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20:36Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, X was different than everybody else though. He wasn't a drug dealer. He was just a wild nigga. He wasn't like drug dealer talk. He wasn't pretty boy talk. But he could do what he had shit for the ladies. Rob Markman, He talked them stories. Rob Markman, Yeah. a guy's a robber too. No, he was. A guy's a robber. He was a robber. I used to be around, I heard stories actually just be chilling with a motherfucker rob somebody. I always I heard about that. Ex us to be a robber. And seeing how he performed in belly, you know, come on belly is like that, come on. That's classic. That's classic TV.

21:11Classic. Classic. But you know what the craziest part? and I got to give it to Hov because you know, me and Hov was good. He always shouted you out. He always saluted you. I noticed that too, always. That's my guy and this is the craziest part and never forget this but this is the most solidest shit you could do ever. So he was rapping and they was, you know, they was always compatible to each other. They were always like people. Talking about the Jay-Z and DMX battle, that legendary battle that people talk about? Yes, go ahead. But what happened was me and Jay had a rapport. Like him and X probably had, but I had a good rapport with Jay.

21:44so I fucked with him so I had X was at Def Jam but then he became the president of that Def Jam Ho was up there running the show so X was in the hole over there for about a good 8 million at least so I was like alright cool so shit wasn't working with it but he wound up being the president so I went back in and I was like yo Ho let me holler at you for a minute so me and him we got a good relationship he was like what's up I said you know what this ain't working out for him, boom, boom, boom. Let's see if we can switch and move him somewhere else so we can get him from over here because he don't really feel like comfortable here.

22:21Tony Yayo:At Def Jam at that point. Yeah, he didn't want to be at Def Jam at that point. So we talked back and forth from that point, but you know you can't really go because wherever you go, you owe all this money. You still owe this money. You still owe that eight million, definitely. That nigga wiped the whole shit out. He ain't have to pay nothing and let him go. Straight like that. That's true. Straight like that. Gotta salute that, definitely. That right there, that was probably 20 years ago, but I remember that. You know what I'm saying? So I gotta always say, I gotta give him that, because it could've went a different way if he didn't just say, all right, go ahead, man, fuck it, do what you gotta do.

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25:48Tony Yayo:It's crazy because y 'all had a roster. Talk about how the fuck y 'all got Eve because at that point, who we had? We had Lil' Kim. We had Foxy. Rob Markman, and it was just at that point I would say it's Eve. Rob Markman, Lil' Kim, Foxy and Eve at that time. Rob Markman, that time right there was like, those were the top three at that point. 100%. Rob Markman, And she was from Philly, right? Yeah, Eve was from Philly. Rob Markman, So how'd y 'all find her? You know what? I think Mark Byves was her manager, which was a good friend of somebody. But X had ran into Eve I think in California in the studio or something.

26:24Rob Markman, and he was like boom, boom, boom. and Dre had her. Dr. Dre had her at that time. Oh, wow. So she was signed to Dre and him. So boom, boom, well, they got him and then he came back and told me, yo, I got this girl, ba-da-da-da-da-da-da. I was like, all right, well, you know what I mean? I said, fuck it, fly in. So I flew in and she came in. I was like, well, she good. We can work with her. You know? And then she was signed to Dre and him. So we wound up figuring out how to figure-niggle it. Jimmy Alvin, we went through it and he was like, all right, fuck it, y 'all could take her. We did a deal with him, but he gave us Eve.

26:59And we had a deal with Interscope. Interscope, okay. Yeah, Rough Riders just do Interscope. But we still was with him, so he said, fucking y 'all, Dre couldn't do nothing with it, he didn't know how to work. So he's like, yeah, fucking about Dre. Well, you know how Dre is.

27:10Tony Yayo:You could do a whole two albums with Dre and that shit might not come out with Dre, man. Dre's real picky on this shit. I'm not feeling it today. Hmm, definitely. Forget about all that, just come back another year. So he's just a different type of, But we was able to break her. So they gave it to us and right at that time we had a little momentum and we just put it in and she worked. Rob Markman 1 - And I felt like back then the female rap had a little more substance too. Like Foxy, Kim and Eve had album albums for me. Rob Markman 1 - Well you had to really be talking that shit back then too to even make it.

27:43Rob Markman 1 - Yeah. Rob Markman 1 - You had to really -

27:45Tony Yayo:Rob Markman 1 - The hook had to be - Rob Markman 1 - Yeah. Rob Markman 1 - Remember Eve had - Rob Markman 1 - Yeah definitely. Rob Markman 1 - That was a hit. Rob Markman 1 - She's there. Rob Markman 1 - She's there. Rob Markman 1 - She's there. to a whole nother level with that Gristaphani shit. That crossed the over like crazy. That was the guitar went, damn, damn, damn. Think it was something like that. She talking about domestic violence? Yeah. Yeah, that was it. I know what you talking about. I know what records you talking about. We shot that on Dykeman, man. I remember that we shot that.

28:10That was the domestic violence.

28:13Tony Yayo:Yeah, Eve had a whole different style. She had the short hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice looking girl. Tattoos, had the paws. Remember that? A lot of people bit that tattoo too. The paws. Right here on the shot. Yeah, that's a fact. A lot of girls started doing that. That's a fact. Cause you got it, those were the three goals. Foxy, Kim, and I would say, yeah, Eve. Yup, those were - At that point. And at that time right there. Everybody, you know, you gotta have a, when you got a squad, you gotta break it up with one girl. You know, just if you got a team, you gotta put a girl there that's gonna break it up.

28:45So it feels good. If I got to put two verses here, I put up right in the middle and break it up. then the other people could come back after that. How was it dealing with all those personalities? Because I always thought that back in the days. Like, you got DMX, you got Eve, you got the locks. Like, how do you, like, deal with all those personalities? Well, you know, what it was is that with the artists I had, it was like, I was taking, I was, Adam, like, they was like little brothers to me. So I was already taking care of them, you know, boom, boom, we was already, they had shit, I was giving them things.

29:19You didn't have to sell them, But I was with them, I used to take them to school sometimes. Come pick them up and take them wherever and make sure they're good and give them whatever, throw them a bunch of sneakers, all that type of stuff. You know, the washing machine. You know.

29:33Tony Yayo:Rob Markman 1-2-1 Washing machine money. I like that one. That's the new one right there. You know that. Rob Markman 1-2-1 Washing machine money, man. Laundry mats. The laundry mats. We had a lot of laundry mats. Rob Markman 1-2-1 We had a lot of laundry mats. Of course. Of course. Rob Markman 1-2-1 But, you know, it was already all right. and I was just to make sure they was all right, you know, to make sure that they be able to go the other direction, not the direction we had to go through. So the goal is for us to go through it so they don't have to go through it. Right. So if you're not doing that, then you're feeding the purpose.

30:04So I was good with it because when I sat back and looked, all the artists, my nephew, Suess, Cass, Eve, all of them, I was able to point them in that direction.

30:16Tony Yayo:Right. not take him over here. You know, if you want to come, you can come. You know, when Pumpfake, I tell Swiss, get in the car then, nigga. We're going to get to it. No, Swiss was with the shit, too. He was with the shit. Because I remember one time we was in the studio and somebody owed Swiss some money. So that's when I got in the building, too. In the building. I remember somebody owed Swiss some money and he had an unfortunate trip in the basement in the Rough Riding studio. You know what I mean? The lights ain't on. Yeah, the lights wasn't on. The lights wasn't on. All that was done, Swiss.

30:44The lights wasn't on. Yeah, he got done dirty in that basement. Things happen. Things happen. You know?

30:52Tony Yayo:Another thing too is how did you feel for the No More Shiny Suits era when the Lox was leaving Diddy? How did, like, what was that about? And then they came to Rough Riders, cause that was a big switch. But you remember, No More Shiny Suits? I remember, yeah, it was going down at that time. I remember that. Yeah, they had, yeah, you know, what happened was, cause they wouldn't have got out the contract. Yeah, because Diddy ain't let nobody. Diddy ain't let nobody. Forget about that. I don't give a fuck about the shiny suits. I don't care about the shiny suits. Puff wasn't trying to let you out.

31:22No contract. I don't care what you're doing. But there's the trick. So back to the same thing. It's always kind of like the relationships I had at that time. So I had a rapport with Diddy. And his pops and my pops grew up together. They was best friends. So his pops got in a situation. They murdered him. And my pops grew up with him. So that's his best friend. So my pops was like, yo, make sure you know Puff's family. make sure you look after him boom boom boom boom because he know I'm in the streets both of them is walking the streets but I'm in the street so I had to make sure you know he was all right of course of course definitely definitely but he family so I just always knew that he was family and he looked out when I knew we needed things as well so he did no different from him and whole wall I came up with all of them so they all like family to me you know I'm saying so I I just knew that they point you in the right he was pointing me in the right thing he helped me out with a lot of things so we gotta make sure he's good.

32:14Even though he's not in the best place right this second, things happen, shit gonna happen to everybody, but that's where you gonna see where everybody's staying. I can't do nothing about it, he did whatever he do, he's family still to me, I can't do nothing about whatever.

32:26Tony Yayo:So you made the deal for no more shiny suits for them next to go to Rough Riders? We got him off of that and they got out of the shiny suits. And we wasn't into the shiny suits, so we just put them in regular dickies and do what you do. So that's what kind of helped them get to that point. And I was able to get them so they could be able to, the plan was to be able to do this and be able to do whatever they're going for the rest of their life. So like they doing now, they still relevant and they good. I was cool with that. You was in the studio for Niggas and Star or something? Yeah, you know I did all the albums so I was in there for mostly everything.

33:04I, Niggas and Star or something. What was the vibe? They always in the studio. That was that shit. This is classic shit for the coach. I know he wasn't dead. I wasn't dead for that one. I wasn't dead for that one. You know who was in there? Because this is before, nobody had a deal when I had this song. This song, nobody had a deal. That's crazy for real.

33:22Tony Yayo:Oh, nobody was sound at that point when they got a deal? Nobody had a deal at this time. Wow, you see? This is a good question right here. So the crazy part is that we was in the studio, so I used to be in the studio in Yonkers. That's where the locks and all them from, the X-Long, they from, we had a studio. Right. So we had the Lox, what was on it? Lox, Mace, Mace, X. I think it was all of them right there, the Lox. Yeah, it was the Lox, Mace, and X. Yep, yep, all of them. So they used to just be in the studio, and we just, we wound up doing that song. I think Grease did that beat. Probably was Grease did that beat, if I'm not mistaken.

34:01But we just did that, they was all in, and it just, I think Styles came up with the hook. Look at that Styles or something. Legendary for that. Yeah. So it was easy to talk about.

34:11Tony Yayo:That is a classic record. Yeah. Now I'm going to ask you, who you think got the best verse on it? Who do you think got the best? I can't, back then? Back then they all smoked that to me man. You know, at the end of the, see the best is always the last. Yeah. So they'll save that. That's how I used to be back then. We'll save the best for last. That's how you do it. Back in the year. You put last because if I put the best verse, they don't got to listen to nobody else. Scott. What you hearing? Tell the niggas like a boss. Nah, DMX went crazy. You know what a lot of people don't know? A lot of Rough Riders artists used to get a lot of, me myself, get lines from D.

34:50D was a real slick talker. So, if you just sitting in the studio with D, right, and you just there all day, he gonna say so much shit that you gonna wind up putting one of them lines in your bars. Dead serious. You gonna, some shit he say, you gonna put it in your music. Man, I'm still open.

35:07Tony Yayo:He said nobody was signed when they made that record. I'm thinking about that. That is crazy. Because they were sounding mad hungry on that shit. Yeah, they didn't. Nobody probably had a deal at that time. For sure. They went to Puff and them and tried to work out over there. They didn't work. So I was able to get them back. So I had to give Puff some money. I think we had to give them like$3 million to get them back. So I wound up giving them$3 million, took them back. But see, for me, they like little brothers to me. So I was always thinking of the future for them. Like, if I got to get them out of their situation so they could do whatever they got to do so they could be able to live for the rest of their life and do what they doing now.

35:48But one move could fuck them up. So I seen that it's probably not going to work. He probably ain't into them like he should be. He's more into Mace. He was more into Mace at that time. Got you. So let me just get them back and try to figure out the next move. and we tried to figure out how to break them over here at Interscope. So he wound up, me and Puff was good, so he did me a favor too. It wasn't a little favor, but it was a favor. It cost something, but it's all good. It worked though, it worked.

36:18Tony Yayo:Everybody was sparring on that record, niggas done started. When you really think about it, Mace, Jada, Styles, Sheet. That was Murda Mace back then. Yeah, Murda Mace. Rob Markman, X last verse, like he said, the beat changed up and everything. The beat changed and shit started sounding. Don't come everywhere with no bullshit. The bullshit. When I wet shit up, shit like a bullshit. The bullshit. Fuck what you heard. What you hear. Miss Dawkins didn't get - Miss Dawkins wants to hear it. Yeah. See if your hardest niggas flip when I start a bunch of shit. That's crazy. My boy, Minda McCann just did a video from one of the X records.

36:55He just did a video. It's so classic, man.

36:56Tony Yayo:Yo, that time in hip hop to me was just so special. I remember me and 50 opening up for you guys, for Cash Money and Rough Riders. Rob Markman - Was it in Queens? Rob Markman - No, we was on the tour. Rob Markman - On the tour. Rob Markman - Oh, okay, okay, okay. Rob Markman - At that point, you probably didn't know who we was, but Cash Money and Rough Riders was fucking on tour together. I remember being on that tour. We was the opening act on 50 Outta Rock. Rob Markman - Look at that. Rob Markman - So I've been seeing nigga stars and I'm like, yo, this shit is crazy. like just the whole life.

37:25Tony Yayo:Niggas, like their tours, that was classical time because it wasn't no Instagram. You ain't going to see DMX unless you see DMX on the stage. You ain't going to see Styles, Swizz Beats, EVE, nobody unless you see them at the event. It was more exclusive. It was even a record. Niggas didn't start or something. Remember when that shit came out, that album? Rob Markman Yeah, it was. It was. Rob Markman And they kept it the last song on the album for purpose. I don't know why. I was like, you would think a nigga would've started the album with that shit. Rob Markman - And it was like when the whole East Coast, West Coast thing was like, so that record just felt like, ooh.

38:00So it felt like, it felt dangerous. Rob Markman - Yeah, yeah. Rob Markman - It was a good one. Rob Markman - It was a good one. Rob Markman - It was a good one. Rob Markman - You know what the crazy is? Because I'm just thinking a couple of things because I'm here and I got Neil right here with me. So I remember 50 when he first came. So when 50 first came out, you know, we were a little, as I said. So they brought 50s music to me and I was in the hood. They was like, yo, boom, what guy said? I was like, let me hear it. So that's when he was, he was, that's when he was dissing - How to Rob, how to Rob.

38:34Yeah, was it how to Rob? He was just dissing everybody, talking crazy about everybody. Was that one?

38:39Tony Yayo:With the mad rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How to Rob, that's how to Rob. So I'm listening, I'm listening. So I'm like, all right, yeah, that's what's up. Then I sat and thought for him, I said, oh, he's going a little too hard. We might have to kill a couple of niggas. I said, this ain't going too hard. Let me fall back for two seconds. Rob Markman - Listen, he got the mad rapper on it. It was a comical record, How to Rob. But back then, you know how it was. Back then, niggas, like New York, you couldn't, like New York wasn't just letting niggas come to New York and get on radio. It was like, this was New York.

39:13Tony Yayo:Nah, New York was totally different back then. Classic. Everything was exclusive. Oh, so they brought you the music on something like you're trying to get you. No, I think I'm trying to remember the nigga that bought me because he was good. One of my people that was good from out there. I think it was Prince. I'm trying to remember. Was it a kid? It was a prince. A guy named Prince. Somebody got the nigga name, but he brought it to my man in the hood. It was like, yo, here. Boom. He was talking about 50. I was like, all right. And then he was talking crazy. And I was like, nah, we're going to want to kill the niggas.

39:44I'm going to pass on this one. it's gonna be too much drop I already know what's getting ready definitely I'm robbed

39:52Tony Yayo:niggas was hungry definitely niggas still hungry so you gotta you gotta know you I know what I already know what type of niggas I got with me definitely so when you in position and you gotta remember this when you in position and you the head of a you gotta make sure you protect your people cause they gonna go if you tell them for sure so I gotta say nah I'm good. Not that I ain't worrying about what it's going to be. I'm worrying about niggas going to jail getting kicked. So it's my job to say nah it ain't that serious we're going to have to pass. So you got to make a rational decision instead of making an irrational decision.

40:32You know what I'm saying? So if you're the head of any type of situation you got to make the right decisions for everybody not just for yourself. I'm a getaway. I just don't know if all I'm going to get away. Got you. So since then, if all my niggas can't get away, I don't do it. I be like, I don't get there. Got you. The plan don't look like we all getting away. I'm probably gonna get away, you probably gonna get away, but y 'all might not get away. So you know what? Let's don't do it till we all can get away. So you gotta think like that and that's just the way it always been for me. I gotta keep it the way I always kept it with my people.

41:04Like I still fuck with my same people. You see my nigga? Of course, nah, of course. All the day ones. You brought all the day ones through. I'm like, all the day ones still around. Yeah, definitely. Look, we got felonies together, man. You talk about... Nah, real shit. You ain't a bullfucking joke. Real shit. But these are the people that helped you on your journey to get there. So if anybody don't go astray and they don't play themselves, you know, you try to help them until they get to whatever it is they're doing. So my job is to come back and help whoever that's worthy of helping. You know what I'm saying?

41:34Definitely. So I can't help all niggas. Some niggas ain't on the same page or the same direction I'm going right now. So I can give you advice, I got to keep it moving, you know? And that's just what it is. But I just never felt like I can't fuck with my people. It don't matter how much money you give me, I'm already in. Definitely. You know, I can't say, oh, I don't fuck with a nigga. I parked my car in the same spot. I go right back to my same block I just left there. You got the footage I just left the block? Same block. Yeah, they do their podcast. I did the podcast before. I pulled up on the block.

42:10Of course, I pulled up on the block. I pulled up on the block. I pulled up. You know I pulled up on my guy. Come on, man. That's why I'm here. Look, I ain't gotta talk long to my nigga. I said, look, Murdoch, I'm outside. I don't know if you're gonna be safe. He said, I'll be right there. Okay, what's what I'm talking about? Come on, man. Come on, man.

42:26Tony Yayo:10 grand and some guns. That's right, nigga. Being on the run. A nigga on the run. Yo, this funny guy right here. Cause he be saying 10 grand. 10 grand and some guns. Because that helped me to this day, right? I just did a deal, right? Shout out to Empire, shout out to Gazi and Nima. I just did a deal for seven figures, right? I'm about to put out some new music and all that. But it be shit like that for me grinding from that young, fucking with y 'all, that I'm able to even do deals like that to this day. Because I know how to move, just sitting back, watching the game. And I was so appreciative.

42:59I'm on the run. Y 'all gave me so much hope, because I don't even know what my life would have turned out to be. Honestly, I'm on the run. I'm motherfucking shooting people out there in Eastern York. It's all crazy. All type of shootouts with the police. It's statute of limitations on that shit now. But 75th Precinct was so crooked. So I don't even know how nigga life would have really turned out. So me even going up to y 'all, spitting for y 'all, and y 'all really embracing me and feeling me at that time. Changed your life. And giving me some money to go buy some work and some guns to make sure me and my niggas is good.

43:27It don't get no realer than that, D. It don't get no realer than that, D. It don't get no realer than that, D. No realer, nigga. 10 grand, you gonna buy some good work with that. 10 grand guns? I was a puppy, nigga. I was a puppy. You know what I'm saying? So shit, nigga. You was hungry though.

43:41Tony Yayo:And then you got the Rough Riders co-sign on top of that. One of the biggest brands in the world. Come on, man. He's my guy. What's your craziest tour experience? Because I remember the Cash Money Rough Rider tour, and I remember 50 B in the opening act, How to Rob. You was two. You didn't know who we was back then. That's crazy. D &M was properties. He said. I don't even, you know, I be there, but I don't be there mentally. I can fuck with it. Cause you know, we're on tour and it's just, we're blessed to be there and do this. But at the end of the day, that tour was, you know, all we did, cause we did a Cash Money tour and we did a Rock and Roll.

44:19The one with Rock and Roll. The whole year, the whole Rock and Roll, that's right. And tours was good, but you know, this is, I see Hov talking about this too. So him and X battled one time, right? This before even one of them had a deal. Nobody had a deal.

44:34Tony Yayo:Yeah, I remember that battle was viral. Yeah. It's in the Bronx. It's in the Bronx. But the shit was like this. It wasn't really supposed to be a battle. Because what happened was my man, Mac, from my building called me and was like, yo, boom, boom, boom, boom, I'm over here battling, da, da, da. It was original flavors in Harlem Nights, which Dame was managing one of them, and my man, Mac, was managing. So they - About the original Flavors group that Hove was in the time. He was in the group. So he was just in the group. So he wasn't battling. It was all the other niggas battling. So he was on the side.

45:07So my man Mac called me one time. He was like, yo, D, where you at? Come through. I'm having a battle. And I just happened to have X with me that one time. And I was like, all right, I'll be over there. So we shot over to the Bronx. And we went over there. And I just had - X was just with me. He was standing over there. They was over there. X wasn't even involved. So they battling, battling, battling. so they kind of didn't get too far. So they didn't even have a plan. So he already knew that none of them could fuck with Hov. That would be the end of it. That would be crushing everything at that moment.

45:37Right. So he already had Hov in the cut. So after that shit got stuck, he was like, you know what? They put Hov on the table. But mind you, X wasn't there to battle. So when he put Hov on the table, I told my nigga Mac. Mac was like, well, I said, put X on the table. Fuck. I put X on the table. So, all of them was going back and forth, back and forth, and they both was nice. You know what I'm saying? So, it wasn't like shit. We was in there for about two hours probably, back and forth.

46:07Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Oh, they was going back and forth for two hours? Rob Markman - Yeah, you could find that battle. That battle was like a big thing. DMX, J. Rob Markman - That was crazy. Rob Markman - You could find that. That was dope. Rob Markman - Classic time. Rob Markman - We wound up not recording it at that moment when brother wound up telling nigga, turn the cameras off, nigga. Rob Markman - Oh shit. Rob Markman - We got too much going on right now. Rob Markman - Look at why. Oh shit. That was why Paul, why that was why. I was like, you turn the camera off, nigga. We ain't in the clear yet.

46:32So he turned it off so we didn't get to record it.

46:35Tony Yayo:But there was a cipher with Jay and DMX, no? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They still kept doing what they did. Yeah, a little cipher. You talking about as far as the battle? The battle, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just turn the camera off, whatever you do. Oh, man, we could have sold that for a couple of millions. He better believe it. It's okay. you know we would have got the money but we probably be still up in uh attica just getting it released no i'm good you're all right turn that mother fuck off for two seconds we got other going on you talking about rap we on the run facts facts because because x what was that show that he did what was what's the show editing that x did was it was it the biggest like the biggest show like it's like 80 000 or something like way back oh I'm trying to figure out the...

47:22What's the name?

47:24Tony Yayo:Was it Woodstock? Woodstock. I think it was Woodstock, yes. That was like... Yes, yes. Woodstock. Like just people gotta understand the gold diamond, that means if y 'all don't know out there, I know a lot of people know 10 million and better. And for him, that right there was like a classic hip hop performance. It's like X crossed over just with a black crowd. He had a big white crowd. Yeah, definitely. Also, and then how did he transition to the acting? You know that nigga, actually, he was just a good actor, you know what I'm saying? I guess he must have done that on his own in his room, but they wound up liking him because when you see him perform and his energy, then he wound up reading a couple of scripts and they was like, oh shit, okay, come on, let's try him.

48:06Give him a try and it worked. I think one of the main ones was the belly with him and Nas. That was like -

48:11Tony Yayo:The belly was classic. Classic. Classic. Count that money! Rest in peace, Aliyah. Count that money! Rob Markman, him and Aaliyah had a classic movie too. They had a classic one. Rob Markman, but it's to me, Belly had the most, he was the star of Belly. Rob Markman, Of course, he turned it up. Rob Markman, you know what I mean? That nigga was bugging in Belly. Nigga would like that shit. Take a red light. Dude, I won. Rob Markman, that nigga was like the most animated crazy rapper, bro. When you really think about it. Rob Markman, nah, X was that nigga, man. Rob Markman, yeah, X just knew, you know, he just acted.

48:42Some niggas know how to act, you know what I'm saying? So he was a good actor. Plus, you know, we kept all them niggas grounded. Like, you know what I'm saying? Stunting and fronting and all that niggas. That's not what we're doing. Definitely. I always try to get my artists and they don't get in the shit. Because the shit going to escalate. If it escalate, you might not have a career. Just know that. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Don't think that this is going to end always good. So try to alleviate the bullshit. Because it's definitely going to go where you don't want it to go. You don't got no control after a moment.

49:12Excuse me. We're going to figure this out. So you try not to even create them situations. I don't even want no problems because I know how to shit in. I just don't even want no problems. We ain't doing that. That's the leader. It's not that serious. We're going to keep it moving. That's not worth us. Or you going to jail or him going to jail. It's just not worth it. So you got to stay positive and keep moving. When it ain't positive, I can't even fuck with him at this point. Definitely.

49:36Tony Yayo:So what's the future for the brand? I know y 'all got clothes. Y 'all got motorcycle fucking chapters. I know there's probably a lot of unreleased DMX music I know there's a lot The way he write music You know with X What was I just doing with X I just spoke with Desiree which is His exodus mother His baby mother And she's doing something cause she owns the rights to everything So we just Trying to They trying to do a series with him on something So she's handling that Putting something together with X and we working on some new music with the label and everything over there. My brother and I'm hearing that, but I hear most of my podcast shit.

50:18I'm on that right this second. The block talking. I'll shout it out. I'll shout you, nigga. Of course. I know what's going on, man. You had everybody on the motherfucking block talk. I gotta get up on there. We gotta go on there. We're gonna come on there together, man. We're gonna pause. I'm gonna test your ability, man. You can't talk crazy because if you ain't coming out this... Murph pulled right up. Look, niggas, I don't know who gonna come around. I wanna be there man. I wanna let, let me come over there right after. I said murder, I don't know, he said I'll be right there. Jump off, I said, that's what I'm talking about man.

50:47You know how we roll. I watched it, I think I seen Birdman come there. A lot of people came and showed up. It's what it is, you know what I'm saying? Like if you ain't comfortable, don't come.

50:59Tony Yayo:For sure. If you ain't comfortable, don't come. I can't guarantee you a nigga ain't gonna run up on you, cause it ain't like that. I don't got no security or nothing out there. I just got niggas out there. Definitely And you know If you ain't what you say You all don't come I'm telling you Just do that for yourself Definitely You know what I wanted To ask you too Just because me knowing you Right how much Because shit you call me Every time you see me Doing something good Like yo my nigga I see you Good shit Yeah yeah yeah That's what the fuck I'm talking about right How did you feel When at the verses Like just seeing The locks handle their business Like how did that How did that make you feel Like knowing like These my young pups And they handled their business You know what I was sitting there But I was down on stage but what happened was you know you get to watch see them grow that's the big part when you get to see people grow and see them become well turn from boys to men so when you get to see them they men so I got the chance to watch them grow and become to be good men you know I'm saying and they know you know they come up on the real shit so they know like look don't do that that ain't gonna stick right don't do that if you want to go away so they not they know they they don't do the shit like talking about niggas and all that clown shit.

52:07That's not probably what they're gonna do because even though they're grown, they're still gonna get a call like, what's up, what's that all about, my nigga? I mean, you still gotta answer to a degree. You know what I'm saying? I ain't in your everyday life, but when it gets out of hand and shit might escalate, you need to stop that so it don't go no further. Or you gotta be wise about your battles or who you want to beef with over dumb shit. That ain't worth beefing over Lina that long. It's not that serious. Facts. It's all good. You know, family, everybody do what they do. They grow men and as long as you know how to count, that's all that matters.

52:47Count that motherfucking money, nigga, right? Count that money. Yeah, nigga. You're a nigga come back talking about, yeah, I'd be like, yeah, so what is it? Count it again.

52:56Tony Yayo:Facts. Facts. Talking about, I think, nigga talking about, yeah, how much is that a year? I think it's 10 count it again count it again count that money tell them to go back count that over man count it again real shit it's a blessing for me to be able to be here and fuck with y 'all definitely you appreciate you coming out today I see what y 'all niggas did too though on that plane. Oh, man. Go ahead. Go ahead, D. Go ahead. Go ahead, D. Go ahead, D. It wasn't the wrong thing. It was self-defense. It was self-defense. You know what I mean? But you know what? You know what? Because I'm good. I'm good with everybody.

53:44I'm good with y 'all. I'm good with Irv. I'm good with Prince. I'm good with Cream. I'm good with everybody. You know what I'm saying? So we just got to know as black people that we can't crash out over dumb shit. Of course, man. Because it ain't that serious because if it was that serious For me, look, that's why I don't get a beef because ain't nobody going to be around too long talking about no beef 20 years. I ain't... I'm uncomfortable. Definitely. But it's just disagreements and little things here and there. So we've run into little situations like that, but we don't want to fuck up the money.

54:24Of course, man. Of course we can't fuck up the money, man. Of course. Can't fuck up the money. Because we play ourself and we be stuck with - I almost had a flashback though, D. I almost had a flashback. I'm glad you flashback in. Yeah, now yes, correct. Flashback in. I almost had a flashback. Flashback in. Yeah, I was about to stab. Flashback in motherfuckers. I almost about to go straight to East New York. Get one of the quarter. Flashback in, motherfucker. Almost, man. But it was all - Flashback in, man. We made the right decision.

54:48Tony Yayo:Nah, he dropped plenty of jewels, man. Appreciate you coming to us today. We appreciate your brother's house. Love, man. Love, dude. Rough Riders in the fucking building. Rest in peace, DMX. You know the vibes, man. You know the vibes. Yeah. Yeah. What up? Blackout. Yeah.

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