no. Cam, we don't give a fuck about what nobody thinks and nobody's saying.
9:48Everybody knows you're one of the nicest niggas ever lived. And you're loyal. All right? So let's just go. I keep... This is the second time I said that. We got the positive guy. Wait, don't worry. We got engagement. Don't blow his tongue. Tell me about my loyalty, too. I don't mean to cut you off, because that's... I was about to tell you about your loyalty. I'm going to say it in the book. You tell me. Tell him about his... No, look, bro, look. When I came in the game, I'll tell y 'all a story that nobody knows except me and him, and then I'll get to you in a minute. Kiss came to the W, bro, before I had an album out.
10:20He came to the W. He picked me up. He took me to Y.O. This is Yonkers for y 'all kids and TV man. We jumped in the Beamer truck. I was so amazed that he had the Beamer truck. I wasn't on like that yet. He had the super Timberlands on, not just the regular Tims from the joint. The ones, Jadakiss's foot is in these tents. You get what I'm saying? No, from a nigga from Compton who was trapping when fuck the frail shit came out. Because when the coke come in, they got to use the scales, then they weigh the whales. I'm in Compton when I heard that. And I was like, nigga, what? Play it back, niggas.
11:00So that Jadakiss came and got me from the W Hotel when I first got on, bro. Took me to Y.O. We was in the studio. we hung out, we went to the bodega, we was all up in the joint. I got to ask one of my favorite lyricists about some shit and kick it with him all day. We didn't send you back to the double. And I, you Mr. Used to be fat and choke. The shit that we, the way you embraced me when I came in, being from here and just giving me love, bro, you had my back. You gave me everything I needed to survive on the East Coast. So that, like, you two niggas and Nas is not here. But you two niggas is part of the reason I got kicked out the group.
11:43I'm not gonna lie. A nigga told me that this is for the world. A nigga told me Ficky had beef with Fat Joe and Kiss and Nas. If I'm lying, I'm fucking flying. I said, this nigga just picked me up like four months ago, five months ago. There's no way I'm turning my back on him. And if we're talking about crack nigga, no way. So I guess I got to leave the group, nigga, about my friendship. Then, years passed, we got older. Heard this on Joe and Jada. That is a fucking fact. That's why I keep yelling, loyal, because you refused to turn, even though that was your guy. Yo, months later, not months later, years later.
12:27You know, we get older. We get early onset dementia and shit. You know what I'm saying? But look, later on, I see Joe and 50 squash it.
12:42Yo, son, look. I'm like, no way they're friends. But this is not the old Joe. Hold on. You in L.A., Joe. This is not the old Joe. This is the Azzy Milan's father. He's changed. He's a different guy. right? So I say, you know what? Crack is burying the hatchet. But I'm at home, and I'm seeing, I'm just like, oh, okay, well, damn. I don't know how I feel about that, but I'm your brother forever. But I don't know. I'm going to give him a chance. You was upset when I scratched you? I wasn't upset. I was just like, huh. Now, guys, these young men don't know, but we have an honorable guest in the house.
13:31and slide that chair right here. We have the positive brother, D1, in the audience, and we're going to be bringing him in and out of this episode. Come here, brother. Hurry up. By the way, he's saying... Hurry up. You don't got no mic. We got to put a mic on the mic right now. It's too late for that. But you can speak into the shirt. The positive brother, if y 'all don't know the positive brother... Hold up. Hold up. Come on. He's like when they do the sign language and shape on the thing. That's what he's doing today. brother with you and your educated positive mind would you say that was positive for hip hop when Fat Joe and 56 squash a beef that could have had beef in my head that's what hip hop needs more of serious and anybody that's a grown man that wants to keep beef going they can do better they can do better bro and they wouldn't want their kids that are in private schools and living in gated communities to be out there involved in some daily beef.
14:31So why would they want their favorite rappers still to be their ops? To where you gotta see somebody on the airplane and pillows getting thrown and people about to get kicked off planes. We are grandfathers at this point. Back to your CD. We're gonna be using you throughout. I'm not gonna lie. I was like, I was like, I got him in the flesh. When you get, when he put it that way, he has a point. yeah that's the point yeah well i was just that was just me just poking fun at you man it's all good but if you know anything about 50 i can say this because that was my that was my and we were in a fucking group that he allowed me to be in and get in early and 50 is a genius he a fucking asshole he's a troll he's a one day me and 50 we're just gonna go behind the thing is like brothers and just, I got to get it in with him just one time to see if he really built like that.
15:28What? I fuck with him. So no, I'm saying kiss. I'm just saying. I feel you. Today, there's no game people, there's no game in 50 anything. And you, you ain't say one thing. You squash. I always say no, no. I squash it because you're a little further than me in the West Coast. And I don't know if you know D1 or you too young or you too old, but we really put in that work. And I knew that I was going to go to jail or I was going to get killed over that beef. I knew it. And everybody else who had beef with him was standing back like, oh, they're going to kill each other when they see each other. And they were like, yo, let me just fall back enough and let Joe run into him because I know what's about to happen.
16:13So I knew I was going to jail. I knew I was going to get killed. The thing I say is the biggest fuck up or the biggest mistake and I know you did it for us the hip hop history is that duo of 50 Cent and the game that was one of the that was Snoop and Trey that was one of the greatest duos you never missed that you never said one day to yourself damn we would have kept making the illest music ever created I wonder if 50 Cent thinks that when he comes on the show I ask him too but I'm asking you Did you ever, I don't want to say regret, but did you ever say, damn, we could have just smashed the whole game?
16:57I never said it once. You know what I said? I said, and I'll tell you what else I said once. I said, I'm not going to, I don't give a fuck who it is. I would have told my mama this. Mom, I'm sorry. Kiss, before I met him, was my nigga. You know, he's my first member of the, you know, if I got to rank the lots on three, like it's Kiss. And then I love Styles. Right. I love him to death. But it's Kiss. Sheik is a fucking wild card. So I like that. It reminds me of myself with voice and like a leader and like, you know, every every group, no matter what the fuck. Now, I've always respected that about you.
17:40You stood on that and you did it right. you here. Yeah, I'm telling you you here. I'm going to look kissing the eye, bro. I sat there, 24 years old, bro, and I could not go against our friendship. I wasn't going to do that, bro. And it wasn't about, no, I didn't care. Number one, we was young, too. I didn't give a fuck. I really appreciated you coming and grabbing, taking me to Wyo and giving me experience so that I could never forget, bro. I couldn't, it happened before the other shit happened. So I could not go against that. You, nigga, you are - You know that I never knew that that was the real reason?
18:13Oh, no, that's the real reason. You just said, me, you know, our relationship, which you had with me, and how you felt about crack, made you say, fuck it, though. Crack, that was it. Crack, you said it. No, no, he said it. I was doing it with some other shit. No, no, no, no, no. You said it on the radio. Fuck, you was. Hey, yo. James said, if you want me to go, I'm not talking. Hey, crack, tell him what I said on crack. You know what I said? You know what I said? Yo, that's him. Yo. Then it's yayo now, because you, I think you crazy game say anything game say anything on the earth Drake, well Drake from Kool and Drake love, they don't love, they worship games, so anytime I think he's tweaking a wallet, not at me to anybody, they be going yo crack you know that man that man got that beef over you and kiss and I be like damn, sometimes I gotta stand next to game, even when you not there you don't even know.
19:09I'm arguing. He ain't got to go down. I'm like, yo, I got to stay there. I got a new somebody. He passed you. He's crazy. He put his nose. I'm crazy. I owe you. I'm for heaven indebted to you for I'm crazy. Crazy. I never knew that. It's kind of like you had to. Don't get it. If you know everything I'm not coming out late. If you don't crash out, you had to get out of the group anyway. I thought you knew, though. Nah, really? Oh, you said it. We talked about it. Loud and clear. No, no, no. You said it to the world. I didn't know that. I said it on Flex. No, you said that's lonely. Nigga. Ew. No, I said it, bro.
19:49When that shootout went down, the last thing he said before the shootout. And we might got a bigger bone to pick with Flex, because he set me up with the question. Mm, wow. The nigga ain't get at me. Flex was like, so, you know, 50 got beef with Kiss. He got beef with Nas. He got beef with Joe. I said, nigga, I cut him off. I was like nah they non-negotiable Shiki heard it and said it went on 105 and said yeah game ain't in the group I didn't feel no way about it shit happened on the way to live hey it happened the same day nigga yeah yeah one day ew on one of the coldest nights in New York I kid you not yo kiss you never knew that frozen yo kiss you ain't know that I knew that my whole life hey kiss look up I didn't know that was look up the night of, look up the night of the shootout.
20:38One of the coldest nights in New York ever. I kid you not. I'm gonna look it up. Joe gave me, like, he still paid for my bill at Carbone, but, like, you owe me. It's Lil Sunzy, right? I take, French Montana come in here today, got a mountain of diamonds on his shit. Man, he didn't get a lot of money. I'm looking at him, I say, yo, save a little beast for later. Like, I took this fucking demo to fuck blacks. Perhaps a little something for the no... I'm looking at all them diamonds and shit. He's marrying the princess. I said, this motherfucker must have forgot. I took his shit up the Hot 97 and made them play his shit.
21:21I'm like, maybe a little diamond? Maybe a live? Is it like... Now one more question on my bucket. I was hated. I love it. Because that shit... Shout out Cool and Dre. I'm a shout out Cool and Dre. It was one of the times I flew to New York. There was one of the times you didn't get me. Capo got me this time. He dropped me over to W. That was my spot. I love it. That was just 50, 4th and Broadway. I felt like a, I just felt like a king there, bro. I walk out the lobby, the Jamba Juice right there, the foot locker right there. I'm the guy. And I'm also 22, nigga. I don't have, there's no Jamba Juice in Compton, by the way, just so you know.
21:59Maybe now, but it wasn't then. So being able to be in New York, walk out of the hotel, get the Jamba juice or gummy bears off the menu. Walk across the street, get you some off, you know, some white Air Force Ones in there. Ma, cop will pick me up, bro. He dropped me off in the W. Interscope sent the van, took me straight to Connecticut. Mike Tyson's old crib. I got OCD, so I noticed that the statue that was in the front of the crib had some cracks in it, but that's a story for another time. I didn't like that. I would have fixed that. But we went there. And maybe years from when Mike had, you know, but no one passed.
22:34Somebody should have fixed. Because at this time, 50 just ain't as big as they're going to hurt. We go and Dre from Cooner Dre told me that 50 was holding something that was going to change the trajectory of what we were doing together. He said, 50 already put, you know, the hook on it. You just got to go slide in the parts that he had for you. And so when 50 say, I wrote, I gave Ganey's records, he did give me those records. What I'm saying to 50 on Joe and Jada or anybody that's listening who thinks that my pen is lazy or some shit, that if 50, those are great records. Love it. And I appreciate 50 for that because he, nigga, he's a jingly native.
23:16You know what I'm saying? It's called a hook for a reason. Hook master. He's great at that. But if 50 don't give me those records, bro, I promise you, as me being who I am, I still am in the same position because, nigga, that's my destiny. That's what I set out for myself. I was going to achieve it by any means necessary. If I had to get fucking Snoop and Nate Dogg to do a hook, nigga, I was to the moon. Because that's how I saw it for myself. Do I appreciate 50 for making it a little bit easier? I have to fucking lose. And this nigga, I'm telling you, bro, this nigga 50, bro, he a different nigga.
23:47But I understand this nigga. I know this nigga. And the shit that he do to everybody else, it don't work on me. So it's like, nigga, we have to be friends, nigga, because you are a piece of shit. And so am I. So we might as well go sit on somebody's line and wait for a nigga to step in us, nigga, because we are fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So that's where we at with. That's a great way to think about it. Think about it. This nigga's the ultimate troll, bro. He don't give a fuck. I think. Pull out the seat. Oh, man. Here we go. Positive brother. This episode. He want. Hold on. Hold on.
24:20Here we go, bro. Hold on. He's like a ton. Yo. Man. Would it be nice to see a tour with 50 Cent and the game together for hip-hop music? Hold on. For general... Hey, yo, he is a potter, but let me tell you. 50 won't do it unless he get 51 % and I got 49. Who gives a fuck? 49 is 100 million. I give a fuck. 100 million. Let me talk to you about that behind the scenes. No, we don't want that tour. We don't want that tour. No, sir. The 50 Cent and the game... Listen, man. Listen, I love y 'all. Y 'all might disagree with my point of view, but I'm going to keep it 100. There's life and death in the power of the tongue.
25:00If they do that tour together, how many records are we going to hear where there's 25 ,000 people every night coming to hear us glorifying, killing each other? Glorifying, selling dope. Even though we've graduated past that stage in our lives. That's the thing. You might be too scientifical. Would you want to see positivity and the rappers coming together So watch this. Hold on. Hold on, but before you even go into that, can I just give you a little... Talk to him. I just want to give you one thing, and then I want you to go right back into your day. After I give you this jewel, I wanted to marinate and saute and blend in what you was about to say.
25:40Because if you do know this is an art form, with today's society, they created drill music where they actually go do something that didn't make a song about it. Right. That's what you should be trying to eliminate. Our art form was people that had to do stuff for their family, this and that. But music in general was art. So I'm sure you like, I don't know what kind of movies you like, but everything you saw didn't happen in that mood. So you can't hold. So you don't watch no movies with violence or nothing like that? Watch this. This is not a movie. The main phrase in hip-hop is that we keep it real.
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26:18If it's a movie, keep it real. Staying healthy. Taking care of kids. Making sure your teeth is right. Making sure your socks is white. And things like that is keeping it real. So if you got the KKK, the Georgia version, and then the Tennessee chapter, and then the Texas chapter, and if they say, yo, we about to go on tour together and celebrate how good we've been hating black people all these years, we would be up in arms. We'd be ready to ride on. Why? Because of what they represent. Right? So... Now, I should have told you you didn't know what was happening. Put a little fentanyl on the dope with this episode.
27:00Just a little fentanyl on the dope. You don't need the fentanyl. What? Because he's giving us the pure... No, he's because of... Oh, yeah, it is pure. Yeah, listen, listen, listen. He's coming with the... Y 'all don't want to joke. I didn't hear you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't let him step on it. Watch this. Step on the dope. Hey.
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30:16We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide. range of podcasts around there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
30:56But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy. Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
31:36Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a perimenopausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that mess was going to be. Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive.
32:13Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How hard can it be getting naked at 50 with the new guy? That one's kind of hard. Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter and dive into it unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Step on the door. If gang would have got killed.
32:49I used to intern for Jimmy Hensley when I was in college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch this. I got to give you a flag. Hey, you can give me a flag? Positive person in the world. You can give me a flag? Yeah, we don't say that. Use another example. All right, all right. What do you say? If gang really got killed. Watch this. Lord forbid, if any of y 'all brothers lose y 'all lives, the rap gang would be crying. Why do we cry when rappers die? But we love when they glorify murder when they're alive. Why do we say that we love one another, then turn around and backstab our brother? Why do we say that we cherish our sisters, then disrespect them and call them all?
33:28That's my whole thing is, it's like a walking contradiction in the game. We say it's this unity and we love each other, but then it's this music. The problem is, I'm going to get to these seats. Hold on, no, no, no. You know the world. You know the world. You know the world. You know the world. You know the world. You know the world. You know the world. Right. That's the world we live in. It is. If you know that, if you have your way, right? Right. And there's nothing for positivity rap. Right. How far you think that'll go? Let's call it reality rap, not positivity rap. Because I rap about, I rap about murder.
34:00I rap about drugs. What's going on? Murder, drugs, just so, so. You can't say, hold on, you just, there's a double, there's a double. It ain't a double. You can't. Reality. Game, you're going to appreciate this. Look on the news. is killing. No, no, no, no. Listen, listen, listen. It's bombing. Listen, we love you. So somebody has to... All right. Because we're not there yet. Okay. Right? You coming straight with the... You walking with Jesus through the... This nigga D1's so positive, he's holding the red flag and kissed the whip. So you know who you... Bro, no, this is my guy. I just wanted to voice consciousness.
34:42Serious question. Serious question. It's a dream come true to be up here with y 'all. You here, brother. I used to intern for Jimmy Henchman when I was in college, when he was managing gang, right? Top five in my book. You know what I mean? We didn't talk behind the scenes in New Orleans. You show me love, all this. Listen, can everybody not understand that it's a difference between narration and glorification? So talk about what you saw in Y.O. Talk about them horror stories of Compton. For sure, talk about it. Narrate your life. I got to talk about New Orleans and what I saw. But when we glorify it and make it sound cool, and that little sixth grader sitting in the crowd, they don't have discernment to know the difference between he telling his story, but now he making it sound like it's good to go kill somebody.
35:24And we saw a lot of glorification coming up. Glorification of all the negativity. I was a hot boys fan. The hot boys taught me how to run a train on females. How the, how the military people told me, thank you when they came back from Iraq and Afghanistan who keep us and told me, thank you. I listen to your music. You know, you know the guy who put the join in, Bin Laden was listening to Red Nation. You know the lyrics to Red Nation? I know the lyrics. I know the lyrics. I know your catalog. I know the lyrics. All right, back over there. Hey, yo, it's Biscuits. Come on. Put some cut on this thing.
36:10He's coming too. Like, I'm trying to make him a point of this. He's giving his true opinion. Yeah, that's too much. Hey, I love D1, though. I love him, too. I got him on the fucking biggest. This is the biggest episode ever. I got him on here. And you know how he got him on here? Yo, I could have ignored you, right? Hey. I'm letting you talk this shit. Hey. Hey, but if you were to. Your voice is conscious. I ain't going to lie. Nobody does that. That's why we number one. If you would have ignored him, he would have told you about that time I didn't ignore him. And then I vibed with him. And then I did a song with him.
36:46So it's like, you know, you can't ignore a guy like that anyway. He got, he on a different path, man. It's just, D1 is, if you don't, if y 'all don't know, you know how I judge podcasts now? About the money y 'all put in y 'all cameras, y 'all niggas rich. Yeah. But D1, D1 on his way, man. Y 'all getting a lot of money just doing this thing. You know, we on Netflix, right? Of course you are. Why would you be? Don't even let him talk. don't even let him talk don't even let him talk cause this guy there's too many opinions listen to me you're getting great you got great sets you in the soul house in LA this is great okay but you know we on Netflix now can I ask y 'all both cool questions man I know violence hood know why yo Compton Bronx know none of that cause I just after he left and you just said what we on.
37:39I looked at y 'all two. These are my friends. Y 'all my brothers, too. I changed my whole career because of the nicks. Literally. My whole path. I jumped off of my brothers. So, you was on before me. He was on before you, right? Yeah. Who did you look up to before you got on? And then you. Same question. Because I'm sitting here with two niggas that I rocked with and I go back to Fat Joe when Pun got out and yeah and you know a lot of people had a different interpretations i was in compton but i know the whole story and i also know fat joe so i know what pun into you and what that friendship was but i wasn't on when you got one i wasn't on when you got on but i know when i got one nigga this is why i near 50 but it is because i listened to you before i mean sometimes you crash out So anytime anybody got to say anything with comparisons with me and you, I just tell them, did you ever hear him say, you know, only content nigga with a Yonkish flow?
38:45That right there for me, I never got a rebuttal. 50 Cent gave you one of those too, right? The only live niggas, they coming from Yonkish. Yeah, so that's what made that kind of weird to me. But, you know, whatever is whatever. What are you doing? It's a boss? No. No, I'm saying with fifth. After he said that, then you know he's crazy. But when game said that, and 100 bars is running, that solidified his understanding of what. There's one question I've been dying to ask, game that's not controversy, not nothing, not nothing. L.A. has brought too much to the game. but when I go to LA party they play LA sounding music so everybody start dancing like this it's different let me get that off I don't know if you crib walk or the blood walk and I want to know which one it is because they're going to have questions for me you know if I'm in a gang I'm in the blood I'm going to get up with family you know that you know what the fuck they doing nigga I'm going to get six calls You see Serena Williams quit walking in the fucking Super Bowl?
39:59What I'm trying to say is LA got their own sound. They got their own flaws from anywhere. From MCA, from fucking Quick. They always had their own flow. And Game is the only guy that's a Compton and make New York music. I know it's LA music It's not the music He makes LA music I never understood How he knew that like that You're the only one And he just told you he was listening to I told you bro I'm not gonna lie man I've been a you know How do you Can I explain something I want to paint the fucking picture It's a story The man's in Cogden gang banging niggas just like yo hey where's Todd like they doing all that shit they listening to all that backyard booty and the man come with the New York flow the New York music like I don't know how you did that that's what I'm trying to explain like where did it come from I'm gonna walk you down real quick it's three elements to this to the three three elements to the answer to your question number one is um 60 minutes of funk with phone flex off rep right i every phone flex tape i even emailed my demo to flex on a tape he got it flex wrote me back in the mail before internet there's no internet he wrote me back he said if you ever in new york come see me this is why to this day if i hit i can call flex right now.
41:49I guarantee we pick up. And he'll counteract the story. That shit right there, right? It was pun song, punish me. This is no lie. And when I do, when we, when me and you get to doing our shit like this, they say we lying. When pun got out and he put the album out and everybody was on, I'm not a player, I just crush a lot. I was on punish me. I was the luckiest man on nerve. My been just worth anything. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I was on. And I was on Digging in the Crates, but the album that changed my life, two of them, right, is Illmatic. Illmatic taught me 16s and 8s. And then We Are the Streets, let me know that, nigga, I really can do this shit for real.
42:38All I gotta do is be myself and figure out how to beat fuck the frail shit. So that, and I'm not even lying when I say it's two motherfucking bars in my life, right? Fuck the frail shit. I'll say it to anybody. Fuck the frail shit, because when a coat come in, they got to use the scales that they wear the whales with. Incredible. Right? The other one is Pops knew exactly what he did when he made me try to get a nut, and he got a nut. What? Three, if I'm doing a top five, three is all my G's moving silence like LaZan. Right? And I don't even ain't got to do four and five because you understand that the way that I studied hip-hop was in a mean notebook, nigga, with the silver rings with a pen.
43:24I am really a student. So when niggas get to playing with my legacy because I'm a funny nigga and I troll niggas and all that, I'll tell you. Every nigga got their own fans. Kiss got his own fans. Crack got his own fans. I see you on tape beating the shit out that nigga that came down. We just got positive with this. Oh, I'm sorry. Yo, D1. Come in, man. Come in, man. Hold on, because we can't have... Hey, yo, D1, let me talk to you. D1, we can't have our hip-hop ghosts bringing up old beasts to start a trigger shit. Nah, what we doing? We in Los Angeles too, D1. Man, he a goat. That's what I'm saying.
44:01Joe, what's wrong with you, bro? Right here, D1. Come on, man. What's wrong with you, Joe? Come on. Yo, hey, D1, we too late in the game. Hey, talk to him. It's only hip-hop. You don't see country stars talking about, Well, Garth Brooks, remember back in the day when you was beating the crap out of Rod Stewart on camera? Well, we got a goat, a legend. I'm saying you don't see... This is the best choice on the planet Earth. I'm serious. I want these guys. Garth Brooks beat up Tim McGraw. Hey, yo, and I just saw... You know I'm a visual nigga, you know? So I seen Garth Brooks break a Heineken on the bar and then come at Rod Stewart with the jagged edge.
44:42to the shit. It's only us, bro. The closest you're going to get is Jelly Roll at SummerSlam or some shit. I was dead. Yeah, well, you know you got to know Jelly Roll before he slimmed down. Yeah, he was different. Yeah, Jelly Roll was around to me, man. D1, thanks for your help. Jelly Roll got to switch his hands to the guy. Hey, no. Yo, D1, man, I love this shit right here. Fuck that. Yeah, man. Hey, but no, he also real shit. He had that coming. It was, it's all good when you, if you want to have, if you want to go, you want to do lyrical warfare. I'm with all that, right? Like, when we see each other, we don't got to do that if it's just rap.
45:18But when you bring my kids in it, you must want to exit Earth. You must want to die. You don't, bro, we ain't even at the end of my story. And plus, D1 killed me like 10 minutes ago. So anyway, if it's about my kids, bro, I'm coming to see you every single time. I don't play with them, bro. This guy fucking with a man, his wife, fucking with his kids. Yeah. that just black them out. At this point, you're just like, oh, really? You see, now, D1, I want to say a little negativity. I want you... You got to ask D1 when D1 is... God. This is the strangest shit I'm going to say. God, if you fucking with me, talking about me, bothering me, doing all this, this, this, somewhere, I don't know if it's today, tomorrow, 10 years, he gonna give you to me in a gift I could be in a home depot I could be in an old senior citizen's home a motherfucker gonna walk up on the walk and I'm gonna be like now Bopo you had this coming you had this coming because I know so when I see somebody just go I just be like alright don't worry don't worry he gonna bring you to me and I ain't talking about devil cause I ain't got nothing negative about God bring him to me someday or another and a Dunkin Donuts hey fellas, how we doing here?
46:41What's going on, buddy, with all that shit you've been talking? It just happens every time. Tennis, wherever. Let me holler at you. The middle of Madison Square Garden. That's all right. This is Square Garden. Let me tell you something. Middle of the... It's the game show. I used the bathroom and he drank toilet water in the middle of Madison Square Garden. Boom! I can't do that. the guy yeah I can't do that because the guy he's a good guy now you know this positive commercial break this positive commercial break goes out to all those kids Joe robbed in that gym I robbed all of them all 70 of them I'm the only nigga I'm the only nigga watching this yeah yeah you can get it they helped me with the stuff I get another wig button Give him the strong stuff.
47:39I love this, J. Y 'all, it's what you want me to do. Listen, D1, stay positive. There's pussy niggas and there's real niggas. I'm sorry if you can't fathom that because you used to get smacked on the back of your neck and keep it moving. Yeah. There's guys out there that were maniacs that, yeah, crack, you did it, crack. You know what's up. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is what it is. I was too wild. I used to get bullied. So this is how it starts. was. I used to get bullied. I used to jump me. Let me tell you this. Right? Do you know how hard it is to know, to be in type? This is how old it is. Typewriting class, look out the window with every girl in the classroom saying, Joey, they're waiting for you at 3 o 'clock.
48:27You look out the window, they're going, you ever had that? No. Oh, I did. Every fucking day. Hey, I got a story. I understand what I'm saying. I'm going to let them finish. I got a story. Yo, gang, gang, save the story. I went to school. I never dropped out. I went there and got my ass whooped every single day. I had hair that would pull my hair. They'll beat the shit out. Did that traumatize you? Yeah, I'm traumatized now. Hey, yo. Do it. I don't give a fuck about that. Hey, I got a story, yo. I'm traumatized. I got one of them on Louisville. And then that's what turned me into. So you know what happened?
49:08They caught my man. He was my best friend in junior high school. It's in my book, Book Jose. And they caught my best friend. My mother fed him spice ham and cheese sandwiches every lunchtime. Quarter water. And they said, yo, why you with this guy? Because I was a joke. You ever been a joke where they pick on you for every day? You ever been a joke where, all right, we want to beat anybody? Or how about you want to join the crew and act like you're tough? Let's just beat up the fat nigga over here. I got my ass whipped every day. There is no Thanksgiving picture without an eye jammy, bloody nose, a lick.
49:47They was beating the brakes off me every week. Hey, yo, kiss me looking at you like he not your co-hunt. He got them people out there. Is it interesting to me? I don't know where he's going. He got the people out there thinking it's cat. I don't know what happened. He had a bone. He's having a moment. Yo, bro. Let me tell you something. My man, Leonard. Let him finish. Who was my best friend. You got to cut him off. Who I would play Pac-Man with every day. They came to him and they said, yo, if you don't jump him with us, we're going to jump you. And guess what? My best friend, Leonard, jumped me with them niggas.
50:25Leonard was ass. Fuck him. But you know what? He would have still been in G. Hey, Leonard would have still been in G, Yoder, for sure. yeah yeah yeah yeah anyway he he's loyal so I had no choice I just I turned my heart turned black unfortunately to your thing every more important person a more crazy person that I would beat up or rob or something people thought I was ill that's crack TS yo who's that yo that's some big this this that nigga I was viral before internet, TV, or any. But I was viral. The whole entire Bronx knew in my age group there's a fat Spanish kid not to be fucked with on any level.
51:17He not playing. But that was because that forced me to do that. When did you make the transition from getting the brakes meat off you? Did you start getting the brakes? Leonard forced me. I cried. Did you still have that hair? the book Jose? Was the hair there when you transitioned? I'm about to go to Turkey. I ain't gonna lie because that was some smooth Vidal Sassoon shit on the front of the book. I had hair. I got the book. They thought I was lying. I got the book. I'm telling my hair like the Beatles and they thought I was lying. I'm like, yo, I had hair. Like, you got me fucked up. I had hair.
51:51And so thank God we had a picture that I had hair. Yeah. Right?
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52:45Chicago won't stop talking. Our improved network backs it up. AT &T, connecting changes everything. AT &T Fiber, limited availability in select areas, top-rated and fastest internet. AT &T Fiber, based on analysis by Euclid's because intelligence data 2H 2025. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.
53:19So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
53:58Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam?
54:31It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luka and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luka and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard Julius Randle.
55:05And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quinton Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
55:37It's so game, man. My brother. You into everything. You know, one day I'm in Africa, right? No, no, I'm not going to say nothing. Go and go. You know how we got out of there. You can say it. Okay. We got it. I say it. Hey, yo. We in Africa. This ain't going to be the longest one of his. There's a guy there. I got it. Everybody. Hey, yo. I got an answer for that. I love you. Hey, yo. Everybody in Africa, in this part of Africa, knows there's a guy there. He booked you. He sent you half a mil up front for one show. You feel like I hit the jackpot. That's right. $500 ,000. All I got to do is go do fuck the trail shit.
56:21I get to Africa. They pick me up in the benzes like Mandela. Am I lying? In the middle of Africa. Bro, tough roads. They the only ones with Beckleys. Bro, I got 10 shots in the shoulder to go to Africa. Me too. Don't drink the water, but you can eat the pussy. Yeah. They pick me up in 10 benzes like Mandela. I'm sliding through the Congo. Niggas women with chicken on their head, chickens on their head, fucking fruit balls. I'm like, nigga, this really Africa. This is my first. That's the real Africa. That's the real Africa. That's not the fake Africa. These niggas lock in the van like, nigga, if the street fighter stole your money, nigga.
56:57We go to the hotel. We get to the five-star hotel. That's a great hotel. Great hotel. Let me tell you what wasn't great about it. Out the window, there's millions of people homeless in the street. This is what wasn't great about the hotel. You couldn't shower in the hotel unless you had a bottle of water. Five star. There's a guy there. His name is Riquinho. They call him Casablanca. Speak on it, guys. Casablanca is Spanish. I didn't know at the time. I knew later it mean White House. So this is the president of the hood. He come to the hotel. He got 19 million soldiers with him. They got hyenas on the chain, nigga.
57:32Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm from Compton. I got, we got pit bulls. We ain't got hyenas. Hey, bro, they got hyenas on the chain. Here I go. I'm about to earn my spot on the Hallucination Mountain. You're here. That's right. It's a spit hanging from the hyena. This is real great. Now, you know, they don't know. It's a piece of spit hanging from the hyena mouth. It never hit the ground. It's between his tooth and limbo. It's hanging. He come to me after the show. I just, nigga, I smoke it. I'm talking about 10 ,000 African homies. they, when I come on stage the people love us when I come on stage they're like, yeah!
58:16it's like you and Tupac for me on the West Coast it's you and Tupac nigga a million niggas say this I'm feeling like, nigga put me with Tupac nigga give me the Jawa juice nigga, cause this nigga, he love me I'm the king this nigga come to me and said we need to get you to the hotel you have show tomorrow I said take my Chrome hearts off I said a show tomorrow I had my baby mama and my little son baby from the documentary they on their way to London cause I'm about to take this 500 ,000 to London we buy for Liz I did how we do I did five songs off the documentary them niggas went crazy I went back I'm going back to the van making for 500 ,000 100 ,000 per song he said you got to do a show tomorrow right I said ah it was one show.
59:09He said, no, five show. Now you're playing, right? Because I think that you think I'm Chingy. No disrespect to Chingy. What I mean? Hey, yo, I'm not going to lie. I love Chingy. I love Chingy too. Hey, yo, what I mean is what I mean, yo, listen. What I mean is, you know how niggas try to play Chingy like he wasn't the right there nigga. Chingy was hot. Chingy was almost hot as Nelly when I came in. So when I say Chingy, I don't mean no disrespecting Chingy. We understand. He been getting mad at niggas lately. Chingy been out. He been out. No, he's my guy. I love Chingy. I was bucking Chingy. And he had to join me.
59:53Tyrese, keep holding me back. That shit was fire. It's almost equivalent to Nelly and Kelly Rowan, but that's another time. But this nigga told me I'm going to do five more shows for the 500. So I said, Damn. So he telling you you got five more. Five more, bro. For the bread he already sent you. My kids, he's, oh, tell me if I'm lying. He's sending you the bread before you leave, before you leave. Before you leave, that money's in. The bread is in the bank account before you leave. Oh, yes, bro. All right, now go ahead. You know how many artists didn't go and rob them for a million? Oh, they did.
1:00:25I'm the nigga who got verbally abused for the whole game of hip hop. You want the positivity? I'm in the whole... Fuck Joe. Missy Elliott. I fuck her. Hey. This one, that one, he's trying to get me to put everybody on the phone. Chris Brown, phone, they sell him a million dollars. He don't come. He fucked me. With a hundred niggas with machine guns behind him, I'm like. No cap on the machine guns, no nothing. I'm stuck in the effort. Let me hear this after that. Crack, I come down. Look, I get down. I'm like 500 in the bank, 500. I'm coming down my hotel. Oh, yo, by the way, nigga, I'm on the 59 ,000 floor, nigga, up there.
1:01:05That's how he lay it out. Ashanti took the money, didn't show up even my sister. Good for her. I come down to the hotel. I see my cousin by the elevator. Bro, he got the... He doing this. No, niggas got the scary face. Bro, I come down. I had a security as far as this feeling. That nigga end up looking like a midget. Everybody got quiet out there. You in Africa. Everybody is at the... Oh, this nigga was this small. He was this big. His name was Biff. That nigga started looking like this. He got the cry face. Yo, break the face like this. Like, yo, Biff. They flew with you? Yes. I broke my niggas with me.
1:01:50This is early. This is Dr. Zabby today. I look at every... It's, nigga, my fucking... My whole... This one I'm traveling with 34 years. DMX got kidnapped out there, by the way. Oh, yeah. All my niggas over here, like, I can't see what they see. I'll come off the elevator. It's behind me. I don't look behind me. I look at my face. Everybody like... I'm like... They like... I look behind me, bro. It's 50 niggas with the African units. Different kind of pressure. Everybody got a machine gun bigger than that. No, no. Yeah. Well, fuck the machine gun. Fuck the machine guns. I see that one coyote, the one that came and picked me up from the airport.
1:02:33the same spit still hanging same spot i said that's how i know it's serious it's the same coyote you almost gave the nigga name look he told me five shows so i said to myself i'm not doing that i'm not doing it i am i'm game and i said nigga we in africa i said you know what i got on this nigga boys in the hood colors and minister society you know they watch the movies i'm from that So, nigga, I turned around for a second. Away from him. My nigga is my cousin Damo for sure. He looked at me. He was like, what you going to do? I said, I turned around and nigga. I said, hey, nigga, I ain't doing no shows, blood.
1:03:14I said, you pay me for one show. He said, I pay you for five. I said, you pay me for one. I said, this nigga's not moved by my aunt and shit. He look like Muhammad Ali, too. He's like a handsome Muhammad Ali. He look like the young mama. He's not cap. he ain't got no white in his eyes so I tell this nigga like you I said nigga I said you know where I'm from you know how I get it I'm not doing the show I got my kid's mother and my child finding London he wasn't moved yet kiss he didn't give a fuck about my baby so I said I said after I come from London I come back and do the other four shows cause I had to get in the go shit he said okay You come back.
1:03:56Four days, you do the show. Right? I said, all right. I called my kid's mom. She's like, yeah, we just landed in Heathrow. I said, OK, I'll meet y 'all there. He took us to the airport. He got us in. He said, don't lie to me. And you know what he said after that? I don't know what he said. I kidnapped DMX. I don't care. I said, you kidnapped X. That's one of the illest hood niggas ever. It's only one nigga. It's only one nigga. He kidnapped X Kiss. I'm out of here. Kiss. Hey, yo, Kiss. He kidnapped. I'm getting the fuck out of here. Hey, Kiss. He kidnapped. Hey, Kiss. He kidnapped. Hey, yo. The US Embassy.
1:04:39X had to run to the end. X escaped. No, I just pulled up in the parking lot because they there. They know you kidnapped. So while you eating breakfast, there's like white dudes standing over there going, OK. You're OK. Blinks white. Do you know who you with? Buzz? Yeah, they give you a card and was like, yo, you call me. We'll come to Garage, get you out of here in the place. Like, you're kidnapped. Buzz the card. No, Buzz, I always with that nigga. Buzz? You think you great? We all know. Buzz? We know Buzz the rhymes. I had to call him down. He was like, fuck that, crack this. I said, bro, there's no guns.
1:05:16Where you going to let go? Where you going to let go? There's nothing to do. You know Buzz. He with all the shit. There's nothing to do, Buzz. Bus went out the back and got on. I don't know who Bus called or who y 'all called. Y 'all got a private jet out there. But you want to know who's the only guy. I got to keep it real. You want to know. No, he just. Hey, bro. Pause. I ain't going to lie. He gets off on kidnapping. He gets off on. I paid a lot of money to get the biggest niggas here from America. Now you can't be. Hey, crack. This nigga. That's his shit. Hey, we now. Now. Hey, fast forward.
1:05:5215 years. 15 years. Cracks is over there living his life. You're living your life. I'm living mine. Buster and Nas. They're living their life, right? A news, a thing hit my shit. It say, Casablanca arrested. That's the first time I was like, he walked into Sunday. Yo, get this nigga out of here. The nigga is unfair. First time, yo, I don't ever shit for a nigga. Let me tell you what what he used to do to me, right? Because I was really kidnapped for like two, three weeks. I made the most money I ever made in my life. I can't lie. You got him the paper. He just sending a... Oh, he's nice, bro. He's bread is in us.
1:06:33Oh, he's sending. He the nigga I told you that opened the trunk with like$50 million and gave me$50 ,000 and looked like it was a toothpick. He had the most money. I wanted to kill him and steal the money I couldn't get out of Africa with it. I was like, there's no way. This is the one time I literally... God forgive me D1 I throw the killing like I said yo I should stab this shit out of this nigga and take this trunk where you going though but I'm not going nowhere with all this dick so I go like it was too much money so I go like this you know what he did to me your money's no no your money's falling god damn I must be talking some bullshit let me tell you something the man go and say you know we can't be making something no no yo but he looking at me and he just started laughing cause he's Portuguese almost like Spanish He used to talk to me in Portuguese.
1:07:22And he started laughing. I looked, he says, he tells me in Spanish, I know you're not pussy, Carter, Gina. You just can't do nothing. That nigga was telling me, it's that. I know you're not pussy, Carter, Gina. I could tackle. He was threatening me the same way. He said, nigga had the nerve, right? All these years later, Uncle Dan is on FaceTime with a nigga. He turned around and he go, yo, Joe, he looking for you. He turned around and he go, yo, Joe, he looking for you. He turned around and he's like, yo. He found you. On FaceTime, he said, Come out of here. I see you're my man. Fuck out of here.
1:07:57Fuck out of here, nigga. Like, this ain't that. That ain't this, nigga. I'm not going out. I don't need your money like that. I tell you no lie. Every time a nigga, you know Fred Frenchy. Mm-hmm. Frenchy just hit me. We got$300 ,000 for you after. I said, how far is it from Rikino? Yeah, not in Rikino. Is it close? Gotta be far. Because Africa big. I'm going to tell you one person because I keep forgetting. Akon. He tried it with Akon. Senegal came in there. Tried it with Akon. The shit he did. They got Akon out of there? Nigga said that Senegal army came in there on them fucking war planes and got fucking Akon out of there.
1:08:40He kidnapped DMX. I know Nas' team said cat last time I said it. Kidnapped Nas' manager. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Hold on. I'm here now. Your friend. Was it Ant? Kidnapped one of his men. Was it Ant? He kidnapped, I don't know which one, but it was all over the newspapers and Ant was with me. Oh, so he kidnapped me? He was part of the shit. Guys that got out of there early. Ant was with me. Well, they said cat. You know how bad, Joe? They put me into my muscle. I said that story. How you reseal it? How you reseal it, Kat? Ant got kidnapped too. So I said that in one of these episodes And they said yo cap Joe That didn't really I said alright cool Let me explain some of you They couldn't play that shit with Acon Senegal came up in there They send the Corpus Navy SEALs up in there They said that nigga Acon diddy bopped out that shit Like You see what the hip hop do though Sometimes the bullshit gets you out of shit You see How you supposed to be regular with that What you supposed to do right there, D?
1:09:47I'm just saying. I'm not. Hey, hey, hey. Oh, oh, oh. High blood pressure was through the roof. The monitor was coming off. I'm not saying don't go get your bread. But if the nigga named Ricanio or Casablanca, talk to your team first. No, no. Y 'all already told me. I did. There's some people. There's some people. I'm going to be honest. I just said it. The positive thing is I made the most money I ever made in my life for that stress. I'm not going to lie to you. If you're into money, just take an extra bag of clothes and just know you're staying two to three weeks. Everybody's got home, but it's going to be a fight.
1:10:28It's not where you think you're going. Don't try to Tupac birdie a butter rim shit I did. He didn't flinch. Now, let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. Just to put it in perspective. Equatorial Guinea, South Africa, Nigeria, Garbon, so many beautiful places. Morocco and Africa, there's places that you go and it's so fucking beautiful. It's so fucking Cape Verde. There's so many places that you go. Angola, too. I love the people of Angola. We just got, we had a fucking time. By the way, if you Google this guy, he was the leader of the, when they had the war, he's the leader of one of those civil...
1:11:11This nigga was fighting the army. He killed like 10 ,000 niggas. Look, and I ain't gonna lie, word is, the hyena still got the food. Put me on the hallucination. Put me on the rock, roll the hallucination. Yo, let me tell you something. I'm in Africa. By the way, I'm in Africa. I love it. And y 'all don't understand Africa. I've been to every section of Africa, Somalia, Kenba, Kenya, Zimbabwe. Let me tell you, though. The fucking airplane is a great airplane, but the airplane's like a regular bus or a cab. The shit stopped. And every phone... It stopped. Hold up. I'm about to tell him something.
1:11:58I won't say who. Yes. Listen. The airplane stopped every half an hour like you're going somewhere. Hey, bro. You can stop like a bus. Like this. Hey, yo, Keith. You can't over here. Hey, Keith. Hey, yo. You know how I... Hey, hold on. Hey, crack. Crack. Hold on. Hey, crack. Hey, crack. Hold on. I've been there. Hey, crack. I lit his tip. Let me finish. Hey, yo. Wait. Let me finish. I'm on. Hey, yo. Keith, look. Usually it's just you and him and some cool guy. I'm here to vouch. nigga the shit stopped like a transit like a subway okay we here one time it stopped hold up one time it stopped and I bored on I'm so glad my hallucination one time I stopped what happened I bored on in the middle of the nowhere in Africa and there's game with a very famous chick on the plane in the middle of Africa while the plane is stopping.
1:13:03I'm like, yo, game, what's up? Yeah, I heard you turning yourself into jail next week. Yo, what's up, crack? We talked on the Airbus. Airbus. Airbus. That shit was stopping like this. I said, all right, game. He was like, yo, just be strong, man. The nigga was telling, hey, yo, crack, you know crack story's long-winded, bro. He right here I see. Nigga, the motherfucker stopped. The nigga tell me, yo, we about to we gonna, I'm gonna tell you the rest when we take back off. That's how many times it happened, bro. And that's why when I read the book of Jose, I was like, ah, nigga, I don't need the book.
1:13:36It's just coffee table shit now because I know the stories, nigga. We talk forever. I love you, brother. Yo, listen. This is the Joe and Jay, the show the biggest in the land where we give everybody an opportunity to speak their true opinion. This is the game. Hold on. on, but hold up. Let me tell you something. Yo, get off the way for a second. Let me tell you something. You don't know me. You think you know me. I'm more conscious and more revolutionary than you ever thought in your life. Okay? I'm from a place they call God'sville where they used to sit out there and build all the time. You want the Latino?
1:14:17The black Latinos used to play the Congos from Africa. I'm from a place where Any other podcast like this would be terrified to get your views and opinion in the middle of the show. Not here, nigga. We ain't ducking the face. We're welcome. We're open arms. We don't duck the face. Shout out to our brother D1. God damn. Ain't some noise. He's D1. I know. Because I always like to hit my brothers with a game fact. You know, Compton was called Comptonville. Comptonville. Before Comptonville was called Gibsonville. So if y 'all ever hear me say Gibsonville, you know I'm talking about Conn. Let me just get one more question, because we got to go.
1:14:59But what was the shit you trying to say about Kendrick Lamar? You're the only rapper from Conn, from this, this, that. You the new flex. You the new flex. I'm the new flex. Nah, nah, all bullshit aside. But what is it? Are you trying to bait him into a battle? This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. If you watch Kobe Bryant, right, talk about Michael Jordan. And I'm just giving you an analogy. I've seen it. Kobe is never going to say that Michael Jordan better than me. He's going to say that he better than me, but in the Kobe way. But no man with children and a woman at home is going to say another man is better than you at shit.
1:15:40I'm pretty sure Jesus wasn't walking around like, nah, he's a better carpenter than me. Hey, that's this guy. No. So I'm saying, I got the utmost love for Kendrick. He just broke Jay-Z Grammy record. That is, for us, that's cool shit. Legendary. That's great for him. Right? And in my studio, bro, in my recording booth, I got the Book of Holes. I also have your Book of Holes. Yeah, come on, niggas. What came first? The chicken and the egg. We'll get to that later. What I'm saying is, I'm from Compton. I drove by Kendrick when I got on. Around the time that Kiss picked me up and I came back to LAX.
1:16:25Kendrick seen me in Compton like I've seen niggas before me driving through the hood with the boomer sister with the gold chains. He has a song called Black Boy Fly. If you've never heard it, you should go listen to it. So he can tell you in his own words who he saw. so it wasn't motherfuckers out here they'll spin it how they want bold print or whatever you know we in the clip era they'll clip it and make it spin it how they want I've got respect for Kendrick and everything he's doing right the reason there's any type of little rift between me and Dot or Top or if there is if you thought there were it's because Drake is my friend right and again I am putting the fucking there's a fork in the row where I got to choose between my friend.
1:17:14Let me tell you something. This whole time. All right. So look, I'm going to tell you like this. Can we all agree that Drake is pretty fucking huge? He's my friend. I got him on speed now. If I call him and tell him that Cali, Justice of Harlem want to come to the concert, he say, send him at six. I'm going to be right there to receive him. You know I love him like I love you. We're going to put him where they need to be. Your kids are going to see everything that they want to see. Do they need over your gear? Let me get that plug.
1:17:49So I'm saying, I can't, so I'm saying, if they go to war, then I got to sit back like a fan of two people, and I just got to watch it like everybody else. I do understand that, but let me tell you, this whole time we've been recording, the hyena shit still ain't touched the floor. Nah, this is Joe and Jada. This shit is raw podcast. Make some noise for our guests get back. This shit. Hey, yo. You feel me? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. This is the only episode that's 2B continued. Because we got so much shit to talk about. Yeah. Hey, yo. Come back. Yo, this the only. This is the 2B. This is the only episode where Kissa lets you take his shot.
1:18:29You feel me? This is crazy. This nigga's drinking some shit. Thanks so much. That's for everybody. Can't cut the L.A. In the middle, we got to take some flicks.
1:18:45Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow Hey Jonas and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy.
1:19:18Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs.
1:19:52We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season, and I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was fine. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that, game seven, Marquis coming to you, he's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live. This is David Eagleman with the Inner Cosmos podcast. And for Mental Health Awareness Month, we'll talk with singer-songwriter Jewel about anxiety.
1:20:28I started living in my car and then my car got stolen. I was having panic attacks. I was agoraphobic. This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course. Listen to Inner Cosmos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Compton legend The Game in one of the biggest episodes of Joe and Jada to date. They dig into the story behind Game's falling out with 50 Cent due to his loyalty to Joe, Jada, and Nas, who had all been involved in beefs with 50. The Game also breaks down the making of "Hate It Or Love It," why Jada and The Lox were such an inspiration to him despite living on opposite coasts, what he meant when he name-dropped Kendrick Lamar on his latest mixtape Gangsta Grillz: E.M.N.T – The Credits, and why he could only sit back and watch the beef between Kendrick and Drake like the rest of us.
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