The Real Report - Bonnie Godiva breaksdown battle rap politics, Wild 'N Out problems, Doechii being on Kendrick's level, and top 5 battle rappers

27 May 2026 · 1 h 8 min · 27 chapters

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In short

Bonnie Godiva and Yonkers discuss battle rap politics and economics, the shift from YouTube to Caffeine/other platforms, how judging and “entertainment over winning” changed battles, and how marketing/visibility affects careers. They also cover Bonnie’s experience on Wild ’N Out, including scheduling conflicts and a racist altercation with a staff scheduler, plus her top battle-rapper lists.

Guests (backgrounds)

Bonnie Godiva is a prominent female battle rapper, claiming the highest-viewed female in battle rap and describing herself as a high-output YouTube-era “YouTube baby.” Yonka (Yonkers) is introduced as a New York battle-rap legend/female rapper host/guest.

Key claims

Battle rap’s money and power shifted after Caffeine, raising typical battle prices (e.g., $10k to $50k) and causing platform fragmentation when YouTube declined. Crowds used to decide more; tournaments/judging changed incentives. Bonnie says she doesn’t argue offstage; stage disrespect is a stress release, and she avoids targeting kids/children. She argues battle rappers can transition to mainstream music by learning how to generate attention.

Notable examples

Lux vs Calico (funeral/caskey theatrics), Murder Mook/Loaded Lux era price inflation, Daylight’s viral performance style, Official punching Coffee after child-related comments, and Bonnie’s Wild ’N Out “Who Wants to Wild ’N Out?” win (she says she beat ~900+ others; she ultimately did 5 episodes).

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Chapters

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The State of Battle Rap

3:20 to 4:48

Discuss the evolving landscape of battle rap and its financial implications.

“We gonna talk about what's going on with battle rap.”

Caffeine Era vs. YouTube Era

4:48 to 6:40

Explore the impact of Caffeine on the battle rap scene compared to YouTube.

“I want to say this is probably like 2015 maybe, 2014.”

Emotional Dynamics in Battle Rap

6:40 to 9:25

Understand how battle rappers manage personal insults and on-stage stress.

“That is where it got bigger and then people expected just that and they forgot the hustle of everything that we was doing.”

Entertainment vs. Winning in Battle Rap

9:25 to 11:28

Analyze the shift from winning battles to focusing on entertainment value.

“Sometimes when they pop off, I like when people, when battle rappers don't pop off.”

Bonnie Godiva's Journey and Achievements

11:28 to 14:00

Hear about Bonnie Godiva's experiences and her success in battle rap.

“Go back, and there's a lot of - And don't get me wrong.”

Bonnie Godiva's Battle Rap Journey

14:00 to 15:05

Learn about Bonnie Godiva's impressive achievements in battle rap and her favorite competitors.

“after a while yeah pure entertainment right like that's what battle you ever felt like you lost a battle yeah oh yeah I got like 80 battles it's impossible okay got you I got like 80 battles.”

Top Male and Female Battle Rappers

17:12 to 23:13

Bonnie Godiva shares her thoughts on the top male and female battle rappers.

“But yeah, we're at the top of the chain.”

The Dynamics of Battling

23:14 to 28:00

Explore the strategies and advantages of female battle rappers against men.

“I feel like I said, I like doing shit like that.”

Navigating Fame in Battle Rap

28:00 to 28:59

Learn about the strategies battle rappers use to gain visibility and fame.

“He said he gets 900 million views a month.”

Experiences on Wild 'N Out

29:00 to 30:28

Bonnie Godiva shares her journey and challenges on the Wild 'N Out show.

“And it was his girlfriend Supposedly It was his girl's dress?”
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Conflicts and Controversies Behind the Scenes

30:29 to 34:15

Discover the conflicts Bonnie faced regarding scheduling and professionalism on the show.

“It was a competition called Who Wants to Wildin' Out?”

Racism and Professionalism in Entertainment

34:16 to 36:15

Bonnie discusses her experiences of racism in the industry and the implications for her career.

“I think that was my biggest disappointment with this shit because you're so pro-black, I expected you to at least care a little bit like, hey, that's happening on my show.”

Making Tough Choices and Signing Contracts

36:16 to 37:44

Hear about the difficult decisions Bonnie made during her time on the show and the pressures involved.

“It just was wild to me that it happened like that.”

Reflections on Wild 'N Out

39:33 to 42:00

Bonnie reflects on her experiences and feelings about being on the show and its impact on her.

“I need to watch more battles because I know all these guys.”

Navigating Industry Politics and Personal Experiences

42:00 to 46:05

Learn about the complexities of battle rap politics and the importance of being aware of industry dynamics.

“Because like I said, you could be the best.”

The Rise of Female Rappers and Industry Pressures

46:05 to 49:25

Explore the growing presence of female rappers and the pressures they face regarding body image and expectations.

“Like, niggas been losing battles forever, like, since the beginning of time.”

BBL Pressures in the Music Industry

49:25 to 55:20

Discuss the pressure female artists face to undergo cosmetic surgery and the implications it has on their careers.

“I just hate that it seems like the same.”

Experiences with Labels and Expectations

55:20 to 56:00

Delve into the experiences with music labels and their expectations regarding artists' appearances and marketing.

“A lot of these women are taking it out now.”

Industry Standards and Label Demands

56:00 to 56:40

Learn about the pressures artists face from labels regarding their image and marketing strategies.

“No, because you got to remember, years ago.”

The Changing Landscape of Music and Talent

56:40 to 57:30

Explore the evolving nature of the music industry and the importance of online visibility.

“Another label later on, like closer to more recently.”

Women in Hip-Hop: A Shift in Representation

57:30 to 58:25

Discuss the representation of women in hip-hop and how their narratives have evolved.

“Foxy, she had balls, but she wasn't getting - She wasn't.”

Contemporary Female Rappers and Their Impact

58:25 to 1:00:30

Analyze the current landscape of female rappers and the challenges they face in gaining recognition.

“No, no, I'm gonna give you - Don't say Glowrilla, cause I like her music.”

Doja Cat vs Kendrick: A Comparative Analysis

1:00:30 to 1:01:55

Engage in a heated debate on whether Doja Cat can be considered the female equivalent of Kendrick Lamar.

“See how she came out with that gospel record?”

The Role of Support and Marketing in Success

1:01:55 to 1:04:10

Understand the significance of marketing and team support in an artist's rise to fame.

“I don't feel like she's the female Kendrick.”

Cult Followings and Mainstream Recognition

1:04:10 to 1:07:10

Discover how some artists build dedicated fanbases despite not being mainstream.

“It was his team saying she's the female version of him.”

Battle Rap Culture and Its Implications

1:07:10 to 1:10:00

Dive into the culture of battle rap and its relation to hip-hop's broader landscape.

“So I feel like it's more about There's a lot of artists that are not we would say mainstream, but they have a co-following.”

Kendrick, Doja Cat, and Battle Rap Comebacks

1:10:00 to 1:12:01

Discussion on Kendrick's impact on hip-hop, Doja Cat's versatility, and upcoming battles in the rap scene.

“It's not taking nothing from Kendrick, accolades, and him.”
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2:47out my bitch.

2:52Yeah, yeah, this the Boy Uncle Murder, aka Led Jack Liddy, and this the Real Report show.

2:58Tony Yayo:And yeah, it's the Talk of New York Tony Ayo. And right now you're on the Real Report with one of battle raps, number one legends, female rappers. Tell them who you is, man. Yonka's in the building. It's the realest bitch in the industry on the Real Report. Oh, oh. Make some noise for Yonka. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got Bonnie Godiva in the building. Oh. Talk about battle rap. We gonna talk about what's going on with battle rap. How do you feel about the state of battle rap? Because I know we was talking back then. We was talking about like, for me, I felt like with the Loaded Lux battles and, you know, the Murder Moogs, numbers started going expensive.

3:38Tony Yayo:They went from like$10 ,000 to$50 ,000. Yeah. And then you stop seeing n****s on YouTube and then shout to Deebo, Queen of the Ring. We spoke about that. Queen of the Ring disappeared. That was one of my favorite shows where it was just females battling. And sometimes y 'all battle guys. Right. So let's talk about it. Tell me. It's a lot of greed that was happening. So the more money definitely up for a lot of people. The caffeine era, which is great for some, was detrimental for all. And a lot of people didn't see it because when these big companies come around with the big checks and then they're gone, And it's like, all right, well, what do we do next?

4:12And that's where it kind of battle rap was when caffeine left. But we always had our own. We had YouTube going. We had this clicking. We had that clicking. And then when all these apps and platforms started coming out as we get longer, you know, later into the years, that's when you started to see the split where everybody started going away from the blueprint. The blueprint is YouTube. I'm a YouTube star. I'm a YouTube baby. That's what gave me my name. Not this, this and that app. So that's where a lot of it got lost in translation When we tried to figure out what was next Off of YouTube And YouTube has always been our main source That's how I feel That's why it's where it's at right now

4:48Tony Yayo:Yeah that's how I feel Because I feel like when y 'all was on YouTube Just the early battle era was crazy Like give me I know you can give me your top five battles And Murda can give me his top five battles Because I know When was the one when Lux had the Caskey, he had the funeral Yeah, Lux and Calico. That was a summer madness. Yeah, that was Lux. And Jay-Z. What year was that? Damn. I want to say this is probably like 2015 maybe, 2014. And he had a whole funeral shit. He had the fucking choir. Yeah. He had the flowers and shit. And then Jay-Z got online and tweeted, you going to get this work.

5:23Tony Yayo:Yeah. That was 2012. Goddamn. That was my first year battling. That's when I feel like - That was your first year battling? That was my first year battling. That's for some reason to me To me that was the year Like that battle right there I mean like the theatrics Motherfucker had a hearse He had the flowers It was crazy It was just like that was looks Like that was classic Battling I don't know if the price went up At that point Or after that point But the price went up We're mooking him One in 50 ,000 a battle The price went up With the caffeine era A lot of people were coming around Like hey let's take y 'all For YouTube and put you here And we're gonna give you This much money And it was cool for that specific group of people, but for the general.

6:03Tony Yayo:So you're saying group of people. So you're saying smacking them is going to get that check. Nobody else. I'm talking about all the caffeine battlers. Us YouTube battlers talk shit to the caffeine battlers all the time. So there's a caffeine error. There's a YouTube error. What's the caffeine? Caffeine was an app that picked up BattleRap and that's why it got off of YouTube. They gave the big contract to smack and everything got pushed from YouTube to caffeine. That's a whole different platform. And then they went bankrupt and now everybody's like, where'd the money go? But we already had the money.

6:29We were already hustling the money off of YouTube. That's how we were meeting companies. We can go to the YouTube studio. We can walk in there and shoot content with stars and all that other shit because we were on YouTube. So once that left now, caffeine comes with a$50 ,000 check. Yeah. But we're not, that's not the normal. You know what I'm saying? That's what kind of fucked it up. That is where it got bigger and then people expected just that and they forgot the hustle of everything that we was doing.

6:52Tony Yayo:Yeah, because it was a point where battle rap was like the biggest, one of the biggest things in the game. Yeah. You know, like that battle that we're talking about. Like when he had the hearse and the flowers and all that shit. And I remember that all. Moot battling, you know, and I just remember prices going up. Yeah. When dudes started saying numbers like, yo, I want 50 ,000. You know what I'm saying? The battle. And, you know, if a dude get 10 ,000, what do you think is a good price point? I would say 10, 15 ,000. 10, 15 is perfect for me. For anybody, I think, though, to stand on. It depends on your number.

7:23You can't knock, you know, if a motherfucker want their number 30, 40 ,000, and they feel like they bringing a certain amount of viewers and people was tuned in because of them, you can't knock them for anything. It depends on who the person, a lot of people feel like that, that don't do it. You're talking about the low deluxe and the murder. Right, right. That's different. If they want their bread, you got to get them their bread. Oh, no, for sure. But what I'm saying is,

7:42Tony Yayo:didn't other people that's going to come up, because you had, DNA was going hard. And what's my man that be with DNA? I know everybody's name. I'm just tripping. Conceited. Kayshawn. Kayshawn. Kayshawn. There was a point where like, Mook and Luck stopped and DNA and K-Shine took over, yeah. And Hollow and there was other dudes coming to surf. They was like coming after that. But it's just like the numbers went up. When the numbers went up, it seemed like it was less battles. That's all I'm saying. One thing about battle rap I wanted to know though, right? Action U is perfect. That shit be getting real intense and personal.

8:20And then y 'all talk about like, you know the way y 'all talk about each other. Y 'all go crazy. How do you separate that shit? Like, how do you just stand on stage and take that disrespect in your face like that? It's a it's going to sound funny, but it's a stress reliever for people like me. Like, I don't I don't I can't go home and argue with my man like that or yell and scream. I can't argue with my coworkers or my friends, but I can come in here and release all that stress of wanting to say whatever I want to say to a person in this ring. So that's how it works for me. As long as you don't touch me, you can say whatever the fuck you want.

8:51And depending on that Because if somebody Like was murdered In my family And you just bring it up Like we saw with Official and Coffee When Official Punched Coffee off the stage I don't know if y 'all Both seen this But it was viral They were battling She said After your baby father Is not really dead On this side She said Well your mother just died I'm gonna send you to meet her Or something like that And she stole her She punched her Off the stage So it's like If something happens recently Like I don't I don't condone Talking about somebody That just passed away Or your child I don't bring up People's child If somebody was to do something like that to you, go off a bed.

9:23Maybe it depends. If you have a lost a loved one and they bring that shit up in a battle like that. Yeah, it could happen.

9:27Tony Yayo:Sometimes when they pop off, I like when people, when battle rappers don't pop off. Like I'm under your skin, I got you so mad. That's why I think battle rappers are definitely the best performers. You know, sometimes, you know, I think it's harder for y 'all. People keep battle rap in a box where they think that they can't make records or can't do what, you know, what me and Murda do or other rappers do. because we just know y 'all for disrespecting motherfuckers on stage. But one thing you got to give battle rappers all their best performance. So when you get under a nigga's skin, bro, and you laughing and that person is just heated and you just killing them and you just drinking your water and you just watching, I think when you lose control, it's like you almost lost the battle.

10:07Tony Yayo:For me. It's almost like a reverse kink for me. You know how people be like, you have a humiliation kink. You just want to be humiliated. My kink is humiliating people. Like it makes me feel better because I'm so nice of a person. I don't do that nowhere else So if I come here And I can really roast The shit out of somebody And I'm not an aggressive rapper So I'm not gonna be Oh I'm gonna slap the shit Out you bitch No it's look at your Fucking dirty ass shoes And your shirt But like that's how I rap Like I want people To laugh at you I want you to be embarrassed I want you to I want you to feel this When I'm rapping She brought some dudes Private parts in one battle bro I told you I was like yo It gets crazy That's crazy It gets crazy Y 'all get crazy Fuck your kids Wash your pussy But that's what I'm saying I still have moral codes I don't talk about people With kids I don't I thought you did, no?

10:48Tony Yayo:I think that's part of the battle rap, no? I could. I'm not saying you can't. I'm not saying you can't. That's why people be getting punched in the face of these battle rappers. That's what I'm saying. And this is why we're going to bring battle rappers on our show, because we got to make battle rap great again. Because I remember motherfuckers pulling out paperwork, talking about niggas' kids, talking about niggas getting raw, talking about rappers getting pissed to whip. That's what made me watch battle rap. Talking about who's fucking who. Because I know you said, you know, you fucked with.

11:15Tony Yayo:I ain't gonna say his name You know what I mean Talk about who you fucking Talk about You know what I'm saying Like That was the greatest Time in better Like It gotta come back To YouTube Or something That's how I feel We are still on YouTube It's just the general places That y 'all used to seeing it Is not there no more The main place Was Smack Smack YouTube Was the main place For everybody to go Smack you gotta do better I don't know Smack We gonna get Smack Shout to Queens Smack you gotta do better I don't know what's going on He got his deal And you know Now the deal's done though, so it's like we could go back to - Rob Markman Go back to YouTube.

11:49Tony Yayo:Go back, and there's a lot of - And don't get me wrong. There's a lot of good battles. Right? I ain't mad at that. There's a lot of good battles. It's just like she said, the marketing is there. It's not there because Smack don't have that YouTube. Now think about how big - Same with Queen of the Ring. Look, that's what I'm saying. Queen of the Ring, D-Bo, I'm mad at him because that was one of my favorite shits. Know what I'm saying? But Ed, when you think about this, right? Battle rap is worldwide. I've seen battles in London. Yes. Who just had a battle rap in London a couple of months ago? I battled in London every year.

12:17Tony Yayo:See what I'm saying? I've been battling every year since 2015. It's a worldwide thing. I battled in Australia. They took us there for a week. Me and Head Ice gave us - Sheldon Head Ice. You know what I be wanting to know too, Bonnie? How do they be picking the winner with this shit sometimes, man? It depends. The crowd, motherfucker. It depends. It be different though. It don't just be the crowd, correct? Nah. It used to be the crowd just mainly. That was the good battles. Right. Then they started doing the judging because people had things, money on the line or whatever, or whatever, so we started doing the judging things, the tournaments.

12:45You don't like that.

12:45Tony Yayo:A good battle is when the crowd... All the classic smack battles, the crowd, the motherfuckers say a line, and it's just over. You know it's over, the crowd is just dead. They're like... But it wasn't like at the end, like yo, make the loudest noise for this one or you make the loudest noise for this one? Nah, it's not like that. You know when the nigga's finished. I see that more on tournaments, like what I'm saying, where it's like, all right, there has to be a winner. but how battle rap is now and we seen that with Daylight Daylight was the first one to say don't focus on winning focus on the entertainment aspect Daylight had balls that's how you become viral he could have just rapped and beat everybody but he never would have been at Daylight he is now Yeah, Daylight started doing like memes in his rap like dress up like a white guy You know what I'm saying?

13:31Tony Yayo:Dress up like Spawn and shit on stage Yeah, Spawn He just did it Not everything was great He took a shit on stage? Yes, he did Oh man That was water house That was water house that was that was Joe Budden when Joe Budden's battle hollow he battled somebody in a spawn outfit and took his shit on stage I don't know if it was real shit I don't know I didn't keep looking so who knows maybe he had a costume their life was kind of crazy but he did have balls I can't front but he would have never got to the height that's what I'm saying because it's not about winning and losing it's about entertaining more than that it became that way after a while yeah pure entertainment right like that's what battle you ever felt like you lost a battle yeah oh yeah I got like 80 battles it's impossible okay got you I got like 80 battles.

14:10I'm the highest viewed female. I'm telling you no different. They like to say, this don't count and that don't count. Every view I did count. Even Vlad TV because these bitches don't get there. So every view I did count and I'm the highest viewed female battle rapper in the industry. Period. I didn't know that.

14:28Tony Yayo:Because I had my favorites. Sheena, Ashley, you, Jazz the Rapper. I liked 40. Wasn't 40 from Connecticut? 40 from Boston. Boston. I liked her. she battled what's the other one from the Bronx the short one I think she had a baby Farrah yeah Farrah funeral the list goes on and on there's a lot of dope female battle rappers you have a bad name girls he talking about yeah me and 40 have a million views then we teamed up and we battled DNA and K-Shine which I'm sure y 'all probably seen y 'all watched the two girls in there right yeah definitely that was me and 40 so every time me and 40 do something it's millions of views wait this is a soda yeah And it has protein?

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17:08Tony Yayo:Visit wellsfargo.com slash autographjourney. Terms apply. But yeah, we're at the top of the chain. Who's your top five male battle rappers? Shit. I thought she was going to say one, and he threw me off. And female. We went female. I know you're going to include yourself, but... I really don't include myself when I do my top five. All right, so let's go top five male and then top five female for you. Top five male. Damn. JC, I'm not doing no order. And this is my personal, so fuck y 'all if y 'all don't agree. Oh, shit. Talk your shit, Bonnie. All time, right? Damn. JC, B-Magic, Rum Nitty. Damn, this is hard.

17:55I was fucking with B-Magic, too. B Magic was one of the first punchline niggas He carried niggas He was the first rum nitty

18:03Tony Yayo:Oh so you said B Magic was the first punchline niggas Yeah Say it again JC Now why would you say JC His writing is impeccable and he's still doing it He still battles and I be like how the fuck did he come up with that shit

18:21Dang I had somebody in my head I'm gonna say Surf and Daylight that's five but females excluding myself I say Gaddis she's one of the first females I've seen doing intergender when nobody was doing them I'm talking about back grind time days like there wasn't even too many females around and she was doing it so I respect that and she was fire 40 bars legacy it's very hard to leave her out of the top five whether you know whatever her career is now doesn't matter to what it was at the height of her career who else I got Jazz just for general industry purposes she's like a good go to face I'm a little drama fool so people like drama tend to go to you know clean cut way people that don't fight and shit right who else I got I named three E Hart first writer that made me stop first writer that made me stop female like what she say hold on why now that was crazy

19:20Tony Yayo:that's why I miss Queen of the Ring man You bringing back memories for me. I used to watch that shit. My heart was top of the food chain. It still is to me. One more. I'm forgetting somebody and I made this whole list. Shit. Who you missing? You not gonna throw Shane and Ashley in there? I think you really wanna put yourself in there. That's why. You wanna put Shane and Ashley on there? No. Nah, you bugging. Nah, I ain't my cup of tea. Shane and Ashley? Oh shit, that's not a cup of tea, nigga. You can't shit on Shane and Ashley. That's not my cup of tea. You see the names I be picking? A lot of names I be picking people don't generally pick.

19:52people don't be like yo v magic my top you know what i'm saying you have to really

19:56Tony Yayo:i mean for me you know what i'm saying my top five i gotta throw loaded lux murder moop um i got a queen's dna oh sue surf and what's my man the gun bar king rock damn i forgot tay rock see i fucked that i'm supposed to say rockers tay rock is one of my favorites there's more all of them is pretty dope there's so many but that and then the females i'm I'ma go, I gotta throw you on there. Shayna Ashley. I don't know, how you sleep on Shayna Ashley? That's not my cup of tea, bro. You don't fuck with Shayna, man. My cup of tea. Shayna Ashley was killing bitches. She ain't killing me. Shayna Ashley.

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20:35She ain't killing me. She ain't killing me. She ain't killing me. You battle with Bonnie? I mean shit to me, no? You ain't battle with Bonnie? We setting that up, man. Shayna, she don't like you. Shayna Ashley. They know who to play with.

20:44Tony Yayo:Bonnie, Jazz. Cause Jazz, yeah. I'll go by as much battles y 'all was going to. The ones that do the most battles. Hustle. Miss Hustle. I'm a throw one there. And... I don't know. There's so much more. It's Eat Hard. It's official. It's a lot of good... Oh, official. Oh, official was... You see what I'm saying? I fucked with official too. You remember Couture? Couture too. There's a lot of good girls. Yeah, you gotta... With battle rap, you gotta have a top 10. You can't do just a top five. Tori Doe, there's a lot of good girls. But Queen of the Ring, that's why I said shout to Devo, man. They fucked that shit up because I feel like when that was on YouTube, that was like my go-to.

21:20Tony Yayo:Like imagine if that would have kept going because I tell Merc all the time, like him and my man Light, they stay on ESPN. I love ESPN, but that's when you call them, you know how you hear somebody TV? ESPN, Sport News. You know what it is. If you call me, it's going to be YouTube. So for me, if Battle Rap was still on YouTube, Queen of the Ring and all that, that shit was like the go-to. That was like, yo, fuck that. You ain't nothing on line. I'm going to catch me a nice Battle Rap. Somebody getting disrespected. And that was the hype for the YouTube babies. That's when I met people like y 'all.

21:52I went to concerts with Ghostface. And he like, yo, you know what I'm saying? People invited us out because we were at the top of the YouTube streets.

22:01Tony Yayo:Do you remember the beginning of Smack? Maff Hoffa knocked out the little nigga. Remember that shit? Nigga said something. Man, little knocked him out. She was crazy. So I said, you remember all the fights in Queen of the Rings? Yeah, the fights. The females fight 10 times more than the men. That was the best shit. 10 times more. And look, the atmosphere for battle rap was so gangster, because it's like, you got 100 niggas on stage, you got 100 niggas - Never know when it's gonna go down. You're in New York, you got the, you're in Philly, relentless crowd. New York, relentless crowd. London, relentless crowd.

22:31Tony Yayo:Chicago, I feel like for artists, a rap artist, it's less pressure because you know my record already. You know Murda's gonna go up there and do fucking some shit with Future or do some rap up or whatever, or get the strap, whatever it is. You know I'm gonna do whatever I'm gonna do. 50 gonna do it. it's less pressure. But for battle rap, cause fucking pause, choking is the worst thing you could do on battle rap. It is. It is. It is. I know that's a pause. Cause you know he got a pause. We gonna get a pause. Gonna get some eggs and cheese. Pause. I already know. Yo, cook the bacon. Pause. Yo, crossing the street.

23:08Tony Yayo:Pause. Yo. But choking on stage, that's a pause. Yeah. How was it for you battling against the dudes? Like the Oom P's and all these guys. I like it. I feel like I said, I like doing shit like that. And I like taking the advantage where people think I don't have it. Whenever you battle a man, they always think you're going to lose. It's a male sport. It's male dominated. But this is not a physical sport like basketball and shit. So I can beat this nigga. I can lyrically whoop this nigga ass, even though I can't physically. Say the line you said. You said some crazy shit to him that went viral.

23:41Tony Yayo:Which one? He said some crazy shit to you. But you said some crazy shit to him that went viral I don't know Ed if you were funny Oh I was talking about his wife And I was like she could take the come out of the community Oh my god She could really take the come out community I battled Enes and I said You better hope Jehovah witness And the internet went crazy I had a religious scheme I said stop on your floor and knock on your door You better hope Jehovah witness And they went crazy for that one too I try to give those bars all the time I just said some bars that have been like People have told me it's the best bar I've ever heard I had niggas that never went to Puerto Rico with Fed cases.

24:14They went from Puerto Rico. That was one of them too. Oh shit. You gotta be a street nigga to know that. How the fuck y 'all battle rappers think of that?

24:21Tony Yayo:Like, you know, average rapper ain't thinking about the metaphors, the bars. Like, what do you think, how long it takes you to think about a rapper to prep? Like, say I say, all right, you about to battle fucking - That girl you just ain't like, that girl. Shayna Ashley. How would you prep for Shayna Ashley? Like, what does it take - Yeah, you put in the back, cause you see he keeps saying that name. I can't see if you're gonna get a special. I can't see if you're gonna get a special. No, I can't see if you're gonna get a special. I want some money on the floor. I can't see if I can put some value money up now.

24:46We need to put that battle together, man. I know it's gonna be a good battle. Cause he keep mentioning this girl. No, listen, I'm saying - But who you invited here first? I invited you, of course. Fuck that. Get Shane up here, we gonna get jazzed. Fuck that. She ain't here now. DNA, we're gonna love it. It's the Bonnie Gadiva show. She ain't here now. That's right, Bonnie. Talk your shit. See, it's always competition. That's right, always.

25:05Tony Yayo:It gets real disrespectful. And she talking about, she don't talk about kids. Oh, man, they talk about everything. I don't talk about kids. I don't need to do that. I like battling men, though, because I like getting that advantage. When I do get that advantage, it's very hard for them to get it back. So when I battle Oon and I talk about his wife, your wife, oh, she fucked all the rappers. She even let Petey crack. It just make niggas laugh and they look at this nigga different. You know what I'm saying? And now it's hard for him to get that energy back. That's what I like doing when I battle men.

25:31Tony Yayo:How do you know to get that? When you writing, how do you know? Did you win that battle against him, P? Oh, shit. I don't even lie. Sometimes I don't even make it shit up. I don't give a fuck. I battled a nigga. I said, you got a wife named Crystal? Everyone smash Crystal. Mazel Tov. I already had the bar. Now your wife's name is Crystal, nigga. That's crazy. Give a fuck what your wife's name is. This is what I'm missing, man. This is what we missing. Your wife's name could be Natalie. It's Crystal tonight. Nigga, I got this bar. So what do you think we need to do for marketing for battle rap right now to get it back to like, I'm not saying it went anywhere, it's just back to - Back to where we was at, in the YouTube heights.

26:10I think it would take more people like y 'all, man, giving us opportunities like Cam Ron, bringing us on Revolt. I saw you with Cam. I saw you with Cam. I heard Cam did an event.

26:18Tony Yayo:How did that work? It was great. That's the whole tournament I did was Cam Ron's tournament. So he did it It was four rounds And it was about I want to say Six on each side It was 12 of us It was me, Shuni, and Yoshi We're the only three females Everybody else was guys And we battled every week We didn't know who our opponent was And I like that Because a lot of people Tend to do a lot of bullshit When you have time That's when the Writing together happens That's when the This and that happens If you only have three days You don't have time for that You either have the talent Or you don't Or you're going to drown You sink or swim You're going to get busy You sink or swim So that's what it was with, like, with Cameron.

26:54We didn't know who was going to balance. We didn't know. We just had to get it together in three days. So that pushed something extra out of me that I wouldn't have had come out if I had three months. Now I'm just taking my time. I'm being lazy and shit. Slowly writing it as opposed to me trying to take this nigga head off at 25K. It matters right now. So that's what it takes. It takes more of that, like, more of y 'all shining some of the lights y 'all have because we are, like, y 'all favorite pastime. That's how we got where we got, being y 'all favorite pastime. So it'll take y 'all pushing us in that spotlight.

27:24Tony Yayo:How do you think more battle rappers can transition to making records like Sue Surf did something with Leaf Ward, me and Murdo was talking about, we love that record, right? I heard it. He's spitting bars, I love it. And you see Eminem was a big battle rapper. He started off and he transitioned to make, you know, hit records for the world. What do you think battle rappers have to do, male and female, to get over the heat, to get out the box of saying, you know, we can make records too, you know? if you want to be in the superstar lane and not the writer lane it's very easy for us to be in the writer lane we wrote a lot of shit we wrote in movies we wrote for celebrities when they had that little show where they was battling each other with Method Man a lot of battle rappers wrote the rounds for the celebrities like we've been in we write in movies if they have a battle or some other shit they've had us around and they book us for that but if you want to be in the spotlight you have to learn how to play the game you gotta just right now only way you get famous is by getting all the eyes on you you see a nigga I don't even know his name.

28:19I just seen him yesterday. He had a pink dress on on Rolling Loud. And now he's all over the internet. Oh yeah, I just seen that. You see what I'm saying? Hey, who was that? You see what I'm saying? I just seen that. I had his girlfriend. I have no clue who that is. He said he gets 900 million views a month. I'm like, well, I never heard of this nigga. But now we know. But he's popping. Now we know. You see what I'm saying? He get in the bag, though. Yeah, he wore a dress on on the show.

28:38Tony Yayo:It went viral. I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, but I never heard of it. You see what I'm saying? So you're right. The baby with the diaper on You know what I'm saying? That got him viral The baby wearing the diaper How he used to do it So that's what it takes Is knowing how to do that A lot of rappers just think Hey, we're great And we are good at what we do But you got to tell You got to figure out a way To make everybody put them eyes on you You got to figure it out That's why I work so hard

29:05See? And it was his girlfriend Supposedly It was his girl's dress?

29:10Tony Yayo:Yeah, she was with him She was with him and he was doing He does how many views you said? He do 900 million views a month He said right? But what he do? He rap? He do a bunch of skits where he'll be like Send this to somebody, it'll be like us sitting here Send this to somebody who needs their own show Tag them in the comments And then everybody will go tag, you know what I'm saying? He do shit like that So he doing a bunch of different things that's generating all these views But then he'll wear a dress on the stage so everybody can pay attention And see what he's doing But that's what I mean So that's what it takes I think I need to wear a dress to blow up.

29:41Come on, pause. You don't need to do that. I'm only joking, man. See, don't get him started. We was doing good. We was doing so good. Come on. I could see you doing some shit like that.

29:49Tony Yayo:Couple of rappers wore dresses, man. I can see you. Stop playing. It's a joke, man. It's a fucking joke. Couple of rappers wore dresses. They definitely did. And you still listen to their music. I'm dead. Yeah, you definitely did. Tyler Perry wore a dress. We still watch his movies. It's funny. Big Mama's House. Martin, we still watched it. Young Thug was in a dress. We know that. You still listen to his music? But yeah, I think that's what it's for. It's just to put the eyes on you. He's just doing anything. I don't agree with doing anything, but I feel like you should have a balance. You got to have a balance.

30:19If you want to be in that spotlight, then you have to figure out the balance. You was in the spotlight for a minute on Wildin' Out with Nick Cannon and all that. Oh, yeah. What's going on with that? What happened with that? What's going on with that? I won in front of everybody. It was a competition called Who Wants to Wildin' Out? It was the only competition they ever did like that. And I remember it so vividly because I was asking Charlie to put me on the show. I'm like, yo, can you just talk to somebody, give me an audition? He's like, don't worry. It's coming up. Just look out. And maybe a week later, I seen the email that said, hey, if you want to be on Wild N Out, you want to be a cast member sending your audition tape.

30:52Right. I didn't go through anybody else. I didn't try to sneak on. I said, you know what? I'm going to send my audition tape. I audition taped and I battled everybody on the show. Like in my audition tape. I just, everybody I could think of that was on the show, I was just there battling them on the thing. And I got on there. I beat 999 other people. No advantages. They didn't know who I was. I wasn't in there like I'm Bonnie Godiva. I was a regular person. And I beat 999 other people to be on this show for three seasons. I won. I started to realize as this season was going on that I was supposed to be on that I wasn't really getting the notifications that I needed to get to be there for the shows.

31:30I'm missing shows at this point. And I'm battling. I'm battling as well. So it's the point where like, okay, I'm not going to take the battle if I know that we're shooting. So I need you to tell me that we're shooting so I don't take the battle. And I'm not double booked. And I kept having to, nobody's telling me. So now I got a battle and I can't do the show. And it was happening repeatedly.

31:46Tony Yayo:Yeah, because you're missing money because you got battles set up where you can make thousands of dollars. And they bullshitting and playing around telling us, am I shooting or not today? You got to let me know. Right. So if I didn't hear nothing, I'm battling. Yeah, fuck that. I got to go get that money. Now I got a contract I signed and I can't get out of that. So that's what was happening. and I ended up, there was a lady that was working on staff and she was, I guess, quote unquote, in charge of letting people know the schedule. So I'm like, I started complaining a little, like, hey, I'm not being told, I'm not getting the opportunities I was supposed to be getting.

32:14She's like, oh, I'm going to let you know. And I think I sent another email. I'm like, it wasn't mean. It was just like, it's assertive. Like, hey, I need to know so I can set my schedule. She's like, oh, well, you need to wait and I'm the only one that's helping you and da, da, da, da, X, Y, Z. And she started to like, go off. Some random white lady just on the staff. And I didn't really, I never came into that situation like I said, like I'm Bonnie Godiva, here's my manager, here's my this. My manager at the time happened to know Nick Cannon's manager. Like she was in that circle. I just never brought her in because I already had it.

32:43I don't need to have people help me if I already got it myself. So I called her. I'm like, hey, this lady's kind of weird. I want to call her, but I need you on the phone. So she was on the phone and she was recording the conversation just because we never know what the fuck's going to happen. So I'm like, hey, I just wanted to call you because it seemed like the email was kind of weird. Like we just want to know what time the shows are that I have. and she started cursing me out, calling me all type of ghetto bitches and all type of shit on the phone and hung up on me. Dang. So mind you, luckily my very well-resourced manager at the time was on the phone to hear it because it could have been he said, she said, and she would have just said I was fucking lying.

33:18But she couldn't because my manager had the recording and she also is somebody. So now I'm starting to use my little influence. Like, all right, now we're going to have to do something. I need you to actually hit his manager up and see what we could do because that was weird as fuck. I don't even know where that came from. and it felt very racist in nature because I don't even know this white lady. I had to be calling you ghetto and shit. Racist and lying. You are fucking lying. I've never gave you ghetto. Like, for you to even, you know what I'm saying? So, so, that happened. Next thing I know.

33:45You ghetto bitch.

33:46Tony Yayo:Call HR. They sent me an email. Call HR department. You see what I'm saying? Next thing I know. You can't do that shit. There's certain things you can't do in business. I agree with you. So, I had my manager call. They called me into, I was supposed to go to the show the next day. Somebody else reached out to me with the schedule, not the same lady. It was a different person now. And from then on, it was a different person. It wasn't her. I don't know if she got fired or moved or what, but they were like, hey, we want you to come in a little early, we just need to talk to you. I went in there and I knew Nick Cannon knew what was happening and I really felt like because he's so pro-black, I expected him to do something.

34:17I think that was my biggest disappointment with this shit because you're so pro-black, I expected you to at least care a little bit like, hey, that's happening on my show. But did you, you know what I'm saying? But hold on, hold on. But did he know? He knew. But hold on. I just told you how to move.

34:32Tony Yayo:You know why you can't blame Nick Cannon? Because sometimes like, and this is what somebody once told me in business. You could be the best person for the show. You could be, but if they feel like you're a problem, they will go with the secondary person. That's how a lot of corporations is. So if this, look, if this person had power and there was a misunderstanding, and even if she did call you a ghetto bitch, which is wrong, right? She's going to flip it and bounce it. And they're going to believe her over you no matter what. And that would have happened had not been for my manager. But if it's being that she's a sister and there was this white lady, she felt like Nick should have been more...

35:09Because my manager put him on to the situation. That's what I'm saying. I had the resources. You had the taping. You had the taping. I had the taping. I had the taping listening to it. You know what I'm saying? It's not like it was a he said, she said. No, I'm not saying you're in the room,

35:21Tony Yayo:but what I'm saying is the person with power is going to be favored no matter fucking what. I'm just keeping it real. That's a fact. She's going to flip it like she was cursing at me. The real power come with Nick Cannon if she got to connect to him with the managers and they got the taping. So that's what she didn't understand. They're going to feel like body's replaceable, nigga. I'm going to tell you, but they didn't replace me. Here's what they did. They sent two black employees from the law team to come shuck and jive in front of me and say, hey, you know how this happens with them and we just have to deal with this.

35:48Just sign this paper and don't sue us and we'll put you on the show. Because the HR department gave that call. Because that's what the fuck happened when they found out I had that recording.

35:56Tony Yayo:That's what Nick Cannon did. Yeah, so now and what makes me so upset about it, and that's why I didn't end up going back, because I could have went back. But they were like, hey, if you sign it, you can go on the show. But if you don't sign it, you can't do these episodes. Mind you, the whole world is waiting to see me on the show. I just want in front of everybody. My family's at the fucking TV right now. So if I don't sign this, I can't let everybody down. It wasn't even on my mind to sue. It just was wild to me that it happened like that. I didn't even do anything but be here and be talented.

36:28On top of that, I was...

36:29Tony Yayo:Somebody else would've been like, fuck that, yo. On top of that... I could sue. You putting that bulb in my head, like, hold on, I could sue. Maybe. But on top of that, too... You did just get crazy. Did you ever sign? I did sign. I went on the show. So you wanted to sign it. I signed, I went on the show, and then I just... It just took all the fun out of it for me. Like, I... Yeah, you was fiending to be on Wild, and I would've been wilding on somebody's bank account. I didn't want to go anymore. I didn't want to go anymore from that situation. But on top of that, too,

36:57You know what I'm saying? Like, I was there when, that's where his mind was.

37:00Tony Yayo:His mind didn't give a fuck that I just had a racist altercation. He didn't even care that you was getting drunk. No, half of the time when I walked in there like, oh, you a Wild N' Out girl? They called me somebody else's name. I'm a cast member. I'm not a Wild N' Out girl. I'm not one of Nick Cannon's girls. I'm here to do the show. I'm a cast member. So that's how a lot of that shit went. It was just very disappointing for me overall. Gotcha, gotcha. I thought it would be just fun. Nick Cannon, man, we got to fix this, Nick. We got to fix this, Nick. Yeah, Nick Cannon, y 'all took some wild, man.

37:27Tony Yayo:You gotta fix this, man. But she can't talk about it. I would've sued. I would've got the bag. How long was you on the show for? I would've got that money. I got to do five episodes out of my... I was supposed to do 13 times three. I was supposed to do 39 episodes, but I ended up only doing five episodes. So what do you mean you battled 900 people? Truthfully? 900 people? No, no. I can battle 900 people. I have 80 battles, I said. It felt like you battled 900 people. You said the Wild N' Out thing when you said it was you and you said you were not. Oh, a thousand people total went into the competition.

38:00Oh, okay. That's what I mean. I beat out 900 and 9 other people. Oh, shit. A thousand people winning the competition. A thousand people. I wasn't even the only battle rapper. At the end, it was me and four other people. Three of us were battle rappers and one was a comedian. So it was me, Myverse, Dre Dennis, and a comedian girl who passed away. Yeah, because look how good,

38:20Tony Yayo:when you look at it, I know it was exciting for you. A thousand people, you was the one to win. Yeah, that's because she's one of the best. No favors, no handouts, no I'm Bonnie Godiva. Just going in there and doing my shit. Come on, Nick Ken. Let's fix this, man. Yeah, it's the Talk of New York, Tony Ayo. And it's the boy, Led Jet Lenny. Whoa! And right now, we representing Baskin Lava, black owned. One of my best products that I love to use is the beard grow, because I want to use, you know, pull a whole beard out. I've been working on my waves, so I've been messing with this one. Yeah, I ain't going to hold you.

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39:34Tony Yayo:Louis? Ball game. What's my name? Hitman. Shout out to Hitman. I fucking... Because that's what I said. Battles. I need to watch more battles because I know all these guys. I like all of them. But you see their success being on the show. It's a pause. Oh my God. Is that a pause? Yes. I like all of them is a fucking pause. For a New York nigga. Yeah, it's a pause. Pause nigga. Yeah, the fuck you talking about? But I'll tell Murda, yo, I'm about to flip my eggs in the batter and it's like a pause. I'm trying to like - I like all of them. That's a pause? I'm done. I'm just about to flip my eggs - That might be a pause too, man.

40:10Tony Yayo:Thank you, man. Everything is just a pause. We just gotta get a pause, man. My fault. Finally, back to what I was saying, man. I know you was excited to be on a platform because Wildin' Out is, you know, it's a big platform, been around for black people, our people, all people. Yeah. This, you know, for this long a time. It's been, what, 20 years now, maybe? And for you to be on there and get excited because you see Conceited and Hitman on there that built a career off being on the show as well as a lot of other people, you know what I'm saying, Rip Michaels, the list goes on and on. And you being there and being excited and that happened to you and you being black, a black woman in the business is hard enough.

40:47Tony Yayo:Hell yeah. A black woman. Come on, Nick. We know how you rap for the black people, Nick. How did you feel like? What did you feel like on the inside? Like, damn, I signed, but I still feel wow, because I didn't do anything. I felt like I might be too black for the industry. Like, I was just supposed to shut up and let this lady talk to me however I wanted. That's how they put it. However she wanted, and I would have had all the fucking episodes. Shut up and rap. That's what it felt like they were telling me, and in the back of my head, I know me, and that's why I said, That's why I told y 'all in the back room, I ain't want to be a superstar.

41:16Because I see that's what come with it, and I don't have the ability to shut my heart and mouth.

41:21Tony Yayo:I don't have the ability to do it. I witnessed some crazy shit. I ain't going to lie. Sometimes, though, in business, I ain't going to front. I heard some crazy shit. You just got to sit there. And you just like, yo, I'm on tour. I know if I throw this nigga off the stage or throw him in the cameras or I'm going to fuck 50 shit up. And I know 50 going to be like, well, why that nigga say that? but at the same time, business is business. A lot of people, I think, I'm not like that. I think a lot of people just prejudge anyway. Like your manager, your manager, I know managers that would be like, just bitch, shut the fuck up.

41:55Just do what you do.

41:56Tony Yayo:Listen to the white lady, just shut the fuck up. If she wasn't connected, that's what she would've told me. Because like I said, you could be the best. Like you was beating everybody. But if they feel like anybody in business feels like you're a problem, white, black, Jewish, Indian, Muslim, Christian, whatever it is, right? They're gonna go to the secondary person. That's how I just think business is. So I've been in meetings with 50 and Jimmy Iveen on Interscope, and I just shut the fuck up. I'm just sitting there like a sponge, just listening. But you just trying to figure out your schedule, and she looked at you like, who the fuck are you?

42:29Tony Yayo:Who is she? It's one of the fucking Nix Cannon girls. Probably thought she was one of his baby roms. You know what I'm saying? I'm just keeping it real I was there during the breeding rounds He only had Mariah's kids When I was there That was his only kids I was there when he was Yeah you was early Wiley Okay that girl that girl I was there in the beginning of that shit You seen him picking him out You know what I'm saying She said she was watching him picking him out So I seen him like okay that's why he don't give a fuck About what's happening with me He's over there I think he had enough kids now that he could revisit the situation.

43:09I don't think it's that. After this come, I think Nick Cannon gonna give her a call. Watch. I think when somebody like Nick Cannon

43:15Tony Yayo:is on a level, right? Like, right? I'm just keeping it real. He's on a certain level. He got this big deal with... Who's he signed with? Who is it? Probably Universal, whoever. He signed with Wild N' Out, got this big deal. Now you got this head honcho lady that might not be number two or three. She might be number four. She was a scheduler, yeah. I wasn't like - But in her mind, listen, and I'm not saying she's right, but in her mind is who the fuck is Bonnie Godiva? Even though you killing it, sometimes management be... What I'm saying is management and business would have been like, your Bonnie, just chill.

43:48Tony Yayo:We know this is a bitch. You know what I'm saying? Your Bonnie, you know she's a bitch. We know she might be a little racist - She don't know how to talk to people. Yeah, she don't know... Or disrespectful or whatever it is. Sometimes in business, I don't know. I think people just learn to eat that because that's just the business. You're gonna, everybody, you're not, I done been on tour. How many people we hated on tour, bruh? That's a fact. Come on, bruh. That's a fact. I done heard racist shit before. Little watermelon jokes or whatever. And I'm like, yo, if I throw this nigga through this barrier, I'm gonna be wrong.

44:19Tony Yayo:And then you know what? It not only stops my money, then you got a person in the back that'll amp it up. Like, yo man, yo's out of control. Murder's out of control. They fucking beat up the guy. I didn't say watermelon. I didn't say watermelon and chicken. I said, we have watermelon. They gonna flip it some way or bounce it. Like that's the industry. You talking to a nigga that MTV at the time, yo, being us from red carpet, you know what I'm saying? We was beefing with Jimmy Henchman, Al Sharpton, stomping on our CDs. Niggas. Yeah, you can look all that shit up, facts. So I'm a nigga, yo, yo, you tell yo.

44:55Tony Yayo:I remember Chris Lighting telling me, yo, MTV said they don't want yo on the red carpet right now. Niggas 50 was like, tell them to hide in the back. You know what I mean? And not chilled in the back. So I just was used to that shit. Like yeah, 50's, cause you know it's all about 50. 50's the primary. Fuck all them other niggas. Security will knock you out the way. And then that's when niggas, I done seen it. 50, 50, niggas knock you right out the way. You with 50, security knocking you out the way. But if me, I don't care. Like I'm just like, yo, it's the industry. Nobody's ever been my friend.

45:28Tony Yayo:We not gonna be friends. That's why me and Murda friends. Murda beef with everybody. Rap up, disrespectful. Like a battle rap. I know they be on your ass about that rap up. They don't be liking it. That's why, yo, look. That's a pause too. Pause me too. He pauses me too. For sure. I'm just saying you said baby on my ass. You're right, you're right, you're right. We're going to have the pause meter. I don't know if that's a pause. We're going to have that for the show soon. But, you know, we love the culture. But I just, we never really got along with nobody. And that's why I like battle rap. because I think people like when rappers get at each other.

46:00Tony Yayo:They love blood sport until somebody gets shot or killed. And niggas be like, kumbaya, we got to stop. Why niggas acting like this Drake-Kendrick thing was so wrong? Like, niggas been losing battles forever, like, since the beginning of time. I think before Drake and Kendrick, all we was listening to was Sexy Red at the point. I'm just keeping it real. Sexy Red. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about that? Rob Markman - Because now it came to a point where I remember when Nicki first came. I remember the first G in the office, Madison Square Garden, and there was this kid A, and he was on Nicki Minaj early.

46:33Tony Yayo:We was on Nicki Mixtapence, Nicki Minaj around the time Fendi got around with her. I remember Fendi didn't want her to come to the G in the office. He didn't want her around at all. Shout out to Nicki. He didn't want Nicki around at all. And we was on Nicki. Rob Markman - My man A just kept talking about... He worked in the office. He was intern, he was like, Nicki, Nicki. And Nicki was going crazy. At that point, it was crazy because that point in hip hop, it was like, it's always been a stage in hip hop with female rappers. There's only like three. Like could it be MC Light, Queen Latifah, and who would you say?

47:05Tony Yayo:Let's say MC Light, Queen Latifah at that time. That was big at that time. Of the Lady of Rage, right? She was poppin'. Yeah. Lady Rage. I would say what's her name was more poppin' though. What's my girl? Was it Yo-Yo? Don't play with my yo-yo. Remember that? You don't remember that drink? Yo-yo is a pause? No, it's just how funny to me. That's a pause, Bonnie? I don't know. Yo, get the meat out. It's the name of the song. No, we're not doing that. That's the name of the song. You can't play with my yo-yo. All right, pause. I mean, it do sound kind of crazy. But that was yo-yo. Remember yo-yo?

47:39Tony Yayo:Who's the name of the song? Yes. Remember yo-yo? Yes. Oh, no. Oh, cool. You know, my three, I would say Queen Latifah, MC Light, and definitely, I always say Salt-N-Pepa because that was like, to me that was like the first sex sells. I'm not gonna lie, I was like, I can't even tell you how I was young as shit and I should not have known the words to shoot, but I knew every word to that song. Well I remember Push It, Push It was the shit cause they had the tight outfits. You know, we was by the TV watching them dance and they had the body suits on and the big earrings. You know how women was in the eighties, everything just was so perfect at that time.

48:12Tony Yayo:Bamboo earrings. Yeah, bamboo earrings. So we watching video music, watching them. And then we fast forward to the era when it was just, what you feel, it was just Foxy, Lauryn Hill, and Lil' Kim. Lil' Kim. There was other rappers. Eve came along. Eve came. Missy. Shout out Rap Fridays. That's family too. Shout out Rap Fridays. Rap Fridays. But now, let's keep it real. How do you feel about the game? There's way more female rappers. Like I feel like female rappers kind of taking over. Like 40 % to 50 % of music being consumed is females. was listening to female rap. Yeah. It's like y 'all got your own shit going on.

48:50Tony Yayo:Like y 'all listen to niggas, y 'all listen to Future Gunner, certain niggas. Yeah. But y 'all got your YK nieces and your Lottos and Nicki and Cardi and who else? Let's just go on and on. It just seemed like this is the most you've seen female rappers on the game. Yeah, and I like that because it shouldn't always be one or two or three. It's way too many talented people and music is not a gender-based sport. And I look at it as a sport. It is a sport. I look at it as like athletes. That's how I feel about it. And that's how we should be treated and respected as such to me. But I love it that there's a lot of women in it.

49:26I just hate that it seems like the same. Like only girls who sexualize themselves can make it to a certain height. I feel like that has to change because it's so much of us now. So many of us. Yeah, hell yeah. I felt like that from the sex he read all the way to the dochi. Look at dochi. She's a lyricist But she still felt like She's talked about it I felt pressured to get a BBL Still currently in this day and age

49:50Tony Yayo:But don't she I mean Don't she sexy though You know what I think I mean she looks good But she still felt pressured To get a BBL To make it in the industry So she got it She has a BBL She has a skinny BBL But then sister get a BBL too And she looks Like everybody loves it It don't matter But what I'm saying is We shouldn't have to feel like We have to do that I think females get them BBLs Because they want to though Yeah I think it's more of just they want to do it, man. I think females just really want to look a certain way. Because even females that's not trying to get into the industry got their little BBL.

50:21I think it's just a personal preference with that. But I understand what you're saying, too. Sometimes they feel like I got to look a certain way to be successful in this industry. We're told that. It's not something that we just feel. We're told that. I've been told by a label, hey, we'll get you a BBL. I don't need to do that, though. I'm a person that can say I don't need to do that. You said that shit. Put them on blast. This is the real report. I don't get fucked that, man. Who the fuck said that shit? That's crazy. What label said that shit? Labels is paying for BBLs. Labels is paying for BBLs.

50:54This is a while ago. This is a minute ago. This is a minute ago. But when you listen to these same females that were talking about talk, Nikki talked about it before, how she felt pressured to get it. Doshi talked about it recently, how she felt pressured to get it. Lotto, she felt pressured at a young age because everybody was talking about her body all over online and how she looks bad. But niggas are watching the video.

51:14Tony Yayo:Niggas are watching the video. I think even with like female battle rappers, like I think when a guy initially watches like, all right, this battle rapper is attractive. I might just watch it just because she's an attractive woman. Yeah. So, I mean, I feel like there's nothing wrong with that. It's not. Like you're going to watch SZA video because SZA is attractive. Yeah. Because though she's attractive, I feel like it's more pressure, but beautiful women. Yeah. As much as we don't like to admit it I always tell women this Our currency One of our highest currencies Is how we look How we look How we smell But the physicality of it Is our currency for us Because a man's not gonna be like A lot of women feel like Hey I have three degrees I have two houses I have five cars Why doesn't this man want me?

51:59No shout out to the women Because none of that shit matters No no that shit matters No no listen to what I'm saying now Shout out to the women That got them degrees We still We like women with morals too Yes We love you We like women with morals too

52:10Tony Yayo:And every woman wants to feel sexy. The whole thing is if you have morals, you know, but at the same time, I mean, I don't I don't want a, I don't want a, I don't want a, I don't want a, I don't want a, I don't want a, I show you all want a, and she has degrees. She has more degrees cards and everything. And she has looks, she bottom of the brow when it comes to looks, but everything else is top. And I show you woman B who has it more balanced. Y 'all go on woman B. You can't say that. I'm going to tell you why, because sometimes you can't, you can't judge a woman just on the outside. Cause you could be a baddie and have a stink.

52:39Tony Yayo:I'm telling you what general men say. You got to let me talk. You could be a baddie, right? You could look good on the inside, but you could be dark. You could look good on the outside, but you could be dark on the inside. So that don't mean nothing. So a guy would go for a girl that got her shit together that might be a six or seven because she got to potentially be better or smarter and got things going on instead of messing with a chick with no morals but look good. See, I said balanced. You can't say that. I said balanced. I said this one has way more accolades than looks And I said this one has it more balanced I didn't say she doesn't have accolades or morals I said it balances out more with her She's also attractive Alright I feel you but I feel like I feel like you never pressured to have a BBL Because for me with women it's confidence I can look at a woman and if you're a confident woman Like Sexy Red For instance What I like as an artist is she's confidence In her music You like my style?

53:38Tony Yayo:You like my voice? No matter what anybody says in the comments about her or any bad thing, she's confident. She don't look like she got a big BBL. She slim. But what I'm saying is she's confident about her shit. She might get crazy on shit, but the confidence. So a woman could be thick. She could be bigger than the other chick. But if she come in there with the confidence, nah, I'm jacking her. She's confident. She's more confident than this girl. This girl might have the looks, but she might not have the confidence or she might not have her swag or - She too, because Lizzo got confidence. She just don't be caring.

54:10And I respect that about Lizzo. I know she went on her Olympic run, but other than that, she always had confidence. I feel like she just like -

54:17Tony Yayo:I feel like, and then you got girls now taking away from the BBL. So the pressure's gone, because girls are like, I want to get rid of my BBLs now. Yeah. Because to me, you can get a BBL, right? And I don't like to talk about women on the show. We just got a woman on the show. But you just can't have the ant legs with it. Yeah. Like if it fit you, cool. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Them girls in Hollywood, they getting the best surgeons. If you go to the hood surgeon in apartments, girls used to do back. Because remember back when it first started, shout to K Slade. There was girls that died getting BBLs.

54:50Tony Yayo:So for me, I'm like, damn, your girl got to take a risk for her life. Nah, that shit don't make no sense to get a BBL. Because remember when it first started. Yeah, it was in hotel rooms with shots in the eyes. There you go. You didn't know what was in the shot. There you go. Just taking the risk. Matter of fact. We talked about that. Yeah, matter of fact, there was a girl that was like a model that got arrested way back then. She was giving that legal shit and a girl died off that shit. That shit don't. I don't think no surgery is worth your life. I think the way God made you, he made you and just whatever.

55:20Tony Yayo:I think you touched on it though. You said security. A lot of these women are taking it out now. It's not only because it looks bad. A lot of them are taking it out because they found the security in themselves to know that I never needed that shit. People like Blac Chyna who went in Years later took out all her fillers And all that shit that she put in her body that she never needed So it is A pressure there So when the label told you to get a BBL What made you second guess it? You was like fuck it I'm not doing it First of all I'm scared of needles So then you never fuck with the label? I'm scared of needles Throw them under the bus, what label?

55:51I can't I can't do that You scared of them? I'm scared of needles We don't want to get hit by a truck when she leave. I want to know who the fuck did that. What label said this shit, man? You got to go get a BBL. Wow. Another label also told me, hey. It was two labels? No, listen. No, this is not a BBL. This is years ago. Another label also told me. This is years ago.

56:17Tony Yayo:No, because you got to remember, years ago. This was before it was normal. This was back in the days. This was before it was normal that they told her that. That's what I'm trying to say. It wasn't a thing. She took them out. This label still around? Yeah. It wasn't a thing, they're not. I'm trying to get it. Yo, Vag, we need to pay some money for this information. Do you know how this shit, this is like a big investigation. The label told her to get a BBL. The label told her to get a BBL. Another label later on, like closer to more recently. Look, another label. Closer to more recently, right?

56:46I sat with the label and I'm talking, I'm all excited and shit. And they're like, hey, here's what you should do. If you really want to get signed to a label, you need to start paying for your views on YouTube. I'm like, huh? Like no, you pay for the views, you get it lit. We wanna see it lit already. That's the only way you're gonna get signed to this. That's what we do with our artists, we pay for the, I'm like shit, this is where the game is now. It's not, that's why I said it's not about just the talent. I don't think so man.

57:11Tony Yayo:No, it's a lot of that going on. There's a lot of that going on. Listen, YK Neese ain't got no um. I'm talking about people with machines behind them that you can't stop. But look, I'm just saying, for instance, look at YK Neese. She like a typical girl from the hood, she got hit records. She on that Belly Kush record, That shit is Come on bounce that ass like you're being dude That shit is out of here She ain't like got a BBL I think good music is just good music I mean when we looked at Lauryn Hill Lauryn Hill she wasn't like She never got naked or nothing but we thought Lauryn Hill is like in the whole thing But Lil' Kim you know she started that shit That's when the shift changed You seen that happen You all seen that in real time With the suspenders That started That's when girls started talking nasty.

57:55Tony Yayo:That's the start of it. Foxy, she had balls, but she wasn't getting - She wasn't. She was still drinking Dior and shit. It's mad pauses, so I don't want to - It's mad pauses. We can't play none of them. But that first album is like, when girls started talking nasty, you would say before Trina. Yep. And then, you know, now it's like - Who's going with Kim? Sex sells now. Like, niggas want to hear Sex and Wear. Niggas want Sukiyana. Yeah. I just hate that that's all they want to hear, because there's T-R-O-X, there's Rhapsody. There's a lot of great I think Rhapsody Them get their props Though Rhapsody Began her props So name some of the rappers Names Tiara Wack Rhapsody Oh what's this girl Leak And she's from Brooklyn too God damn it Leakley 47 I'm saying her name all wrong It's spelled kind of crazy But she has a lot of music On like NBA 2K And all that shit like that And she's from Brooklyn And she doesn't rap About her pussy She raps like One of the guys But she's just a girl But nowadays that you can't blame nobody for right like um not buying into nobody's music right i say that because there's so much exposure out there with this whole internet shit so if people not grabbing to the the rap cities like that and a couple other people you name who thought is that though that's just the i mean the people and the people grabbing more to sexy red right in the glow realers or whoever's talking ratchet that's just i guess what people want to hear yeah that's what I'm saying though, people are fucking stupid then.

59:20Oh damn. Stupid. How we stupid? All right, let me give you an example. Glowrilla, hold on, hold on. No, no, I'm gonna give you - Don't say Glowrilla, cause I like her music. Hold on, hold on. She doesn't rap just about pussy.

59:29Tony Yayo:The thing about Sexy Red, Sexy Red is like a female, we hate Gucci now, I don't hate Gucci, but he hate Gucci now. A female Gucci. So you don't hate Gucci? I don't hate nobody, I love everybody. Now listen, you know me? You might need that energy. I know he hate Gucci, I don't got nothing to do with that. He told on niggas, that's on his business, I'll stay out of it. But we know we don't do that. Street niggas don't condone that shit, right? We don't condone it. So if he wanna come up here and do an interview, you wouldn't do it? With Gucci Mane? Nah, I'm not doing an interview. Nah, he would never do it.

59:57So look, so what I'm saying, like,

59:59Tony Yayo:with Sexy Red, her producer, to me it's hun, take heed, it's like Drake in 40. Take heed on the beat. Once I know my man is on the beat, and she got her rhymes, and she's coming simple, it's not too complicated, it and she always just got style with it. She know how to rap. But when Tay Keed is with her, you know the beat. She got niggas bopping their head to her beat. And she might be saying shit for the females, but niggas is rocking. Lottos like that too. They'll just be spitting, but they beats be super hard. Glorilla too. I love Glorilla. Glorilla's content is versatile. See how she came out with that gospel record?

1:00:40this is not I don't want to hear that one

1:00:42Tony Yayo:but it was actually dope but it was actually dope though niggas ain't hear that one it was actually dope though, Kirk Franklin on the record we all know Kirk Franklin kind of a separate I'm sorry to say Kirk Franklin ain't an average church nigga me and Murda could go to the projects with a million dollars, give it away and that shit ain't get no press but if we go to the projects and get shot at a million times it's gonna get press I mean, that's how it goes. Negative shit spread faster than the industry. That's just how the industry is. But I just wanted to say, it's not like girls aren't working.

1:01:13Because they are working. No, I'm not saying that they're not working. I'm just saying like, who for is that, right? When people say like, oh, you know, the Rap Cities and other people, they're not getting their music. I be wanting to know because they do make dope music. Like, I think Rap City is dope. But like, who for is it that the people not grabbing to it more? Or they grabbing more to a sexy brand, a glow-rilla, a lotto. And people not grabbing to it more, because if that's the case, a person like Dolce couldn't do what she did if people didn't appreciate the lyricism of it. That's the fact.

1:01:43You know what I'm saying? But the thing about Dolce is,

1:01:46Tony Yayo:Dolce's making, she's lyrical, but she's making hit records. Skills pay the bills. You understand? That's what a wise man once told me. I do feel like niggas drag it. I don't feel like she's the female Kendrick. A niggas dragged it. You bugging. Dolce's the female Kendrick. You're fucking bugging. Now you on drugs. No, it's not happening. You're bugging, Bonnie. You know how long I've been listening to Kendrick and his type of work that he put in for one album? You think she did that? Don't she could flip her style in so many ways and the way she performs is ill. Yes, she's the female Kendrick to me over there too.

1:02:17Tony Yayo:She got to do more work to me. That's your opinion. How many Grammys she got? Look it up. Don't matter about that. She been in the game for how long? Hold on, because the accolades do matter. You think she at Kendrick level? You think she at Kendrick level, bro? Yes. Hell no. Yes. Kendrick just took over the world with one record. That's the female Kendra. With one record, he comes to the world. Come on, you're bugging. How many Grammys does though she have? Talking about - Two times - Hold on, Bonnie. Chill. Let's go with the facts. Stop screaming that - Two-time Grammy winner, right? Two-time Grammy winner, right?

1:02:47Tony Yayo:In how long she been in the game? Two to three years? Come on, bro. Nigga, I was top tier in one year. That's like me saying, oh, because I was top tier the first year. I'm the best one. No, that's not - It's because I got the push. I was there. I got the push, nigga. Let me tell you how the industry - I had the talent, but I also got the push. Once you get Grammys and Oscars and all that other shit, the world is yours, baby. That's how it works. But we're also talking about Kendrick. I don't know what you're talking about. Hold on. You're talking about Kendrick like he don't have Grammys. What are you talking about?

1:03:12Tony Yayo:He got Grammys too, but she has Grammys too. So I'm telling you that she's not the female Kendrick because she does not have what he has. She does not have the height of the reach that he has. She's going to get more Grammys. Two? Let me tell you something. To me right now, in rap, you know, Nicki and Cardi. Nicki, she's always in the Hall of Fame. but Doja Cat and Doshi are just different bro they different kind of I feel like those are that's the new regime Doja Doja Cat and Doshi like Doshi just won hold on what's the last album what's her first album she won two Grammys come on she had the push nigga you act like she just came out of nowhere oh me y 'all not acknowledging the push that she had y 'all not acknowledging the push that she had so they gonna say Exactly.

1:04:00Tony Yayo:So this is what I'm saying. It was promoted to us like that to be like that. But it was not her coming out here and doing the talent and grinding that Kendrick did to be the Kendrick. That's not what it was. It was his team saying she's the female version of him. And the world saying, OK, she had the skills. That's what I'm saying. She don't have skills. I just skills pay the bills. She made the hits to get Grammys. My daughter put me on a doshi years ago when she was performing in New York in small events. Shout to Ant the ladies man. He got tickets. That's Chris Brown and he messed with TD in them.

1:04:33Tony Yayo:Shout to Ty for punching him. I do agree with you. Now look, she was doing little venues. So my daughter put me on tour, maybe, because I don't know when Doshi came out, maybe four years ago, three years ago, sometime. She put me on tour, right? From my daughter going to small events to go see Doshi, to now I'm seeing all - She did a small venue. In New York. Not a good venue. Probably like 500 ,000. Wasn't no bullshit. It was a packed show. My daughter went, yo, Doshi. I'm like, damn, who's that? Dad, she's the next one. All right, cool. Cause your kids know. That's when that crazy song came out.

1:05:03Tony Yayo:Mm-hmm. Dad, she's the next one. Okay. And you be like, oh shit. So I'm seeing her from picking them up from like a House of Blues event, to all her on the stage with Grammys at it. Like that fast.

1:05:22That's what I'm saying. She's been grinding.

1:05:23Tony Yayo:She's been grinding. Her real, like, eyes on her. Was T.E.E. Yeah, but you know what it is, though? Sometimes you never know a person's story. So, look, she's been grinding since 2016. So, that's a grinding. She still started getting her just due about last year, maybe the year before. Correct? So, it ain't been an easy role for her. So, you might feel like she ain't been grinding like Kendrick, though, Bonnie. But she's been grinding. She's been playing her working. I did not say she has not been grinding. She has not grinded like Kendrick. Y 'all keep trying to twist it to me. She said she was grinding since 2016.

1:05:52that she has not granted like Kendrick. You mean since he made it in the industry to put more work in like the people. You said she still got more work to do before saying she's like. I can say she's a female a lot of people. I don't think she's a female Kendrick though.

1:06:06Tony Yayo:But look, you know why I say she's the female Kendrick? And I'm gonna tell you something. Cause a lot of people, fans come day by night, right? So there's a lot of rappers that we might not know. Like I was, we was talking to Charlamagne. He named four rappers that is his favorite. My daughter, she's a fan of BK The Ruler. You ever heard of BK The Ruler? BK The Ruler has a following. People love her. You ever heard of the rapper Lucky? The mix. Lucky has a following. There's people that have a cult following that's eating, making 100 ,000, 200 ,000, 300 ,000, touring House of Blues stores. They're famous too.

1:06:39Tony Yayo:They might not have the clout another person have, but they have a cult following. The thing with Doshi, Doshi has a cult following. She has fans. She's for the women You know what I mean? She love the women She'll go viral and say, I'm not fucking with niggas this month Or whatever she's saying She's down with TDE, which is with Kendrick Skills pay the bills She came with the whole gimmick She could dance, she can do records with JT She got style And she won two fucking Grammys From 2021 to now So I feel like it's more about There's a lot of artists that are not we would say mainstream, but they have a co-following.

1:07:21Tony Yayo:And I feel like she's mainstream and has a co-following. That's why I said she's like the female Kendrick. I agree with that. Do you know how global Kendrick is? Do you know how global though she is? She's not a global person. Of course she's not there. That's what I'm trying to say. She's not there yet. That's all I'm saying is she's not - Kendrick got what? Kendrick got 10 grand? You're acting like she did everything she needed to do when she's on the same playing field. All I'm just saying as a woman, all I'm just saying as a woman, to come out like she was on SoundCloud Rappers to 2016, to win them two Grammys, like as a new artist, a black woman in the game, you know what I'm saying?

1:07:53Tony Yayo:You signed with TDE. Like even with SZA, success is not guaranteed. There's plenty of niggas that have been on the label. Listen, I was in the studio with Dr. Dre and see mad niggas. Brooklyn was in there, Joe Beast, 50, they were with the game. There was 10 niggas on the label, maybe three or four, make it. So what I'm saying is what she did because It was like Okay Kendrick dropped J-Rock dropped, scissor dropped Now here comes the pressure for Doshi She came with it She's not, you're right, she's not where Kendrick's at But five Grammys She can get there Five Grammys, exact, that's all it Five Grammys later Ain't nothing he could do wrong Like that nigga gave the American anthem What about Drake He took that whole, he sang something that nigga that's what happened that's how you feel that is what happened that's why everybody still complain oh it was too harsh oh you ain't gonna feel like that when ice man drop i bet you your whole shit gonna change that's one thing yo listen listen this is what is battle rap and drake noticed that's why i don't even know why he ever even felt the way people say you lost or not because you part of the culture you know how this shit go you win some you lose some you won with meek the world was behind you you win some you lose some bro that's how it goes so i never felt like, okay, even if you lost that one, but you would come back.

1:09:10Tony Yayo:I feel like Drake, like... I don't think he was mad that people felt like he lost. I feel like he felt like it was the things that were said about him, the pedophile shit. I feel like he felt that was like, that wasn't true and people was running with it and people kept saying it, shit like that. I felt he was more mad about that, but I don't think he was disappointed in the L like that. Like, I think he respected the coach. Do you think when niggas go back and forth - I think he was more hurt by niggas flipping on him. But do you think that goes back and forth to battle rap because it's about getting the most disrespectful?

1:09:43This is what I'm saying. Don't jump in this shit if you're going to feel that way. Because however niggas feel, oh, I don't like the way you say nigga. And now everybody's talking about how they don't like you the way you say nigga. At the end of the day, you're Canadian. People could feel that way, but you can't be too emotional about it because this is a battle rap. He's doing what he's supposed to do. He's doing what he's supposed to do. Because he took low blows too on pause or on Kendrick talking about the baby. That's not your son. but it don't matter.

1:10:05Tony Yayo:It's not taking nothing from Kendrick, accolades, and him. I think it was good for hip-hop. Skills pay the bills. And shout out to Doja. I wanted to say I'm a big Doja Cat fan. She showed a range of versatility for a long time. So what you got coming out next, you know, next battle or whatever? Before we wrap it up on the real quick. I was taking a little retirement, but I got some people. I'm on Shane Ashley ass because he done got me started tonight. Oh, shit. He said her name three times. Shout out to Shane Ashley. Michael Myers or some shit. Shout out to Shane Ashley. That's right. Jazz the rapper.

1:10:34Please y 'all on the show, you know, DNA, you know. I need Reed Dollars. I got to finish out my Philly trilogy. Nick's just put that belt to ass. I beat Enes. I beat Enes too. Damn, you want to Reed Dollars? That's going to be enough. Shout out to Reed Dollars. He called me out a minute ago. Let's get that happening. So you beat Enes and MP. Uh-huh. And Shunny the Rapper and Henny Man. Trap. All four for the tournament. So who said you want next? Shayna Ashley? Shayna Ashley. Via This nigga right here He has to host it Or I'm not doing I'll do it I'll tell you I'll host it Shelf the chain of ashes I'm not doing it

1:11:11Tony Yayo:We love battle rap You know what I'm saying Who else I said Anderson Burris Okay He's really viral I like that he viral So I like doing shit With people that's viral And then you retire After like The next 10 battles Yeah Exactly When battle rappers say We retire We just mean We're gonna slow down Just so yeah You planning on having A meeting with Nick Cannon To figure out that the whole Wildin' Out business? It was so long ago, bro. God kinda handled it for me. Cause when I left, my episodes were syndicated cause COVID happened. So they kept playing my episodes over and over and I got paid off.

1:11:43I still get checks from those episodes. Oh, look at that. Well, next you still need some money. Shout to Wildin' Out, shout to Bonnie Godava.

1:11:50Tony Yayo:It's the Real Report show. Make sure y 'all like, share, subscribe. We fuck with all the battle rappers, males and the females. We gon' bring y 'all back. Yo, smack. Yo, get it back on YouTube. We out, man.

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Battle rap star Bonnie Godiva joins The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda for an unfiltered conversation on the current state of battle rap, viral disrespect in battles, and why the culture isn’t as massive as it once was. Bonnie breaks down her top male and female battle rappers, the biggest checks during the Caffeine era, battling men, and the wildest lines that helped make her one of the highest viewed female battle rappers ever. The crew also gets into her time on Wild ‘N Out with Nick Cannon, industry politics, female rap today, women being pressured into getting BBLs, the Drake vs. Kendrick battle, and whether artists like Doechii can reach Kendrick-level success. Yayo and Murda keep the jokes flying while Bonnie gives real insight into battle rap, fame, and surviving the entertainment industry.

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