The Real Report - London Brown on Uncle Marvin’s Death, Raising Kanan Backlash, working on Ballers with The Rock & touring with Chris Tucker

20:47Tony Yayo:It's very dangerous. Like that's why I said in a Bruce Willis movie, if you shot, you would know about the blanks. That's why I was kind of asking you because the blanks - I got to say, I know about the blanks, yeah. No, no. Money and Violence didn't have blanks in it. Yes, they did. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it was regular graphics. You gotta ask the question first. It didn't look like that. But go ahead, I'll just say - We didn't have no graphics and there it was. And in the Bruce Willis movie, I actually got shot. So of course, when they shot me, it was blank. So yes, I had experience of getting shot and using it as well.

21:14Tony Yayo:No, when you get shot, you don't have blanks on it. Rob Markman, of course, you got the packs and then making something - Rob Markman, but what I'm saying is when you're handling the gun, you getting shot doesn't mean shit. I got shot too in the head. I had a blood pack on my head and I had all that other shit and swat too. Y 'all go check it out. Tyrus is out now. Shout out to Shane Gillis. We're winning. We're winning. Shout out to Shane Gillis. Emmy nominated. Out. Best show ever. See, for me, I know with the squid packs and they go with firecrackers blowing up on your head. But with the blinks, you have to be crazy.

21:48Tony Yayo:You know what I'm saying? Because also, too, man, you do got to be careful because, especially that scene with Kanan, he still is fairly close. Like, sometimes, you know, the dust and different things like that can be what it is. But yeah, we do use the squids. Sometimes we use them without. And then the last two takes, that's when they come in and really put the stuff, because the only guy made me two copies of that shirt that they bought. so they can really show the blood and everything like that. But we had a great, I mean, again, everybody was down to the details. ChatGPT can do more than answer questions.

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25:19Tony Yayo:Once his character died. When do you know your character's going to die? Do you know like three weeks ahead of time? And how do you feel? And do you get upset a little bit? I didn't get upset because I felt like... The show about the end anyway then. Yeah, it kind of worked out. Yeah, like this shit is over. It's over. I was like, all right, cool. No, but I'm just saying, do you know like three weeks ahead of time or two weeks or like a couple of days? I'm trying to remember when, shout out to Sasha Penn, he's a show runner. I was trying to think if he actually told me in the beginning of the season or as we got closer to it, because they be trying to, stars are really good at keeping the project secret because people you know they beat spoilers and people have heard some things get out before so we really didn't know like that because they were trying to protect the script so we would shoot the episodes I think the audience thinks that we shoot like we get all the scripts and we just kind of know all of what in fact I wanted to know what was ahead but I'm glad they didn't let me know that way I could just play it for real.

26:24And so I just had to be extremely present because I didn't know what was going on. But so that emotionally it all made sense. I just had to really pay attention. So as opposed to, because sometimes if you get the script, if you get something like a series and you know everything that's going on, you may play some things too soon that you don't need to be playing. And let's just say, had I been, for whatever reason, y 'all seen Marvin the Nigga was sad in season three. You know, I used to say that already. But by playing it towards the end, and we don't know. Between shooting, we don't, first of all, we shoot out of order.

26:59So it's kind of hard to keep up with what's going on. All I know is I got to, let's say, Marmon got a scene where he's picking up jukebox. And then the next day, me and Rock having McDonald's at the table. Like, we don't really know what's going on. You just got to just know your stuff. and then between shooting out of order and edits. We've had alternate endings and they do two versions of it and then the next thing is they change the script all the time. We get rewrites all the time. Draft after draft and we'll do a table read. That's one version of it and then they'll email another version that night and then the morning of they give us some new size in the trailer.

27:43It's always constant changes. So -

27:45Tony Yayo:See, to all you actors on the come up, it's a lot of work. It's not easy. Oh, it is, man. I've seen a scene of somebody dying so much than I seen Jaws. They had so many different versions of it. It was like five or six, I think maybe different versions. I think the only one who might - Which one was that? Who do something like that is Spike Lee good for that. Like Spike Lee a double back on a... If you go back and watch a Spike Lee movie, for example even like Malcolm X and there's a scene where Denzel is shaking Spike Lee's hand when right when Malcolm becomes um Muslim or whatnot and Spike Lee's character goes to visit him at the at the mosque and then um Denzel's character and Spike they do a hug and Spike Lee he'll show that like three or four times and just he'll just kind of show the hug this way this way and he come so I thought, well that's the first one I thought was Spike, but it was Lil Jermaine.

28:40What you thought about when you saw like, damn, they got me dying like four, five different times in this movie. You know what? I understood it. And I think it was solid because I think the writers knew and Sasha knew the impact Marvel's going to have. On the fan base. So as opposed to, again, as opposed to it being one shot and just falling to the ground, I think they just said, we're going to ring out this scene and let it happen like that.

29:07Tony Yayo:How many takes you had to do on that one? Oh, man, that was a few. No less than five hours of doing just that scene itself. It's just coming on the angles. And then also, because of his graphics, you got to time it out and make sure the shots line up with the fall. and then on top of that it's like like again you it is that's why I was just trying how do we how do we make this how do we make it work but I think they they knew the impact that Marvel was going to have probably even more than I did and that's why I think they just said let it go out because initially the shootout scene that I felt like would have been not for me but most people I would imagine if you want to go out dramatic I'm thinking the shit with Breeze not Breeze, I'm thinking in the training day, set it off on the car.

30:00And doing the shooting and you really get the shots off. But it was actually better that it was just like this because it's just like, is this nephew really going? It was quiet, it was somber, wasn't a lot going on. So everybody, whatever popcorn or whatever smoke you had, you was, at that scene, you was locked in because there wasn't nothing going on. You know what it felt like with all the characters?

30:18Tony Yayo:It felt like you and Lou was overly loyal and it's like Like Kanan and his mom was just super grimy. Rob Markman - But I think that's the thing. I don't think people even... Because initially when the show dropped, I remember all the women rallied behind Rock. Go ahead, Black Queen. She's strong. And she done... I'm like, Rock is manipulating all this. She puppeteering her brothers and - Rob Markman - But she had to be like that, I felt like. I feel like she had to be like that. Rob Markman - Nah, she was too crazy. Rob Markman - She was not. She was amongst other shows. Rob Markman - You dropped loose.

30:46Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - That's true. Rob Markman - She had to be like that. Rob Markman - You dropped loose like a dead dog in the streets, man. Rob Markman - Well, you know what? Rob Markman, okay well by that point. Rob Markman, certain things like that. Maybe by that point, yeah. I mean, certain things like that. Yeah, but I'm talking about everything else, how she was moving, she had to be. Then she knocked off her bodyguard after that, because he seen it. But people already hated her by this. She was like, I knew he was dying. Like, come on. Yo, come in for a minute, come to the car. They was just super grimy characters.

31:11Tony Yayo:And Kanan killed you in a fucking church. Yeah, but again, that's the Kanan I think people wasn't... When we first started shooting, And it was just like, man, Kanan ain't, we don't really see, we don't see the OG Kanan right here. I'm like, no, you got to let this nigga build. He got to build that character. He got to, you got to, you don't, look, people don't become, people aren't born criminals. There's some things that happened through childhood. What happened when, who really put him on to this and who bullied him? His mom's making him chill as pops. All of that, man. When you think about, even when we listen to Joe Crack's story about him getting into and how he became this bully.

31:50He was getting bullied at one point. He was just like, well, dang, that's not, at some point he was getting bullied and he said, enough is enough. I'm going, we up, let's get with it. And so I think that with Kanan, again, it was just one of those things, it was like, it was a progress, a process of progress where we looked up and we said, okay, because when we first meet Kanan, he can't even stand in sight of blood. He throwing up with marmoshing, shooting in the head. And then we get to, we get fast forward.

32:19Tony Yayo:Yeah. Kane and you know. Super grimy. Grimy. But you know what's wild is that, I will say this, I was talking to Joey about this, which is we thought Unique was grimy until we saw him next to Breeze. We were like Breeze, something about Breeze. I'm like, we don't trust, I don't know, he, he. He's a little ruthless. He a little bit more ruthless. This kid ruthless. Something is you can't, you can't, you don't want him sitting in the back seat if that's your Uber. Definitely. Him. And that nigga him and Mo played Ronnie, a unique brother. Oh, yeah. He was driving me. He was driving me. If I was an Uber driver and I saw him and he was standing out there with that small members-only coat just staring, denied.

33:03I'm out of there. Him and them two, you wouldn't, you know. But like I said, Kanye grew to come. And Jukebox. She became more down. And you look at her, she like - That'd be understanding her story so much more than that. I was like, God damn. You see why she was so crazy. And that's why people just like, man, she knocked off rock. But I'm like, dude, when she looked at, she looking at Canaan like, yo, my dad. And they just really start bonding and getting close.

33:29Tony Yayo:When you died, people was happy that she killed his mom. Oh, that's wild. That's the first one. That's crazy. When they look at your character, everybody looks at you as the most loyal guy. You do anything for your sister. You do anything for your daughter. You was doing anything for the young little baby, the white girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you would go out your way for other people. That's why I think people, like people cried. I spoke to Jess Hilarious. Yo, why they kill Uncle Mark? My friends, brothers, sisters. Like you was a liked character, loved character on the show. I'm glad it worked out like that.

34:04Because sometimes you just don't know how the audience is going to gravitate to whichever characters and things like that. And then, again, we're not on a show with weak talent. You got Tony Danz on there, Wendell Pierce. You got some vets on there.

34:19Tony Yayo:Who's the boss? Come on, man. I mean, come on, man. They got Tony Danz on there. Who's the boss back in the days? That was my show, man. That's what I'm saying. That's why when he showed up, it was just cool. You know, and it was just nice because even what he did was you could tell there was another group of audience who goes back. They don't know nothing about 50. They don't know nothing about hip hop. But they know Tony Danz, that community of people. You better believe it. Because who's the boss is what? 30, 40 years? Oh man, easy. He was kids watching that. Oh man. That was our show. We watched that faithfully.

34:50That's a fact. Yeah.

34:51Tony Yayo:He was like a single father that everybody loved. Oh man. Stored on the show. And you can still, for sure. You can still feel that energy just, cause you know, different people, when we on set, I've seen people go up to him and talk to him and Tony still, he's a likable dude. Like he, you know, stories for days. Just, he knows everybody. Hey, yo. I remember I was on the boat. It was me, Noah, and Jesus, man. We walk in, we feed the people. I'm like, how you know Jesus? But Tony know everybody. Everybody. I'm used to him playing a good dad to him. See him play a good mafia guy. He been in front of TV so long that it's nothing for him.

35:34Tony Yayo:We got so much to talk about. Let's rewind in the time because come on, man. We got to talk about ballers and you doing TV with The Rock, man. You're going to make me go watch Bowlers all over again, bro. Dude, you know what? Bowlers is cool because that project, that allowed me to eat. I was like, all my stuff was in my mom's garage and in my trunk. So that project just finally - Hope you get your own shit. It just said, I can breathe. Finally, it was just, you know, because at that time, again, I was just in the grind of trying to figure it out. I had no agent or a manager. Was you doing comedy at that time?

36:12Tony Yayo:I was doing comedy at the time. I just found out you was doing comedy from Justin Larry. It's not too long ago. Yeah, I was doing stand-up at the time and had my little four jobs and just trying to figure it out. So when you got ballers, you was like, thank God. Dude, when I got - It's the rock. You know what? When I got ballers - You're the rock now, man. When I got ballers, I didn't even think. It took me a long time to believe that it was legit because they be making changes last minute on set, man. They like you. And then the network say, yeah, but you don't have a big enough name but we don't know this.

36:42And they switch out. We've seen it on Fresh Prince. They switched out. My wife and kids, they switched their daughters out. They'll switch actors out in a minute. So for me, not until I really, and crazy, not until I really, I was so broke. I remember I had to go, I had to move to Miami when I landed that. And I told them, they was like, you ready? I was like, listen, man, I need whatever check y 'all are supposed to give me after I work. I'm going to need that right now to just live. and we figured this out. That's your total company? Yeah, I told them. I said, man, I need an advance. I got to, you know, and they worked out it because they understood.

37:20I was, you know, just, but it was cool. Miami was cool, man. Miami was cool. We did two seasons there. I was really planning on moving back for the third, but we came to L.A. But even with that, that was cool because nobody knew who I was, but all my scenes was across from Dwayne. Right, Dwayne Johnson. And so I was only supposed to do like an episode or two. I wasn't really written in like that because that was a side idea. But they decided to make me a lead. And then I think really from what I was giving them, I ended up becoming like the antagonist in season one. Like everybody's going to love Dwayne anyway.

38:02But all my stuff was playing across from Dwayne. So I had to make him annoying and make him the friend that's trying to look out for his friend And just because if you don't give the writers anything, you know, you be in a coma in the next episode and you be in a car accident and you out of here. So I was trying to give them I'm telling you, I was trying to give them things to, you know, things to work with and just keep the character interesting. And that's how he stayed for five seasons. But even with Raising Canaan, that was the goal, too, which was let me just let me keep Marvin interesting so that they'd be like, all right, we know.

38:35We're going to write You were like Because also We got to bring these words Off the page If we not doing nothing The writers are like Why we keep giving him These monologues And these things And he don't even know how to Alright let's go over here And let's And that's why Certain people are leads That's why We got So with your

38:51Tony Yayo:Improv too You're not just reading The lines You improv some of it too Or no A lot of the first Like the first few seasons Definitely the first Couple seasons of Ballers And more so A lot throughout Ballers But then also The first couple seasons of Raising Canaan, because I think the writers was trying to find Marvin's voice. We all trying to find, you know, because sometimes these writers write these characters, but they don't really know who they are, except to us as actors, when we go into these auditions and we say, this is what you're looking for. Because even with Ballers, the character was supposed to be fat.

39:26His name was Fat Reggie, but I was the only one in there, you know, I'm buck 80, and I'm looking at all these linemen. But they didn't know. So I was just like, I was just ready to go. It's like, man, with these projects, sometimes it's like being an athlete on the bench. And you've been shooting in the gyms. You're like, coach, I'm ready to. And even if they don't want to, reluctantly, because sometimes being like that with the network people, the people in the room will be like, yo, London's the guy. But the suits be like, we don't know who is he and this. But people in the room were able to fight for me.

40:02And so when these opportunities come up, it's trying to – so when the coach say, hey, yo, all right, Brown, let's go. I'm going there. I'm trying to lay up, dunk, cross over, get triple-double. You got to show up what you got because this is your opportunity to make it happen. And also, like I've been saying, I don't know who's going to watch the show. I know his eyes, I don't know who's going to be, you know, go visit Fifth or go to some event. And Fifth got Ray Canaan and he got that and this and that playing on the screens while music and drinking. Who's the dude over there? Who's that? I need to make sure that whoever might tune in, that might be able to make some things happen.

40:51I'm on point, man. So all this was what, five seasons? Yeah, but also the fire season, yeah.

40:55Tony Yayo:That's great, man. Worked next to The Rock. There's so much stuff that a lot of people out there didn't even know you did. And did you go to acting school or no? Yeah. Well, I come from theater. Okay. And of course, we take classes and courses. Explain that to me. How is that? Because I hear acting classes. I never hear nobody say theater, but a lot of actors that do theater seem to be great actors, too. Yeah. So we, the thing, I think the difference between theater actors and TV actors is, you know, theater, I personally feel like it gives you a different work. It creates a different work ethic for you.

41:34And then also, because, you know, once you start, once you start to play, then ain't no stop, cut and go. You got to know that material because the show, once it go, that train leave is out of there. Then two, there's a different kind of presence that you, I think you develop from working in such a large space. For example, that's like, I feel like if an artist only performs in a club for 100 people, that's cool. But some artists don't know how to transform when it's time to hit that stadium and come out in that theater, in the rooms, and they still, they standing here. I'm like, man, you got a whole stage of energy.

42:13Is your energy, can your energy be felt in a larger space? And I think with theater, we learn how to physically you be in the space and command that. So now when it's time to go to TV or film or whatnot, you got to create all that same energy you have on stage, but play it right in the frame. And you learn, like for example I had to do I did I did a show, I did my first TV show called The Hustle And I played like me And Alon Noel, Alon Noel plays He plays I forget his name, but he played Coltrane on Nemesis That's according to Kent Project that's Doing his doing, anyway

43:00Tony Yayo:Nemesis on Netflix right now He's the darkest game guy Shout out to Alon Noel. So we did that show. We only did six episodes. I was like, man, it was number one on Fuse, small network, but we did well. The Hustle? Yeah, it's called The Hustle. Next thing you know, I'm in the middle. At this point, I'm now, I'm touring with Chris Tucker. And, you know, we're doing work in the clubs and doing the theaters or whatever. Oh, with the comedy shit. Yeah. ChatGPT can do more than answer questions. It can help you get real work done. Chat GPT work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps. You bring the goal along with the information it needs, like briefs, notes, files, feedback, calendars, data sets, or project plans.

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46:50that's why time and things just line up the way they do I don't know what's next but I know that you know I described this earlier it's like it's like bench pressing like when you first kind of starting out you start off with the bar and then 10, 25 and as you begin to get your reps up you start adding more weight that you can handle and I feel like raising Canaan was just a whole gym session it was a whole class for five seasons where I got pressed in a way to demonstrate other sides of me that I didn't even know was quite there. Like, Ballers wasn't emotional at all. You know what I mean? That was just a light comedy.

47:31But by season five, you know, Marvin was at a completely different place emotionally than the other season. With Drew, with his sister, with everything. There wasn't no snacks involved. It was just drama, which was cool because I wanted people to see this whole other season. side from even from even from stand up or from season one when you look at even season two and season five marvin's just at a emotionally different place that i think the people felt because i was at a different place i couldn't play marvin i don't think 10 years ago there's like certain things you got to grow i had to grow into who who i am today to even carry that kind of emotional weight with Marvin or even understand what that is, you know, because I lost a brother in 2015.

48:19So, you know, which is wild. Yes, peace be upon him, which is, you know, that's why Marvin and London are not, we're not that far off from each other. Like I'm just a, if you want to call it this, I'm like a healed version of Marvin. I know I can't go around pistol whipping people and or, you know, but I do understand. Why some people need to get pistol whipped. Oh, man, yeah. You know what I mean? But as you get older, we realize consequences. So you change, move a little differently. So, but I do understand Marvin. Like I said, I used to cut hair in rehab centers. So I grew up around a lot of OGs, a lot of cats that did time, had to come back home, halfway house, figure it out, who used to be dope fiends and cleaned up, got their GR and social security.

49:11So people can't change. That's why even there's a scene where Marvin was telling Sam the crack case, man, take this money and just leave town, get on the bus. Because Rock was just like, do what you got to do.

49:22Tony Yayo:You're supposed to not because that was. But Marvin understand because Marvin had been on drugs at one point. Marvin got, again, we see this empathy from Marvin. Marvin's like, listen, man, I'm trying to give you a chance because I know how we all mess up. Take this money and just be out. Mm-hmm. Marvin was trying, throughout Marvin really does try to be his version of thorough. But that's why, that was the chance he gave Sam. But when he found Sam in the crack house, he had knocked his head off. He didn't want to do that. But it's just principles at that point. So he's just like, all right. Most of it not here.

50:01You out here, you didn't pay attention. It's over now. It's over now. We got to do what we got to do. That's all. That's all Marvin is.

50:07Tony Yayo:Well, yo, I learned so much about you, man. Because the ball is thing Like you made me go back And look at some more episodes of that And a five year run on that A five year run on Canaan But what I'm learning from you Is I didn't know if you took acting classes Or theater I didn't know Oh speaking of that Not to cut you off But the reason that classes are so important Is I think people think We take acting classes Or we train in acting To learn how to act But we really are training To learn how not to act and just live in the truth of these things. And I think that even with that, a lot of times people think that good acting is crying and all the emotions, but it's really trying to not show all of that.

50:53And we feel those things, but we're not trying to play those things externally. We're just trying to just... Because when you are really listening with acting, You're in the scene Like London knows what he's going to say But Marvin don't know So I got to really just sit and listen And process that The actors may say the lines in a different way On the second take anyway I can't go home and practice how I'm really going to say it All I have to be I just I need to be present And then writers are so good It ain't hard to escape Into some of these circumstances I'm sure if y 'all had to do some of them lines for Marvin You know You ain't got to go sit in a dark basement of an acting class and figure out how I'm going to feel pain or what.

51:39Nah, man, y 'all, we've all been upset before, so you know when it's time to that beat down, only thing y 'all would have needed to do is just learn how to hold the punches so you don't really put a nigga through the wall, but other than that, the anger of what Marvin felt, yeah, we've all felt that stuff before, so I mean, they just did a good job with writing it too, man. That's dope, man. That's great.

52:01Tony Yayo:So let's rewind How the hell you get on tour with Chris Tucker? So I'm in LA. I'm in LA working clubs, working open mics. I'm just working the scene and just getting my chops up. And I was in LA at the improv. I was going to support one of my boys out of Atlanta. His name is Brandon Lewis. And we were both young comics at the time. And so when you do the improv, D-Ray Davis out of Chicago. When you do the improv on Monday nights in LA People, I think some comics think that it's easy Because it's like a black room Because you black and they black, it should just work But that room, that's a hard room Because they always got TV cats in there John Bob, Michael Blackson to Kevin Hart You know, cats, the hitters are in the room And then their audience, they go there every Monday So they want to see what they want to see Anyway, I went to go support my boy Brandon Lewis He goes up there, does well D-Ray says Actually I was trying to leave Because I don't be hanging out, so I was trying to leave And the guy at the night Of that night, Big Spike was like Hey man, you always running off Why don't you just hang out sometimes?

53:15I said man, I'll be hanging out man He said man, just hang out, I was like alright, whatever So I stick around, D-Ray Davis Said hey yo, has Chris Tucker seen your set? I was like nah man He said man, you should let him see I was like nah, he working out Chris Tuck was working on new material for his tour. I ain't want to bother him. So then D-Ray was like, hey, man, Chris, you should see, you should watch London. And so Chris, you know, I go on stage and I do whatever my five-minute spill was, and we exchanged numbers. And then I started going out on the road with him. So I thank him for that experience because it just let me know, you know, it gave me something to aspire to work towards because he, I'm with him.

53:59And you like, and see, I know this because y 'all around, you know, y 'all around 50. Y 'all be around people.

54:04Tony Yayo:Right. But, you know, sometimes the audience, or, you know, sometimes your friends or whatnot, they think they around or have seen some celebrities they may have seen on TV. But when you around us, like a real, a bonafide, like whatever room they go into, there'd be red carpets. Right. Chris is, I don't care what people thought he was. They say, because we ain't seen him on Rush Hour. They probably thought that he wasn't, with the guy, that nigga's the man. Oh, come on. He's an A-lister. A-lister, bro. You know he's an A-lister. And he come outside with them. He hit that stage. They get all that confetti and shiny dust on his coat, on that lapel.

54:42I mean, when them lights hit, that nigga, that audience goes nuts. So anyway, being that close to him and just seeing, like, you know, because I used to go out on tour. I was chill. I was, you know, throwing some jeans and a shirt and a hat. But after like two dates I was like Nah I need to I need to dress a little more Was this before Ballers

55:01Tony Yayo:And all that shit This was before Ballers man Yeah I was gonna ask you How you go from theater From theater to stand up Because theater Ultimately theater is just like Stand up is just like theater It's just a one man act You know what I mean So the transition I was already used to Performing on stage So that Stand up was just right It was like cool I get this same feeling Of the audience energy But it's just by myself I get to go up every night Or whenever I want So that's how that happened But I have been ready to go And like I said With stand-up As you describe certain jokes Within your set You gotta do an act-out You gotta do Like for example For the audience An act-out is When you watch Kevin Hart say Alright, alright, alright And he do his dad And he do all the physical stuff That his dad does Or his friends do That would be an act-out So that's why most most comics a good portion of comedians can do the acting thing because we kind of do the characters within our set anyway.

56:03Tony Yayo:I understand because like in theater you can't make mistakes because I've you've been to any Broadway plays while you was out there? Yeah, yeah. Because I went to with 50 we seen Martin Luther King it was Angela Bassett and Samuel L. Jackson Samuel L. Jackson is one of my favorite actors, right? And it was great but you can't when you're on stage you can't make not one mistake so I understand how the theater it was easy comedy was easy for you. Yeah, but also So even with theater, sometimes you make mistakes, but you got to keep it going. Right? That's my point. I know you guys said you got to look like it's not a mistake.

56:31Tony Yayo:Have you ever seen a Broadway play make a mistake? Me? I haven't. You wouldn't know. Yeah. You wouldn't know. Teach them something. I seen Michael Jackson. I seen Martin Luther King and a couple of other plays. But you wouldn't know if they made a mistake. I mean, if you stop your line or drop your line, I could see it. Nah, but they not going to stop. They going to keep it going. That would be, it's one of those things where those mistakes, like you mentioned, if they're professional enough, there's no way. But that's how people get fired. And he went up there and said, hey, yeah, man, make sure you put the shoes back in the book and in the socks.

57:11And they're going to go ahead. You got it. You're going to let it go, whatever it is. But I'm telling you, there's always somebody in the wings. I remember I did a show. my first my my first TV show and my stand-in first of all he he applied to be my stand-in so for people don't know at home my stand-in is basically somebody's kind of like my same height and built and while I go work on my lines or go get a haircut or something they said the actor stands in my place and they set the lights and the cues and the cameras right so my stand-in he got mad that they asked him to do what he's there to do.

57:49And all I know is that he went off. He was cursing just going off. We took a lunch break. That nigga was gone. It came back. I'm telling you he was gone. And you know especially in the business there's no arguments going on on set like that. Of course. It's just quiet. So you're trying to send me and him doing Oh they ain't doing this. They ain't doing this nigga so right. That's why I'm on tires. That's why I'm on tires. Shut the fuck up with that shit. Because I'm not with this guy. Shut the fuck up.

58:18Tony Yayo:You know what I'm saying? It's etiquette. It's etiquette. You got it. Because what I learned from 50, from my acting coach Wendy, from just being around movie sets is being on time. Not wilding on the set. Not arguing. Not saying I'm going to shoot people and not shot people. Listen, I work with movie people. You don't want to do that, right? I worked on real movie sets with Bruce Willis and people like that. Shout out to Bruce Willis. I love Bruce Willis. He's so gassed up on Matthias. Die Hard is one of my favorite movies. He gassed up on Matthias. Die Hard, but not the movie Murder was in it.

58:52Tony Yayo:Die Hard. He gassed up on Matthias. All the Die Hard's is better than all the movies you did with Murder. Shout out to Bruce Willis. I love you. Some people can't even say they work with Bruce Willis, man. Dude, it's a real thing. Again, with them, because time is money and money is time. Like them suits, they just be in the back and they don't say that. They just, you know, they'll do a little whisper, come back, and somebody, it's always somebody in the wings, man. I'm telling you, it's always somebody gunning for your spot. And there's just no time for that. That's why, again, on Raising Canaan, everybody was cool.

59:25If there was some sort of issue or dispute, we didn't know. Everybody, I'm sure that there's disagreements on creative ideas, but everybody just keep it cool, keep it smooth. And we just tried to have a good time. And it was, at least for me. I think for most of us, it was.

59:40Tony Yayo:For all the aspiring actors out there, because now everybody in the hood want to be actors. They see 50s, the next Scorsese, right? Right? So what advice would you give them? Like, what time? What's the day like on set? Are you on set 6 a.m. to 10 o 'clock? Or like, what's the day on Raising Canaan set? Shoot, man. Well, this is my routine on set. I would probably study... Usually I'll probably study from 12 to 3 a.m. I might get a nap in from 3 to 4, hit the gym 5 to 6, get picked up and on set by 7 or so, and going over the lines, get the haircut, makeup. And all of this is usually done like before 8 o 'clock.

1:00:27You and hair, makeup, whatever they got to do. You might try to get your little breakfast in. And then ultimately what we call this is like hurry up and wait. you be dressed and have your stuff and you just you're in the trailer and they setting up stuff but it is a lot of waiting around but if you a lead you ain't really got too much time to be waiting around you be going over your stuff studying because the last thing you want to do is be on set with somebody like a vet like a Tony or a Samuel L. Jackson and your lines you ain't got your material to get that's why I would lose sleep whatever you know whatever sleep I lost I said man I'll get that back on the weekend, but let me stay up and just make sure, or whatever it is, just make sure I got the material because just no time for that.

1:01:10The last thing you want to be is the guy. They say, all right, all right, cut, cut, cut. Murder, let me talk to you for a second, man. Listen, man, they pull you to the side and, you know. Yeah, glad you said it was an example. Go ahead, go ahead, murder. You're doing a great job for wanting to tell you murder. but your guy, Yeo, Yeo, he's the one. No. What's going on?

1:01:37Tony Yayo:He's the one that we got to get rid of. What's going on? Come on. And that's how I, shout out to our acting coach, Wendy. That's what she told me. She's like, yo, you way better than Yeo. Like we had, we both did the acting. She was like, you way better than Yeo. I'm not worried about her. She was like, yo, you are way better than Yeo. Shout out to Wendy. Shout out to Wendy. We're one of the biggest comedians in the world. He's talking about money and violence. Shout out to Wendy. And diehard is bad than all of Bruce Willis movies. He was on there for 30 seconds, man. Shout out to Wendy. I wouldn't care.

1:02:04Tony Yayo:You don't have to take no acting lessons for that shit, man. Would you care if you on the Emmy nominated show for five seconds, 10 seconds? Who cares? And hopefully Shane Gillis had me on season four. Hopefully, man. It's my best year ever. Shout out to Shane Gillis, Tyus. You gotta do some real acting, man. Shout out to all the real actors. Shout out to Benny Boom, SWAT 2. That's another one on Netflix. SWAT 2 was garbage, man. Well, Money and Balance was garbage. Money and Balance is the truth. The hood know what's up. The hood root for Money and Balance. Talk about your tour. Okay, yeah, basically, people can just follow me at RealLenonBrown or TikTok, TheRealLenonBrown.

1:02:38And I'm doing, dates are coming in, you know, as I'm moving along, so. When the tour starts. We already jump in motion next Tuesday, actually. Next Tuesday, I think it's San Diego and then Detroit, and then we just moving around.

1:02:50Tony Yayo:Shout out to Detroit, San Diego. Yeah, man, so we moving around, and I gotta come back here to New York, man. It's been a minute. New York, love you, you know you gotta do it. New York is great, man. We gonna probably need you back on here again, man. Yeah, man, whatever, man. Let's just do it, man. It's always getting run into y 'all. We can't wait for a talk. Do you have kids since we know about Jukebox? Do you really have kids? No, I don't have any kids. Oh, all right, cool. I thought you had a daughter in real life. No, I love kids, but I ain't got no kids, dude. No, not right now. That's dope, man.

1:03:13Yeah, man. That's dope, man. So we got Uncle Marv back from the dead. It's going to be hard to get away from that Uncle Marv name for a minute, too, man. No, you know what? But as we rattle, I know that it's just, again, it's just one of those things where we felt that probably that way about Fresh Prince and then he messed around, do Ali and then you do some other stuff. That's a fact, that's a fact. That's a fact. Or we talked about this earlier, with Western Snipes in New Jack City. And we thought he looked at Nino, but as people, you know, bro, we figure.

1:03:41Tony Yayo:Good examples, man. That was dope. Good example. So, man, thank you, man. And then we gotta remember, he did so many movies before this. Like, name some. I remember it was Merry X Christmas. Yeah, I did a couple of things. Back to the Good Life. I did some stuff with Kyla Pratt, Jason. We're trying to figure out, like, I'm in the trenches of this. Oh, I got you, man. So it's still early. We still have to break it in. Let me also shout out my podcast, At Killing It Pod, At Killing It Pod with Justin Hyres, BT Kingsley, man. Y 'all be sure to watch and tune in. Very inspirational, man. And we just trying to hear how y 'all got to the millions, how you sell out the theaters, how you become the guy.

1:04:18So thank you, man.

1:04:19Tony Yayo:And you know, it's another thing before you get out of here. I usually ask for the top five, but it's getting so crazy to do that so now I got something where I'm starting the top 10 top 10 comedians from back in the days, the 80s to now I'm going to speed this up because the producer is ready I got you we pay his bills I care I'm going with Richard Pryor I'm going with Eddie I got to go with I got to go with and this is no order Richard, Eddie Chappelle Patrice O 'Neal Paul Mooney The Martin Show alone is just classic Then you know What I will say I got Kevin on the list For how Kevin looks out for his friends I can't be I'm not mad at that I will I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go And this ain't even like just Based on just funny alone Cause I just think there's some other things That's important as you move forward But I think about What Cat got going on Meaning like, even though we may not see him in movies, we may see him in movies, either way, Kat can always go and sell out something if he in the hood somewhere.

1:05:31Like he got the streets like him. But then I think about just off the cuff, funny, I think about Bernie. Shout out to Bernie. I think that might be, I lost track, but.

1:05:45Tony Yayo:I think we was at eight or nine, maybe? Yeah, okay, and then I'ma shout out. Ooh, two more, two more. I like Mike Epps, dude. Mike Epps know how to make something. He know how to get out with that. And then I'm gonna say Chris, man. Chris fed me. He put some money in my pocket. I gotta say, yeah, can't forget Chris Tucker, man. Definitely, man. Definitely, man. Well, definitely. You got the tour coming. You got the tour. Make sure you don't do no bum ass movies like SWAT 2. Listen, he ain't dissing me. You know what I'm saying? Penny Boom. Just make sure you don't do that. Penny Boom. I'll take that little word.

1:06:21Tony Yayo:You got the bright future, my nigga. Money and Valance was in 1K. Money and Valance was in 1K. We are the streets, baby. I'm Netflix. He's 2B. I'm out of here. We on Prime right now. Amazon Prime. Let's go. Money and Valance is the streets. Whoa.

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