The Real Report - Michael "Venom" Page on the pressures of the UFC, the rise from Bellator MMA, Building Community, & top 5 Kung Fu movies

18:08Don't worry about the pressures. Until I got to the UFC and I was like, I understand why people don't perform. Because it just feels like a weight. It feels like an audition. No matter what you've done and what you've proved, that you obviously proved something to be there. You get there and you feel like everyone's now watching you. Like, well. You starting all over again. Yeah, starting all over again. All over. And you get there and it's just like, I remember one of the press conferences I got in there. And I've, in terms of nerves, I've never really gotten nervous. I always have like an anxious feeling of like excitement.

18:44And I was at a press conference and I was just like nervous. I'm like, my heart was just, I've never felt like this before. So you was kind of mad at yourself? Ever. Yeah, but I was just like, I was like, I'm trying to calm myself down, but now I'm worried that people can see that I'm nervous. I'm doing stuff that's not even me. Right, right, right. So then again, even when I perform, like I still perform well, but I still don't feel I've performed the way I know I can. And that's even till now. And I've had some great fights on the UFC and I still don't feel like I've done what I would normally do had I been anywhere else.

19:20Or had I fought this guy just in the gym, people would just be like, you'd see someone get demolished in a very flashy way. But then I get into the UFC and I'm beating people, but just beating people. What do you think?

19:34Tony Yayo:It's too much lights camera action over there? Oh, what do you mean? That is lights camera action. but I'm asking, but you think it's too much of that shit for you? Like, it's like, it's so much of that shit for you? Yeah, it's difficult to kind of pin it. I just, all I was trying to do when I realized it, there's probably about two, three fights in that I realized what's happening. And then I'm just, all I'm trying to do is say, look, you just need to go back to just being you. Forget everything else. Just enjoy it. But it's always difficult. Second, the whole build up is designed to make every fighter anxious.

20:07It's like the whole build up. Like no matter what stage you are in your career, whether you're new to UFC and you're a young buck or you've been there a little while, it always feels like there's pressure, always. Like I said, I already knew I'd be able to beat these guys in the UFC because like I said, we cross train. Before I even got to Bellator, I was sparring guys in the UFC. and I tell you now nobody can come back and say they had a good time sparring me outside so I already knew I was already confident in myself that oh no but I fought this level but it's very different fighting couple coaches teammates to a crowd of people the pressure of the money because the way they do the pay structure I don't do it now but the way they do the pay structure for a lot of fighters is certain amount, half to show up.

21:03So the second you step in the cage, that's your half. And then if you win, you get the other half.

21:07Tony Yayo:What? It's like being a rapper. Yeah, yeah. When we get paid at the back end. Yeah, I'm about to say, that's crazy. So you're trying to say, basically, you get in half when you step in the ring. And if you lose the fight, you don't get your back end. You don't get the rest. No back end. No back end. And this is where there's always been a lot of talk about pay. And for me, even if the pay is low, it should be, give me what you think I'm worth. The second I get it, this is just done. Don't give me the added stress that during the fight, because humans are humans, man. They get the total amount, and they're already spending it in their head.

21:39Tony Yayo:Better believe it. And then someone hits you, and you're wobbling the key. You're like, shit. Now you think about that money. That's too much stress. Bro, we already killed ourselves to get there, and now you want to add extra pressure and extra stress. So wifey, I'm going to give her that shit. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, bro. For that bad game, nigga, yo, I got it with this shit. That shit crazy, we haven't even looked at it. So I believe you got that shit, took it out of your contract. I've had it out from Bellator days. Okay, copy. But you have to get to a certain level of popularity, fame, or success, which is, that is hard.

22:17That's difficult enough. So imagine these guys, there's guys that are, I'm gonna use like, there's a guy called Paddy Pimler. He's big, he's doing really, really well. He's got a great brand. Yeah. You right, you right, you right, you right, you right. I got you. He's a Porsche machine. Nah, to be fair, I'm usually on it. I'm usually on it. I got you, I got you, I got you. Yeah, he's big. And I remember some of his earlier fights where he's selling out stadiums. He was half and half. I mean, the half, the total amount was crap. The total amount was terrible. And you're like, this guy's selling out stadiums.

22:51There's a lot of pressure. And on top of that, he's in the UK. so we get paid in dollars. You got a chance. You got to change the currency on that. Back down to from dollars to power. Yeah, you're already, it's already losing. What's the dollar difference, Eddie?

23:08Tony Yayo:What's the dollar difference right now? I think it's, it's not too bad now, I don't think. Before, it used to be a little crazy. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So imagine, especially from the UK, and I'm sure everyone's going to have their struggles, but I've seen it where a guy, I know one of my teammates, He's studying to be a lawyer. So he comes to the gym to train because he wants to be a fighter. But he's also studying to be a lawyer just in case. So he's fighting, training. I'm mash up after that first session. Then he goes, picks up a book, and he's studying, studying, studying, studying, studying.

23:38And he goes back and we have our second session. And he's training, training, training, training, training. And then he goes, goes home, watch Quick Powering Up. Then he goes out to the clubs to do work security because he needs to make money. This guy was in Bellator. this guy was this other guy was in UFC and they're still having to do extra work that's a lot of stress man like if you get to what you class as the pinnacle of your career which is the UFC this is so big you should just be able to focus on the UFC now these guys are coming back home having to second jobs and this and that and still perform but nobody no one's gonna give them the grace no one's gonna talk about that

24:15Tony Yayo:damn nobody even knows no one knows yeah cause you know when you hit the UFC that's the pinnacle of you know fighting You can sell out the gardens. And that's a balanced sport, man. And it's entertaining. I mean - What I'm saying is it's valid and it's entertaining, right? Very dangerous. So they should definitely be paying these guys and they making the money off this shit, correct? The money is - More than making the money. Because I know this shit damn near took over boxing a little bit, damn near. Yeah, exactly. Damn near. I mean, boxing is entertaining, but when somebody could use they feet, do jiu-jitsu, do striking.

24:48Tony Yayo:That's way more entertaining than just two boxers. And I love boxing. I love the sport too. I love boxing. So for me, it's way more dangerous to me a little bit because of the kicks. The kicks be brutal. So how they fix that? Is they working on fixing that shit? Well, things have slowly progressed, but like it even come out the other days, the UFC, they say like NFL will pay like 52 % or something of the revenues go back to the players. I think soccer is like 37%. But for the UFC specifically, it's like 16%. But then the majority of that goes to the top 5 % of the fighters. So that's the more popular ones.

25:35So they got like 600 fighters on their books. And if most of that is going to... Top five. Let's say the top...

25:44Tony Yayo:20, 30. Then there's only 16%. And there's only 16 % of that. Exactly. So it's like, it's difficult. It's difficult. And I would say like, try not to give some of these guys a hard time because they are putting, they are putting this. So like the guy, I don't know if you've seen recently, he was, he just fought my boy, Izzy, Adesanya, bad boy, style bender, beast. Yeah, Adesanya, love him. He, unfortunately, he lost, but then the guy had a, you know, you can see he was like, very emotional and he had a speech afterwards and he's like two weeks ago I was ready to kill myself. He was just, life was just - Who the guy who won?

26:19The guy who won. He said two weeks ago I was about to commit. Two weeks later he's fighting Adesanya, he wins and he's now catapulted him to like the top five or something.

26:32Tony Yayo:Wow. And he was like ranked 17 or whatever it was before that. But this is the stuff that people are just not seeing. You know what I mean? I'm not sure everyone's gonna have their struggles, But I'm just saying it feels like there's a lot, the UFC can help alleviate some of those struggles. UFC, we got to do better, man. We need to talk to you. We got to do better. We got to do better, man. Now, let me ask you a serious question. A family full of fighters. Mom's a black belt. He can whip your ass. Dad's a black belt. He can whip your ass. You probably got a whole host that's black belt. Now, from you learning martial arts as a child, when did you know it was going to be a career for you?

27:07Tony Yayo:Like, you know, not just a family thing, a career. When did you know? I'd say it was late. Late, late, as in it probably, probably I was 24 when I actually got into MMA. Before that, although I've been winning these world titles, if I looked around me, the people that were successful fighters still didn't really have anything. It was because it wasn't popular enough, so they would open up schools and And from their popularity, they'd open up schools, get students, and that's how they kind of became successful in their own right. I love teaching. I actually enjoy coaching. But in my head, I was like, no, that's not what I want to do for myself, though.

27:53So then I was like, I need to take a risk somewhere. I need to go to boxing or MMA or something different where I can perform and make a living. And I chose to try out MMA, got there and just fell in love with the whole idea of it. I was able, I was coaching at the time, because it's my dad's school, he was like, look, put a little bit aside. It was not much, like 200 pound a month or something, just to allow me to just focus on that and see where you get to. So did that. After the first fight, I was out. That was good. I went crazy viral. But my first fight, I legit got 80 pounds to fight. That was it.

28:38And then second fight is like a hundred pound. So again, it's not something that I feel like I'm gonna make a living from just yet. But at least I know I'm good at this. I'm like, okay, like I'm making my names out there.

28:51Tony Yayo:It ain't what I want, but I'm good at this shit. I'm making some money off of it. But I think it's when I got signed to Bellator when I was like, okay, there's definitely a way for me to make a career. But like I said, the sport I chose is still, there's still a long grind to get to where you need to get to. Right. And even when, like I say, my most viral fight is that knee, my pay was not good. But I went, I'm all over the world now. But you're viral, yeah. I'm viral, but I'm like, I can use that. Definitely. So I think it's at that point where I'm like, no, I know I'm, I'm heading in the right direction.

29:25That kind of like said to me, like, yeah, okay, I can figure it out. Right.

29:29Tony Yayo:So how do you keep the discipline? Because, you know, we're on the road, you know, we eat Flaming Y 'all, we eat creme de lait caviar. You know, we eat - There go this guy with exotic food, man. You hear my man here with exotic food, man. We smoke dunk him around. Talk to him, yeah. Talk to him, yeah. How do you keep the discipline? Because for me, the food is like, you know, I love food. I know Murda. Murda loves bread. He's in shape now. He feel as good. I just had a gut a couple of months ago. So I got the gut now. How the fuck do you keep the discipline, bro? To be fair, it's difficult. I think everybody's different.

30:04You just need to know yourself, how you motivate yourself. For me, I need a goal. I need a target. I need to do something a bit more extreme.

30:13Tony Yayo:Right. So same for me. When I was on a film end of last year, like Jake Gynoho's Roadhouse, Roadhouse 2. Oh yeah, show up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not out yet. It's not, it's gonna be out next year. I believe you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched it, I watched it. Yeah, the first one, yeah, yeah, it's dope. This one's gonna level up again. So I got to be on that, but as you say, you're kind of sat there just hours, and it's just, people would just feed like, you want food? I'm like, I'm not doing nothing, so. Might as well. Might as well. So I understand how easy it is to, but then I know, I knew tomorrow, I think sometimes you can give yourself the grace period, because I enjoy food as well.

30:54But give yourself the grace period and say, okay, cool. I'm going to enjoy myself here. And then as soon as I get to this point here, to this point here, I need to go crazy. But that's just me. I know some of my teammates like to be disciplined all year round. But food is a big part of my culture. Yeah, you Jamaican, right? Yeah, yeah. It's a big part of the culture. Sure, chicken in London. That's what I'm saying. We went to the hook. We went to Central C Block.

31:20Tony Yayo:Central C neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was in a, you know, fancy, spanchy hotel. They ain't had no Jamaican food around there. You know what I mean? You gotta go to the hood sometimes. But the food there is proper. And the thing is I got a mixture. My dad's side is Trinidadian. And my mom's side is Jamaican. Both sides of food is amazing. And again, culture is, it's always sitting down, big family, food, eating, da, da, da. So it's difficult, but I say to myself, enjoy that. Enjoy that side of it. But then you need to make sure you lock in. But you just need to know yourself. what motivates you.

31:55You know what I mean?

31:56Tony Yayo:But you know we all boys do big pots. Yeah, that's it. You know what I mean? Big pots. I feel like if I eat something now, after a certain time, I just make sure I go, alright you definitely got to wake up early and work out. Exactly. I've done that as well. You got to do that. So if you know you ate too much the night before, you got to put that work in in the morning. 100%, but diet is key. Regardless of any of the training, diet is key. That's also going to keep you alive as long as possible, but keep you in shape. Don't annoy you when somebody just start working out. I hate this thing, yeah.

32:30Tony Yayo:I know you want somebody to start hating, Mike. That's the only thing I wanna love. I love you. Mike, you hate it, Mike. You don't have to talk about protein shakes all day.

32:43Uncle Murda:You know what I mean? Get in shape, but come on.

32:45Tony Yayo:People start working out in here. I'm talking about you. I'm talking about you. I'm talking about you. Yo, tell me my best diet for me. Cause I'm tired of this guy with a six pack he bought. Six pack he bought off the road. My God. Nah, you know what? I'd say the key things is what tends to happen for most people is eating late and then obviously a lot of carby foods. That rice and that bread. I told you. When you cut that out, and I'm not saying don't have it, but even down to the portions, one thing I had to do to say trick myself, because when you're trying to eat healthy or portion control, if you put it on a normal plate, it doesn't feel like you've got a meal.

33:29So I decided using smaller plates, because then at least I feel like it's full. Visually I'm looking at it like, okay, it's full. And then I eat it and I actually, I don't even feel like eating anymore, because I feel like I've mentally tricked myself. But if I put it on a normal size plate and I just see a little bit of rice here, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, I'm like, I'm gonna go for a second. You're like, what I'm doing, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But sometimes, again, you gotta know yourself, what motivates you. But late night eating is always the worst. Snacking is...

33:59Tony Yayo:Give me an example of snacking. What? With the chips? Everything you're talking about. Everything you thought about just now. Everything you think here, give me an example. I mean, I'm just gonna shake it. Beat somebody's ass. Everything. Now, but snacking in general, again, even if you're gonna snack, try to do it with like fruits and like stuff that's not just bullshit. Instead of chips, get the fruit. Yeah, yeah, just go get it. And the thing is that I know for the most part, you will have it there. He got the chips, the sour patches. Yeah, everything. And the fruits. All the types of chips.

34:33His kids little, I know you got all that. I don't eat it, the kids eat it. That's good.

34:36Tony Yayo:You see me, I be on the cashews, shit like that, almonds. That's my little snack. Yeah, you definitely do it. He eat a lot of fish too. Yeah, so that's good. So lighter, like, yeah, lighter things that you want definitely always hit. Steaks is good, but again, it's just portion control. I'm not saying don't eat anything. I'm saying enjoy, enjoy eating food, but just be disciplined with time that you eat, because a lot of people eat late, especially if you just come off a show. you're getting back home to the hotel late and it's like, I'm hungry. But you have to be listening to say like, bro, it's not a good time to eat.

35:11Let me just drink a load of water. Cause that's usually fills you up. You just drink loads and loads of water now. And then boom, wake up, eat your breakfast and whatever, whatever, whatever. But yeah, the normal is get home and there's nothing, nothing's open pizza.

35:25Tony Yayo:So no room service off in your black car? Nah. You just got here. No room service. If you do it, send it to murder's room. Don't tip me, Mike. I'm trying to stop. You already do him once in a while, too. Yeah, I do. He had a belly a minute ago. He good. Nah, that's the first thing I said, though. You said, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike said, okay, I said, you focus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what? It's funny. You see it in so many different things. Like, I come in, I'm like, your skin. Like, your skin's glowing smoother. Everything, muscles are like tighter. are like, these little things I'll notice.

36:01Don't hit plus, Mike. You gonna hit plus. It is what it is. It is what it is. It is what it is. He got the battery for what? But not one of these rappers out with something, Mike. I promise you, Mike. He gonna try to do a flying thing. He gonna miss. He gonna do it. Mike don't teach me, nigga. You crazy? Mike don't teach me. You crazy? He gonna try to re-kick a rapper, Ja Rule. He gonna miss.

36:19Tony Yayo:He said Ja Rule. On the plane. On the plane, bro. On the plane. So what's the workout like to kick somebody's ass? Because you're like a walking machine. Like we was gonna call it security. I'm like, what do we need security? I'm like, Mike, you're gonna be ready. Kick a gun out there, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's a lot. It is a lot, it's a lot. Give me a workout, because now you got, shout out to Diamond Gym, you got popularity on Instagram, like the Diamond Gym guys. You got the workout guys just doing all the muscle ups, pull ups, it's popular to be healthy, which is a good thing, you know what I mean?

36:50Tony Yayo:Especially when you're getting older and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my whole thing is, what would you tell me? to work out, would you say do chest one day, do back one day, or would you say calisthenics, pull ups? What would you, what's your workout? It depends on what you're doing. Obviously I have to work out a specific way because there's a job at the end of it, you know what I'm saying? So maybe for yourself, being on stage for hours and running about, you might wanna work out the legs, your knees, make sure you're there good, cause you're jumping up and down, you're doing all this kind of performative thing, you wanna be in shape, look good, back the top off and show everybody, yeah, I'm here, still young.

37:24It just depends on what you want to work on. Canisthenics always makes you look good because it's body weight. But what I like about it is people feel like you have to do weights. You don't have to do weights at all. Like canisthenics is just body weight. And sometimes we end up getting injured because when we're doing weights, it's all like one dimensional. It's all in one direction. Canisthenics is because you're having to stabilize yourself the whole time. You work your smaller muscles and the bigger muscles. And you see some of these guys like big heavy weights. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with it, I'm not against it, but these guys will be trying to lift something and they're struggling, and you get someone that doesn't look like much, and they're just like, just because their body is in sync with themselves.

38:04You know what I mean? So kind of saying it's definitely, if you're just talking about getting in shape, healthy in shape, and there's nothing at the end of it. Boxing's always good, because I think it's just a stress reliever or kickboxing, because you're staying in shape, but also life can be stressful. so hitting pads definitely is good for me again like I said I have to be intentional so we do wrestling jujitsu we do ground and power we do weights we do fitness like endurance short bursts long road running as well like there's there's a lot that has to go into the end result so for me there's a multitude of things that I have to do but if you're just staying in shape just pick something and just stick with it

38:50Tony Yayo:That's what I'm saying, Murr. Like being a UFC fighter is like the hardest job because you don't know what's coming out. Jiu Jitsu, he know how to fight on the floor, which I want you to put Murr in the arm ball for the people. It is God, it is God, man. I want to learn the arm ball, dude. Put Murr up, Murr lay down, arm ball. You need that for the people. I want to see if he can get out. So look, arm ball, I can't get out, but I want him to put you in the arm ball. Like Jiu Jitsu, the arm balls, flying kicks, fucking boxing, it's so much. Kick boxing. It's like three, four fucking elements of fighting, then you got the pressure of the crowd.

39:24Tony Yayo:You know what I mean? UFC, the biggest stage for martial arts. Bro, you know what I'm saying? It's so crazy. It's like so much pressure. Then you got to be in shape. You got to keep weight. You got to diet. The weight is the hardest thing. The weight cup, should I say. Not the weight, the weight cup. like my last fight like I said because of the road housing I went up to UK is more kg so I went up to

39:53106 kgs and I had to get to 77 kgs in 2 months 8 weeks to just cut everything out and that's a lot of weight to drop so yeah

40:07Tony Yayo:that's like 70 pounds you gotta lose yeah damn you had to lose that much Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many weeks? Eight weeks. So why do they say when some fighters do that, it fucks them up? It does. It just depends on how you do it. I've been blessed to kind of understand my body. This one was definitely more difficult because I don't usually, I'd never get to that level. I think the highest I've been before that was about like 94, 95. So it was a lot extra, like 10 kgs extra. So it was a bit more difficult, but I kind of understand my body well enough to know this is what it needs, this is what it doesn't need.

40:44I had a nutritionist as well. So I contact him and like, yo, my weight's not dropping. What could I do? Oh yeah, have this, do that, take this, da-da-da. But yeah, it's difficult.

40:56Tony Yayo:I mean, when you look at guys like LeBron, you know what I'm saying? 41 still fucking dunking like he's 21. Going crazy. So you feel like the nutritionist, the food, the diet and the workouts all as one key key key key like the as youngsters so when i when i first stepped in the game you had the hardest session in the world and the next day i'm good to go again like i feel nothing but as you get older i can have the easiest session in the world and next day i'm like i don't want to go nowhere you know what i mean but that's but i'm still training There was a point where I was still training like a youngster, thinking my body's just going to bounce back.

41:37But if you get, as a youngster, you get into the habit of the recovery side, it's yin and yang. The recovery side is the aggressive side, but then also the relaxed side. Like my wife, she does, she's got her own app. She's a Pilates instructor. I was doing Pilates. I was shaking. Everyone's like, yo, you're a big, big MMA fighter strong. Bro, I was shaking. She's just there just doing that stretch and doing, I'm just looking at me like, you need to do this side as well. And it's going to help. Like your core stability and all that kind of stuff. Ice baths, saunas, all these different things that before I'm like, bro, I'll just wake up and I'm fine and go back to training.

42:17But now when you get to a certain age, but even when you're younger, you should make it as part, it should be a habit just to get into. So when you get older, it's just normal to you. But yeah, when we're young, we just feel like we're just, we're going to be that way forever.

42:30Tony Yayo:Iceman, it's crazy. Yeah, but I said to you, it's almost like a high feeling, bro. You do a sauna, you jump in the icebox, it's a shock. And you know, you relax, you control your breathing, you stay in there for like a minute, minute and a half, two minutes, get out, bro. I just, you just like, you sit down, most relaxed you ever felt. You feel amazing. Just getting over that first initial shock of bah, that cold. Rob Markman, I'm a little bit of a cold shit. Rob Markman, Once you get past that, control. I mean, you get out. Seriously, it's something else. Rob Markman, I know. Rob Markman, I'm gonna try that man.

43:03I don't pick you up.

43:06Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, I'm gonna try that man. I might have to try that man. Rob Markman, So we do something on the real report. We ask every legend who is their top five fighters. Rob Markman, Okay. Rob Markman, Oh shit. I like that one. Rob Markman, Of all time. It could be any era. Rob Markman, Okay, okay, okay. Rob Markman, It don't have to be now. It could be before. Rob Markman, In combat or in combat. or boxing or just MMA or any which way you want okay okay okay so obviously the goal has to be up there Muhammad Ali of course rest in peace yeah rest in peace um he has to be there I think he just changed the game for everybody not just boxing it was for absolutely everybody his character personality charisma and obviously the fighting style um Jon Jones I'm going to give it to him for MMA because I feel like as you mentioned MMA is such a difficult sport to be great at because there's so many different ways for you to lose the fact that he's done it he hasn't lost as much as they say he's got a loss on his record that was a disqualification I still feel to this day they need to take that off because that was some bullshit so you'd have to give it to him the fact that even now he could still be going similar to LeBron James and what you're saying like he's getting older and still just whooping people.

44:24Tony Yayo:Like it's nothing. So you gotta give him his respect. Penel Whitaker for me, was just somebody that I just, and rest in peace again, cause that was a crazy one. Mr. Peace legend, yup. That was somebody that again, I enjoy similar styles to myself that love to express themselves in unique ways. I feel like I'm the kind of person, if everybody's getting in that direction, I just kinda wanna see what's happening over here just to just explore. And he seemed like that guy. You can watch him. I can watch him for hours. Weird enough, yeah, yeah. Weird enough, I'm going to stay with boxing again and say Emmanuel Augustus.

45:04Because again, I was the drunken master, drunken boxing. Just something unique. And it's not like, okay, he has the best record. It has nothing to be, but it's his style, what he did. Even I think to this day, Mayweather says that's his hardest fight. which says something about what he brought to his game. Demetrius Johnson for me, again, if I go back to MMA, some people underestimate, not underestimate, kind of overlook the smaller guys, but he is the most well-rounded athlete in MMA. He could do everything. I had the privilege of kind of training with him and I was like, I understand how you, why you're so dangerous.

45:47There's little things that he did that I'm like, I don't even think the way he thinks to how he capitalizes on every single thing to hit you again, hit you again, hit you again. There's normally kind of pockets where people know that it's dangerous, where he's dangerous like right the way through. You know what I mean? It was crazy. So I'll say him.

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48:38Uncle Murda:$11.99 a month, your first year. Terms apply on covered repairs. And in terms of, again, I'm going to go back to boxing. I think boxing's got the most history. In terms of boxing, you have to give it to Mayweather in terms of defensively and offensively. You know, when he was coming up the ranks and he's a lighter weight, fighting people more naturally his weight, he's knocking everybody out. And then he gets on. He goes up in weight categories. It's obviously harder to knock people out. that's heavy, that's naturally heavier than you. But then also defensively, you got to be careful because these guys hit harder than you.

49:15But then he adjusted it with his team, his dad, his uncle, and he became the most defensive genius in the game. So yeah, you have to give it to him. In terms of if you had to write a list on offensive boxing, on defensive boxing, you could probably just use him and you'd be good.

49:34Tony Yayo:Let me ask you a question. Would you fight like a Mayweather, like a McGregor fight? Oh yeah, 100%. It seems like you love boxing too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a combat fan. Yeah. If it's combat, remember I did bare knuckle as well. I did bare knuckle. I went over to - Oh man, I know you did that. Yeah, I did jujitsu. I did a jujitsu competition. I did a kickboxing competition. I boxed 2 and 0 boxing. You will box one of these guys out here for some of that money. 100%. I did. I like combat. Got you. If you're telling me you're going to be fighting someone, then I'm good to go. Just tell me what the rules are.

50:08I'm there, I'm there. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Like anything combat wise.

50:14Tony Yayo:You knock out Jake Paul too? Oh, for fun. Yeah, definitely too. For fun, for fun. Set it up, Jake. Yeah, for entertainment. Jake Paul, make the money back. You see that one, no kicking this time. I'm just saying, kicking this over for you too. Yeah. I respect what he's doing. Not even just on the fact that he's from being a YouTuber to kind of just compete and then having all these eyes but also what he's doing for other fighters the same thing i'm saying about uh people not gifting the fighters the the respect and the money that they deserve he's out there like i'll do it myself he's doing now with this mvp show paying people right the women shows that he's got going like he's doing he's pushing it the way it should have been pushed for a long time no i agree i love what he's doing yeah i feel like I think coming up watching Mike Tyson and Holyfield, we just never looked at him as like, he's a U2 fighter.

51:09Tony Yayo:Rob Markman Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rob Markman So now it's like what he's doing is brilliant. It's like it's more, is it - Rob Markman It's more entertainment. Rob Markman It's more entertainment. Rob Markman But do you feel like marketing is taking over the sport, brother? Rob Markman I think marketing is taking over every industry. Rob Markman Yeah. Rob Markman If he decided to go and say, I'm going to do a golf competition, everyone's watching him. Same way they're watching him boxing. He just, he just was, he figured out a way to get eyes on him. And he's like, okay, anytime, if I jump into over here, those same eyes are going to watch me.

51:36And it's a younger generation. These guys are avid fans from young. So like these guys are YouTube, like just stuck on YouTube watching everything this man does. So no matter where he goes.

51:48Tony Yayo:Oh yeah, I watch all his fights. I'm not going to say I don't watch him. Yeah, yeah. Like Mayweather and Tyson's both be fighting. I'm not watching that. What do you think about that? Oh, sorry. I don't even know why I didn't add Tyson. and that's my bad, I feel, I disrespected the man. Brooklyn. Come on, man, I disrespected the man, I apologize. Tyson is 100 % up there. Yeah, Tyson's on the list. Supposed to fight Mayweather. Is that right? I don't think that fight is really happening. Oh, it's not happening. Yeah, I think they changed it. No, it's changed to Pacquiao. Pacquiao, yeah, you're right.

52:13Oh, Mayweather and Pacquiao. Oh, that's great, that's great. That one's more relevant. So when it's things like that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

52:19Tony Yayo:I mean, after Tyson with Jake Paul, we, you know. Yeah, we there. I don't like seeing, I didn't really want to watch that fight Only because I don't want a picture of Jake Paul standing over Mike Tyson. I just don't want to see it. And just in case, regardless, he's Mike Tyson. He's just older now. I'm not saying if prime Mike Tyson could just look at Jake Paul and Jake Paul would fall over. But right now it's not the same. So we kind of lose ourselves in the, we're kind of stuck in time. We see the knockouts that we used to see of Mike Tyson and the name is there. So when I ask the same guy, it's not the same.

52:58Tony Yayo:I was smoking with him in Vegas and he took my joint and didn't pass it back. And I didn't even want to ask him for it. I'm like, this is Spike Taysen, man. So every time I'm in a room, I've been around him a couple of times and been a little intimidated. Yeah, he's got a certain presence. Yeah, but like you say, you're stuck with what you know of this guy, but yeah, like stuff like that. I just wouldn't want to see. I don't even want to ask him back for that shit. Keep it. We talking about all this fight in the gym. Let's talk about the fight you have outside the gym with your foundations that you're doing and the stuff you're doing for kids and the basic things you're doing for the community.

53:37Yeah, so like the family business is, we got SEN schools called Renaissance. And kids that have eating disorders, kids that have autism or like just difficulty learning, We build and design schools that cater for exactly that. But it's so crazy. I went to one of the schools that we have in Birmingham. See how they go there, see how they get along, speak to the kids. I did a little martial arts session for them as well. But I'm going through the school and I'm like, yo, this school would have helped me. Because of the way they construct the room and how they construct the school, it allows for no matter what level of learning that you are at to cope.

54:28So for example if you're in a science lab they'll have a window with the kids doing the actual science like whatever it is they're doing experiments on. At the window there's a table there for people to watch so the other kids can watch what's going on and observe take notes. If you don't want if that's because again people forget like we don't teach kids emotional control and when you're overwhelmed whatever it is that kind of overwhelms kids we don't give them a way out everything is in the same way like lines of classes looking at the front and we everyone I've got ADHD myself trying to stay focused is difficult so if that's not keeping your attention you can go to it's a circular table in the middle of the room you can go to the circular table and converse.

55:21And now I don't want to sit there and watch because I'm not doing. But me and you can talk about, oh yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Like, okay, yeah, yeah. And then if this is too overstimulating, there's a bench facing the window outside, you can go there. So at any stage, wherever you are at, there's a place for you to go in one classroom. And then you get to that, like the window, the bench at the back, you're like, I just want to be by myself. You're just doing work for yourself. if that is still overstimulating there's we have dark rooms so the kids can just go and it's sensory rooms so you go in there it's dark and there's like this will be like lit up and there's stuff that they can play with just to calm yourself down

56:05Tony Yayo:you know what I mean and then and the thing is no teacher will ever tell you you can't leave you can leave anytime you want so you don't feel restricted yeah it doesn't feel like a jail sentence it doesn't feel like exactly What's the ages with this? So he goes, right, it's from primary school. So I guess I've got the different schools system that you have right the way up to the end of high school, going into college. All right, go, go. So, and then we're just building and just opening up more schools. I think we just got permission for three more schools. And then we got looking at another one as well.

56:38So that'll make it about 10 schools. So we're just building. We're just building, we're just building.

56:42Tony Yayo:No, that's crazy that you said that, because like us putting our kids in school, You know, spells, it's time schedule, you're overwhelmed, you go in class, you got to go to this class. And a lot of people, you know, teach their kids in school. They just keep teaching them at home because, you know, they're teaching them what they want to learn as far as business or anything creative or art. Like what I like what you just said is you can go anywhere you want. There's no pressure. There's no pressure. As long as we know where you're going, so it's like overstimulated like, I want to leave. Yeah, no problem, here you go.

57:15Where you gonna go to the darkroom? Do your thing. There's a farm, like a mini farm as well. One thing that, especially kids from where we would come from, like certain black parents ain't having pets in their house. So you don't ever get like, it's something, something so yeah, bro, something. I hate you, that's why I got dogs now.

57:36Tony Yayo:I made some money, got my dog. Love you, mom.

57:39Uncle Murda:Love my mom's stuff. That's why I got dogs there. It's true though, you're true. But you don't realize how relaxing having a pet is or how much you learn about taking care of something else other than yourself. So what you learn from that thing. So having a farm and a space for them to go and see ducks, fish, goats, chickens, these kinds of things that interact with animals that they would never have the opportunity at their house, that's where they're getting there. So we're just trying to build that because I feel like it has to start from there because it feels like the world's going crazy right now.

58:16But we need to try and educate these guys properly. For me, based on the school system that I had, and I spoke about my wife, I want to homeschool the kids. But now that I'm working in the schools, I'm like, I would send my kids to the school.

58:29Tony Yayo:Got you. Okay. Like, you don't have to have anything. I would send my kids to a school that caters for all of these things. You know what I mean? But yeah, like, that's what we're doing on that side. It's important. Well, we ready for this arm bar? You ready? He got to do it on me. I want to see him do it on you. What? Take your chains off. I almost got knocked out by a fucking - I got too much shit going. Take the J-Rio. He took all his muscles. I want to see him do it on you. Let him put you in on - We got to get you in shape. Let me put you in on - This is part of the shape. We're going to do some training at some point.

59:04Some bit you in shape. We got to get you in shape, man. You scared. Look, he scared to get bit by a dog.

59:10Tony Yayo:He scared to get put in the arm bar. He took all this Brooklyn tough shit. You saw him get bit by a dog, man. I had the suit on. Oh, yeah. Was it your dog? You're training your dog? No. It was just a dog I wanted to buy. As soon as the dog jumped on this nigga, he told the Duke to get it all. Yo, listen. I'm not sore. I'm twins. Michael Page Venom is gonna put me in a light elbow. Oh, shit. Let's go. I'll do something. I'll show you something. Just take these. Just really choke. You choked that nigga, Mike. Look at this nigga. Just calm down. I'm on the Adams apple. Ah, shit. I didn't act like this.

59:50Tony Yayo:Yeah, because he talk too much shit. Yeah, yeah. Go for that nigga. Fuck you. No, Murk, that shit was on the Adams. It wasn't no regular choke. It wasn't? Feel. All right, all right. No, no. Take that back up. Back up. Come on, man. You take me to the easy. That shit was talking about. That shit was talking about. This punk ass nigga gonna take that shit, man. I'm kidding, bro. Come on, listen. See, that's what they traded him. You just whispered in his ear. Take it easy. Take it easy on you. What the fuck was that? That's what that traded him do. This punk ass nigga ain't ready to trade him. Yo, listen, man.

1:00:24Tony Yayo:I'm not taking no two more of the punks. I'm gonna fly a knee, kick them glasses off your face and them chains, boy. I ain't with none of that shit. He talking about take it easy, me, you know, whispered in his ear. That shit still hurt. Man could kill with his hands, brother. What are you talking about here? That's good for him, man. That's good for him, man. That's good for him, man. Live from London, man. Anything you want to tell us? You know what you got going on? What's coming up next, man? What's coming up next, man? What you got? I'm waiting for opponents to actually say yes to me. Stop being scared, yo.

1:00:58Stop being scared. Stop dumping that smoke. Stop dumping that smoke, man. You guys, when you get back to the UK, my restaurant, Ixchel. It's a Mexican restaurant.

1:01:07Tony Yayo:Oh, Ixchel definitely. Ixchel, yeah. You guys got to come through to that. We're doing so much things. I got the film company in which, this is why I was out in LA the other day. I remember I said to you, you guys might have been out there at the same time. I was out in LA because the first film that we produced called Wait just got nominated for a Beverly Hills Award. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what you're talking about, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're doing work on that side. we might be doing a film in Costa Rica, our first feature film in Costa Rica soon as well. So the film production company is called ITM In The Moment Productions.

1:01:44We're trying to bring you in the moment.

1:01:45Tony Yayo:So you ain't just knocking motherfuckers out. You actually playing film and all type. Everything, everything. I got you, I got you. I tried to get my hands in different pies. You have to, like I said, this doesn't last forever. It doesn't necessarily pay well, but it doesn't last forever as well. Right, right, right. So again, for me, it's like, you give me the spotlight and then I'll go get the work. I got a star. Yeah, I'll go get the work done myself. I don't need anybody. We just put the work in. Definitely. How was that experience on set with Roadside 2? I seen the first one. Oh, listen, the first, it was difficult.

1:02:18Like in a different way, it was draining. Because I'm not doing it, my body's so used to being active. Yeah, you on set for hours. And I'm on set for hours, and this is what I'm doing. Like, it was weird. There's like weird endurance, but in a very different way. like just being on set. Cause remember we spoke with Scott Budnick. And he said, we got to get you in the next film as well. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready, kick murder, kick murder. He not ready here, Mike. He not ready. He knocked me out.

1:02:48Tony Yayo:Fuck that. 50th Street Fighter, I'm ready. Yeah, for real, for real. Big up that one. I'm the 50th Street Fighter. That was super fire right there. Yeah, I haven't seen it. You watched it yet? Nah, it ain't come out yet. It comes out, I believe, in a couple of months or maybe October. I think October. I think October. Oh, okay. Oh, it's okay. I just ordered a promotion for it. So I thought it was coming soon. So yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a beef jockey company. Oh, shit, pause. Snap, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pause that. You can't pause everything. You got to pause it. You got to pause it. It's called Snap Down Snacks.

1:03:18Blaine Cam and Maze. Beef jerky is good though, pause.

1:03:23Tony Yayo:Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta say. Beef jerky is good, pause. I bought beef jerky from the store, pause. That's what it is seven days. He got a B-Jerky, oh boy. He's got a B-Jerky company, Paul. That's bad. Yeah, Snapdown Snacks. All right, that's fine. So you can get that at snapdownsnacks.com. So we're doing stuff with that. I'm involved in football. There's a lot going on. Staying busy, staying busy. Staying busy, but the main things is the schools. Like I said, you go help the kids first. Definitely. And then give them opportunities like the football, like film, acting, all that kind of stuff.

1:03:59but it starts with getting them right at school, getting their mental right at school, SCN schools.

1:04:06Tony Yayo:You even teach them about diet in that school too. No, exactly that. No, but that's what I'm saying, because we got a diet.

1:04:13Uncle Murda:I didn't even think about that nigga. I'm broke. I ain't even, fuck about this.

1:04:20Tony Yayo:Fucking broke, sniped off of me, bro. Good one, mate. Good one. Yeah, that's it, man. We're working, we're working. That's dope, man. in the restaurant again? Cause I got a food show I'm doing. So I'm gonna come out there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely, yeah. I'm gonna come out there and do that. I got a food show coming. And um. What's the name of the restaurant you said? I-X-C-H-E-L. Ixchel. It's a Mexican god, moon god. Oh, that'd be damn good. That's crazy. Fire. And you got all kinds of stuff. I'll be coming to fight y 'all fighters. Stop being scared about that. Stop ducking that smoke.

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