The Real Report - Millyz on Jadakiss co-sign, Eminem inspiration, & almost being ABDUCTED in Haiti for $6,000

13 Apr 2026 · 1 h 30 min · 41 chapters

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In short

Millz (Boston/Cambridge rapper) discusses his Jadakiss co-sign, his shift toward melodic singing on his EP Rhythm and Pain (R&P), his independent career path, and a dramatic Haiti trip involving alleged extortion/kidnapping risk for $6,000.

Guest backgrounds

The episode is hosted by Turbulence Tony and “Lynn Jet Lenny” (Rob Markman is the interviewer/host voice). Millz is the main guest. No other guests are featured in the conversation segment.

Key claims

  • Jadakiss co-sign led to major street validation across Boston/New York/Connecticut; Millz says it became real business with “breaking bread” multiple times.
  • He’s an “all-around artist” and believes music is spiritual; he chose melodic records despite fans expecting only bars.
  • He went independent “by default” after labels didn’t see it, then says his numbers proved it (checks like $25k, $40k–$50k).
  • In Haiti, he claims people surrounded their truck and demanded $6,000 American to leave; he later heard “people getting their body snatched.”

Notable examples

  • Meeting Jadakiss in the Bronx while Kiss was dropping someone to a halfway house.
  • Viral freestyles driving streaming; London as a top market.
  • “Risk Takers” (posse cut, no hook) reaching ~20M streams without money.
  • Haiti: club incident, multiple SUVs with sticks, escape back to Hotel Kawibe at high speed.

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Meeting Jadakiss: The Cosign

4:22 to 6:30

Millyz shares how he met Jadakiss and received his cosign.

“Rob Markman, Yo I appreciate you man coming through man.”

Boston's Rap Scene and Being Unique

6:30 to 8:12

Millyz discusses the challenges of coming out of Boston's rap scene.

“Rob Markman, Yeah, no, it was actual business done.”

R&B Influences and New EP

8:12 to 10:15

Millyz talks about his new EP and blending rap with singing.

“And then like I said, you get fucking - Rob Markman, The bars were stamped.”

Validation Through Freestyles

10:15 to 12:10

Millyz discusses the importance of skill in New York rap culture.

“It's no different than New York, it's a big city, y 'all love y 'all teams.”

Embracing Spirituality in Music

12:10 to 14:00

Millyz shares his spiritual approach to creating music.

“Rob Markman You gotta think about this though.”

Embracing Musical Evolution

14:00 to 15:00

Millyz discusses his transition into singing and the spiritual aspect of music.

“You ain't worried about all this new project going with the whole singing shit.”

The Drive Behind Rapping

15:00 to 16:00

Millyz shares his early inspirations and the motivation that fuels his rapping career.

“But yeah, I'm in this era right now, trying to show people in my all around artist.”

Studio Habits and Cypher Experiences

16:00 to 17:20

Discussing studio practices and experiences in rap cyphers, Millyz reflects on his creative process.

“Even though I got lost in doing other shit for a while, I always knew like rap was my shit.”

Balancing Energy in Social Settings

17:20 to 18:20

Millyz talks about the importance of having women around to balance energy when socializing.

“Me, I'm just in that shit and they're just telling me, yo, if somebody don't show up, you could be a replacement.”

Shifting Themes in Music

18:20 to 19:50

Millyz explains his intent to explore love and heartbreak through music instead of street themes.

“I just think, you know, bro, I came from standing on the same street for fucking 10 years, just surrounding by dudes, man, forever.”
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The Journey to Independence in Music

19:50 to 22:00

A discussion on choosing the independent route over major labels and the financial benefits that followed.

“I'm just letting you, don't think you broke my heart.”

Collaborations and Their Impact

22:00 to 23:20

Millyz reflects on significant collaborations that gained traction and recognition in his career.

“And by the time I dropped the tape, I started catching motion in 2021.”

Insights on Leaf Ward and Albie Al

23:20 to 26:30

Millyz shares thoughts on fellow artists Leaf Ward and Albie Al and their contributions to his music.

“It's four and a half minutes and the shit is 20 million streams away from gold with no money put into it.”

Adventures in Haiti: A Cautionary Tale

26:30 to 28:01

Millyz recounts his experience traveling to Haiti and the challenges faced upon arrival.

“Rob Markman, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Brooklyn, Philly.”

First Impressions of Haiti's Airport

28:01 to 29:09

Discover the chaotic atmosphere of Port-au-Prince's airport and initial experiences in Haiti.

“Man, that's the most aggressive airport.”

Arrival at the Hotel and Club Adventures

29:10 to 30:24

Learn about the transition from chaos to paradise at the hotel and the vibrant nightlife in Haiti.

“But once you're in there, that shit is paradise.”

Confrontation and Fear in the Club

30:25 to 34:08

Experience the tension of a potential kidnapping scenario outside a club in Haiti.

“I know you ain't putting up no Bitcoins.”

Escaping Danger and Insights on Haiti

34:09 to 38:15

Follow the story of a dangerous escape from a hostile situation and reflections on Haiti's beauty and challenges.

“I don't want to say pressing because I feel like they was showing love.”

Historical Context and Haitian Resilience

38:16 to 39:59

Understand the historical significance of Haiti and its struggle for independence and resilience.

“Now, the next day, they tell me, yeah, people's getting their body snatched out here.”

Strict Upbringing and Cultural Identity

42:00 to 46:52

Exploring the challenges and strictness of growing up in a Haitian household.

“Rob Markman, Back in the days when niggas was getting like Gumbies and like parts and all that shit.”

Cultural Connections and Travel

46:52 to 50:48

Discussion about travel experiences and cultural connections within various communities.

“Niggas used to joke on me, beans and rice every day, chicken.”

The Music Industry and Creative Process

50:48 to 55:16

Insight into the music industry, the importance of consistency, and the creative process of artists.

“But it's a town that's all Dominicans type shit.”

The Nature of Protection and Loyalty

55:16 to 56:00

Discussion on loyalty, protection in relationships, and the realities of street life.

“Rob Markman, this guy helped 50 pick many, man.”

The Dynamics of Protection in the Rap Scene

56:00 to 56:55

Exploration of loyalty and protection among artists in the rap industry.

“If we all three got the pistol, who's holding who down?”

Handling Hate and Social Media Criticism

56:55 to 58:46

Discussion on how artists cope with negative comments and social media backlash.

“That's why I be with all girls too now, man.”

The Importance of Authenticity in Music

58:46 to 1:00:00

Analyzing the relevance of lyrical depth and authenticity in today's music landscape.

“People terrified to post a picture sometimes, you know what I mean?”

Touring with Eminem: A Unique Experience

1:00:00 to 1:02:18

Firsthand accounts of the excitement and challenges of touring with Eminem.

“Cause that wasn't, that was like Eminem's such a rapper, that's a damn near double entendre cause it was free Ayo, but then it could also just be taken as like free Ayo.”

The Impact of Partnership with Eminem and Dr. Dre

1:02:18 to 1:04:30

Insights on the significance of signing with Eminem and Dr. Dre in an artist's career.

“Rob Markman, Wait, so when y 'all did that?”

Biggie's Influence on Hip-Hop Storytelling

1:04:30 to 1:07:35

Discussion on Biggie's lyrical style and its impact on hip-hop storytelling.

“Like niggas, and he's playing in the club.”

The Pressure of Live Performances and Freestyling

1:07:35 to 1:10:01

Reflections on the intensity and adrenaline of performing live and freestyling.

“Everything to gain embedded in his brain.”

The Pressure of Live Freestyle Performances

1:10:01 to 1:11:40

Hear insights about the adrenaline rush and pressure of live performances in hip-hop.

“Like that shit live in front of the world.”

Memorable Moments with Sway

1:11:41 to 1:13:20

Discover a memorable encounter with Sway during a live interview and his commitment to hip-hop.

“We came in there and we was double booked with the Jonas Brothers, was booked for Jonas Brothers, right?”

Chris Lighty and the Hip-Hop Dream Team

1:13:21 to 1:16:40

Learn about Chris Lighty's influence in the hip-hop industry and how he facilitated major deals.

“Nas, Biggie, Mace, everybody freestyled on there.”

The Evolution of the Music Industry

1:16:41 to 1:20:00

Explore how the music industry has changed over the years, from the DVD era to modern social media.

“He was cool with Mike Lighty at the time.”

Fashion and Wealth in Hip-Hop

1:20:01 to 1:23:20

Discuss the relationship between fashion, wealth, and the perception of success in hip-hop.

“Him and Leo had a real dope relationship.”

The Benefits of Being a Rapper

1:23:21 to 1:24:00

Delve into the perks of being a rapper, including networking and receiving free items.

“I'm more of like, I like the watches now.”

The Value of Connections Over Jewelry

1:24:00 to 1:25:59

Explore the balance between material wealth and the value of networking in the rap industry.

“Yeah, but what I'm saying is I could get a chain and might lose 50 ,000.”

Experiencing Fame: The Good and Bad

1:26:00 to 1:28:20

Delve into the paradox of fame and the unique experiences it brings to rappers.

“Like being in Morocco, once we Rob Markman, we had a four seasons.”

The Global Love for Hip Hop

1:28:21 to 1:30:45

Understand how hip hop is embraced globally and remains timeless in various cultures.

“Like, motherfuckers, the niggas that got five on it, them niggas get bread.”

Lessons from Fame and Personal Growth

1:30:46 to 1:33:19

Discuss the transformative experiences from fame and the growth it catalyzes in artists.

“So for me, I always was humble and then, nigga, picture you being in a party with Jim Carrey, nigga.”

Influence of New Generations in Music

1:33:20 to 1:35:37

Explore the impact of emerging artists and the importance of staying connected to new music.

“Like I said, Murda put me on the Leaf Ward.”
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4:06Tony Yayo:Yeah, it's the motherfucking real report with Turbulence Tony and it's the boy Lynn Jet Lenny. And tell who the fuck you are, Boston's fucking king right now. Oh, yeah, man. Cambridge Finest, man. CMB Blanco, man. Millie. You know the vibe, man. Rob Markman, make some noise for Millie's man. Rob Markman, make some noise for Millie's man. You know who it is man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rob Markman, Yo I appreciate you man coming through man. Rob Markman, I appreciate y 'all man. Rob Markman, One thing, you got the biggest cosign from one of the best rappers on the planet. Jadakiss, and that like gave you the ultimate respect.

4:38Tony Yayo:You could spit also, you one of the best. Rob Markman, Say that to my brother Kiss. Rob Markman, You know when you get a cosign from a n*** like Kiss, I felt like the whole streets loved you after that. Like from Boston to New York, Connecticut. Talk about that. How did you meet Kiss and how did all that happen? Man, I met Kiss. So my manager at the time was a guy named Sefri. He started N1 mixtapes and shit like that. Yeah, I remember that. And he saw a vision in me. And he had family. Like his wife's Cape Verdean. So he knew shit about the area and Mass and Boston and shit like that. And he brought me out to New York.

5:12And I was trying to get a feature for a song. I had a song called The Plug at the time. And he was going through his Rolodex of rappers. He went from Raekwon to a few different rappers. And then he was like, you know who I know? I know Jadakiss. I'm like, yo, no, no. Fuck it, Jadakiss. So we in the Bronx at the time. And he's like, let me call him. Let me just see how it go. He's just calling through his phone to K 'Nex. He called, KISS picked up. Yo, Free, what's up? He's like, Free's like, yo, I'm in the Bronx right now. And KISS like, yo, I'm in the Bronx. I just picked up my man Kay Rosewood and I got to drop him to the halfway house.

5:50This is the day Kiss right hand man got out. So he had to take him to the halfway house in the Bronx. So it just happened like through God that when Kiss is calling him, we in the same neighborhood in the Bronx. So they pulled up 10 minutes later, met me, heard my shit, and it was kind of on from there. And then, you know, I was just rocking with him like a regular relationship with Icepick Jay, who passed on. Rob Markman, I said, I can sing and do a little more than rap and then he really brought it to the table like, no, Kiss, you need to take him serious and shit. And I just grinded after that with that stamp.

6:27That's all I needed was the stamp just to move around. Rob Markman, I be wondering, did you sign the Kiss or was it more of a stamp of homie though? Was it actual business done? Rob Markman, Yeah, no, it was actual business done. Rob Markman, Okay, copy, copy. Rob Markman, We broke bread multiple times for sure. Rob Markman, That's dope. Rob Markman, That's dope. Rob Markman, That's dope.

6:45Tony Yayo:It's hard coming out of Boston because we was talking earlier about, what is it, Made Men and Benzino back in the days. That was more like the biggest thing we knew from Boston at that time. And it's like, right now you, you just like - Rob Markman Yeah, well I came in on some Massachusetts shit. So I'm born in Boston, but I'm raised in Cambridge. It's right across the bridge. Rob Markman Yeah, yeah, I know about Cambridge. Rob Markman Yeah. Rob Markman And so when I came in, that was kind of my philosophy. Like, yo, we got to utilize the whole Massachusetts as a whole. We got to use the Lawrence.

7:12When I'm pulling up, I'm pulling up with the Dominicans from Lawrence. We coming with motherfuckers from, you know, Mattapan. We coming with people from Brockton, just utilizing the whole mass type shit. So I feel like that's one of the things that propelled me out there too. You know what I mean?

7:30Tony Yayo:Talk about this new EP you got on right now, man. Man, Rhythm and Pain, R &P. You know, I be singing this shit. I just wanted to be on my John B shit real quick. So you singing on this whole project right here? Yeah, all melodic. Oh shit. All melodic, man. Because I've been having records where it's like I rap and then I sing. I got singing records that was doing millions, but I think because my freestyles that went so viral, people just kept putting me in that box like, yo, you just a rapper. But I'm like, nah, I'm an all around artist. My streaming shit is doing just as good as it would have if I dropped a rap album right now off the melodics.

8:05So I'm very ecstatic and I feel amazing about that.

8:09Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Oh shit. Rob Markman, Definitely. Because people know you for the bars, of course. And then like I said, you get fucking - Rob Markman, The bars were stamped. Like coming through New York and even having that cosign from Kiss, I felt extra pressure. Like I got to show motherfuckers. Rob Markman, Definitely. Rob Markman, I'm nice. But now I just want to show the world - Rob Markman, Sorry Stats and got you on the project. And we got a video. Rob Markman, Nah, that was amazing. Rob Markman, I might drop that music in there too, man. Rob Markman, And I don't know how none of my music gets into mass state prisons, but that was one of the shits.

8:35Cause murder shit hit the tablet fast man. And that's one of the joints they have. He got the real plug. He got some other shit going on. My distro can't fix it. Shelf to Empire. Yo Ghazi I'm on Empire Publishing too man. I need my shit in the joint like you have for murders. Cause this shit was up in a week. Man that's one of the ones too man. How is he on Empire?

8:57Tony Yayo:Cause I hear you get a lot of bags. Well I'm on, I'm on, yeah. I'm on they publishing side, but yeah I fuck with Ghazi. That's my man. Shelf to Ghazi. Hell yeah. Gazi sturdy. Rob Markman No, that's a fact, man. Rob Markman That was lit to be on your project though, bro. Rob Markman Yeah, that's a fact. Rob Markman I definitely came up watching both of y 'all. Rob Markman Yeah, I appreciate that, bro. Rob Markman Yeah, you one of the ones that like, you got the shock factor to all your shit. Even you with the punchlines with the G-Unit mixtapes, you was always looking for - Rob Markman You always have one.

9:22Rob Markman Not punchlines, but like haymakers and shit. Rob Markman Yeah. Rob Markman You know what I mean? Rob Markman You coming with them shits - Rob Markman Yeah, but - Rob Markman And that kind of influenced my rap style in the sense of like, all right, I'm going to say a couple of shits and then I'm going to give you a haymaker, something that's shocking. You can't just be giving them, you know what I mean? Jab, jab, jab. You got a haymaker.

9:37Tony Yayo:Listen, the mixtape days, like I tell every New York artist, you got New York, you got some spots upstate, you got CT, shout out to CT, always push G-Unit, and then you got Boston. I always love Boston. Y 'all got the beautiful Cape Verdean women out there, shout to them. Know that. What the hell you know about that? But shout to all my Africans out there. It's just Boston just feel like, I don't know, when we came there, it was just always love. Remember we had the, it was one mixtape I think, we had the Celtic, we used to do the show, we came out with the Celtic shit on, it was just crazy. You gotta find that picture.

10:08Tony Yayo:Classic, classic. Yeah, I find that. You gotta find, somebody find that picture man, I need that picture man. Yeah, cause Boston reminds me of New York. I'mma throw that up. It's no different than New York, it's a big city, y 'all love y 'all teams. Yeah, nah it's different though. It's different in the sense like, we proud, like sports come first, in Massachusetts in general, when you're a kid, they're going to be telling you in fourth grade and shit like, you know, the Red Sox is in the chip tonight. Y 'all got the Celtics, the Patriots, the Red Sox. Y 'all like a big sports town. We really come from sports culture.

10:39If you in mass, you have to be, you kind of weird if you not into sports culture in mass. That's what our shit is based on. I feel like New York is kind of based on sports, but I feel entertainment overrides sports a little bit. I know the Knicks is the biggest shit in the world and the Yankees and shit, but y 'all got so much big artists that came from here. You know what I mean? All the way from Hov to 50 to Frank Sinatra, right? He from here, right?

11:04Tony Yayo:Yeah, Frank Sinatra, DMX. Nah, of course. You know, the lineage is crazy. Yeah. It don't stop. The list goes on and on. How you be feeling when your freestyles go viral like the academics post? Do you feel like, I'm getting my respect, man? Because it be hard everybody be feeling like, oh, he can't talk that shit all. You know, the complexity, they be like, he ain't talking that shit like that. But then when you see the streets do embrace you, how that shit be feeling, man? Man, that shit felt good. Like, you know, I really, I think New York is one of the last places where you still got to lead with skill.

11:36People still respect bars from the OGs to even the young drill rappers. You'd be surprised. The K-Flox generation, like, they still give it up for bars. Like, I still meet little young drill rappers and dudes, kids that's really in the street and they're in tune with bars. I still meet an 18 year old that could break down a bar. And this probably one of the only places that's really like that. So I love New York for that. It's the mecca of this shit. So it felt real good to get the validation here. Cause I remember being here for five years and nobody knew me. And then one day that shit just started changing.

12:08And I was like, oh, they recognizing me in New York. It's lit.

12:10Tony Yayo:And New York love is different too. Rob Markman You gotta think about this though. When you get that cosign from Jadakiss, it's almost like a slam dunk because it's like... Rob Markman You gotta still earn it though. You gotta spit some shit to make it. He still gotta go out and earn it. He still gotta go earn it. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying when he spit, if he could impress Jadakiss, niggas know he's fit for what he's fucking doing. Got you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, hell yeah. But it's still big feet to, how you say it, big shoes to step in and shit like that. So, yeah, you know, you gotta put that shit all on the line.

12:46But it worked out with the bars and shit. And that's what got... I didn't get any industry real cosigns besides KISS. It was just KISS and then just putting shit out. Like labels were like, I don't see it. All the labels said I don't see it. None of that by the time they saw it, it was because my data line was going up. You know what I mean? Like my streaming, like undeniable numbers realistically and statistically shit like that.

13:09Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Cause you don't have fly by night fans. That's one thing I'm looking at. Rob Markman - Nah, I got a little core. Rob Markman - You got people that you have a core fan base. Like what's the kid, Russell? What's the kid, Russell with the long hair? I think his name is - Rob Markman - Russ. Russ. I don't know. Sometimes I think it's better for artists to have like G-Unit. We had a core fan base. Rob Markman - Y 'all had the whole world though. That's a fair. Rob Markman - That's more than a core fan base, but now hell yeah. Rob Markman - You know what I'm saying? When I look at your career, cause it's early.

13:37Tony Yayo:I look at your career, I'm like, he got a core fan base of people that really love bars and love what he do. That's why I know you... What's your favorite part of Europe? I know you hit Europe up. I know they love you out there because they love bars in Europe. I'm going to say London because I get a lot of love in London. Yeah, London's one of my main markets. When I look at the streaming data and shit like that, heavy in London. You ain't worried about being that you so respected for bars right now, right? You ain't worried about all this new project going with the whole singing shit. You don't think people going to throw some of your fans off a little bit?

14:11I was, bro, but I just had to do what was in my heart. You know what I mean? I had to go with my passion. I'm going to go with, I got to go with my move and what I feel is God's move. Because I feel like music is spiritual. You ever put a beat on and the words just come to your mind?

14:26Tony Yayo:It's just you and that beat. You ain't thinking about nothing. Facts. But it's the beat, but God's just giving you the instrumental. He's giving you, yo, my son, this is your talent right here. Go get crazy. So if God's giving me, when I'm doing them singing songs, I'm doing them shits in like, Like in a minute, two minutes, it's like unconscious, like a stream of consciousness. So I know this is what I'm supposed to be doing through God. And that's how I feel. I can't go against that to try to push the shit that might sell a little more. But I'ma still come back with hits and rap hits and shit like that.

15:03But yeah, I'm in this era right now, trying to show people in my all around artist. Rob Markman - So what gives you the drive though?

15:10Tony Yayo:You got the bars and shit. Like when you started like what motivated you? I know you heard G-Unit back in the days cause you still young, I know. But like what motivated you when you started getting in the booth? Like young, I started really battle rapping and shit like just around the neighborhood. I'd be like the kid. It was like, you know, I was the kid you could take to a different neighborhood and just be like, yo this little white boy can rap, go ahead rap. Motherfuckers did that to me 9 million times to like to now when. That shit probably happened like five years ago. somebody just told me, oh, you rap, rap.

15:42I was like, nah, it ain't that no more. Yeah, that was when I was 13, 14, 15, all the way probably up to like 18 type shit. But I just always had the drive, bro. I felt like this was my purpose. Before I made any money from this shit, I was like, this is my purpose, what I'm here for. Like, this is my gift. Even though I got lost in doing other shit for a while, I always knew like rap was my shit. I'd practice rapping in the elevator, like to elevator music. You know what I mean? You ever hear a boring ass beat? Like you get in the elevator they playing with me. I see how I can catch the elevator beat.

16:15Like I see any beat that come on TV. The phone you ever call the joint. It's like they giving you the phone music while you're on hold and shit. I'm rapping to this shit. Like, cause I'm trying to catch any type of beat that's out there. So sometimes I'm thinking raps, man. Like sometimes -

16:29Tony Yayo:Rob Markman You like a bank. You go to the studio and do 10 records. Like I might do two. You're going to do 10. You like that? I know you like that. Rob Markman Yeah, but I won't record for like a while though. I might record every two, three weeks and then lock in. I'm not in the studio every night because I got to live a little. I got to live. Rob Markman, I thought you was in the studio every day. Rob Markman, No, I just when I lock in, I lock in tough. Rob Markman, I lock in tough. Rob Markman, How you felt when you did that 2016 cycle though? Talk about that. Rob Markman, That was crazy because that was...

17:04Rob Markman, You went crazy on that one. Rob Markman, Yeah, I knew I had the plug to get in there and I would just wait every day for it. I would wait every day and hope that they'd have a slot for me because I couldn't get no, everybody in there had a major label, a PR agent. Me, I'm just in that shit and they're just telling me, yo, if somebody don't show up, you could be a replacement. Man, I was there for it and I took that opportunity and I took the opportunity. The guy who helped me was named Yomi. He's at Apple Music right now and that just been one of my solid connects. That been one of my real solid connects and I never had a lot of connects in the industry but I didn't need a lot you know I just needed the people that I needed for real but now that was some validation but it still took four years after that to really start getting my shit cranking the pandemic was when everything started to be like all right I can make money off this shit for real.

17:54I noticed you with the ladies a lot I noticed you with the twins make sure I get a picture to him with the twins the twins what's the twins? Which twins? Damn which ones that's how many twins it was you was with? It was the twins. Double Dose Twins? I've been with you. Yeah, the Double Dose Twins. He always have the girls in the video. Always got the girls in the video. Shout out to Double Dose Twins. I know Double Dose Twins. Shout out to them, right? A lot of women. You hang out with the women a lot. Was that like a strategy of yours? I just think, you know, bro, I came from standing on the same street for fucking 10 years, just surrounding by dudes, man, forever.

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18:28So we got to switch up the energy. I'm in this shit. If they want to be around, we got to balance it out. Like we could go, I'd rather us go out right now and it'd be 20 girls and shit. And we just got to have one person that can destroy anyone or shit like that. But man, we got to balance out the energy, keep that feminine energy around. Like if it's all dudes in the club, the club's going to get shot up. Shit's going to go on. Like you had the females there, shit is cool. You know, so yeah, I'll just be trying to enjoy life, man. And I take it that's the motivation for the new project. You just see, you sing it to the ladies like, fuck that, I'm talking to y 'all.

19:05Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I feel like sometimes even when you rapping, I'm going to rap about it. Your mind goes to the most extreme shit you've been through. Naturally. Whatever's the extreme shit, I feel like that's what, you're not going to just rap about going to the corner store and getting a sandwich. Definitely. You're going to rap about the time when you was banging out with police or whatever the fuck was going on. Whatever's the extreme shit in your life, that's what's going to hit your mind first. But I'm like, I'm going to just go through some extreme love and heartbreak with some vibes and that's going to be the extreme shit.

19:39Instead of rapping about street shit, I'm going to swap it out and I'm going to start falling in love with some vibes and getting my heart broke a little bit and that's going to give me music and it did. Allegedly. He said allegedly. He said, you ain't break my heart. I'm just letting you, don't think you broke my heart. Don't ever think that. Don't ever think that. I used you for the material.

20:01Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, definitely. I mean, you getting out your shell. Everybody know you for bars, so now you doing the melodic shit. Rob Markman, Yeah, for sure. I feel like that shit stand the touch of time too. Rap beats change already like six months and shit. What's the new shit? That singing shit, man, you could go straight over a guitar and get busy. Rob Markman, I know you getting a big bag. Shout out to Empire. Y 'all know y 'all getting... Empire, send me a bag too, man. But independent versus major label, what made you go the independent route? What made you want to? I didn't want to. I would have signed to Def Jam for$20 ,000 and they could have my contract in perpetuity.

20:44Def Jam. Yeah, they just didn't see it because at the time, bro -

20:49Tony Yayo:I always laugh at murder. Not to cut you off about this$10 ,000 deal. See, my man - But he said he would have signed for - You know what, it's real talk. See look, exactly. And I told him when I signed for$10 ,000 on top of that, Mills, I was on the run for shooting somebody. Shout out to my guy D from Rough Riders. And he signed me at the time. He respected my situation. He was like, where are you on the run for shooting somebody? And he still gave me the deal and a bag of guns. A bag of hammers, right? And a bag of guns on top of that. I just signed me a lot. You know what I mean? Shout out to D.

21:18That's my brother. He showed me a lot of love. He would've sold a Def Jam for$20 ,000. For the$20 pack. Rob Markman, yeah, nah, for 20 minutes at a certain point, because I had been out in New York, this is after the Cypher. Rob Markman, you're trying to make it happen. Rob Markman, I just want to say I did something with my life, bro, and nobody's showing interest. I'm just like, man, just to say I have a deal, I just wanted to go back home and pop it like, yeah, I'm fucking signing the Def Jam. Like, gangsta, I would've did it for$20 ,000. Maybe 10, bro, they could've walked me down.

21:49Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, you know, hip hop, because for every rapper at a time, there was a time where everybody wanted to be on Def Jam Records. So I say that to say I went independent by default. And I ended up getting, obviously, way bigger numbers than that and still owning the music. And by the time I dropped the tape, I started catching motion in 2021. I dropped the tape. And then I got a check after the tape. They had gave me 25 bands for the tape, which was a lot at the time. That was my biggest deal. Then I got like a$40 ,000,$50 ,000 check after. I was like, what's this for, another album? And they're like, no, this is like your shit recouped the 20 and now you done made 50 bands or whatever it was.

22:27Tony Yayo:You was like, ooh. And I was like, oh, that's independence. I get it. All right. And then - A nigga's like, what's this for? A nigga, I made this? Oh. Yeah. And then I started just dropping like that. So I never had the machine to make me super famous and shit, but I had the willpower and the internet to make myself get a little niche fan base to the point where I could eat off this shit. But I still want to swing for the fences and shit. I would take the right major deal if it was right, but the independent shit is what God wanted me to do for sure. Rob Markman More money, more money. Rob Markman You know what record I felt like really put people in your world for real?

23:07I feel like the record you did with LBL and Free Leaf War. I feel like once that record came out, I feel like it was like, ah. Rob Markman Risk Takers. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm going to keep it a buck. I'm going to keep it a buck. Like Risk Takers is the hardest record to come out the East Coast in last 10 something years. Like, just as a posse cut. There's no hook on it. It's four and a half minutes and the shit is 20 million streams away from gold with no money put into it. Just we digged the shit, shot the shit in treacherous ass areas and uploaded the video and that motherfucker's going and is streaming and it's that.

23:44And Leaf ain't never been here to push it with us. He been booked the whole time. Rob Markman, I ain't going to lie. Rob Markman, I ain't going to lie. Free Leaf Ward, man.

23:48Tony Yayo:Free Leaf Ward, I ain't going to lie. Free Leaf Ward, man. He's the best rapper in the world under 30. Listen, listen, let me tell you. If you from the streets and you got that hard body karate boss, Uncle Murda gonna put you on first. He put me on about Al B. Al. Look, he put me on about Al B. Al when he was still locked up type shit, like niggas in jail. Nah, niggas in jail about his shit, he go flatten them in jail. Al B. Al was killing the jails. He was coming to jail. Albi Al, he's definitely one of my favorite new rappers out of Jersey. Feel like he's... New York, we want him too. Facts.

24:24Tony Yayo:You know what I mean? Straight gangster. Everybody know he really out there. I got a tape coming with Albi. We been locking in, but I got a tape coming with him. And hopefully... Drop that bitch this summer. Yeah, hopefully Leaf get home in time to give us a couple verses and shit, man. Oh, yo, listen. We want Albi Al and Leaf on the for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did Murda put me on? Gotta get Leaf. to Leaf Ward. Now, I know Philly rappers, there's niggas from Mass and Boston can spit. Niggas from Philly can spit. New York, you just know. He put me on Leaf Ward, bro. And yo, we be in Miami bumping that shit.

24:54Tony Yayo:We be overseas. Leaf Ward said, we don't talk to 12. We don't even speak at midnight. Leaf be saying that shit. And he saying it so calm. My shit is wrist takers, mob music. Mob music, he know that's my shit. Yeah, yeah, that's my voice. Like, I feel like if Meek Mills would have signed certain niggas, Oh, Dream Chasers would have been out of here for me. When you think about it, please put it. Yo, it's so much talent in Philly. In Philly, the talent is out the roof. I'm not going to lie. I feel like - He came together with you, him and LBL, man. That's a classic. You know, I originally had that shit.

25:25I named that shit my realest friend. Because at the end, I said, my mother said - Our mother was talking about the gun and all that. Yeah, man. That's what I told my mother every time she found that gun. I said, I done see my homie eyes rolling back right in front of me. That's what I told my mother every time she found that gun on me. He told her this is my realest friend when everybody go to run on me. So the song was my realest friend. And I had Dawn Q and Albie. Those was the people I wanted. Rob Markman, Jr.: That you visioned for? Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah, because Albie had just came home.

25:51Then I put, somehow I got in touch with Leaf Ward. It just work. I'm like, all right. I need... My homie Nip too was telling me like, yo, Leaf got the streets and the chokehold.

26:01Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Jr.: Oh, we can't wait till he get home. Rob Markman, Jr.: It was harder to track him down for the video and shit, but he seen the play and the vision. I pulled up in Philly, he really didn't know I was coming in. I'm like, yo, I'm coming in tomorrow, we just gonna shoot a video, bro. Come on, bro. I got Albie's part done, let's do it, bro. The song gonna do 20 million. That was our goal at the time. He's like, all right. I get out to Philly, he's like, Dan, you really here, bro? He's like, all right, let me throw some shit on. And we went to some, we was in some sort of war zone out in Philly.

26:31That shit came out sturdy.

26:33Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Philly, Brooklyn, Philly. We shot the video in Brooklyn. He called up. He called up. You went to Haiti? I went to Haiti, bro. Shit, I ain't even been to Haiti. This nigga, he ain't never even been to Haiti, Bill. You supposed to go out there? It's treacherous. It's treacherous. I was in Haiti in 2018, 2019, and this when they snatching bodies, but I'm not knowing because I'm so locked in with the Zoes. I grew up with all Zoes and my man's like, yo, come to Haiti. Rob Markman, and I made the decision within 24 hours, I bought the ticket.

27:09By the time I'm telling people, like my moms and different people, they're like, you sure? But I'm so fried, I already booked a ticket.

27:16Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, they're like, yo, you fried and you should go. Rob Markman, boom, me, I'm in the airport, I'm at the gate. Now I see, now it's people walking around, now there's no more white people. It's over for that. I get on the plane, it's definitely over for all, no more white people. I'm like, all right, we're going to Haiti for real. And I should have knew something because the cameraman who was coming out there, he was my man's cameraman, but he was on my flight. And before we boarded the plane, he was like, yo, I don't know about this, bro. And I'm like, me, I'm not, I haven't read the news lately.

27:47So, yo, I told him, I'm like, what you mean, what you mean, you don't know about this, bro? Like, we sturdy. And he goes, my aunt is telling me, like, really don't go there. And I'm like, bro, you straight, bro. Come on, bro. We get out there. We land in Port-au-Prince, man. Man, that's the most aggressive airport. I'm going to tell you good shit about Haiti, too. I ain't just going to say, you know what I mean? You got nice bitches. No, beautiful, incredible shit.

28:12Tony Yayo:Just the role of the things. But we get out there, and the airport is just super aggressive. Like, if you got suitcases, motherfuckers just kind of like moving this shit out the way. You know what I mean? It's just, you got to be sturdy. You know in New York how you got to walk fast and shit? Like, Haiti's really like that. And then when we got out, man, when you get out, it's the motherfuckers. The motherfuckers on the chain link fence looking at you like food type shit. You was food. Yeah. You supposed to have the army. Well, we wasn't. No, we had the army. We got all the deportees from our city and then we got real zoes with us.

28:45We got sticks. But it's still like they don't really care that much. So we get in shit, we driving and it's just every man for themselves. It's like this big ass street, but there's no real lanes to it. But everybody's just doing their thing and getting through. Six people on a moped, shit going on. But then we got to the hotel, though. We get to the hotel, Kawibe. And once you pass the doors to Kawibe, they got the sticks out there. But once you're in there, that shit is paradise. And then I started seeing wild white people in there, too, from other countries and shit. And I was like, oh, nah, Haiti's like, it's not like how they say it is.

29:24But you guys are making it to the fire. Rob Markman, yeah, you got to make it to that spot. And we went to the club and some of the realest shit in my life happened to me at the club. But yeah, we started, we held it, but it's serious though. Haiti's one of them places.

29:39Tony Yayo:We were supposed to go to Haiti. Me, 50, the whole G unit, Banks, everybody, we were supposed to go to Haiti. And this is when I think the earthquake happened. And we were supposed to go to Wyclef, shout out to Wyclef, you know what I mean? And Wyclef got shot in the hand. Rob Markman, trip canceled after that, nigga. Rob Markman, You know what it is, yay? Rob Markman, After nigga, no, I'm trying to explain it because he's like, I want to go to Haiti. My mom's - Rob Markman, But why you didn't just take a trip back on your own? Rob Markman, Nigga, it's not like that, nigga. Rob Markman, Bro, you could get your body snatched though, but I ain't gonna lie, but they gonna - Rob Markman, Nigga, I'm down with 50 cent, nigga, nigga's gonna kidnap me.

30:13Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Yeah. Rob Markman, Yo, what's that? He's Haitian. Rob Markman, You think 50 gonna pay that ransom? 50 might think about that. Jaya worth that two million? I don't have time to negotiate with me getting kidnapped. This guy is crazy. I know you ain't putting up no Bitcoins. What the fuck you mean? You ain't putting up no Bitcoins? I put up a Bitcoins for you, my nigga. I put up a Bitcoins for you. What's my nigga, Barbecue? I need a million dollars. You know what's so crazy though? I fucked with this rapper out there named Kater G. I bumped into him. He's Sasha. Shout out to Kater G, man.

30:43You doing your shit out there. And I locked in with them. They real serious people, but my manager Haitian, he on the phone with K to G and shit, and he's saying something to him like, yeah, when you coming to Haiti, my manager's like, yeah, you know, it's kind of crazy with barbecue. K to G's like, nah, that's my gang. You straight, bro. You know what I'm saying? So barbecue fuck with the people too. It's like -

31:06Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, shout out to the barbecue, man. Rob Markman, you got to go to Haiti, yeah? Rob Markman, Yo, it's not like we eating smoked duck out there. Rob Markman, No, no, no, no, no, no. But they got the best food. I ain't gonna lie. You just gotta make it to that motherfucking resort. You make it to the resort, it's amazing. And I'm sure there's a lot of beaches and people are super nice. And it was amazing. But yeah, we went through some real shit just going to the club in Haiti. Like we went to the club and there's dudes who hang out outside of the club. They're like young, probably like 18, maybe like 14 to 24.

31:39But they pressed us, but we're like love outside of the club. That's what I'm saying.

31:43Tony Yayo:That pressed us. Rob Markman, but it was love. Rob Markman, Kidnap, yeah. Rob Markman, Check it out though. No, check it out. Check it out. Listen, I'ma tell you some real shit. So we get to the club. I walk in and give me dab. I got real love for Haitians, like more than probably any other nationality because I grew up with them. Wepa, Blum, Wai Aixin is fucking real with me, right? Rob Markman, Go ahead, man. Rob Markman, I know. Come on. Rob Markman, You make me say something. You make me say something. Rob Markman, I don't want to say the real thing. Rob Markman, Let me hear you. I don't want to say that.

32:13That's all right, man. All shit fit down. I know what you said. You know what's going on. So we walk into the club. As we walking in, dudes meet me, yo, Millies. They had to drop on me. They're like, yo, Millies, what's up, bro? Like, I fuck with you. I'm like, yeah, I fuck with you too. I go into the club. Man, they blowing fire in the club. Like bad bitches. No, no bad bitches though. Like bad bitches dancing, blowing fire in the club. All type of crazy shit. The club is lit. Some DJ named Tony Mix. Tony Max. Tony Mix, one of them, he was like DJ drama out there, some shit. Like he was out this world.

32:45The club's so crazy. We walked out, the same kids who met us out there. Now he come and dat me again and he's talking. But how they talk is just real serious and aggressive anyways. So one of my men who I'm with, he's like one, because we had a lot of people deported from our city to there. So one of my mans grabbed him on his wrist. Once that happened He looked at the dude grabbing his wrist And shit just started going sideways So they're like come on Mills They start rushing me like into the car type shit

33:17Tony Yayo:So niggas started shaking See this is how I talk about the trip to Haiti Kinda right Kinda but mind you Let me set the stage Let me set the stage We're out there When we pulled up to the club We was in 20 SUVs Sticks Every car got a stick in it. I'm feeling real sturdy. We parked in a little gravel parking area space. At the time, there's no gate in front of it. So when we come out and we walk out and now they meet us for the second time, I'm showing him love. I'm telling people, no, I'll chop it with all of them right now. My man grabs him. Shit goes left. Everyone's like, come on, come on. We start pushing to the parking lot.

34:02So we go into the parking lot But now The parking lot I was in with no gate Now this shit got a whole steel gate So Now we just in there And there was like This back door to get into So where was the sticks at The Haitian sticks So we got sticks We got sticks in the car But the problem is We only got We had We had We had 20 cars though But each one went to a different place So we only got We only got three cars now Right Now all of the kids They ain't feeling the sturdies They walked out of here Now listen Rob Markman Now listen, all of the kids that was kind of pressing us out. I don't want to say pressing because I feel like they was showing love.

34:41Rob Markman Yeah, that's how it be. Rob Markman But I don't know. Rob Markman But you're kind of crazy though, they just even

34:45Tony Yayo:go to Haiti. Rob Markman But it's love though. I move with God, so it was good. But we walk into the parking lot, we get in the truck. I'm still not thinking nothing because I done seen so many people yelling at each other in Creole and shit. I'm just like, this is some regular shit. I'm really looking at Instagram. Now I kind of look up. Man, it's people surrounding our truck, like for real. And now they banging on the windows and shit like this. So I'm still thinking it's regular. I mean, way worse than Belly though. You know when they knocking on the car? Those little kids, yeah, they shit like this.

35:22So I asked my man, my man's real calm. Shout out to Blaze. Shout out to Blaze. No, I go to Haiti. No, Haiti will rise. Haiti's gone. Got some shit coming. But my man Blaze is in the car. He's a very calm individual. And when he looked up and he said, yo, what's going on, man? I said, oh, shit. That's when everything just shattered for me. I'm like, oh, we in a bad predicament right now, for real. And now our driver, he's the one I thought was square. He's my man's older brother. My man Mango Swerve's older brother.

35:55Tony Yayo:Right. I thought he was square. The whole trip, no bullshit. Rob Markman So you had them in Haiti too? Rob Markman They had me in Haiti, yeah. Rob Markman Oh, God. Rob Markman I ain't gonna lie. Rob Markman I can't have people in Haiti. They can have me though. So my man, Mango Swerve's brother, I always thought he was real just a squid Haitian guy, but he's showing teeth like a wolf. Like the wolfs is there and he's barking back at them like, yo, I'm telling y 'all, bro. But they not scared of the guns, bro. Rob Markman I'm scared of the guns, bro. Rob Markman You have to choose. I'm on top of them.

36:27He's okay out there, nigga. And I tell him, I'm like, yo, what are they saying to us, bro? Just give me the basics of what they're saying, bro. And he's like, yo, they want$6 ,000 American for us to leave this parking lot. Oh, shit. So I'm like, damn, this kind of crazy. But I still, I be having so much faith in God. Like, I'm like - You ain't keep going after this. You see why I ain't been out there? I'm starting, but my driver's still showing like aggression. Like, dudes are still showing aggression to them. It's just a lot of aggression type shit. I just wanted the$6 ,000 because the way your man grabbed the nigga.

36:57No bro, it was just extortion.

37:00Tony Yayo:All kind of fuckery. You and our shit. This is our shit. The fuck you watch Belly? You're on the top of the house. Y 'all is rappers from America. Kick up this brief. $6 ,000. You know what? $6 ,000 in American? Like a nigga kidnapped. Yo, imagine we go out there. You got your jewelry on. $50 ,000. Give us$2 ,000 ,000. Niggas is stuck like Chuck, boy. So we in there. Shit just keep going on. And then somebody with like a fake sort of SWAT vest. Like you don't know if the police or the police or they cook it or whatever it is. Somebody with some sort of SWAT vest come in and he's like, hey, everybody get out this shit.

37:41Now, in that time, one of the people we was with in the car behind us run, pop the gate, open the gate. As soon as we opened the gate, my driver just floored that shit. We almost hit some kids getting out of there. And he did about 70. Sorry, kids. He did about 70. And these is back streets. He's doing like 70. You know, that's fast on like little back streets that ain't lit. He did 70 back to the Hotel Kawibe. Once I passed that gun line with the security, I sat there. I'm like, oh, I ain't safe here. Like, this is crazy. Look at you. Look at you. And then the next day. Look at you. Ain't nobody sturdy in Haiti, nigga.

38:19Now, the next day, they tell me, yeah, people's getting their body snatched out here. So, people, and I'm like, what you mean? They're getting their body snatched. People is getting kidnapped out here. And I'm like, kidnapped? This is some shit. I'm thinking just treacherous shit, but I'm not thinking kidnapped. So, the next day, I kind of play close to the hotel. We still had to go out, though. But now, I'm just sturdy. I'm standing against cars. I mean, cause a van could drive by and they could just take your body. I'm like 165 or some shit. You know what I mean? Like, man, but long story short, by the time I got to the airport, I felt real blessed.

38:59But I'm glad I went out there. And I say that, that's a dramatic story.

39:04Tony Yayo:I got to go, nigga. That's a dramatic story, but there was a lot of love out there. Amazing food. A lot of love. It's just, you gotta move super sturdy. And when they do fix it up, cause you know, America and all of them been robbing them. these motherfuckers for everything. They've been keeping Haiti down because Haiti independently freed itself in 1804. Why is there no 1804 movie though? With Toussaint, Saint Laurent and all of that. Toussaint, man. Yeah, he freed the slaves. Yeah, there should be an 1804 just like there's the shit with Russell Crowe, Gladiator. Why we can't see them killing 19 million French people?

39:41That's too crazy. But that's why they try to hold Haiti down, but once the fuckery gets over with, Haiti's going to rise back because there's no more beautiful beaches, beautiful women, beautiful, amazing food. It's all set up for the win. It's a resort. It's all set up for the win. You tell me something. You never been there yet, brother. Let my man tell me that been there. You know what I'm saying? Tell me murder is beautiful. He got out of there. He went in there. He got up.

40:12Tony Yayo:$6 ,000 parking lot. Nigga, you ain't hear that? If we went not 50, what you think is going to happen with us? When we 50, we going to have fucking... 60 ,000. Look at this. 60 ,000. We went 50. 50 good. Me and you go there. That's 50 and them boys. Kidnapped them. Now we went barbecue, getting barbecued. I can't fuck with this thing. Barbecue. You don't mean it, barbecue. We don't want no smoke. I love barbecue. We love you. We love you, man. Rob Markman, man. Damn. Hattie Niggas are crazy. They not trying to... Rob Markman, Nah, I ain't gonna lie, bro. You can toll that nigga 6 ,000 to park it.

40:51Tony Yayo:That is crazy. Rob Markman, Bro, I'm gonna keep it a buck. I call that Haitian power, bro. I really believe Haitians got a different type of power. They different, man. Rob Markman, You gotta understand, they overthrew the French army with extracting poison from blower fishes and thinking and just having more heart and willpower. Rob Markman, Real shit. Rob Markman, I'm trying to tell you, bro. And that's why... And when I pushed into the game... The rain that they was used to, the army wasn't used to. Facts, they used to everything. So when they hit them, they hit them at like a certain kind of season where they knew they was going to be fucked up in Haiti.

41:22Tony Yayo:Like Haitians, both my parents from Haiti, I never met, like every Haitian I met is crazy. Like our parents is like, we was trained like military as little. Don't go in the refrigerator. You go to somebody's house, take your shoes off. You know what I mean? Curfew. Hey, curfew. My mom's. Yeah, Haitian. Listen. Rob Markman, I pushed into the game. When I came into the game, that's who the fuck I pushed in with because I grew up with all the Zos. So I'm pushing in with Dominicans and Haitians for real life. And that's what made my shit different. You know it's never been a white boy in the history of rap to move around in a certain way, man.

42:00I'm stomping with the Zos. I got Haitian power too. Shit.

42:03Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Back in the days when niggas was getting like Gumbies and like parts and all that shit. No, no, no. You know, like you can get a Hulko. A half moon, you can get this shit. We couldn't have no fun. Friends over, no friends over. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Jim Gaffigan to Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. who's the worst singer in the group the worst yeah me is there anything to the idea that because you're from harvard uh you only got in because your parents made a huge donation the yard birds right that's the name the harvard yard but they're open do you have a name suggestion we're open since you guys are middle-aged uh one erection listen to humor me with robert smigel and friends on the iheart radio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

43:10Humor me. I need some jokes to make me seem funny. There are times when the mind becomes a difficult place to live. This is David Eagleman with the Inner Cosmos podcast. And for Mental Health Awareness Month, we're dedicating a series to understanding the mind when it struggles. I'm joined by doctors, researchers, and those with lived experience. We'll talk with singer-songwriter Jewel about anxiety. I started living in my car and then my car got stolen. I was shoplifting. I was having panic attacks. I was agoraphobic. And making it through hardship. To be present is a learned skill and it's hard to be present.

43:52We'll talk with John Nelson about clinical depression and the brain implant that saved his life. What I learned is that procedure made me happy because I'm disease free. And we'll talk with leading experts like Jud Brewer about anxiety and John Hirshfield about obsessive compulsive disorder and the science of how the brain can change. This is a month of deeply personal and honest conversations about what happens when the brain goes off course and what we can do about it.

44:22Tony Yayo:Listen to Intercosmos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. May is Mental Health Awareness Month and your 20s, they can feel like a lot. On the Psychology of Your 20s podcast, we unpack the anxiety, the overthinking, the heartbreak, the identity crisis, all of it that comes with being in your 20s. Because if you've ever thought, is anybody else feeling this way? They definitely are. I feel like my 20s was a process of checking off everything that I was not good at to get to what I was good at. Oftentimes we take everything a little bit too seriously and we get lost in things that we later on decide weren't even important to us to begin with.

45:10There was a large chunk of my 20s that I was just so wanting to be out of that phase, out of my skin. And I just really regret not living in the present more. Each week, we break down the science behind what you're going through and give you real tools to navigate it. Your 20s aren't about having it all figured out. They're about understanding yourself just a little bit better. Listen to The Psychology of Your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is everyone obsessed with romance right now? Like everyone. Your co-worker who quote unquote doesn't read is reading romance.

45:47Your mom, book talk, the entire internet. I'm Sanjana Basker. I'm Tyler McCall. And this is Radio 831, a romance podcast. The books, the tropes, the adaptations, the drama, the discourse. And what all of it says about how we actually love, yearn, and obsess. We're going to Wuthering Heights. Which, for the record, is not a romance novel. And yet it has haunted the romance genre for 200 years. We're getting into dark romance, age gaps, certain Russian hockey players, and sentient objects in love, which is a thing. That's the kind of conversation we're having every episode. Listen to the Radio 831 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

46:38Tony Yayo:Don't sleep over. Everything was strict because Haitians, they'll give you tough love. So my mom's way of love was, now I love you, I'm going to work. That's it. Niggas used to joke on me, beans and rice every day, chicken. Beans and rice every day. Know what I'm saying? But nigga, we had a strict lifestyle. We got in trouble, it was all hell break loose. It's a drug dealer. Every Haitian parent wants you to be a doctor, nigga. Doctor, lawyer. Niggas was drunk. Y 'all niggas is street niggas. Y 'all niggas ain't no doctors, man. Y 'all niggas don't look like no doctors to me, man. That's why parents, you know what I mean?

47:17I ain't gonna lie, my man, we from the same street and I love his moms to death. She was so strict when I was young. I was scared of her. I was like, man, I want no problems with yo-yo, man. In my hood, everybody crib got raided.

47:31Tony Yayo:Shout out to mama love. Shout out to mama love. Cause I couldn't have company. Niggas couldn't. Every nigga crib. My next door neighbor crib got raided. My man around the corner crib got raided. Yo, his crib never get, nigga, my mom's no company, no company. Off my porch. Off my porch. Niggas, they know what I'm saying. Off my porch. They know the strictest word. I learned all the curse words. If I was smart, I would have learned the real shit. I learned all the curse words and shit. So I know how to tell the motherfucker like, Femmeh Joloo, man. You know what I mean? Femmeh Joloo, my cock, motherfucker.

48:06Suze Glamwe. I know all the worst shit to say. Yeah, he know more Krayol than you, sir. He might do. Rob Markman, ain't no Mike. He do, yeah. He do. He do. I want to hear you say some shit right now. Fuck that. You a cock-eye shit. You a cock-eye shit.

48:19Tony Yayo:You a piece of shit, motherfucker. What the fuck he just said? What the fuck? Did he call me? I know the curses because my mom used to curse me out. That's it. I knew the curse. I knew the curse. Hey dog. You got crayon on the real report. You hang with the Zos. That's right. That's right. I told you. Our parents never tell us I love you. They go to work and that's it, nigga. They never tell you. Nah. Rob Markman, Haitian parents are going to tell you they love it. It's just like Jamaicans like that, Haitians, and the island. We from Queens. So that's all I came up with is around Jamaicans, Haitians, Guyanese, Trini.

48:53Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Guyanese, Trini. Rob Markman, that was my like every... I knew niggas that tough Guyanese niggas, tough Trini niggas, tough Haitian niggas. You know what I'm saying? Tough Jamaican niggas. Niggas pull out them old school knobs that flip around and shit like back in the day. Rob Markman, It's a butterfly shit. Rob Markman, Yeah, it's like some shit with a little handle on it. Niggas all drive stick shifts to be wildin' out. Rob Markman - Oh man. Rob Markman - And you know the Jamaicans had the weed spots all back in the days. Let me get that bottle of a drink. Rob Markman - I bet he wants some more drinks.

49:19So this project you got dropping, who you got on it? What's some of the features? Do you got any features on this project? Rob Markman - Yeah, I got my man Richie Rose. I got him on a big song on there and then I got Honcho. Rob Markman - Honcho, okay. Rob Markman - Yeah, you know Honcho's super stamped with the girls. That's helping my record go up with the Bad Bitch community. Rob Markman, Jr.: Okay, okay.

49:43Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Jr.: So, honcho, we need you on the show, man. Rob Markman, Jr.: Honcho, honcho, man. We need you on the show, honcho. Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah, honcho, we need you to pull up over here, man. Rob Markman, Jr.: We need honcho on the show. Rob Markman, Jr.: Y 'all shit is lit, man. Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah, we working. Consistency's the key. Rob Markman, Jr.: And we got people like you on the show, man. Rob Markman, Jr.: Hell yeah. I got to go to Morocco with you, though, man. Rob Markman, Jr.: Nah, we going to do that. Rob Markman, what's your favorite spots overseas? Rob Markman, The shit you be saying is real extravagant.

50:07I don't think I reached that level. I'm trying to think. London, Paris is cool. Paris is a little bougie and shit. Rob Markman, Paris is bougie. Rob Markman, You gonna go see the Mona Lisa?

50:19Tony Yayo:You not into shit like that. Rob Markman, No, I would, but I don't know. I got to get the plug for that. Rob Markman, The Mona Lisa, The Louvre? No, you can just go to The Louvre. Rob Markman, I'm going to The Louvre. I'm going to Lua one day. But I like like self-emotional. I like like DR and shit, man. I like to go to DR and go to La Capital. We know what's going on in DR, man. Yeah, but I'm going to DR in a different way, man. Okay, okay. I'm tapping in like, you know, we got mini DR in Mass. You ever heard of Lawrence? No. You heard of Lawrence? In DR? No, it's mini DR in Massachusetts. Oh, no.

50:54But it's a town that's all Dominicans type shit. Like, it's a city in Mass. All Dominicans though. So how y 'all got the Washington Heights out here? Or Dykeman and shit like that? We got that in a major, major, major, major, major way. So when I go to La Capital, they already know me because we just tapped in from so many people coming back and forth from Boston and shit.

51:18Tony Yayo:Rob Markman So you be known to Spanish music too, nigga? A little bit. Rob Markman What's chopped up? I got a Spanish song with TV guns and shit, but yeah. I fuck with some of the Dimbo and shit like that. Rob Markman How did Cape Verdeans get to Boston? I always wondered that. They're African. Never been to Cape Verdeans. I think like 90 % of them, yeah, they got black sand beaches, I heard. Rob Markman You in Cape Verdeans? Yeah, black sand beaches. They got Kachupa. You know what Kachupa is? Rob Markman What's that? That's like they famous dish and shit. I don't want to get it wrong. Rob Markman Oh, so you got Cape Verdean girlfriends.

51:52Tony Yayo:You know about all that. Rob Markman, I definitely had Cape Verdean girlfriends for sure. Rob Markman, Because y 'all know, y 'all used to the Cape Verdean women out there. That's one thing y 'all got. It's just a mixture of people. Rob Markman, I ain't gonna lie, they like a national treasure when I move around this world. But everybody telling me rappers is basketball players. Y 'all got Cape Verdean women. Rob Markman, Nah, because Cape Verdean, I always knew Boston for that. Like they had beautiful women. We used to go on the mixtape tours. And they be like, oh, see we from Cape Verdean. And I'm like, where's Cape Verdean?

52:18Tony Yayo:And they be like, Africa. Rob Markman, CV. Rob Markman, Right. So you be like, damn, these chicks is bad. So I always wonder why everybody in Boston is Cape Verdean. Because we don't have too much Cape Verdeans in New York. I think we got nine. We got Haitians, we got Jamaicans, Guyanians. Yeah, we got 90 % of the population, if I'm not one of them shits. 80, 90 % it came to Massachusetts and Rhode Island, like Providence and all of that too. That's what I'm saying. I never met a girl from New York from Cape Verdean. Me neither. Only in Boston. Me neither. So you said you got a project with Albi Al.

52:50when y 'all come when y 'all drop I know the streets gonna be looking forward to that man. That's cool. Summertime we need to put that out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gonna try to get it. He got he got me barring off. He got me barring off. So okay, I'm gonna do that and I'm gonna drop again continue to drop man. That's the name of the game with this shit for me like this volume. Yeah, I gotta just drop drop drop. And one of the shits that'll hurt you as an artist is feeling like damn this is a song that should blow up. You're gonna drop about 10 of them and be like damn what happened nothing happened with it.

53:16that was my baby you know what I mean but you gotta just keep going and I look at my mind like a factory in uh Colombia or Peruvia where they make the cocaine and shit like I got an unlimited amount of this shit in my mind so I use it like you know in that manner how do you feel like that I know you feel like a record posted to like bigger like these posted to do more numbers but it don't yeah that shit could fuck you up that shit could fuck your confidence up for real But I feel like it's just the key to just keep dropping and look at it like, yo, I can make a million of these. That's not my best song.

53:50You can never look at it like - Don't fall in love with the record like that. Yeah, don't fall in love with the record like that.

53:53Tony Yayo:I think artists don't know what the hit is. You don't? It's just going to come to you naturally. It just comes. And the people going to tell you what's the hit too. That's true too, yeah. You never know what the hit is. In your mind, it could be your favorite record. Yeah, exactly. I had to try to learn to separate myself from that because one of my distro deals, it was a way bigger deal. And we blew like 75 ,000 on this record that I, in my mind, I was like, this is the shit. And that record's not even in my top 100 stream songs. And I blew 75 ,000 on it. Rob Markman That was your favorite record.

54:29Rob Markman Yeah, then a record that I put nothing on, a million times better than that. So it's like, yeah, you can't really fall in love with the records as an artist. Rob Markman What that taught you though right there, like damn, I put all this money behind this record, it ain't do too much, but record that I just ain't really even had to put that much. Yeah, that's why I'm looking now for the organic reactions. What goes organically? That's the only way I'm going to spend money. I got to put this shit out now, see what's people fucking with, and then push. Then put a bag behind this one. Okay, this one is grabbing the people's attention.

55:01Yeah, even for Seagas, we put it out. But at the same time, I was putting out other shit. That was the one that went. If I knew like I knew now, I'd really try to put a bag on it because it just went natural.

55:11Tony Yayo:I think you never know what's going to be the record though. You don't. You just don't know. Rob Markman, this guy helped 50 pick many, man. 50 ain't even like the record at first. Rob Markman, 50 hated that record. Rob Markman, impossible. Rob Markman, he thought it was too slow tempo. Rob Markman, no, it's serious too. 50 told me he said he thought it was too slow. Rob Markman, damn. Rob Markman, I'm like crazy. I thought it was too slow. Rob Markman, I mean the record was done already, but he just didn't like the record like that. And I'm like, you're bugging. And that record is it. Rob Markman, yeah, that's one of them.

55:38Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, because he like, you know, that's why a lot of people sleep on 50, but I'm like, if we go back G on that mixtape, we'll kill everybody. Rob Markman, nah. Rob Markman, 100 % man could talk, all that shit. Rob Markman, Nah, 100%. 100%. Rob Markman, Niggas was fresh out of getting shot talking that shit. Rob Markman, Nah, the DVDs and the CDs, I used to be so inspired off them shit. Rob Markman, Listen, one lesson I always... Nobody's ever holding you down if you got the pistol too. If we all three got the pistol, who's holding who down? If I ain't got the pistol, yeah, you holding me down, because I ain't got it.

56:09Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Yeah, you just around, you an extra gun. Rob Markman, But if we, everybody got the pistol, ain't nobody holding the 50 down. So niggas be like, yo, I was holding them down. How you holding somebody down that got the pistol too? I'm gonna keep it a buck. That's the thing in rap though. I feel like dudes get around and then they be feeling like they might hang around you for three, whatever it is, three months, three years and feeling they mine. I was protecting you, bro. If you never did nothing actively to protect me though, like nothing happened, what the fuck was you? Optical security?

56:41You know what I mean? You stood there and looked tough, bro. I could contract not. The average guy outside is looking tough right now. I could have brought him with me for that. You ain't protect me or push the line for this shit. And that's why I had to really... That's why I be with all girls too now, man. Because they not going to be like Millie's. I was protecting you. You know what I mean? Motherfucker, you feel... Those be feeling entitled because they came around and yeah, I was in them spots and we met. But I go out every night and day and risk my life. So what happened to all them other times I made it through?

57:13Was you protecting me in spirit then?

57:16Tony Yayo:You flew to Haiti on a whim. I know you go everywhere. You don't give a fuck. So how you start dealing with, you know, we in the social media era now. How you deal with the hate, the negative comments? Like we was just talking earlier. Niggas said, nigga, Billy, you're red. He told on his brother. How you deal with that shit? Man, that was the first time I done seen some propaganda. I said, oh, I got propaganda pages about me. I'm doing good. I'm successful. You know what I mean? But I think now when I make a post, if I don't see no hate under the post, I'm like, oh, this post ain't about to do nothing.

57:48If it's just all fire emojis, I'm like, chalk this one up. It's not going to do nothing. You need the hate because the hate drives the algorithm type shit.

57:57Tony Yayo:This is what I'm trying to explain. You want to keep a balance though. You don't just want to just do, some motherfuckers just jump out there to do shit. You got to look at it like this, guys. Right? Instead of the haters, the people who I hate on me, you, and him. instead of them being in the street, taking lives or selling drugs, they can hate on us and make 10, 15 grand a month. We not mad at you. Yeah, everybody got to eat. That's how you got to look at it. A person is making money off your likeness because once you sign that line, you are public property. That's when you sign that deal. Yo, I'm Uncle Murdoch.

58:30As soon as you put out a song. It's a public property.

58:32Tony Yayo:A nigga can say what he want to say. He going to make up any story. But that's why certain people be scared of success and they won't pop out because they scared to deal with, you know, shit like that. But you can't have one without the other. This is life. Yeah, yeah. People terrified to post a picture sometimes, you know what I mean? So it's like, man, I'm putting myself out there. Like, of course, everybody's not supposed to like this shit. I wouldn't expect you to like this shit if you haven't lived my life or walked in my shoes or been through none of my experiences. It's like, what have you been through that qualifies you to like me anyway?

59:07That's how I feel. You know, as far as when it comes to the music, like, you're not supposed to get it. It's not for you, for the people who don't get it. You know, that's why it's a different type of motherfuckers in the world. Definitely.

59:18Tony Yayo:I think bars are always going to be relevant with guys like you, J. Cole. You know what I'm saying? The list goes on and on. Banks. Like, I think bars is going to always be relevant because niggas want to hear bars. Niggas sometimes, it's like microwave music. Sometimes niggas it's out of here, because you got to think all the classic music is really old head right now. Niggas that's touring, 50 could do Live Nation, 103 dates, Jay could do Yankee Stadium, he could do dates. All the old niggas could still tour. Eminem could pop out right now and get 10 million just to chill. Rob Markman, Yo, what's up with the free Ayo shirts?

59:57Tony Yayo:I get them back popping, man. That's a fact. You know why that's so hard too? Cause that wasn't, that was like Eminem's such a rapper, that's a damn near double entendre cause it was free Ayo, but then it could also just be taken as like free Ayo. Free Ayo, you better believe me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Free Ayo and free Ayo and we got free Ayo cause we pumping this shit out right there. Listen, and that's why nobody could ever say something bad about Eminem, not only cause of that cause I feel like he's one of the best MC's of all time. Rob Markman Of course, that's my goal. Rob Markman And I feel like, genuine in signing with Eminem and Dr.

1:00:33Tony Yayo:Dre was the best deal. Rob Markman Bro Bro, y 'all don't understand how that shit felt as a kid watching that shit. And Em was the only super relatable rapper to me, because I'm like, he say shit like, you can't miss me, I'm blonde, blue, I'm blonde, I'm blonde here, and blue eyes and my nose is pointy. He was saying shit, I'm like, oh, that's me right there. Rob Markman You know what I'm saying? Rob Markman He talking to me. Rob Markman Yeah, like, and he was talking that shit for and he was showing the crazy side of white people and I was jacking it and um you know he was such a lyricist and then I'm listening to 50 I'm so in tune with the mixtape but I'm in tune with power of a dollar I'm in tune with all that shit so when them shits merged you know this was before social media you could do a uh a post like how yo god he signed his artist with wow money on the thing there wasn't nothing to really confirm it it was a real rumor and then I heard Now don't think I won't hit you because I'm popular.

1:01:24I got to do it. And I said, oh, he's really, it sounds like it's stamped. And then it was like levels to knowing this shit was really stamped. And once it was stamped, I was like, damn, this is like my favorite rapper and my favorite rapper going crazy. And I never seen no shit like that in hip hop except maybe, yeah, another. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. Because M is a juggernaut, bro. M like the Celtics with Bill Russell when they won 11 chips in a row. Rob Markman, let me tell you, man. Rob Markman, I don't know that about that. I know the ring.

1:01:54Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, The Illest, the Illest, yo, my Illest experience in life, the tours I've been on, like, cause I'm, the book will come soon, y 'all. It's gonna be amazing. Look, my life, like, being on an anger management tour with M in his prime, and 50 in his prime. Rob Markman, It's crazy. Rob Markman, Not arenas, stadiums. Rob Markman, It's crazy. Rob Markman, Lions stadium, this stadium, like Detroit stadium, like that was a movie. 20 tour buses. Rob Markman, Wait, so when y 'all did that? Rob Markman Yeah, Get Rich or Die Trying was out. Rob Markman Yeah, Get Rich or Die Trying. Rob Markman Also, this shit was full fledged.

1:02:24Rob Markman This shit was full fledged. Rob Markman Like the, I've been patiently waiting for a track. Rob Markman Yeah, everything. Rob Markman That was out at the time?

1:02:29Tony Yayo:Rob Markman Everything was out. Rob Markman Oh, nah, that tour was a movie. Rob Markman Anger Management tour was crazy with Eminem, bro. Rob Markman Mad tour buses, women everywhere. Rob Markman It was no arena. Rob Markman It was stadiums. Rob Markman Sick. Rob Markman I remember fucking, was it, did Havre fall through it? Rob Markman I remember, cause you know the stadium, this was, stadiums arenas is crazy. The stage was so big. I think Havoc, they was performing in Detroit Stadium, and I say it was crazy. You know how they got the Dropbox? That nigga motherfucking Havoc just fell through there.

1:02:58Tony Yayo:See, my life flies through the drop paper. Boom! Nigga fell through there. Yo, where that nigga go? Where that nigga go? He fell in the shit, the box, the Dropbox. You know they be telling you to watch that shit. That tour right there was the illest tour of my life to be on tour with Eminem. Where that nigga go? Rob Markman, M &M move like the president. Like, nigga, M &M want tacos. That shit going to 10 different niggas. M &M want tacos. M &M want tacos. Rob Markman, M &M want tacos. You was there when he laid the... That nigga move like the president. You was there when he laid all the... Shady Records was 82nds away from the top.

1:03:32Tony Yayo:Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to understand, my experiences, that's why people be like, yo, why he talk about these niggas? Because this shit, for me, fuck money, fuck jewelry, fuck all... So them experiences being in a studio with Dr. Dre for the first time, being in the studio with Eminem for the first time, niggas signing a deal, 50 on the phone. That's when Cristal was popping. Cristal was popping. Million dollars. I'm like, shit, Eminem, this shit's crazy. Eminem. And then niggas, we just had a lot of hate because why? Eminem was white. So motherfuckers was hating on him. Like, that's Mike motherfucking winning.

1:04:07Tony Yayo:He had balls. See, Eminem got my... I feel like at the time, I ain't even hear the hate, though. Like it was so much motion. I mean, it was hate coming from certain areas, but you think about - Social media wasn't around like that. So I feel like he was just having this fucking wave. I never thought 50 would say, yo, sign with Eminem and Dr. Dre, bro. Best thing ever. Best time of my life. I'm talking about being on buildings, eating lunch with Jimmy Iovine to being in the studio, Hennessy, Mad Bud with Dr. Dre. I'm like, it's NWA. I'm like, oh, she's good. Dr. Dre. Like niggas, and he's playing in the club.

1:04:42Tony Yayo:He's playing P-I-N-P. You go on the fucking Eminem studios, separate studios, because Eminem sometimes he'll be in his own zone. Like he be in his shit, we in another shit. And he be like, yo, tell 50 somebody to intercom in. Tell 50 to come here or go over there. You know what I mean? He'll be in his own zone. Eminem type of nigga, 20 instruments. He's a professionalist to the key. People don't understand. They just think rapping, he's a producer too. Rob Markman - Right. Rob Markman - Nigga said, these are the steps from Poltergeist in Miniman. I'm like, those are the steps from Poltergeist and some shit.

1:05:18Tony Yayo:How do you know what movie the sounds and the steps is? It get deeper than... When you get in the studio with them niggas, they like mad scientists. It ain't no, yo, put the beat on. Nah, it's mad thought going into the shit. Every album is like a movie. That's what Dre and M may get rich style trying, a super fucking classic. I don't know why DJ Self, Self you're an idiot. I don't know, you cool, but you're an idiot DJ Self. Self don't know what's hip hop. What he do? He just been saying some dumb stuff. Shout out to my guy DJ Self. We gon' get him on the show. Yeah yo mad at DJ Self. Well Self said this - We gon' get Self on the show.

1:05:54Two things. Two things with Self. We gon' get Self on the show.

1:05:56Tony Yayo:Two things with Self. Self said Ice Cube was better than Nas. Never. Is he bugging? I told you he was mad at himself. He's from Brooklyn. That's a different... Then he said, look, then he said Ice Cube was better than Biggie. He's from New York and Brooklyn, so I'm tripping like... Well, Biggie's the greatest rapper of all time. Rapper. I'm not saying rap artist. To me, Tupac the best rap artist, but Biggie is the greatest rapper. You got to think, most of Biggie's illest bars, he was saying words that didn't exist, but it's just flying over your head because it's Chris Must missed us. Chris Must not a word.

1:06:35I'm at the opera. Franklin's on top of the opera. What is opera? But he just, he's taking shit. He's so surgical with his shit. He just get big. Like, Big just get big in his voice like an instrument. Big's the best ever, bro.

1:06:49Tony Yayo:Big said a couple of pause lines and niggas always try to use that. Hold on. Try to use that against him just for that. But what I'm saying is when you hear today's agenda, got the suitcase up in the central, go to room 112, that is one of the hip hop's best stories ever told where niggas are - Rob Markman - And you gotta understand, even in that story, he went into giving you character development like a novel would on Arizona Rome from Tucson, and he pushed a black Yukon. He done told you he from Arizona. He pushed a black Yukon. He played in slow grooves. He caught a body, slit his throat. Then he got bagged with the toast, beat it.

1:07:31Took it to the child, beat it. Now he feel he undefeated. He means it. Nothing to lose tattooed around his gun wounds. Everything to gain embedded in his brain. And me, I feel the same for this paper. You're dying, especially if my daughter crying. I ain't lying. Y 'all know the sign. You can't physically rap better than Big in life. He is the bar and there's no bar over it to me.

1:07:52Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, You remember when he had that freestyle? Rob Markman, B-I-P, Dave. Rob Markman, Brooklyn. Rob Markman, And the beats was changing? I can't find it nowhere, but that's one of... You know what I'm talking about? When he just... When he talking about him in the hospital, I think he had one of Snoop's beats on him. Rob Markman, Yeah, he did Mad West Coast. He did all the West Coast beats over. Rob Markman, Bro. Rob Markman, He did all the West Coast beats over. Rob Markman, Come on, bro. That's when going to Hot 97 was like... Going to Hot 97. That's like when Mace said bounce through LA, blowin' red Pele.

1:08:20Tony Yayo:Like them - I ain't gonna lie, Mace was dumb nights too. Mace was one of them. Mace is very slept on, Mace is dumb nights. Murder Mace. Nah, he, come on. Niggas know what Mace do. Mace was dumb nights. That was my favorite freestyle. Bounce through LA, blowin' red Pele. That was, I think it was on Hot 97. That's classic moments, nigga. That's a fact, man. That's what every rapper wanted to do. Like for me, that was like going to flex. How you felt when you get your first time up to flex and shit like that? Like that was like - Yeah, no, I was, I was like, I went to flex the first time. That's when I learned about, you know how they call it freeze the shooter?

1:09:00Like in a basketball game, like if you got two foul shots and they'll call the timeout during the second one. So I got up there and I sat in the lobby for like five hours. This is when I really kicked it with Crack and was able to talk with Crack and he's telling me mad stories, this shit. I started forgetting about the shit I'm about to rap. You know, I stopped focusing because I'm like, damn, this hip hop history right here. Then I walked to the door, I see Corey Gunz in there just black and going crazy. Now I'm like, I've been drinking motherfucking Duce Ava four hours in the lot. So now I get in there, you know, Flex ain't too personable sometimes when you talk to him and shit like he's cool but he's like you know a little -

1:09:39Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - You gotta prove yourself. Rob Markman - Yeah, you gotta prove yourself. So now I'm like damn bro, I'm trying to remember what the fuck. That was one of the harder joints to get through but you know I caught it and that shit did real good for me. Rob Markman - Look at that. Rob Markman - But yeah, I like that shit though. I miss the adrenaline in rap like where it was like yo go and prove your fucking nice on the spot. Rob Markman - Show niggas that you get busy. Rob Markman - I caught that recently with like the Kasanat shit only because it's a live stream. Like that shit live in front of the world.

1:10:04If you stumble, it's not no do over. Rob Markman Can't make it. Rob Markman Nah, this is right here and they looking at you like -

1:10:10Tony Yayo:Rob Markman Yeah, Flex was live. You right. Flex was live when we was thinking about that. You had the show improve right there on the spot. Rob Markman Yo, listen bro. Rob Markman Ain't no editing none of that. Rob Markman Listen, my Funk Flex freestyle, if y 'all don't know about it, go check that out. Rob Markman We gotta pull that up. Rob Markman You know I be slept on, but that one right there - Rob Markman That one right there, even Flex knew what time it was. Like, I don't know, like I know now they got on the radar, but it seems like on the radar is more laid back and people are playing like, eh, man.

1:10:40Tony Yayo:Like, there was pressure. The stakes is high at flex. I know what you're saying. Like, with flex, I don't know. You know, it's like the night before, nigga, you got to do flex, nigga. Nigga was thinking about all his balls. Like, yo, what the fuck I'm going to do? This is flex. Yeah, yeah. I'm up there with Banks, 50 of them niggas got balls. But that's missing from the game now. I got to be ready. Like that shit is a different kind of adrenaline rush. For me, I don't know if on the radar they feel that same adrenaline rush, because it's like niggas is like singing, some niggas are just chilling, and some niggas ain't saying shit on there.

1:11:13Tony Yayo:They just bop, bop, bop. Rob Markman Yeah, no, it's a different - Rob Markman So for me - Rob Markman He know what I mean. Rob Markman He know what I mean. Rob Markman So like you know what I mean, Bert. Rob Markman That energy, that adrenaline rush, that shit come with like Cosmic Kev, LA Leakers - Rob Markman Of course, I have the Cosmic Kev too. Rob Markman All of those, that's what I wanted to do when I first got in this shit. I was like, yo, let me check all the bases. So just in case anybody got me fucked up, let me go to Sway multiple times. Let me go to Flex. Sway too. If you fuck up on Sway, Sway, I ain't gonna lie.

1:11:42Sway's one of the realest people ever. We came in there and we was double booked with the Jonas Brothers, was booked for Jonas Brothers, right? They the biggest group in the world. They in there, they got the entourage, like 40-person entourage. They doing some shit with like GQ or some shit. And Sway was like, yo, I'm about to walk to the bathroom. Yo, don't move. We in the hallway waiting to get into the room. He's like, yo, don't move. Don't let none of them move y 'all from this spot. So as soon as Sway spin off some people from Jonas Brothers record label or whatever, they're like, can y 'all watch out?

1:12:17Because Vogue is about to come through here and do them. So I don't want to cause no problem in the building. We walk back and shit. Sway came back. He saw us, he said, y 'all moved? We like, yeah, well, you know, the people, yo, he spazzed on all of them, bro. He spazzed on all of them. He said, yo, don't ever, ever, ever treat one of your guests more special than my guests in life. Matter of fact, you don't even be in this building. Like, yo, Sway blacked on them and then we just did the interview. And he was like, see the Jonas Brothers? Watch this. He saluted the Jonas Brothers. He was like, see, they love me.

1:12:50All these people around, these people is nobody, bro. Don't ever disrespect hip hop, bro. Sway blitzed on the whole - Shout out to Sway. Sway blitzed on the Jonas Brothers staff, faculty, and record label as a motherfucking crew. Sway blitzed on them. Look at that.

1:13:04Tony Yayo:He held you down on that. I fuck with Sway. You know he don't play. Shout out to Sway. Sway actually let me host his show a couple of times when he don't be there. He let me host his show for him. Shout out to Sway, man. Rob Markman, this is the thing I was going to say about Hot 97, because you had Jay-Z freestyle on there. Nas, Biggie, Mace, everybody freestyled on there. So Flex was like... I remember we went up there, son, that shit just be a whole different. I know what you saying, all them shits, Cosmic Kevin and all that. Rob Markman Nah, Flex is different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rob Markman Like from New York City and the bombs is dropping, nigga.

1:13:42Tony Yayo:Rob Markman And you from here. Rob Markman That shit is live. Rob Markman Like he said, it's live. It ain't no... And y 'all get harsh criticism in New York. Like New York is a place where it's like, if you fumble, your block is going to be outside the next day. Like, sun trash. You know what I mean? Rob Markman, New York been super grimy for a long time. Like come on. Shot 97, that shit turned from Hot 97 to Shot 97. Mad shootouts. Rob Markman, wrong team bumping to each other back then? Shootout. That's crazy for me now, thinking about how Manhattan is now and shit. Niggas, it's a lot of cameras now.

1:14:24Poe after 9-11 and all that. It's a lot of cameras.

1:14:28Tony Yayo:Hell yeah, there's numerous shootouts in front of Hot 9. They moved the building, but to be at Hot 9-7, like Summer Jam and all that, even Summer Jam, that shit, it's still what it is. Shout out to Hot 97, I love what they doing. But like I came up, to me, I came up in the hip hop game in nostalgic times. That's how I feel. You did. Shit was nostalgic. You know what I mean? Like Fifth Hat, Hotta, Rob. It was just a whole bunch of shit. Nostalgic times going into the 90s to the early 2000s. That shit was nostalgic. You had Big Pun. I remember when Big Pun diss 50, that shit was fire. Like, damn, nigga, Big Pun diss you fire?

1:15:08Tony Yayo:Shit crazy. Crazy. J Dishy? What? Niggas was just hype cause we ain't... Niggas was something. Niggas was work. Something at work. We like, damn, this shit fight for her. Cause fit for market and genius. Rob Markman 1 ,040? Yeah, nah, that's legend. Know what I mean? Fuck it. Yeah, I'm just gonna start with everybody. Rob Markman 1 ,040. Myrdy, your shit was like, your shit was going crazy on them DVDs. That was the first shit, right? Yeah. Insta, yeah. That's the fact, yeah, you talkin' crazy. Rob Markman 1 ,040. I was looking at the shit with him in French, the, you heard me? You heard me? Yeah, I'm in French.

1:15:39I need to make this. I need this video, man. Shout out to Fritz. The DVD era was crazy back then, man. I ain't gonna lie. Listen, Brooklyn nigga - Rest in peace Chris Lighty. He gave me a shot, man. Rest in peace Chris Lighty. You gotta understand this about Brooklyn nigga.

1:15:53Tony Yayo:Brooklyn nigga's gonna make a way, dog. Chris Lighty from Brooklyn? Nah, he from Harlem, I think. Bronx. Chris Lighty was from the Bronx. Yeah, he from the Bronx, BX. What I'm saying is, like, murder's a nigga like, I couldn't believe that he was managed by Chris Lighty. Rest in peace. Like I don't know how he made that move happen because Chris Lighty had, you know, he had fucking Diddy. He had LJ. He was hard to get through type shit. He had murder. Murder Ultimate Street niggas, 50 Cent. But like me, we was there because of Fifth. You kind of was there like making moves. So how you did that?

1:16:23Tony Yayo:Murder making moves. You know what's crazy? Cause shout out to Mike Lighty, his brother. Okay. Shout out to Mike Lighty. That's my boy. Actually shout out to Cutmaster C too, man. Rest in peace Cutmaster C, man. Nah, man. You always know. Yo, man. man, rest in peace Mr. C. Your cut is alive, man. Cut Master C is alive. The mixtape DJ, my band. I keep fucking up with that. I don't know why. He was cool with Mike Lighty at the time. You didn't say Cut Master C just now? No. Yeah, I said Cut Master C and you said rest in peace. No, but Mr. ... It's Mr. C. But I think Mr. C. It's rest in peace to Mr.

1:16:55C. I know Mr. C, but I think Mr.

1:16:57Tony Yayo:C was called Cut Master C too, but go ahead. No, I don't think Mr. C was ever called Cut Master C. I think the Big Daddy came. We have to look at it. We have to look it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. how far you go back, you kinda young in the 80s, I don't know. Rob Markman - I know Mr. C though. Rob Markman - Yeah, you know Mr. C. Rob Markman - Cut master C, go ahead, Queen. Rob Markman - But cut master C used to be fucking with Mike Lighty, and that was Chris Lighty's younger brother. And he used to be always feeling my music. So one time he worked at Ballator, so he just had me up at Ballator, and I'm just up in there.

1:17:27This was a little while after the office that got shot up. Remember Ballator office that got shot up here? So I'm just walking around in there and I got my hammer, my gun. I'm just walking around in everybody's office. I'm popping my head in everybody's office in there. Thumbs up there with Chris Lighty and I got my music. Thumbs up in there, popping my head. Yo, what you do? What you do? What you do? You think I'm playing Chris Lighty, God bless. He's just standing up in the hallway and he watching me pop in and out of everybody's office. So when I get to almost by where he was at, he was like, yo man, who you?

1:18:00I'm like, oh, yo, my name is Murda, man. Who you? He said, I'm Chris Lighty, man. This is my office, man. What are you doing?" I said, I got some music, man. I'm just trying to get my music to whatever. I said, I'm here with Mike Lighty, man. Trust me, I got that shit, Chris. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, you Chris Lighty. Oh, I got that shit. Chris, you hear me? Yo, I'm just letting everybody in here know I'm that nigga, man. Word up. I know your office got set up and all that shit. Yo, I'm a shooter too, you know what I'm saying? I sold him my gun. I'm like, yo, I'm letting you know I'm official, Chris.

1:18:28Word up. He's like, yo, I'm gonna tell you something. He said, you got the music? He said, yeah, look. The way you talking, he said, let me tell you something right now, man. I'm going to listen to your CD. If I give you a call tomorrow, that means I like your music. If I don't, I don't want to see you at my office no more. Right? I was like, for real, I said, well, you going to call me, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Give me the music and real talk. He called the next day. And then from there, I was just, I was violated. And that's how I got the rock for Chris Lade.

1:18:57Tony Yayo:Mike Light, they have the dream team. You had Chris Lighty. Mike Lighty. You had... That shit teed you up fast. Like once you got in there. You know what it was? With Chris Lighty, it was so easy to the labels and get the meetings. And I already had like a street buzz at this time. So with Chris Lighty, it was easy to set up the meetings. We going to see Epic this day. We going to see this one. We going to see this one. The crazy thing about it is at the time, I think Sylvia Rohn was probably... I forgot who she was with, but she offered us the most money at the time. But we just wanted so many options, then we wound up doing a deal with Jay Z, with Chris Lighty.

1:19:35But yeah, with him, he just made it easier. With Chris Lighty, everything was easier.

1:19:39Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - And then you got to think, when you look at Violator, right? You got the dream team. You got Chris Lighty, Mike Lighty, you got Claudine, you got Mona Scott that started Love of hip hop. Rob Markman, Shouts to Mona. You got James Cruz. Rob Markman, And then he had a relationship with Leo Cohen too. It was like Leo Cohen was like his plug too. Him and Leo had a real dope relationship. Look, and James Cruz and me and DC's wife, she was there. Yandy. Yandy was there. Rob Markman, Yeah, they had the crazy roster. Rob Markman, I forgot. What's the short black dude? My man, I'm bugging right now.

1:20:15Tony Yayo:I don't know if my man, he was there. They just had a dream team over there. Rob Markman, They did. They had Ella over there. They had K Slade, they had 50, they had Diddy. They was like 300 before 300. You know what I'm saying? Rest in peace, Chris Lighty. And then Mike Lighty was on the road with us. That shit was dope going over there. They had Freeway and all them signed to them. They had everything. Yo, he had everybody. You got to remember - Busta Rhymes. Yeah, Busta. They had everybody. They had everybody signed over there. It used to be crazy just going to the office. Y 'all used to like, in them days, I still go with an outfit two, three days, especially if I ain't get my burn out of it.

1:20:57But was y 'all able to... Y 'all didn't have to change up clothes as much back in the day, fair to say? Because it wasn't a picture every day, right? That's what it was on social media. See, nowadays shit fucked up. Now shit, if you had a good day outside, your shit is finished after that. Yeah, it's done. I was wondering about that, like if y 'all could save on clothes back in the day a little bit. Back in the days you got to remix a little more. Get the same throwback jersey off at three, four, five shows. Yeah, you could remix a little bit more back in the days. Nowadays, everything on social media, they got this bum ass nigga wearing that shit again.

1:21:25That's like you get a Louis jacket, you wear it one show, you can't pop out the next one. You get it like this bum ass nigga can't afford another one or he can't do this. It's like, damn. You want that microscope, man.

1:21:36Tony Yayo:Some niggas buy them Chrome hearts and wear them shits for two weeks. No, I'll do that though. Listen, the Chrome heart jeans is 10 bands. I'm wearing them shits for 10 years. I'm wearing my shit for two weeks, bro. 10 bands for the chrome. I'm wearing them shit for 10 years. Clothes is crazy because you'll meet your real rich friends and they got sketches and an Apple watch on. Let's be serious, bro. They got a million dollar kitchen. I done met people in the... Yeah, but sometimes I be seeing that shit online and people be like, yo, real rich people dress like this, that, and I'll be like, yeah, but real rich people don't got no saws neither.

1:22:09Tony Yayo:Bro, we met Tillman and that nigga had an Apple watch on. That man has... What he owned? Astros. 800 restaurants. He owned the Houston Rockets. The Houston Rockets, the Astros. 900 restaurants. That man had an Apple watch on and a suit. He got a suit though. That's cool. But if you got sketches or the - Oh yeah, sketches with a suit? If you got the hookah sneakers on and all that, I know you really rich in the hair. You go to the Hamptons, motherfucker got the hookah sneakers on. The hookah sneakers. It's great. People that's really rich don't care about material things. So hanging in the suburbs, you be looking at - Rob Markman, they care about houses and all that.

1:22:43Rob Markman, oh yeah, they have a million dollar kitchen. Rob Markman, I know what you mean, material shit. Rob Markman, shit like that, yeah.

1:22:48Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, you know, they have house money that's a kitchen. Or a motherfucker say, yo, I'm doing my backyard, I'm gonna spend 300, 400. Like, they don't really, they'll have, you know, nice suits and shit, but nigga will have the hookah sneakers on with the Apple watch. Rob Markman, yeah, that's a fact. Rob Markman, yeah, they're not buying APs and the Cuban links and they ain't doing all that shit. Rob Markman, no, watches is good investment, watches to me. Rob Markman, that's always a good investment. chain good investment but chain a good investment is up right now chain a good investment if you a rapper this is how look i'm gonna tell y 'all why but this is more money but this is for me this is why i say for me it's back and forth chain a good investment sometimes watch i think a little better because like when you really buy jewelry think about it it's an investment that niggas want to kill you for yeah but if you were rapping sometimes that that should get you a lot of business as a rapper like you walk into the spot and you got that on your neck sometimes people It immediately cuts out.

1:23:41Tony Yayo:I know how he is in the airport. Murder. Trust me. You ain't know. Murder. I don't know. For me, I don't know. I love jewelry. I know what you mean. It's investments, but I don't know. I'm more of like, I like the watches now. Like I think. Nah, the watches. You want your grown businessman shit. No, the watch. The watch doesn't lose any value though. Yeah, but what I'm saying is I could get a chain and might lose 50 ,000. Let's say I get a chain for 100 ,000 and lose 50 ,000 in value, but then I done made connections They earned me$500 ,000. So my shit really made me stand out. Now I'm talking to these people who just fascinated.

1:24:16Oh, you a rapper? Oh, for real? Man, I fuck around. Bust down a deal with them later for whatever it be. So I didn't specifically get my chain didn't ascend to whatever amount of money that the watch might have. But I was compensated for my shit. You better believe it. See what I'm saying? So I do believe for rappers we still need shit.

1:24:37Tony Yayo:We had 50 Cent. We had Eminem, Dr. Dre. So, like my face was the jewel. Yeah, face card. I didn't even need jewel. But that's the same though, yeah. That's how it is. We came up kind of - I told my man, one of the best hits about being a rapper too, and I ain't have the around the juggernauts, you know what I'm saying? But it's like one of the best experiences about being a rapper is getting free shit, bro. I love free shit. I love free food. I don't give a fuck. I like when I go to a restaurant and they're like, don't worry about it. Even if the shit was$17, to me, that be boosting my shit. I like free clothes, I like free food, I like getting in the club free.

1:25:12I like everything free.

1:25:14Tony Yayo:There's a catch 22 to everything in life, ladies and gentlemen. Cause you like that. I love free shit, we get cut the line, Mona Lisa, but when a nigga's trying to talk to you while you taking a piss in the bathroom at the airport, that shit gets ridiculous. It's a catch 22. Nah, I'm just saying it. Am I lying? Rob Markman But you gotta be in the, you gotta go to the, you in all them shits with the guest lounges and you could just go to the private doors and shit like that. Rob Markman, Sometimes we walk to the gate. We always first class. We might walk to the gate. We don't get bougie all the time.

1:25:44Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, I still eat beef. Rob Markman, I be taking you as bougie now, yay. I be taking you as like, when I'm thinking yay, you see he like, now fuck the jewelry. Rob Markman, No, people take that as me being like bougie. It's not. It's just, what I'm saying is to me the best experience is flying the world. Like being in Morocco, once we Rob Markman, we had a four seasons. It was just built for the Olympics. Shit was experience, a vibe. My man, he called the Moroccan mafia. We had the good buds. The food was hitting. They had smoked duck for breakfast. Paris, look. Paris, look. Look, I'm going to tell you, I don't want fame.

1:26:20Tony Yayo:Look, I tell you all the time, Murda, what I tell you. I don't want fame like 50 and a half. Rob Markman, yo, how many, like, smoked duck, they got you unanimous with that on the end. And how many times, that's just a repeat meal like McDonald's to me? Nah, it's just not that. Me and Murda was in Morocco. Yo, he's a one person famous for smoked duck. You boosted that shit's revenue. Me and Murda was, we was at the Four Seasons, brand new shit, Morocco. Definitely, that's the Four Seasons in Morocco. His man's grown a bud, they had that shit for breakfast. I'm like, that's where the smoked duck shit come from.

1:26:53Tony Yayo:But what I'm saying is like, 50 Eminem fame, they can't really go outside. They're going to get, ah, ah, man. They can't do nothing. I like my fame because we get to go out, go see the Mona Lisa. Yeah, yeah, murder. We're going to get a couple of those. We good. I'm smoking. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I'm good with my fame because I want to still, I don't want to be in the hotel all day. You don't want to go to the Louis store shopping. You don't want to hit, go see the Mona Lisa. Security new niggas. Facts. One time we went in a hotel, we was in Norway or somewhere. Motherfucker came playing Rod Diggs and Uncle Murda.

1:27:33Tony Yayo:I couldn't believe it, nigga. I said - Where was we at? Belgium? We was in Denmark. We was in Denmark. Nigga came through, white boy, Rod Diggs, Murda. I'm like, yo, my dad. Yeah, that's me and Rod Diggs. Just us coming outside to hit a joint on the humble. Nah, that's hard. We be touching the fans. Them niggas love us overseas, so we be out. We be chilling. That's the best blessing in this rap shit, like traveling. I always - Rob Markman, and they're just getting to meet people around the world that fuck with your shit. Rob Markman, Yeah, that shit be different. Rob Markman, And it be, look, it be a nigga that...

1:28:00Tony Yayo:What I like about overseas is they don't let hip hop die. Like America, oh, yo, we done with you. When you go out there, you catch J.Ru. Rob Markman, It's still up, yeah. Rob Markman, Look, you catch J.Ru the Damager. You catch New Edition. You catch fucking KRS-One. Niggas, oh, we love them. Like they don't let hip hop die. Like they don't give a fuck 80s, 90s. So it be different out there. Like, motherfuckers, the niggas that got five on it, them niggas get bread. I got five on it. Yuck Mouth, yeah. Shout out Yuck Mouth. That's my dog. Five on it. That record. Them niggas tour. Forever. Forever.

1:28:35That's a big weed record right there. That shit be different.

1:28:37Tony Yayo:Them niggas be in the Swiss Alps doing shows and all that. I got five on it, that shit is still getting show money. Facts. Niggas have shit on them and be like, don't know what that is in America. Let them niggas go to Germany and all that shit. Finland, niggas be torn getting a bag. That's what I like about overseas and being out there, because they love hip hop. Told y 'all ran into J-Roo to damage it, nigga. You don't want a buck, what? Remember that shit? Niggas be running into them niggas. KRS-One, you running into them niggas. That's crazy. That's lit though. Because it's not microwave music.

1:29:13Tony Yayo:See, that's the whole thing. Yeah, it's forever. It's forever. It's 20 years later, 50 still doing shows. 2023, Live Nation, 103 shows. Rob Markman, I got rich off, get rich and die 20 years later. Rob Markman, Niggas be like, where's his money now? Niggas be like, where's his music now? His music now, nigga just did a hundred, you know, a Live Nation paid him. There's only a handful of niggas that can do a Live Nation tour. It's not, you know what I'm saying? It's a handful of niggas. Niggas ain't getting that kind of bag like that, bro. Not even me. I ain't getting that back. Live Nation. That shit is a handful of people.

1:29:48Tony Yayo:Cardi B right now? Live Nation. Cardi B tour on fire. Shout out to Cardi B. Gotta get to that level to get a Live Nation tour. It's not just an easy thing. Live Nation, yeah, yeah. Even getting known overseas, you'd be surprised who they know and don't know when you get to like Columbia and DR and shit like that. Because a lot of people, there's a lot of rappers I'd be like, so-and-so? They be like, no, Snoop Dogg. Yeah, Snoop. Snoop, yeah, they know Snoop. They know Snoop. They know Snoop. They know Snoop. They know Snoop. They know 50. They know M &M. That's what I be trying to tell you. That M &M shit went so far for me that I be in a random place like that and a waiter or something be like, M &M.

1:30:30Like, you know what I mean?

1:30:35I'm true. They be like, fuck it. Yeah. That's what's up, dude. That's the shit.

1:30:40Tony Yayo:That's what bugged my head out, is just to come home out of jail and feel blessed, man. Lived in Battery Park, come out my building, see the Statue of Liberty. We come from nothing, nigga. So for me, I always was humble and then, nigga, picture you being in a party with Jim Carrey, nigga. This nigga from the movies and shit. He dancing behind you, you laughing. Wesley Snipes, the Kardashians. I done met everybody. Rob Markman, Jr.: Did shit. Yeah. Except for Michael Jackson. Who kid? Shout out to who kid. Who kid met? And Tony Brov made Michael Jackson. Rob Markman - That's tough. Rob Markman - Yeah, I never met Michael Jackson.

1:31:12Rob Markman - I beat a Mike, man.

1:31:14Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Man, I never met Mandela. I know 50 of them met Mandela. Too many niggas were fitted going to Mandela crib. You know Violator was like, too many niggas. Snows a Mandela. But I got to go to a cell and all that. It was like 30 niggas. Everybody was feeding him. That was a Mandela. Niggas was hype. Word. 50 of them got a chance to meet him. But I didn't get a chance. It was like, nah, too many niggas. Rob Markman But you got to go to a cell, so that was cool. Rob Markman Yeah, got to a cell and all that. See, those experiences you can never take from me. I lived three lifetimes already.

1:31:45Rob Markman Nah, you were out of travel. Rob Markman I lived three lives already, bro. Rob Markman That's how I feel like the rap shit is too. Because when my shit started even kicking off in 2021, from 2021 to 2025, I feel like each year was like seven years, like dog years, kind of, but in a good way. You know what I mean? Because it gets to the point you can't remember what you did like five days ago. I be telling bro, I be like, anything after 72 hours, I don't remember that shit, because this shit be a blur sometimes. You know how it be like - Moving and grooving, man. Yeah, moving and grooving.

1:32:15You can't even remember shit. But then at the end of that 365, I be having to go through my camera roll, and I be like, damn, I did wild shit. And I've been for like three, four, five years. These have been the best years of my life ever. Real shit. Oh, God. Real shit. Bless y 'all. And I reached the level that I want to, but I'm happy. We're like, we're, you know what I'm saying? You still want us to be honest, man. Hell yeah. You want us to be honest, man. That's the best part of us. That's a long time to go, man. You got to.

1:32:41Tony Yayo:We definitely want to hear this Al B Al project. Hopefully, you get a Leaf Ward verse. I hope he come home soon. Listen, I believe - I ain't going to lie. Y 'all three? Y 'all three on the project? Man, that like risk takers, man. I believe so much in them stamping like, Leaf Ward is the best lyricist in America under 30 years old by far. And I put whatever on it. I support that. I put whatever on it. I support that. Rob Markman, anybody under 30 here will smoke your fucking boots. I agree. Rob Markman, and he really don't try. He just go to the studio, drop shit, casual, and it goes, because it's that pure.

1:33:15Rob Markman, if you don't know about Leaf Ward, tune into my boy Music. He's definitely on that shit. Rob Markman, he gonna be home soon.

1:33:20Tony Yayo:Like I said, Murda put me on the Leaf Ward. He put me on the Albi Al before he came home. Rob Markman, but I ain't gonna lie, that's fire that y 'all tapped in with music. A lot of the older generation, sometimes they tap out of music. I never wanted to do that because they say after 30, it's a scientific study that 90 % of people stop listening to music and just go with what they know. I'm telling you, that's because y 'all, you know what I mean? Y 'all really into the music. A lot of people would just say, all right, these 30 years, I'm going to just go with whatever songs I acquired over now.

1:33:50And they kind of block off new music. But there's still people out there rapping their ass off to this day, making amazing music. I'm up on your shit. That's why I hired you to get on the pitch. I know who talking that shit out there. Rob Markman, you know what I'm saying? Rob Markman, I know who talking that shit, man. Come on, man. We got two things to ask him. Rob Markman, What's that?

1:34:08Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, We do some things when we say who our artist of the week is. My artist of the week, New York City, I got to give it up to Cardi B because she's on tour of Live Nation. Rob Markman, Shout out to Cardi B. Rob Markman, Shout out to Cardi B. Rob Markman, Who's your artist of the week right now? Rob Markman, My artist of the week? Rob Markman, Besides, if you ain't bumping your own shit. Rob Markman, What that mean? Rob Markman, What's the category for? It don't matter. If you ain't bumping your own shit, who you just riding around bumping? If you ain't listening to your own shit, who you bumping right now?

1:34:34Tony Yayo:Who you fuck with right now? I ain't going to lie. I was just listening to Tor Tate. No, Tor. He from Philly. T-O-U-R-E. Nah, you put me on to him. I never heard of him. He talking crazy. He started his shit. He said, dudes want to know why everybody can't go. Same reason as two seats and a Lambo. That was his first two bars. I said, all right, yeah. Let me tap it with that. So, Tor. He from Philly. The best rappers pound for pound I feel like come out of Philly as a whole. New York might got 10 of the greatest amazing people, but Philly got 200 super amazing solid rappers. But yeah - Rob Markman & We them biggers in Philly talk they shit too.

1:35:14Lil Buck's another one I've been listening to. And then I listen to No Cap all day. That's somebody, No Cap and Rilo Rodriguez. I would really tell East Coast people to bend your mind to go listen to they shit, because they got a lot of double, triple entendres. They just harmonizing it. So it might throw you off. The auto tune might throw you for East Coast. But when you listen to it, you're going to be saying, hold on, he just said that? And they incredible artists. But my artists of the week, I'm going to say, yeah, I say no cap.

1:35:44Tony Yayo:Rob Markman You said a couple of people. Rob Markman I said four, right? Rob Markman Yeah. Rob Markman Yeah. Rob Markman I'm thinking of who I was listening to. Rob Markman No, that's good. No, that's dumb, bro. Who your artist of the week? My eyes right now I'm not gonna even hold you is Pooh Saisty. muscles 100 00 There you go. all right, are you switching up there? You switched? Mona Anaился2 I'm not gon' lie, I'm Pooh Saisty. He said, puss 100, free pooh sisD. I'm Pooh Saisty down right now. I been working out cause I got a gym in my house. I've just been working out to Pooh Saisty lately, man.

1:36:14I'm not gon' hold hold it. I'm pooh Saisty. FDO, free pooh Saisty.

1:36:19Tony Yayo:FDO, free pooh, Siisty. Rob Markman, on my Al B.I.L. tape, we just recorded like two nights ago. The night this shit happened, I said something, something. My youngin' waved a 30. Free Poo Shiesty, these record labels, 30. You know what I mean? I got one of them bars off. Nobody tried to get the ball off first. Rob Markman, we need this one, baby. You know what I'm trying to get it first. You was the first one with the Dirk Slime for Bob. I remember that. I remember that. Rob Markman, and it's just to show love to the artist in live time. That's what it is. I ain't trying to capitalize just how my mind works.

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Millyz pulls up to The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda for a raw, unfiltered conversation covering his come-up from Cambridge to earning a major co-sign from Jadakiss, building real business with The Lox legend, and dropping his melodic R&P project. He breaks down going from freestyles to international stages, navigating independent vs. major label decisions, and staying consistent with new music while expanding his sound. The episode takes a wild turn as Millyz and Yayo recount a tense trip to Haiti that escalated into a real-life kidnapping scare involving cash demands and a high-speed escape, before diving into industry talk on Eminem, 50 Cent, freestyle culture with Funk Flex and Sway Calloway, and how hate, pressure, and experience shape an artist’s grind.

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