The Real Report - Gillie & Wallo on Fake Streams, Max B vs Big Daddy Kane, Peter Gunz being the King of New York, & Jay-Z’s Freestyle

18:56The Roots. Yeah, The Roots. And - You gonna put Will Smith on there? Will Smith. Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince. Yeah, Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince. Yeah.

19:09Tony Yayo:Definitely. Major figure, remember that song? Dead Man Walking, remember that? That was that shit. You could never get a sample. That beat was so hard. That was my shit. I ain't gonna lie. Niggas never sampled that beat right there though. You can never find an instrumental to it. Y 'all be tapped in with all the young artists like that, right? Just all the artists, period. Do y 'all think artists today really need the radio or this podcast should take over? You think the podcast should take over? I think if you want to be a star, you know what I mean? You don't need the radio. I think if you want to be a superstar, you need the radio.

19:48difference. You need everything. You got streaming stars and you got radio star. The radio star, everybody know who that person is. They don't know the streaming star. Because a lot of times you could be streaming big and see the radio really could get it out there on another level. Because the streams a lot of times could be bots. You can't bot the radio. Like a lot of people got fake streams. You see what I'm saying?

20:13Tony Yayo:I mean, you could pay for play on the radio too. No, no, no. No, no, but this is what I'm saying. This shit really getting played. This shit really getting played. A bunch of real audience. On the bots, this shit won't be getting played. I know what you mean. You know what I'm saying? So the bot game has got so crazy. It's crazy. You got bots for everything. You got bots for music. You got bots for views. You got bots for podcast downloads. You got bots for everything. It's bots everywhere. We not doing no bots. I ain't saying y 'all is. I'm just saying. It's bots for everything. Got you. You know what I'm saying?

20:49So it was like, you got people out here now. And I remember one time me and Cuzz in the studio having a conversation. He was like, Cuzz, what sense do it makes that you would have bots on your music? And nobody's listening to your music, so that means nobody can really book you for a show. Nobody, no promoter is looking and saying, oh, he got this many views. Oh, he got, they not doing that to book you for no show. No booking agents Hard ticket You know hard ticket Booking agents Is not saying Oh That's booking No That shit gotta be real Cause when they put that link In your bio See the only thing That really matters Is the link in the bio Can you sell tickets That's it Can you sell tickets Can you sell merch All that How many Instagram followers You got How many What's the name Cause it'd be a dude That got 10 ,000 Yo that's Reggie too man I know that it is man

21:36Tony Yayo:It's not no fucking Reggie That smell like That smell like cat piss That smell like cat piss man Nah Nah You smoking New York Reggie That's that high. He don't even smoke. Don't listen. I've been around some of the greatest smokers in the world. Go ahead, man. He's smoking an African wolf. Go ahead, man. That's Cappie, man. Go ahead. That's Cappie. He would have had an Argentina jersey on if they won. That's an African wolf pussy. That's Spain. He switched up. No, I said if they would have won, he would have had an Argentina. You better believe it. No, I had to go talk to the team before the game.

22:04But listen, what I'm saying is this. This is what I'm saying, though. You, like, all that shit, you don't have a dude. There's no bullshit. You don't have a dude, a young artist. He might got 10 ,000 followers Or say he got 30 ,000 followers Then you might have an artist that got 500 ,000, 600 ,000 They can't put 500 people In a venue or five, six venues Think about it You already know this This is how I be paying attention to artists And y 'all know this All three of y 'all know Because I was in jail but y 'all know the route If you truly hot on the east coast And this ain't me saying it They gonna back me up If you're truly hot on the east coast you're supposed to be constantly booked from Boston all the way to Virginia.

22:48Y 'all know that route. Think about this. Think about how many. All three of y 'all know that route. Let me break it down even more because I've seen it. Let me break it down even more. This is how it go. You go from Boston, Connecticut, all that shit. New York, you're getting bookings. You're getting bookings all through Jersey. You're getting bookings all through PA. You're getting bookings all through Delaware. You're getting bookings Baltimore, Maryland. They're going to be Do you notice you never see none of these dudes killing them towns You notice you never see Anybody booked So when I see you And you talking all this I'm like no you got neighbor See you got different type of artists out here You got the neighborhood artists The homie artists No no you got the homie artists All your homies say you hot The homie artists is all your homies say you hot They bump your shit And they go and tell everybody that they run into He the hottest in the city He the hottest in the city But nobody else is saying that But the homie You got Then you got the neighborhood artist Where as though the neighborhood Bobbini But he can't cross over To the next neighborhood Then you got the Multi-neighborhood artist Where as though He popping in multi-neighborhoods Then you got a city artist Where everybody is playing him And everybody is bumping him But I'm gonna tell you What happened with this rap shit And nobody wanna talk about it This is what happened When me and Gil was growing up Right Prime example Right There's no bullshit Gil can attest And even back in the day It might have been 15 rappers in Philly City of Like it was like At that time It probably was the fifth largest city in America Four Fif Right Fifteen right The problem is Everybody think they can rap So this is how it go We all from the same neighborhood The only motherfucker really can rap Is Gil Say he the one that really can rap But for some reason You want to start rapping I want to start rapping I want to start rapping And it's worse when we in the crew We don't decide to come together So now it's worse So now this is how they go This is how they break down The fan base Gil really can rap But My baby mom My sister My direct homeboys Can't post them Because they gotta post me Because I rap But he really can rap Same thing with him Same thing with him Same thing with everybody else These dudes can't even get The momentum no more They used to get Because when you that boy The whole neighborhood Back behind you They got your shirts They got your logos Like dudes don't even Create logos no more They don't even create movements People want to be a part Of a movement When you doing music But they can't be a part of a movement they can't choose one because they got in the neighborhood is five different dudes that rap.

25:14And I can't, I can't hold, I can't, I can't represent his shit because my cousin got a baby by you. So I gotta be round with you or you gonna be mad. Or she gonna be mad, nigga, you ain't even holding him down. And everybody believe that rap is the way out even when they homie is corny. And instead of them telling, no, no, no, no, no. Because that's the way out. That's why everybody wanna be close to fame. And even knowing that Gil is the one, everybody weakened it, so now we weakened his support. So we can't even push him out of the neighborhood to push him through the city to push him out of the city.

25:44Because the same thing that's going on in our neighborhood is going on in 20 other neighborhoods in Philly, 20 other neighborhoods in New York. So now you got out of the 20 neighborhoods, it might be 20 hot niggas, but instead of 20 hot niggas, it's 400 niggas that want to rap. So now it's like. You said 400. No, straight up. 20 hot niggas, 400 niggas. Straight up. And nobody want to say that because we live in this fake world and the black community where as though, if you tell somebody they corny and they really corny, you tearing them down. No, no, no. You tearing the brother down. He trying to tear his dreams down.

26:15You know, we grew up, man, you can say that. And the motherfucker be like, damn, it is. Damn, let me go back to the drawing board. Yes. You can't do that now. You can't. So it's like, you can't even establish a fan base because everybody want to be a fucking rapper. And it's like. That's true. And this is what they're saying. Motherfucker be like, yeah, you really can't rap. Motherfucker be like, well, what's the name, baby? He did it. he had the machine behind him. Motherfucker had a button on him. Motherfucker pushed the button on him. Of course he made it, he probably was a plant. But they always wanna try to get an example of a trash nigga that made it, so they say, if he was trash and he's made it, I could be, they ain't gonna say they could be trash, I'm better than him.

26:53But they don't wanna put the work in, they don't know the routine, they don't know the promo run. And the problem too with boxes. Let me get one of the waters, man. Right. If.

27:02Tony Yayo:Niggas boy's stuck, Wilo boy's stuck now, nigga. If, if. That's how we gonna be next year. If. When we get them checks they get. if you got a bunch of bots on your shit, right? That motherfucker, what's his name is bad, man? That Reggie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Reggie, that Reggie, yeah. He know he be having a bad weed. His homie shot to the unit. He don't smoke like Reggie. Get the fuck out of here. He getting high right now. He smoke that bad weed, cause cat piss. Wildin' high of that shit right there. We got more Don Hoolie, or? Yeah, there's more Don Hoolie. What you about to say about them bots?

27:30With the bots, right? If we putting bots on your shit, right? And we faking the shit, right? how we know what we really doing real talk real talk see when we went in and shout out to our partners you know what I mean Epic when we went into Epic to do our deal our artist was already had a few million monthly listeners wow so when they run when they run a through oh it ain't no bots on this shit real shit they got the machines they got the machines and the labels this real shit in the podcast distributors got the machines ain't no bots on this shit this shit real numbers you feel me so it's able it's it's easy to do a deal with somebody because you got proof of concept you got real numbers you feel what i'm saying so if you you think you're going fake it to make it exactly yes it's all good throw that you think you're going to fake it to make it you ain't going to get it ain't going to happen for you it's not think about it so so so y 'all got to understand this.

28:33Y 'all got to understand this. If you think about the game, the music game, right? Right. Everything that was popping that got y 'all on is going to be the next wave to get people on. We're missing the promo run. We're missing the... Street team. Street team and the in-store. I keep telling people the new in-store is different. The in-store is... You remember how he's had the record store, Tile Records and all the mama pops? That's not where you do it no more. You do the in-store. So, prime example, if I'm an artist and I'm doing my thing, I'm getting the posters because you remember motherfuckers you had a poster labels give you posters to sign y 'all ain't had to give up probably somebody come and buy the tape or they won't even buy the tape it just be a promo run it'll be like this you got the new in stores is the streetwear stores you know with all the streetwear stores where they sell that's where you do the in stores now where you do your promo run and you got to do a promo run y 'all remember now the labels don't even have nobody this is what the labels had the labels had somebody that when you're doing your promo run say if you're running from Boston to Virginia every stop, they taking you inside that community and they knew the people to make sure you got a picture with, to make sure you was in a barbershop, to make sure you went to the soul food spot, to make sure you got some sneakers from here.

29:40That is true. They don't got that no more. That is true. So you got artists running around and they just going in the cities naked. They ain't got no liaison. Nobody's saying, damn, I got them. Because you know, a motherfucker be like this. You'll come through, motherfucker come through Philly or whatever town and you'll take that picture when somebody blocked deep as shit with niggas. Damn, he was down there. And it's like a stamp. It's like a stamp. We support you, you family when you come through here. That's how Fogo Run just used to be. I ain't gonna lie. You remember you go to a dude town, you go to a dude town and be like this.

30:10Tony Yayo:Take your most famous restaurant in the town, shit like that. And you go to - You getting co-sounded, put your picture up and everybody seeing it and buying your album. Iska Bibbles in Philly. And you go on the radio and you meeting all kinds of other people and you got to meet and greet at radio. Come on, Gilly, you remember all that shit. And back then it wasn't no bots. Niggas had to go to FYE. You had to deal with people. Yeah Go sign fucking CDs And tapes And all that shit It's just a whole different era Do you know how many You gotta think about this That actually was I felt like that era was better I had fun doing that shit Because FYE and all that shit Sign the CDs Guess what Y 'all was more out there A motherfucker I didn't talk to artists Directly Right From New York There was coming up Youngcast And I'll be like You on the clock They'll be like What's you mean on You do one more Motherfucking show In New York You do one more Back in A little alley You do one little alleyway Back Back door lounge Joint you're done You think you popping And you're not I ain't see you in Baltimore yet I ain't see you in VA yet You on the clock You better get out of New York Or you gonna die here And I'm not talking about Physically die I'm talking about Dudes would be hype Like I didn't see All this hype In like cities And I'd be like Especially New York A motherfucker would be hype Because in New York They keep filming In Brooklyn, Queens Long Island Because what happened In New York is You keep getting fake bookings The fake bookings is A nigga just wanna book you To say he brought you through So you got promoter board that's got some money.

31:30Yeah, let me book him, man. Let me get him 15th out. It ain't no hard tickets. It ain't no proof of booking. You ain't got shit. It's just you got 15 different promoters in New York that just want to book a nigga to say, yeah, I brought shorty through. You know what I mean? Son, word to life. And that's it. So a dude will wake up. Son, word to life. Son, word to life. Word to my mother. They have something like that. Son, word to life. I never heard that one. I made that up. I'm from Brooklyn. So listen, that'd be perfect. St. John's and Utica. Son, word to life. That's where he's living. at. So, but what I'm saying is, that's why if you notice, this shit getting everybody out the way.

32:04Let me tell you something. This shit getting everybody out the way. Right now, we're in the phase of y 'all paying attention. You got a bunch of motherfucking real hip-hop boys making money. You gotta think about it. It's a fan base from 24 to 45, right? Think about this. You got a bunch of young cats that like original hip-hop. right? Outside of you got a bunch of, when you seen, when you just seen the show, right? Think about it. Y 'all tour around the world with 50. And what y 'all see there, y 'all see a demographic of people who wasn't being serviced. Why you think everybody was in New York last week for whoever?

32:39You know why? You got a bunch of people that love the music, but they ain't got nothing to listen to because nobody is servicing them with that form of hip hop no more. So right now, it's wide open. It's wide open. I told Kiss this years ago. I was telling Kiss, I said, man, you can't abandon, total locks, don't abandon y 'all fan base, y 'all abandoned the fan base. So now they just sitting around like this. Motherfuckers at home. And guess what? The motherfuckers that really love this shit, the fan base, they had the money to come out to the show. Spend for three days, buy the drip. Because they've been working for 30 years.

33:11They've been working. They've even been in the streets or they've been working a job. Motherfuckers retired. And I told kids, I said -

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37:21Tony Yayo:Nah, you was wrong about the Big Daddy King shit, though. No, he was with King. I was with King. He was with King. He never seen it. He can't, not on my watch. He can't do that. Oh, all right, cool. I don't know how to pistol with him. Max B was bugging for you. Yeah, but listen, that's cool. I thought y 'all was wrong. My fault. No, it wasn't us. Why you got it? No, I thought, you was on Big Daddy Kane's side and he was like kinda more on like, Max B's. No, no, he wasn't on Max B's side. No, what I said was, Max B was just talking, Max B respected the legend too. We should. He said that. Okay, first of all, Max B said he loved.

37:51Tony Yayo:Max B and Kane actually spoke too for the record. He loved Kane, he loved Kane. No, I know, but back then. No, he said that on the show. I love Kane, I love Kane. What the conversation came from was Max B had did an interview at Complex and they named the top 50 rappers in New York and Max B wasn't on the list. So he looking at this shit like this nigga and this nigga in front of me and this nigga. So he felt some type of way, which you allowed to feel some type of way. As an artist, correct. No, definitely, I understand. You feel me? What I said is we should salute Max B for making Cain relevant in the eye of the public and social media.

38:35Definitely, definitely, they went viral.

38:37Tony Yayo:Because he had a lot of people that had to speak up now. At the end of the day, right? You brought all of these older motherfuckers, all of these dinosaurs out the woodwork. Dinosaurs. To give, to give, to give. No, for real. To give Cane a fly. But why you got to call them niggas dinosaurs? Yeah, dinosaurs see you bugging out. Don't act like we ain't old niggas. Ain't nothing wrong with it. You feel what I'm saying? Okay. So what I'm saying is they came out to give Kane his flowers, to take up for Kane, to speak up for Kane. But they wasn't doing that shit two weeks ago. It seemed like Wildo fucked with the old school more than that.

39:15Gil always say that.

39:16Tony Yayo:Gil said, he fucked with the old school. Gil said, let me finish what I'm saying. Like, Ra Kim, Big Daddy Kane. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's get this point. I want to get this point. Okay. Now Kane is all into social media. He taking over Twitter. I'm ex. He taking over Instagram. He got niggas doing freestyles and shit. Right? This is the flowers that he should have been getting. But it took for Max B to wake motherfuckers up to give niggas them flowers. Hold on. Y 'all want to sit here and name another 100 legends just that's from New York that niggas ain't talking about? Lord Finesse. Grand Puba.

39:54But sometimes it's the way you talk about it. Grand Puba everybody respect Grand Puba. But sometimes it could be the way you talk about it, right? Because Cain like family to me and I fuck with Max B. But he was a little, it could have been taken as he was a little disrespectful when he mentioned it. Okay, what I'm saying is, right, the way he delivered it was beautiful because it got the people's reaction. If he would have said, I mean, I love Kane. It wouldn't have went. It wouldn't have went. It wouldn't have went. So the way he delivered it, people needed something to build you. You know what?

40:24You a thousand percent. People needed something to feel some fucking weight about.

40:27Tony Yayo:But when you look at Big Daddy Kane, you could say he got five championship rings in hip-hop. Because there's rings. Like, some niggas would be like, well, a nigga ain't really valid to say that if he don't got that. Can I say this? Hold on. Hold on. Certain niggas ain't valid. Certain rappers are not valid to say certain things if they don't got a championship ring. I got it. Like, a nigga could be like, yeah, a whack, a G-Unit whack. But we got championship rings. Multiple. Listen, a lot of niggas ain't qualified to say certain shit about a cane or certain niggas if they don't got a championship ring.

40:59Tony Yayo:That's how I look at hip hop. So is you saying Max B not qualified? Who? Huh? Is you saying Max B not qualified? No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying. Let me say this. I'm not saying. Hold up with that. Is Max B qualified to speak on can? Do we up here feel like he's Max B? Not with a nigga with multiple championship rings. Oh, let me just say this. Let me say this. Put it like that. And I am a representat - Him and Rakim got like multiple championships. Listen, I'm the union rep of legendary classical hip hop. That's why I love you. I'm the union rep. Let me say this. Let me just say this.

41:29Let me say this. Let me say this. Now, I understand what you're saying, right? But I'm going to say this. Any legend, right? Any legend, they don't have no motherfucking problem being called out. Because the hip hop that we was, we was dealing with hip hop before was in the hip hop phase now, where if you say something, oh, you hating a nigga want to shoot you, or a nigga mad, a nigga in their feelings. Like, you got to think about it. You got to think about it. Our whole culture is a feeling culture. If you call somebody out in boxing, motherfucker in their feelings. And y 'all put out a fight.

42:04If you diss a motherfucker, you ain't hotter than me, oh, you was a hater. Now everybody in their feelings. That's not what this shit is about. Hip hop is about, listen, this is what hip hop is about. It's about battling. It's about being, it's about emceeing. It's about DJing It's about graffiti It's about Like even Even when Beat street man We came up with that It's about break dancing But what I'm saying Is this what I'm saying Cuz If I think I'm better Than Gilly Or if I don't think Gilly that I can't say that Because he played In the fucking NBA And like you think Shay Gill is Nah nigga Nah nigga Nah nigga Niggas

42:39Tony Yayo:Some niggas Are not qualified To talk about Certain niggas in hip hop Like I said I look at it like Certain niggas got Championship rings Okay I'm going to give Gilly, for example. Gilly and Major Figures had championship rings back then. Niggas was on DVDs, niggas was on Sub-Zero, this, all kinds of fucking different shit and grinded they way out. French Montana, he got a championship ring for sure. I'm going to tell you why. I seen that nigga fucking with Acorn. He was in round - Yo, why you always call him Acorn, man? That shit be having me rolling. It's Acorn. It's Acorn. Acorn. Yo, hey, fuck up, man.

43:21Tony Yayo:Yo, look, Acorn, right? I seen him hang around us. Then I seen him around Ross and them. And somebody always told me, yo, that nigga French know how to do business. Yo, French is a beast. He fucked with everybody then. He was fucking with Diddy. I seen him fuck with like five different crews. But yeah, I remember him and Max like having DVDs and being around us. And then they was around, you know, Diddy and Ross and all them niggas. Like, nigga know how to do business. That's when I learned, oh, this shit ain't really about friendship. This shit been about business. You know? And that was a nigga I could say got a championship ring because he knew how to handle business.

43:54Tony Yayo:You know what I'm saying? But certain niggas ain't qualified to say certain shit. Okay, so hold on. Let me just say this because this is perfect. To me, my opinion. Hold on. This is a perfect example. It is. Let me get a light to it, Gilly. You need a championship ring before you start talking shit. 50 Cent was winning, right? Mm-hmm. Yeo was locked up, right? Mm-hmm. Yeo came home from jail, right? Mm-hmm. I'm just saying, it was all types of rumors out there. I don't know what's true. I don't know what it's not. Yayo came home to a million dollars, right? Yayo doing this fucking thing now, right?

44:24If you was in an interview at that time, don't speak for Yayo right now. I'm taking you back to a time where the world was in the palm of your hand. You just got your first sideways, dick sucks and everything. This one, you knew the level of the game was different. They couldn't tell you nothing. First time you getting that real ice on, your bank account hitting, your records popping, you out every night performing, sideways dick sucks upon sideways dick sucks, right? And then you did an interview on a motherfucker's head. The top rappers in New York and they had African Bambada in front of you.

45:08Yo, you funny. I'm going to say this. Wait, wait, no, no, no, no. Yo, you a funny nigga. But African, huh? What would you have said at that time? You on New York ready, yo nigga Hot 97. And they like, no, nigga, African being by the better than you, nigga. What you would have said at that time?

45:26Tony Yayo:Yo, fuck that, my nigga. You right, you right. You would have went crazy. Okay, Max B. French Montana's his man. French Montana's winning. I've been to French Montana crib in Calabasas. I said he got a championship. Max do too, too. I've been to his motherfucking condo in New York. You feel me? Max come home, just like Yayo did. He having it his motherfucking way. You right, you right. Right? And now, they talk about the tiredest rappers in New York. And they like, Big Daddy Kane in front of you, nigga. What you think he going to say? But certainly, look. I just asked you a question. What do you, he feel like the world is here.

46:11Tony Yayo:Oh, yeah, the world is mine. All right, you right. And I'm not saying Max B is not qualified to say that. Ever since she left me. Certain other niggas, they got hits. Mo' car, Mo' car, Mo' car. Max B has a mix of look. Mo' car, shit. I understand that, but all I'm saying is like, even when you look at the Jay shit, right? You notice that night, what do you peep? You peep Jay, Eminem, and who else was on that stage? Us. No, Slick Rick. Nas was up there. Oh, no, Slick Rick's a legend. That night, though. You got to bring Slick Rick out. You got to bring Slick Rick. Slick's a legend. A dude like Eminem ain't going to get on stage with certain niggas, in my mind, just my opinion.

46:53Tony Yayo:But Slick Rick is like, oh, nah, he has. Like, even Eminem will look at a Slick Rick. Like, them niggas are like in the hall. He's a legend. He's a pioneer. That's all I'm saying is Kane is in the Hall of Fame. He is. That's so right there. We can't really say nothing bad about Kane, KRS, Slick Rick. None of them. They in the hall. Thank you, Waldo. They just in the hall of fame. That's all I'm saying. You can feel like that. Chuck D, okay. What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is. Who else? He said Chuck D. What I'm saying is, right. Cool Keef. What I'm saying is, man, that shit got Kane back. I bet you one thing's for sure, two things for certain.

47:30Kane Price went up on them fucking shows. No, for sure. He did my favor. So what the fuck are we talking about? That's all that matters. If I was getting 15 now, I'm getting 30. Please bitch somebody else say something about me. Hurry the fuck up so I get to 45.

47:46Tony Yayo:And Max is feeling good. Max, he's qualified. Trust me, he got a championship ring. He had the mixtapes on a lot. But we told him you gotta stop being so sensitive. I'm just saying, certain rappers can't, you know what I'm saying, ain't qualified. No, he's a fucking legend. It's just hard to talk about niggas in the Hall of Fame. Let me ask you a question. Niggas ain't gonna talk bad about Kobe and LeBron, bro. Let me, let me. No, they do. Steph Curry. No, I know, but you can't never say that they not in the Hall of Fame. There's always people going to argue because people got a right to be fans of people, which is cool, right?

48:13And everybody got their own opinion. But I would say this, though. I would say this, though. I would just say this. At the end of the day, I need to ask all y 'all a question. This is it. And I'm going to be real. Right now, as this time stand in New York City, this is all three of y 'all, is French Montana the king of New York?

48:30Tony Yayo:He got it right now. Is he the king of New York? Is French Montana right now the king? We talking about music. Who got music? Is French Montana the king of New York? What would you say? That's kind of hard. Oh, because I was going to call a king of New York. That was a prior king of New York, but I couldn't get him on the phone. Peter Gunz. He was a king of New York at one time. Huh? The 37th. What the fuck are you talking about? See, y 'all disrespect a nigga with trophies. He got trophies. Yo, here. Shout out to Peter Gunz. No, no, no. What the fuck is that? Y 'all not disrespecting my man. Y 'all not disrespecting.

48:59He got trophies. Fuck as you mean. What the fuck is the real report? What the fuck is the real report? No, it is real. I thought he was being serious. I thought you knew you had hip hop. Rob Markman, you want to tell me that Peter and them ain't wasn't the king of New York? Rob Markman, shout out to Peter Garza. I'm calling him.

49:12Tony Yayo:I mean, the king, listen, the king of New York. The king of New York. Yo, the king of New York. That's right. Hey, listen, hey, Peter, let me ask you a question. Hey, Peter, Peter, Peter, this nigga right here, tell him what year you was the king of New York. I was the king of New York for 45 minutes in 1998. Hey, listen, hey, listen. Hey, Peter. Shout out to Peter Garza. Now, let me ask you some real shit. Right now, ain't French Montana the king of New York right now? Yeah, he got it for 45 minutes. No, he got it longer than that. He been killing for 45 minutes. Look, Wilo wasn't dispected there.

49:49Look at Wilo's face. He said 45 minutes. Listen, listen, listen. I'm still mad. Listen, listen. When I see Hov, I'm mad he ain't bring you out. You was the king of New York. I was waiting until the end of the show. I knew you was coming out. Yo, how you going to be in the stadium wearing the video? I'm a little disappointed in home. He was supposed to bring you out, wasn't he? Yeah, man, but nobody want to see that stadium shake like that. It would have been dangerous. I'm going to holler at you. That's my name. The Bronx said the Bronx for the Bill. If it wasn't for the Bronx. All right, love.

50:23I'm going to hit you. I thought he was...

50:26Tony Yayo:What y 'all thought about the whole freestyle, man? Responding to Drake and Kanye and Nicky and everybody. What's y 'all take on that whole shit? What freestyle? Which one? The freestyle. Oh yeah, Jay did. What's y 'all hold? I would like y 'all a pain on this. My joint is like, I think, I get to the point, like sometimes I think, because I would think - But hold up, you know what, before I said, because Nawalo definitely how you be on it, right? When a few weeks before that, he was just saying, this beef shit ain't good for hip hop. Jay was like, yo man, I think beef is nowadays, it ain't good.

50:58Tony Yayo:And then he come out shooting his shit, even though these motherfuckers been talking about him forever, but then he came out shooting. So I just want to know what y 'all think about the whole shit. I just think at the end of the day, no matter what Jay said, Jay is competitive. He's seeing everything. He watch out. He know everything that's going the fuck on. So I think that was his time to show like, I'm still Jay. I'm going to shoot at y 'all. I see what's going on. I ain't letting it slide. Because when you a hip-hop artist, right? Ain't nobody letting shit slide. It's this ego that you got as an artist.

51:31Like, man, them fuckers the matter with them. Like that's the mindset you got as an artist. Even y 'all have it when somebody say something even though you're old, you be like, I'm gonna let it slide. Niggas be like, fuck no, that nigga. You know, it's just in you. That's just where we come from. No matter how big you is, no matter what, the sport of hip hop never leave you. It's this competitiveness and it's that I'm gonna check these motherfuckers. Everybody got that in them. So I think that's where that came from. Got it. I ain't gonna let nobody keep slamming my name.

51:56Tony Yayo:So you know. I mean, I don't care. I feel like if I'm eating smoked duck in Morocco and these people ain't going there. If I'm the only rapper in the Swiss Alps, like I'm not thinking about these niggas. Like if I had certain niggas, he wanna keep talking about the Swiss Alps. I was just keeping it real. Listen, I'm waiting for him to say, if I'm eating Oyska, Chi Chi, if I'm eating Oyska, Jack Mack, and Rikers Island, like it don't really matter. I love when he said that shit. Life is about the moments, man. Some people don't care about that. Some people gonna protect their name and they gonna defend it and say they don't care.

52:28Tony Yayo:Listen. They don't give a fuck about all that shit. They're like, what niggas said, what about me? Nah alright Alright well I just feel like I don't be caring about Niggas sometimes Yo but back to you guys Right I know y 'all from Philly And Philly's like The home of the hustler Like and y 'all got mad Other ventures besides You know just doing a podcast And y 'all like Y 'all are like The legends of the game You know what I'm saying Definitely we gotta Take our hats off to y 'all Facts Like I know you got The boxing thing going on I want you to talk about that I know you got the book K.O. Party K.O.

52:56Party But hold up Hold up before we say anything He got a What's name John The only one The one John that he got that I'm not in, he got this exotic dancer escort business joint where it's just dudes. No, he got 15 dudes that came home from jail. And dudes be come home from jail, he be up in the jail signing dudes up. Yo, listen. Like, that's what he doing.

53:15Tony Yayo:Let's talk, cause now for real, y 'all got serious business. Y 'all in the sports world with some of the biggest names out there, you know what I'm saying? Make sure y 'all get a Wildo 267 book, Yes to You, No to Them. Wanna talk about that? Oh, that's fine. Can we get into the boxing? because I watch all y 'all fight. We got the Gilead Wilde party. We might have a male man fighting the trash man. The most entertaining shit you'll ever see on Planet of the Nerds fight. You feel me? We have a doctor fighting a home healthcare worker. Whatever we think of. We have a nurse fighting a street thug.

53:48You know what I'm saying? Because it's like think about this. The internet got it to weird though. A dude would disrespect anybody. A dude would come on your joint. Okay y 'all want to do that? Alright come on. Y 'all might as well just mix. You ain't even got to do all that. Because dudes be just under people's comments saying all the time. And so, you know, when you bring a dude, why did I knock him the fuck? And do you see it? It lead up to the back and forth on the internet. And then when it's time for the weigh-in, you see dudes disappearing.

54:14Tony Yayo:Like, what's my girl that be knocking bitches out? Meatball. Meatball. Yeah, Meatball be knocking bitches out. Meatball's a beast, motherfucker. Y 'all had some good fights in there. Yeah, because everybody, everybody, listen, you know why it be good? because everybody think they fucking tough on the internet. And you can duck smoke, you can't duck smoke there. Yeah, you in the ring. Yeah, real life niggas can't fight, they don't be tough. Like everybody duck smoke. Like he'd be like, Gil said one time, he said, cuz, is it me? He said, what the fuck happened to anybody just tough? And never was this many tough people growing up.

54:48Dudes would come on your journal on the internet and say the most dangerous, diabolical, tough killer nigga let's face it.

54:54Tony Yayo:Yo, you see a gilly face? No, we talk about it. Y 'all be saying, yo, them Philly OGs gave y 'all niggas, that's what makes y 'all niggas y 'all now. It's fucking crazy. Y 'all niggas got a lot of gems, man. You'll see a nigga now that's around my age, nigga finally come out his shell and shit. At 46 and shit. Now you on the internet talking shit. It's like, Johnny, you was a bitch for 46 years, man. Like what the fuck is you doing, man? Somebody gonna crack in your mouth. See, I'm gonna keep it, I'm just keep it all real. We gonna wrap this joint up and go to the main nine different game, of course.

55:32I'm gonna keep it all real. You know what happened, what fucked up? They took the pistol whip out the game. They took the pistol whip. They took the seeing rappers, seeing other rappers at clubs. I used to pistol whip bars.

55:51Tony Yayo:I miss those days. Before I was shooting niggas, I was pistol whipping. I missed those days. No, but think about it. CNR era, right? Niggas was hesitant because we all gotta go to the same clubs. You feel me? You couldn't even get the heads up like that. Yo, such and such a head. No, nigga. No phones, none of that. You gotta show up, nigga. You feel what I'm saying? And there's such and such guy, he already tougher than you. And then he got 11 homies with him that was dying to prove themselves. So now as soon as you walk in the drink, they like, yeah, you was talking to - I'ma just say this, man.

56:24I'ma say this. I'ma say this, yup. No, no, listen. It's a fact, though. That's how you end up the fucking show, man. That's a fact, though. No. See niggas have come out the club, oh, they is. Hey, you was talking that shit. Ba-ba-ba-ba. They chase you all out of here, kick you all in your ass. You falling off through cars and shit. Running in the traffic. Yeah. They in there dying. Bro, bro, bro. They don't do that shit no more. They took that element of the rap. They did. They used to straighten niggas up. They did. We would tell some young boys about that one time. They was like, hold up. They used to do that?

56:56I was like, don't you know how y 'all be back and forth on the internet? Like, as soon as somebody see you, this is before the pistols are on. Niggas going in your mouth, man. They going in your mouth. Balls, man. It's a hof. It's a brawl. They stop it. And I said, they don't hear it. And you used to hear about it. And you used to be like, they did what the who? Like, I ain't gonna front, man. No, no, no. You be here about rappers, you only chasing 44 blocks. I'm telling you, they chase him. 44. I'm telling you, you're here. Can a nigga run 44? Listen, you'll hear stories like, no, he came out of Def Jam on Varick.

57:25They chased him all the way up to 38th and 7th. You're like, damn. They ain't stopping. And they don't understand.

57:32Tony Yayo:But now niggas talk so tough because they know they're not going to see the person. But not just that. Even the rappers, they talk crazy because they know they're not going to see nobody. Back in the day. Like, really, man. You know what you missing? Real talk, man. This is what you missing. Back in the day. Mr. Pistol with password. No, this is what y 'all missing. Y 'all missing this part cuz back in the day y 'all don't understand none of y 'all had bodyguards so nobody could protect you it was on site. Real shit. Y 'all didn't have bodyguards bro. It was your crew and whatever other crew you talking about nigga.

57:58Real talk. Y 'all really didn't have bodyguards. Now niggas be standing behind eight niggas the size of the twin towers. Don't want nothing. That's a fact. That's a fact. Take your bitch ass home for you got these niggas on payroll getting 400 to fucking out with niggas. You got to get these niggas 22 ,000 when you get to the fucking hotel. But I'm going to say this though. I'm going to say this though. You can't even entertain this shit, young boss. Behold, behold, behold. Because you can't do nothing to nobody. You see, back in the day, we got away with whipping ass. You just heard about that shit.

58:33The labels, I'm going to keep it all the way real. The labels used to backdoor money to get them. Hey, he getting out catch him at the club. Facts. Like, whip that nigga ass. Yeah. They want to get you back in line. This is what you're missing too. Whip that nigga ass. This is the part y 'all ain't say that too. You catch this guy at the club. This is the part nobody's saying nothing about either. What? The security got a good pass these days because back in the day they would've got the business too. Like, now it's different. The security boards back in the day, dudes had homies the same. They would've been working them out.

59:05It was no stopping. Dudes wasn't stopping back in the day. I see some shit It happened at a club. No, it was security back then. They niggas ain't wanna take that bean an hour, man. No, they wasn't.

59:12Tony Yayo:It wasn't worth it. It wasn't worth it. It was so rare, it wasn't worth it. Listen. There was only a couple of niggas that you knew was like - No, back then it wasn't even a bean. That shit was$32 an hour, man. Nigga wasn't taking that shit, man. Yeah, niggas were - You had a couple of solid security niggas. Remember Wyclef nigga that played in Belly? Remember that nigga? Oh yeah, he used to be - He played in Belly in a couple of movies. That nigga was - He tried to take his shit to the next level. Yeah, he was Haitian. He was the tall nigga that played in the belly that shot. I think he was hasty.

59:39He shot. That nigga came from nothing, man. The nigga was gonna die about that money, man. Y 'all can't fuck with this nigga, man. Bro without no motherfucking shoes on. Yeah, yo hasty, man. Huh? Yeah, yo hasty, man. That's why we ready to die. He ain't a bitch. He ain't a bitch. He's the Americanized hasty. Americanized. All right, got you. Heard you. Heard you. Heard you. All right, heard you. Heard you. As soon as he ate some glazed duck off the port of Miami, he was done. It was over. It was over. He ain't give a fuck about a nigga. He's done. I don't want to be tough. So the book is out. Yeah, yes.

1:00:10Noggin balls. Noggin balls. The motherfucking Smoke Fest. Smoke Fest we know. Oh yeah, you already knew it. Cause that nigga, he had some piss. Can we get some of our stuff in our store? I'm smoking on that Gilly Galaxy right here. This is Zyrie Irving.

1:00:23Tony Yayo:Yeah, we got to get some of that in that unit dispo, man. Powered by Endor. You know why I named this string right here, Zyrie Irving? Why? Cause we're after you smoke it all.

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