In short
Fergie Baby (Harlem) discusses his Empire Records deal, Cam’ron co-sign, A$AP Rocky’s influence on Harlem fashion/visibility, his studio/business approach, and names a “top 5 Harlem” list plus other current New York artists. He also talks about his debut album “Gardasome Hallow” and a planned release party.
Guest backgrounds
Fergie Baby is a Harlem rapper from 4th and Lennox with a bachelor’s degree in criminal justice; he interned at Empire (starting around 2021 after the pandemic) while recording, shooting videos, and building relationships. Host/other speaker is Rob Markman, plus recurring Harlem music figures referenced (e.g., Uncle Murda, Summer Jam context).
Key claims
Harlem artists should treat themselves as brands and pursue fashion/brand ambassador deals (True Religion, Supreme, G-Shock, etc.). His Empire signing came after he was initially an intern and was nearly written up, but executives backed him once they saw his music. He credits his team (producer Cajun, videographer Dre, manager) for in-house execution and video creativity.
Notable examples
Mentions being on Big L’s Mass Appeal album (track “Put the Mic Down”), co-signs from Cam’ron and A$AP Ferg, and a Harlem Two Step record with Six Figure Digger. Album features include Max B, Cam, A$AP Ferg, Davey’s, Neek Bucks, and Fat Man Scoop (rest in peace). Release party planned for August 6 at a rented church. Top Harlem picks discussed include Mace, Cam, Big L, A$AP Mob/Rocky, and Dipset (with debate over Dougie Fresh).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFergie Baby's Journey to Summer Jam
4:13 to 6:46
Fergie Baby shares his journey from getting fired to performing at Summer Jam.
“I told Murda like - That's your little thing right there?”
Fashion and Style in Harlem
6:46 to 8:23
Discussion on Harlem's fashion influences and personal styles.
“I told you countless times, I ain't seen your back.”
Influence of Harlem Legends
8:23 to 10:26
Fergie Baby discusses the impact of Harlem legends like Big L and Tiana Taylor.
“So I understand that and I want to keep building with these.”
The Business of Music
10:26 to 13:06
Fergie Baby talks about understanding the music business and the importance of a good team.
“That's why we set down the - That's right.”
Education and Artistic Structure
13:06 to 14:01
Discussion on how education and upbringing shape Fergie Baby's approach to music.
“Performing and videos, that's, oh, it's celebration.”
The Potluck of Artistry
14:01 to 16:46
Learn about the importance of teamwork and personal growth in the music industry.
“So I really genuinely love and believe in my team because they pushed me into be the artist I am today.”
Education and Criminal Justice
16:47 to 19:05
Explore the motivations behind pursuing a degree in criminal justice and its relevance to the music industry.
“Damn, I think I haven't met a rapper with a bachelor's degree.”
Internship Journey at Empire
19:06 to 21:08
Discover the unconventional path of becoming an artist while interning at a record label.
“And then, yo, he got a bachelor's degree.”
Support from Legends
21:09 to 23:06
Hear about the significance of receiving cosigns from legendary artists like A$AP Ferg.
“Intern and he was shooting videos in there.”
The Independent vs. Major Label Debate
23:07 to 24:25
Understand the advantages of staying independent in the music business versus signing with major labels.
“Interns just taking over the building that night.”
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Full Circle with 50 Cent
24:26 to 25:13
Learn about the significance of opening for 50 Cent and how it relates to personal journeys.
“And they turn the lights on, so you're going to have a lot of loyalty to them.”
Full Circle with 50 Cent
25:21 to 26:13
Learn about the significance of opening for 50 Cent and how it relates to personal journeys.
“ChatGPT can do more than answer questions.”
Top Five Harlem Rappers Discussion
28:00 to 30:08
Learn about the perspectives on the top five Harlem rappers and their influence.
“No, I'm saying, I would say just the top five, like, because we could go, you know what I'm saying, into the new artists.”
A$AP Rocky's Influence and Fashion
30:08 to 31:37
Discover A$AP Rocky's impact on fashion and his unique style in Harlem.
“I'm looking like, what the fuck is that?”
Debate on Dougie Fresh's Legacy
31:37 to 34:38
Engage in a lively debate about the impact and legacy of Dougie Fresh.
“They was ahead of the game, fashion and online.”
Upcoming Album Insights
34:38 to 36:39
Get insights into the upcoming album featuring various artists and producers.
“Yo listen, Dougie Fresh nigga is the first nigga kinda really, when you really think about it from Harlem.”
Creative Release Party Plans
36:39 to 42:16
Learn about the unique plans for a release party in a church setting.
“So I guess Bobby was like, I got a, I got an idea.”
Harlem's Culinary Scene
43:54 to 45:31
Explore the diverse food offerings in Harlem.
“You got just all kinds of food in Harlem.”
Collaborations and Ambitions
45:31 to 47:23
Artists share their desires to collaborate and expand their reach.
“You used to get a lot of Busta comparisons, right?”
A$AP Rocky's Show Experience
47:23 to 49:35
Reflect on the unique experiences at A$AP Rocky's shows.
“And I would say, yeah, Rocky, what's up, man?”
Journey to Summer Jam
49:35 to 53:19
Discuss the journey from struggles to performing at Summer Jam.
“and you throwing the money out the car and you got the cheetah print jacket on and you talking that shit and the beat is crazy.”
Journey to Summer Jam
54:52 to 55:39
Discuss the journey from struggles to performing at Summer Jam.
“Across America, money is being abandoned.”
Transcript
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2:54You know what I'm saying? It was a beautiful moment. Shout out to Funk Flex. Shout out to Nitty. Shout out to Hot Nile. It was beautiful, bro. It was no feeling like that, bro. This is summer jam. So we all used to go there as a kid and watch it. You know what I'm saying? So now I'm on stage. It's crazy. It still feel fake. All of this still feel fake. We talk about it all the time, me and my man Cajun. This feel like a movie, bro. Like last night. Yesterday feel like a movie. Life is just crazy. But it is me because you ain't do summer gym yet. It's pre-recorded
3:52Tony Yayo:I'm out my bitch. Let's hear it just a dope. Yeah, this the Talk of New York. And this the boy Uncle Murda, AKA Lil Jet Lenny. And we here, introduce yourself, man. Tell them who you are, man. It's Fergie baby Harlem, baby. You know what's going on. Call this from Harlem, Harlem. That vibe. Me. Shout out to management, Jazz. Yes, my Harlem love, bro. I told Murda like - That's your little thing right there? That's your thing? Okay, yeah, I got it. I heard it twice. I ain't no, I'm like, okay. You know what I mean? I'm gonna just make it so I'm open. They gotta know I'm here, you all right? I heard you, my.
4:29Tony Yayo:You feel me? I heard you. Harlem is in the building. And you know Harlem, when they come in, it's all about fashion, man. I told this nigga, even his socks is fresh, man. Show him, what you got on, man? You got the BB belt on? I got the Stolen O's belt, some clean leather, black shorts, you heard? I got the lotto, you know, little thermal long sleeve. I got the casino. I don't know what hat I got on today. I got my man, Full Play, Ori. Got the Brick by Bricks Nigel Sylvester's with the custom Nike socks, man. Rob Markman - Harlem in the building. Rob Markman - Harlem, shout to Harlem, man. It's all about the drip when it come to Harlem.
5:03Tony Yayo:It's all about fashion. It's been like that for a long time. But for me, I love New York City. I love all the new artists that's coming from New York City and Jersey. You know, and you one of my favorites from Harlem. When I heard the shout to Ken, when I heard Harlem Rhythm Drive, that was it for me. The video was crazy. You know what I'm saying? You in Harlem, you out the Porsche, throwing the money. You got the cheetah pin jacket. You looking like plenty already. You know what I'm saying? Rob Markman, Shout out to Sugar Dugger. Rob Markman, Shout out to Sugar Dugger too, man. So it's like, when the Cam record came, and then I heard the record with Cool Money.
5:38I was fucking with that.
5:40Tony Yayo:You know what I'm saying? Both of y 'all niggas was fresh to death on some Harlem shit. You had the Vance on with the bucket. I'm like, nah, I fucking want this nigga. You know, Harlem niggas gotta stay fly. Rob Markman, and then you came with the Chris Brown joint. And it was like, nah, this nigga know how to make records, got bars, he's one of them. Two of my favorites in Harlem, I told you, was you and Chuck Cash. And the marketing is crazy. Talk about the co-sign from Cam and everything like that. Rob Markman, Shout out to Killa. Like I said, man, shout out to Sugar Duggar first and foremost, because he put me on Cam Winder.
6:11He posted me one day like, oh shit, shit like that. Cam like, who the fuck is that? It's a new cat out of Harlem. He was like, oh, no, no, no, we gotta, let's figure it out. Let me give him the call with him. And he's been a mentor, like a big bro figure ever since. You feel me? He was like, I'm getting on this record. We going to take the towns. And for me, he's still here. Where the Harlem you from? I'm from 4th and Lennox. Okay, gotcha. 4th and Lennox, man. I was all over Harlem. I was on 4th, 3rd and Lennox in 7th and 1.33rd and 8th. 4th and Lennox, I'm still here. You met Cam before? I haven't met Cam.
6:45They ain't met Cam before. Yeah, what's up, killer? I told you countless times, I ain't seen your back. Rob Markman, You got the record, you got the verse. Rob Markman, I got the verse, man. It's out, it's out. Go stream that. Harlem, over drive with Cam. Where you up? Yes sir, Harlem. That's right.
7:00Tony Yayo:It was the boss for me, because you was like, I'm from the block where Big L and Tiana Taylor from. What's she won, an Emmy or Oscar? What is it? Shout out to Tiana Taylor. Shout out to TeeTee, man. That's the queen. Shout out to Tiana Taylor, man. She won an Oscar, Tiana Taylor, right? So it's like when you said that, I'm like, yo, I'm from the same block from Big L and where Tiana Taylor from. Like that shit. Talk about that when you come up with them balls like that. Like Big L is from your block? He on Linux, yeah. I'm on 45th, they all on 48th and 39th. That's where they at. I mean, it's real shit.
7:31Like literally, Linux is like my stopping ground. So I used to walk that up and down all the time. And it's real. Like they on 40th, I'm on 45th. We're on the same block. Linux have legends, you know?
7:41Tony Yayo:Yeah, it's crazy because when you look at, I know you got these deals. I see True Religion. You're doing stuff with Nike and you're doing stuff with Vance. Yes. When you think of Harlem, you always think about fashion. Like we be overseas, we'll see A$AP Rocky with a Montclair deal. We'll see A$AP Rocky with a Ray-Ban deal. Like what is it with Harlem and fashion and music for you? Home of the hustlers. We understand business. We understand we a brand at the end of the day. It ain't just about making music. is about it's you your likeliness you a brand at the same time too so alongside of the music we gonna get these brands and we like to wear clothes anyway so why we can't collaborate why we can't exchange services with each other okay so for me so it's like i like bbc for example like i'm kind of like a brand ambassador from they just give me clothes and we gonna wear it every time and that's my fault true religion true religion is another one i'm a tier one um uh i got the camp the brand ambassador campaign on tier one right now so basically it's things that they give you clothes take pictures, videos, any type of content.
8:41And that's what I do. Supreme, give me this. Everything for me. So I understand that and I want to keep building with these. Same thing for G-Shock, you feel what I'm saying? So you ain't wearing shit for free. Nah, I wear if it's fly. You feel me? But I'm still holding at the same time too, but it's also a business too. We got to understand that. Like it's both sides of this shit. You know what I'm saying?
9:00Tony Yayo:What's your process in the studio like? Cause I hear it's like, it's really not drill rap. It just feel like it's just balls, but I'm an older nigga and I was feeling the beat and everything, what you were saying. And when you talk about legends like Big L, what made you come with that? Because you young, you in your 20s. So you know what I'm saying? What made you mention Big L and the greats from Harlem? Rob Markman - I mean, you got to know your lineage, you know, the history of Harlem. For me to be a Harlem rapper, I'm always rapping Harlem. I'm Harlem baby, you got to know what's going on.
9:30You feel what I'm saying? So I always want to pay homage at all times. And I'm on Big L album as well. Rob Markman - Oh, were? Rob Markman - Yeah, I'm on the last record. Put the mic down. A lot of people don't know that, but yeah.
9:38Tony Yayo:I gotta get that. What album is that? That's the last one. That Mass Appeal put out? Yeah, that Mass Appeal. I gotta get that. Track 16. It's me, Party Artie, and Big Up. I'm on the hook. So how does it feel to be on a record with a legend like Big Up? Surreal, man. Blessings, but it just shows - Y 'all stamped in Harlem. I was like, you're stamped for real. It's like a clown, huh? You the baby Harlem baby. There you go, baby. But it's full circle, man, and this is an indication and just letting us know that we doing this and we supposed to be here. He's already, God already wrote this. And now we just walking it.
10:08You know what I'm saying? So we just -
10:09Tony Yayo:How's crazy you paying homage to the legends? When I think of Big L, I always think of Ebonics. That shit was all. Seven minutes. Even I joined with Nas. They went crazy on that. So, you know, always paying homage to who paved the way. And I'm glad to take the torch as the new generation of Harlem. Definitely. What's the process in the studio like? Me and my bro? Yeah, my man Cajun. Shout out to my boy K, man. Shout out to K. You know, we just going in. vibe like we need some Henny. You know 50 % of them records right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah you do, no cap. That's why we set down the - That's right.
10:42We was arguing on the - Niggas know the business. That's why we behind the scenes talking about producers and what they get and all that. So he get you doing the right thing. That's my part. That's my brother. I thought it was going 60-40. Nah, not with him. Nah, nah, nah. You feel like all these other producers, not with that one. That's my other half, you heard? That's right. But nah, in the studio we on, we need that Henny, you heard? We need a vibe. And Henny? Yeah, I need that - Oh, you need that Branson? Oh yeah, give me that Branson. Give me that Branson. I need Branson. Give me right, give me right.
11:09But I'm letting you know where I was on. That's cool, okay. We got you, that's cool. We just got to get you the Branson. We got you. Give me right, give me right. We got you, we got you. So we need a vibe, you feel me? A lot of the times we listen to music or we play beats and we just vibe. Like, you know what I'm saying? We got to get in that mode. For us, we might listen to some, some lyrics. Like it might throw on Benny or we might throw on Busta Rhymes for creativity, dip set. And then we just start getting money. Rob Markman - Got you, got you. Rob Markman - We need to light and write. Rob Markman - Some of you are the inspirations right there.
11:36Rob Markman - Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I got mad inspirations, but just the thought process of them in a studio, sometimes I listen to certain people like, all right, back. Rob Markman - Got you, got you. Rob Markman - You know what I'm saying?
11:44Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - What gives you the drive? Rob Markman - Because a lot of artists, there's dope artists in every hood around the world, but some of them don't have the drive to go shoot the videos. When I see your videos, I see Harlem. You out the car, you throwing the money. You got the bad, beautiful women from Harlem, you know what I'm saying? Furz on. You know what I mean? Like what gives you the drive? Because a lot of artists are dope, but they don't want to... Put it like this. Even when you seen A$AP Rocky in his first videos, he was on a motherfucking bike. Rob Markman, Flado. Rob Markman, It was all about the visuals.
12:17Rob Markman, Yes.
12:18Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, What I liked about you is every video was kind of more entertaining. Even if you were in Cool Money's on the corner, it just was shot crazy. Rob Markman, Shout out my man Dre. My man, he know the shot compositions. He know what the people want from me, and then he knows what I like as far from the video. So he understands, it's like Cajun. I have everybody tailored and everything is in-house. So we know what we're doing when we do it. You know what I'm saying? So shout out to Dre. But yeah, it's just like, we want to make sure that alongside of what you're hearing is appealing to what you see.
12:49You know what I'm saying? So it's a whole package with us. We want our videos to be engaging and creative and different from everybody else. So we try to stay as authentic as possible, but creative and out the box as possible. But also stay in range of Harlem and me. You know what I'm saying? So, and also shooting videos is fun for us. That's like the aftermath. The hard part is making a song. Performing and videos, that's, oh, it's celebration. You having fun, let's, everybody come outside. Let's celebrate what we just put on wax. That's how I look at this shit.
13:15Tony Yayo:But how you learn the business side of it? Like I see you got good management, good producer, good videographer shooting your videos. Like what made you like think of the business part of it too? because we spoke on this back there. Like, yo, there's a lot of artists that's pretty dope, put out dope music, dope producers, but it's just not reaching. And your manager was like, sometimes it's the team. Facts. What made you think like, I got to get the team too? Like, you know? You're not going away without a team like we said in the other room. Like the team is essential and you got to have people that understand you and have your best interests and understand how to switch leaderships and roles whenever the moment is right.
13:51Like my team understands me, like, you feel what I'm saying? and they guide me whenever things need to be tightened up. And that's what a team is for. Everybody got their own role, you feel what I'm saying? So we all come to the table with our own meal and it's a potluck after that. Everybody, you feel me? So I really genuinely love and believe in my team because they pushed me into be the artist I am today. You know what I'm saying? So I got a video, and everything is in the house. I don't outsource. I got a videographer, producer, assistant, security, booking agent, manager. I got everything.
14:21I don't need nothing. I see you got a bachelor's degree, right? In criminal justice. For real? Is that what you - Yeah. Yeah. This guy got a bachelor's degree in criminal justice. Hold on, bro. How the fuck you knew that? I mean, sometimes you gotta do your homework. What's it on the QC? You gotta do your homework. You gotta do your homework. You gotta do your homework. You gotta do your homework. Yeah, bro. So from all that school sitting, doing stuff like that, right? Is that where you get the - Of course. Let me structure my shit this way and moving like this. And in my upbringing too, my mother and father.
14:48Like those is, they own that business. So they raised me to be that. And then when I went to school, it was more of a now I'm by myself. So I have to learn and create the mechanism of being a businessman. And once I got into the music, at first it was a hobby, but once I started to get into it and really start getting money, you got to learn a business. But why did you go to school for criminal justice? Nah, I mean, it's two reasons. Cause my mom, she was in a criminal field and she wanted me just to be in that situation. And also for me as a black man, I wanted to know and have the knowledge of the law.
15:17You feel what I'm saying? And just having the resources and connects to being that. You know what I'm saying?
15:21Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Fergie be in the hood like, yo, don't let that cop record you, nigga. I know I'm actually. Rob Markman - Oh yeah. Rob Markman - I'm fighting the boys right now in the lawsuit because they wilding. I ain't playing with those who are. So I'm really on that. I really advocate for that. I don't like police brutality. I don't like none of that. You know what I'm saying? So I just try to learn it and also use it when the time is right in the cases like that. Rob Markman - So you wasn't trying to pursue it as a career. You just wanted to have it in your toolbox. Rob Markman - At first I did.
15:48Yeah, like when I, you know, you young, you don't know what you want to do. So it was a time where it's like, I'm gonna take this seriously. I'm gonna work for the defense side. I worked for the supervised release program. So instead of you getting time, you going - Yeah, he said defense, G.C. He got like - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Defense, bro. He said you don't ever work for the defense side. That's right. Sometimes you gotta let niggas know that. No facts, man. Yeah, the defense side, bro. I'm here to help y 'all. I don't watch out in there. That's right, let them know, Fer. I watch out in the program so y 'all outside is free.
16:09You think you're up? That's what I'm saying though.
16:10Tony Yayo:I told you need a nigga in the hood telling you, yo listen, I know your rights. You gotta know, you gotta know, because especially in Harlem and New York, y 'all know these cops be bugging the fuck up. So you was taking this serious at first? Like I was saying. I told you like, all right, this is what I'm gonna do. Until I got fired from three jobs, a corporate job, and I knew this wasn't it. Man, what you got fired for, my brother? Going late. I don't like people telling me how to dress, how to talk, how to move. I gotta get up at eight o 'clock to get there at nine. I got one hour of lunch, then I gotta get off at five.
16:35By the time I get home, I can't even do what I want to do. I got to go to sleep to get work the next day. Some of us is not meant for a nine to five. So I get you. I get you. Nah, but to each his own. But nine to fives wasn't for me. No, I get it. I get it. I get it. So.
16:47Tony Yayo:Damn, I think I haven't met a rapper with a bachelor's degree. Nah, you messin' up. There's a bunch. We met a few. I went to Penn State. I mean, are you with the Penn State? Shit. I remember going to a football game back in the days. That's crazy. Yeah, now the football games used to be crazy. Shout out to Penn State University. Shout out to PSU, Blue and White. Then you did a deal with Empire and all that too, right? Yeah, 100%. Shout out to Gazi, Nima, Tina, Bobby, Tash. Shout out to Gazi, Nima, Bobby, the whole game. See, to all you rappers out there, my man Fergie Baby know how to read that contract.
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17:17Tony Yayo:Real quick, man. Oh, facts. Facts. That's crazy. To have a bachelor's degree, I feel like that, to be an artist, it's going to get you in a lot more rooms. Nah, it's definitely. And you're going to definitely know your business. Yeah, for sure. 100%, man. So how's the deal with Empire? Empire, you feeling over there, man? Shout out to Empire. I love Empire right now, man. Shout out to, like you said, Ghazi, Nima, Tina, Bobby, Tash, Joya, Abe. And like I said, I met Cajun. I never heard of her say all these names. That's the family over there. Empire is the family, man. That's why I met Cajun now.
17:44Tony Yayo:Gang over there, man. I met Cajun there, yeah. So I got, it's home. That's the family over there, man. We took it over and I got full support from Empire at this point, you know what I'm saying? So we don't, they understand me. They let me do whatever I want. They trust the process and they add fuel to the fire. No, they get it. They get it over there. I didn't even know you signed to Empire, that's dope man. Manage me over here like, tell him, tell him. Oh yeah, tell him how you got signed. That's cool, Jeff. Tell him how, tell him how. How you got signed, work. So how did Empire get up on you?
18:12All right, so I was an intern at Empire. Oh, okay. Look at that. For me, I got a situation. What?
18:18Tony Yayo:This nigga's like Kanye West. Criminal justice, the intern. I'm bugging right now. Intern. Yeah, what about both of them? Criminal justice, five from B Corpies. This is strategic. Smart as hell. Strategic, you gotta move strategic out here, man. but I got an intern, so I'm like, oh, I got a building to be an intern at Empire? Oh yeah, let's do this. So that's why I met Cage, and he was the head producer and engineer at the time. So basically, I'm assisting him as an intern. Not getting no paper, I'm in here. Whenever he done with clients, you workin'. What the fuck made you be an intern though?
18:46Tony Yayo:Cause I wanna be in the field. You had a, obviously with a degree, you got a nice corporate job. You like, yo, man. Oh, I see why you gain 50 % of them records, nigga. Fuck just making the beats. You damn near put them on, nigga. That's right. She's all good, I respect that, girl. That's it. I see now, I understand, I get it. I get it. This is all unexpected though. I get it. First of all, I'm just seeing a fly Harlem nigga just get money. That's it. That's what I'm thinking in the video. And then, yo, he got a bachelor's degree. Word? That's different. Then, yo, I had a corporate job. You could have just got corporate money and made money and retire, do whatever you want to.
19:20Tony Yayo:You young, but in the future, nah, fuck that. I can't be controlled. Then, you a fucking intern at - But you're a producer. Yeah. So when we call him a Vanessa and a hustler? Oh yeah, he's Vanessa and a hustler. That's a fact. Nah, facts. Damn, nigga. So yeah. And a college graduate. And a college graduate. My bad. Hell yeah. So when he done with his clients, we go in there and record. And we kept running it up, doing my mix-sapes in there, free studio time. Everybody that's coming in from the top of the artists, the top tier levels. I'm meeting them. Hey, my name is Fergie baby. I'm an intern, but I'm also an artist.
19:56I introduced myself, putting people on their radar. after Ra kept running it up, there was an office side. If y 'all been on Empire, it was a studio side, an office side. Yeah, facts, facts. I would go on the office side as an employee and shoot videos. Am I supposed to do that? Hell no. Who are you to go in an office and shoot a video of your own music? Like you supposed to be working. Exactly. So it went to HR and then went to Nima Desk.
20:16Tony Yayo:So you basically was hustling in Empire, like fucking I'm a intern. You said it went to Nima Desk. That's a Harlem nigga for you, bro. It went to Nima Desk. It went to Nima Desk. They wanted to write me up and fire me. Nima. Oh, Nima was ready to fire you? Hold on, no, the HR, it's like, yo, we got to report this. Nima goes - What the fuck going on over here? So, look, look. What the fuck he think he is, Nima? All right, but go ahead. So, hold on. So, Nima goes, wait, who's shooting? He's like, oh, he works there in there. Oh, he an artist? He an artist? Wait, he works for us? He didn't even know.
20:44He like, he work for us? He start going into my music, my catalog. Nigga, sign that. Sign him right now. Look at that. And kept my job. So, now I'm an artist and I kept my job as an intern, but they bumped me from an intern to nine assistants, so I'm getting paid as an artist. Look at that. Shout out to Nima. Empire definitely spreads the love.
21:03Tony Yayo:I was getting checks. I love the Brooklyn bank. I love the Brooklyn bank. So you know what that is? That's that New York Harlem hustle, man. Facts. I get it. I got to get to it, man. Intern and he was shooting videos in there. How long he was rapping for? 2018 for real. 2018. I got in there about like 2020, 2021. After the pandemic, they opened back up. And 2021, I started interning. And then from that point on, we like, yo, we gonna make a pact. Like, we gonna get this work done and we gonna run this whole office. And exactly what we did years later. Why? How was it like working with my nigga, A$AP Ferg?
21:36Oh, shout out Ferg, bro. That's another like big bro figure. A legend, for real. A legend, you were. Shout out to A$AP Ferg. And he just been fully supportive with the record, outside the record. I pull up on him. We chop it up. We have real conversations. Like, shout out to Ferg, man. Like, I appreciate you. That's dope.
21:50Tony Yayo:How's it feel getting cosigns by all these legends? It's A$AP Ferg, Cam, you on Big L album. How you feel as an artist, man? It's a testament. Like I said, we doing what we supposed to do, and this is for us. We destined. We gonna keep upping it and be authentic as possible, but this is only the beginning, bro. We about to turn up. With some of the young artists out there right now that you fucking with from New York, who you feeling right now? I fuck with King B-Mo. Shout out to my nigga, King B-Mo. East New York. You almost put me on a King B-Mo. That's East New York Brooklyn zone. We gonna have him on the show too.
22:25Tony Yayo:We gonna get you up there. He's telling him the fuck up. I put him on the Fergie baby. He definitely did. Oh well. I put him on the Fergie baby. He did. He did. That's a fact. He put me on the King B-mo. I put him on the Fergie. That's fire. That's fire. Damn. I saw y 'all in the rap radar too doing y 'all thing. I saw y 'all going back and - But I put him on like yo. That's a fact. This nigga from Harlem. He's one of them. And he kept telling me King B-mo. Y 'all supposed to be doing a project together. Yeah, that's my brother. We came in and shit together. So it's like, we made a pact too. Like whoever get there first, we're going to put each other on.
22:54So we about to run it up with us too. So, you know, shout out to him. Shout out B-Mo. B-Mo doing Summer Jam. You doing Summer Jam? Of course. You doing Summer Jam too, right? That's right. Both of y 'all doing Summer Jam. How that feel? I know that feel good. I feel marvelous. I know that feel good. Definitely, man. Like sick. Finally. But like I said, it's happening, man. I'm blessed. I'm blessed. You know what I'm saying? Definitely, definitely, man. Whoa. Everything's blessed up, bro.
23:16Tony Yayo:You got a crazy story, man. That shit crazy. Interns just taking over the building that night. Like, fuck it. Nah, real shit though. Nah, that's fire, man. And shout out to the Empire, because they could've dead curved. They could've dead said, nah, you disrespecting. Nah, Empire keep it 100, man. Nah, they did, because they understand independent artists. They see what grind I was on. They keep it a thousand. They supported it full way. So, again, shout out to Empire. Shout out to K2, because without K2, you wouldn't be acting like a mad scientist in there, because we'd be cooking, man. So you think independent is better than major?
23:48Tony Yayo:You will never go for a major deal app like - Nah, it depends like we talked about. It depends on your contract. Depends what they offer. It depends on when we negotiate. So I ain't going to sit here and shoot myself in the foot. Like I will never go down there. Empire do great deal. Yeah, Empire is 30 right now. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, respectfully, respectfully. They do great deals. Shout out to Empire. They do great deals. No, they giving millions away too. Like it feels like a major deal. But I'm just saying, would you like, as your career goes on, would you ever think about going to a major label if they had the right money?
24:13Maybe. And the right creative control, yeah. The right marketer and all that, yeah, for sure. But right now, I'm content. I'm good with Empire right now. Until we finish out the deal, then we can see if we can renegotiate or move on. Know what I'm saying?
24:27Tony Yayo:And they turn the lights on, so you're going to have a lot of loyalty to them. I know niggas that left Empire, they thought the grass is green on the other side, and they regret it. Mm. See? They regret it like a motherfucker. You been in the game for a minute, so you seen it. I've been around the block, yeah. You seen it. They regret it. Yeah, shout out to guys here in Neema. Yeah, for sure. They know what the fuck they doing over here. Yeah, they do. They do what they do. I always felt opening for 50 Cent in Cooney Island, man. Yo, 50, where you at, man? Nah, shout out to you, 50, man. Like I said, I was raised in a 50 house.
24:57Like, you know what I'm saying? Y 'all was so seductive. And then, you know, you got, obviously it came later with the rap ups. Y 'all in my household. So it's just like, this is also a full circle moment. And just to open up for 50 is like, again, it's God written. Like it's supposed to happen, bro. Facts. So, like, even here, this is full circle, bro.
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27:51Let's think top five.
27:54Tony Yayo:Harlem. You got to throw a big L on there. What are you saying now? Top five artists or lyricists? No, I'm saying, I would say just the top five, like, because we could go, you know what I'm saying, into the new artists. Okay. But top five Harlem, you would say Mace, right? You're going to give yours. You don't, don't, don't tell. No, I won't give Mace though. You give me yours, then he going to give his. What are you talking about? I'm giving, I said you're going to say Mace. Mace, what's wrong with you saying that? No, I ain't saying that. Give me your top five. All right, that's me giving my top five, brother.
28:31Tony Yayo:I would say Mace. You gotta throw Cam on there. Big L.
28:41Tony Yayo:I always not, because I always get to the three, like right there. And then I'm thinking more artists in Harlem. Oh shit, who else from Harlem? The Mob, A$AP Mob. Oh yeah, A$AP Mob. You know, A$AP Rocky, A$AP Ferg, all of them as one. And then fuck, nah, because - You go A$AP, he go, oh yeah, A$AP mob. Nah, nah, listen, nah. Nah, you know what it was about A$AP Rocky? You go free-staffing. And I'ma tell you, I'ma tell you what I liked about A$AP Rocky and what made them special in Harlem. Is because they was Harlem niggas, but they had a whole different sound. Facts. It wasn't like Akim or Mace or nothing like that, or even a big L.
29:21Tony Yayo:I'm that Harlem motherfucker. They had like a more down South, slow down shit. They was fucking with the syrup and shit. They was on some down South shit down there. And it not only catch the hood, it caused suburbia too. The white kids, everybody loved it. It was fucking with Soho. Because it was dressing in Rick Owens, Margella and all that. See? I wouldn't even know that. It was all in that high end fashion. So they was already relating to the kids, like the Sohos and like you said, the suburban kids and also the hood too, because they from Harlem. Yo bro. They had all... I'm going to tell you a story about A$AP Rocky.
29:55Tony Yayo:We was at an event, right? So it's me, Snoop Dogg, 50. It's like a movie, right? So the nigga A$AP Rocky was the first nigga I seen with a man purse. I swear to God, niggas was laughing at him. Snoop, 50 niggas, uh-uh. I'm looking like, what the fuck is that? Niggas is looking like they never seen it. You could ask A$AP Rocky, pull me to the side and say, yeah, yo, I know niggas don't know what I'm doing, but watch. And that's when I was like, damn, all them niggas know fashion. Fast forward, niggas got the pistols in them shits. You know what I'm saying? You ain't lying about that. I'm keeping it real though.
30:30Tony Yayo:He was the first nigga I seen with that. Allegedly. You know what I'm saying? Niggas got some pistoli in them shit. Facts, facts. But he definitely sets trends, bro. You gotta give it up, especially in the fashion vibe, you gotta give it up to the mall. And rock him first. So he ain't even got a top five in Harlem. Who your top five, bro? No, I just gave you my top five. No order, no order. Like you said, Mace, Kim. Big L? Nah, yeah, Big L. Here you go again. I thought he was on his album. I thought he was on his album. Big L. I will put Joel's. And then I always vary for my five. It's either going to be, she not a rapper, but I got to put TT in there.
31:10As far as top five, like TT, Tiana Taylor. Oh, Tiana Taylor. Like not rappers. If you want to say just impact and just figures as far as music.
31:19Tony Yayo:Oh yeah, you got to put Tiana Taylor. I don't know. That's just a personal favor for me. I might get cut for that, but TT's in my five, but then it's changed from like the Rockies and Ferris. Now you got to throw Dipset on there. because you think about this you got Kim Mace um A$AP Rock in them Big L and Dipset basically I can't knock Dipset even though niggas Dipset is legendary you already know can't knock Dipset Dipset was like the Holy Grail waking up I mean not waking up raising up in Harlem like they was dumb you know what I'm saying from the lingo to the fashion everything you know so shout out to Dipset fucking red bandana on the rims Yeah, they was wildin', they was wildin'.
32:00Tony Yayo:They was ahead of the game, fashion and online. Well... Mm-hmm, that's a fact.
32:08I'm not putting Dougie in my fall. You buggin'. Damn, look, I knew he was gonna say something. His whole top five. Buggin' now, nigga!
32:16Tony Yayo:Yeah, how you got Dougie down your fall? What happened? What, nigga? I'm still playing, um, keep right? Y 'all put Kumo D? Kumo D's from Harlem too? Is he from Marlon? Yeah, I think he's from Marlon. But I would put him in my top five in like the 80s, but Dougie Fresh definitely. You got Dougie Fresh at all top? So who you taking out? Yeah, you got to take out somebody. Dougie Fresh. So who you taking out? Yeah. No, I'm not taking... Look, you got two eras. I always got my top five like in the 80s. You moving the goalposts, man. Always. You moving the goalposts. No, because really top five is really stupid because it's really like a top 10, top 20.
32:50Tony Yayo:But when I say top five, like when I go to 80s, I'm going to go Dougie Fresh. You know what I'm saying? And all that. And fucking Kumo D, you said it's from all of them. You sure? I spoke to DJ Self. He told me that. DJ Self, is it Kumo D from home? And now he gonna say - Yeah, he from home, right? No, I got the 80s. DJ Self put me on the diet. I didn't know. You hear me? This nigga asks every guest, right? Pertaining to who they are, what they top five is, right? And now he gonna say, yo, top five is stupid, but I just ask it anyway. No, because look, when you say top five, right? You might get confused because we got a top five from the 80s, 90s, and now.
33:28Tony Yayo:Rob Markman No, niggas just ask which shit top five of all time though. Rob Markman That's how you break it down. Rob Markman No, but there's all time. Like if you go to the 80s, you're going to put Dougie Fresh in there, nigga. Rob Markman Nah, I ain't putting Dougie Fresh in my old time for top five. I'm not. Rob Markman I'm not saying, look, from the 80s? Not now. Rob Markman I don't give a fuck if it was in the 60s, 70s. I'm not putting Dougie Fresh. Rob Markman You got some smoke with Dougie Fresh. Rob Markman Nah, nah, nah, nah. That's the legend. No, I do not got no smoke. I like this. I knew that was going to happen.
33:53I knew that was going to happen. That's the legend. Don't get it twisted. You are terrific. I knew that was going to happen. Respectfully. That's the legend, bro. He just not in my farm. I'm a little younger than y 'all. I'm a little younger than y 'all.
34:05Tony Yayo:Dougie Fresh is not in my farm. I'm saying in the 80s, yes, you 25, so you don't know about Dougie Fresh. 25, 26, whatever. Listen, you don't know about Dougie Fresh to say, yo, he's not in my top. I understand, but he's top five, nigga. What's up? No, he might have a top five from old school Harlem rappers. Do you? He just said no. Nah, not really. My five is my five. So like the big L man, you know what I'm saying? He don't know about Dougie Fresh. He don't even want to hear about Dougie Fresh. The way he was acting, right? Nah, respectfully, man. That's the legend, man. He not in my personal five.
34:39Respectfully. They gon' come for you, man. They gon' come for you, Paul.
34:45Tony Yayo:Yo listen, Dougie Fresh nigga is the first nigga kinda really, when you really think about it from Harlem. Like it was the nigga had the dances, the fly shit. Nah, he had it, he had it from what I know. He had hits. For sure, nah he did, he did. I would never discredit him. But you young though, you young. Well yeah, I ain't playing, yeah you feel me? I wanna play in my car. Who you like now? Cause I fuck with you and Chuck Cash. Any other artists I don't know about? Like I said, All To All Mo. I got, who else? Kai Cash, Kaki Kai. It's just a couple of dope new artists right now. We got the Nico Brams.
35:21It's a couple. It's a couple. Like I said, BMO, Bass Swag. King BMO. Bass Swag, you feel me? Chow Lee, Cash. Yeah, but I feel like I'm on the hip hop rapping. I'm leading that. I feel like I'm one of them.
35:36Tony Yayo:Talk about the album, because I know you told me you had a big record with Max B. Let's talk about that, man. Gaudis from Harlem, On Away, the album. Got features from Max, Cam, A$AP Ferg, Davey's, Neek Bucks, Fat Man Scoop. Rest in peace, Fat Man Scoop. Fat Man Scoop? Yeah. Yeah. Sam, I got beats from Six Figure Digger, Damn Grease, Cajun of course, Hip Boy, Ilmon. Oh, Hip Boy, Ilmon? Damn. Yeah, I got some more. Yeah, this album ought to be crazy. How do you know about them producers? you kind of didn't know about them. Come on. You got to know. And then I got skits from Freaky Ziki, Bloody O.
36:15I got it straight Harlem. Everything Harlem. Harlem. You're going to feel like you're going to smell Harlem, you're going to see Harlem from the top to bottom of all features. Rest in peace to Fat Man.
36:24Tony Yayo:Scoop, how did that come across? Shout out to Son C, Six Figure Digger, Bobby Fischer. We was doing a record. Yeah, Six Figure did a record with me called the Harlem Two Step and it's going crazy. Funk Flex has been playing it. And we like, yo, something is missing on the hook. So I guess Bobby was like, I got a, I got an idea. Let's try to see if we get some fat man vocals. So we, we hit up the state, we hit up Sean C and it was all down for it. They sent it over and it's in the works. I got to learn how to do all that get light shit. Nah, don't get light. I got my man, Ori and all that get light.
36:55I don't get light. I support that. I support that. I support to get like community heavy.
36:59Tony Yayo:Like I'm just not like the Harlem shake and all that, like toe, like there's a new dance called get light. You don't know. Yo, for real? Snigger don't know nothing, nigga. Nah, I didn't know. Snigger don't know nothing, bro. You out there, you out there. Brooklyn nigga only. They Get Light. He know, but don't know how to. You don't know the name, but you sold the dance. Yeah, you definitely did. I wish I knew how to do that shit, nigga. How he don't know about Get Light? Nah, Get Light, that's the uptown culture right there. Trying to dance for the youngin'. What's the, I know my homegirl from the Chicken Noodle Soup.
37:30Tony Yayo:What's her name again? Lois? Young B. Young B, right? Yeah, Young B. and I know she had a beef with the other girl about that other song. What's that song? Huh? Tell me, Jazz. Tell me about the beef with that. But what? They had two hit records, though. What was the hit record that the other girl... Chicken Noodle Soup and 5G's. I know Chicken Noodle Soup, but the other one... 5G's. You can't do the 5G's. Oh, please. Can't do the 5G's. Oh, please. Y 'all just be criminal. Yeah, because I know she was coming out to that. Rob Markman, Yo, I thought, at first I thought that was one person. I ain't gonna lie.
38:10I'm not gonna lie. Until I met both of them recently, I'm like, oh, okay. Not just heard of the scandal, but I don't try to get into shit like that.
38:16Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, I know she was bringing out her 5G song. Rob Markman, No, they doing their thing, man. Shout out to them. Rob Markman, Because one thing about Harlem is all about like, it's fashion, the dancing, and don't play Harlem. Rob Markman, Just because this nigga get light, don't mean he won't shoot you. Just remember that. A lot of gangstans get like, that's what I'm saying. Like just the whole energy. So I know what, you know, the Fat Man School record is out of here for you. So you excited about the album, man? Talk about the process and how's things going with Empire. It's good. Like the album has been taking a little minute.
38:49I'm ready to pass on, but it's just a blessing. It's a blessing just creating this album. It's my debut album, song with a label. You know, God is from Harlem. I want to make a list. Empire, let's make this shit look good, baby. They got to make it look good. but it's like my love story that the good, the bad, the ugly about Harlem, man. And it's, I'm a storyteller. You gonna hear me pop on my shit as a regular Harlem nigga. And we, y 'all gonna feel me on that. You know what I'm saying? Y 'all gonna feel my roots.
39:12Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - So as for the marketing, I know you got the perfect team. What's the plans? Cause I see you like on the gram. I see you shooting the videos back to back. Everything looks crispy. Outfits looks good. You looking like you rich and ready. You know, and millions come, well Empire gave you the bag so we know you rich. But what's the plans, when you wanna drop, like how you wanna have the rollout? Do you wanna go, I seen you on the radar. Shout out to them. Are you gonna go to Flex, you gonna try to go to radio? Yeah, this is part of the rollout right here, respectfully, you know what I'm saying?
39:44So we on the medium run right now. Shout out to y 'all for getting me up here. Like I said, y 'all. All the new dope artists from New York City want y 'all up here. King BMO, you be up here next, my guy. Come on, man. BMO, you put me on. He was supposed to chill. He was supposed to come and just watch the interview and meet y 'all, but he ain't thinking about it. Regardless of the fact, yeah, I'm coming out and doing a release party that I want y 'all there. It's going to be August 6th. We rented out our whole church.
40:07Tony Yayo:What? Yeah, Gardasome Hallow, man. Church? Yeah. That's the name of the album, Gardasome Hallow. Gardasome Hallow. World. So there ain't going to be no smoky to this? Nah. Just damn, man. I'm going to be outside like this. Yo, turn that shit up, nigga. Amen. I definitely want y 'all in. See, what makes you think of stuff like that? Like, that's just us. We always thinking out the box. Like who rents out a whole church for their release party? So, you know, we trying to be different. We want y 'all to fill our experience and woken y 'all to our world. It's Harlem. That's crazy, man. An album, Listen to Party with no smoking, nigga.
40:49That's tough. That's tough. I ain't gonna hold you. Yeah, I don't give a fuck what you say. No drinking either. No, no, we got mad liquor. Nah, we got - Y 'all gonna drink in the church? Yeah. Oh man, God, I won't be there, God. I won't be there. You talking about smoking though, you want to smoke in the church? I said outside. I'm gonna be outside when I'm drinking my smoke. Nah, we gonna drink, we gonna drink, man. If it ain't wine, I don't know, man. God blessing us to be in there, man. He just wanted to wine, man. You feel what I'm trying to say? We're going to win the brands in this shit, man.
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43:20Tony Yayo:Terms apply. How's the new place? Get your Wi-Fi figured out? I got T-Mobile 5G home internet and I'm loving it. It's the fastest 5G home internet. My old provider was so slow. Mine is slow. And only$35 a month. Do I need to try this? Try it for 15 days. Love it or get your money back. I love it already. There are over 250 reasons to join T-Mobile. Find yours and check availability at t-mobile.com slash home internet. This is according to Oculus Speed Test Intelligence. Date a second half of 2025. All rates reserved. Redeemed money back guarantee within 30 days of cancellation. I love the food, right?
43:55Tony Yayo:I go to Harlem. There's so much good food there, man. You got the Spanish spots. You got the tofu spots. You got just all kinds of food in Harlem. When I go to Harlem, where'd I go for the best like chopped cheese, Jamaican food, soul food? I keep going to Lighthouse and same shit. That's my shit too though. I ain't gonna see. I was gonna say Melba's. You heard? I was gonna say her. You gotta go to, they was getting me at this. You gotta go to Fumo. You gotta go to Panda. You gotta go to Ricardos. You know what I'm saying? I like Angel of Harlem. That's like a good brunch spot. Like again, Melba's is another one.
44:30You know what I'm saying? There's a couple. There's a new place called Lola's that they replaced from Skinny Cantina. It's like they're upper echelon now. You know what I'm saying? The Court Street for Panda. Where's the best chopped cheese from, though? I don't eat chopped cheese. I get the bacon, nigga, cheese, though. Somebody can tell me.
44:43Tony Yayo:Somebody, you know. I don't really eat. Yeah, they'll go Hodgie's. But for bacon, nigga, cheese, I go to Harlem Breakfast Club or Dirty Kitchen. You get the Spanish coffee sometimes in the morning? Nah, I get lemon ginger tea, though. With a lot of honey. And some couple of sugars. That shit. You heard tea always gonna get you right. Drink some tea y 'all, world. Carnation milk and all that shit. You don't know about that. So what artists you wanna work with that you ain't work with yet, man? Who you wanna work with, man? Y 'all niggas, man. What we getting on? Okay, that's easy, man. That's a layup, man.
45:18Now I know you on our show, so you gonna say that, but besides us nigga, who you wanna work with, man? Nah, for real though, that I show. Yeah. Also too, big extra plug for me. I want to do one with Busta, Schoolboy Q, Kendrick. It's a couple, bro. Like I even want the girl, Sexy Rad. Got you. You know what I'm saying? You used to get a lot of Busta comparisons, right? Yeah. People used to say you used to, they remind them of Busta and all that a lot. I get the Busta's in respectfully Big Am a lot. I get those comparisons. Got you, got you. But yeah, I just want to get in this industry and just make music with a lot of people.
45:56I mean, it's like we could go wherever. We go Latin, we go pop, go dance. You know what I'm saying? That one, bro. Crossover.
46:04Tony Yayo:That's what I like, bro. Overseas records, unconscious. You just named Big X the plug. He has some hit records. Nah, yeah. Big X is tough, man. It's mad people out there. G Herbo, you know? I'm going to talk. Benny the Butcher. You know what I'm saying? So I want to talk, man. Let's have fun. Let's go on wax. Let's talk. So who's from Alien was on the album? Max B? Max B, Cam, Ferg, Davies, Nick Bucks, Fat Man Scoop, my man Luca, he's from Harlem as well. Prep Banks is on the Deluxe. I said Nick. Yeah. That's for the most part. For me, that's straight Harlem. What's the date? What's that date?
46:44August. I'm going to say August right now. August, baby. Yeah, because I keep telling y 'all dates, it ain't going right right now. You all right? So I'm just going to let y 'all know. Why you say that though? Is it the way you want to roll it out? Yeah, we ain't about to rush. This my baby. This my first album. So it's like, if I got to keep pushing it back, I ain't gonna fuck. Because this shit got to be a statement. You know what I'm saying? You waiting for a couple more features? Something you're scheming on? Nah, the features is dead. Nah, actually, no. I want Tiana Taylor. Word. I'm going to manifest that.
47:10Okay, I got you. Got you. Yeah. So you a little busy right now. I know, I know. It's going to happen at the right time. Yeah, it's all right. It's all good. That's a fact. That's real true. But speaking into it, it's all good. Dapper Dan, I want you to open up for the tape. I need you to narrate something, man. Oh man, that'd be dope. And I would say, yeah, Rocky, what's up, man? So those are the three. But other than that, the feature part is done. It's just me like, yo, I need two more bangers. That's how I feel right now. I need two more.
47:38Tony Yayo:And this is what I mean about Harlem and the creative shit, right? You wanna do it in the church, right? Even though we can't smoke, I agree with you on that. Can't smoke or drink, that's crazy. Y 'all were no drinking in the church, man. Yeah, no drinking in the church for me. So if y 'all was able to smoke, y 'all would have smoked in the church? I wouldn't have did it. I would have, I probably would have still went outside and said, just keep the doors open, man. Cause God is good, man. Yeah, right, really though, for real for me. I'm like, I respect the house, man. But we, you feel me, we gonna do it right.
48:05We gonna respect the Lord house.
48:07Tony Yayo:Cause we came out, me, 50, and Murder, we came out for A$AP Rocky show. And like, it was some shit we never experienced. Rob Markman - He just says a little different - Rob Markman - Open the mosh pit. He had niggas with like white T's on. Rob Markman - Yeah. Rob Markman - Everything was like - Rob Markman - Yo, the nigga had - Rob Markman - The helicopter was crazy. Rob Markman - With the bazooka mic. Rob Markman - Yeah, the bazooka mic is crazy. Rob Markman - Yeah, the bazooka mic is crazy. Rob Markman - You got an RPG mic. Rob Markman - What the fuck? Rob Markman - And he rapping to them. Rob Markman - Then A$AP Rocky got the bullhorn microphone.
48:37Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, me and 50 and Murda back there looking like, yo, we never seen no shit like this. Like, you know, nigga come out rapping or whatever. But everything was like stopping and niggas was like, open the Mars pit. That was crazy. It was. The Mars pit shit with the niggas with like the white tees, the ski mask. It was crazy for me. I'm like, yo, this nigga A$AP Rocky is really - He got a coat. Sometimes, yeah. Like, sometimes like people that just, I like artists that have that cult following too. Rob Markman - Mm-hmm. Rob Markman - When I look at A$AP Rocky and rest in peace A$AP Yams, they got a cult following forever.
49:18Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Yeah, they do. Rob Markman - They overseas, everywhere they can perform. When you hear Ferg, he makes records that rock in a club for life. Rob Markman - Yeah. Rob Markman - Like shit. Rob Markman - Everything be just kind of like a lot of creative shit going on. Rob Markman - Right. Rob Markman - And that's what I feel with you. Like when I seen your videos in Harlem River Drive and you throwing the money out the car and you got the cheetah print jacket on and you talking that shit and the beat is crazy. That was real money y 'all was throwing out the car? Hell no. Oh shit. Hey, man fool, why you tell that murder that, man?
49:49He was about to say, hell yeah, nigga. What the fuck you think? This nigga throwing fake money? Yeah, nigga, yeah, it was fake money. Hell yeah, I thought I was throwing$900 bills out. This is for the fun. I'ma keep it a buck. I don't give a fuck for no, you feel me?
50:00Tony Yayo:Nah, I love that. Well, as you should, nigga, it's all good. I was answering the question. Nah, yeah, you good. It was all good. What was all about the visual? You thought it was the one? But now he wanna switch it up. What? Now he wanna switch it up. Now he's about the visual. All them shit. Hundred dollar bills is crazy. That's my man. Yo, Vance, yo, you gotta plug us in. My man gonna plug me in with Vance, but I ain't gonna lie. Murda had a mean Vance jacket. I need one of them shits. I ain't gonna lie. Oh yeah, I had the Bronx one for me. Yeah, I got my own team coming on. All them set a lot of trends.
50:31Tony Yayo:You think they said, name some trends you think Vance and his one Harlem set? Nah. Name some trends you think Harlem set as clothes wise. Big East. It's an East Harlem thing. I don't like, obviously the lovers, you know, we, I don't want to say we started it, but we made it like the Ava Rex, the Vance's, the Pac. He made it argue with you. You see that nigga? That nigga said what level. I was going to give you Vance's. I ain't. He tried to ask you a question to set you up, bro. Don't fall for that. Nah, nah, but listen, you see what I said? I said we maybe didn't start it, but we made it more prominent.
51:02Yes, we did. What? The leathers.
51:04Tony Yayo:Which one? I would say Vance. I told you all the leathers. Vance level. Everybody up in that Ava Rex and all that. Talk to them, man. Vance and all that. Man, talk to these young niggas, Jay. Fuck wrong with this young niggas. I feel like Harlem took it to another level, though. You going to give them biggies? Nah, you got to give us biggies. We'll give you biggies. Vance, I'll give you Vance, but I'm not giving you Ava Rex and all that shit. And Pele, Pele's and all that shit. I said we didn't start it. I said we took it to another level. That's all I said. That's all I said. That's all I said.
51:33Tony Yayo:Y 'all have Vancey. Give me something else y 'all do. There you go, yeah. Why you casting? You ain't gonna let some of you like that, yeah, yeah. That's sick of his, son. Y 'all have Vancey. What else, man? We did a - And I'll give y 'all another thing. Harlem niggas know how to lace they sneakers the right way. Like, y 'all - You feelin' that shit on these niggas? Look at these shits. You go all up? Harlem niggas, y 'all the best at lacing y 'all sneakers. We don't, that's the problem. This shit just hang. Yeah, but y 'all niggas is known for that. Holla, that's a fact. It's a fact. You fly, man, and it's comfortable.
52:06So look, man, how it felt your journey and all that, and you just did Summer Jam. How the fuck it felt from all the intern shit you was talking about, criminal justice, bachelor's degree, getting fired from three jobs, getting signed to Empire, and then you do Summer Jam. How that shit felt? God is good, man. You know what I'm saying? It was a beautiful moment. Shout out to Funk Flex. Shout out to Nitty. Shout out to Hot Nile. It was beautiful, bro. It was no feeling like that, bro. This is summer jam. So we all used to go there as a kid and watch it. You know what I'm saying? So now I'm on stage.
52:45It's crazy. It still feel fake. All of this still feel fake. We talk about it all the time, me and my man Cajun. This feel like a movie, bro. Like last night. Yesterday feel like a movie. Life is just crazy. It is fake because you ain't do summer jam. Yeah, nigga, it's pre-recorded. Yeah, I know that. This nigga play all day. Yo, don't let this shit fool you. This nigga play all day. I'm trying to go with the vibe, and this nigga wanna fuck it up again. You know what I mean? This nigga's crazy, you all right? Nah, I still love, though, man. I had to go with the strip. My son was going there. I was going there.
53:20You feel me?
53:21Tony Yayo:I put him on. Now y 'all Empire brothers. I was going into that world. Yo, man, that's all good. I love it. I love it. I'm tired, man. Definitely, man. Shout out to fucking Harlem's finest in this motherfucker. The new generation of Harlem. Shout out to everybody. Make sure y 'all like, share, and subscribe. And to all you new artists, if niggas don't believe in your dreams, fuck them. Oh. Fuckers ain't talking about Brooklyn, Harlem, Queens.
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Harlem rapper Fergie Baby joins Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda to explain how he went from earning a criminal justice degree and getting fired from three corporate jobs to becoming an unpaid Empire intern and eventually signing with the label. He also discusses Cam’ron’s co-sign, appearing on a Big L album, working with A$AP Ferg, opening for 50 Cent, his upcoming album God Is From Harlem, collaborations with Max B and Fatman Scoop, Harlem’s greatest artists, A$AP Rocky’s influence on fashion and preparing for Summer Jam.
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