In short
Havoc of Mobb Deep discusses remembering Prodigy after his death, touring Europe with Infinite, and reliving key East Coast beef moments—especially Tupac’s “sickle cell” line, the “LA LA” era, and Jay-Z’s “Takeover” Summer Jam trolling—plus early Mobb Deep origin stories and club/battle experiences.
Guest backgrounds
The episode is hosted by Joey Dardano (comedy/rap podcast host). The main guest is Havoc (Mobb Deep rapper/producer). The transcript also includes references to other iHeart podcasts, but the substantive interview is Havoc speaking with an interviewer.
Key claims
- “Shook Ones” was built from Havoc’s Queensbridge beat-making; “Part 2” became the club anthem.
- Havoc says he and Prodigy were already friends from high school; Prodigy was “the wild one” even then.
- Havoc claims Jay-Z’s “Takeover” and Summer Jam moment escalated the Jay-Z/Prodigy/Mobb Deep tension; he calls it the first “troll” like that.
- Havoc says Prodigy’s “ballerina” picture used by Jay-Z came from someone connected to Prodigy’s grandmother’s dance-school circle.
Notable examples
- Europe tour countries listed: Stuttgart, Bulgaria, Prague, Paris, UK, Ireland, Sweden, Amsterdam, Turkey.
- Studio anecdotes: weed left on a table during a session with 50 Cent’s circle; Havoc says 5th made them bring it back.
- Club stories: performing “Shook Ones” in the New York Tunnel; “no chain” rules and violence.
- Lost Boys show: Havoc describes a first-ever show with Lost Boys on 23rd Street and later street fighting between entourages.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTribute to Prodigy and Mobb Deep
1:33 to 3:40
Discussion about Prodigy's legacy and Mobb Deep's impact.
“The story I've told myself can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection.”
Recent Tour Experience
3:40 to 5:07
Havoc discusses the recent tour and audience reactions.
“One of the best rappers from New York City.”
Sobriety Reflections
5:07 to 7:54
Conversation about sobriety and its impact on creativity.
“Shout out to all the countries in Europe.”
Studio Memories and Early Days
7:54 to 10:33
Recollections of early studio experiences and challenges.
“I mean, you know, that's that QB shit, you know what I'm saying?”
Creating 'Shook Ones' and Its Impact
10:33 to 14:02
Havoc shares the story behind 'Shook Ones' and its significance.
“I remember going to the club when Shookwinds came out.”
The Impact of Shook Ones Part Two
14:02 to 14:59
Learn about the significance and creation of Mobb Deep's iconic track.
“But that was like the main one that was in the clubs.”
Recollections of Tupac and East Coast-West Coast Tensions
15:00 to 17:46
Explore the tensions surrounding Tupac and the East Coast-West Coast rivalry.
“When You Need To Give It Up came out with the Scarface shit.”
Early Experiences with Lost Boys and Rivalries
17:47 to 21:34
Discover Mobb Deep's early interactions with Lost Boys and neighborhood rivalries.
“I know they got a thousand niggas with them.”
Lost Boys and Early Performances
21:35 to 25:11
Hear about the first performances and competitive spirit between Mobb Deep and Lost Boys.
“It's like, it's a little, you know what I'm saying?”
Internal and External Conflicts in Hip Hop
25:12 to 28:00
Discuss the conflicts between various hip hop groups and the politics of the industry.
“So I could've fought y 'all niggas back in the day.”
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The Origins of the Jay-Z and Prodigy Beef
28:00 to 29:15
Learn about the backstory behind the feud between Jay-Z and Prodigy of Mobb Deep.
“I don't know if Murda remember this, but this is how I viewed it.”
Summer Jam and Its Impact
29:15 to 30:41
Explore the significance of Summer Jam and its role in escalating the rivalry.
“And I kinda understand that because y 'all did rep.”
Jay-Z's Tactics and Prodigy's Response
30:41 to 32:38
Discover how Jay-Z's disses impacted Prodigy and Mobb Deep's career.
“because we was overseas when we heard about it and the Summer Jam screen and all that shit.”
The Legacy of Mobb Deep's Music
32:38 to 33:59
Examine the lasting influence of Mobb Deep's music in hip-hop culture.
“So Prodigy probably took some lessons or whatever.”
The Creative Process Behind Mobb Deep's Hits
39:51 to 41:22
Insights into the artistic process of Mobb Deep's music production.
“you start with the npc because i know you had the npc back then right yeah yeah yeah so what what What made you start?”
Influential Samples and Techniques in Mobb Deep's Work
41:22 to 42:00
Discuss the sampling techniques used in Mobb Deep's most famous tracks.
“See, I didn't make the Shook Ones part one on the MPC, but when it was time to make Shook Ones part two, I was introduced to the MPC and I just loved that shit.”
Behind the Scenes of 'Quiet Storm'
42:00 to 43:10
Learn how Havoc sampled and created the iconic beat for 'Quiet Storm'.
“He got the song and he used Prodigy's Beware Akila Kid.”
Growing Up with Nas
43:10 to 44:30
Havoc shares memories of his childhood friendship with Nas and their early days in music.
“and I left it in the computer for like a month.”
The Competitive Nature of East Coast Hip Hop
44:30 to 45:50
Explore the dynamics of competition in hip hop, especially between Brooklyn and Queens artists.
“Like he made it first, I made it second, me and P made it second.”
Mobb Deep's Legacy in the Game
45:50 to 47:20
Havoc reflects on Mobb Deep's impact on hip hop and their relationship with other artists.
“Might have to say pause and I'm like, damn.”
Coping with Loss in Music
47:20 to 48:20
Havoc discusses the loss of Prodigy and how it has impacted his music career.
“Jay had to get at the Queens niggas because it was the takeover.”
Remembering Killer Black
48:20 to 48:45
Havoc shares his memories of Killer Black and the influence of his legacy.
“No matter what we went through, you know brothers fight.”
Tupac's Influence and the East-West Coast Rivalry
48:45 to 51:10
Discussion about Tupac's diss tracks and the tensions between East and West Coast.
“Cause y 'all said - We felt like we knew him, because you always said, Rest of the Beats kill a black.”
The Complexity of East Coast Alliances
51:10 to 53:00
Dive into the relationships and rivalries among East Coast rappers during the golden era.
“Nah, I never even really, at that time, I didn't listen to the whole album, but then I later...”
The Biggie and Nas Connection
53:00 to 55:20
Exploration of the relationship and competition between Biggie and Nas in hip hop.
“They never had a record, so we had to stop.”
Production Stories from the Studio
55:20 to 56:00
Havoc shares stories about his production work, including classic tracks.
“Rob Markman, And what year Shookwins came out?”
The Nas and Biggie Collaboration Debate
56:00 to 56:50
Exploration of why Nas and Biggie never collaborated musically and the competitive nature of hip-hop.
“Why you think Nas and Big ain't have a record?”
Memories of Classic Tracks
56:50 to 58:10
A discussion on classic tracks from the era, including Brooklyn's finest collaborations.
“I made that right in the studio, right in front of everybody.”
Club Culture and Iconic Tracks
58:10 to 59:10
Recollections of the club scene and how iconic tracks influenced parties and rivalries.
“Because I done been in parties and see niggas Southside!”
The Decision Not to Sign with Puff
59:10 to 1:01:00
Discussions on the potential signing with Puff Daddy and the implications of that decision.
“Nah, back in high school, me and P used to be going to check Puff sometimes.”
Hip-Hop Fashion and Image
1:01:00 to 1:03:00
Insights into hip-hop fashion choices and how they reflect the artists' backgrounds.
“Y 'all think we're that shaming suits on.”
The Evolution of Violence in Hip-Hop
1:03:00 to 1:05:30
A conversation about the changing nature of violence within hip-hop culture over the years.
“When you think about the wave, it's like when you looked at you, Nas and Prodigy, the army jacket kind of shit came from the rock.”
G-Unit and the Mob Deep Experience
1:05:30 to 1:10:01
Reflecting on the experience of signing with G-Unit and the dynamics of the collective.
“But, Merck, what I'm saying is there be times where niggas will have beef and they want to violate the good old - Yeah.”
Havoc's Stage Fall Story
1:10:01 to 1:11:11
Havoc recounts a dangerous incident during a performance.
“And niggas was like, yo, where the fuck is Havoc?”
Reflections on Hip Hop's Evolution
1:11:12 to 1:12:29
Havoc shares his thoughts on the changing state of hip hop.
“I was on Fed Parole and State Parole, and they let me go on that tour.”
The Future of Mobb Deep
1:12:30 to 1:14:28
Havoc discusses the potential for a new Mobb Deep album and Prodigy's legacy.
“Anybody in their malls could put out a song.”
Tributes to Prodigy and Family
1:14:29 to 1:15:41
Havoc pays tribute to Prodigy and acknowledges his family.
“Yeah, shout out to Kiki and Tasia and the son.”
Transcript
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2:34Tony Yayo:It's crazy. You told some deep shit, man. Paws. Paws. Everything is a pause. So if you say ball deep, that's pause too? Nah, ball deep is cool, right? Okay, all right. Nah, it's not a pause. It's not a... I'm thinking about that. I'm not. I didn't get stabbed. Go ahead and shut the up. Okay. Brovers! Brovers! What's that point? You get movies with? Oh! Rebel! Yo, bro. All right. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
3:10Tony Yayo:Yeah, it's the talk of New York, Tony Ayo. It's the boy Uncle Murda, a.k.a. Lea J. And right now, we got the top five Dead Alive rap group from New York City, Mobb Deep, and rest in peace Prodigy. And we got the top five best producer from New York City in this mother. Make some noise for having you. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man. Appreciate you, man. Thanks for coming through. Have you already, boy. Thanks for having me. Rest in peace Prodigy. Absolutely. Always. Mobb Deep never dies. Shout the whole Prodigy family. Condolences to Prodigy. Definitely, man. One of the best rappers from New York City.
3:46Tony Yayo:Definitely in the top five. Lyricist. Mobb Deep top five group. You know what I'm saying? We got Havoc here. We gonna get right into it, man. How was it overseas? Because y 'all gotta understand, Mobb Deep never dies. You understand? Mobb Deep never dies. I told him to call out that next album that. Mobb Deep never dies. My man just came off a 40, what was it? 40 country tour? Talk about the tour, man. Rob Markman, Some shit like that. Now the tour is crazy. We was celebrating the Infinite album. You know what I'm saying? We just put that out in November. Rob Markman, Definitely. So it was only right that we went out represent for Marv Deep, represent for Prodigy.
4:22You know what I'm saying? And the feedback was crazy man. Like for real, for real. Like -
4:26Tony Yayo:I mean, cause how many years is now? I mean Marv Deep was out before G-Unit, before Uncle Murda, before a lot of mother - True, but you know what though? It don't necessarily mean that, that don't necessarily mean that if you make a new album that niggas gonna fuck with it. Not even in Europe. You know what I'm saying? Like, so if you going out there and they singing the choruses with you on some new songs, like, because, you know, I'm used to going out there, you know, singing some Marvel, Chook Ones and all that. You know what I mean? Classics. And then sometimes you might do a new joint and they just be like this.
5:01You know what I'm saying? Looking at you like, what the fuck is this? Or because they don't know the song. It's not like they don't like it, but it's just that they don't know it. But they was vibing with it. So, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to all the countries in Europe. And where you went?
5:13Tony Yayo:You went to, I remember you was in Germany, shout out to Storm, shout out to Mobb Deep. I think Noy was with you. And y 'all was in Germany, I think y 'all was in Stuttgart. Name some of the places you went. Tell me you passed for a game too, man. Mobb Deep is worldwide. It's not just a New York City. Passport game. Passport game. I need one of them chains. Man, we was in Stuttgart, we was in Bulgaria, we was in Prague. Rob Markman, of course Germany, Paris, UK, Ireland, Sweden, Amsterdam, Turkey. Rob Markman, M.O.B.D. I mean, the list goes on. Rob Markman, M.O.B.D. That's why I say murder, M.O.B.D.
5:50Tony Yayo:M.O.B.D. Never dies. I remember being on tour when 51st signed M.O.B.D. in M.O.P. And I remember the first day, he was like, what you think? And I was like, nah, these are two classic groups in hip hop culture. What was that like for you when y 'all had the twin Porsches, acting the fool, we on anger management tour? Yeah, yeah. Because I know you don't drink no more. You used to get wild off the licks though. I know. I was crazy. How long you been sober for now? I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's been a while. I would say like three years. Three years. Congratulations on that, man. Congratulations on that.
6:21Thank you. Well, maybe stop drinking though, man. What the fuck? Because you know why? You know, when you get older, you got to focus. You know what I'm saying? Got you. And then you know that shit don't be hitting like it was with you in your 20s or your 30s. That shit take like five days to wear off. You know what I'm saying? So you be like, I be stuck to the bed like for like four days and I got shit to do. But when we first got signed.
6:47Tony Yayo:Remember that time on anger management where you stood up on the pool table like, fuck that man, it's my shit nigga. Yo fuck all y 'all niggas. It's me, baby. He be making shit up. Yo, no, fuck all that shit nigga. I'm not making that shit up, man. Fuck all that shit, nigga. I'm saying you do that. And then, yo, yo, look. I swear to God. It's word to my father. Look. I took your shit, man. Yo, look. He on the pool table. Fuck y 'all niggas. Because when he get drunk, he get violent. You know what I'm saying? Fuck y 'all niggas, man. Yo, yeah, yo. That's why that niggas stop drinking. Yo, fuck y 'all niggas.
7:15Tony Yayo:Yo, then my son just passed out and the security had him like a baby. Right, right, right. Had him like this. I never forgot that on tour. One time I had a drink in my hand. I swear to God, I went to fight Hav that day. He don't even remember. I had a drink in my hand and you crushed a drink in my hand. Like, nigga, you ain't drinking. Yo, when he get drunk. Yeah, Hav, I'm glad you did that to that nigga. Yeah. But for me, I was tight. Because Hav, when he get drunk, he get out of line, son. I'm fucking with you, yeah. Yo, he was on that pool table, fuck y 'all niggas, man. Yo. He get angry, bro.
7:52Tony Yayo:He get angry. Why you stop drinking, nigga? Okay. You get crazy. I mean, you know, that's that QB shit, you know what I'm saying? Got you, got you. You know what I'm saying? Got you. You know what I'm saying? We get our drink on. I guess that was the Henny. Yeah, the Henny. That was the Henny, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you see us in the Shook Boys video with the Henny t-shirts on, you know what I'm saying? That shit was, you know what I mean? Matter of fact, y 'all started the Henny wave when you really fucking think about it. Us and Nas, you know what I'm saying? We fuck with that. Tupac mentioned that.
8:17Nah, I was on that handy too. But y 'all was on that handy early. See, now I can't fuck with that handy though. Know what I'm saying? I don't even trust myself. Got you. I know how you get in there. I told you. I be like, Dad, when you wake up and motherfuckers be like, Yo, I gotta talk to you, son. You be like, Dad, I don't even wanna fucking hear you. Got you. You know what I'm saying? So you got the Hab right now. You know what I mean? You got the Hab right now. You know what I have?
8:42Tony Yayo:I was saying, I remember the first time before 50 Sound, and we was in the studio with them. And it was wild because I forgot who was in the studio. It was - It was like 40 of y 'all. It was like four, it was me, Smurf, Banks, Mad Niggas, right? So who was the two niggas in there again? Was it - It was me, Gotti. It was Gotti. Somebody else, I forget who it was. And what's the name? It was Gotti and somebody. It was two of them in there. Yeah. And they left they weed on the table. Yeah. I think you told - Smurf went and took they weed. I remember that. They came back, I'm like, yo son, you wildin'.
9:14Tony Yayo:He went and took they weed. Like when did they weed and shit? I'm like yo, this nigga wildin'. That's crazy. We in the studio with Mobb Deep. He took the weed and them niggas started arguing like, yo son, you touched my weed? Yo, that shit was the cracker. But I was, I'm laughing, but I'm like, damn, we in the studio with Mobb Deep right now. Cause like the history of Mobb Deep is what I told him. This is what I told him. They started arguing with each other. They started arguing with each other like, you took my weed. They ain't one thing Smurf took it, but we was smoking they shit. That shit was fucked up.
9:40Tony Yayo:You know what I'm saying? but you know you know you know how I remember it it was y 'all came in the studio 5th recorded the song boom boom boom he bounced and the weed was gone so we called y 'all and y 'all made one of them niggas bring the weed back see I remember that see you remember that 5th made the nigga bring the weed back I don't know if it was I don't know who it was cause 5th get tight that shit like that nigga took his weed come on man He made niggas bring that shit back. Look at that. See, there you go. He made niggas bring it back. Wild Tops, like I always just played in a stork, because stork, though, though.
10:20Tony Yayo:You know murder, because Queens get the money. I love all the Brooklyn rappers. But, um... Man, this guy go. When you look at Mobb Deep, right? Like, rest in peace, my man, Fat Shower, DJ Rough Hands. I remember going to the club when Shookwinds came out. I don't care if you're a Brooklyn nigga, Bronx nigga, Staten Island, Long Island, Harlem, wherever, upstate, wherever. When Shook Ones came out, you knew it was going to be like a fight or a shootout or something was going to break out. It was like blood sport music. You know what I mean? I know they got songs called Blood Sport, but how did you feel when Shook Ones came out?
11:01Rob Markman - Man, that was that shit right there. That was -
11:03Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - How did you feel? Rob Markman, what was your craziest club experience performing shit? You gonna say the tunnel? Because y 'all was around tunnel time. And for you kids that don't know, you couldn't wear a chain in the tunnel. They been in chains. Niggas was checking your shoes. Niggas was getting thrown through. Security was thrown through. Niggas threw glass fucking doors. It was the wildest club in New York City for you YNs that don't know. Rob Markman, The tunnel was cool, but you know, the tunnel was like, you know what I mean? It was, it was, it was, you know what I'm saying?
11:34You had to be on your A game cause Cruz was in there and all that. But when we performed Shook Ones in the tunnel, you know what I'm saying? It got a little wild and all that, but it usually be like out of state when niggas just be wild and like, you know what I'm saying? Like Minneapolis, Minnesota, you know what I'm saying? Y 'all was only 19 when y 'all came out with Shook Ones, right? Yeah. We was like 19. That's crazy when you think about it. Younger. Younger. Younger. Younger.
11:59Tony Yayo:Everything come together. Well, I met Prodigy in high school. You know what I'm saying? The high school of art and design. You know what I mean? I was in there one year before him and then he came in the next year and I used to hear that nigga coming up the hallway. That nigga used to have like jewelry, like slick, wreck. Like for real, for real. I mean, like in high school, I used to be like, damn, like who this nigga walking through like jewelry and nobody not fucking with him and shit. You know what I'm saying? But we had, you know what I'm saying? mutual friends and and then we became cool but he was a fly even back in high school like like for real for real he he he was the wild one he used to bring the crazy horse to school we'd be drinking saint oz in the cafeteria you know what i'm saying like he used to be bringing all that to school but yeah rfp that that's my brother man yeah for real so what studio y 'all did shook ones in how did that that was the first song would you say that that was the first one?
12:58Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I made the beat, shook ones in my crib in Queensbridge in my mom's apartment. Yeah, I made that in there. You know, everybody outside playing ball and all that shit, I'm upstairs just making the beat. And like, I ain't really think nothing of it to be honest with you. You know what I'm saying? I'm a new nigga making beats and shit like that. So I'm just like, all right, you know what I'm saying? Beat up there, whatever. Niggas came upstairs like, yo, what's that? I was like, ah, you know what I'm saying? Some track about to, you know what I'm saying? Turn the shit off. chill you know what I'm saying we took it to the studio we took it to I think like Battery Studios cause you know Job Records they had a studio called like Battery so we took it in there and P came with the hook matter of fact we did a Shook Ons Part 1 first you know what I'm saying and it was alright you know what I mean it was like alright you know what I'm saying this is cool and so we needed to do a remix and that's why I was like, you know what I'm saying, trying to make another beat for it.
13:57You know what I'm saying? And I came up - Yeah, it was.
13:58Tony Yayo:Now when you look at the list, it was like three Shook Ones. Cause it's called Shook Ones Part Two. Yeah, Shook Ones Part Two. Yeah. But that was like the main one that was in the clubs. Right, right. Absolutely. Absolutely. So that wasn't the first one you made? Nah, I made, I had made one before that. It was just, you know, just regular Shook Ones. So when you made the second one, I know you was like, oh man, this shit's sick. Man, like it was like a dream come true. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know what I mean? You, it's like if you playing in the NBA and you trying to get that chip.
14:26You know what I mean? Sometimes when y 'all caught one with that shit on record, it was like, oh shit, we got it. Rob Markman - We from the ground, from the gutter. Rob Markman - Facts. Rob Markman - You know what I'm saying? And we made a fucking hit song. You know what I'm saying? Rob Markman - That shit going crazy on the radio every day, the video every day.
14:42Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - But I always say, Havoc was Kanye West before Kanye West because it's It's rare that you got a rapper that rap and produce like Dr. Dre or Kanye. You know what I'm saying? There's numerous or Swiss. You know what I mean? But it's so many beats have, there's not even a top five for beats. When You Need To Give It Up came out with the Scarface shit.
15:11We don't give a fuck. So it was like...
15:18Tony Yayo:And this is what I'm trying to tell y 'all. It's not microwave music. This is music that lasts forever like Michael Jackson and Maud Dewey. And you know, it lasts forever like Slick Rick and KRS-One. So it's like I just said, he came off a 40 date, country's date. rest in peace without Prodigy. Right. Know what I'm saying? Now, if Prodigy was here, rest in peace and Prodigy, if Prodigy was here, it would be a fucking problem. Mop D went through eras of hip hop when New York wasn't glazing. I'm gonna keep it real. I'm not saying they glazing now, but you had niggas like Haitian Jack running around, Tut running around.
15:56Tony Yayo:It was extortion kings out this motherfucker. Facts. Know what I'm saying? The tunnel was a movie. Know what I mean? Talk about the era of the beef with Tupac when Snoop and them had LA LA. Did they really get shot at in New York? Snoop? Yeah, of course. In Brooklyn? In Brooklyn? And then y 'all came out with LA LA. Because that was the original first - I was so happy when y 'all came out with that LA LA. It felt like nobody in New York wanted to do nothing at that time. I was so happy when y 'all came with that shit. Now Murda, let me finish. I'm going to let - Go ahead, brother. Just let me finish.
16:30So when LA, cause look, when LA and LA came out, gentlemen, gentlemen. Rob Markman - Get the fuck out of here with that gentleman shit, nigga.
16:39Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - When LA, LA came out, y 'all, like he said, y 'all was the only niggas that said something. The beat was crazy. And Prodigy, Tragi, Gaddafi was on that one. You, niggas was going crazy. Rob Markman - All we knew is Snoop came to LA, got shot at. So that was like - Rob Markman - Yeah, that was, y 'all was in between the East Coast, West Coast beef. before Pac and Big. How was that? And Pac did, you know, when he did Machiavelli, was it Machiavelli he said Prodigy had sickle cell? Yeah. That was Machiavelli. Yeah, I mean, that was like, nobody knew Prodigy had sickle cell to Pac did it.
17:15Tony Yayo:What's the temperature like? What's going through Mom Deep Head and niggas through Queensbridge and all the gangsta's heads? When you that young, you like 18, 20, 21, that shit is like fun to you. You know what I'm saying? You like, well, come on, fuck it. Let's get it pop. Oh, let's go. Let's go. Yeah, it's on the pop. Fuck it. When we see you, we see you. Like, you know. Of course. You don't care about the shit. You don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? So it was just one of those things. I kind of like, I figured that that beef was probably going to get real. You know what I'm saying? If we bump heads, you know what I mean?
17:46Because it's pop. Of course. Of course. He older than us. You know what I'm saying? And he going to be like, talk. You know what I'm saying? We got a thousand niggas with us. I know they got a thousand niggas with them. it just probably wouldn't have been good. Like, you know what I mean? But it never happened. You know what I'm saying? It never happened.
18:02Tony Yayo:You ever ran into Tupac? Never, ever. I seen him once when I was like 16 at, what's that called? Jack the Rapper or How to Be Down. Oh, so this was before all of this. That's all right, copy, copy, copy. We was just, you know what I mean? I think we was on 4 for Broadway, you know what I mean? Trying to get our feet wet. And you know, you seen Tupac, because he was even famous back then. Yeah, yeah, facts. You know what I'm saying? We just kids in the background and shit just looking like, oh shit, there go Tupac. And that's the only time I ever physically laid eyes on him. There's a picture online with Tupac and you see Prodigy all the way in the back.
18:41Like word of mother, like pee. Oh, word? Yeah, pee in the back. So we was in the same room with him and shit like that. Oh, look at that. That's crazy. Nah, it's ill. But even then -
18:52Tony Yayo:Then fast forward, he dissing y 'all on Machiavelli. You know what I'm saying? Because back then, we loved that beef. That was something of a - We loved it too. Oh yeah, that's a pause. My pause. We loved that static pause. We loved that static. So hold on, when Biggie had What's Beef, was that a pause? Huh? That's a pause now? What's Beef? If I'm singing that in the car? If we going on today's rules and how things go, that might be a - When's the pause meter coming for this guy? I'm just saying. Rob Markman, Jr.: Huh? Oh, no, that was for pause. Even the producer saying that was for pause. We love that static, my bad.
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19:34Tony Yayo:But when you think about it, y 'all was beefing with Tupac. When y 'all in the studio and you chilling, you in Queensbridge, I know niggas in the like, we gon' kill Pac. I know a couple of niggas like, can't wait to kill these niggas. They come to New York. I know it was all kind of shit. Like, because back then, you was getting wrapped up into the action. Like I told you, Mall Deep, look, I'm from 134 and Guy Brewer. I was pitching all night. You know, I'm the type of nigga, when everybody say they leaving, I get happy because I know I'm going to get all the money. There's no competition. So the whole boulevard was going with the Lost Boys.
20:08Tony Yayo:Rest in peace, Freaky Ty, his brother J-Ball, B-Wild, you know, all these niggas from 134 going to show. When they come back, you know, a couple of niggas got scratches on them. You know, my man Sunshine had blood. He had like a BB, BB, one of them BB belts before the time. It was like, just some wild looking shit, but he look like you could beat a nigga with it. He had blood on it. I'm like, yo, what happened? Niggas like, we had a bro with Mob Deep. I'm like, word. So I would have been there if I would have went. You know what I'm saying? I told him that. Talk about that Mob Deep Lost boy, bro.
20:41Tony Yayo:I was talking to him on the phone about that shit. Yo, this actually was like - That's crazy. This actually was our first show ever. It was like our first show ever. And you know, Lost Boys was on the bill. It was on 23rd Street. I'll never forget it. You know, everybody from the projects happy. Like, oh shit, y 'all got a, Maltese got a show. The whole projects is going. You know what I'm saying? Oh, Queensbridge. Like literally. Was y 'all feeling Lost Boys at the time? Like, oh, so we about to do some shit with Lost Boys? All niggas was like, man. They was in their own zone. I can't even remember if I even knew who they was, to be honest with you.
21:14I don't know. Maybe I... Yeah, I think I heard of them because they was like from South Jamaica and all of that. Oh, so this was before they had their record popping. No, they was popping at that. Yeah, they might have had something out, but... The Renate shit and all that. They had Lex Cruz, Beavis in the Benz and all that. Yeah, yeah. That was it. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't no beef between us and them. It wasn't no beef. But it's that thing, right? Like Queensrys, Jamaica, Southside. It's like, it's a little, you know what I'm saying? It's a little something to be there. The competition, a little ego.
21:45So you really like, all right, whatever. You ain't jacking really what they doing. Not that it's beef, but you ain't even checking for it like that. It's like we cousins, but like, you know what I'm saying? Like trying to outdo each other and shit. Cause everybody knows Southside is wild. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Southside. The lowest point, we from this side of Queens, but you know, but we still go out there and chill and hang out. I remember one time being out there when we was on 4th of Broadway. it was this place called the Noddington House. You remember that?
22:10Tony Yayo:Yeah, Noddington House. The Noddington House. Some little party was going on over there and we was in there. It was like, fuck it, yo, go get the mic. Go rap on the mic and shit. All right, fuck it. So get up there, start freestyling. We basically in the back of 40 projects or some shit like that. You know what I'm saying? So we rapping. All right, cool, that was cool. Get off the mic. The niggas from Jamaica got on the mic. Niggas from Jamaica got on the mic. They was like, you'll be like, fuck all that Queezma shit. We all looking like, we like, oh, it's on. But nothing happened. Nothing happened.
22:46It was like, all right, fuck it. It was some hip hop. I'm going to talk about the Lost Boy fight. Rest in peace, freaky time. I'm going to talk about the Lost Boy fight.
22:54Tony Yayo:Because I would have fought y 'all niggas back in the days if I would have went. Son, you would have had to know karate. The niggas would have beat you up. You would have had to know karate. You niggas would have nobody beat you up. We had karate niggas with us. We had karate niggas with us. Be wild, we be tired of niggas, was crazy karate niggas too. J Bull, I done seen flog check niggas. They didn't come back that twisted where y 'all beat the shit out of you. You just said they came back twisted. Now let my man have - I said my man have blood on his belt. Now let my man have tell a story, man.
23:24What happened? Cause you wasn't there, bro. So, nah, you know what happened? We performed or whatever it is, they performed. But you know, niggas from the projects, they still lingered around and probably one niggas, bump one nigga, and then it just was like a battle royal, you know, in the streets. Niggas was cutting niggas, niggas getting cut back and you know what I'm saying? I already had bounce. I already had left, because you know me, I just do the show, grab something, out. Did any of your niggas come back a little bruised up? Of course.
23:53Tony Yayo:Yeah, everybody, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, a couple of niggas, come on. I'm just asking my nigga, I'm asking the question. Yo, what's it, man? Niggas from my hood, them Lost Boy niggas was brawlers. Them niggas wake up in the morning, drink Devil Springs and fight, nigga. Ha, ha, ha, every day, nigga. I'm telling, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, nigga. It was a, it was a... Niggas just fly kicking mall, nigga. It was a, it was a... I said, J.B. The half said he don't know about that. I don't know about that. The half said, I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. One, three, four, nigga.
24:23I'm telling the nice, nigga. I was there, nigga. You trying to be nice. I'm telling the nice, nigga. I wasn't there. You trying to OD, nigga. I wasn't doing it.
24:32Tony Yayo:You done had beef to the stage, nigga. So Havoc stuffed me back in the days. Yeah, right. That happened to me, though, too. Look, security, you know, big house. He's the size of the room. That nigga took me down in one of them clothes before. Pause. Pause. I just said, my nigga. Yeah, my poor, yeah, yeah. Nah, but he did some like, not pause. He did some like, he did some like sweep shit. His man sweep me. And then I fell to the ground. and then he just, he had a nigga down, pause. Know what I'm saying? My house is like 400 pounds. But look, fast forward, he shady Eminem. Right there, it's no love.
25:12Tony Yayo:So I could've fought y 'all niggas back in the day. Oh my God, he still wanna say it. But look, but look, but look, to this day, mad cool with Freaky Tire in them. Wrestling beat Freaky Tire for sure. Facts, facts, facts. Mad cool with them, like, you know, bumped into them so many times. And for a long time, it was just like beef for no reason. Cause it be niggas from your projects, niggas from they projects. You know, sometimes the rappers be the cool ones and shit like that. But when there's too many niggas there, somebody gonna bump somebody and it just be. Was Queensbridge ever cool? What's the other project I'm bugging?
25:47Tony Yayo:Next to Queensbridge, what is it? Ravenswood? Ravenswood. Y 'all never got along, no? Yeah, nah, nah, nah, we was kinda cool. You got niggas from Ravenswood in the entourage too? I'm sure like a couple of Ravenswood niggas was there, but you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know the politics now, you know what I'm saying? But back then it was kind of cool. You know what I'm saying? I think Queensbridge and Wavenswood is still beefy. I mean, you know, I heard some stories, but I don't know. You know what I mean? So how was the tunnel? You got any bros in the tunnel? How was the tunnel? What was the temperature like in the tunnel?
26:20Tony Yayo:Like, performing? Tell me the old tunnel stories. I want to hear the shook ones. First time they performed in. I want to hear the second time y 'all was in the tunnel. Did you see anybody get robbed? Cause I know they had the no change shit. Yeah. Check your boots and. Couple of, I mean, see look, Chris Lighty was at the door. So we was getting in with shit. That's a bitch. You know what I'm saying? RIP Chris Lighty. Niggas have a cheek cold. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know what I'm saying? So he was letting us in with it. You know what I mean? So we was just cold. You know, we was chilling. Nothing never really jumped off.
26:49You know what I'm saying? That I could remember. You know what I mean? But the tunnel was a dangerous place. Very dangerous. Now, talking about back in the days, the beef the mob had with Jay-Z, right? Pause. Do you think that was good or bad for hip-hop at that time? What you think? I'm not going to say it was bad for hip-hop. You know what I mean? Because, you know, hip-hop is a contact sport. Pause. Right? Right. Okay. You want a point? I caught that one.
27:20I'm getting it. I'm getting it. But for me, it was just kind of unfortunate because I'm like one of those people that I be hoping that niggas could get along and join forces because other states be like that. You know what I'm saying? They be, you know what I'm saying? They be team. Clicked up for real. You know what I mean? And New York is like one of the few places that niggas don't be really together like that as a force because New York is so separated. Automatically, as soon as we born, the boroughs. You from Brooklyn. Queens, definitely. It's like some people don't understand it. You know what I'm saying?
28:00Tony Yayo:I don't know if Murda remember this, but this is how I viewed it. I feel like Prodigy and E-Money Bags, rest in peace E-Money Bags, rest in peace Prodigy, was trying to debo Jay-Z that time on the radio. That's when Jay-Z had an artist called H-Money Bags, if you do your homework. I'm a Maze Money Bags. And E-Money Bags was a gangster. Everybody know niggas, him, Harmo, and Troy could take over the whole Queens when they had them things in their hand. Right? Cool. E Money Bags was on the radio. And Jay Z had an artist named H Money Bags and Prodigy put them on the phone. Isn't that how the beef started?
28:36Tony Yayo:The static? I mean, pause. Rob Markman - Nah, nah, that's not how the beef started, but that probably escalated it. You know what I'm saying? What happened was, like we was talking about LA LA, right? Like, we made the song LA LA and then Jay-Z did an interview somewhere, Prodigy saw it and I guess they asked Jay-Z, you know, no matter of fact, Jay-Z made the song talk about like New York been soft ever since Snoop kicked the buildings. Got you. But Prodigy felt like we wasn't acknowledged for making LA LA. How could he say that if we made LA LA? You know what I'm saying? Look at that. So Prodigy kind of took it personal.
29:15You know what I'm saying? And I kinda understand that because y 'all did rep. Y 'all rep. And we didn't really get no recognition for that. You gotta be like a hip hop fan to really know about the song. To know that y 'all came back like that. You know what I'm saying? Because the song ain't really, you know what I'm saying? But on the street level, on the streets. The streets knew what was going on like that. But you know what I mean, like on the radio. I know what you mean, copy, copy. On the radio like that.
29:37Tony Yayo:I mean, to me it didn't matter because the DJs was grabbing it. Rob Markman, true. Rob Markman, like once Snoop and them had New York, New York, big city of dreams. Y 'all came to, y 'all this record was like maybe three, four, eight, maybe a week later, couple of days later. So I remember my man, rest in peace, Rough Hands, had that joint. Man, LA, LA, big city of dreams. Rob Markman, So that's crazy from there. That's what it was. Probably niggas felt like they ain't getting no recognition. Rob Markman, Right, because Jay Z did an interview and then in the interview, no, no, no, no. They was interviewing Pete, you know what I'm saying?
30:11They asked him about Jay-Z, you know what I'm saying? And he just went off. And he called Jay out his name in the magazine, and then Jay caught that, and then that's when the takeover.
30:24Tony Yayo:How did you, where was y 'all at? And how did you feel? Cause the takeover was fine. He's coming at Nas, he's coming at everybody. Nah, I mean, you know, Jay is ill. You know what I'm saying? Well, how did you feel? Like, yo, fuck that nigga, I'm going in the pool? of course, because we like, whoopped him after that. You know, I don't know, that shit just felt crazy because we was overseas when we heard about it and the Summer Jam screen and all that shit. And we was like, looking at each other like, you already know what it is. Like we gotta get in that booth and just go crazy. Go crazy, that's.
30:54You know what I'm saying?
30:55Tony Yayo:I think Jay was in this mode at that time. That's when like, now I know he's not saying this and everybody is crazy, but when you really think about it, Jay was the most disrespectful nigga. Nas, y 'all, you know what I'm saying? He went in. You little fucks I got money stacks bigger than you. He went in. And then he had Hot 97. Shout out to Hot 97. They was jacking him. They was working with him. They was letting him do what he want to do. He had the upper hand. He had the upper hand. He did. Jay always, he be a good businessman. I remember Hot 97. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He went to 105. Yeah.
31:29He went crazy. He went crazy.
31:31Tony Yayo:They didn't want to let him hang Jay. And then you got to think about it. When Jay put Prodigy on a Summer Jam screen, that was the first time a nigga really trolled. Some shit like that, yeah. It was kind of. That was the first troll ever. You was a ballerina, I got the pictures, I've seen you. Yeah, that was crazy. Rest in peace to P, but people don't know his grandmother was like one of the most biggest dance choreographers in the world. But that was O.D. though, because he wasn't even dressed like what Jay described, you know what I'm saying? But everybody jacked it, you know what I'm saying?
32:06He just was at the dance school with like a Michael Jackson jacket on, like all of us probably wore, you know what I'm saying, at his grandmother's dance studio. But Jay, he milked it. He was like, oh, I see you, ballerina, I see you. But it wasn't like that. Okay.
32:25Tony Yayo:Come on, bro. I know because Prodigy grandmother in Queens is one of the biggest dance teachers back in the days. In Jamaica, Queens. So as a kid, in Queens. So I know mad people that family, everybody went to the school. So Prodigy probably took some lessons or whatever. But how did Jay get the picture? That's number one. Easy. That's easy. No, not even money. Not even money because somebody that went to Prodigy's grandmother dance school was really tight with that. circle right there. It was really tight with that circle. You'll kind of try to guess who that is. I ain't dropping no names now.
33:05It's over now. But they went to the school and they was right in that circle. I told P, I said, you already know how they got that.
33:16Tony Yayo:Somebody in his camp went to the school to get the pictures. Yeah, and they got that. So they went to the studio and gave that? Rob Markman, it was a good chess move. It was a good chess move. Rob Markman, Jay is smart. We know Jay is smart. He's a dumb guy. But it was definitely a good time at war. But I felt like Mobb Deep was one of the classic groups in New York City at that time. Rob Markman, Of course, of course. Rob Markman, So I feel like it kind of built Jay career when he was dissing niggas. Rob Markman, Yeah. Rob Markman, I'm not saying he wasn't nice. He had shit, but come on. Takeover, I remember when that came out.
33:46Tony Yayo:I was living on Springfield Boulevard. I remember when that shit... That was like a big diss record. Rob Markman, The Takeover. Rob Markman, You know what I'm saying? And then Hot 97, everybody done over there. It was a fun time. I haven't done wanna hear that shit. Nah, it was a... Nah, I like it. I'm keeping it real. Cause you talking about the other shit big deal. I haven't heard. That's my man. I know.
34:12I'm just keeping it real. I know, but I'm just keeping it. Nigga don't wanna hear that shit right there.
34:21I'm reminiscing. I'm reminiscing. I'm reminiscing. I think it's terrible. Fuck that asshole. I wish Ab was on that Henny nigga. He would've crushed your fucking cup, right? He would've grabbed your fucking cup and said, listen nigga. Shut the fuck out. I like you drunk more. I like you sell more.
34:36Tony Yayo:Nigga would've been like, yo, shut the fuck up. You got my nigga half cool right now. Nah, I can't think about it. Look. Yo, look. Look. This is how I look at Mobb D. Queens all day. Queens get the money. You know what I'm saying? You know. Rob Markman, Well you're acting like you're from Brooklyn right now. I'm chugging because that nigga have over here. Rob Markman, No, what I'm saying is, hey, this is the point. If the best niggas in the game, if Tupac and Jay-Z get at you, what that mean? That means you're the fucking best. Rob Markman, No, of course. We know that. We know the history. Rob Markman, If Snoop and him is getting at you, you the fucking best.
35:07Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Of course. Rob Markman, So I'm here to talk about the history of MobbD for people that don't know. They beef with Pac. They beef with... When Pac said P had sickle cell, we waiting on the P this record. We waiting on the fuck. You better believe it. We waiting on the fuck. But we dropped Joppa Jim on him. Of course. That's what I'm saying. Of course. Of course. And that shit was a hit. And I, but what's so crazy, he died like two weeks after that. He died like two weeks after we dropped it. And the record was picking up. It was. It definitely was. It definitely was. He got signed and then he died.
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38:58Hey, everyone. It's Ryder Strong. And Will Friedle from Pod Meets World. And now the Pod Meets Twirled podcast. We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV. Who now have covered Dancing with the Stars. Traitors. And we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of Survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Yeah. Just because we... Yeah. we'll be recapping the big conclusion of the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of ha oh again we are experts so make sure to tune into pod meets twirl for all our survivor 50 takes listen to pod meets twirl on the i heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so when you started making like what what made
39:57Tony Yayo:you start with the npc because i know you had the npc back then right yeah yeah yeah so what what What made you start? Because you're not regular. You know, we had producers, you got dudes that made What Up Gangster. Rob Markman Hicks Right. Rob Markman Hicks That was, to me, his biggest shit. Even Punch That Made Seductive, I feel like some producers just, I'm not going to say they one hit producers. Rob Markman Hicks I mean, they get that one big record. Rob Markman Hicks They get that one record. It's still a big record to give them recognition. But what I'm saying is, how do you stay consistent?
40:27Tony Yayo:What's your thought process making a beat? because you're definitely like top five in producers. You up there with Swiss, Timbaland, you up there with Just Blaze, you up there with Eminem. Like what the fuck, like what's your process? When you getting that energy from the hood, you know what I'm saying? That energy is crazy, you know what I'm saying? So it's powerful, you know what I mean? When you trying to make it up out of somewhere, you know what I mean? and and you focused and you're not going to parties and you're not doing none of that you're just like man it i'm working on this music so you know what i mean i that's that's how it came so you make it you make it survival and you come with the next album you make a hell on the earth you know what i mean and then after that you you you make it it's mines and quiet storm and all those things it's just like it's momentum you know what i'm saying and you just you just keep going and And the reason why the MPC is because I love technology.
41:25See, I didn't make the Shook Ones part one on the MPC, but when it was time to make Shook Ones part two, I was introduced to the MPC and I just loved that shit. Like, you know what I mean? I really loved it and I just used it with a keyboard and that. And I stuck with it. You know what's crazy?
41:41Tony Yayo:When you say part two, that's really part one, because the other one I don't really listen to. We only listen to the part two. Yeah, part two, that's the main one. That's why I was bugging when I was playing it the other day in the car and I'm like, It do say part two on there. I was bugging. It's a rare, it's a rare, it's a rare jam. Nobody even really know that until you look at the albums. Yo, you know what? You'd be surprised. You know that song by Big Pun? What's that song? He got the song and he used Prodigy's Beware Akila Kid. Yeah, yeah. That was exactly what you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:11That's from part one. That's from part one. Look at that. Okay, that's crazy. I gave you fair warning. Beware. Beware. I gave you fair warning. That's what's what I was. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so what was your, what was the thoughts when you made Quiet Storm?
42:29Tony Yayo:Cause that's another one. I was in my crib. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what sample is that? That's White Lines. That was White Lines? By Sugar Hill Gang. That shit was crazy. I ran out of samples. How'd you chop that shit up? How'd you chop that shit up? I ran out of samples. I was just, I was like, damn, I listened to all the records already and I'm looking at, But you know, the Sugar Hill Gang, we all know the beat, you know what I'm saying? We love the song, but it's like, you can't really do nothing with it. It's just like, it's a record just dead in your ass. I said, fuck it, man. Let me just, you know what I mean?
42:57So I put the record on. I said, what could you do to this? And I just slowed this shit down. Yeah, I slowed it. Because the record is fat. I just slowed it down. And then I got the Triton keyboard and just did some keys on it. and I left it in the computer for like a month. No lie. And then P used to come to my crib every day, go down straight to the basement and just be listening to the beats that I made. I'd be upstairs asleep. And I came downstairs, he's like, yo, what's this? I was like, you know what I'm saying? Whatever. You always was confused about something too, right? P was from Queensbridge?
43:31No, P was from - Long Island. Left rack. Left rack and Long Island. Left rack and Long Island. Okay, copy, copy. But when he came to Queensbridge, I mean, that nigga soaked that shit up like a sponge. Rob Markman, copy, definitely. Rob Markman, I seen an argument online. Somebody, two motherfuckers was arguing with each other saying I was from Long Island and P was from Queens. Rob Markman, Got you. Rob Markman, Got you. Rob Markman, That's how much, you know what I'm saying, P embraced the hood.
43:56Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, Yeah, because they said P from Hempstead, Eric B from Long Island. Rob Markman, I know Rod Kim from Long Island too. Rob Markman, And did y 'all know Nas before all that shit? Like before? Rob Markman, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rob Markman, Before the whole rap thing took off like that? Rob Markman, Yeah, yeah. I knew Nas since I was about seven, eight. Rob Markman, All right, copy. You know what I'm saying? We used to go to the same daycare together, all of that. And then I hung back out with them when I was about like 14, 15. We used to hang out, shit like that. I knew his moms, you know what I'm saying?
44:22I knew his brother and all that shit. So when y 'all started making music and all that shit together? Well, you know, we didn't really make music together until like both of us made it, you know what I mean? Like he made it first, I made it second, me and P made it second. And you know what I mean? Nas jumped on, he jumped on iPhone now. Rob Markman, dude. Yeah, yeah yeah. Rob Markman, ooh, I, we in this together. Steven got Brooklyn niggas on it. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. You know the mama is right. That's why Jay had to get at the mall. That's why Jay had to get at the mall nigga.
44:59Tony Yayo:Come on, they was the greatest, you know? Let me blow shots at these niggas. What? You know what I'm saying? Let me blow shots at knives. Cause Brooklyn, was Biggie out yet? Rob Markman, Big NJ. I saw y 'all really, y 'all had Big NJ. But niggas know Queens, we like Nas, we can't forget about Capone and Noriega, Tragi Qaddafi. Queens was running shit at that point. So you had to, but the mob, but out of everybody, Tragi Qaddafi, all them niggas was fired, but the mob deep was like, everybody know, like I said, a lot of niggas, even Brooklyn rappers, none of them really had... Some of them Brooklyn rappers don't got blood sport records.
45:41Tony Yayo:Like, Shook Ones was like... When that shit came on in the clubs... Because I've been in... Things you gotta understand, I've been in every club that been shot up. Every Hole in the Wall Club. Rob Markman, How about some hardcore? Yeah, we like it raw. Pause. Might have to say pause and I'm like, damn. Rob Markman, That was fun. Y 'all got that one. Rob Markman, That record was fun. Rob Markman, M.O.P. Rob Markman, M.O.P. Rob Markman, M.O.P. Rob Markman, Brooklyn nigga. If we have a poll, pause. I guess. Rob Markman, You caught yourself. Rob Markman, Shook Ones was real murder music. Rob Markman, No, it was.
46:15Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, When that came on, it's time for DJs to pack up. You heard Eddie? It's time to pack up. That's when you know, oh shit about to get shot up. These niggas in here. Oh shit, it's crazy. Pack up the records. Like you know, when that shit come on. In the first, it wasn't, the thing that makes Shook Ones a Hall of Fame killer record is because when that shit come on, that's when you start packing up. A lot of Brooklyn niggas don't got shit like that. Shut the fuck up, yeah. I tried to tell him that's fight music. Prodigy, come on, Prodigy really was on the same level as Jay. Jay, he got at it because the best get at the best.
46:53Tony Yayo:Mobb Deep, look, Tupac was mentioning him. Come on, nigga. The Takeover was about, the Takeover was the... I always told nigga back to him. Rob Markman, P was a discourse dog. He was talking that shit for real, boss. P used to be talking that shit. Rob Markman, Illuminati got my mind, soul, and... We didn't even know what Illuminati was back then. DJ, don't get me whacked over there, because DJ's Illuminati. He only eat peanut butter sandwiches. Illuminati shit he be doing over there. But he was like, Illuminati got my mind, soul, and my body. Secret society. Come on, man. Jay had to get at the Queens niggas because it was the takeover.
47:27Tony Yayo:Don't keep it real. That's why he called it the takeover. Think about it. He got Nas and Mobb Deep the whole record. Rob Markman - You back to that, my nigga? I'm just saying you back to that. This nigga went back to that, Hal. He went back to that. That's my thing. Rob Markman - Hal, all I'm saying is the best. Look, the best had to go at the best. Rob Markman - Of course. That's hip hop. That was hip hop, man. Rob Markman - I said, we're a competitive sport. Rob Markman - Yeah, it's a competitive sport. Rob Markman - It's a competitive sport, man. Rob Markman - We battle tested. Rob Markman - Mobb Deep got classic albums.
47:55Rob Markman - Battle tested. You know what I'm saying? Rob Markman - Hall of Fame. Rob Markman, so how has life been really a little bit as far as the music shit and just everything overall like without project. Cause I actually met his daughter one time, shout out to his daughter. She was doing music and all that, shout out to her. Shout out to his son too. Rob Markman, how that whole transition been like still trying to make the music and all that shit? Man, it's very, very different. Like, you know what I mean? It's like night and day, like, you know, I'm still trying to do what I do, but you know, So losing, it's like, not light.
48:26You know what I'm saying? I lost my brother. You know what I'm saying? No matter what we went through, you know brothers fight. You know what I'm saying? Niggas go through shit and whatever, whatever. But you know, every time I think about it, you know what I'm saying, it fucked me up. It fucked me up. Cause you know, I lost my real brother in like - Killer Black. 97. How was Killer Black?
48:48Tony Yayo:He was a crazy nigga. Cause y 'all said - We felt like we knew him, because you always said, Rest of the Beats kill a black. You ain't lying about that, you repped him a lot. That's a fact. Rest of the Beats kill a black. What was the shit about? What was the shit? I think when y 'all was talking about the drinks. Can't take me, man. Drink away the pain. Y 'all had so much, like, that's what I'm saying. Marv Deep just got, I'm still bumping Marv Deep in the whip, dog. No facts. I play that shit. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie. The beats, like, yeah, beats. I be trying to tap in sometimes, you know what I'm saying?
49:16Of course, of course. think about, you know, to talk to my 19 year old self, just listen to it real quick and shit like that. But yeah, yeah. Rob Markman 1 '2": Yeah.
49:27Tony Yayo:Rob Markman 1 '2": Cause y 'all niggas made some hits. Only one you didn't make was Shout To Alchemist, Keep It Thorough. Rob Markman 1 '2": Which one? Keep It Thorough? And that was fire. That was fire. Rob Markman 1 '2": You know, cause you know how I be feeling like with production, I don't know, maybe I'm old school. I don't know. The beats was just different back then. Like It was like a nigga make a beat and nothing sound like that. Right. Like Quiet Storm or, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. Nothing sounds like that. Like you, come on man, you sampled the shit out of Scarface and Godfather.
49:56Tony Yayo:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like nigga, nobody was thinking like that. Godfather part three, what? I'm surprised. I'm Scar D. And yo, and the skits was crazy. You see that nigga right there? Yeah, right here, son. Yo, hit him, hit him, pause. Hit him, hit him, pause. Hit him, hit him, pause. You on point, you on point. I'm over here watching you on point. I'm 22 years. That's how the skin is. Hit him, hit him. Hit him, hit him. Hit him, hit him, hit him. Hit him, hit him, hit him. Everything's a fucking pause. Can't eat a hot dog? You gotta eat a hot dog at your own crib. Barbecue. You gotta eat hamburgers in front of you.
50:33Tony Yayo:You ain't lying. Everything is a fucking pause, man. I'm keeping it real, man. But what's that? What's that news? But the skin's was crazy. What's that news shit they be having all live with the Jamaican voice be in the back I got the Bhatti boy. Bhatti, yeah, you better believe it. You better believe it. Can't be playing out here nowadays, man. This shit too real, man. Everything is a pause, though. Everything is a pause. Go get the orange juice. Pause. Y 'all got to hit my dog. Wait, hold on. You got to say pause to get the orange juice? Yo, with this nigga, everything's a good orange juice.
50:59Tony Yayo:Nah, you good with going to get the orange juice, man. You good with that, man. You good. You good. Like I said, beefing with pop. That was crazy. So when y 'all heard the pop, when you heard Machiavelli, do y 'all like listen to the whole album when y 'all was listening? Nah, I ain't going to lie. You didn't listen to the song? Nah, I never even really, at that time, I didn't listen to the whole album, but then I later... But did you listen to the diss record? Of course you don't listen to the diss record. I listened to the diss record, but I later on found out that he dissed a song, like four songs.
51:28Like if you listen to the album, he was going in. That's just the main one that everybody heard. Heard, yeah, but he was taking a few shots. But if you listen to the album, you like, oh shit. He was really pissed. He was angry.
51:42Tony Yayo:Y 'all and Snoop was the first East Coast, West Coast drama. Yeah. Because it was like, you know how the West Coast is. West Coast, Best Coast, cuz. L.A. is L.A. They stick together. That's the way. Like Detroit stick together. New York, we used to stick together. Like you used to be New York versus everybody. I feel like it was like that a long time ago. New York versus everybody. When? I was talking about - Rappers used to come back in the Maldives days. rappers used to come down here and get booked, not get greeted and all that. That's not sticking together because niggas came out here and got robbed.
52:16That's different.
52:18Tony Yayo:Yeah, niggas used to come out here and get robbed, but niggas wasn't sticking together. But if New York goes somewhere, they was old then. New York is in the building. Niggas is wilding. Like it used to be like that. But you know what though? Niggas did used to stick together, but it was behind the scenes shit that never got recognition. Like, you know, Big and Nas, they visited each other's hoods before. But you never knew that. You start finding that shit out years later. Like just now, damn near. You start finding out how cool they was. But you never knew that. Big and Nas? Put it like this.
52:47Back in the days, you thought Big and Nas didn't like each other. The way I used to look at it, it felt like it was competition where they didn't like each other. From the outside looking there, you would have thought they didn't like each other, huh? But you find out years later, these niggas was cool, pulling up on each other, all type of shit. Right, in the beginning. They never had a record, so we had to stop. In the beginning. Yeah. Didn't they do a record for somebody? No, it wasn't them. They never had a record together. Biggie and Nas never had a record. Biggie and Nas, they never had a record together.
53:12Nah. I was thinking about Shaq, but who Shaq had to get on the record back in the days after that?
53:16Tony Yayo:Biggie, nigga. He got Biggie, but he had somebody else on it as well. He didn't have Nas on there. It wasn't Nas. He had two people on the record that never did a record together. Exactly. That's what I'm trying to figure out. He's the only one that did it. Look it up. It wasn't Nas. It might be Nas. It might be Nas. It might be. I don't remember no record with Biggie and Nas and Biggie. Biggie and Nas never had a record. Nah, but on the Shaq record, Shaq got two artists together that never did a record. That's what I remember from back in the day. It's something like that. I don't remember it being Nas.
53:45Tony Yayo:I would remember that. It might be. Entrepreneur, consuel, or with a connoisseur. Shut up, yeah, yo. What? All on one song. But they was on one song? There you go. What the fuck are y 'all talking about? Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. They wasn't on one song. Biggie and Nas was on a song together? What? Never heard of that. Which one? Which one? He's saying it was on an album, but they wasn't on one song. But they all on different songs. None of them was on a song together? No, Biggie and Nas was never on a song together, brother. Who Shaq had on the record? Who was it? Shaq featuring what?
54:20Because he had two people on the same record.
54:23Tony Yayo:It wasn't Nas and Biggie, nigga. I would have heard that record. It was Biggie? Yeah. Shaq featuring Biggie and who? If you're talking about that make it, that rain, You can't stop the rain. I was just thinking rain is only in second. Yeah, but that's on the album? Well, you know what? Yeah, you might be - Nas never did a song with Big E. It was a little something there. You know half, you just don't wanna talk about it. Nas come up here and talk about it. You know niggas, a lot of niggas was mad. Think about it. A lot of niggas was mad at Nas and Mobb Deep. We ran the game. Queens ran the game at that time.
54:57Tony Yayo:Like Jay and Big, they came, but come on, Mobb Deep was - Pause. Pause. Rob Markman, Yeah, yeah. Rob Markman, So Mobb Deep was before Big, right? Rob Markman, Y 'all blew up before Big, all around the same time? Rob Markman, No, no, no, no. Big came out first. Rob Markman, Because Big had Party and Bullshit in what year? Rob Markman, Big came out first, but we was out before Jay-Z. Rob Markman, No, but Big had Party and Bullshit, what year, dawg? Rob Markman, What year was Party and Bullshit? Rob Markman, Like 93. Rob Markman, I think that was like 9-4, 9-5. Rob Markman, And what year Shookwins came out?
55:22Rob Markman, No, no, no, no. It was 9-3, and then Biggie came out with his album in 9-4. Rob Markman, what year did Shook Ones come out? Rob Markman, 9-5. I mean 9-4, my bad. 9-4. 9-4. Rob Markman, And you said Biggie album came out in 9-4? His album came out in 9-4 and then we came out with Shook Ones in 9-4. Rob Markman, Damn, I thought Shook Ones came out before that. No, 9-4. And then we came out with the album in 9-5.
55:45Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, You ain't a crook son. Yeah, he's a Shook One. Rob Markman, You just a Shook One. That was that shit, man. Yeah, cause Queens was running shit. Nas and him and Jay, you know, now Biggie and Jay was on it. Yeah, Queens was managing, yo, Queens was managing. Now Brooklyn had it though. Brooklyn was running. What the fuck got it?
56:03Tony Yayo:Why you think Nas and Big ain't have a record? Something there. That's just competition. That's the ego. You don't know how them balls, Biggie had balls, but if Nas and Big was on a record, that's a debatable who got the best verse shit. That's a real debate. Of course that would've been a debate back then, man. Of course. Cause you had a song with Jay, which was a classic. What was that, 22? Brooklyn record. Brooklyn Finest. Yeah, that was. Brooklyn Finest. Brooklyn, me, Jay and Fab. How was you feeling on the I4N9? Cause that was the classic. Is that the song that go, Brooklyn? Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:36Tony Yayo:Nah, Brooklyn Finest don't go like that. No, no, you talking about Brooklyn Finest, that's with Jay-Z and Big. Oh, yeah. Oh, that one. Oh, that one. Yo, but how was it? You produced I4N9 too, right? Yup. Oh my God. I did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I made that right in the studio, right in front of everybody. this right there made the beat real quick that was in his bag on that did you produce more money more murder more homicide no oh I don't think so no I don't think so I don't think so I might have you sure I don't know I gotta hear it you know what there's a lot of beats that I did that I be forgetting what made you go in your Scarface bag on that one though cause we was watching that shit every day you used the fuck out of Scarface we was watching that shit every day we was watching it every day so I'm like yo This intro sounds crazy.
57:24Intro sounds crazy. So I made the beat in my head. Benita Applebone drums, Scarface V, fuck it, let's go. Nigga did smoke that shit. Niggas don't know.
57:31Tony Yayo:Yo, Benita Applebone is like such a classic from Queens, another one. I remember when that shit come on in the clubs back in the days. That's what I'm saying. Shook ones, that, like those, like, I don't know, man. Just for music, it was just a crazy times to be a young nigga in the club, man. and them shits come on. Like, I'm telling you, niggas getting their fucking eight ball jackets stolen and shit. You know what I'm saying? Niggas getting robbed for they shit once that shit. Come on, son. To all the killers and the$100 bellers. And that shit come on. Niggas ain't got no feathers. Niggas just...
58:09Tony Yayo:And then you... Because I done been in parties and see niggas Southside! Northside! I remember being in parties like that. Like, nigga, it'd be a whole bunch of Southside niggas. Northside niggas, and Merrick niggas or whoever. I've been in house parties like that. Dwar getting kicked in. Know what I'm saying? Because there was a lot of DJs around my way. Shorty Black, my man Low, Troy. They used to DJ mad parties. Know what I'm saying? So shit used to be. I remember a party at 127 Merrick. That shit came on. And I'll never forget that shit. To all the killers in the$100 bills. Southside niggas.
58:46Tony Yayo:Northside niggas. Ha! Shots start ringing off, nigga. Y 'all heard rumors before back in the day that y 'all was supposed to sign with Puff. That was true? Y 'all was supposed to sign with Puff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we used to - No, dead ass. We used to - Paul said dead ass. Right, Paul. My bad. Dead ass. Yeah, don't worry. I got you. Nah. Nah, it's getting ridiculous. Nah, it's good. I don't give a fuck. Go ahead. Nah, back in high school, me and P used to be going to check Puff sometimes. He had a club called like, it was like Daddy's Night or Daddy's House. You know what I'm saying? Some shit like that.
59:24Paws. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was getting ridiculous. I thought it was getting ridiculous, motherfucker.
59:34It was getting mad ridiculous. I'm surprised. Paws, motherfucker. Hey, yo. I can't. He just trying to say too much porn. No, no, that was crazy. She said daddy's night, daddy's night. Yo, as soon as I said it, I said daddy's night. I said, come on. As soon as I said it, I seen his eyes. She said daddy's night. Yo, son. I said it was daddy's night or daddy's. Yo, as soon as I said it, I was looking at it.
1:00:07Tony Yayo:I said daddy's night. I'm like, what is he talking about? Now that's some hoards. Rob Markman - Oh, so Mob D was about to be in shiny suits. Rob Markman - No, man. Rob Markman - No, man. Rob Markman - No, man. Rob Markman - No, man. Rob Markman - No, man. Rob Markman - He had a club night, man. You know what I'm saying? He had a club night. We used to go there, you know what I'm saying, and chill. Then we used to go to his record company and shit like that. He wanted to sign us, but you know what I'm saying? The deal wasn't right. You know what I mean? The deal wasn't right. and we ended up signing to what, Far From Broadway maybe?
1:00:43Something like that. That shit was whack. And then we signed with Steve Ripken like a year later. So that probably was the best, one of the best decisions y 'all made was not probably signing with Puff, correct? Yeah, because you already know he liked to control what the artists do as far as the music, how they look and all of that. We from the projects. Y 'all think we're that shaming suits on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. But I'm not, I don't think we would have listened to him. You know what I'm saying? I'm just going to be honest. If he would have been like, yo, put this on. I don't think we would have been like, nah, fuck that.
1:01:17Nah, we would have had our Timbs on.
1:01:20Tony Yayo:No, what happens is for the first time, you might throw the outfit on, like how Lox did back in the years. And then you're going to be like, no more shiny suits. Listen, listen. I mean, listen, it can happen to anybody. The Lox did it for the bread. I mean, they probably did it because it made sense for the record or whatever that they were shooting at the time. That's why they did it. because of what they were shooting at the time. And to be honest with you, what I'm saying is back then, look, Biggie and them niggas, they was known for that fly shit. Mason, look, Coogees and all that fly shit, the shiny suits, it wasn't the Locke's image.
1:01:52Tony Yayo:So that's why they said no shiny shoes. Maybe it might not have been the image, but I will say this, it was of the time. You understand what I'm saying? It was of the time. I didn't think it made them look crazy. Right, right. It didn't make niggas go, oh man, what they doing? It was cool. It said look they fly. But they still said no, they the ones that said no shiny suits, nigga. That was classic. They probably didn't like it at the end of the day too. That was classic hip hop. But what I'm saying is Diddy would have had Havoc and P and shiny suits. I don't think so, man. I don't think so. I'm telling you, we wouldn't have wore it.
1:02:31Tony Yayo:We wouldn't have wore it. We wouldn't have been able to come back to QB. Come on, son. We wouldn't have, you know what I'm saying? Not saying nothing's wrong with it, but I'm just saying, niggas is critical. You know what I'm saying? Like we wearing Carhartts all day, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The beef and broccoli. Because when you think about the Timberland wave, I know other, I think somebody was saying they did Timberlands first, I don't know who it was. But I know New York from New York, Timberlands, right? When you think about the wave, it's like when you looked at you, Nas and Prodigy, the army jacket kind of shit came from the rock.
1:03:10Tony Yayo:The army jacket with the line and the green shit. That's all we was around. That shit, them niggas had a style that was straight grimy but fly. It was affordable. I remember getting... It was affordable. I remember everybody got the 10 army jacket green, black with the 10 Timbs. You was crispy and queen. Those was classic back in the days. Those was classic. They were starting waves. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Army went right to the Army and Navy store. So that's what I'm saying. With the locks, that's what I'm saying with them is like Diddy just had, you know, Biggie was like the first fat nigga you seen really get fly besides pun.
1:03:46Tony Yayo:Know what I'm saying? Because that Coogee shit - Heavy D was on his fly shit too. Oh yeah, that's right. Heavy D, rest in peace Heavy D. Heavy D used to be on his fly shit. He was. He was. I can't, rest in peace Heavy D, that was one of my overweight lover. That was, you know what I mean? Is that a pause? Yes. You said that was one of my, like. Nah, I said that was one of my favorites though. Way love it. That was the name. Pause, rest in peace Heavy. Is Heavy D a pause? Heavy D, pause, rest in peace. Damn. Can't even say rest in peace Heavy.
1:04:16Tony Yayo:But he was the first fat nigga, or would you say the Fat Boys was the first fly niggas? You would consider the Fat Boys fly? I mean, if you got three movies under your belt, that's some fly shit. You know what I'm saying? Can't put on that. So we say, yeah, you would say the fat boys was the fly. For y 'all, y 'all, you know what they're doing? The fat boys. Fashion wise, I wouldn't say they was on no fashion fly shit, but they did some fly shit. They was on their Adidas shit. It was early in the game when they came out, they wasn't fashionably on no fly. They was just, no, they was mad. Yeah, they was just doing.
1:04:45Tony Yayo:I mean, they was on their Adidas way. They had a little shit. They just was big niggas, you know? Yeah. But Adidas, because remember back then, Adidas was kind of bigger than Nike. Then Jordan, then Nike and all that came, because Run DMC, shout out to Run DMC, my Adidas. You know what I'm saying? I was like, everybody was running to get Adidas. You know what I'm saying? Like how girls was running to get Reeboks. The good old days, barbecues not getting shot up, y 'all. Bus trips, motherfuckers dancing, doing backflips. Rob Markman, So you were getting shot up back then too, man. Rob Markman, Nah, they was, but it was less shootings.
1:05:14Tony Yayo:Maybe one or two niggas had the hammer. Rob Markman, No, it was more. Rob Markman, Maybe 20 niggas had the hammer, but they were chill. Rob Markman, Right? They were chill. I'm just saying - There was a lot of sewage back then, man. Nah, nah, nah. I'm not saying - Brooklyn was on fire. Brooklyn was on fire. Yeah, but what I'm saying is - It'd be crazy, guys, because you been looking at the statistics? But, Merck, what I'm saying is there be times where niggas will have beef and they want to violate the good old - Yeah. High static and want to violate. Yeah, facts. You know what I'm saying? So for me, I'm like, now it's like more violence.
1:05:42Tony Yayo:Like, I remember going to backyard parties. Yeah, some of them got crazy parties, but it wasn't like as crazy as now to me. It was crazy, but - Rob Markman, I think back in the day shit used to be whoo. The other days they highlighted more because of these cameras and shit, but back in the day shit was going down man. Rob Markman, But a nigga ain't have a button back in the day. Shit's different. Rob Markman, It's about that switchy? Rob Markman, Yeah. Rob Markman, It's about that. Rob Markman, It's a whole different ball game. Rob Markman, The Game is different man. So have, shout out to 50 man, shout out to 50 to boss.
1:06:10Tony Yayo:You know what I'm saying? I mean how was it when y 'all signed, you know Mob Deep signed, MOP signed, it was a big moment for G-Unit. We turned into a record label, an empire. You know, we was with the greats. We went on an anger management tour. I know y 'all got the twin Porsches. Is Stick Shift a pause? It might be a pause. Because I'm like Stick Shift pause. Because you didn't know how to drive Stick Shift pause. Nah, I learned on that car that Fifth got us. I learned in like three days. Word up. And I became a pro at that shit. But back then, yo, you know, it was mad fun, man. And you know, Fifth called me up one day because we had got dropped from job.
1:06:48And Fifth called me. I never spoke to him on the phone before in my life. He's like, yo, this 50. I was like, man, get the fuck out of here. He's like, nah, this is 50. So then we started kicking it. He's like, y 'all heard your free agents. I said, yeah, I fuck with it. You know what I'm saying? You got to holler at P. You know what I'm saying? He holler at P. Next thing you know, we was on G-Unit. And like almost immediately he was sending us songs, mad songs. So we almost had the album done. and then we jumped on that, what? Was that the Masco tour?
1:07:15Tony Yayo:Yeah, no, I think, yeah, was it Anger Management? I think it was Anger Management. It was Anger Management because Eminem was there. Yeah, we had the buses with our faces on it, us. Yup, yup, that shit was crazy. And that's around the time that P had the bulletproof truck and all of that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, P had the bulletproof, let's talk about that. P had the bulletproof truck with the hammer on him, going down the one way. I think he was trying to get the Alchemist condo right there by Madison Square Garden. Yup, yup. So what was that like? I know Scott Lehman was furious, probably shout out to Scott Lehman.
1:07:45That shit was crazy because I already -
1:07:47Tony Yayo:Did you have a bulletproof truck too? Nah, nah. I passed on that. I was like, you know what I'm saying? That shit was a lot of money. I love you had a bulletproof truck. I always say, why P had the hammer in the bulletproof truck? Well, it makes sense. P was like that, you know what I'm saying? Throw something back. Yeah, P was like that. So, you know, he got the bulletproof truck. He's like, yo, have you want to get one? I was like, nah, nah, I'm good, whatever. But Pete always kept a hammer on him. You know what I'm saying? And yeah. What was the first one of the singles with 50? Remember we were shooting a video in LA?
1:08:25Tony Yayo:Do you remember that? What was that? That was the one with Buck was on there. Give it to me, baby. Don't play games. Nah, there was one y 'all shot in LA. That wasn't it. Y 'all had with 50. I forgot what it was. Was it... No, I think I got - It wasn't Out of Control, because Out of Control was in New York. Yeah, I think I missed that one. Out of Control was in New York. It was one y 'all did in LA. I'm trying to think. What video was it?
1:08:58I never forget that.
1:09:00Tony Yayo:You remember when, rest in peace, my man, Pretty Shy, the girl came on set for the video with the baby? You remember that? Nah. She was like, Shy, where are you? I got your baby. That shit was crazy. Back in the days, it was y 'all video shoot with 50. I remember that shit. I don't remember what song was because we did so many, you know what I mean? Those videos, man, you just had to be there. It was just so crazy. Rob Markman, Historic moments, Anger Management, Mob D. Do you remember that time when we was performing? Because we used to come out during the middle of the performance. Did you fall through the stage?
1:09:31Yes, it was a fucking hole in the stage.
1:09:33Tony Yayo:Yeah, you fell through the stage. Hell yeah. In Detroit. Detroit, what was it? The Lions Stadium? Y 'all always talk about that. Y 'all always talk about that. What was y 'all doing? Quiet Storm. What was y 'all doing? I fell through that shit. I forgot what song was. Yo, everybody was like, yo, where the fuck is Havoc? Y 'all was doing some shit. You on Prodigy? I was hanging on for my life. I think it was Quiet Storm. I put the lights on to the table lines. Y 'all was doing Quiet Storm. Oh my God. And Prodigy was up there. Hab was up there. We turned around. We on stage. And niggas was like, yo, where the fuck is Havoc?
1:10:04Tony Yayo:And the nigga fell through the black box. The shit Eminem come up in. Yeah. You fell through that shit. Nobody didn't tell me that shit was dead. That shit was scary. I could've fucking, I could've died. Son, my nigga, the square was big. So we performing and somebody was like trying to wave like, yo, chill. And the next thing you know, and you know what? That was the time - Lions stadium stadium. That was the time when I said, yo, let me chill from drinking. You know what I'm saying? I said, let me chill from drinking. So I ain't drink like in three days. and I fell through that shit and I caught myself.
1:10:37I was holding, like I'm hanging off a cliff. You would have been done. It's done, it's over. Done. It's over. Yo, niggas was like, yo, where the fuck is Havoc?
1:10:44Tony Yayo:Imagine they perform in Lions Stadium, cause they were, 50 and Eminem was doing stadiums, not even arenas. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. It was Lions Stadium, it was a big ass stage, I'ma be on stage and niggas was like, yo, where Havoc go? You ain't a crook, son.
1:11:02Tony Yayo:Yo, where the fuck is happening? Yo, he fell through the shit, man. I fell through the fucking stage. Those are good times on anger management, man. Anger management tour was the best tour of my life. I was on Fed Parole and State Parole, and they let me go on that tour. Shout out to the lawyers, 50 got for us. I think it was Al Heyman. You know what I mean? The lawyers was always good. Let us travel. Look at that. Know what I'm saying? I just couldn't be on a bus with the gangsters. I was on 50 bus violins. Caviar and shit. They didn't want me around the felon bus. You know, Mobb Deep, M.O.P.
1:11:38Tony Yayo:Yeah, you couldn't be on that one. Nah, I couldn't be on that. Banks, everybody, Olivia. That's who was fire. That's who was fire, man. What you think about the whole hip hop game there though, huh? What you think about the state of hip hop, as they were saying? I mean, you know what I'm saying? It changed, but you know what I'm saying? I'm not mad at it. You know what I mean? I always knew eventually that shit gonna change. You know what I'm saying? And I would be of the older generation and they'll probably make some shit that I don't understand. You know what I mean? But me being a music person, I appreciate it.
1:12:12You know what I'm saying? For what they doing, however they doing it, even if it's not some shit that I would make. And I just, I always say it like this too. I ain't like everything in the fucking nineties. You know what I'm saying? so I ain't gonna like everything now. You know what I mean? But there's some shit out there that I do like. So, you know, I ain't mad at the state of hip hop. It's different because of technology. You know what I'm saying? Anybody in their malls could put out a song. So, you know, I just try to focus on quality. You know what I mean?
1:12:40Tony Yayo:Now, this is the number one question. Is we getting another Mobb Deep album? Because I know Prodigy has like two million verses. Yeah, you know, I really want... Shout out to you on Alchemist. Word up. Shout out to AOC. I want to put out another Mobb Deep album. I ain't gonna lie. You know what I'm saying? Because you know why? Because I have fun doing it. You know what I'm saying? Even before the album came out, just to take Prodigy's vocals, listen to it and - Rob Markman - Figuring out how to put it together and all that stuff. Rob Markman - You know what I'm saying? And just put it together like a puzzle.
1:13:07It's a challenge for me. You know what I'm saying? And I would definitely love to do - Rob Markman - Do y 'all have some more verses?
1:13:14Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Oh, absolutely. Rob Markman - Oh, Prodigy. Rob Markman - Oh, Prodigy. Rob Markman - Prodigy in heaven. Rob Markman - Absolutely. Rob Markman - Prodigy wrote like Tupac, man. He got like 10 ,000 songs in the book. Rob Markman, But you got to - Rob Markman, Chuck him into Alchemist. Rob Markman, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Alchemist got some verses. Rob Markman, Talk about the album, because for the album, my favorite song was You, Nas, and - Rob Markman, Poor the Henny. Rob Markman, Yeah. Rob Markman, The album was just one of those things. Rob Markman, I had a video for that one too, but I swear - Rob Markman, Nah, we ain't do a video for it, man.
1:13:37Rob Markman, We had a video for that one? Rob Markman, We did a video for Love the Way. Rob Markman, No, that was the girl singing. That's the one I'm talking about.
1:13:42Tony Yayo:Oh, that's what you was talking about? Yeah, that one, I feel like even the kids gravitated to that one record. Yeah, you know, that was just - Like the younger generation. That was one of them records that just came together. You know what I mean? We got Georgia Smith on there. You know what I'm saying? Nas was on there. P on there. And, you know, even though it's like a record for the shorties, it's like, you know what I mean? Everybody could relate to it. Everybody could relate to it. You know what I'm saying? Everybody could relate to it. You know what I'm saying? So, I really loved the record.
1:14:12I appreciate it, you know what I'm saying?
1:14:14Tony Yayo:So you think for this year, next year, we might get another mall, deep out? You know what I'm hoping by the end of this year, maybe. Okay, that sounds good. End of this year, okay, y 'all heard that. Y 'all heard that. Word, word. R.I.P. Prodigy forever. Yeah, definitely. Shout out to his daughter, Tasia. Definitely, Tasia, shout out to you. Shout out P's wife, Kiki. Shout out to Kiki. You know what I mean? Yeah, shout out to Kiki and Tasia and the son. You know what I'm saying? Little P. R.I.P. to P's moms, Fatima, Johnson, beautiful lady. She helped us from the beginning. You know what I mean?
1:14:52And R.I.P. to P grandmas, because she the one that bought us the equipment for me to even make beats. Look at that, look at that. For real, she paid it for it.
1:15:01Tony Yayo:Crazy, you told us some deep shit, man. Yeah, it is, man. Everything is a pause. So it's getting crazy now. So if you say Bob Deep, that's Paws 2? Nah, Mob Deep is cool, right? Okay, all right. Nah, it's not a Paws. It's not a... Thinking about that one. I'm not. We got Mob Deep in the building. You're already done. Rest in peace, Prodigy. We got Havoc in the building. What's the name of the album again? Total Love Knows. The Infinite Album, if you don't got it. The Infinite Album, if you don't fucking got it. It's out now, the Infinite Album. Make sure y 'all go cop that, rest in peace, the Prodigy.
1:15:33Tony Yayo:Shout out to his family, condolences to everybody. And we out of here, it's The Real Report. Make sure y 'all like, share, and subscribe. Yeah!
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This episode of The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda features Mobb Deep legend Havoc for a raw conversation about legacy, survival, and the stories behind some of hip-hop’s most important records. Havoc breaks down life after a 40-country tour, his sobriety, the pressure of proving himself with new music, and the early days of meeting Prodigy, recording “Shook Ones,” and building the Mobb Deep sound that helped define Queensbridge. Yayo and Murda take it back to wild tour memories, G-Unit stories with 50 Cent, the Henny era, and the moment Mobb Deep and M.O.P. signed to G-Unit, while Havoc opens up about the East Coast-West Coast tension, 2Pac dissing Mobb Deep, the Jay-Z and Prodigy Summer Jam moment, the Lost Boyz brawl, and the rumor that Mobb Deep almost signed with Puff. From “Quiet Storm” and “Shook Ones” to Timberlands, army jackets, production talk, life without Prodigy, and whether another Mobb Deep album is coming, this episode is packed with classic hip-hop history, street stories, hilarious pause moments, and real reflection from one of rap’s most respected producers and MCs.
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