In short
Loaded Lux discusses battle rap’s decline in mainstream visibility after YouTube/Caffeine shifts, rising battle fees, and how to restore hype through better content promotion and platform balance. He also breaks down his legendary battle vs Calicoe, including the “hearse/casket” showmanship and writing process, and weighs hypothetical matchups like Fabulous vs Banks and other dream rematches.
Guests
Uncle Murda (host/rapper; also known as Ledjet Lenny) and Loaded Lux (elite battle rapper; “craftsman” known for elaborate performances). No other guests are clearly interviewed in the transcript.
Key claims
- Removing battle rap from YouTube reduced “hype” and visibility, making the scene feel quieter.
- Higher purse demands and industry monetization slowed accessibility for fans.
- Battle rap needs constant teasers/accessible clips so audiences can find content without subscribing everywhere.
- The Calicoe battle’s theatrics were planned and executed with meticulous preparation.
Notable examples
- Lux vs Calicoe (Webster Hall, 2012/2014 era): hearse, pallbearers, obituaries; Lux says he wrote the obituary content word-for-word.
- Mentions: Mook vs Lux (earlier), Surf vs Lux, Joe Budden vs Hollow (crowd incident), K’Shawn vs DNA, and the idea of Drake vs Mook.
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Chapters
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0:45 to 1:17
Loaded Lux discusses the evolution and current state of battle rap.
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The State of Battle Rap
1:21 to 1:50
Loaded Lux discusses the evolution and current state of battle rap.
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The State of Battle Rap
2:20 to 3:38
Loaded Lux discusses the evolution and current state of battle rap.
“To me, there was a time where you and Luck stopped.”
Monetizing Battle Rap
3:38 to 6:56
Exploring the financial aspects and challenges of modern battle rap.
“Do you feel like you miss it on YouTube too?”
The Female Battle Scene
6:56 to 7:56
Discussion about female battle rappers and their prominence in the scene.
“I'm a fan of, what was the guys in Canada?”
Breaking Stereotypes
7:56 to 10:40
Lux shares thoughts on how battle rappers are perceived and their potential.
“it's technical work, but those that show up for their opponent, for what the situation is, yeah, man, that's who you're going to get.”
Memorable Battles
10:40 to 13:20
Reflecting on iconic battles, particularly Lux's against Calicoe.
“How you think we get the battle rap thing back popping?”
Lux's Craftsmanship
13:20 to 14:00
Lux explains his creative process and dedication to his craft.
“Rob Markman It made battle rap 100 % more entertaining.”
The Legendary Battle vs Calicoe
14:00 to 17:29
Loaded Lux discusses his memorable battle against Calicoe, his creative process, and the theatrics involved.
“You had the girls with fucking shit on their face.”
The Craft of Battle Rap
17:30 to 22:23
The conversation shifts to the complexities and skills required in battle rap compared to traditional music artistry.
“Break down every round that I sketched about.”
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The Craft of Battle Rap
22:24 to 25:39
The conversation shifts to the complexities and skills required in battle rap compared to traditional music artistry.
“And then the phone just started going crazy.”
The Craft of Battle Rap
26:00 to 26:10
The conversation shifts to the complexities and skills required in battle rap compared to traditional music artistry.
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Rap Battles and Collaborations
26:11 to 28:00
A lively discussion about potential battles in the rap industry, particularly between notable artists like Fab and Banks.
“Smack, we gonna get you up there so you can talk to this nigga, man.”
Battle Preferences: Fab vs. Banks
28:00 to 29:16
The discussion revolves around the differing styles and capabilities of Fabulous and Banks in battle rap.
“I think though in a battle, in a battle, I'm with Banks.”
Legends and Their Impact
29:16 to 31:16
The hosts delve into the influence of legendary rappers like Big Daddy Kane and Rakim.
“Fab, I feel like Fab, it's not that he can't do it, but Willie.”
Historical Figures in Harlem
31:16 to 33:16
The conversation explores Harlem's rich history and its cultural significance in the music scene.
“Remember, it was supposed to be Big Daddy Kane, 50 out on there, Rakim.”
Strivers Row and Black Aristocrats
33:16 to 35:36
The discussion highlights the historical significance of Strivers Row and the impact of prominent figures in Harlem.
“So people be like rating different things like, yo, get skills, pay the bills.”
Battle Rap Dynamics and Evolution
35:36 to 37:59
The hosts talk about the evolution of battle rap and its current state compared to earlier times.
“Black aristocrats, I don't care if you was in arts, music, if you was an educator, whoever, all of the prominent figures was a block away from each other.”
The Future of Battle Rap
37:59 to 41:44
The conversation shifts to the future of battle rap and what it needs to regain its former energy.
“Even if y 'all get promotion to put more of it and spread it everywhere.”
Potential Matchups and Speculations
41:44 to 42:00
The hosts speculate on potential matchups in battle rap, notably between Fab and Banks.
“Niggas just be like, yo, that's all niggas watch, dude.”
Discussing Potential Battle Rap Matchups
42:00 to 45:30
Explore the speculation surrounding various battle rap matchups and their implications.
“FAB and Banks will bring battle, we here.”
The Evolution of Battle Rap and Its Challenges
45:30 to 49:50
Understand the changing dynamics and challenges in battle rap culture over time.
“It was like, Joe Buttons was battling Hollow.”
The Importance of Performance in Battle Rap
49:50 to 51:10
Learn about the significance of delivering a powerful performance in battle rap.
“Because when you used to like see King of the Dot battles, and a lot of battles.”
The Importance of Performance in Battle Rap
51:46 to 53:03
Learn about the significance of delivering a powerful performance in battle rap.
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The Importance of Performance in Battle Rap
54:00 to 54:15
Learn about the significance of delivering a powerful performance in battle rap.
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Understanding Legacy and Impact in Battle Rap
54:15 to 56:00
Delve into the significance of legacy and how it influences the battle rap scene.
“So when we got to do those performances, nah, man.”
Battle Rap Dynamics
56:00 to 57:25
Learn about the intense emotional and psychological aspects of battle rap.
“I don't know how niggas could do a spit on their face.”
The Evolution of Battle Rap
57:25 to 58:55
Discover how performances and matchups have changed over the years.
“He got his man already passing his shits out.”
Shoutouts and Current Events
58:55 to 1:02:01
Hear shoutouts to artists and updates on current battle rap events.
“But like, it's certain battles that demand certain attention to where even the players, the artists, understand the magnitude of this matchup.”
The Craft of Battle Rapping
1:02:01 to 1:04:14
Explore the craftsmanship and creativity involved in battle rap.
“Oh, so no, Summer Madness, they still do Summer Madness?”
Debate: Banks vs. Fab
1:04:14 to 1:06:36
Engage in the discussion about the styles and impact of Banks and Fab.
“This is why I feel like niggas can't fuck with him.”
G-Unit's Legacy and Influence
1:06:36 to 1:10:01
Learn about G-Unit's impact on the hip-hop scene and their struggles.
“He probably got him, but he definitely don't got what Banks got.”
The Role of 'Fire' in Rap Culture
1:10:01 to 1:14:06
Explore the significance of performance and collaboration in rap, as discussed by the hosts.
“You gotta think, niggas wasn't fucking with us.”
The Controversial Pastor and Battle Rap
1:14:07 to 1:16:49
A discussion about a pastor's actions and their connection to the battle rap scene, including humorous anecdotes.
“Yo, what the fuck is wrong with this nigga?”
Creative Process Behind 'Strivers Row'
1:16:50 to 1:20:28
An in-depth look at the creative process and themes of the 'Strivers Row' project.
“I think it's all about having a cult following that.”
Creative Process Behind 'Strivers Row'
1:20:55 to 1:22:15
An in-depth look at the creative process and themes of the 'Strivers Row' project.
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Transcript
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2:23Tony Yayo:To me, there was a time where you and Luck stopped. Like, yo, you and Mook stopped. Y 'all like, man, I'm in Hollywood. 100 ,000 in battle. Oh, man, up the game. K-Shaw and Dan. Yeah, they up the game too. I heard you. I see Smack. Prices went up. Prices went up. Prices went up. Smack wasn't paying that$1 ,500 ,000. Smack said these are bugging. Then said they was going to the list. Try to flip on you, Smack. Y 'all got it out the mud together, the n**** I talk about that either. He didn't get stabbed. Shut the up, okay. Bro, bro! Bro, bro! Who do you get movies with? Out! Rebill! Yo, bro, bro.
3:01Get out my video, baby. I'm gonna get out of here. What's up? Out my list.
3:07Tony Yayo:Yo, I'm just a dog. Yeah, it's the talk of New York. It's the boy Uncle Murda, a.k.a. Ledjet Lenny, bro. And it's the real report. Make sure y 'all like, share, Subscribe, we got one of the top battle rappers in the world, man. In the world, man. Dead or alive. Make some noise for loaded Lux in the building. Yeah. Yeah, legend. Yo, Lux, man. Glad to have you in the building, man. First thing I want to ask you is, because me, Murda, and Ed, we talk about this all the time. We miss battle rap on YouTube. I know when it went to Shout to Smack. I know it went to Caffeine. Do you feel like you miss it on YouTube too?
3:51Tony Yayo:How do you feel about that? I feel like the hype is gone. It's like it got quiet. I think that's what went into it a little bit. When they removed it from YouTube, because a lot of things, you know the world today is a lot of, excuse me, subscription based and things of that nature. You know what I'm saying? So I ain't gonna hold you. Smack built up the platform enough to where, him walking into that exclusivity lane. It made sense at the time for what they was doing. So here it is, it's up in the air, right? Because on one end, you're going, damn, it's not as visible as you would like it to be for the masses, right?
4:29But then on one end, because the caffeine thing is really kind of what started it. Caffeine wanted, let's get all that content. Rob Markman You don't feel like the numbers going up
4:38Tony Yayo:because guys like you, Mook, and certain guys like it went, yo, I need 50 ,000. It came to a point where you hear guys say, I need 20 ,000 to battle, 50 ,000 to battle. Y 'all was some of them guys. Yeah, no, no. So I feel like that kind of slowed the game up from what I seen. You know what I mean? The purses? Yeah, the purses. The type of money they was asking for. It was big money. You know the kid knocked that though, because they was generating that money too. That part. Plus niggas learned the business and started realizing, oh, this is how much we making. Niggas want their money. Naturally.
5:10Tony Yayo:You know what I'm saying? But niggas can't afford the battle now.
5:18I feel like everything ain't for everybody. You gotta know who you are, what you generate into ask for them type of numbers. You know what I'm saying? You gotta make it make sense. Like this is an industry. You know what I mean? I was there at the commencement. Niggas was on the block. No, of course not. You one of the ones that can ask for a certain number, because you gonna generate - Yeah. You know, I mean, look, we put in the necessary steps to do this. like people like me, Mook, you know what I'm saying, Hollow, like some people who was just there when it went into building it up. So once it got to a space where, okay, now people coming through the doors, you know, they paying a yard to come through the door.
5:56It's different things with the streaming. It's different, like we looking at the world gravitate to what we was just doing on a regular everyday. So I watched it turn in the industry. You got the rappers highlighting in there. Yeah, you know what I mean?
6:08Tony Yayo:People showing up. Remember you had Joe Budden's batter. Rob Markman, who's a battle? He's Battle Hollow. He's Battle Hollow. That was some big battle. That was some big money. Everybody was looking like battles. Rob Markman, So we generating a lot of odds at this point. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not mad at people getting right on their business, but I feel you when you say, now here's the thing, it turns into an industry and then people are looking at all of these different streams to get the revenue. So then now it's like where that content, you was just, yo, for the world to watch. It's like once they take them certain deals and it's like, okay, that's like what's going on with The Breakfast Club and shit like that.
6:41It's like, you're not relevant.
6:44Tony Yayo:You're not here. That's crazy. No facts. I know you're not on it. People miss you on YouTube. They can see you. Shout out to The Breakfast Club Netflix. Shout out to The Breakfast Club Netflix. They want to see you on YouTube. I totally agree. That's good. Because I'm a fan of Deebo, Queen of the Ring. Yeah. I'm a fan of Smack. I'm a fan of, what was the guys in Canada? Oh, KOTD. K.O.T. I'm a fan of them. I met one of them in Canada before. So it's like every day it was like there was something new with battle rap. Somebody was battling. Either the chicks, because we have Bonnie up here. You know what I'm saying?
7:17Tony Yayo:I put the money up Shayna Ashley. You know what I mean? You want to see Bonnie and Shayna? Yeah, I would love to see that. Who you think of winning that? Just on the side note right quick. Who you think of winning that? I mean, I always say in battle rap is any given Sunday. Okay. Because everybody is formidable. You know what I mean? Like, Bonnie is crazy. Shayna is crazy. Got you. Got you. So it's who lock in. Jazz the rapper's crazy. Jazz is crazy. Fooley Bars is crazy. Like, you could pretty much bring up any name that's relevant and got some... Like, you talk about all the streets, know them in barbershops and beauty salons.
7:51If you got a name, even the dudes that don't got a name lyrically know what they doing. You know what I mean? it's technical work, but those that show up for their opponent, for what the situation is, yeah, man, that's who you're going to get.
8:07Tony Yayo:Why do you feel like they keep battle rappers in a box? Y 'all niggas got fucking balls like Drake in them niggas, but they feel like battle rap niggas can't make a record. I think that's people. I think that's the state of the world. People receive information, how they get it, and then it's the conditioning. So the mind locks on, listen, I knew Kevin Hart for comedy. I'm not going to see him in no concert like Chocolate Dropper. I'm not going to do that. He is expert in that. So I think, look, people, the conditioning, we seen you in our living rooms doing this thing for as long as we seen you doing this thing.
8:47We don't want to hear you trying to make no record. You know what I mean?
8:49Tony Yayo:Don't fuck up my entertainment. We need to know who you battling next, nigga. You don't think battle rappers hang with, because not too many battle rappers hang with regular rappers. Like, you consider us regular rappers. Yeah, yeah. Now you my friend. I don't like that term. Not regular rappers. I mean, we big rappers, but - It's crazy, you know what I'm saying? I knew what he meant. You know what I'm saying? I know what you meant. Battle rappers stay in they box. For instance, one of my favorite records, Murder Put Me On, was Leaf Ward, Supe Surf, and my man Mills. Risk Takers. And then I kinda - That was Leaf War, Al Biel, and Mills.
9:26Tony Yayo:Yeah, I was on. But what? But Sue Surf, Al Biel? He got a record with Sue Surf, too. That's hard too. Facts, yeah. Facts, yeah. Facts, yeah. Facts, yeah. Facts, yeah. Facts, yeah. Facts, yeah. Facts, yeah. Facts, yeah.
9:41Tony Yayo:Facts, yeah. Free Leaf War, man. Free Leaf War. He and Miami pumping that nigga shit. It just feel like - Dope, dope, dope. You know we want the bars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Surf made that transition a little bit, because niggas on the streets be fucking with surf music on some like, he made the transition. Yeah, niggas fuck with surf. No, that's what I'm saying. He made the transition. When I, but when I heard him on a record with Leaf Ward, I was like, oh shit. Like, I ain't hear nothing from him in a while, but now I'm checking for his shit. That's good. See, you had to hear it. You know what I mean?
10:10Like you used to seeing surf, getting busy on that stage, doing what he doing. But then, look, Leaf, you didn't know them, but that connection to you loving that music and you just happen to hear surfing go, oh shit, it sound good. I know what he doing. And that's all. People just got to be a little bit more receptive to what's going on in the world. And that's all of us. Me included. We're conditioned. Creatures of habit. We go about the day, what we used to, until a few things, something happens, and then you may alter, you know? But that's just living. How you think we get the battle rap thing back popping?
10:47Being that it's so many different channels. Rob Markman - Back on YouTube. Rob Markman - That's it. And great performances. Rob Markman - And Deebo, bring back Queen of the Ring, man. Playing around. Rob Markman - That's why, listen, that's why me and Mook was going crazy with the Rob Markman - It's easy to say that though, bring it back on YouTube, but we talking about all this money that niggas is getting with these other companies and stuff like that. So how are you just going to go back to YouTube like that? Rob Markman - I don't know. Rob Markman - Yeah, but see, here's the thing. I feel like there's a healthy balance.
11:13I was telling them, and B's and them, I see it now more and more, more so. But even though they doing it, probably like you see it in little ads on the gram and different things. But I was like, we got a release. You got it. Even if you don't drop the whole thing, you got to put content out there. Rob Markman - Got you. But I feel like if people can't see - Tease some of the people with the battles, at least put some of the battles on the gram, let people know it's out there. Rob Markman - And let them know where they can locate it. Rob Markman - Copy. Got you. Rob Markman - You don't just make the move like that.
11:43You know what I'm saying?
11:44Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - But my whole thing is, if you can't see the content, how is it going to be relevant. You gotta be able to see the content. Rob Markman - Because now you gotta go sign up to all these other platforms that they got now, right? Rob Markman - Listen, let me give you the perfect example. Mr. Beast is one of the biggest people on, you would say on YouTube, right? He does 127 million views on YouTube, but he's on Amazon Prime. So if I ever was to do a deal like that or any deal, I would want to have an episode of The Real Report on Netflix and an episode of The Real Report on YouTube. That's just me being truthful.
12:18Just like Drewski. Rob Markman - Speaking into existence. Yeah. Rob Markman - I like how you just pitched that out there. Keep talking though there. Rob Markman - Just like Drewski. Drewski, my brother, keep talking.
12:26Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - When Drewski do, could have been records, and he do For the Love of Drewski, he'll have some of it on YouTube, and some of it on VH1 or wherever it's at. That's all I'm saying. So, when I used to wake up, because there was a time where everybody just went to YouTube just for battle rap, bro. That's a fact. I'm just keeping 100. I knew every battle, whatever battle was next, I knew, now where I'm gonna find it. You know I gotta ask Lux, one of the most, I would say, it's in the top five of battles of all time. Which one you talking about? It's him with Calico. You know, pulled out the, you had the hearse.
13:10Tony Yayo:You had the pallbearers. Yeah, yeah. You had the suit on. Rob Markman I need y 'all to bring all that footage up to what you're talking about. Rob Markman Yeah, we need all that footage. Rob Markman Shout to Calico. Rob Markman But I feel like that battle right there changed the fucking game. Rob Markman Indeed. Rob Markman It made battle rap 100 % more entertaining. Rob Markman Yeah, nah. Rob Markman That battle rap, how many years ago was that? Rob Markman Was it 2012? Rob Markman Yeah. Rob Markman It was 2012? Rob Markman 14, 15 years ago. Rob Markman And that's one battle. Rob Markman 14 years ago.
13:40Tony Yayo:Rob Markman No fighting, no, cause you know fighting, you always remember battle. You know, when I pop up one of these niggas, punch a nigga in the head. And Calico was crushing shit at that time too. Yeah, Calico. He was crushing it. That's actually how the battle happened. Exactly, because he was crushing shit. That's back when I was kind of really into it. He was crushing shit at that time. But this is what I want to know because to me, that was like one of the most entertaining battles, top five battles of all time. You brought a fucking hearse out. It was a movie. You had the girls with fucking shit on their face.
14:09Tony Yayo:Yeah, the widowers. You had the fucking obituaries. Yeah. What the fuck was the thought process in that matter, dude?
14:18Just showmanship. Like, we was at Webster Hall that year, so that was a movie in itself. Like, I'm very, like, 200 feet in front of me in terms of, like, when we get those pivotal steps, excuse me, those pivotal moves where we, like, you know, get to, you know, have a stage or an audience for real, for real, when it's grand like that, I don't know. I just, I'm serious about the craft. Like I'm a real craftsman when it comes to this shit. I'm a Virgo, man, so I get extra, extra like, and I ain't knew about this shit, so. Paul's. Yeah, he the Paul's, he's got the Paul's everything. But. Gotta hold you down, you know what I mean?
14:57But when it was going on, when all that was taking place, I'm mindful that, yo, I still, when that was happening, I ain't been on the set for like four joints, four or five years, you know what I'm saying? Because I started the Lions then, and I started getting into that space. You know what I mean? So once I was doing the Lions then, I wasn't active. I'm not gonna lie, I thought Calico was gonna get you. Because you wasn't active. Like you said, no, you admit that. He wasn't active, no real talk. He wasn't on the scene for a minute. It was like people was calling you to come back for a minute.
15:25So I'm like, oh man, he gonna have a hard time for that.
15:28Tony Yayo:Lux is New York, Lux. Of course, that's how it happened. But he understand, he ain't been around for a while. He wasn't into it for a while. It don't matter. Niggas like him and Mook, you never sleep on. DNA, you know people, Sue Surf, the gun titles niggas, them niggas are gonna perform. Rob Markman - You said the gun title niggas. Rob Markman - That's my thing. Rob Markman - So you gotta think about it. The thing about Lux is, Lux don't just perform for the crowd. He put on a show. He come, nigga, like he's gonna have that beloved, beloved, Jay-Z talked about that. Rob Markman - Indeed. Rob Markman - You know that was the most classic battle, like, what was that, 20, 18, 15 years ago?
16:05Rob Markman - 14 years ago. 14 years ago? 14 years ago.
16:08Tony Yayo:14 years ago, and that's what I'm like, yo, that's the number one question I wanted to ask him, what was the thought process? Rob Markman - To make you come with the casket and everything. Yeah. What the fuck made you think? Get back to that. What made you think of that? Nah, I ain't gonna hold y 'all. I gotta give all the glory to up top when I say that. I know how I put myself in a space, and then whatever happens from there, creatively, I'm gonna go with. And I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna do it. So, yeah, I caught the idea, shit, sister, I caught that idea like two weeks before the joint. Two weeks.
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16:43I'm like, because I'm already drilling. I had, at first when Smack asked me to do the battle, I'm like, he asked me, I said, cool. Then I, it was just some back and forth real quick. Rob Markman - As far as the money? Yeah, and then, you know, something back and forth real quick. But - It's all good, gotta get the business right. It's all good. It's all good. But once the business got right - We got to it. So I ain't have too much time, but I had some time. And yeah, Calico was, cause that year, he battled math. And then on this day, he called me out. That battled - Okay, okay. So it's really like, I got that, I'm like, oh, shorty think it's like - You can't do your Harlem shit.
17:24Yeah.
17:24Tony Yayo:You said more beds than where hospital? Harlem hospital giving beds out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Break down every round that I sketched about. I'm telling you I know this battle round shit, man. I was saying some shit. Nothing tougher than the rules. The rusty tools in the shed house. He ain't got math that year. He ain't got math that year. Calico was on the run. He was. But what I'm saying is, it wasn't like he came - The casket was ill. They come out with the casket like - Everything was crazy. Yo, listen. If somebody out there and they gonna tune into this, hit me. Because you know we put out obituaries.
17:58Yeah, we did the whole thing. Wasn't no AI or none of that. All of that, everything you see in that obituary. If you got an obituary from that battle, word for word, I wrote all of that. Yeah. Pull that up. We could find somebody to pull that up the obituary from that battle. That's what I'm saying, man.
18:15Tony Yayo:So when you really, really, really think about it, that kind of really propelled theatrics. Yeah, yeah. to me, cause later on down the line, now, the ill shit is when niggas have the paperwork party. Yo, hold on. Niggas have pitchy or baby moms now. Niggas, that's what made battle, to me, battle rap, to me it's harder than being an artist cause the artists know they song. We get up there with 50 and Murda, Murda, he might not know the rap up, it's like 10 minutes. But 50, you know our song, right? He might forget that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Look, he ain't remembering that. Yo, yo. That's a nigga's crazy.
18:58Tony Yayo:But for battle rap, you got to have all the bars in your head. Yeah, indeed. The timing, the crowd, how to play the crowd, nigga screaming in your face without fighting, nigga spitting, spitting. Then you got his boys in the back behind you, nigga's amping, ice grilling, you and a million goombas. Yeah. You can't choke, you know, once you choke, they talk about that shit for like 20 years down the line. Shout out to everybody that choke. Mok used to have that tall nigga with him, remember the tall, black nigga tall? Everybody had a count. Everybody, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was always, you never know what's gonna happen at a battle rap.
19:35Yeah, nah, it's a movie. Like, the thing about it is, that's what makes a battle a battle, right? It's the execution under that degree of just traffic.
19:47Tony Yayo:So what was your day like? You was like, yo, I'm gonna spend this on the hearse, I got the girls. What was your day like that morning? How much you paid for that hearse? What was the morning? Nah, I had a family member did that for me. Oh, for real? Oh shit. Then, look, everybody used to talk about the hearse, but we bought out the Pond Box, though. Remember we - No, I remember the Pond Box, you had the everything. You had the girls with the shit. Yeah, you had the Pond Box for them. Yeah, yeah. Um, I bought out the Pond Box. I had, that day was crazy. My whole hood was just outside. We was bringing the Pond Box out, the whole hood outside.
20:21We got the hearse outside. That was crazy, man. Those were the girl days of battle rap, man.
20:27Tony Yayo:Yo, listen, we parked the hearse right there. Yeah, they had the cameras, you had the cameras, and all that shit. Movie. I never forgot that battle, man. 14 years later, nigga, I had to ask you that fucking question. Nah, but so, and then look, to bring it full circle, This is why I feel when we go, damn, where that, or where is it at at, or where? I believe in when you bring truth to the table, when you bring all of what you, because everything, the most I could say to people that went into that, that really made it what it was, was just me sticking to the script. You know what I'm saying? It was like, I just really wanted, I knew the people was coming.
21:08We ain't never had a venue like Webster Hall. battle rap is like being showcased we got the lights we got a stage I mean you know Puff was in the we got Busta we got Q-Tip was up like the world is watching what you gonna do the world was watching so battle rap ain't never had no look like that until that and shout out to everything everybody on that call did they numbers move that's when Rex got the 10 when Puff threw out the 10. You're like, what? You gonna put the 10 on this round? And Rex went crazy. All of that happened in the building that day. That was crazy, yeah.
21:48Tony Yayo:When you bong that, the main thing you remember is that hearse and that. That's a fact. I felt like the battle was over once the hearse came and all it was. But look though, nah, because we could have did all that. You still have boss. No, but you still have boss. Don't get me wrong. You had quotes on there at Harlem Hospital shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beloved, Jay-Z. How'd you feel when Jay-Z was fucking shit? Bro, it wasn't even like, Like real, like that was so surreal. I'm on the phone with my man, Uncasa. We and Uncasa talking, that's crazy. Cause we was talking, boom boom boom, we just hung up.
22:19He called me back, I'm on the phone with my pops now. Boom boom boom, talking to my pops. He keep calling. Like what happened? Nigga, did you see the tweet? Did you? And then the phone just started going crazy. From there the phone was just, it was just surreal. Thanks.
22:36Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Nah, that's why we got to transition to the music. Some surf doing it. I know a lot of artists doing it. Talk about you transitioning to the music, back to the music. The bars. We want to hear that. Cause I know you can make the records. Rob Markman, Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no doubt. Yo, and that's the thing. I actually started making music at the same time we was battling. Like, battling was just fun in my neighborhood. That's some shit we did after the parties and all of that. Know what I'm saying? But shout out to Head Ice, you know what I mean? The big bro used to like - Head Ice, Ice.
23:09You know what I mean? The Wolf used to take a nigga to the studio, like faithfully. You know what I'm saying? He used to have me in them sessions, you know what I mean? And so I got a real keen sense of what it took to, oh shit, count your balls like this, all of that I got from day one. So at the same time I was making music, I probably was making music before I was really battling. but you know rapping like just on a block like that's like shout out to the wolf shout out to head ice shout out to gorgeous gangster gg you already know um said said no to they i used to have powwows with the elders with the with the with the ogs and they said you know huddle up let me hear something like that was nigga that was duty like they had on like no i heard that last week let me hear something and so you had to have your shit ready gotta stay sharp gotta stay
24:02Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, I mean, the battle rap niggas, like you said, a nigga that don't got a name is still sharp with his shit. That's the thing that you see. Most of your battles, the whole shit is like, damn, how the fuck? Or a lot of battle raps, you're like, how the fuck he came up with that? See, a nigga rapping, not battle rapping, he got bars, but he could make it into a hit. Because it's like when you listen to a Drake, Drake got bars, but he could still turn the Rob Markman, put the record into a hit because he can do different things, melodies, shit like that. Rob Markman, Yeah, you got the cadence, you got the music to work with, you know what I'm saying?
24:38So it's different vibes. And that's why, listen, every science, every branch on a tree got a rhythm, you know what I'm saying? So if it's making music, you got to learn the formats and wish yo, you know what I mean? Don't color out of the lines. Like, you know what I mean? Stay in this pocket, you know, we on topic with this record, you know what I mean? And it's the same, so when you get to battling, that's a rhythm within itself. I know how I think first round, how I should be, depending on who you are. And yo, it is, man.
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26:29Tony Yayo:I'm really sitting here thinking of that. There was a point where Drake wanted to battle Mook. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck? I'm just like, hold on. That shit was like changing the game. You had Joe Buttons battling the hollow. Know what I'm saying? Niggas was throwing big offers out of the - Cassidy, Cassidy, Cassidy. To Banks. Niggas wanted to see Banks battle. Cassidy had to battle. I know we wanted to see Fab and Banks, man. Oh, of course. I know what Banks would do to Fab. Fab is nice, though. I know everybody's on the family. Look, look, look, look, look. He from Brooklyn. He from Brooklyn.
27:01Tony Yayo:Brooklyn niggas always stick together. They kill each other on their off hours.
27:10Tony Yayo:You know how that shit go. Yo, look, who you think? Who you think out of family? I ain't gonna hold you. I'm gonna say this right now. Straight up no chaser. Now - Cause you, you knew you. You from Harlem. Let's hear this. But no, I ain't really newt you because - We got the newt you Harlem guy right here. Me and Mook been having conversations about this though. Okay. So, Mook is one-sided though. He be on some - No, we can't. No, don't start. No, oh my God. Look, Mook is from Harlem. Mook is from Harlem. Yo. Let's go. I want to hear these conversations. You got Mook and Lux. You got to keep the G-U in the hate.
27:40Tony Yayo:Oh my God. You got to keep the 50 cent hate. This guy - Oh my God. Yo, listen, listen. A lot of y 'all niggas are friends with these guys. You know what I mean? Listen, can my man talk for me man? Let's go. Nah, listen, this is how I feel. Honestly, like, MOOC Pro, we've had these conferences so many times. I think though in a battle, in a battle, I'm with Banks. I'm with P.O.K. What kind of battle you talking about though? A battle. You just said Banks. I mean, what you talking about? So look, I'm saying Fab here, Banks here, and yeah, we in the same room and it's going up. You talking about doing your type of battle?
28:25All right, okay. Now - Oh, you want to go record battle? No, I didn't know what he was talking about is what I'm asking him. I didn't know - Oh yeah, no. Because it's different when you - Oh no, that's what you want to ask him. When you ask somebody like Lux and Mo - That's what she want to ask him. It's different. That's what I'm asking him. So now you're saying record battle. I wanted to know what kind of battle he was talking about. He said in the room, ball for ball. Ball for ball, you think like, banks will get bad. Yeah, because here's the thing. They both, both of their penmanship is there.
28:58But see, when you, you got to perform in them rooms, man. And you know, only thing, that's what I can say. I feel it wouldn't be such a transition for Banks to get in that space to where it's just, yeah, we here now. It's raw. This is what it is. Fab, I feel like Fab, it's not that he can't do it, but Willie. That's my thing. because here's the thing in contention I just I'm not too like I feel like Fab be cool I don't know I can't picture Fab in that space to where nah the gloves is off nigga like I'm it's that now so I've never me when I go into them spaces I don't see it Banks I've kind of seen Banks cut up to where he'll give you that grit he'll get out of
29:57Tony Yayo:you know what I mean it ain't But for me, this is what I say. Skills pay the bills, right? That's why you're one of the best at what you do. You know what I mean? Skills pay the bills. Like Floyd Mayweather and fucking Javante. Skills pay the bills. Yeah, yeah, sure. Banks is in Germany now. Last time we talked about this, I think he was in France or something. When we talked about it on Breakfast Club, we was like, yo, what's Fab doing? What's Banks doing? Banks is in Germany now. He's on another tour. So him, the G-Unit brand is so much bigger than a brand. I was just, I want to Let's think of who y 'all got, y 'all got Big L What, Harlem?
30:34Tony Yayo:Y 'all got a lot of heavy hitters Big L, Mace How'd you feel about Max B saying he better than Mace? He said he better than Big Daddy Kane He said he better than Kane Kane shot some balls Kane, yo Kane is Kane ain't feeling that man Shout out to Big Daddy Kane We met Kane and niggas was paying homage Me and Murda and Cool G rap. We was trying to figure out why Rakim didn't make it. Rakim was like, yo, I ain't make it. I know there's some kind of beef there. I definitely want to find Rakim and Kane. And Kane is official, man. I told you. They never did a show together. Big Daddy Kane is official, man.
31:13Tony Yayo:But look, we had - They never did a show together, brother, and never did a song together. Who dat? Never did a show? They never did a show. Remember, it was supposed to be Big Daddy Kane, 50 out on there, Rakim. And Rakim was like, yo, I got COVID or something. I don't know. I don't think he would lie, but it was just like, damn, they niggas never did. We never seen them in a room together. That's crazy. What? It's like Jay and Nas when I look at Kane and Rakim. Nah. You don't look like that? Then we had them, nah. Yo, can you, I see y 'all pulling up stuff on YouTube. They never did a song together, bro.
31:48Who we had in the, I mean, we had them in the room together.
31:51Tony Yayo:I've been around all the greats, man. They never been in a room. Then we had Big Daddy Kane, Karas, running Rakim. and the Lions then. They never performed together. Nah, they didn't perform. Do they have a song together? But they was in the room together, man.
32:11Tony Yayo:What live show have they done together? Shout out to Kid Capri. Oh yeah, we had Kid Capri on the show. I got a chance to meet all the greats. Kane, Hooji Rap, Biz Markie was one of my favorites to me. he commercialized rap. Rob Markman, Oh baby. Rob Markman, Oh baby. Because we, I think we came out, was it - Rob Markman, That's the performing together right there? Rob Markman, They on the stage together? Rob Markman, Yo, after a while you can't, like, shit be about the culture. Rob Markman, I believe they did something before. Rob Markman, Who you think is your top five, like, of that time? Because I always loved the 80s rap.
32:48Tony Yayo:I say, I'm not going to have no order, but I always say Kane, Rakim on there. I would put Slick Rick on there. See, it's hard. You know why it's hard for me to - Oh, you got to put LL on there. See, I wasn't in the streets though. See, y 'all, y 'all, y 'all, you outside experiencing it. I'm a baby. So when you outside experiencing, not only is you hearing the music, nigga, you watching the vibe. You see the scene. So people be like rating different things like, yo, get skills, pay the bills. but it's everything that comes with an impact. Rob Markman - Now, Harlem, y 'all got legends, but let's think about the legends.
33:27Tony Yayo:Y 'all got Big L from back in the days. Let me think. Dougie Fresh was that nigga though. Dougie Fresh. Come on. Come on, man. Rob Markman - Dougie Fresh, y 'all. That's one of y 'all top rappers. Hell yeah. Rob Markman - I'm fucking with Fergie baby right now. Who? The Fergie baby? Oh yeah, Fergie baby. I like Fergie baby. Good day to be a Harlem nigga. Rob Markman - I like Chuck Cash. What you know about Chuck, man? Rob Markman - I fuck with Chuck Cash. What? I think his time is coming. Oh shit, yeah. I fuck with Neath Bucks. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, you talking about - But I'm liking Fergie baby now.
33:57Tony Yayo:Yeah. That Harlem East River Drive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ferg. Fuck with - Yeah, rest - I didn't even know Rob Bass is from Harlem. Definitely. What? Well, he's one of them too, because he commercialized. You watch Radio Music Box? You had to know that. Yo, that's crazy, because you know what I want to do, for the project, I'm going to do something with Ralph. Oh, that'd be dope. That's cool. Yeah, cause I gotta, look, no, shameless plug, right? But this Stryvers Road shit, right? In Harlem, this was one of them blocks, this was one of the areas. Stryvers Road? Yeah. Okay, let's talk about that.
34:35When they first started putting, blacks get that real estate and come in and purchase some of the space that was there, cause you know, it was, you know, what it was then. But like around 1919, like when all of them started coming in that space, in that area, I ain't gonna say like it made the property value what it was, but for black America, it definitely did. Know what I mean? You got the who's who's being in those spaces and coming through there. So what it did was it allowed for a lot of minds, a lot of vibes to come through. And when they shed light on, you think, what we just talking about, you was telling me, Conway talking about the power to pull up.
35:23The power to pull up.
35:24Tony Yayo:Yeah. You got everybody who's somebody in that time though. Right. Two, three blocks away from each other. Right. So they commuting the best of the best. Black aristocrats, I don't care if you was in arts, music, if you was an educator, whoever, all of the prominent figures was a block away from each other. And it wasn't no social media, they all knew, was aware of each other and would go to your door. Rob Markman Yeah, there's a lot of crazy history in Harlem that a lot of important people, even back in the days, black people in Harlem was successful. It's been a flashy place for a long time.
36:03Tony Yayo:Everybody know you get a new car or something, you go to Harlem, niggas is outside, it's always a movie. What was it like? You think that being in Harlem helped you be a battle rapper? Because the pressure's on. You know, you got a crowd of niggas. You and Mook battling in Harlem and different places. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I feel like - Who won the you and Mook battle, man? I think Mook, well, the first one, the first one they was giving to me, because then it was like, we rapped for like, on camera it might have been maybe five, six rounds on camera, but then he was outside too rapping. See, the only thing y 'all see now was three rounds a piece.
36:45You know what I'm saying? When we was gone, we was still straight off the block with it. You rapping too, you ran out of rhymes. The essence. That's when Smack was pulling up. He was catching that. That was the shelter Smack. That was the essence Smack. Yeah. That's when the Harlem, I always say it was the Mecca. Brooklyn and Medina. Nigga, how young was your first? Because I never know how you get, like how they be determining who wins them. So you said like you just said, you said the first one they gave to you. Yeah. What you mean when you say that? Y 'all battled more than once? Yeah. You seen the second one was showcased.
37:15Three rounds. Yeah, the second one we did at Total Slaughter. So all right, you said the first, so the first one you said was you, then you feel like he got the second one? For sure. Okay, copy. For sure. Okay. This was me and my theme on Rich Porter shit.
37:30Tony Yayo:Yo, this is why I say Smack Fucked Up, cause even it was - Damn! Why you keep saying Smack Fucked Up? Cause you gotta think about it. No, because it's like, yo, I wanna watch battle rap, but it's like, where the fuck I'm fondin' in that? Caffeine. Nah, you gotta go to, well look, I feel you. Come on, man, where the fuck I'm fondin' that? What I'm sayin' is - Hey, OBS, look, URLTV.tv, that's where you gotta go. All right, I guess I gotta go to that. URL now, right? Yeah, man. URL. I didn't know that. They ain't got an app, man. Well, niggas gotta promote this shit and put it out there. Yeah, that's what I'm tellin'.
38:00Tony Yayo:It's just, you wanna see more of it. Even if y 'all get promotion to put more of it and spread it everywhere. Rob Markman - But they dropping clips and feeds and different things and letting people know where they can get that. Rob Markman - But it don't feel the same like before, you know what I'm saying? It was like more to the league. Like I said, Queen of the Ring, that was one of my shits. So if y 'all niggas wasn't battling, I go to Queen of the Ring. So I started liking all the female battle rappers. Rob Markman - I get what you said. I don't even know what's happening right now. So who popping right now?
38:28Who tearing shit up right now? Rob Markman - There's so many. Yeah. Like right now? It's everything. Because like you said, I don't get to see, I'm not in truth right now. This is what I'm saying here. I just watched it.
38:38Tony Yayo:But there was a point when we'd go to YouTube and you automatically - And that shit would just pop up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a fact. It would just pop up. It was a time where I'm watching - And then you just find yourself watching so many other ones. ... four or five battles a day to look for it. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Niggas started battling in London, nigga. Yeah. It was worldwide. Canada. Disaster all them niggas. Yeah. Niggas fighting all kind of shit was going on. Yeah. What's my man that got killed too? He was nice too, that got stabbed. Yeah, rest in peace to Past A. He was one of them too.
39:05Tony Yayo:Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, it was going worldwide. Who fucked it up? What, the? The money. The money. I just knew he was going to say that. Smack and Beasley. Shout out to my niggas Smack and Beasley. We don't get the niggas up here. Nah, but look, that speaks to impact though. And Deebo fucked up, because I heard Deebo sign to Smack, right? He fucked with Smack at a point? Or no? I don't think they're cool. Queen of the ring was supposed to go there or something? I don't know. I don't know the politics. I don't know. Queen of the ring disappeared too. But you can't say it's smack fucked it up because everybody started going to get their bag.
39:38Yeah. It's a collective. Everybody started going to get their own bag.
39:44Tony Yayo:Nah, but when he did the caffeine deal, it just felt like it was cut short off of YouTube a little bit. That's all I'm saying. Like I went from, like I said, murder. It's tough. I went from three to four battles a day. DJ, DNA, this nigga, Hollow, this nigga, Ms. Hustle, Shayna, this. I'm watching everything. Even when Bonnie battle Unpeaches now, right? Rob Markman Yeah. DJ Premier League I caught it because it was like on the gram, but it's like the marketing is less right now. That's all I'm saying. You do a project, you doing a Stryvers project, Rain, that's going to be big, but niggas want to...
40:17Tony Yayo:Y 'all going to have to... We want to see you on Flex. We want to see you on the radar. We want to see you on Sway just for the marketing of it. That's what I think battle rappers gotta do Go to Sirius Radio Go to Flex So we know whatever's coming Or whatever battle's coming Because it's less traffic on YouTube With battle rap Yeah I feel you I feel you in that regard You know what I'm saying? It did Look for somebody And I'm glad you making mention of this too Because there's a lot of avid watchers That feel like you You know what I mean? With that vibe And it's good because The different people that Council leagues And different things Could see that and I always made it the weirdest smack.
40:56I'm like, whoa, that's why you see all my battles is on you too.
40:59Tony Yayo:Niggas, you know how many face-offs was crazy? Suck my dick. Or SMD. Yo, I slapped your mom. Yeah, face-off, of course. But face-off is, you know, even the dudes that was doing the face-off with the bow ties and the glasses, breaking the fights up, dudes in each other, dude swing. Yo, that was content, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that content is gone. Like, you can't, you really don't see it like that. I mean, they still put faceoffs up, you know what I mean, different things like that. But they gotta promote it more, man. You want that energy. Yeah, you missed the energy. I want that battle rap energy back.
41:32There was a time where y 'all,
41:34Tony Yayo:like niggas wasn't even paying attention to music. It was like, yo, I'm gonna go catch this battle, dog. You gotta make it back. I'm telling you, the people feel like that. Now I know niggas just be in the - Know what I'm saying? Just be in the trap. Niggas just be like, yo, that's all niggas watch, dude. But look. would it be some good bad news right now man? Would it be some good bad news right now? I think that also - FAB and Banks? I think - I mean, I think it would get bad. FAB and Banks will bring battle, we here. And I, like, listen, I wasn't, cause I be seeing FAB. See I don't think they gonna do that, go ball for balls, no dissing each other type shit.
42:15I think when people talk about FAB and Banks, they just talk about putting their music up. I don't see them going like, y 'all, like you. I don't see them doing that. You know, my thing was because they had the aptitude to do it, it would really be a spectacle. You know, if we just talking about dudes getting to their bag, what? A Fab and Banks battle? Like we do it? You know how much? You could just... No, that would definitely... I think that would definitely bring a bag.
42:44Tony Yayo:I think we getting off the subject here. I would love to see... Let me go to my battle list. I would like to see Sue Surf versus Lux. That happened. I want to see it again, though. Sue Surf versus Lux. Who won that one when that happened? You won that one? Of course. But why we want to see it again? I just want to see it again just to bring the game back. Okay. I want to see Murder, Mook versus... Now, Mook and Surf... I want to see... Is that they battled before? No. I want to see Mook versus like a DNA or somebody. I want to see him against DNA. Because I felt like when y 'all stop, what's my man that was always with DNA and bugging him for years damn high?
43:25Tony Yayo:His bad, his - Rob Markman - Clips? Charlie Clips? Rob Markman - Nah, not Charlie Clips. DNA man now, he always battle with - Rob Markman - Oh, Kayshawn. Rob Markman - Kayshawn. My bad Kayshawn. I know who you are. I'm a fan. You know what I'm saying? But I felt like when you, like to me there was a time where you and Luck stop, like yo, you and Mook stop, y 'all niggas was like, man, them niggas Hollywood, 100 ,000 in battle, shit. Aw man, fucking up the game. K'Shawn and DNA. Yo, they fucked up the game too yet? Yeah, they fucked up the game too. I heard, I see Smack. Prices went up. Prices went up.
43:54Tony Yayo:He said them niggas fucked it up too, Smack. Prices went up. Smack wasn't paying that$1 ,500 ,000. Smack said these niggas is fucking, nigga. The niggas said they was going to the niggas that's going to pay. Niggas tried to flip on you, Smack. Y 'all got it out the mud together. The niggas start talking about they need a hundred K. Now, think about it. K'Shawn and DNA kind of like, That's when a lot of new niggas was like taking up the slack. Because y 'all niggas was getting too pricey. Like y 'all was just to a point where it was just like, damn. I just heard him, big numbers and sign a contract and what I make.
44:25Tony Yayo:Nigga, I'll make this. Nigga, what you make? It was a lot of money talk on that shit at that point. Just think about it. Drake wanted to battle Mook. Yeah. Did he really want to battle Mook? Yes! He was going to do it. That was the pinnacle. Yo, no, hold on. Let's wait. Because when me and Mook come back, like tell that story. Like the way Mook gonna tell you that story, he gonna give you the play by play. Nigga, it was right about to happen. Somebody fucked up the play. Yo, I'ma let Mook tell a story. We gonna have Mook on the show, but it was about to happen. It was talks of that shit. And this is what I'm saying, that would have led to Lux versus Jada, Banks versus Goods, or Hitman Holla or somebody.
45:05It would have led to that. Or it would open up the floodgates. But yeah. How that fucked up? Damn. He gonna let Mook tell a story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gotta let Mook tell a story. Trying to G you.
45:16Tony Yayo:He from Harlem. I can't G a Harlem nigga, nigga. I can't fuck with this nigga. Harlem nigga sell shit on the stick, man. Those niggas ain't. Hey, man. Listen, little boy. That's crazy. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. That was the pinnacle at that time. It was like, Joe Buttons was battling Hollow. And then Mook, they talking about Mook and Dre. Who won the Joe Buttons battle? Nah, you remember Joe? That was like on TV. I told him to rock. Yeah, that was total sport, but Joe got out of there. He stopped, I don't know if the second or the third round, but the crowd wouldn't, I guess he wanted it to be completely silent.
45:50He put the mic down. So they never really finished that battle. Oh yeah, it was something that happened. With women in Hollow. Yeah, Joe put that. So Joe Biden's lost that one? It was crazy. Hollow said one of the dopest lines. Hollow, nice. He said, I got 112, I want Joe to see. I forgot, bro, my fault. I forgot I'm messing your setup. I know, I know. My bad. But the way he put that line together, oh man, I got 112. It was something he said before that brought it all the way together. I want Joe to see. Because he did another R &B reference before he went to it.
46:21Tony Yayo:What do you think is the Thor process when you write your shit? Like before you get to battle, how do you, because you know, it's hard to remember all that shit. Like I said, Murder with the Wrap up 10 minutes. Y 'all niggas is remembering that shit though. They going, they remembering 10, 20 minutes above. Sometimes he can't even remember with 16 bars. Word. You know what I'm saying? Play the track under that shit. I don't care. And that is real though, because y 'all do be remembering some like - How the fuck you - It be like three, four, five minute verses, and there's like three different ones on top of it.
46:53Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:55Tony Yayo:And room to improv. And yeah. Yeah, the improv, stop the crowd, the comeback at that point. No, that is a lot. That's a lot. This is the shit that'll fuck me up, because a nigga be like, bring it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The nigga be like, you gotta bring eight balls. The niggas wanna stand with you. I'm very real you give me the bring it back. To me, shout to all the battle fan rap. To me, the good old days was the crowd. To see the crowd, them rowdy crowds, niggas don't care. You fuck up, they on you, bro. Yeah, yeah. Cause now you seeing I'm a big battle rap fan. Banks too. Yeah. This is what I'm saying.
47:37Tony Yayo:I just want to see more of it. Maybe somebody step up. Maybe an Eminem or somebody will step up and really put that shit out there. Smack is doing his thing cool, but you gotta put that shit out there, Smack. I'm gonna say this. Look, and then look. Smack gonna come up here and let y 'all know exactly what's going on. Because like I said, from having Drake, if Drake would have battled Mook, imagine how that would have been. You would have had a this guy against Jadakiss or somebody. You know what I mean? You would have had any bigger bag. What happened with the Drake and Mook shit? I got a book.
48:09Um, nigga. I got a book. Look, look, look. He gonna try until he die. I tell you, I love it. Brooklyn, nigga. Mook call up, nigga. I got a book coming out too before the years out as well too. Oh wow. It's fire dope, man. I got a transcriber. Shout out to Dr. Emden, Dr. Chris Emden. What's the name of the book, man? You gonna get this work. Okay, you gonna get this work. I like that. Perfect name. Perfect name. Come on, you know that ain't going nowhere.
48:36Tony Yayo:You gon' get this work. Perfect name. And I give people mindsets in every battle I was in. Yeah, cause you say some crazy shit in your shit, bro. Yeah, thank you. You say some crazy shit. Do you still want to battle? If it's right and it makes sense. And why I mean that is because - But that's the Hollywood shit you was talking about? Yeah, you think it's so right. If it makes sense, all that shit there. Nah, I'm not here then. I heard you, yeah, heard you. Money man be like, whoa, whoa. Listen. Yeah, heard you. Well, hold on. Niggas smack be like, whoa, whoa. Beasley, Beasley do the karate and all that.
49:09Tony Yayo:Them niggas start be like, whoa. Don't Beasley do karate? Yo, yo, man. Them niggas start be like, whoa, that was a security guard. Niggas be like, whoa. Nah, but again, what you about to say, though, love you. I'm telling you. If it makes sense. If it makes sense is what you're talking about.
49:27If it makes sense, nigga. If it makes sense, then look. But to be up there, make it look effortless. You know what I'm saying? People don't know what go into that. I said, Tiff Lux always tell people, yo, listen. Because I tell the whole team. They know how I work when it come to them spaces. So you got to think.
49:46Tony Yayo:For, to whom much is giving, much is expected. When people paying their hard-earned money. Look at the crowd. Because when you used to like see King of the Dot battles, and a lot of battles. With King of the Dot, they had a big like arena or some shit. Yeah. So I'm doing the head count. Like looking like... Pause, if that's a pause. You know, you counting. You caught yourself. You caught yourself. There was no point. Because y 'all are filling venues. It was like venues was getting bigger and bigger. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? At that point, that's all I'm saying is - Yeah, so the money guy that makes sense, I get it.
50:15Trust me, I get it, man. No, so I understand. I mean, for me, because people paying their hard earned, and they coming to see you. It's like, you know, it's like, man, I'll never forget Michael Jordan saying that, and that was beautiful. He said, so a person buy a ticket to come see me. I mean, that's their first time seeing me. Facts. You feel me? You don't know what they had to do. I see somebody said that, even when he was playing on the Washington Wizards, and I think it was his last game, and he was still going hard, and somebody asked him, like, yo, it's the last game. Mike, why you going so hard?
50:42He said, man, somebody in here paid for that Michael Jordan experience. Come on. He said, all they know is they came here thinking they're about to get that Michael Jordan experience, and I'm going to give it to them. They want that. Word. You got to respect that. I was in London and people was coming from Amsterdam, all type of places. Like, yo, listen, I'm here to see you. Like, nigga, you better show up. And they sit through all of that shit to that last battle. That what? You know how summer madness used to be? So you're saying that money that they paid to see you, something that need to be going to you, if not at least most of it.
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54:07See if it's an option during checkout. fastest according to Ookla Speedtest based on Speedtest intelligence data second half 2025 all rights reserved look look you can't even put a price tag on on what God gonna give you right cause look we talking about something that happened in 2012 that's still trickling all the way into you know what I'm saying like your legacy you know what I mean it's gonna follow you you know it's gonna precede you so that's my thing is I wanna give my all man like that that means something to me. So when we got to do those performances, nah, man. I got it. This moment means everything to, look, not just that one show, but the culture.
54:52I'm up there representing. Like if somebody never saw a battle rap before, you know what I'm saying? Somebody go, oh, turn on a load of luck. You know what I mean? They got to get that, man. And the love that we put into it is what what makes the culture sustain itself. You know what I mean? And that's the thing, what brought you to the well? You feel me? You saw some things that was like, hold up, niggas.
55:14Tony Yayo:Yeah, you gotta think about it. You know how niggas got microwave music? There's microwave battles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With like, me talking about this gonna make me go back and watch the Calico, yo, I gotta find that shit. Just to go back, it's 14 years later, and I had this nigga on the shoulder asking what the fuck was the thought process. You know what I mean? You nigga come with a pallbearer, a casket. Fucking, you know what I mean? Yo, telling you a bitch, you're a bitch. You know, I forgot that. And then that's what I said. Then they went to niggas pulling out paperwork or nigga baby mom's cheating on them.
55:48Tony Yayo:It was just, it got, to me, that makes the battle iller. Yeah, nah, yeah, cause you know what battle rap taught me? What? How to live. Why you say that? How to truly live. Look It's no hoes barred up there man Yeah You feel me Yeah Anything you done did Murder Nigga will find anything Yeah And if he If he know what he doing He could take that one section I've seen it I've done it Nigga take a one section That ain't really But I could shift the whole perspective on it You know what I'm saying Yeah shit might not be true But nigga go in on your baby mom You feel me? You know what I mean? All type of shit.
56:31I mean, we gonna call those out. Shout them out, my bro. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how niggas could do a spit on their face. We gonna call those out. Yeah, yeah, we gotta call those out though. Nah, nah, listen. Because look, what makes it what it is is when you hear based on a true story. You're like, oh, nah, nigga, this happened. That gives the extra validity. You know what I mean? It brings you more into, you're more compelled. So, when somebody going and talking about background checking, oh, nigga, you said But niggas found out you like this? When you go into that, you know what I'm saying?
57:04Hold on, you exposed to somebody to a whole nother space or area that... So when I say it taught me how to live, you know what I mean, and how to be true, you know what I mean? Because, bro, you up there. What you did is on the table. From one day to the next, man. So you get out here and get out of pocket if you want to.
57:22Tony Yayo:You know how battle rappers are the best rappers, man. Them niggas be like, no, you sold the work. Well, here's the paperwork. He got his man already passing his shits out. It's the most creative, it's as good as wrestling, man. It's better than wrestling because it's bars, but the theatrics for me, I just miss it. No disrespect to smacking none of them, because whatever they, KOD, all the battle leagues, battle leagues in London, Canada, like we just, I just wanted people to see it, the way it was at that point. Oh, that's a beautiful thing. The Drake and Mook shit was what, 2020? When that was supposed to happen, when year that was supposed to happen.
58:01Tony Yayo:It might have been before that. It might have been 2019, 2020. Yeah, between 2016. Yeah, between 2016, probably, 2015, 2016. 2016, 2014. Oh, true, yeah, see. Yes, all right, cool. That shit. It felt like it was just yesterday, you know what I'm saying? I remember that, and I was like, damn, niggas. I was like, yo, these niggas about to battle. Drake about to battle this nigga. Because Drake was one of the biggest fans of battle rap. It was going everywhere. It was going everywhere. Hell yeah, nah. Look, one thing I can say about - Let's make battle rap great again. Yeah, nah, it's the performances, man.
58:39And look, even now, right? You was just talking about the Joey Badass joint. Yeah, shout out to Joey Badass.
58:47Tony Yayo:Joey Badass love the battle rap. Come on, everybody love that. Joey Badass and Luck got a joint. Like, me and Daylight was supposed to, That's how that whole thing went on. But like, it's certain battles that demand certain attention to where even the players, the artists, understand the magnitude of this matchup. So they rise to different occasions. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, even like... Like Daylight used to do a lot of crazy shit. Yeah. But he know when it's time, like nigga, cut it out. Like, this is one of them. Daylight is a technician. He's one of them. I can say that. Like every, like those that's, that's them dudes, like how we do it, we know when it's, oh, this one ain't for play play.
59:32This is where, nah.
59:35Tony Yayo:I could describe, Daylight's the type of nigga that's going to say some shit like out of space. Yeah, he gonna go. You know what he gonna do. He gonna go. Lux, Lux is charismatic. Like typical Harlem confidence. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He gonna get this work. Indeed. Crap. Oh! Oh! Those are classical. Mook is more, he's a, he got the Harlem and shit in them, but he's like more aggressive boss. Yeah. Like, you know you gonna get that pain, but it's not coming as smooth as this guy. Yeah, it ain't gonna Mook. But he gonna kill you. Cause everybody, Harlem had the spitters, you know what I mean? Jersey.
1:00:13Tony Yayo:You know, you had a lot of Jersey niggas that was nice too. You know, like, it just, from every barrel, there was somebody, Hollow to Dawn, DNA. Yeah, yeah. But come on, man. See what I'm saying? Yeah, that was that thing. Come on, man. That was that thing. Man. No, it was a move. And look, the energy that day - Look at that crowd. Yeah, the energy that day. Y 'all got like 100 ,000 apiece that day, right? Hell no. What the fuck? Hell no. That's the least - That's the problem? That was the problem? That's the problem. That was the problem. Damn, look at that crowd, nigga. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
1:00:51Tony Yayo:Where the fuck was y 'all at? It was in Westwood. And that's a no mercy crowd. Pack. To capacity in that motherfucker. That's no mercy. That was you versus Moe? No. This is Calico. Oh, you in Calico. Yeah. Damn. Y 'all at least got 50. You got 50k out there. What? Nigga, we ain't even talk about the numbers. Let's just say this though. Sometimes what it means to do, but look, the craftsmanship - It don't matter. This lasts forever. You feel me? See, this is a different kind of blessing. A nigga that made more money off that than what they got paid for. A nigga that made so much money just because of this.
1:01:24So it's like - That's what I mean. You hear me? Real talk. I got you. I got you. I believe - Blessings come in so many different forms sometimes. Yes, yes. That's why you gotta be true. Them blessings come in so many different forms, man. That's it. I got you. I was totally creativity. At that point, it was just like, all right. It wasn't even about that. It was - Nigga had Calico on the obituary, nigga. Shit crazy. Yeah, and look, all creative shit. Is Calico still battling? Yeah. Okay. Yo, shout out to Calico. He got Winter Madness. Fuck with Calico. So Calico, yeah, Calico got a dope ass set up, man.
1:01:58He do Winter Madness in Detroit. Like that shit is fire.
1:02:01Tony Yayo:Oh, so no, Summer Madness, they still do Summer Madness? No, but he got Winter Madness. Oh, we got to check that out. Yeah. We got to tap in. Shout out to Calico, facts. Yeah, this is what we, we got to retune in. Like, you know what I'm saying? Everything was going on. Yeah, all this shit was crazy. Like doing all of this. That's the famous casket right there. Yeah, but like this, yo, Virto, we really, the dude who's showing us everything, he ain't know nothing. He didn't know what was going on. We really went there to look at caskets and talking and having dialogue with him about, yeah, we got to ship the body to New York.
1:02:36We need it on this date. Like we walked the whole thing. Like this is what, you know, the showmanship. That was creative. Yeah. Yeah, you know, give it the 24 seven type of shit. This thing man wasn't out back then, right? No. Nah, nah.
1:02:50Tony Yayo:It might've just been getting popping or some shit. Yeah, nah, it was, everything was pretty much on YouTube. Yep, yep. That's what's going on. That was like my, honestly. Yeah. See, this is what I'm saying. Yeah, we was having fun. This was, honestly, the battle rap was kind of my introduction to YouTube when I really think about it. That's what I just learned today. Mmm. Cause I was on, I really was on YouTube. Y 'all can see this guy was really into his battle rap stuff. Yo, Banks too. In terms of other rappers. Yo, would you ever add a... Summer Man? A cypher or a battle with Banks? Who? I was gonna ask you that too.
1:03:26Like, out in Queens, just seeing Banks get busy.
1:03:29Tony Yayo:Banks used to destroy niggas. Paws, you would say. Banks used to... No, that was good. That was cool. Yeah, we know, yeah. Destroy niggas. Yeah, like... Banks was a nigga that was like... Maybe not. Rob Markman, he comes like, cause you gotta remember, we was hustling when Lost Boys dropped. So when Freaky Tired, them niggas, uh, uh, uh, rest of the peace. Freaky Tired, niggas was like, uh, uh, uh, with the cracks. Rob Markman, Ph.D.: Uh, uh, uh. Rob Markman, Ph.D.: So niggas used to go to my man Fat Shy Crab, we used to rap over there. So I kind of found, discovered Banks, cause Banks had balls.
1:04:04Tony Yayo:Like he was like 15, talking about he got the razor blade and the traffic keeper and all this shit. I'm like, oh shit. So 50 was like, oh shit. He's just one of them niggas that sit. This is why I feel like niggas can't fuck with him. Because he'll sit in the crib and just write.
1:04:21Tony Yayo:Like all day. Like he's one of them niggas. I'm not saying Fab is not nice. I can see him. Yo, how we get back to that? No, no, no. Yo, this guy's crazy, son. Yo, my man. Yo, my man. My man. My man. Fab is typing niggas now. What I'm saying is. Hey, yo. Fab is the type of nigga's dope outfit. He going to get liquor. Bitches in the studio light up. He going to catch the vibe. And he out. Banks the type of nigga ain't leaving the studio. Oh my God. This guy is crazy. That's all I'm saying. Banks ain't thinking about nothing but the boss. This guy is crazy. Listen, this is always... This is how Fab and Banks situation come up.
1:04:59Even if they don't know about it. I will say this and I got to say this. I appreciate... I promise you, I appreciate y 'all brothers. Everything y 'all did in hip hop... Me too, man.
1:05:08Tony Yayo:I appreciate both of y 'all too, man. Like y 'all, the Pemminship, y 'all are part of the DNA, man. As far as all of us that get busy, that's about that Pemminship, that really know what it is, as a New Yorker, you know what I'm saying? Got my next clothes on. As a New Yorker, thank you, brothers, man. Y 'all save livicism in ways that y 'all have no clue. Them verses, them mixtape verses will live forever in the minds of those that get busy. It's all bullshit you're saying, man. Nah, man. Listen, no, I really mean that. That's how I, this guy's a killer, man. Yeah, of course, but that's how I got nice, though.
1:05:46It's like, you gotta be inspired. You gotta hear niggas getting busy, man. Nah, you ain't lying about that. You ain't lying. I'm like, them niggas, man. Come on, y 'all niggas know y 'all mixtape rubber's crazy.
1:05:55Tony Yayo:I'm just saying, right now, a lot of rappers, I think if like me, Murda, Banks, 50, if we got in the studio and like we went song for song for song, we would destroy niggas. Like right now, I know like Banks vs. Fab, Banks got, I hear his record, he got heaters. Like right now he got shit that will shut a lot of niggas up. Yo, we just need to do the Fab versus Banks mixtape. All you critics. They should just do the mixtape. No, and I'm not, yo, I'm not glazing. That's what they call it, glazing that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard the records. You know what I mean? Fab would kind of be under pressure if Banks started dropping those records, bro.
1:06:31Tony Yayo:I'm gonna keep it real. He would try to rush him. Like he's a nigga that he got him. He probably got him, but he definitely don't got what Banks got. You too, Murda. Murda got some shit too. He just waiting for niggas to pop shit. Like, FIFT, he don't be kidding. Nah, yeah. FIFT is the check writer. I'm just letting this guy talk. No, this be the fun shit. This guy is crazy, boy. Because like, you know, a lot of niggas, they be like, yo, FIFT, you got to rap again, because FIFT will troll you to death. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He trolling you from the jet though. Right. So he ain't thinking about balls.
1:07:04Tony Yayo:And so when the nigga come at him with the balls, 50 like, fuck it all right again, fuck it, whatever. You know what I'm saying? But if niggas was the lock-in - Y 'all would have the city on fire. Rob Markman, Let's think about it. Rob Markman, G-Unit mixtape right now? New shit? Rob Markman, Think about, let's talk about the mixtapes with G-Unit. We are always going to be the bad guys. Nobody likes us. Fine. It's cool. We live like that. How old he had to wrap up. Nobody ever liked him. You know what I'm saying? Nah, the rapper, fuck. Chris Lighty, everybody. He was with Chris Lighty. You know what I'm saying?
1:07:38Tony Yayo:You know what I mean? Rest in peace, Chris Lighty. Rest in peace. But we never got along with nobody. And then niggas always had an excuse for G-Unit, because niggas hate us so much we were so successful. Serial, socks, sneakers. Those niggas. You know, queens get the money. So niggas started hating us so much like, well, they're not outside. We had hip hop police hating us. No G-Unit, no dip set. Swear to God, nigga. I used to go to the club. No G unit! Yeah, yo! Get out of here! Swear to God, nigga. Hip-hop police used to follow us around. We was number one. We was the bad boys in the game. We was number one on their list.
1:08:13Tony Yayo:Hip-hop police was heavy. You had Superman, tall white boy. We could make a movie on them niggas. Tall white boy grab you from your belt. I just want the guns. Nigga knew everybody's name. Them niggas knew everybody's name. Super Feds. You had curly top. Remember you screaming on P. Diddy in front of the club? Who are you all? Curly Top, you remember Curly? Nah, I never seen the club though. Man, them niggas, we went to the club one night, four different cars, they pulled over. Everybody's car separate, everybody went separate ways. Somebody told me, yo, they watching y 'all with binoculars from there, hip hop police.
1:08:48Tony Yayo:So we got Ben, so they be like, yo, why G-Unit never in the clubs? Niggas fine, yo, hip hop police didn't want us in the clubs. Them niggas used to call up promoters and be like, yo, dub it, G-Unit, dub it, 50, Yale, nah, dub it. Rob Markman, So we was the bad guys of the game. Rob Markman, So we was the bad guys of the game. Rob Markman, And the thing with the game is, we already know how the rap game is. Stand next to the fire. I heard Chris Lighty and a lot of people say that thing before. Rest in peace Chris Lighty. It's business. Stand next to the fire. Diddy hot? I'm staying over here. 50 hot?
1:09:20Tony Yayo:I'mma staying over here. We had French and everybody was around us. French is a small nigga. Acorn hot? He went from Acorn, you know, Caller. He said Acorn. It's Acorn, man. Acorn. Acorn. I thought he was being funny like - No, my fault. Nigga, I don't know what's going on. My fault. You know what I'm saying? But French niggas was around us. G-Una hot? Staying next to the fire. P Diddy hot? Staying next to the fire. Oh shit, them niggas over there hot? Staying next to the fire. Who hot? Kanye hot? Got to stand next to the fire. Nigga, G-Una. Oh, Caller. Remember when Kala dropped, Kala hot. Everybody was standing next to that fire.
1:09:59Tony Yayo:Standing next to the fire. You gotta think, niggas wasn't fucking with us. There was no fire to stand next to. If y 'all - Fab didn't do that. Other niggas could do that. There was no fire. There was no kumbaya, there was no fire. Banks didn't have that. Fab had that. Fab was standing next to any fire. Diddy hot, standing next to the fire. I feel you. Yo, how we get back to that, son? I feel like I'm about to put a - Yo, yo, yo, yo. 50 Hot, look, 50 Hot, go on tour with 50, stand next to the fire. Yo, it's my man. Jay-Z, on 50 Hot, first album, put him on tour, stand next to the fire. Seagull, y 'all better watch out.
1:10:35Tony Yayo:Stand next to the fire. They don't ever had no fire. There was no fire to stand next to except 50 Banks and niggas around. There was no fire. Yo, which y 'all had a motherfucking party. So you gotta think, that's the vintage, the friendships are vintage. because the game is about standing next to the fire too murder stand next to the fire future stand next to the fire but if y 'all did a G you didn't mix it right now this summer that shit would hit that shit would hit I like how that sounds that's a fire that's fire murder got records I don't rap no more No word about records. He get paid. Empire, he give me good money.
1:11:21Shout out to Empire, shout out to Ghazi, shout out to Nemo. You know the vibes, the whole crew over there. Bobby. Empire, Empire the Truth. Yo, you did, nah, that. Yo, your rap, the rap ups. I'm glad you went out the way you're supposed to went out with the joints. But I definitely gotta give you your flowers with that. But we can't get nobody on the show because of that shit though.
1:11:42Tony Yayo:He dissed everybody. What the? If a nigga mad at that, this shit was so creative. This shit was so fire. I done seen Jermaine Dupree tell him, yo, don't put me in that shit. When I seen Reverend Run - When I seen Reverend Run, Reverend Run said, yo, don't ever put me in that shit, man. Son of a rev run, that's my god too, man. Son of a rev run. Yo, that shit was just so, it just was so dope though, man. The way, the shit was, cause he, it was fire too. It was funny, but it was fire. I think he should just skip a year, one year though, cause we got the podcast. I might skip it this year, man. I ain't gonna even hold you.
1:12:17I might skip it this shit. Ruffled too many feathers.
1:12:18Tony Yayo:Jermaine Dupree want him, everybody want to get the kill. But this how dope it is though. Trick Daddy wanted to kill him? I don't know, Trick Daddy, we need you on the show too, man. What's the pastor do that took all the money, he wanted to fight him? Remember, what's that? What's my name? Free the pastor, man. The Brooklyn pastor. I ain't go, look, I ain't go to his church. At Casanova, 50 all y 'all niggas went to his church. I ain't go to his church. Damn, why you? We did go to his church. We didn't know what was going on before. Y 'all went to his church? Yeah, he went to his church. Yeah, he went to his church.
1:12:48Tony Yayo:I ain't go to his church. They ain't know what's going on. I'm 50 said he was robbing God's people. They saying that Juski skit was about him? The Juski skit. When I know he said when he started showing his suits and all in his closet, I was like, this guy's crazy. Phantom. He was playing Biggie. You don't remember that pastor? Yeah, the nigga had the outfits, man. Didn't he have like a Rolls Royce? Yeah, he had the Rolls Royce. He was showing Gucci suits. You know what's going on. Yeah, he bucked out. Once I saw that though - He said he wanna fight murder? I was like, yeah, this is a different kind of rap.
1:13:21Tony Yayo:When you see the Gucci shoes - No, he didn't say that. Yeah, he was doing the juice ski early, nigga. He was doing the juice ski. Man, free the pastor, man. He got like nine years or something, free the pastor. And then you remember niggas robbed the church that time. Niggas, I don't know if he owed niggas bread or whatever. Niggas came in - Oh, niggas ran down? In the church with hammers. Oh! That was murder man. That was murder man. I can't fucking. Murder Casanova was in that nigga church. Yo, free Casanova too, man. Free Cas. Free Cas. We was in his church. That nigga was robbing Godspeople.
1:13:57Tony Yayo:Nah. Yo, hold on. That happened in Brooklyn? Yeah. It happened in Brooklyn. It happened in Brooklyn, man. I think murder put him in a wrap-up. He wanted to fight him. Yeah, he did. Never heard a pastor call him out.
1:14:11Tony Yayo:How to everybody. Pastor call you out. It's time to chill. No! Stop. Oh my God. Yo, what the fuck is wrong with this nigga? Yo, y 'all something else. Free the pastor, man. Free the pastor. Can we talk about Shivers Road with Rainhouse? Oh, Stryva's Road, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stryva's Road, excuse me. Yeah, no, Stryva's Road, so look, it's - What you called the yay? Stryva's Bucky. Stop smoking, shout out to the unit dispo. Go ahead, I'ma stop smoking. Nah, Stryva's Road, it's a real concise project. It's a vote project. Like, we did it a while back, and it just, we didn't find the right time to - Rob Markman - Shout out to Rain.
1:14:47Rain is nice too. Rain, Rain, dope. He's one of them. He can make some records. Rain - Yo, he definitely, yeah, it's jazz infused. It's just, it's like a soundtrack to the times that was going on then and it was so beautiful about the project though. Me and Rain, when we was building it, we were definitely in transformative spaces, let me say. We was challenging each other creatively. Rob Markman - Right. Rob Markman - How we was living, the conduct and how we was just moving about, we infused that. We went off that energy and everything we did with each record as we was building it, it's just, bro, creatively.
1:15:27How we was moving, how we was living, where it was taking the project. Man, yo, you ever had some shit that you know, it's just, it's just happened. It feel like something else is surrounding it. Rob Markman, I know how you are. I know how you are.
1:15:41Tony Yayo:You an aura guy. Rob Markman, Very much so. Rob Markman, So I know it's one of them. Rob Markman, Yeah. Rob Markman, If you got to think too much of something, don't make it exclusive no more. Rob Markman, Right. Rob Markman, So there's a lot of microwave music. So niggas are looking for something different. Like Alchemist doing something with Erykah Badu. Rob Markman, Come on. Rob Markman, I want to check that out. Rob Markman, Come on. Rob Markman, That's beautiful. That's fire. Rob Markman, If you had an Alchemist track, you and Reign, I'm going to check with that.
1:16:08Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Oh man. all for like last two weeks, what's next? And then sometimes too much of something. It's like sneakers or clothes. Like a lot of brands be big and then they flood the market. Like, oh, that's what's working right now? Then you get a bunch of that. But if something's exclusive and different, you checking for that. So I know if you and Rain do something, I'm definitely gonna check for that. Yeah, it's, cause it's not like we trying to mainstream, The Pride is definitely not one of those. This shit was totally about, yo, that's the vibe. Rob Markman - I feel good. Let's just go.
1:16:45Rob Markman - Let's just give it to who rocking with us. Rob Markman - You know what's crazy?
1:16:47Tony Yayo:I used to look, I look at things totally different. I think it's all about having a cult following that. So before it's like, what kind of artists would you sign? Would you sign this artist that fills arenas or this artist that's doing House of Blues? And I said, they're both artists. I used to think it's just, you know, of course, arenas, you're going to make more money, but having a cult following of fans that ain't going nowhere. So you got guys like Lucky. He dropped the same thing. He's number four. He's Drake. But my kids love him. He has a fan base. The Don Oliver dude, right? Yeah, Don Oliver.
1:17:23Tony Yayo:He's, you know, in New York City. He sold out USBS, Jersey, and Madison Square Garden. He has a cult following. Yeah, nah. Rob Markman I think that's what it's more about is building a co-following. Rob Markman And you have that. Rob Markman Yeah. Rob Markman And that's why, you know, we always gave them the sound, you know what I'm saying? So that's why after a lot of battles I would drop a project just to remind people, listen, the conversations, just imagine these conversations, these thought-provoking conversations with good vibes, good music behind it. And that's pretty much what the project was.
1:17:58It was just really giving you substance. Like the world is surface, the substance is where you want to go with it in terms of just everyday life, right? People, sometimes you feel like this, you feel like that. But this right here, this some thought provoking shit. Ain't gonna hold you.
1:18:13Tony Yayo:And then the project with Mook is some flashy Harlem shit or - That's that. Nah, I'm gonna say this. That thing with murder is - Yeah, I gotta hear that one. Yeah, that's some grit, man. Okay, okay. You gotta throw Fergie baby, Chuck Cash on in, Neve Bucks. Yo, who else you like in that? I like everybody you just named. True story, but - Anybody else I don't know? Shit, you need to Anthony King. Tell the Anthony King. Check him out. He get in his R &B space. He's fire. Who else you should be? Shit, you need to, my God, what's my, what's my? Chase, Chase Belli. What's, oh Chase, what's your shit?
1:18:57Chase, Chase gonna kill me right now. He gon' kill me right now. Chase Belly? He got a drink with Max too. He just got a drink with, I think, Biggavelle and French. Okay. Okay, okay. Yeah, Chase. Damn, I forgot how you say yo. You got to check for Chase. You got a 4G, Finesse. Yeah, my young boy, Kels. You got to check him. Nah. I'ma, I got to send you some stuff. Yeah, send me some stuff. Facts, man. Facts, facts. Yeah, nah, I got, yeah, it's some, yeah, you see it, yup, that's it. Chase Belly. Yeah. Better go on.
1:19:36Tony Yayo:Since we in Harlem, I'm going with, I'm going with Fergie Baby, my artist of the week. Harlem. Okay, okay. Dope, dope, dope. Who you going with from Harlem right now? From Harlem? Yeah. I'm not up on the young guys right now, but you know who I'm going with though? Chase Belly. I'm going with - Go with Chase Belly. You know what, I'll go with Chase Belly. He got a song with Max B and French right now. Let's go Chase Belly. Who's your artist of the week? Who, me? Yeah. It could be any. It don't have to be from Harlem. We just went Harlem. Oh, that's what y 'all did? Yeah. Shit. I ain't gonna front it right now.
1:20:09I ain't gonna, I been listening to this Strava's Road. I ain't gonna lie to you. All right. That shit sound crazy, but - Shout to you and Rain. Yeah, artist of the week. Yeah, I'm being - When that's dropping?
1:20:17Tony Yayo:Tell them when it's dropping. On the 9th, June 9th. All right, cool. June 9th. Make sure y 'all get that. Shout to my man, Rain. I gotta go hear this Chase Belly record. Shout out to Loaded Lux. Shout out to the whole battle rap world. We here to put y 'all on this platform. I love battle rap. I got a school murder. I got a refreshment memory. Shout out to Banks. Banks no battle rap. And we got one of the top five best battle raps ever. You know how Harlem do. Real report. Make sure y 'all like, share, subscribe. Make some more noise for Loaded Lux. We out.
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Loaded Lux joins Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda on The Real Report for a deep conversation on the state of battle rap, why the culture lost momentum after moving away from YouTube, and what it would take to make battle rappers feel like stars again. Lux breaks down the legacy of his legendary Calicoe battle, from the hearse and pallbearers to the obituary and the pressure of returning to the stage after four years. The crew debates dream matchups like Lloyd Banks vs Fabolous, Drake wanting to battle Murda Mook, Joe Budden vs Hollow, and why penmanship hits different in front of a live crowd. Lux also speaks on transitioning into music, his new project, and how battle rap shaped the way he lives, thinks, and performs.
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