The Real Report - Fat Joe on beefing with 50 Cent & Jay-Z, Terror Squad TS sneaker release, Big Pun’s legacy, & Organized Rhyme

23:20First day of school, started beating niggas up, robbing niggas. First day of school, the first time the Bronx, uptown, crosstown, this, the 5 %ers, I don't give a fuck who it was. The first time you laid eyes on him, he was putting in that work. Every day after that, we was just being very abusive. Because I got bullied and I was in circumstance of becoming to hurt people, hurt people. So I start hurting dudes. What you don't understand about the school is, everybody I robbed in there knew I had a hundred niggas outside.

23:53Tony Yayo:Got you. I am the leader. Yeah, because your project's right across the street. You had a reputation already. They know. It's like, damn, we right in this too. So one day I'm bored to death. like just bored out of you know how many you want to grab the whole gym over there man my projects where i have a party and there's a thousand people in the party and i would just take the equipment and break the shit and say party over niggas all crack why yo it's over nigga party's over done deal but why would you everybody do that i was i was because he was the size of a linebacker I was bad. So what I'm trying to tell you is that when I told everybody I was bored to death and I'm looking at the gym class and I'm just like, ah, fucking, I'm robbing everybody.

24:39Yo, help me with the wall. Help me with your stuff. So you had a bag? No, I couldn't even carry the shit. How about I'm too fat to wear it? Everybody I robbed. What was you putting the shit in? Everybody in my life I was robbing at that age. I had to give it to you. Yo, Tony, I was robbing niggas for no reason. They got a leather bomb with this and then I give it to my man because I can't even fit it. I told the legendary story. I don't know where, but I robbed this one day. A fat kid came. He had the chocolate Sherlin on. Fat kid. He came to school. He was like, huh? He was like, huh? I was like, take this shit off now, right?

25:26I got the chocolate. And I was a bum. I'm a young kid. I'm a bum. I'm talking about a bum. And so I got the chocolate, Shirley, man. I go back home. I finally got the first fly shit I ever had in my life. Now, all you hear is like about, I got home three o 'clock, about four o 'clock. You just hear a car go, ah! Another one, ah! Another one, ah! another one, er, another one, er, another one, er. It was like 10 errs in a row, right? I look out the window. My man Opie says, yo, crack.

26:05Come down and bring the Sherlin. I said, holy shit. That's crazy. But you know, Opie saved my life three, four times. I come down with the Sherilyn and then the guy was, I don't even want to say his name because lately they've been doing documentaries about him. He's beyond, he was way older than me or whatever. He said, yo, from now on, you looking, he's some me. Like, you know, from now on, you looking out for my brother. I said, no problem. Little niggas start coming to school, smirking at me and acting like I was pussy and all that. Like he was walking it in. Nobody bothered him. I was out of my league.

26:49I was 13, 14 years old. It was the only time I caught something that fit.

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28:52I'm still scared. I never knew that. I flew yesterday, scared to death. So let me tell you a story that happened to me yesterday. I'm in St. Louis. The plane, so I got to do Jay-Z's documentary, which is stupid though. You're going to love it. and then Bryson Tiller brought me out in Madison Square Garden it's his show so I had to get back to the town I'm in St. Louis and the fucking plane breaks down it was about to take off thank God they come back stay outside the plane you go back on 25 minutes later pulls off some other shit yo you know and they telling you this is an old plane you know Sometimes this happens, goes back.

29:38Shit happened three times. Shit is like 2.30. We been there since eight o 'clock in the morning. So I tell my, what you call a travel agent? I'm like, yo, Your Honor, get me on anything. So she says, only one flight available. Lands in New York at 4.30. Jay-Z shit was at six. She said, but it's only two coach tickets. I said, give me the kit. Give me, I'm going coach. I'm going coach. We run through the whole terminal. I walk in the plane. This is the first time. I've been a coach one time in my life. I actually pray. It's one of my prayers. Like, God, you know, forgive me. Always pray before a flight.

30:17No, no, I pray for first class. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo, murder. It's bad for you. Because he go, yeah, I always pray before the class. He said first class. No, no. I said, no, I prayed for first class. Every day. I did it today. Even when I don't fly. I do not want to be coach. The one time I sat coach, it was that Beverly Hillbillies. Little kids was climbing on my shoulder and shit, throwing potato chips, smacking me. I'm trying to get a little fake sleep. And potato chips, like, oh, sorry, sir. He's just kicking the back of the chair.

30:55Tony Yayo:Pull up. I said, please. Me and Murda always stunt when that's time. First class passengers, we the only two niggas. Excuse me. Here we go. Excuse me, excuse me. We up there watching TV. Got our dinner and everything. Sometimes they get mad when you up there, right? You can feel it. People get tight. They do. They be tight when you can - I would be tight too. You got your soda already, TV. I ain't even talking about it. I'm just talking about other - I'm just talking about the basketball nigga going to coach. I felt so bad for Sean Lemister. You know I tore his in the Golden State. Let me explain something to you.

31:21It just, it could have been a situation like Fat Joe. He got money. Copy, copy. So I got, I'm doing like the walk of shame. You know how you - You gotta walk to coach now. You fucking bitch in the hotel. She got to walk out in the morning, walk in shape. I'm walking through like, Bust the Rhyme just sitting first class. Now I'm like, the only time I ever been coaching my life, Bust sees me on. This is out of the front. That's hilarious. I cannot make that up. That's hilarious. This is a humble walk like you never seen. As I'm walking to the coach, DJ Scratchitor gets up. He says, yo, Crack, what's up?

32:00He's first class. He said, what happened? I said, it's a long story, man. I got to get to New York. I'm sitting back there. He said, you can't sit back there. I said, I got to sit back there. I got to get to New York. He was like, you have to take my seat. I said, yo, Scratch. I didn't want to fight with him. I said, Scratch. He was like, the Don don't sit in the back. You got to take my seat. Look at that.

32:27Tony Yayo:Shout to Scratch. That's real. Look at the prayers was answered, man. The prayers. God is good. Yo, God. Yo, guys. When I tell you. You know why? Because I'm saying that. Nah, because God makes you think. I'm saying that. How did the story come out of Fat Joe not being in coach? Because I was just saying, them pictures would have been online. The man just said, the man just said, yo, Joe, you in Lear Jets, you in Romania, you over here. Bro. God was like I feel like God was like yo he gotta be humble for a second I don't know what it was and then man he said here you go I couldn't fucking believe it I sat down in the chair like you gotta think about this Scratch It Toe and Buster was up there I prayed for first class I'm humble I prayed for first class I'm a four chicken wing french fry I'm good.

33:25I don't need Mr. Chow and all that all day.

33:28Tony Yayo:I'm too good. Rob Markman, Coach, like I said, I got my soda already. Buster done had his soda scratcher tore. He had their sodas already. Buster looked at me and smiled and said, Buster looked at me and said, yo, he's a great guy. He's a great guy scratcher. Rob Markman, Yo, that's hilarious. I said, so I owe him. Rob Markman, Damn. Rob Markman, Like I don't even know how to explain it to you. I got to call bus after this because I've been busy all day and ask him what does Scratch love? Whatever he loves, I got to get it to him. Got to look out for him. That's a fact. Got to look out for him.

33:59Now Joe, whatever he loves.

34:01Tony Yayo:Now Joe, I want to talk about the business side of Fat Joe. Meaning like 50s had his own brand, Jay-Z, you. 50s and don't get celebrated or nothing. I'm not just saying that for y 'all. I'm saying that anywhere I go. Right. You know, because when I was a kid, there was a guy named Aaron Spelling. Aaron Spelling was making shows. I don't know what it was. Don't quote me, guys, but say Three's Company, whatever. And when that man got married, they would have helicopters over his house. Like, it was a big deal. Like, when you bought the tabloids, Aaron Spelling was at 50 Cent, the new Aaron Spelling.

34:42Facts. He got shows all over. All over. Y 'all acting. Rob Markman, what's wrong with society today, 2026, is they act like this is regular shit. Like dudes is like, this is regular shit. Like, oh, okay. Rob Markman, I could do that if I wanted to too. Rob Markman, Yeah, yeah. Rob Markman, No big deal. This is a big deal what's going on out here. Rob Markman, Yes. Rob Markman, Man come from the streets, from nothing. Rob Markman, 13, 14 years going on now. Rob Markman, I can't tell you. Rob Markman, Consistent.

35:10Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, But when I say the business side, right? Rob Markman, Yeah. Rob Markman, Like you took off as an artist. In classic eras of hip hop, everybody respects you from the OGs to the game to the new guys in the game. But when we fast forward to Terror Squad, you got Kool and Dre, you got Punn. Punn was another heavy hitter from the Bronx. He's legendary. He's in the top 10, top five kind of category of lyrics, you and him. How did the Punn situation come in? What made you want to even do Terror Squad? How'd you think of the name? Rob Markman I've always been a boss. I've been, since I've been 14, I've been paying for dinner for 20 guys.

35:52Sounds like Cap. What do y 'all want me to do? No, I'm just saying, you said 14. Since I was 14. What you want me to do? What you want me to do, man? Since I've been 14, I've been paying for dinner. What? I've been the boss my whole life. My whole life. You know my, my, you know what my main job was? Like when my brother and them got indicted, if I ain't changed to rap and I was in the indictment, we used to bail niggas out. I bailed the nigga out yesterday for 30 grand. I'm not lying to you. That's what I do. Crackheads, real niggas. They knew El Gordo was back there. You out. You got a lawyer.

36:34You got bailed. This is when you could pay cash under any name. Yo, John Wilkinson. But you know you ain't coming back for the bail money. Right? So I always been that type of guy, always been the boss. And when I came in the game, they was talking with slick words, but I always knew, as soon as I figured out what they was talking about, I was like, oh, I could do this. I want to be your boss.

36:57Tony Yayo:Rob Markman How did you pick the artist? Because come on, you got Big Pun, you got Remy, you got Tony Sunshine, you got the producers, Kool and Dre. Rob Markman - People think my best attribute is picking beats, which I'm really good at. Rob Markman - I agree with that. Rob Markman - That's a fact, because this new album, not to cut your love, but the new album, The Beat Selection. Rob Markman - I seen you rocking today. Rob Markman - Of course. Rob Markman - Of course. Rob Markman - Beat Selection. Rob Markman - Organize rhyme, baby. Rob Markman - I pick out the beats, Organize rhyme. Rob Markman - I'm a good beat picker, but I'm more of a person.

37:30Rob Markman - Now, how do you see fat? Pun. How do you see Big Pun outside of a bodega and you like, I'm going to make this nigga star? Pun was from Forrest too or no? No, he was from the other side. He was from like Soundview. Oh, Soundview side. Sheldon or something. Yeah, yeah, Sheldon.

37:46Tony Yayo:Free my man CB, man. You know, he was from over there. And so when I come out the bodega, he's rapping. The point is I pick talent. Whether it's Ramp, whether it's Pun, whether it's Cool and Dre, whether Whether it's Khaled. Yeah. Whether it's like, you know, I pick talent. I could see somebody being a star. No matter how your gear is. That's hard. Well, how'd you meet, Pony? You was on the block in Forest? I was coming out the bodega. I was in Forest. I was closing up Jealous One's Envy. And it was my last day of studio to finish the album. Shout out to Elias, Domingo, everybody who played a part of that.

38:27And I come out the bodega with a Diet Pepsi and they freestyling. And the fat niggas say, yo, let me go. Let me go, twin. And I believe Pundit invented the word twin. He was. He called you twin back then? No, no. He told his man's twin. Okay, okay, okay. You know the fuck, niggas. You know what I'm saying? So he was like, yo, twin, chill. Right? And so he started going, what the fuck he was saying? He rapping like that. Lost a lot of fluid.

39:08I know you was like... And blow the sun away. Me and my niggas playing hardball. I said, just like that. Rob Markman, Oh! I opened the door. I got the LS400 Lexus, the big body shit. Please. Please. Come in the car. The man sit in the car. All his friends are looking depressed. Because they made a fake group around him. They knew he was dead nice. They knew he was like. They made a fake group around him. Yeah, he just said he's a top five, top ten. They knew they had that. Got you. They knew that nigga was smacking nice. Got you. You understand what I'm saying? When they see him get in your car, they were like, ah, shit.

39:59And then the thing, and this is what you - One day, the best rappers at the time was Coogee Rap, then he handed it over to Nas. Yes. I purposely took pun to rap for Coogee Rap and Nas.

40:11Tony Yayo:Mm. And with the most respect, when I seen them bobblehead, they were like, I said, oh my God, I got him. I got him. And then, you know what Coogee Rap say? Word him up. Shout out to Coogee Rap. Word him up. No! If Coogee Rap say word him up. You got something. No, Coogee Rap says word him up. Word him up. Nas is like, holy shit, I got him. And I seen what Puff did with Biggie. You know, Biggie, my man, before he ever blew up. I was just going to say that. I was going to say Pun was like a Spanish Biggie. He wasn't like, he would have told you if he was here, we was making him the Spanish biggie.

40:59Look at that. There's no way around it. That's what it felt. Look at that.

41:01Tony Yayo:Because when he had records like, I don't want to be a player no more. I ain't a player. I just crush a lot. He didn't want to do shit like that. Now look, think about it. He didn't want to do that? And boy, they quite more than other Spanish and blacks. That's what I'm saying. Spanish and blacks. He had records that was not only just for the streets. They was playing in the clubs too. He had hit records. Bro, I used to fight with him to make a record like that. He wanted to battle everybody. He wanted to be an underground rapper. He didn't want to do hits. Rob Markman And you know what's crazy?

41:27Tony Yayo:What I loved about you and I liked about you was it felt like when Lil Wayne passed the torch to Drake, it felt like you did that with Pun first. Because I remember you being in the video, Pun was the hottest nigga - Rob Markman That's a fact. It's funny you say that. Rob Markman And you holding the umbrella. Like you holding the umbrella and Pun is rhyming and y 'all on some mafia shit. Rob Markman You gave him that look like, yeah, this the guy right here. The brand is loyalty. When the man was alive, we treated him like a king, even to his death. Rob Markman - Because when Capital Punishment came out, definitely another classic in hip hop.

42:02Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - It's a classic. Rob Markman - I think it's a sleeper and I think Pun Tom came early like Biggs. He passed away so early, rest in peace to him. Rob Markman - He did. Rob Markman - But there's some guys that are good at picking artists. Pun was the... I've always been like, yo, Pun was still alive. We're with the Terrace Broad brand. It's there because you definitely had Remy, you had fucking Tony Sunshine. Rob Markman That's right. Rob Markman You had Cool and Dre, you had Khaled. Khaled is, he's fucking doing all kinds of Domino's commercials and beat that and all that. Rob Markman So I'm looking at it like, damn, imagine if Pun had a longer run because when Capital Punishment came, I remember him dissing 50 and we in the crib listening to that whole album.

42:42Tony Yayo:Because this nigga was like, Rending to little Italy, bitterly, bitterly. It was just like, yo, this nigga's like a fucking machine. He's a big nigga. You know, he's beating niggas up. Cause you know, I know beat up, he roughed up Who Kid a little bit back in the day. Beating everybody up. They kidnap Who Kid, man. Yeah, Who Kid threw Who Kid in the van. We can talk about it now. Stats your lipid station. No, no, he ain't talking. Set out the pun. Who Kid don't get off. Who Kid found it. Who Kid found it. I know you found pun, but what was it like when you did in the studio and you hearing this verse on Capital Punishment.

43:13Tony Yayo:I heard a minute. I was picking beats and all that. You said Fat Joe picked beats. I was picking beats. I made him do deep cover. I'm the one who picked the beat deep cover. I'm the one who told him to do dead in the middle of the little. He used to say that like a joke. He used to also go pack of the back of the act, pack of the back of the back of the act. This nigga, he was so talented. Yeah, yo. Like that's why Fat Joe don't dare say I'm on his level. All these years later, I'm still not on his level. I be lying to you. He's a genius. He's an Eminem. He's a Jay-Z. He's a Nas. He's one of them.

43:50He got balls. And so the man, the man, you know, I was like, yo, you need to say that shit. You be playing around with it. The car. What? I said dead in the middle. He got fuck out of here. I'm not saying, I'm saying I'm telling you. Dead in the middle of the little Italy, little. I mean, you'll kill him. He ain't want to do it. He got on there, he said, dead in the middle. That shit was over. I remember one time when Capital Punishment came out, we did the Apollo. And it was a full house. And we wore matching furs. And we were very generous to each other. So I bought him a fur. He bought me a fur.

44:24We were so hype. And every time we came out, we came out the deep cover. He go, dead in the middle. And the crowd would just go crazy. They try to die. They try to commit suicide in the crowd. Like, dead in the middle. They climbing up walls, jumping up and down. Shit, you never. And then we did it six times in a row. Same play. He just kept. Shit was out of control.

44:47Tony Yayo:You got to think about it. There was only a couple of fat dudes that was really fly. Like, and you and Punt. Well, I dressed him. I dressed Big Punt. Big Punt ain't dressed like that. I put the Versace on him. I put the fly shit on him. I put the disc. No, he picked up fast. All right, coffee. Oh, he picked up fast. But I put the swag on him. Because when you think about the game, right? We got it. Now when you think about it. Let me tell you something. You know what I made off of Big Punt? What? I made$100 ,000. I can honestly tell you I made$100 ,000. It was a check for$100 ,000 from Big Punt.

45:21Here you go, Joe. Congratulations. Here's$100 ,000. He's with me. I'm like, yo, imagine you do something and you make money. Like I was like, yo, wow. It worked. The investment worked. He says, yo, twin, take me up to Fordham Road. So I'm like, all right, I drive him up to Fordham Road. I think I'm in the Benz or something. The man stops in front of the jewelry store. And the man goes and says, yo, bro, you love me, twin? I said, I love you. He said, well, do you love me, twin? I said, I love you. He said, I've been looking at that watch right there. Can you buy me that watch? Shit was iced out.

46:02Rolex, some crazy shit. I went inside. The fucking watch cost$105 ,000. God damn. I wind up having to pay$5 ,000 from the$100 ,000 I made. That you finally made. This guy was insane, bro. Like, he didn't let me make the$100 ,000. I had to buy him the watch and put in$5 ,000. No, the guy was a, he's a legend. Didn't catch the latest Roland Martin Unfiltered podcast? Here's what you missed. And the argument is, do you want to win? If you don't win, you have no power. It's real. Those are the very people who I always say vote against their own economic interests, and they complain about the very thing they're receiving.

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47:27Remy ain't too far behind. How did you sign Remy? How did that whole thing come about? Pun found her. Oh, Pun found Remy. And she said, and I always wanted a girl rapper. They had Foxy, they had Kim. Of course, yeah, Fags. I don't think Eve was out yet. But, man, Pun was like, yo, I got a rapper, girl rapper. We went to the studio. I'll never forget. Raul got it on video. Rest in peace, Raul. And she freestyled. I had to feel like I was straight. bars, bars, bars. I shoot the air bubbles out your sneakers. I'm this, this. She was going, and I was just like, oh, I got so jealous. I was like, Jesus Christ.

48:09This nigga found a chick I've been looking for. Like, he got her. So she tells the story. It says I was ice grilling her the whole time while she was rapping. She was like, oh, no. It's fat, yo. You ain't feeling me. This, this, that. So when I walk out, Punk taps me, says, yo, she our artist. I said, man, she's incredible, Punk. I can't wait to work with her. Let's go, this and this and that. And then he passed away, like, maybe a week later. Oh, damn, serious? No more than a month. Maybe a month later, he passed away. And then she was, like, looking, like, you know, crying at the funeral. And I was like, I got you.

48:53Told everybody at the funeral. LV, his DJ, everybody, everybody that deserved something. Rob Markman - Got you. Rob Markman - I got you. Rob Markman - Got you. Rob Markman - You know, and whoever didn't, I just couldn't. Rob Markman - Yeah, of course.

49:08Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Now, Joe, let me talk about Remy, because Remy is like, hands down, one of the top five female MCs in a certain era of hip hop. We got to give it to her, right? Rob Markman - Yeah. Rob Markman - Now, you got Papoose with these songs, Jazzebel saying, she didn't write her rhymes. And in my mind, no, I'm just asking because she had like hits before she met Papoose. She was on Annie Up. She was on records with Punch. She was on records with you before she even met Papoose. Rob Markman - Her daughter's my goddaughter. I make it a habit of not getting involved between them because I can't have no problem with my goddaughter.

49:45I love her too much and I don't want her father and me to be going at it like that. So I try my best to mind my business. personally Fat Joe has never seen nobody write Remy Mars to this day. She just did 10 songs this week. She's barred up this week.

50:04Tony Yayo:I don't know what to tell you. Speak on that a little bit. Their styles is totally different. It don't sound similar. I don't want to go into it. It's a similar style. All I can say is this. It's unfortunate. However their situation is, I love My goddaughter, I have four pictures of my goddaughter in my room where I sleep every night. She's all over the room, more than anybody. More than my own kids. I bring her to the room. I say, you see? She said, yeah. Pop, pop, maybe you should put another one. Give me five. No, she run the shit. My goddaughter, Kenzie, she run my house. She come up in there, it's whatever.

50:47She knows it. She brings her cousins. Pop-up said we do whatever we want. We in the pool. They just diving in the shit. They don't give a fuck.

50:56Tony Yayo:Yeah, because it's like when you got pun and you got Remy, it's like, oh, this motherfucker's two for two with all this. You know what I'm saying? Remy was the nicest chick, all right, that I had ever heard at that time. And, you know, I always say I can't lie for Remy. You know, my favorite female MC has always been Lauryn Hill. Like, I can't lie. Like, Lauryn is better than guys. She's better than me. So it's like, but Remy, for what she do, nobody can fuck with her. And if she get on your beats, you know what? You is in trouble. Like, if you throw a bounce on there, Remy will take that bounce and go so crazy on that shit.

51:38She going here. That's a fact. Remy be talking about shit. Go. Talk that shit.

51:42Tony Yayo:Just so for Remy verse on Annie Up, it's like, it's just classic. Rob Markman, classic hip hop. Rob Markman, classic hip hop. That one verse right there alone is like - Rob Markman, take off your Gucci shades. I bet. Well you know Remy's whole thing in life. Rob Markman, everything. When she comes in, she got her presence in style. Rob Markman, everything in Remy - Rob Markman, that was early Remy when she did Annie Up. This is before Lean Back and all the other stuff. I'm just saying like songs like that, the thing I like about Joe and Terror Squad, what makes them classic in hip hop, because it wasn't microwave music.

52:14Tony Yayo:Like he's still touring, like Remy can still tour. It's classic hip hop. You know what I'm saying? Yo, yo, yo. Trapcore, Quest, Fat Rimp, do you know Terror Squad? All this classic hip hop. I just told you I've been getting money since I'm 14, yeah yo. I'm not gonna stop. That's all I do. That's all I know how to do. It's like Pac-Man, the nigga keep gobbling. That's all I know. So where Tony Sunshine comes in? I don't even stop. He's going everywhere. Like, I won't stop. I just, the plane broke down for a time. You see what's on our feet, right? I see what's on our feet, nigga. Terrence Squad's out there.

52:48You see what's on our feet? He imitated. You see what's going on, man. Got me getting fighting for a long time. Oh, no, you put the size... Yo, size 12 G units. Reebok, we got you. I spoke to FIFTA by the ass. He told you it was coming into your murder. They really sold out. Cause right now the Terrence Squad's... So we got the G units. We got you coming. We got you coming.

53:04Tony Yayo:We already know. Let's talk about the sneakers cause G units sold out. And it's so crazy. Terrence Squad sold out too. Terrence Squad's sold out. Let's talk about the sneaker journey cause... How ill it is. I like the sneakers. First of all, I'm a rapper first. Somebody just asked me in the street. They said, yo, what are you? Because you're an entrepreneur. You this, you that. Podcast. I said, bro, I'm a rapper. I'm an emcee first. That's what I do. Now, more important than music is making a pair of sneakers with TS on it. I've been to Terror Squad since I'm 12. And seeing lines of people buying this shit, oh, that's the most, it's the most gratifying feeling in the world.

53:49Look at that. Like, you look at somebody with the TS's on and all that, you feel like, wow. I actually want to interview them. Like, ma 'am, why are you buying these sneakers? Are you a sneaker collector? Are you a reseller? Do you fuck with us? What, like, it's an ill shit. When the last ones came out, the black ones, we sold 25 ,000 pairs in 10 minutes global. We probably did the same shit right now. We sold 5 ,000 pairs in my one store in the Bronx in three days. Damn. Come on, y 'all. Salute the fat Joe on that. Now, if a sneaker come out, right, if you get a new drop, Jordan drop, and we sell 72 pairs of the sneaker, we doing the kid in play dance, me.

54:34Of course. Rob Markman, I'm like, yo, we can't believe it. We sold 70 pairs, 5 ,000 pairs. Shit out of control.

54:41Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Do you think the best ex-hustlers are the best entrepreneurs? Of course. Because that's what it's looking like in New York City. You can't be a brokey, right? They used to say brokey. I know, that's what they say. That's what they call the broke dudes right now. Brokey. Brokey. You don't want to be brokey. You don't want to hear the female singing that loud. You get money. I got my best friends been in jail for 36 years. He'll be out in the next three, four years. Right? I can guarantee you that he'll come out here and own seven mechanic shops, 12 barbershops. He just a get money.

55:20He's not going to stop. Maybe under some girl's name, 10 liquor stores. I don't know what to tell you. I know that he is not going to be a broke nigga. He's going to get to it. It's just some people allergic to it. You knew guys like that. When I grew up, very, very young age in Forrest Projects, we had a guy named Vance Romance.

55:40Tony Yayo:Vance Romance? Vance Romance. Don't tell me to take everybody's girl, man. Y 'all, let me get the soda. Worse than that. Let me get the soda. Vance Romance was from my building, but he moved. Wasn't from Forrest Projects. He was from Forrest Projects, but he moved. Only time we've seen him was at Silk Shit with fucking Goyard bags at the time. The two bitches. Like Vance Romance, I had never seen him in my life. Not Fly. I had never. He was Vance Romance. And I was still a little kid. Maybe later he realized I'm Fat Joe. Because I really, I was just, I knew him as Joey. like you know Vance Romance is way older than me.

56:28I bet you to this day he got a fly sweatsuit on a fucking Sergio Chiquini with a fucking Air Force One. If he's alive, God bless him. I promise you. There's guys like that that's gonna hustle. 50 Cent ain't gonna be broke. He ain't never gonna be broke. Puff Daddy ain't never gonna be broke. Oh, they just hustlers. Jay-Z never gonna be broke? Jay-Z never.

56:52Tony Yayo:Man. and those cows are never gonna be broke it's the new york grind man Rob Markman, Yo, you know what I wanted to talk about? Rob Markman, You let me tell it, I think I had a harder grind because I came up on some Keep It Real shit. And so I'm walking around with 30, 40 killers. Like, how are you supposed to give me a dollar? Right? Rob Markman, You know, I just seen Dapper Dan say something. You saw that? He said something about, he was talking about an old you and Jay-Z beef, right? So he said, you mentioned in the rhyme where you really went. And he said, because you used to really go in the Dapper Dan store and spend the money.

57:2630 ,000. He said yes, he said that Joe used to really go in the store and spend the money. He said now at this time back in the day - This Dapper Dan. This Dapper Dan. Am I captain or you - Who you say say what? This is Dapper Dan. You fucking dick. I'm not gonna lie. This Dapper Dan. He said so back in this time, he said Joe used to come in the store, spending 30 bands here and there to get shit. He said now at this time, Jay-Z used to come in the store too, but Jay used to come in with Big Daddy Kane and Jay was just more kind of watching. Like Jay was watching Big Daddy Kane spinning the bread at the time.

57:59So I guess they were saying when y 'all had, you know, rap food back in the day - When he said, I don't need that, no G's. Yeah, he said, I don't, yeah. There ain't no G's on my outfit. I don't need that, but then, no, that. I don't need no, this ain't a sewn outfit. Homes been clapping them shit since I am home. I'll tell you what. A lot of people didn't know that. So they was asking Dapper Dan, like, yo, did you feel like Jay was shooting at you? I felt all them shots. Nah, shooting at Joe. He was shooting at Joe. He was a target for no reason. I was like, you could ask Dapper Dan who was the man in my lifestyle back in 88 every other week, trick, 30 grand.

58:35Tony Yayo:That's a fact. Man. So name your first Dapper Dan piece. Like, did you get the snow glue? It was a red Gucci shirt. So let me tell you, Gerard X, rest in peace, from Harlem. I used to be in my uncle's bodega on 132nd and Park Avenue. My uncle had a number spot bodega, and I was up in there as a kid. But I always liked fly shit. And this Ford Taurus came, and the guy was bigger than Big Pun. Gerard X, he was the biggest nigga you ever seen. He got out the car. He had what we know to be classic Louis Vuitton, the brown with the gold. He had a whole world.

59:22He said, what the fuck is that? He was like, this shit Dapper Dan. Louis Vuitton. He was like, I said, I must go with you. He took me there. You couldn't go in Dapper Dan if you wasn't a hustler. You couldn't go in there unless you was Eric B. Rakim, LL, Big Daddy Kane, or a serious drug dealer from any part of town. So he took me there. I'm like 14. I caught me a red and white Gucci. I might've wore that shit every day. I got cut. My neck got cut in the red and white Gucci. Know what I'm saying? Rob Markman 1 00 - And how much did that one cost? You remember that? That was a red and white Gucci.

1:00:06Man, them shits was running$2 ,000,$3 ,000. The coats was$9 ,000. Got you. I got pictures in Dapper Dan coats. They was$9 ,000. Niggas was getting robbed for$150 snorkel, man. Nigga, like, why wouldn't you believe I robbed a gym? Look at the fucking picture. Talk to him, Joe. Look at the fucking picture. I'm walking around. Yo, I'll tell the story all the time. But I'll tell you. Niggas was getting robbed for eight ball jackets back then. So he making some sense. I ain't talking shit. I'm going to tell you something. I'm just so disrespecting. Yo, I'm sorry guys. Y 'all want me to stop? Nah, go nigga, go.

1:00:40I ran my neighborhood so much that I would sleep at night with my windows open in the car and put my chains over the window when they used to rob niggas for a Benzie bottle. Yo, yo, yo, yo. When the crackheads would rob you, break your car for a Benzie. Remember when niggas had the red stick? They had to say to sit up the front of the car. You're not listening to me. Niggas had the red stick. Niggas had the, they would rob you for your bench. I used to throw my jury some nights over my fucking rear view and go upstairs and sleep, come out tomorrow, my shit all there. Niggas was - What's your windows down?

1:01:25Yo, I can't fuck with this. Yo, I can't fuck with this. I don't know what part you want me to do. I don't know what you want me to do.

1:01:35Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, I'm just telling you the truth. You're asking me a question. Rob Markman, Now what was your second piece? What jackets you did from that one? Did you get the snuggle? Rob Markman, No, I got an MCM white and green. I'm in Lord Finesse's video, I think, strictly for the ladies with the MCM white and green. And this is all before Kingpin type shit. This is all before. Rob Markman, Yeah, because you wasn't a rapper at that time. Rob Markman, I was starting this. But, you know, once we got money, money, it was abuse going on and that. But then it was like, forget about it. I took one dude.

1:02:06He ratted. So I can't big him up. But this nigga has so much money. He bought Gucci snort. Like, like Gerard X took me. I took this nigga. This nigga was a cool nigga. He ratted, though. I won't say his name, but he had the pictures. The crackheads. The pictures. The dudes on the corner looking for the cops. He had the whole block of Dapper Dan. You know, you gotta understand, dudes was kids, they was young, getting tons of money. They didn't even know what to do with the money. Rob Markman, Ph.D.: Facts. Rob Markman, Ph.D.: So when I brought him, he said, yo, that shit you be wearing, go look, yo, take me...

1:02:45Nigga bought the whole Dapper Dan out. Like he had crackheads, I'm trying to tell you. Rob Markman, Ph.D.: Wearing Dapper Dan. Rob Markman, Ph.D.: Wearing Dapper Dan snorkels. and the most I'll give you is it had the blue thunder in the back. Pitchers, crackheads, dolphins, the whole block. Nigga, like they work for FedEx.

1:03:06Tony Yayo:You know what's crazy? Dapper Dan. Yo, Joe, Joe, think about this though. I don't tell my story. No, that's crazy. Yo, nobody want to believe me? Nah, because you're spending 30 grand on Dapper Dan back then, 30 ,000, that's a big thing. Now, I believe you. I'm listening to the stories now because I'm glad you brought that up. But Dapper Dan had his viral moment when you think about it is when Mike Tyson and that Mitch Green shit happened. Remember back in the days they had a fight at the store? Bro, let me explain something to you. He was popping before that. Dapper Dan, any nigga from Queens, any nigga who ever had it, any nigga from the Bronx, any nigga from Ohio, any nigga from Philly, any nigga that had it was coming to Dapper Dan.

1:03:46No, I believe you. And it was 24 hours. But I'll just say his first viral - You go to Dapper Dan 3 in the morning - His viral moment though was Mike Tyson and - You know I knew Mitch Green.

1:03:52Tony Yayo:I didn't know you knew Mitch Green. Hello! Hello! Mitch Green. Remember Mitch Green got knocked out by Tyson? Remember they fought at Dapper Dan? That was big shit. I'm just new Mitch Green. 132nd Park Avenue. He was from the projects across the street. Don't ask me why he got the Jerry Curl shit. And he would always ride a bike 10 speed. He would come in the store every day, my uncle's store, and buy a 40 ounce. He be dusted. Angel dusted. PCP talking about, I'm gonna fuck Mike Tyson up. We like, get the fuck out of you, bum ass nigga. You ain't fight. You know Mike Tyson was knocking niggas out in one round.

1:04:35Miss Green is fighting Mike Tyson on TV. We could not believe the nigga to be dusted on the bike. That's crazy. Really got his shit up like that. I don't even know how to explain it to you. You're from East New York. Imagine you got a nigga from East New York, Summit Avenue, Summer Avenue. and then they're telling you he's gonna fight Mike Tyson. Next thing we know he's on HBO fighting Mike. And I think Mitch Green went the whole distance. He did go. He was on coke, all type of shit for sure. Mitch Blood Green.

1:05:04Tony Yayo:But it was just funny because you remember they made the paper back then. You know, once again, America, I knew Mitch Blood Green. Oh, that's crazy. But remember when he had, look, remember when they had to fight that Dapper Dan, right? And he had the, and it was viral because he had the black eye. The nigga, Mike Tyson, beat that nigga. He said he knocked him out like 20 times. He kept getting up. He had to be on coke or some super drug, nigga. Maybe that's... He said he... Mike Tyson told me in a regular conversation, he was like, yo, I was hitting them with the kitchen sink. He just kept getting up.

1:05:40Like he was like karate kid, nigga jumping on the hood of the Bentley. Like Mike Tyson was going to have to kill.

1:05:49Tony Yayo:Now we got to go on to fashion because you know, you one of the flyest dudes in the game. You switched outfits like two times today already. Maybe - I think I'm the flyest nigga in the game. I got, y 'all, y 'all let me brag. I didn't see them have you on the fashion list too. I was a little disappointed with that, man. Never. They shit on me. They have 50 sisters. Yo, Joe, man. You wear all that shit for no reason. They ain't rating you. I say, yo, this shit. But he not lying. They just made top New York rappers the hundred lists. I don't make the list. Rob Markman, Joe got it on there. Joe got it on there.

1:06:21Joe got it on there. They make the fashion shit. I be like number 48. They got like niggas wearing lacrosse t-shirts on that shit. I don't know what the fuck going on out here. I'm confused. For the people who know this, who love fashion and all, I'm going to keep putting it on.

1:06:40Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, you know what it is? Joe is, he's a guy that's loved within the industry, but I think the hater side is mainly sideline hate because Joe has so much power that like, look, I had a hard time getting a radio. That's what I was going to ask you about the Khaled. I used to come to bring seductive to radio. It was a rap. You had beef on Fat Joe, you can't even get played in Miami because Khaled is running the radio. Rob Markman That's fucked up, Joe. Rob Markman So for me, I was like, damn, man, having beef with these motherfuckers. Rob Markman They already ate everything else. Rob Markman Wherever I was at.

1:07:14Tony Yayo:Rob Markman That's fucked up, Joe. Rob Markman You know what I mean, Joe? You fucked up. Rob Markman You fucked up right up, Joe. Rob Markman, you fucked my run up a little bit, bro. Rob Markman, No, this is a smash hit. We say it every time that shit come on. Rob Markman, How'd you get with Khaled though? Rob Markman, Man, back with Flojo. At Flojo, they used to have... Rob Markman, The story I was telling you about with the West Coast, they used to have hip hop conventions. Rob Markman, Yeah, I remember those. Yeah, conventions. Rob Markman, So that happened in that Miami convention. And then in New York, they had one.

1:07:44And we was online, rest in peace, to see Clark Kent had a DJ battle. Rob Markman - Rest in peace, Clark Kent. And Callie had the vinyl to the album represent. Rob Markman - Another Spanish DJ, because he was, that's my other Panamanian brother, just putting it out there, Clark Kent. Rob Markman - Man, what a legend. Rob Markman - Legend. My brother, my Panamanian brother. Rob Markman - And so, rest in peace, Clark Kent, man. What a beautiful guy. Clark Kent used to hang out with us in the Bronx and shoot dice in the back of... No,

1:08:08Tony Yayo:he had no business there. Where he was at. Rob Markman, Clark Kent is one of the first guys that I ever met being around 50. Rob Markman, I don't think you want to understand what I'm trying to tell you. We used to be in the Bronx. I'm talking about if you want to invent the trenches, Clark Kent be in there shooting dice with us and he's like, he had no business there. He had no business there. And often, it wasn't like - Rob Markman, I think Flex told me Clark Kent was like somebody he looked up to because he was like one of the flyest dudes back then as a DJ, like getting dressed while - Rob Markman, Still the flyest.

1:08:39He died fly. Rob Markman, No, I know that.

1:08:41Tony Yayo:But I'm just saying back then they see - Rob Markman - Clark Kent was, he designed mass sneakers. Like this is a joke to Clark Kent. Clark Kent designed, matter of fact, tomorrow I'm going to wear the Clark Kent shits. So I got a couple of Clark Kent's. He got some Air Force to say Brooklyn, like the train station, that shit. You would die for that shit. I got him. Rob Markman - But listen, so I go like this. So Clark Kent's having this battle. Khaled's online with DJ Nasty from Orlando. And he got the vinyl to my album like two months before it ever came on. That time you get beat up. It's the Flojo.

1:09:20Tony Yayo:Flojo album. So I ran down on him. I was like, yo, what the fuck you doing with that? He was like, yo, yo, I'm just a DJ. They gave it to me. I was like, yo, what are you doing? I don't even have my album. It was like two months before the album. And then we just became tight. from that time before Flojo ever dropped. So, you know, Khaled, we loved him so much. If you know him, you'll love him. And we loved him so much. Hum would drive down to Miami just to get Khaled in the van to play him his new music. Khaled, what you think? That's a cheat code. I would have never did Lean Back remix with Eminem and Mace if it wasn't for Khaled.

1:10:08Cali was like, yo, you got to get the white boy. You could do it. I said, I can't get him. Like, are you, you Eminem? I see y 'all, you could get him, talk to him, you the darn, I'm telling you. And I would have never had the balls to get him on there. And then Mace had retired. At that time, facts. Came back. He been preaching good lately.

1:10:30Tony Yayo:Oh yeah, insane church, right? What is it? I think it's - I don't know. You can look it up. I know he's killing that shit. I think it's insane church. You know what he been killing up? He been killing death, yeah. I might be right. It's insane church, I think. I don't know. I know that he's - I just followed it the other day. His new word is incredible. I know I gotta follow him. Am I saying it right? I may wanna make sure I'm saying it right. I'm not sure, yeah, but I seen a couple clips. I'd like to thank him. Some of those messages really hit home. You know what I'm saying? He's talking that shit.

1:10:59Talk about a message. You had said something the other day about Hat 97, Summer Jam being like a shit show. I don't want to say it like that. I know Flex. Flex, he retweeted. He actually posted up what you said. He said he respect your opinion. But that also means, yo, Joey, shut the fuck up. So, you know, if I'm asked to Flex, he's a Leo like me. He's a lion. I know what that meant. That meant like your words, yo. So let's just big up. I-97 is the legendary story. That's why I was home. That's where we started at. Of course. And Summer Jam is a big deal. I just said, you know, I seen the, I don't know how to explain.

1:11:43There's no way I'm not going to go on a shit show right now explaining this shit to you. Motherfucker walked by me. He was wearing like a latex condom. Nigga had some black patent leather leather shit on. I was like, yo, what is going on here? Now he looked like, it looked weird. Got you. Don't worry about it. Got you.

1:12:01Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Now let's fast forward to Organized Rhyme. That's why we here right now. Classic album now. You got Pusha T on there. Rob Markman, You saying that classic? I can't say that. Rob Markman, I'm riding around. Rob Markman, That Pusha T. I'm pumping it. Pusha T just gave me the date for the video. Pusha T. He just hit me right now. Rob Markman, Shout out to Pusha T. You got there. You got Jada on there. Let's talk about that. Cool and Dre produced the whole album. Rob Markman, I mean, I've always been a fan. Rob Markman, Street Runner too. Rob Markman, Listen, even when we even had beef with you guys, I always was a fan.

1:12:29Tony Yayo:I loved your power. You know why? Because I couldn't get my records played in Miami. Khaled didn't even want to get in the gut depth. I had a problem with Kool and Dre one time because Chris Lighty, rest in peace, was tight with them. He offered them like a million dollars to work on some shit like that. He was trying to get them to do 50 shit and all your shit and I had to go crazy on them niggas. And I was like, you're going to do what? He was like, man, fuck. That was in the middle of the... I was like, are you fucking great? Chris Lighty almost had them. They were like, well, you know, we're producers.

1:13:05I definitely used to get some packs from Cool and Dre. What? I'm like, yo. I used to get some packs from Chris Lighty. I was like, that's a fact. Hated or loved it, Cool and Dre.

1:13:14Tony Yayo:And this is what I'm saying. Hated or loved it is one of the biggest G-Unit records ever done Cool and Dre. Somebody was trying to ask me if... I don't know what interview it was, but somebody was trying to ask me, Was I dissing 50 Cent in New York? The answer was no. I made Candy Shop with Scott Storch. Lil' Kim, when you get up here, she'll tell you. I had Lil' Kim dancing like this, like, move your body like a snake. Mama, I had her doing that to the candy shop. Yeah, I remember. You let that beat go. Scott Storch called me 30, 20, 30 times. Yo, you sure you don't want the beat? You sure 50 Cent won it?

1:13:55I was like, nah, I ain't got no problem. I got no problem with 50 Cent. Give him the beat. You had the record to this beat. You was about to eventually gonna put the beat? I made the beat. It wouldn't have been Candy Shop. It would have been something else, but the beat, I made it. Like I sat there with Scott Storch. I made Make It Rain with him. I made Lean Back with him. Scott can say whatever the fuck he want. I made it with him. When I told him the intro to Lean Back, I said, I need something like Belly when they was walking in the Wilder Club. Pam, pam, pam, pam. Whatever you say out your mouth, Scott could play it.

1:14:26He played the intro. In any case, he called me 30 times. I had no problem with 50 seconds. I said, yo, give him the fucking beat.

1:14:35Tony Yayo:Rob Markman No, that's great. Because when you look at it and you say you not in the top 100 MC, and I agree with you because it's like, you're a guy that's been relevant through three eras of hip hop. Like early 90s, the early 2000s, and now. So it's like, and you always come with a hit record. If it's A Lean Back, if it's You and Ashanti, if it's Make It Rain with Lil Wayne, you always coming. One thing you know about Joe is Joe's going to make a classic album and he's going to come with a fucking hit on each one. Records with pun. You know you're going to come with a hit. Rob Markman Let me explain something to you.

1:15:08You hit it right on the head. So you say, you know, you know. Sometimes I don't know. And every time I come with a hit, everybody be like, we knew it was coming. like how the fuck you knew if I didn't know. But the point is I realize I'm like the sun. You don't ask the sun how old is the sun. The sun come out every day. That's my man. You don't ask the sun how old is the sun. I don't know. I know I'm going to get a suntan from the sun. It comes out every day and brightens up the world. Fat Joe gonna come out and do some shit viral. He's gonna be fly every time he gonna make a hit. Oh, we're used to that.

1:15:51He's just gonna do it. But it ain't regular shit. Like I told you about 50 earlier, it ain't regular shit.

1:15:56Tony Yayo:How was it when Lean Back came? Because you had Tom Cruise and everybody dancing. Lean Back. Lean Back. You had the whole fucking world. Like not just New York City, the world. Like I go to London, Lean Back. Lean Back. You go to Germany, Lean Back. It's one of the biggest hip hop workers ever. It's like an in the club. There's just no other way around it. And man, that shit was a dream come true. You know, every one of my songs came at a time where I was about to fall off or I fell off. Like I went up and down like three times, Pete. Facts. Like number one, then I'm down here. Then boom, a miracle.

1:16:32And then I'm back up. And then I'm back down here. And then boom, a miracle. And then like shit, that's been the story of my life. Thank God we talk shit. And now we got a podcast. We can get some free money somehow. We're partying. We're partying. We're partying. We're partying. We're fucked that. I mean, you know, but in this music -

1:16:53Tony Yayo:Did Make It Rain come before Lean Back? Or after? No, after Lean Back. So what? After Lean Back, Make It Rain, like you said, because that was another one with Wayne. After Lean Back, they thought nothing was Lean Back. So I made Make It Rain and went for platinum. And they still was like, it ain't Lean Back. Like lean back. I don't think till all the way up they ever said like, all right, you're out of that shadow. Rob Markman - Facts. Rob Markman - You're out of the shadow. Rob Markman - Make it rain. Rob Markman - You're gonna make a hit that's so big that the people don't want to hear no shit no more.

1:17:25Rob Markman - Right. Rob Markman - They're like, no, no, no, no. It ain't that. Rob Markman - I saw you talking about the New York record, right? And you were like, yeah, I put a verse on there. But I didn't have an issue with 50. Rob Markman - He did. Rob Markman - I just put my brother on. Now, if it was you, vice versa, right? Like, say you got an issue with somebody. Nah, I wouldn't have diss 50 Cent. Like, if it was me vice versa, and I was on bullshit at the time. Like, super bullshit. I wouldn't have dissed him. You know, his beef was with Ja Rule. Ja Rule was my friend. He saved my life.

1:17:52No, not even saying you would have dissed him, though, right? I'm just trying to say. No, I'm saying no, no. I'm saying if you, if it was like, if you, if you got a record, like, if you got a record, no, somebody got a record that you got an issue with, and they jumped, how you would have felt? Rob Markman, Like somebody jump on the record that - Rob Markman, We probably wouldn't have liked it. We probably wouldn't have liked it, but for me to jump out the gate and start beefing with 50 Cent, cause he jumped on the record as somebody, nah, I wouldn't have liked it. Obviously y 'all know, just like y 'all, I had beef with other guys that I couldn't allow.

1:18:24Rob Markman, You gave that record to Ja Rule, right? Rob Markman, Yeah.

1:18:26Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, It was your record originally. Rob Markman, Well, Kool and Dre played it for me. Rob Markman, Oh word, I ain't know this part. Rob Markman, Yeah. The plot thickens? The plot thickens. Cool and Dre plays it for me because I want to say it right. Cool and Dre plays it for me and I'm like, yo, that's dope. And then they come back and they like, yo, you know, we offered it to Ja Rule. He's going to take the same type of shit with the candy shop shit. They was like, he's going to take it. I was like, yo, you got my blessings. What do you mean? You sure you ain't mad? Because this shit is fire.

1:18:58I was like, nah, I love Ja Rule. So, you know, He did the New York and I jumped on that shit. And that was the start of a beef. Right. Like seven years, right? Or something, how long we beefed? That's whack. Look at that. Now let me ask y 'all a question. Could we ever squash the beef with Ja Rule?

1:19:19Tony Yayo:I mean, I - Like forever? Like, what are we gonna be in the - I think Ja Rule might be - We're gonna be in the AR, AR, what's the, the ARP? I think - Huh? I think Ja Rule - BVD, nigga. You gotta understand. MCM. I'm just loyal to the crew. I'm new to the crew. I'm new to the job. Rob Markman - You probably gonna fight Ja Rule in the senior citizens home. That's no problem. Rob Markman - No, no, listen, in the hip hop, y 'all gonna be playing all that shit, Hibachi like, yo, come here, Ja Rule. Like yo, this shit. I'm ready. It's all good. We can set it up. Some things will never end, but with you, let's talk about organized rhyme.

1:19:57Tony Yayo:That shit is crazy. Rob Markman, organized rhyme. Before we get out of here, we got to talk about some more of that. We got to talk about Pusha T. Right? Pusha T is that Grammy voice right now. Facts. Rob Markman, and I'm trying to win a Grammy. Anybody who's looking from Grammys or whatever - That's one of my favorite joints on there too. Oh my God. That's one of my favorite - My boy got some heat on there, man. I ain't just talking to me talking about - My boy got some heat. Pay the price. You got to pay the - I'm riding around bumping this shit, man. That shit cost a tax. Rob Markman, one thing I can't deny is Kool and Drake.

1:20:28Rob Markman, One of my favorites ever, right? And I don't know about Char as a rap group. I don't know how Lloyd Banks was or whatever. Jumbuck, man. Jumbuck is a liar, man. You know, I told the one... Rob Markman, You said he was born in time, interview that we had. Rob Markman, Biggest liar ever seen. Jumbuck's lying pussy. But listen to what I'm saying. No, it's just truth. Rob Markman, I know. So I'm giving him energy. No, he's coming again with a diss record. So who is somebody? Didn't catch the latest Roland Martin Unfiltered podcast? Here's what you missed. And the argument is, do you want to win?

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1:21:53You better be hitting the ground going hard in the south now. And download Roland Martin Unfiltered on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So Remy won't give it up. Remy is like, she's from, like, Remy won't give it up. Like, it's very hard to see her get along with a girl. It's very, like, she's a rapper. she's an emcee she called me when she got the album and she was just like she was like yo bro that they wanna know that's the last record on she was like they wanna know she said you rhyming elite I see your rem she was like nah nigga she smoking a bunch nah this is different like yo you rhyming like one of them ones I see your rem I waited a whole lifetime for Rem.

1:22:45I don't know how it is with y 'all. Do y 'all big each other up? Rem? No, no, Rem ain't doing that. Rem big enough Fat Joe and everybody's action. Rob Markman, Now I'm not gonna lie, this is one of your favorite projects. Rob Markman, Yeah it's my best album. Rob Markman, Yeah this is for me personally. Rob Markman, Shout out Tony Sunshine cause he had brought him up earlier. Tony Sunshine is my only epic fail. Tony Sunshine should have been as big as any R &B singer in the world. I tried, I got R. Kelly to write for him, I got T. Payne to write for him, I got everybody in the world, but he had these record deals with these record labels.

1:23:26they didn't believe or they didn't think a Spanish kid like him could really do the R &B. But he could have been a John Legend, any one of them dudes. You know what I'm saying? He still flies, still with us for life. We always going to have him. He makes money. He looks great. He's cock-deezing, fly nigga. But, you know, if you ask me where I dropped the ball at, it would be the buck stops at Tony Sunshine. He should have been a superstar. wherever you seen him, he was like, because he started all the like, whatever, Akon's crazy. Akon hit me today. Whatever Akon was doing was like locked up and all that shit and talking that shit.

1:24:05That nigga was talking. He had some shit. Foe, foe, foe. Yo, listen, let me tell you. You think y 'all the niggas the only petty niggas? We petty. Right? Nigga, Miami has something. The Grammy's in Miami. Everybody's there. So he took over Girl, guns, I'm in love with you. It's like Gage. So he flipped the John Legend song. The nigga John Legend walks in the club. You know, it's Grammys. Everybody, you name it's in there. And I tell the DJ, he goes, guns, I'm in love with you. That nigga got so scared. He walked out that fucking club. John Legend got the fucking body. Boy, he must, he CEO these niggas are insane.

1:24:51Hit you with a grenade. I will just piss to whip you and slap you with the mat do and knock you. That nigga was talking to Sunshine. I fuck with Tony's. Oh, no, no, no. He said, y 'all destroyed money. Like y 'all niggas are foul. Look at that. Like what y 'all did to my shit. Look at that. Y 'all remixed that shit. He said, y 'all was famous for that, for the mixtapes. Y 'all put y 'all foot in that ass. What'd they say? Belt that ass now? Definitely put belt that ass. I made a mixtape and almost got sued by 10 people. one mixtape the only mixtape I ever did what would big do shit was incredible but I used a print sample

1:25:33everybody but it wasn't for sale but it wasn't for sale

1:25:38Tony Yayo:that Joe never gets an opportunity this shit was incredible it was a mixtape for free here take it they were like the estate of of Prince the estate of Michael Jackson the estate of He was like, we are so disappointed in you that day. That day. I call high blood pressure. That's one day. Because, you know, it's not easy being Fat Joe. You know, you taking me for granted. Well, I've been hearing him on the TV a lot now, the NBA game. They be kind of calling you Slim Joe now. I am Slim. But let me tell you. You were doing a good run with the Knicks with us, man. You helped us get that chip, my brother.

1:26:13Let's go, Knicks. You helped us get that chip, my brother. Definitely when Wimmy was doing them free throws, what you was doing again, When Wimby was doing the free throws, yeah. There we go. There we go. Let me explain, Sidney. When you see me in courtside, the project's got equity. You better believe it. You better believe it. You see a nigga from the hood, you say, damn, we got one. And then I'm just like every Knick fan. I'm not too big enough. I don't give a fuck. I'm not Fat Joe the Rapper. When I'm at that game, I'm a straight Knick fan that be screaming at the TV. Facts. I'm like, yo, Wimby, man, I almost got fucked up about you want to talk real shit?

1:26:48I almost got beat up like around a good five, six. I got tackled. Rich had to tackle some Hacksaw Jim Duggan nigga in Philly when we beat them. Big white nigga came. Boom. That was on purpose, guys. He did that. He said, I'm taking a picture with some fans. Boom. I moved to the side. Rich said, you motherfucker. Rich don't want to much. Jada was with us. He was like, Rich. Everybody was like, yo, Rich. Rich don't tackle the nigga. You motherfucker. You have ass in your wrist, chill, chill, chill. The whole shit gotta be on camera.

1:27:22Tony Yayo:And this is what I'm saying. It's like, you gotta give Fat Joe his flowers now because it's like, he not only cool with Slick Rick or Big Daddy Kane, he's on court with Spike Lee. I seen him give the sneakers away to Brunson. He's like the guy everybody loves in the game, man. Thank God. You know what I'm saying? And let me tell you, I'll tell you something, man, that I'm most proud about. You know, my father was tough. You know, like I said, I was in the streets since I'm 14. It was because I was aggressive to get money. And I just, my father, he was real. He was tough. He'll punch you in your face.

1:27:58Like you 14, these grown ass men, he trying to knock you out. Tough love? He ain't playing with you. He ain't spanking you in your head. My father will punch a hole through your face, right? So I left the house 14. I was a little scared. You know, I went to live in a crackhead hotel. That shit was like$30. at night and um the point is right the only time my father ever i bought him a house i took care of him his whole for 20 years i took care of every bill my mother and father the only time he said uh y 'all i'm proud of you is one thanksgiving i was out there giving food to the people and he was like y 'all i'm proud of you man you know y 'all know how proud you make me to see you give the people food.

1:28:48And I was like, wow. It's the first and only compliment he ever took. You always give it back.

1:28:53Tony Yayo:You gave it back to Puerto Rico during the hurricanes. We just gave two planes to Colombia last week. Shout out to Unidos por Colombia and everybody from Queens. The Queens people collected the water, the hygiene, everything. We sent the planes, right? 777, we sent two planes. So the point I'm making to you is the other day I'm at this hip-hop school. Shout out to the hip hop school in the Bronx. It's my neighborhood where I grew up at. And I actually got robbed from my Pumas across the street from there. So somebody robbed Fat Joe before? I just told you niggas was whipping my ass for fun. Okay, that's right.

1:29:30Okay, that's right. Nah, they was whipping my ass. So I had to change the script. Okay, guys. No, what do you want me to do? You think I ain't get robbed? So I go like... I used to go to a store called Jew Man. and they be like, all right, Joey, on three. Niggas is waiting across the street to rob you when you buy anything in Jumass. One, two, three, and you run. And a hundred niggas chase you till you get to your projects with your sneakers. Crazy. No, it's a fact. Okay. Right? So I go like this. So anyway, I'm at the hip hop school. Man, come over. You see your Joe, man. I'm the principal of the charter school over there.

1:30:09Damn, what was the name of the charter school? Fuck. He said something to charter school academy or whatever. I knew what it was. He was like, yo, man, you gave a half a million dollars in sneakers and clothes to our students. Our people really appreciate. Boom. Little lady comes. Hey, Joe, I'm the principal from your elementary. Thank you for the computer library that you gave us and this and this and that. She goes. Maybe a minute later, because when they put the hip hop school two blocks away, they had a fire. where the Muslims, the African Muslims, like I think 18 of them died in the building.

1:30:48We donated$2 million. He arrested people. So a man come over from the Muslim community over here. He was like, yo, brother, you donated the$2 million. And it's crazy because I just help people all the time. Until you bailed the nigga out two days ago. It's like I help people all the time and I do it from the contents of my heart. Like, you know what I'm saying? But to see people actually acknowledge it and tell you, like, forget all this shit. I don't even know this. Yo, I'm telling you, there's some cousins in my family watching this, this broke, they're like, yo, this motherfucker better throw something this way.

1:31:30He over here giving back to everybody else. He better throw some shit this way. But, you know, it makes that really, that's better than any music. that's better than anything. You know, I'm just giving back to my community. We do a pantry every month, right? Where we feed thousands of families every month. I always wanted to do that. I'm finally up to where I could do that consistently. So every month we feed thousands of families, like real groceries, everything, rice, beans, soup, this, that, chicken, this, that, that. Look at that. And so I'll tell you another thing really quick. so when they were breaking into all the stores, Newton's stores and George Floyd we out of here after this did you when they were breaking in hold on hold on hold on cause we could be here for five hours so when they were breaking into all the stores Nike put me on the zoom and Nike said yo we got like 3 ,000 stores the only two stores that ain't get broken into is Fat Joe's stores up in YC.

1:32:38We want you to speak to all these owners. They weren't breaking the fat Joe's store. They're like, yo, can you please talk to these guys?

1:32:52Not for being tough. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I'm listening. Niggas was trying to break into stores and their grandmothers was like, no, no, not Goldo. He feeds us. You can't not. That's what happened. Not that store. any store for that one. Look at that. We got Thanksgiving for Gordo. You ain't doing that. They told them, yo, you can't run up in this. Go anywhere else. So they put me to talk to a bunch of, they call them vendors. Everybody going to stores. They came on and said, listen, guys, the only thing we do is we look out for the community. You can't just be taking money from the community, making money off the community living in a mansion and sending your kids to private school and don't want to give back something.

1:33:43Scholarships, support the school team, do something. You guys just want to keep eating off of us and not giving back. And that's why the community didn't protect your shit. Had you had a reputation of looking out for the hood, they just stood in front of your store and been like, nah, nah, nah, nah, not this one.

1:34:04Tony Yayo:That's what happened. Y 'all heard that, Fat Joe. Giving back. Organized Rhyme out right now. Make sure y 'all tapping Netflix. Hey Joe and Jada. Yeah. Shout out to Terror Squad sneakers and G-Unit sneakers to sold out. Y 'all see what's going on. Sold out. Oh, that's what I'm talking about G-Unit. Talking about sneakers, how did you and Michael Jordan get so fucking cool? On a side note, where did that relationship start from? Long time ago, you know it was because of y 'all niggas. Baby, you don't want to ask that question. For real? I'm the first rapper that had a signature Jordan. I designed it with Michael Jordan.

1:34:40I met with him like seven different times designing it. This guy right here is amazing. This guy be having so many different stories. That's why I had to ask. You know Michael Jordan? We ain't cool with Michael Jordan, ain't just something regular. So I had to ask that before we get the fuck out of here. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead, Joe. I got my store because of Michael Jordan. Do you know that? You didn't know that? No, when you said - I did. He did though. I did. With Michael Jordan. Not with a designer team. Not with a stylist. No, I'm meeting with Michael Jordan.

1:35:18He wanted me to do it. The insole. He wanted to be Puerto Rico. He wanted to be like some Latino type shit. We meeting. And then we get into that shit. Miami that. Fuck G unit. Y 'all niggas got. You got security. That next day, I got a phone call and said, Big Joe, you know, I'm not into none of this controversy, but maybe we revisit the sneaker. To this day, I ain't get a Jordan. A T.S. Jordan, and that's my family. You know, I have dinner with Michael Jordan. It's an honor. I have dinner with Michael Jordan. I chill with Michael Jordan. But what I'm saying is - He do. He put - But listen. I've never seen the - Listen.

1:36:01Rob Markman, I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I'm like, yo, this nigga Joe Willing - Did I say Jordan?

1:36:04Tony Yayo:When he said he designed it, Jordan? Come on. I did with Michael Jordan. After that shit, that MTV shit. That G-U-U-B fucked his shit up, nigga. After that MTV shit, the next morning, I'll never forget, I was on my way to Jamaica. I had a show, he was like, Big Joe, we don't, we're not into that. Fat beef and all, we don't know nothing about it. Yeah, Nike's not with that shit. Him, he wasn't with that shit. Michael Jordan wasn't with that shit. I go I've got such a relationship With Nike and Jordan and all that I go and build the store Without permission I don't know that you gotta get vetted You need permission That's a real shit You can't just open the store You think I'm gonna open the sneaker store Nigga you better off opening the dispensary Shout out to Dynasty Commodity One of my favorite Let me say go get high But listen to what I'm saying right now.

1:36:59Nigga fly. So, I don't, the man come from Nike and he say, yo, who told you to make this store? I said, no, I want to make a store. I collect sneakers. You know, we cool. We family. He said, it don't work like that. He said, you got to get vetted and all that. And they're not opening stores right now, Joe. So, you're going to most likely, you spent your money for no reason. I might have spent$700 ,000,$800 ,000. Damn. The hood ain't never have white marble, shandolens. No, no, no. Yes, it's looking nice. It's looking nice. It's too fly. It's looking real nice. So I turn around and I go like this.

1:37:36I said, and that was that. That night, Jordan did a party for Neymar Jr. They welcomed him to Team Jordan. Just my luck. So I show up. I think Fab was there. Kelly Rowland was performing. All I know is I hear a voice. and goes, Big Joe. Big Joe, when I tell you everybody shut the fuck up. It was Michael Jordan. He had a cigar in his hand. He had some Carniac, something. Your store. I'm there. Opening day. Your store. I'm there. Opening day. When I tell you these niggas ran, guess you got a store, buddy? We want to help you. Oh my God. What great news. Look at that. He got me my store. Wow. And then I went back because if we're going to keep it real, in the hood, we had no stores tier zero.

1:38:37So if Drake come out with a sneaker, Travis got this, the hood never got that. It was always downtown. They only have like five. You had to go down there. Yes. And so all our kids was going down there. and so I pull up on Michael Jordan and he was at a party and I said yo MJ you know I'm from the black and brown community he turned around so fast he said you give me Joe what he want I like Reverend Al shopped in him he didn't even want to hear it he just said no no no Give it Joe whatever you want to say, it's tier zero. Don't care what tier. Give it a big Joe. They came over, yo, you did it. Don't worry about it.

1:39:28You're on the list now. Now you got the best shit. Michael Jordan helped me to the moon and back. Rob Markman, Jr.: Damn, look at that.

1:39:34Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Jr.: Yo, don't talk to him. He's a LeBron fan. We Knicks fans. Rob Markman, Jr.: I am a LeBron fan. LeBron James, let's go, baby. Rob Markman, Jr.: Yo, what you think about him coming to the East, man? What are we going to do to Philly this year, Joe? Rob Markman, Jr.: Boo. Rob Markman, Jr.: Boo. We probably gonna get beat up. Rob Markman, I'm in the next one. I'm in the next one. Rob Markman, Yo, don't go to Philly. I promise you. You been to Philly against New York? Rob Markman, Nah, I never went to Philly, just New York. Rob Markman, Bring brass knuckles, nigga. I almost had 10 fights in Philly.

1:40:00Oh, they almost threw me out for cheering. I got a guy there. He said, you know how we got the guys that treat you nice, the ushers in the garden and all? He was like, don't clap. Don't cheer. I said, what the fuck? You talk, these s*** is like$10 ,000,$20 ,000 seats. I said, fuck you talk. He was like, don't clap. I'm going to throw you at it. I had to call Skinny Joe. You know Skinny Joe? He's famous for making cheesesteaks. I called Skinny Joe on FaceTime and I showed him like that. Because you know, it's like, he said, I said, yeah, motherfucker. I know Skinny Joe.

1:40:36Tony Yayo:Now Philly got LeBron. It's going to be a crazy year. And the opening game, shout to New York, is Philly. It's October 20th. My outfit is already laid out. I believe you. Pain. I believe you. Pain. Pain. That outfit is already laid out. For October 20th. For October 20th. How's the podcast life? You enjoying it, Joe? You enjoying the podcast life? Making a lot of money. And so is Jadakiss. And we keep in hip-hop culture. Why he laughing? No, no. Huh? That was you? We're making a lot of money. Of course. And shout out to Netflix, Joe and Jada. And we thank y 'all for putting us onto this money as well.

1:41:18We got thanks. Thank you, man. Shout out to Joe and Jada and my guy Rich. You know what I'm saying? So you're enjoying it. You know what happens is that a lot of guys, I just don't know, man. I did some shit that just went viral today. I posted it and it was like everybody got to win. I never know when I got to tap y 'all guys for help. the more people you are affiliated with that wins and makes their own money, the more powerful you are. When you need them or they need you, you're there for them. See, a lot of guys before us, their concept was me. And everybody got to look up to me and everybody got to ask me.

1:41:58But what happens when you stumble? When your line of stumbles? Nobody for help, nothing. Can't get nothing from nobody. So that's the whole key. So I already knew you guys, you had what me and Jada had. You had the authenticity. You know how to talk shit. You ain't scared of nobody. You're going to get it in. I didn't know that you had so many guests. You guys got a lot of guests. You niggas is moving, right? That's not an easy thing. You guys are moving. And your work ethic, if there was anything that impressed me the most about y 'all is your work ethic, sometimes the consistency. So say Carisha, Young Miami.

1:42:36She had the hottest podcast in the world, but she would do like one every two months. That's a fact. If you don't sit down on this motherfucker, you can't get to that bag. That's a fact. So you can't do one a month or whatever the case may be. Somebody like Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp is pulverizing the game. But he do like one a month, one every two months. I sent him to TS sneakers too. He do one a month or two a month. We just coming in and you doing the same shit. I don't know if it's because of us, but y 'all just moving. We moving. Shout out to the value. We got to give them. They props.

1:43:08Shout out to the value. Shout out to the value. Yeah, it's facts. They smart.

1:43:12Tony Yayo:Studios. We just work. No, you're working hard and that's to be commended. But, you know, we're just trying to keep this. You know, I say God is real talk and is foul because it's God and it's hip hop culture. Then it's my family. That's how I look at it in life. So I'm all about preserving this culture, telling the truth. If we want to hear something, if we think it's Cap, let's ask Snoop Dogg. Let's ask 50 Cent. Let's ask something. Let's ask Michael Jordan. What they try to do, ask Michael Jordan. What you trying to say, my nigga, Joe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck? He said it 10 times. All right, heard you, Joe.

1:43:56All right, Cap. All right. He going with the Cap. Rob Markman, All right, all right. He go with the cap. Yo, yo. Yo, I don't want to talk about the last controversy. I got a controversy every week, but the last controversy, shout out to the so-called dirty section. You told me one time Joe lay off them. They stood out for me. Rob Markman, Kiss told you to lay off them too. Rob Markman, Yeah, but every last one of them, they reppin' for you right now. Rob Markman, They reppin' for you right now. Is that a good shout out, Rich? Yes, that's a good shout out. Dirty section. I acknowledge you guys for putting up with us.

1:44:34Yes. You know what I'm saying? And they holding you down right now. Right now, the dirty section that's holding my boy down.

1:44:41Tony Yayo:Fat Joe is in the building, Organized Rhyme is out now. Nothing but hits on there. Joe and Jada's on Netflix getting that bag. We got the sneakers that sold out. Shout to Nike. We doing big things, Dynasty Commodities. I need G-Unit sneakers. We got the G-Unit sneakers on the way. Make sure y 'all like, share, subscribe, the volume, the real report. And I also got a show on Complex Feed Yale. Check that out, too. Let's go!

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