The Real Report - N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN on 10 years of Drink Champs, remembering Big Pun, Ice Cube vs Biggie, & removing Prodigy off of LA LA track

19:06We were murder before murder. I remember murder unit. We were unit before the unit.

19:13Tony Yayo:I remember murder unit. We gladly gave y 'all. Get the fuck out of here. I don't know about that. I don't know about that, but I remember murder unit wasn't even rappers. They was just like killers and stuff. They was just shit. They was just niggas from the Bronx. Y 'all wasn't rapping, nigga. Y 'all was on some stupid shit, nigga. Come on, nigga. I don't even remember that. Nah. But you know, to tell you the truth, man, like, you know what I'm saying? For me to see that, like, for years later, that media would be like, I was the first person, like I said, to work at 50. I know I was playing around earlier.

19:45Tony Yayo:You're the first person for a lot of stuff, like Soulja Boy. Yeah, yeah. I am. I am. I'm the first. Even with this podcast shit, really. Yeah, podcast shit. How did y 'all even start this shit? Like, how did y 'all even do this shit? He said his best year was 98. We met in 98. Oh, look at that. That's crazy. Yeah, I was the mixed day dude in Miami. He came to Miami. And we fucked up. Because I remember doing them in one of y 'all first episodes. It was like in the hotel in Miami. That was a freestyler. Yo, we out here. I heard y 'all out here. What episode was that? Hotel, Miami. We may know. That's a fact.

20:10Tony Yayo:That's a fact. That's a fact. You were first year for sure. Like first couple months. You were definitely in the first year. You were definitely in the first year. Both y 'all. Both y 'all. But I knew your algorithms, bro. Like, I knew it. Like, when you did it, I was like, wait a minute. this motherfucker doesn't even know like like you you have a charisma you have a certain thing both of y 'all both of y 'all like you know what I'm saying like you you too and like I saw it and I was let me tell you something I was doing so hard that's my guy that's my brother of course but I was going so hard to make sure that I could do it but I just knew and then even the even the fact that y 'all call it the real report, I was just like, I love this shit.

20:56Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I love this shit because right now, hip-hop is controlling media, right? We're controlling our own media. Back in the days, you used to do the Source magazine. The Source magazine would have to come out three months later. So, let's suppose I had beef with Uncle Murda, and then me and you squashed it. But I said something about you three months earlier, and then me and you squashed it. But this shit's come out now. And you're like, yo, what the fuck? So, right now, we're controlling it. I'm really, really, really proud of what y 'all doing. Thank you. I appreciate it.

21:27Like, I want to salute y 'all, you know what I'm saying? Thank you, man. Definitely, man. Definitely. Because this shit is dope. And at the end of the day, man, like, I love the fact that we're getting money, man. Of course. Yeah. Of course. Let's get money. Yeah. That's how we're getting money. Drink, tea, and crew for it. That's how we get some money, man. Yo. I got to ask you. I'm not winning.

21:44Tony Yayo:Because I got to get you. I want to keep it to the music with you. Let's go. Let's go. How is it working in the studio with Pun, man? That was my favorite thing. All right. I wish EFN had a pun like this. Yeah, rest in peace to Pun. Pun used to go like this. Rest in peace to Pun. You wish I had it so you could fuck me up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I get another beer? Who are you in charge of beer? I'll ask somebody that's getting my own brother EFN another Modelo. We need some more Modellos. Rest in peace, Pun. Rest in peace, Pun, man. Pun was, uh, um, I believe Pun was probably one of the best people I ever met in life.

22:17Not rapper. You know how you say that's my best rapper friend? I believe Pun was probably one of the best people I ever met. He would go to Left Rack. This is old school Left Rack. This is not, you know. He would go to Left Rack. He would go to Queensbridge. Wherever I was at, he would just pull up on me. And to this day, I have no rapper that would do that. I have no rapper friends that will come see me. pun would be everywhere and he would do it. And we just had like a great relationship. And I remember, I'm getting a little deep on y 'all, but I remember... Can I keep it real with you though?

22:58Yeah.

22:59Tony Yayo:This is the real part. Let's go. I know your publicist is over there. No, no, no. You know we don't care about that shit. Did he really pop on J? Like hit him in the head with the bottle? I have no idea about that. I was just always wondering. I have no idea. That was just a story. I just... It was, okay. Nah, because I remember Who Kid said he... You were just getting deep. Go ahead. Nah, but hold on. I remember Who Kid... You did say that. No, this is why I always look pun crazy for that. You heard that. Wait, wait, wait. He definitely did that. Well, Jay, that was a rumor back in the days. Nah, we heard it in Miami.

23:24Tony Yayo:Right? Yeah, it was a rumor back in the days. He popped on Jay. I always... Now, look. Hold on, hold on. He kidnapped Who Kid. He kidnapped Who Kid. I always feel guilty about that because... You said Who Kid up? Yeah, I think I lined him up. See, that's what I'm trying to tell you. Talk about it. Y 'all Queens, nigga. I ain't know that. I'm just saying I ain't know nothing about that. Yo, Queens niggas. Shut the hookahs here. Yo, Queens niggas. Ain't who kid? Yo, ain't who kid? Yeah, yo. Who kid said he kidnapped him? Some Queens niggas locked up the Queens. I'm just saying. I don't know. Yo, look.

23:53I'm not sure. Go ahead, bro. Finish the story. How the fuck did that happen? What happened? One asked me, yo, can you hook me up with who kid? He never said what was the problem. He never said nothing. Wow. I think I did connect him. Look at this. And I regretted that shit forever. Like, I was like, oh, my God. Yo, y 'all Bronx niggas are crazy. Like, and, um, well, who kid, like, uh, so what was I going back to? Let me go back to a pun story. You want to point out how that was going? Uh, Pun's funeral. They had gave, like, everybody, like, two minutes, three minutes to look at the casket. I stood there, like, 15 minutes.

24:37I couldn't hold myself. Damn. and full flex, rest in peace, full flex, Joe's family. And he grabbed me and he said to me, you know, he's in peace now. Right. And it hurt me because I never seen Pun hurt. Like, I only seen him happy. And then I realized that, you know, Pun must have been sick. And I just didn't see it. Like, I was too young. I was too young to see it. Like, we sat there. Like, Pun was the first person I ever seen get a wire. Not a wire. A wire. Like, we was in Vegas. We blew our whole shit. Like, I'm not even a gambler. I don't even gamble. But we was in Vegas, and we gambled. And Pun was like, we blew like 50.

25:29And Pun was like, we're going to, I'm going to get Steve Rifkin to send us a hundred. And I was like, what? And, and. Pun had it like that? That's crazy. This is 98, 97. And Steve Ripken remembers this to this day. Steve Ripken was like, man, y 'all guys told me y 'all was pulled over in Vegas. We lied like a motherfucker. That's funny. But this is the first time I heard of a wire. You understand what I'm saying? So getting back to what you're saying. No, man. Yeah, a wire. A wire. A wire. That's the part he said. You know, only so American me. Remember American me? Pass the wire. Pass the wire.

26:07Pass the wire. So I was like, and Pun, so to get back to your thing, Pun was probably one of the best people I ever met in my life. But he sent$100 ,000? He sent$100 ,000. 50 to me and 50 to him. I didn't even know my bank info. Like, I was like, I had to call like 15 people like, oh, okay, what's my bank account? I'm trying to get this money sent now. Yeah, and we blew that. Me and Pun blew that. Like, we were like, we were bozos. Like, we used to call Fat Joe the fun police. Because Fat Joe, when we got together, he'd be like, y 'all shouldn't be together. And y 'all shouldn't be doing what y 'all doing.

26:48You know what I mean? But, yeah, that's one of the best people I've ever met. Yeah, I feel like Capital Punishment was a classic.

26:53Tony Yayo:Yep. Capital Punishment was a classic. Because when you think about it, Pun was coming with rapper capability that was amazing. He had hit records for the ladies. Yep, yep. And he was a fat nigga that had the swag. Yes, yes, yes. So he was like a big or a heavy D. Is that a pause, heavy D? All right. That's not a pause. So Rafa. We going to salute that. I told him everything can't be a pause. I don't think heavy D can be a pause. Yeah, heavy D, you know. Because he passed away. Yeah, I got you. The Fat Boys was nice back in the days. But they really wasn't dresses. They just had their Adidas and all that on.

27:27Tony Yayo:Yes. But heavy D was, you know, fat nigga getting fly first. Mm-hmm. Word. Hicamo Modellos. Hey! Hey! Hey! But I just want to reiterate this. This is my favorite part of Drink Champs, is when they argue, bro. Did you see the passion? I saved it. Now, let me tell you something. People hit me after that, and they were like, yo, it looks serious. Like, y 'all threw hands after that? I was like, no. I said, he's Haitian, I'm Cuban, We Caribbean people. We talk like that. Like, you see now my octagals. Well, I just try to figure out where does all the Biggie hate come from? There's not Biggie hate.

28:09Tony Yayo:Like, every state of the country. There's no Biggie hate. That's a figment of your imagination. I like it. I started it up right there. So you still think Ice Cube is better than Biggie? Huh? You still think Ice Cube is better than Biggie? Fact is, Biggie died. That's what people understand. But that's what I said. But like, all right, when Biggie and Tupac had beef, right? We know it was a terrible thing. Rest in peace to both of them. Obviously. But like in hip hop, we love competition. Let's keep it real. Right now, new shit, Lotto and Cardi B. We loving that shit. Yo, was you talking about Cardi?

28:40And what y 'all think about the Jay-Z and Drake thing? I'd like to know what y 'all think about the Jay-Z freestyle. What y 'all think about that? I'm going to let him go first. I want to know both of y 'all. What y 'all think about that? We were just happy to see Jay even mention anything. Fuck all that just happy to see Jay shit. No, that's real. What you thought about the freestyle, the bars that he was directing. Was it fire? Was it mid? What did you like? I thought it was cool. Like, it was cool. But people going now, the blogs, the videos, the podcasts, they just cypher everything, and they make it bigger than what it is.

29:11I thought it was just cool for me, personally.

29:13Tony Yayo:I feel like it was better than cool. You know why? Because I feel like when there's no drama in hip hop, it's boring. Let's just keep it real. So you just want drama. No, it's not even that. It's like, fuck it until the casket drops. No, no, let me give you an example. Drake, right? When I look at careers, Drake helped everybody. At the end of the day, he helped Kendrick. Of course. He helped Ricky Ross. Officer Ricky. He helped Officer Ricky. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. What? Officer Ricky. He helped Officer Ricky. He helped Officer Ricky. He helped Officer Ricky. He helped Rocky.

29:50Tony Yayo:What's up with that line? He was Aiden Ross with students before. That's hard. That was a hard line. Hold on. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. He helped. Look, look. He helped your man, DJ Khaled. He helped Khaled. He did. And then it's like with the Kendrick shit, it was like the industry shit. Once they felt like, oh, shit, he losing. Everybody turn they back. Right. It's like the drug dealer when he go broke. Hold on. Yeah. Niggas turn they back. You out of bricks? I don't know that nigga no more. That same shit. Rap game ain't no different. That's why I'm glad we didn't have too many friends. I always say that.

30:25Tony Yayo:So when you really think about it, when he made Iceman, it was like, yo, this nigga was in the studio for like three months. He was just, everybody dissed him. But you know Drake is going to, yo, Drake is going to always come back with some bars. So when he dissed everybody, niggas is tapped into Iceman. We can't even get to the second album because we like the competition. We like Nas versus Jay. You didn't like that? Yeah. Right? We like Kendrick versus Drake. Yeah. Yeah. We like 50 vs. Ja Rule. Don't say you don't like it. Don't Ja your man. Don't Ja your man. I like it. No, that's your boy.

30:58Tony Yayo:I like it. I see where you're going with this. We like it. You like it. Yeah, I like it. You get crushed. Now look, you like, right now, do you like the Nicki vs. No, not Nicki, Cardi vs. Lotto thing? You know what? This is the first time I've ever even heard it. Yeah, Cardi was on the phone. But I also wanted to know what you thought about the Jay freestyle. Because I love the Jay freestyle. I wanted to know what's going on about it. I love the Jay freestyle because I didn't, I didn't, I knew every, I felt like I knew the whole set, like what was going to happen. And then I felt like he fooled all of us.

31:28And he did that and he brung hip hop back. So, and it's crazy because he actually told us the week before, like, let's not guard each other. That's what I was saying. I was just about to get into that. He was doing, me and Jay was talking about that. He was just saying like, no more drama. Hip hop is not good. He said he didn't like battles. You don't need to be talking about certain things. and then he came out and started talking about certain things. And I thought... And I get it. We from Brooklyn, Jay. Trust me, I get it. I get it. He took all types of low blows, Paul. He was saying all types of shit, like, wow.

32:00He took a dip? Like, whoa.

32:01Tony Yayo:So you don't feel like in a battle with Nas, he didn't take low blows about the baby, the baby seat? Yeah, of course. Everybody took low blows. Here's how clever Jay is, right? They kept telling me that he went at yay, and I couldn't see it. I didn't realize it was the first bar that he said. He's no maniac. There was sometimes one word was dissing somebody. Watch out saying he act. In my presence type shit. In my presence. Facts. And I could not, like, it took me a whole week to catch that. I was like, because I was like, he didn't go at, yeah, at all. But I do think it's a certain thing in hip hop where we're competitive.

32:48Tony Yayo:How one week you could say, because this is where I believe, once you're a billionaire, everybody just say yes to what you say. I need a billion dollars, so everybody just be like, yes, yayo, yes, yayo. Okay. Right? Me too. Let's go. Let's do it, right? Because you say, don't take low blows, but in the song, he took some low blows. I believe, I believe, this is helping hip hop. I believe that. It is. I agree. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying, I feel like he, What did we say? We said we felt like it was going to be on the record coming. Because we want to see that in battle. Like, it don't got to go to violence all the time, right?

33:22Tony Yayo:Yeah. All I'm saying is the good battle, like, before Drake and Kendrick, everything felt like the game was, like, female dominated. Like, because you got now, think about it, you got more female rappers now than we did back in the day. So there's a lot of women that's just listening to RK Amis, to Lotto, to Cardi, to all the women rappers. And if you got a hit, the women will mess with it too. The Future Records, Drake, or whatever it is now. But it's split. So even with the girl beef, it's like, that goes viral. Like right now, look, I'm gonna give you a perfect example. Cardi on the phone. She don't know she being recorded.

33:59Tony Yayo:She wiling. Bitch is pussy. Lotto. Right? So Lotto just came out with a record, getting that Cardi. And they asked on radio. They was like, yo, was that about Cardi? And she said, yeah. because you know what she said on and I told Murda, I was like, Y 'all putting me on. Look, once you on the phone and we friends and I say, yo, Murda, you, Murda's pussy. And you're not there. We not friends no more. So I guess Cardi tried to send out Birkin because we talk about everything here. We don't care. That's what makes us the real part. We don't care. She sent out Birkin and then she had the diss record saying like, I got the Iron Man store.

34:32Tony Yayo:So it'd be a lot of shit competition wise just with the women too. Like Nicki going at people and the Cardis and the Megan Thee Stallions. Niggas is checking that shit too. Because it's competition. It's like KRS won an MC share back in the days. Shit, me, I'm - This Queens. When did the last - But we still loved it, huh? I seen you in Europe. Where was we at? It was in Nice. I think we was in Nice. Probably was. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm on that. Yeah, that's what I'm - I'm on that. I'm on that. So you saying you don't know about all the drama that be going on? But you was just - You're not fully in tune with all the drama that's going on.

35:03Mert!

35:04Tony Yayo:Yo, how was it acting in pain in full, man? Classic album. I know 50's doing that over right now. I love it. You should get up with him, too. I love it. Yeah, I need it. I mean, I don't know. You was, come on, bro. You was that nigga in that, bitch. 12 seconds. 12 seconds. 12 seconds, bitch. It's all good. 12 seconds. I didn't realize it all the time. Shit like that count. Everybody needs to have a story in the movie. It's a matter of a camera. 12 seconds count. You ever think of getting acting again? Because that was like a, that 12 seconds was like some real shit. Absolutely. You got to tell them the horror movie you did.

35:33Oh, chill. Well, hold on. I want to know what the set of Paid in Full is. All right. So, all right. I want to know what that paid and full set was like. Yeah. I walk to the set, and they give me a script. And I say, I hate this script. What? I did not want to listen to anything that they said. Everything was like, it was like corny shit. Why'd you do that? No. So I threw the shit away. You felt like it was corny. I got you. But I'm a dude. So now you got to remember. You got to remember, this is in the 80s. So I can't say slang. I can't say. Modern slang. I can't say modern slang. So that's the reason why you heard me at the end.

36:09I say, water.

36:11Tony Yayo:So hold on, what pay the food came out again? When y 'all shot that? That was like 90, um. Was it a 90? 2000. That was 2000, man. I'm buggered. 2000. 2001, 2002, something like that. But you saying based on a movie on the 80s. He couldn't talk about certain things. He couldn't talk about certain things. OK, yeah. So when I went there, they informed me, like, not, do not say son. Do not say thun. Because niggas wasn't talking like that back then. Got you. Got you. Got you. So I'm sitting there, and I did it in one take. I did the whole shit. I was just like, all right, cool. They didn't even do a safety?

36:44Yeah, they did do a safety. But I'm saying, the version that you see, that was one take. First take. And I circled around. I put on the Gucci outfit.

36:56Tony Yayo:And I just was like. Do your line so the people know, because that was close. Hell no. I don't even remember. Nigga cut the nigga and shit, man. They was telling you nigga split his whole shit open. It was like the ultimate. Yeah, yeah. It was like the ultimate. Yo, hold on. Yo, Rico, cut the shit. You want me to get on some Queen shit? You want me to really get on some Queen shit? I don't, but bad. You know what, guys? I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but you ain't like Queen. You ain't lying. You ain't lying. You ain't lying. You know where that line is from? Where? Here's real shit.

37:30Our pole came to 40 projects. I was there. Oh, 40? Oh, the Queen? Shit. There's no other 40 projects. No, no, I'm surprised. There's no other 40 projects.

37:39Tony Yayo:This is my first time hearing this. I think there's a 40s in Far Rockaway, too, by the way. Thank you, fellas. But that's Queen. Thank you, gentlemen. That's still Queen. It still doesn't matter. There's a 40 projects in Far Rockaway. That's still Queen. There's a 40 projects in Far Rockaway. Y 'all hate my nigga? Just keep it real. That's still Queen. You could be in Far Rockaway, too, when you say 40 projects. OK, OK. Shout to 40. That's, I'm not, you know. OK, well. Thank you, whoever knew that from Far Rockaway. My uncle Waz. My uncle Waz from 107 and Garbua. And I went to go see my uncle Waz.

38:11Yeah, I think I remember Waz. Yes, my uncle Waz. This is my uncle Waz. And this was the time that Harlem had a drought. Now, a lot of people don't understand. I know this is like sounds crazy. But Zelda Blanco moved the Queens.

38:25Tony Yayo:Get out of here. Yeah. No, this is documented. Zelda Blanco moved the Queens. Oh, you didn't know this? No. I didn't know this. Jackson Heights. One million percent. And we know her son in Miami, so he's gone. One million percent. She moved to Queens, and she supplied the whole... I don't know how the hell she went to Southside instead of going to Lefrag, Queensbridge, right there and there. Look at that. And I was out there in 40 projects, and Alpo had drove through on... He did the Willie. Damn, classic. So when I say, I say, yo, the Puerto Rican nigga, the Spanish nigga that did the Willie, I did all that.

39:02You talking about some shit that you really saw. I actually saw. I actually saw in real life. That's dope. Look at that. That's dope. And so when you now go look at that shit. Now, when you go look at that shit, you're going to be like, this nigga know he's L. Because, yeah, like, this was a real life experience.

39:18Tony Yayo:You really seen Alpo in 40? I've never heard of that. I seen Alpo in 40 projects. I seen Alpo in 40 projects. I seen, I seen that shit, man. Like, shit, Bazley, all that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm a real queen. You know, I went to church in Bazley. Oh, what? I used to go to church in Baisley, bro Like, I'm a real official Queens nigga Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Come on, man, you know what I'm saying? This is real, this is real, real, real, real, real, real Shit, and so That's how that movie came about When you got with Capone, Capone from Left Rack 2? No, Capone from Queensbridge Oh, he from Queensbridge So how y 'all get up?

39:54You know what's crazy? It's a dude named Sherman the Worm The infamous Sherman the Worm?

40:00Tony Yayo:He still locked up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sherman the Worm told me, yo, you remind me of my friend, Kyem. What? Kyem is Capone. Oh, OK. And we, years later, met up in DFY. I got two people from DFY with me, Chick Vang and Mac Moe. And you know what I'm saying? We was in Harlem Valley, and we linked. Talked to Mac Murdy later. That's Mac Murdy? Mac Murdy look like he's still walking the yard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My mother, you walk in the yard. 35 years. I can tell. When I go somewhere, I know what I mean. I'm like, nah, he walk in the yard. You got to talk later, Murda. Y 'all made me talk on the phone with Genghis.

40:42Oh, OK. Facts. OK, facts. I just came home. Facts. Free G. He be home in a little bit. He a little short. He coming home in a minute. I'm telling you, Murda know everybody. I don't know. Free my nigga G. That's a fact. That's how I'm... So, Sherm the Worm put your... Sherm the Worm, he told me about Pwn, and he told Pwn about me. So when we actually connected, it was in church. It was a person called Billy Wade in Harlem Valley. And we got together. And Pone didn't rhyme at that time. I rhymed. Okay. And I came home and Capone had a deal with Faith Newman. You know who Faith Newman is? Nah. Well, that's the person who signed 50 Cent and the person who signed Nas.

41:25Oh, look at that. Oh, Columbia. At Columbia Records, yes. Okay. Yes, you know I'm... So, and then Pone said, yo, man, I want to wait for my friend. And then we linked up coming home and Capone and no react. But I will say this. We went to Hot 97. We freestyled. And Big was there. What? And Big asked us to both rhyme. And Capone rhymed. And I was so scared. You froze up in front of Big, man. I froze up in front of Big. I froze up in front of Big. Rest in peace, Big. Big one. Oh, shit! Yeah, he's up in front of Ice Cube, you nigga.

42:12But didn't Big one to sign Capone? No, I ain't gonna lie. I thought it was. You froze up in front of Big. Yo, listen. Listen. I thought it was over for me. Because Big loved Capone, and I just was standing there like a bozo. Look at that. And Big was like, he exchanged numbers with Pong. Little C's was driving. That's when Little C's crippled me. This is that week that Little C's crippled me. He had a cane and everything. And we were like, oh, shit. No, not we. I was like, oh, shit. It's over for me. You know what I got to ask you. Pong held it down. Pong, you held it down, nigga. You know what I got to ask you?

42:52It's me and Murda.

42:53Tony Yayo:Murda always say, yo, is it worse now or before, right? Right? And we don't condone no violence. but now there's cameras and stuff. Oh, I hate it. So Murda be like, it was worse back then. Really, yo, it just wasn't no cameras, right? Explain to people. There wasn't no social media. Like I said, there wasn't no social media. Definitely, there wasn't no camera social media, right? Explain to people. Oh, we used to pound niggas out. Hold on, hold on. Facts, tell us. We used to pound niggas out. Hold on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Pound niggas out is not a force. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Hold on, but hold on.

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46:12Tony Yayo:You had Mobb D. You had CNN War Report coming, Capone and Noriega. You had Nas. You had Tragedy, Qaddafi. Them niggas was all, I ain't gonna say, they all was dropping at the same time, bro. At that point, it was like, yo, nah, Queensbridge, Left Rack, Ravenswood. It was like y 'all kind of had the game. Historia, West Side, South Side. And then y 'all all had records with Nas, so it was like, come on. Tragedy, Gaddafi? I can't lie to you. I'm going to be honest with you. It's a classic. That was a classic time in hip hop. You could actually go and actually check this. I promise you, ain't nobody had a run in the tunnel like we did.

46:55That's what I was going to ask you. I don't give a fuck. How was the tunnel? Nigga, we ran that shit. Nigga, razors everywhere. Nigga, like, we had the security. The security was scared of us.

47:08Tony Yayo:What was the first time when a war report came out? Brooklyn. You had the tunnel? I ain't gonna lie, they was down with us. Brooklyn niggas was going shopping at the tunnel. That's all I'm saying. Brooklyn niggas was going shopping at the tunnel. At the other side. Whatever you want to say. Brooklyn niggas was going shopping at the tunnel. I know, you know I know how we go. That's my guy on DG. You know this way, Brooklyn, baby. You know the vibe. But look, Brooklyn niggas was going shopping at the tunnel. That's all I'm saying. Let me just tell you something. Yo, but hold on. Think about it. That's the only club in New York City where they said, No more chains, no more watches, no nothing, bro.

47:44Tony Yayo:Listen, listen, I love it. This is how much I had the tunnel. This is what I understand. People don't understand. The tunnel was the arena. For all you Y-Ns, it was the arena for rappers. Hold on, what's that? What's that? Let me tell you how much I fucked up the tunnel at one point.

48:04I was the number one rapper. Platinum. Out the gate. I'm not supposed to be in front and start in trouble. It's not supposed to be me, right? So I'm platinum. I do it. I do everything. That's the reason why I discovered reggaeton. It's because I was banned for every black club in New York City. This is a fact. All right? Search it. All right, cool. So pun tells me, come to the tunnel. I don't have a license. I just got a license two years ago. one year ago. Pun is platinum now. Pun is on fire. So Pun says to me, yo, come to the tunnel. I'm like, yo, Pun, I'm fucking banned. He's like, I'm platinum.

48:50No one's banned around me. Rest in peace to Pun. I'm like, that's right. That's why I love Pun is banned. I'm like, listen, Slime, you don't understand. I'm banned. You're not fucking with it. I'm banned banned. And he's like, okay. I'm two times platinum. And so I pull up. this is how much I had the tunnel on a freeze. I pull up. I got the hoodie on. I got the COVID mask before COVID mask. Because I'm trying to just be disguised. I had the pooh shiesty before pooh shiesty. Right? So I'm walking through. I'm walking through. Gucci dropped the charges. You know what happened? Every police officer that was undercover, and they looked at like us.

49:34them niggas had a Cartier frames them niggas had on chains they had on Jesus pieces and they just pulled out and it was like yo you are bad and you know what pun turned and looked at me what the fuck you be doing I said I told you this like I told you I told you and I'm just letting you know like at that time but cause I don't wanna cause I don't wanna diffuse your statement because we have Brooklyn niggas with us. Big up to Tony Dredd. Shout out to Brooklyn. Big up to Tony Dredd. We were so deep. I said Brooklyn niggas used to run the tunnel. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And everyone hit me and was like, you got to check Uncle Murdoch.

50:16I'm like, oh my God. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. This is how deep we used to be. Okay. My man Tony Dredd, flat bush nigga. He beat up his own cousin because that's how deep we were. Like, if you didn't have a murder unit jersey on, you ain't have a thugged out. But you said when you said Flatbush, right? Flatbush. Flatbush is that, right? Come on, brother. Brooklyn. Brooklyn, yes. That's what I'm saying. No, no, I'm begging you up. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you.

50:47Tony Yayo:I'm going to give him some history, right? OK. Some of 50 rules on the road is because of Nas. Wow. A lot of people don't understand that. Because when 50 was on the road with Nas, because I went on a Nostradamus tour. Yes, I remember. One time, I was on the bus. When I seen Nas with books, I was bugging. I'm like, I'm going to have it for sneakers. I heard you say that. You said it on your pitch. I thought it was big blunts and all that. Jungle in them was the wild niggas. Nas was reading books and all that. It was different. It was a different vibe. You know what I mean? The only thing I was missing was violins and all that.

51:12Tony Yayo:OK. You know what I'm saying? But it's Nas. OK. I like it. Yo, so on that tour, I realized, like, 50 said, like, he went to a couple of shows in, you know, Queensbridge and Ravenswood, sometimes left rack niggas. Them niggas ain't getting along. So, Fifth said he seen niggas like Nas, niggas fight their own niggas. Right, yeah. Like, he'll have niggas from this side and niggas from this side. And that's what he created the rule on the road, not fighting each other. That's what a lot of people don't know. Because Fifth was like, we was around. We was around y 'all looking up to y 'all. You, Nas, who?

51:45Tony Yayo:That's what my blueprint. I ain't saying that. I ain't gonna say a lie. I ain't gonna say a lie. Rest in peace to Chris Lighting. He had the secret sauce. You know what? Chris Lighting had the secret sauce. That's a fact. I think 50 was the smartest because Chris Lighty was, he wasn't no punk, but it was like, 50 always looked at it like, you can't just go for a straight gangster as management. Like a lot of artists, I'm gonna hire this guy because he's a gangster. He don't know nothing about the business. But Chris will fight. Yes. And, because he ran the tunnel at a young age. He ran the tunnel, yeah.

52:16Tony Yayo:That's what I'm saying. He snuck a lot of guns in for me. You better believe it. One million percent. That's what I'm saying. He ran the tunnel at what, 18, 19, 20? Yeah. Yeah, one million percent. 1 million percent. So I always remember, like, fifth pick the right management with Chris. Like, it was like, come on. Everybody was over there. You, K-Slay, rest in peace, K-Slay. Yes. Buster, Rhyme, Jitty. Missy. Missy. Yes, yes. LL was over there. Yes, yes. That was, you know, us and you. You was managed by Chris Lighty. Oh, yeah, yeah. Murder, too. I was managed by Chris Lighty as well. Well, I still haven't got over that.

52:57And I still haven't got over the fact that people say that he killed himself. I can't believe that, man. Like, I can't believe it. I can't co-sign it. I pulled up to the house that day. Buster was there that day. We was all there. I can't believe that either. I can't believe it. And this is something me and 50 had off Convo, and I asked him one day. Like, you know, I believe when we were, when I asked him, I was like, you believe that? And he was like, hell no. And then we said it on camera on Drink Champs. They had some things set up. They're supposed to go start making money. It was all type of tours supposed to be set up.

53:34He was like, nah, we was about to go run. I asked him the same thing. Yeah, I can't.

53:38Tony Yayo:No, but when you really, when you rest in peace, Chris Lighty, Mike Lighty, shout out to Mike Lighty. Dave Lighty, Johnathan Lighty. Yeah, Johnathan Lighty. Claudine was over there. Claudine Joseph. That's right. That's still my people. Laurie. Laurie, yes. Laurie. I used to call him Laurie. This is Laurie. You know what I mean? Who else is over there? I'm buddy. James Cruz. I don't know if you got B for James Cruz. Nah, I don't got B with you. B for James Cruz. OK. 50 told that nigga, when we had B for Suge, he told that nigga go get the knobs. James Cruz, go get the knobs. Hey, James Cruz got the guy.

54:07Tony Yayo:I thought he got screwdrivers. I thought he got screwdrivers. Nah, he said go get the knobs. OK, OK. That was the vibe award or some shit like that. They always put James, 50 always put James Cruz through the ringer. I was just always cool with him. He's a cool dude, man. Yeah, yeah. I remember he flipped on him one time at Interscope. What you told him? You be telling me this story? I want to hear it. Let's go. Tell him what you told me. I don't want to repeat what he said. No, repeat. Fuck this. It's the real report. You can't what? He's in me and the Interscope, right? So I'm there with 50.

54:33Tony Yayo:You know what I'm saying? It's just me, 50, and I think James Cruz. Some shit happened. Biff got tight, called him a crackhead. And what's crazy is he came out like, this is the first time I see somebody like, light a bogey in Interscope. Like, he lit a boat. In the boat. In the scope. In the scope hallway. Like, yo, 50's tripping again. So I'm just like, come on. I know all the stories, bro. I've been around. Classic hip hop moments, bro. Yes, yes. Fat Joe told me I was at the Vibe Awards. And I didn't even. Fat Joe, he keeps telling me. He's like, yo, man. You don't remember that? No. I don't.

55:07Yo, it was. Jay-Z told me I was with him in Croatia. And I don't remember. I told you. It was a crazy night. I had a run, man. That's crazy. I had a run, guys. I was like, how did y 'all start doing the podcast? And what made you start even doing this whole podcast shit? And both of y 'all doing it together. What made y 'all do it? We started, he moved after the reggaeton shit. He felt he was in rap purgatory. Oh, shit. He said the English market turned they back on him. Oh, they wasn't fucking with Nori no more. So he moved to Miami. And we already had that relationship. Gangsters don't die, they get chubby and move to Miami.

55:42Yeah, they definitely did. The first I know Aarisha in Miami, I did the show. And then when Pone got out, they hired, they got my crew, and we did the Pone home show in Miami. Shit, I gotta take a piss. Hold on, I'm sorry. We're the PP station. Right, right in the corner. Right here? Yeah, right there. Oh, shit. All right. Keep going, because I can hear. I can hear. I got good ears. We were connected. But when he moved to Miami, he says he calls it rap purgatory. He said the industry turned their back on him. So he came. He knew I was a hip hopper. I wasn't really, I wasn't fucking with the reggaeton.

56:10I'm a Latino dude. But the way I looked at Legaton, I felt like as a Spanish dude, we was trying to fight for our respect in hip hop. That when I went to Puerto Rico myself early on and I heard it, I felt like they was doing Jamaican Patois in Spanish. I was like, I don't know, man. I don't know. But we over here just trying to prove ourselves over here. Y 'all going to bring this and fuck us up. That's the way I felt about it.

56:32Tony Yayo:I feel different now. So when he told me, I said, I don't know about this. So you felt like it was different now because now Latin music is so big now. You know what I mean? It evolved. It evolved. So you look like it was in Purgatory, but like... He thought he was in Rap Purgatory. No, no, I understand. But like when you look at artists like Pitbull and Flo Rida. And Pit's my homie from back in and Flo Rida. To me, Pitbull, we did shows with them like overseas. Yeah. And to me, they was big artists. Like, I think some people, I'd rather have the big record that everybody likes. Right, right, right.

57:00Tony Yayo:I know, it's funny that he was on it early. You see how fast he takes? Yeah, I don't even know. Yeah. And he makes it to the bathroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. So look. All right, go ahead, go ahead. Don't get on to the point that back then when you started going to the Latin market, it's so crazy. It's like you almost see the future. Look, look. I'm going to give you a look. I see the future. Pharrell. Yes, I see the future. 50. Yeah. Right? Damn, keep going. Podcast. Yeah, keep going. I like where you're going with this. Right? Look, look, think about it, though. That's real shit.

57:29Tony Yayo:No, real shit. Then the Latin music, because I remember when you went to that, but you got some platinum records doing that. No, no, no. Now, look, fast forward now. Podcast. You got it. Podcast. The podcast. I'm talking about when you started. When you started doing the Latin music, you was early on it. You said it was rap purgatory for him. He said that. Right. No, I said it. He felt like that. But meanwhile, his record is probably playing with Pitbull, Flo Rida. Because when I seen them overseas and see them rock shows, I'm like, damn, I want a record like that. Fuck with, like, gangsta shit.

57:58Tony Yayo:Yeah. I need one of those, Flo Rida. Yeah. La, la, la, la, la, la, la. Big bags. I'm like, oh, shit. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's so crazy that you was on that early, but you felt like it was purgatory for you but you sold some platinum and gold records No, no, no, no You might have been too early Yeah, I might have been too early I want to say and it's going to sound a little crazy it was almost cheating, right? What I mean by that is like at that time to sell gold it was$50 ,000 in US? No, no, no, in Latin market and this gold platinum was$100 ,000. So I was gold and platinum like this.

58:42I didn't know a lot of people knew that. No, I didn't either until I dropped the shit. Wow. And then I'm looking like I'm damn near$10 million. Niggas look like, wow, he got the blueprint. Yeah.

58:54Tony Yayo:Daddy Yankee, what records you doing? So let me just break this down for you. And I don't think any NY artists have done this but me. And if I'm wrong, I will say I'm wrong. Correct them, you know, social media. Yes, yes, I'm wrong. There you go. NYC has 7 to 14 radio stations. I was on every one of them. I was on KTU, white stations. I was on La Vega Sapega. La Mega Sapeka. Big Mado, Big Mado. Big Mado's here, Big Mado's here. Come on, Big Mado. He's on your recondo. Listen, we were on, like, I kid you not, if you turned on the radio, period, I was on there. Look at that. And the record was bigger than me, man.

59:47Like, I can't lie to you, the record, like I said, every single radio station in New York, including the sports channel, I was on there because this was a Latino record. A global record. But it was a global record. It was so happy. I remember I went out one time.

1:00:06Tony Yayo:But you feel like rappers felt like you was cheating because we all thought you was just black. Yeah. You was what, Dominican? No, I'm Puerto Rican, my nigga. Yeah, Puerto Rican. Let's get this right. We thought he was just black. Yeah. He's Puerto Rican, man. No, my fault. I'll be honest with you. This is real talk. You didn't know. When one report came out, we just thought you was black. That's why. Nobody thought he was Puerto Rican. We thought it. But that's not fair, because that means people wasn't listening, because my first rhyme, I say, Jose Luis gotcha. Rolling guns in tons. That's not fair.

1:00:34Tony Yayo:You talking about some drug dealer that sound like a connect? Nah. That's not your true love. You got someone's true. Y 'all want a blacklist tonight? We wrote for it. We wrote for it. You talking about the plug. You know what I mean? Back then, you right. But I was showing them, though. I was like, I got a whole million dollars. I thought you was talking about the plug when you said that lie. Yeah, yeah. I was. I was like that back in the day, though. But even me and Nas, we have a record, Music Make These Thugs, Calm Down. His verse is... Music Make These Thugs. Jose Luis gotcha. Golden Guns, Frank Sinatra.

1:01:04Amigo shotcha. On the scene with Binocular. Fajardo, Bayamon. Me and Ramon. Like, Fajardo is a...

1:01:10Tony Yayo:But we thinking you talking to the niggas uptown with the verse. I agree, yeah. I agree. I agree, yeah. I agree. That's why we like you. I agree. That's what made niggas look. That's what made you a little different back then. Yeah. Niggas on the block. Okay, yeah. That's what niggas on the block was like, yo, he talking that plug talk. Oh, okay. Before Jeezy and them. Okay, okay. All right, you giving me that? Like when you go to Harlem. Give me that, yeah. Give me that, yeah. That's a fact. Yeah. Look, let's keep it real. Back in the days, everybody went to Harlem to go re-up, go the Spanish niggas.

1:01:43Tony Yayo:Yeah, because y 'all didn't know that Gazelle De Blanco was in fucking Jackson Heights. Somebody know that. Right down the fucking block from us, bro. Bro. Everybody was in Harlem. Everybody went to Harlem. We're going to sell it Camillo. We're going to sell it Camillo. Shout out to DJ K. Yeah, shout out to DJ K. When you're talking Spanish shit, we like, what the fuck? You're talking about the plug and all that. Yeah, I thought I was up front with it. And then I'll tell you the truth. I'll tell you the truth. That's crazy. We thought you were out of the plug. I'll tell you the truth. Nobody knew you was Puerto Rican at that time.

1:02:11No, I was saying that in every run. I was saying, I'm Puerto Rican. But let me just tell you something. At one point, I couldn't get shows, bro. You know why? We were known as the most notorious foul niggas in New York City. Before y 'all. Just relax.

1:02:29Tony Yayo:I remember the murder unit. Just relax. You said relax. You said relax. You gotta relax. I knew you were about to say something. No, I didn't say nothing. What? What? What? We were banned, right? And if I didn't have a show where people fought... Was there hip-hop police back then? We just didn't know? All right, thank you. You keep throwing me out. of the Ups. Nah, there was. Nigga, we invented the hip-hop police. You forgot Hot 97? It was 9-8. Come on, listen. Hello? Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Hello? Who the fuck you think banged out in Hot 97? Oh, yeah, Foxy and Kim. Hello? I don't know who. I don't know whoever from Hot 97 booked that session, Foxy and Kim.

1:03:06Tony Yayo:You was an idiot. I don't know what you was doing. You had him at the radio at the same time? It actually wasn't Foxy and Kim. Big up to Junior Mafia. Y 'all just happened to bring Foxy with y 'all. No, no, no. Oh, no, y 'all was just Yeah, they were just playing. Yeah, we had that Brooklyn niggas back. That's why. We had Brooklyn back. Yeah, that's right. We had Brooklyn back. But, but, cause of that, that invented the hip hop police. Because. Well, you came out of a song called Bang, Bang, Bang right after the moment. No, no, no. That was before it. That was before. Oh, that was after, bro. Oh, that hit the record.

1:03:38Tony Yayo:No, that was before. Find the record. That's what caused it. Bang, bang. That's what the whole shit was about. That's what caused it. What? Yeah, that's what caused it. That's what caused it. That made the record bigger after that. It did. It did. And the other day, and the other day. Y 'all turned shot nine. We was in, yeah, yeah. We was in, yeah, yeah, yeah. We was in Brooklyn the other day. Tell them how funny radio was back then. Going to Hot 97, you never know who you're going to run into. That's a fact. No, no, no, no, no, no. That was in all the shots by the Hot 97 too. By the way, by the way, by the way.

1:04:06Let's just be clear. Let's just be clear. Being a rapper back then was different. Yes, it was. Like, you know, all you guys, I salute you guys. I salute, you know, because back then, it was, you had to be nice, and then you had to be nice. You had to be nice. You had to be about all types of shit. Nowadays, you get away with just being real. Yeah, you get away.

1:04:30Tony Yayo:To me now, New York is more accepting than outside rappers, but when I was around 50, like going to Columbia, and you running into niggas like Jack, and he got the arms, and he say, He's out of the car. Out of the car. He's out of the car. And he going to Jacob. Jacob not getting watches back and shit like that. You hear him shit like that, Cliff on the phone? Wow. To me, it was extortion city. Right. Like back then on rappers. Yeah. There was some wild niggas that was around rappers. Not you. I don't know about that part. You had Sherm the Worm. You know what I'm saying? Listen, man. You had wild niggas around.

1:05:04Tony Yayo:We had Brooklyn niggas around. I had Brooklyn niggas. I had Bronx niggas. Is Sherm the Worm from Brooklyn? No, Sherm the Worm's from Queensbridge. Well, there you go. He's from Queensbridge, and he moved to Left Rack. Where do you go? And, um, but, but, back then, uh, let me get back to, let me, let me get back, because I want to close the Hot 97 shit. Let me close that, because I don't want to leave that just lingering around. Okay. Um, we fucked Hot 97 up. Like, right now, I walk through Hot 97, I just did it. and the fact is they didn't ask me for my ID. I felt so good. Because after we did that, excuse me, allegedly.

1:05:49Allegedly, there you go. That's right. Allegedly. That's the limitations. Because I was not there. That's right. I was not there. For real. I was not there. It's up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, allegedly. But we still like to say allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. we changed the transition to how anybody visits radio stations you know what I'm saying like you know after that excuse me before that but y 'all don't know I represented for New York City let me just tell y 'all something we did L.A.L.A. I remember that I was so proud of y 'all we did L.A.L.A. let me just tell you something nobody nobody asked yes nobody went and let me just tell you something let me tell you let me tell you something y 'all repped for real I went to L.A.

1:06:37For real. I went to L.A. Look at that, New York, nigga. And they said to me, you know how we doing this? And they say, yo, how many people you have with you? I went to L.A. and I was like, all right, cool, fuck it. After we did L.A. L.A. shit. I went upstairs. Sugar was there. Dog pound there.

1:07:00Tony Yayo:You wasn't scared when Sugar was in there? You was a little shicky. I was. You grabbed that knife or something. I had the 2-5 on me. I was... That's how I used to vote. Facts. Yeah, the little y 'all. You know what I'm saying? All good. All good. I would love the bulls get up in your body. They start traveling. You know how we felt that. And let them little bulls get up in your body. When you see that, nigga... That and the 2-2 get up in your body. They start traveling. No point, you know. And we went up in there, and they actually squashed it with us. You know, that's how me and Corrupt is...

1:07:27I love Corrupt. You know what I'm saying? We did an episode with Corrupt.

1:07:30Tony Yayo:My nigga, he tried to shit on New York a little bit that day. No, no. Everybody does. I don't know why. You were right. Everyone hates on New York. You said I was right. Yes, yes. Oh, my god. You guys are out of here, man. Even him. That's a sob story, man. You know what it is? You know what it is? I'm going to get back to you in the next. You know what it is, man? You know what it is with New York? Like, New York, to me, I feel like back in the days, it was like more nostalgic. You know, I felt like we were in the game. That's a big word. That's a big word, yeah, yeah. What the fuck does nostalgic mean?

1:07:58Tony Yayo:That's like throwback, like thinking about the past. Yeah, like it was just, like, look, you had DMX. Yeah. You had Pun. Yeah. You had Jay. Yeah. You had Nas. Yeah. You had Ewan Capone. Yeah. You had Mob Big. Mob Big. Big. Yeah. It's like we had everybody. So it just felt like, yo, these niggas ran the game for so long. Yeah. I remember going to radio with Banks one time. We went to like some, you know how you go to like the radio summits with the DJs? Yeah. And they was like, we tired of New York niggas. We tired of New York. They said that? Shit. Nah, because when you look at... What do you think about the fans right now?

1:08:34They tired of that, man. Nah, because you gotta... Look at us. Look at us. You gotta remember... We ain't even playing this shit. We look like we a group. New York. New York's out. We look at... You're the only nigga that don't got no New York. That New County. Dang County in this motherfucker. Fuck out of here with that bullshit, man. Come on, man. Fuck that Dang County in there. Fuck out of here.

1:08:49Tony Yayo:Y 'all lucky I had Luke back in the day. Yeah. Because Luke was that nigga. Yes, dude. When you look at New York, hip hop, we go... And we can go to Big Daddy Kane. Right. You know, we ran this shit for so long. I mean, it started in New York. Big Daddy K. I mean, we ran, when you think about it, we ran this shit for so many years. That's like when, you know, ATL got it, Texas. It just was like, fuck it, it's our turn. Like I said, I remember going, like, to markets, like Florida and places. And you go down south, and niggas was like, kind of like, fuck New York. Yeah, they were. We was there.

1:09:21Tony Yayo:Like, that Guna era, trust me. Yeah, they were. I remember we went to some DJ shit, me and Banks, we chilling. And they're like, yeah, we tired of the fucking out of town. play our shit. And I was like, damn, this is changing. We had the markets. No, because think about it. There was a point where New York artists had the markets. You had past DC, you had North Carolina, you had Virginia, you had ATL, you had all the markets, right? Now it seemed like a New York artist that dropped as hot might have, you know, like Buffalo, upstate, you know, parts of New York, Connecticut. But you ain't. And then you got overseas.

1:10:03Tony Yayo:But let me just tell you something. What you skipping over is back then, we had Jersey. We had Long Island. We had Connecticut. We had Philly. They were all riding with us. But now they got their own pride for their own cities now. So like, when I hear people say Virginia, like when I hear people say Virginia is the South, I'd be like, I've never felt like that. Like, and me and this is Pusha T. That's my man. My homie. We like Pusha T. But I'm like, I'm like, yo. You said, like, we got this. He said, that's not homie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But what I'm trying to say is. Right, with Pusha T?

1:10:42Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, yeah. But what I'm trying to say is, for years, I thought Virginia was East Coast. That's a fact. I looked at it as like, yo. I mean, it is East Coast, technically. The Mason-Dissing line. I don't mean to get smart, niggas. It was a capital in the South. I don't mean to get smarter on motherfuckers, but ain't the Mason-Dixon line after that? Yeah. And that's what they consider the... I got smart? I'm sorry. I don't want to be smart. Let me get back to Ignore. It's all good. It's all good. You think it's all good? Let me get back to Ignore. We'll do that sometime. Yeah, but...

1:11:11So now everyone else... Like, I'll be honest with you. I used to go to ATL. Sorry. I used to go to Miami as well. And I used to be like, yo, it's Brooklyn in the house. And niggas would be like, yo! That was the problem. Everybody wanted to be from Brooklyn back in the day. It's Brooklyn in the house. I'm just letting you know. Look, look, look, look here. I did not try to tell you how to do it. Yo, yo, yo, fuck now. That wasn't the answer to you. We heard Brooklyn. But what I want to tell you, look. We heard Brooklyn. He ain't saying it's Queens in the house, right? No, no, no. He said it's Brooklyn in the house.

1:11:42I can't, I can't, I can't. You good? No, no, I ain't going to lie to you. You heard that yet? At one point, everybody in the world, everybody in the world wanted to be from Brooklyn. I'm going to be honest. Thank you. Outside of New York, I can't. I'm not fronting on, you know, Brooklyn is my people. But I used to do that in ATL. You understand what he just said? I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure. I admit. I used to do that in ATL. My bad. I'm fucking you. I'm fucking you out of my back. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. No, no. No, no. I know. Born in Brooklyn. OK. Yeah, but now I can't.

1:12:19Tony Yayo:Now I was going to snuff that. Yeah. I can't. You know I just seen Adam Favis. Adam Favis, you know what I'm talking about? From Interscope Records. He's like, you gonna see, yeah, yo. That's my man. Sorry, I'm changing the subject again. It's all good, man. So what? That's what we do, man. We just chopped it up. I'm the only New York nigga that went through the jungles by myself. Safe. Got the footage to prove it. In fact, the first nigga that I pulled up on I said, yo, homie, you know who I am? The nigga said, yeah, you Lil Norrie. I said, wait a minute. He said, Lil Norrie. I said, how the fuck did I go to the West Coast and become Lil Norrie?

1:13:04And this nigga had a tattoo that said, because I'm Big Norrie. Oh, shit. Did he say Big Norrie? That shit said, Big N-O-R-E.

1:13:11Tony Yayo:Oh, he not talking about the jungles in Brooklyn. He talking about jungles in the West Coast. Oh, shit. Yes. I got lost a little bit. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Come on. I'm with you. I'm giving you the real. I'm giving you the real. So this is when you're smoking these niggas in the way. Hell no. This is the, no, you know what? That is the same time because, no, no, no, no. That's not, no, no. A different time. All right, this is the time where everybody got robbed at the Source Awards. You remember? I remember that back then. You remember that? Everybody, that's 99. That was in Cali, right? That's, yeah, yeah, Cali.

1:13:38Can you name a few rappers that got robbed? Yeah, everybody. Everybody. Everybody, slime. Who was there? I was there. I'm out there like this. Who was there? Don't fall for that. Yo, what? Yo, yo, yo, no, no, no, no, fuck that, nigga. I'm good. This is the real report. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. What year Saucer Awards was this? I ain't going to lie to you. What year was this? Let me tell you. Let me tell you who I was proud of. Nah, I wasn't proud of a lot of people. New York, I came outside, son. What year was this, Norm? 99, 2000. I think I'm not getting that back. 99, 2000. We going to look all this shit up.

1:14:12Hey, get that Twitter. The 99, 2000 Saucer Awards when niggas got robbed. I said I wasn't proud of. Because a lot of New Yorkers, they didn't come outside. They didn't come out. Nas came outside. Nas came outside. Nas came outside. But Nas also told me, man, go out. Go inside. He pulled up. Was like, yo, why are you here? And what I'm trying to tell you, like. So was Bloods and Crips outside?

1:14:37Tony Yayo:Just mad colors? All right. What did it look like? A sea of colors? I love this question. Like, you know the movie Colors? These dudes had hats. they weren't disguised as gang members no they were disguised as regular people they had dockers on you know what I'm saying but you could look and like one thing about gang members you can't energy yeah you can't like you can't like you can't like you can't hide what you're doing so we were looking and um Adam Fabius this is the reason why I brung up Adam Fabius um from Interscope so we hit Adam Fabius who is a regular dude he's a regular dude but we like, yo, we need the yallas, yalla.

1:15:17And he brung out the Yandes. And I had the Yandes. I brung the toughest people that I knew. A lot of Brooklyn niggas with you. I had Brooklyn niggas with me, too. But it was Queens in the Bronx. It was Queens, the Bronx, and Brooklyn niggas with me, yes. But, but, but, I'll tell you like this. Bigger Busta Rhymes as well. No one came outside with me, bro. When I was like, yo, I'm going to the after parties. I'm going through. And Sugar and them had six fours that was all red through the whole shit. And I went to the parties. Like, I did this.

1:15:58Tony Yayo:T, imagine going T in that. You see six fours. And it's after all that L.A.L.A. shit. This is after. You know, I perform L.A.L.A. in L.A. Oh, shit. I'm talking about normal. Yes, yes. I've done this. Like, I've done this. Like, I am. Of course. I love L.A. But let me just tell you something. Just those nostalgic moments, man. I'm a real New Yorker. I held New York down when New York needed to be. I stepped up Big, and I said, Big, we went back at these dudes. And Big said to me, he was so... He said, don't do it. He was so smart back then. He was less than 24-year-old because he died at 24. And he said to me, Noreen, nah, don't do it.

1:16:40I'm not going to release it. So I don't know if y 'all remember. back in the days, it was mixtapes. It was a Bad Boy mixtape. And in the Bad Boy mixtape, they hired different DJs. Doo-wop, Stretch Armstrong. So it was Doo-wop, Stretch Armstrong, and DJ Clue. Stretch Armstrong. Yeah, Stretch Armstrong hired us to do this. And we did the L.A.L.A. And, by the way, this was unpopular. Damn it. This was, yeah. And, like, I love the fact that I could tell you. I was so happy I did that shit, man. Because I was so mad nobody wasn't doing that. Nobody, nobody. I was like, what the fuck? I ain't going to lie, if he was out back then, if I was out back then, I would have been disrespecting everything.

1:17:19Queens! But I was sitting back as a shorty. It took some queens out there. Yeah, I ain't going to fight. I give you a problem. Because I was sitting back as a shorty just looking like, why the fuck is nobody saying niggas are scared? These niggas are scared? Well, hold on. Let me give you a slurry. It's exclusive. It's exclusive.

1:17:36We dropped the record. Prodigy. says, I don't want to be a part of the record. Dang. So if you listen to L.A.L.A. record, his verse is off. Hmm. But then if you listen to a different version of it, his verse is off. I was listening to his Prysi version. I told you, I'll take it over. Drink, champ. This is now my show. Okay, let's go. We know mine. Let's go. We're with you. Let's go. I'll put y 'all on it anyway. He's gonna look at you. He's gonna look at you. Queens, nigga. All down, man.

1:18:14So, now, now, listen. Now, listen.

1:18:16Tony Yayo:You remember that, nigga? Now, listen. D. Rifkin calls us and says, Steve Rifkin's still my man to this day. He was scared for that one. He was scared. He said, take Prodigy off. Wow. Because. Malkin' it wise. All right. I'm gonna be out. That virgin was out already. Hold on, hold on. It was out. Hear me out. We didn't know they was dissing us. Because it was just saying, New York, New York, big city, a drink. But they never said, fuck Biggie or fuck Gary. They actually said that they were bigging up New York. They said that. Get the fuck out of here. You believe that shit? You hug me, believe that shit?

1:18:54Corrupted in your death. He from L.A., remember? Most of the niggas kicking the bilge. Yo, shout out to Snoop. Niggas is kicking over the bilge. No, no, no, that was before that. No, no, no. Relax, bro. You get crazy. You don't even know what that thing is. Come on, man. They were shouting them out. You want to just jump?

1:19:09Tony Yayo:No, he said they were shouting them out. No, no, hold on. That's what they said. Daz and Kropp said you believe that shit? Mm-mm-mm. He heard it. He heard one to believe that shit. That's what I'm saying. All right, I got you. He heard it too and he believed it too. So you believe it. No, no, no. You believe that. Let me finish. Let me finish.

1:19:29So we have to take prodigy off. We have no deal. We have no choice. We have no way to take him. Then we do the video.

1:19:41Tony Yayo:Right. Hit him up comes out the next day. Prodigy is like, I want to be back on the record. Ha ha ha! Look at that. But here, Prodigy. You're a buddy. Again. But hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. The reason why Prodigy wanted to be taken off of the record is because his line, and you can go look this up. I love this. That's the first time you've been telling this shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's dope. He said, JFK on our way to L.A. None of us spoke about L.A. None of us spoke about anything beef. And he was the only one that said, JFK on our way to L.A. Now, so when you look this up now, okay, if you want me to get deeper?

1:20:25Of course. He used that same verse on Nas's Real Niggas Rap. Yeah, Real Niggas Rap. It's the same exact verse. Go pull that up. But then Pac dissed him, and I was really, really, really, really mad because I wanted Pac to diss me. You wanted to be like, nigga, come at me. Let's go. Yeah, I really, and I love the outlaws. I speak to them But I wanted that I wanted that smoke Because they said something about you They did not They did not No no no they did not I'm big up to Outlaws I love them They my people But what I'm saying is It was crazy because Had Prodigy Like stuck with that There might not be a hit them up There might not be a hit them up Look at that Yeah so I mean this is I'm giving y 'all This is real shit This is real shit.

1:21:26Tony Yayo:This is some tragic stories on The Real Report. Look at that. That was great. Yes, yes, yes. Hold up. We got to argue more. Hold up. We got to argue more on this shit. Yeah, hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Next time. I also know. I did want to know, how did y 'all come out with this whole podcast? I really wanted to know, what made y 'all even do that? Yeah, that's a good point. OK. I really wanted to know. We were getting into it. It's the 10-year anniversary. OK, yeah. You were crazy. Like, how did the magic? How did that happen? How did y 'all do this whole shit? He moved down to Miami. He was working out of my studio.

1:21:50Right. And we was working on record. He's like, he said, bring me back to hip hop after the reggaeton stuff. He knew I was a diehard hip hop head. So I'm like, all right, let's go. Let's do it. Came to Miami. I do remember that. Came to Day County. Okay. All right. We get all right. Queens came to Day County. All right. Queens came to Day County. That's how they go. Yeah. All right. That's my brother right here. All right. And so in those studio sessions, we linked up with Leo G, who was at XM Radio at the time. Remember 66 Raw? I don't know if y 'all got to ask you. That moment, that moment. So he knew him.

1:22:18He connected us. And he's like, yo, y 'all want your own show on XM. Right. Wow. And this is our studio in South Miami. He's like, we usually don't let people send in shows. Like, they have to come to, they were in D.C., XM at the time. He's like, but y 'all could do it and send it in, and we'll air it every week. And we did a show. It's called Militainment Crazy Raw Radio. It's on YouTube. People check it out. It looks and sounds like Drink Chans had all our homies. We drinking Tiger Boat. We talking wild. We didn't have many guests, though, because we in South Miami, nobody was coming to check us.

1:22:43We had like Fad Joe. A couple people came through. And so we did that show for like three years after the merger, Sirius XM. We was on there. Different channels, like they had Backspin, Hip Hop Nation, different channels on XM. We finished doing that. He did a new CNN album. He went on tour. I started managing a group that started going on tour. They were signed to Tech N9ne. Yeah, Tech N9ne. Tech N9ne. Tech N9ne is easy. So you know how they tour. You know how the merch he got is. Yeah, you know how they tour. He's popping. Yeah, Tech N9ne is here. So we went on the road immediately with Tech N9ne.

1:23:14So we stopped doing the show because we didn't make no money off that show. It was just promo. Yep. But we loved doing the show. We had a lot of fun. So I had a homie. His name is Godfrey. He had a podcast called Gamertag. It was like a gaming hip-hop show. And he was always like, yo, you should do a podcast. And podcasting hip-hop wasn't a thing. It was. It was considered like computer people. You called us for that time. I'm like, what the fuck is Nobi doing? You know what? That's just my name. So I'm going to fuck with him anyway. But I'm like, what the fuck? Nobody knew what it was. Exactly.

1:23:43Tony Yayo:But do you think, like, with Joe Buttons, because they feel like you and Joe Buttons started it first. They were hurt now. Joe Buttons was early. Joe was early. He was early. His props. His props. They were both like super early. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. So, homie kept saying to me, do the podcast. I told him, look, we could do that show he was doing as a podcast. Other people hit him up, like Combat Jack, rest in peace, Combat Jack. Legend. He hit him up and said, yo, that shit you doing at your fan could be a podcast. So for years, I'm telling him, let's do this podcast. He was, like, unsure about it.

1:24:17Like, I already did this all fucking all this Spanish music shit. Niggas ain't fucking... No, you're right. Kind of. Kind of. He didn't want to do something that looks... Maybe people... Oh, that's some corny shit. Copy. Copy. At that time, it was nerds doing this shit. Of course. I got it. Because I don't want to diss nerds. And, like, I don't want people to be like... No, because Scythe wasn't a nerd. But, I mean, I understand... Scythe Sounds and Rosenberg. Unless you're hip. It was people that was hip to the money early that was doing this shit. Well, they wasn't making money yet, really. They wasn't making that kind of money.

1:24:44They really wasn't. They was doing it for the love. Yeah, kind of like how we did the serious show. All right, got you. So then, mind all that shit, back in those studio sessions, we was gambling in my studio. He was recording records, drinking, smoking. He was doing poker. He was playing poker, and I was recording records. And then we was drinking all night, smoking. And then at the end of the night, whoever wasn't standing up, we would say, you're not a drink champ. So now I'm telling you how the name came. Oh, shit. I said, you got a drink champ. Oh, look at that. Okay, okay. So I said, yo.

1:25:15And this is years before we do a podcast. I didn't know what it was. I said, I love that drink champ. So I bought drinkchamps.com and drinkchamp, the single in the plural. And then I grabbed the handles, Twitter, IG, copywrote that shit. Then I had my homie, who is a famous artist out of Carroll City, Scam. He did the Beats Rhyme and Life album cover for Tribe Called Quest. He did the Slim Shady artwork. Yeah, the Slim Shady shit. Slim Shady outfit. Scam. Scam is a legend. He's my homie. He did the logo for us. I said, make a logo for this. He made the famous logo now. And then my homie, that same dude that was telling us about podcasts, Godfrey, he got a deal for his podcast with CBS.

1:25:52He's like, yo, I could introduce you. And I told him, he's like, yo, that sounds kind of big, CBS. I like CBS. That sounds quite big. You know y 'all. You know y 'all. I am going to throw Halley Oop to Brooklyn because what finally really convinced him is he did Tack Stone's show. Yes. And he came back saying, I could see now someone like me doing this. Because he did it with Tack Stone. Well, let me pick up the Tack Stone one. But it was also a prodigy's book. Prodigy's book, he had said something about me that wasn't accurate. And I had to respond. Got you. And I went to the Breakfast Club, and I went to, uh, I don't know if he's right with Tack Stone, but I...

1:26:38Yeah, Recipe's Prodigy. Recipe's Prodigy, yeah.

1:26:40Tony Yayo:He ruffled a lot of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a little crazy. But, uh, so I walked through Toronto Airport. I remember this like it was yesterday. And a person just looked at me and pointed at me and said, Breakfast Club. And I was like, yo, I either owe them money or they really owe me some money. because why? And then that's when I called them. It's the same week. I did Tag Stone. I did Hot 97. But I also want to give Angie Martinez her props. Oh, definitely. Angie Martinez kept hitting me and saying to me, yo, Nori, I'm going to be sick on Thursday because she's that much of a legend.

1:27:22And she was like, can you fill in for me? And I was like, yes. She was like, yo, would you like to, like, you know, shit, I'm being very careful how I say it. She wanted me to co-host, father. She wasn't going to be there. No, no, she wasn't going to be there. She wanted you to host the show. And I went in. Fill in. Oh, you the one say fill in? Yeah, fill in. I'm trying to let him go this far, but I know he made more. And I was like, 1-800. And then I started to learn the actual number. I still know it. 1-800-223-9797. Look at that. And I was just like, you know what? I could kind of do this shit.

1:27:55I kind of like could fuck with this but I didn't know. I didn't know. And then I knew he was good for this. That's why I like I knew he was perfect for this shit. So credit his shit. We took the approach it was the same shit. I'm the DJ. He's the rapper. We're going to take this into the podcast world. You know what I'm saying? I knew he was he was perfect for this shit. So let's go. I'll put it all together. You know just come and he brought all you know all his relationships. I brought what I did. I brought my side of it. I'm behind the scenes doing shit. Let's go. Let's get it done. and we got it done.

1:28:24Yo, listen. When we have 463 million. Oh, yeah. There's like some crazy stats. Billion. Like, we put a lot of stats. The stats, we're humble about it, but you're doing your numbers. Impressions. OK. Like, we really, like. Y 'all made the complex list? Yeah. What number was y 'all again? They put me at 35. But they always keep me out of the fucking list. I don't know. Comments don't like me, man. Yeah, Comments. That's because they never put me in a list. I don't know why. Complex. They put Gillywaddle. They just do it. You said you got to understand. What about the hip hop? When the niggas say, when the niggas say.

1:28:59No, listen, no, yeah, you got to understand, gang. You don't got to grab my own. Call me, though. But when the niggas say Ice Cube is better than Biggie, they not put you on the motherfuckers. Oh, I ain't got to. You understand? They not doing it. You got to put my man on the list. He's a part of the show.

1:29:13Tony Yayo:Nah, come, listen, complex put him on the show. Hell yeah. And you know what's crazy? Biggie would have said Ice Cube. I believe him. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Biggie was a big fan of NWA. He was a big fan of that. You know, rappers do always salute their OGs and things like that. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. I understand what you said like that, but I don't think Big would have said, nah, nah, nah. I don't know. Did you see LeBron recently? He just said he was the GOAT of all time? I just seen it there. LeBron is my guy, and I do think LeBron is the GOAT.

1:29:44Okay, where's my son at? I'm going with Jordan. They left? They left? All right, cool. What you got to say about that? I'm going with Jordan. I'm going with Jordan, man. Jordan.

1:29:55Tony Yayo:I heard somebody else in here say LeBron. Jordan, Kobe. LeBron, my God, there we go. Look, Jordan, Kobe, then LeBron. Nah, you can't tell. Some people are going to look and say LeBron, Jordan, Kobe. Jordan, Kobe. Yo, you telling us we got a rap? Yeah, yeah, all right. How long we been in for like two hours? Only on the Dream Chance? That's how we do it with Dream Chance. In the real court. Let's bring it back to Miami. Let's bring it back to Miami. OK, cool. Let's go. Let's argue with Motser. Yeah, I'm with that. I'm with that.

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