The Real Report - Paul Rosenberg & DJ Whoo Kid on Eminem’s rise, 50 Cent & G-Unit era, ICONIC Jay-Z & Dr. Dre stories

4 Apr 2026 · 51 min · 21 chapters

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In short

Paul Rosenberg (Eminem’s longtime manager/attorney) and DJ Whoo Kid trade origin stories of Eminem’s rise, the 50 Cent/G-Unit era, and iconic behind-the-scenes moments involving Jay-Z and Dr. Dre, plus debate mixtapes vs streaming and DJ life on the road.

Guest backgrounds

Rosenberg describes himself as a Detroit law student who met Proof, later becoming part of Eminem’s early orbit and helping connect artists to Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre. Whoo Kid is a veteran mixtape DJ known for mixtape exclusives, “drops,” and touring with G-Unit.

Key claims

Eminem’s early breakthrough started with Proof bringing Rosenberg to hear him; Rosenberg later received early Slim Shady material on cassette. Rosenberg says 50 Cent’s tape came to them before Eminem’s full mainstream push, and Dre’s interest was triggered after hearing Eminem’s promo tape. Whoo Kid claims mixtapes changed lives because they were global without social media.

Notable examples

Proof-managed hip-hop shop open mics; Rosenberg buying Eminem’s Infinite cassette for $6; 50 being inspired by Dre’s Ferrari; “Free Yayo” shirts reaching Grammys (Eminem wore one while Rosenberg was incarcerated); Whoo Kid’s “DAT” stealing/leaking stories; G-Unit mixtape “Automatic Gunfire” and Ja Rule skits.

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Turbulence Tony Introduces Guests

3:10 to 4:10

Turbulence Tony introduces Paul Rosenberg and DJ Whoo Kid.

“I'm Turbulence Tony and it's the real report live from New York City.”

Memories and Early Connections

4:10 to 5:32

Paul Rosenberg shares memories of meeting Eminem through Proof.

“Make sure y 'all like, share, and subscribe.”

Paul's First Encounter with Eminem

5:32 to 8:23

Paul recounts his first impression of Eminem and his early rapping days.

“man yo shady aftermath people don't you know they don't know how it feels to be like in the studio with greats like Eminem Dr.”

Mixtape Era vs. Streaming Era

8:23 to 10:58

DJ Whoo Kid discusses the impact of mixtapes compared to streaming.

“So it was like the bare bones of what became the Slim Shady EP.”

50 Cent's Rise to Fame

10:58 to 12:07

Discussion on how 50 Cent was introduced to Eminem and his early success.

“And then 50 came out with this amazing story that got us to this guy.”

Memorable Moments in the Music Scene

12:07 to 14:01

Sharing anecdotes from their experiences in the music industry.

“right so we were doing the release party for um for marshall's album and we flew him out there to la 50 um and i remember um we were in the studio and we were actually doing i think some of the mix downs for the film.”

Behind the Scenes: G-Unit Stories

14:01 to 18:08

Hear firsthand accounts of the early G-Unit days from Paul Rosenberg and DJ Whoo Kid.

“Anyway, But anyway, it was always easy for me to get women because I was behind pause 50 while he's performing.”

The Impact of Free Yeo

18:09 to 21:49

Discover the significance of the Free Yeo shirts and their role in hip-hop culture.

“He said, you know how much I'm paying this guy, bro?”

The Day of Release

21:50 to 25:56

Listen to the exhilarating moment of DJ Whoo Kid's release from jail and its aftermath.

“crazy popular after that yeah cause people started to know you know but that was that was big I got you.”

The Impact of Streaming on Music Industry

28:49 to 30:46

Understand how streaming transformed the music industry.

“So it's really, you're paying for the convenience of not having to download music, put it into iTunes, make sure it's labeled correctly, make your playlist, like you don't have to do any of that.”
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Eminem and 50 Cent's Success Story

30:46 to 32:31

Explore the rise of Eminem and 50 Cent in the music scene.

“You can't survive a 50 % decrease in revenue, but somehow, you know, they held together and the major labels stayed together and, um, they made it through.”

The Rap Olympics and Eminem's Breakthrough

32:31 to 36:02

Learn about Eminem's early struggles and his path to fame.

“You know, how did you and Em hook up with Dre?”

DJ Whoo Kid's Mixtape Strategies

36:02 to 37:39

Discover DJ Whoo Kid's tactics to create successful mixtapes.

“You remember going to Jimmy Alvin house?”

Inside the World of Exclusive Recordings

37:39 to 42:00

Get insights into the secretive world of recording leaks.

“He bought a Lamborghini off of mixtapes.”

A &R Stories and Sneaky Moves

42:00 to 44:24

Learn about the behind-the-scenes antics of A &R in the music industry.

“I would dress like, I would wear like a button up.”

Super Bowl Encounters and DJ Tricks

44:24 to 45:52

Discover amusing anecdotes from Super Bowl encounters with Jay-Z and Dre.

“And then you can see, like, oh, he robbed you too.”

The Evolution of Mixtapes

45:52 to 47:36

Explore the shift in mixtape culture and the role of DJs in hip hop history.

“So I'll call it, like, Kill a Nigga Remix, Uncle Murder.”

Celebrity Collaborations and Their Impact

47:36 to 49:28

Uncover how celebrity features influenced mixtape popularity.

“He did the bad boy stuff back in the days.”

Changes in the Music Scene

49:28 to 51:16

Discuss the current state of DJing and the rise of social media personalities.

“Of course, because of the personality and all the things he do.”

Nostalgia for Tangible Music

51:16 to 53:18

Reflect on the cultural significance of physical music formats like vinyl.

“Rob Markman, You know what I saw the other day?”

Hip Hop's Cultural Impact

53:18 to 55:26

Delve into the cultural essence of hip hop and its connection to youth.

“I had his first baby model with the gun, with the shotgun.”
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3:51Tony Yayo:You know the vibe. I'm Turbulence Tony and it's the real report live from New York City. Make sure y 'all like, share, and subscribe. Make some noise for the infamous icon, mogul, Paul Rosenberg. Oh! Oh! Shady Aftermath and the infamous, one of the best DJs in the world I've seen to do a worldwide tune in mixtape. He's been there from the beginning. Make some noise for DJ Who Kid! You doing better? Yo, who kid? I can't believe I got this guy, Paul Rosenberg. I know, it's like getting that Rick Rubin. It's like you got a Tupac sighting. I made him come for just for some cover. Definitely. Definitely.

4:48No, you know I'm not going to ask you. I'm his lawyer. He started out as our lawyer. I'll defer any questions that I don't really want to answer to Who Kid. Oh, man, look at that.

4:55Tony Yayo:Oh, no. Well, for me, you know, I'm just glad I got you guys here. It brings back a lot of memories. Happy to be here. Yes. Good, man. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, man. Congratulations, by the way. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Shout out to everybody who's watching. The value. Doing great. when I see you I have flashbacks of me being on the run like with my brother's passport and we was in Barcelona you got caught with your brother's passport yeah so I'd say you violated your probation yeah I had my brother's passport right and I remember being in Barcelona with you guys and Cigars and Theo and Who Kid those were the days those were the days man yo shady aftermath people don't you know they don't know how it feels to be like in the studio with greats like Eminem Dr.

5:39Tony Yayo:Dre and being around guys like you. Like, how did you meet Eminem? I met Eminem through Proof. Wow. Yeah. So when I was in law school in Detroit, I went to University of Detroit Law School. I used to go to the hip hop shop on Saturdays. And it was a Maurice Malone store. You know, Maurice Malone jeans. Yeah, yeah, Maurice Malone. So he had his store. And they used to clear out all the clothing racks on Saturdays. and they used to have open mics and mc battles and proof was the manager of the store if you can believe that wow he managed the store and he also would host the battles so one saturday he pulled me aside and he said yo i want you to stay after i got a kid i want you to meet i want you to uh to hear him rap and i was like all right cool whatever and he was like he's a white boy

6:31you probably don't know this but i used to rap proof knew me as a rapper so that's why he was hold on what was the rap name paul bunyan so so he was giving me the business as another white rapper like i got a white rapper so i was like cool you know happy to meet him and at the time like you know i was supposed to be the guy who was going to be the music lawyer for the hip-hop artist in Detroit. So I was, you know, new Proof and new JD. Everybody knows him as Jay Dilla, right? Right, Jay Dilla. Slum Village and all those guys. So I stayed after. Proof cleared everybody out. And this kid walks in.

7:15And at the time, he had like a really, really low cut. He was wearing a white sweatsuit. kind of looked like, you know, a little schleppy, you know, a little scrubby. And I was like, all right. And he goes, you know, proof was like, yo, throw on instrumental. So he rapped. And, you know, he was good. The, you know, heavens didn't part and the sun didn't shine down and think it was like the next coming. So you wasn't that impressed at first? I thought he was good. Okay. Right? I thought he was good. I thought he was good to really good. Did I think he was the best thing? No. He wasn't there yet.

7:52Gotcha. Right? So a little time went on, and I used to come back every Saturday. And one Saturday, he was there again, and he was selling an album on cassette, right? Right. Hand to hand for six bucks. And it was the Infinite album. Wow. His first album. So I bought it from him for six bucks. And again, good. Really good. Definitely a lot of potential, but it wasn't there yet. Right? so i graduated law school moved to new york um and i stayed in touch with everybody and in like i think it was probably early 97 i was talking to uh who used to be my old dj that was the same dj that was spinning the records at the hip-hop shop dj head not the same dj head that everybody knows from la a different dj head and um he said you have to check out the new stuff that eminem's doing and i was like great but i don't know how to get in touch with him so he passed me his number and i called him up and i said hey do you remember me and he said yeah of course i said can you send me the new stuff you're working on yeah i'll send it to you cool so he mailed it to me remember there's no mp3s no nothing no no there was email but you weren't sending files right yeah yeah so he sends me this cassette and on it was like uh just don't give a fuck uh no one's iller a record called Slim Shady and Just the Two of Us, the early version of it.

9:17So it was like the bare bones of what became the Slim Shady EP. Wow. So then I was like, okay. You was impressed. He's got it because he figured out his voice. He figured out his style. He became unique. He wasn't trying to sound like other people at that point, right? So he had come into his own. So that's the beginning of the story.

9:38Tony Yayo:Wow. That's a hell of a story. We got DJ Who Kid, one of the biggest DJs in the world, mixtape DJs, our DJ, my guy. What do you feel about the mixtape era versus the streaming era right now? What do you like better, and what do you feel about it? It kind of, like, works hand in hand because, you know, ever since I see a lot of rappers are using my drops, you know, bringing back me, Clue. You know, I just did something with it. Because they want that energy, right? Yeah. It's kind of like, you know, the G-Nit thing. this it's like something that they just like people grow with that like it's kind of like you know wu-tang was my energy to grow right to who i am but to these young kids out here they they listen they listen to our mixtapes which freaking changed their lives like people were sold tapes to pay bills like i i never i never saw people like there's so many different stories of survival depression uh some guy didn't commit suicide because of the music like you you get all these I'm sure you get that a lot with Eminem also.

10:41Like, it shows how powerful, like, there's a difference between music and a movement where it's, like, global. And like he said, there was no internet. There was nothing. Like, to for us to be global with no social media, no real YouTube, like. Off of mixtapes. That's crazy. And back then it was like, what, Biggie Tupac that was global? And then 50 came out with this amazing story that got us to this guy. Like, what was the system when 50 Cents of Future was it? Was it Sotomayor got the tape and then gave it to y 'all? Yeah, so Theo was representing him, and he was like, you know, you need to check this out.

11:15And I was, you know, blown away by it. That was, like, right out of the gate. You heard the tape before Eminem? Yeah. Okay, gotcha. So then I passed it to Marshall. And at the time, he was working on his album, plus we were doing 8 Mile, right? Wow. So he had a lot going on. but um got him to focus on and he was like yo i really like this and he was like i i don't know you know do you think we should we could do this on our own um and at the time i think we just had d12 and maybe obi sign to the label and um we just thought because of the help we would need on on production and sort of the you know base of credibility that it would add to to bring it to got you so we brought it to dre um and he was like okay let's you know we got to meet him right so we were doing the release party for um for marshall's album and we flew him out there to la 50 um and i remember um we were in the studio and we were actually doing i think some of the mix downs for the film.

12:27Like the... The eight-man film? Yeah, on the big soundstage. And he came by, Dre came by, and, you know, 50's talked about it. He saw Dre's Ferrari and got super inspired. That's crazy. Ferrari at 50. Yeah. So, you know, we met with him and just sort of hit it off and did the deal.

12:51Tony Yayo:Definitely. Come on, whole kid. What do y 'all, are you serious man? Come on, you be on Shay 4, 5 all the time man. You know better my brother. You know better man. He's answering it. Call me back later ho. Why are these whores, bro? You guys are viral now. Yo, Who Kid, tell me how you do it on the road. Cause you, I always call Who Kid the Pizzle master. Yeah, definitely. How do you, like when we're going to Italy, how do you have a girl automatically in the room? Oh man, why? Who Kid, that's how you do it man. I feel like you know like the - Those were good times. The clean cut version is like I was involved with creating an amazing situation with the shows.

13:28So it's either your 50 Cent was always first. Back then we were, we had no, we had no, you know, you know how it is like it goes up and down. Like who's first, who's second, who's third. He's got the trickle down. Yeah. I was number three. Like Banks was number two. What about this guy? He was locked up. No, I was. Oh, you mean that at that point? Yeah, at that point. Yeah, he wasn't around like in the beginning of the moisture days, you know, so. for, yeah, but it's like they always... Crazy. I never had issues getting women. The moisture days. The pause.

14:01Tony Yayo:Moisture is his word. I don't care. It's still a pause. Liquifying days. That's not better. That's another pause. Thank you, boy. Thank you, boy. That's a pause. Come on. Anyway, But anyway, it was always easy for me to get women because I was behind pause 50 while he's performing. So the visuals was just too crazy. So yeah, I've always had women in the room. I don't know why. They call me Captain Saberhole because I would make sure they'd get home. I'm the guy that's like, why are you doing this? You could do better. You're beautiful. Who Kid was one of the funniest guys on the road? like there's so many stories, good times.

14:46Tony Yayo:And I feel like, you know, the money, the cars, the jewelry, the good times with you guys was the best. Can you admit, like I tell people this story all the time. When I first met them, I had to go, this is after 50 got shot. So for me to get my interview, you know, I had to go meet 50. But all of them was there. Yale, banks, everything. Guns everywhere. Where was it? It was in Charmoney's basement. Charmoney basement. Yeah. So I walked down there and it's funny because outside they had this dirty ass van. Like, what was that van? The Chrysler Dodge, no AC. It was run down. Super run down. And then you get down there and it's like not really crazy lit, but you see the vests, you see the guns everywhere.

15:25You think it's like, and this is real. You didn't turn around and leave? I wanted to, but you know. You had to get the interview. Because I never met these guys, you know. So can you tell me what was your first reaction? Because when I saw you, it felt like you wanted to rob me. Because I don't know. You probably did.

15:40Tony Yayo:No, I mean, I didn't want to rob you. I never wanted to rob you. Banks had an attitude. He wasn't talking to nobody because he was conservative. So you look like you wanted to rob me. You know what I'm saying? I don't think I look like a robber. Who cares? Always my boy. This is my guy. Nah, but you know what I think? Because of the situation they were in at the time. The situation y 'all were in, like high alert. So I think you just was not trying to hear. Because 50 situation kind of turned into our situation. So he was told us, like, if you ain't ready for what's going on, I don't want you to get to be around, which is smart.

16:14Tony Yayo:It's cool. You know, but that's why the infamous question, when he said, I asked you three questions and then he asked me, what would you do? Like I come at me with a Uzi, like, are you gonna? And I told him I'm outta here. I don't know you like, I just met this guy. So he was just like, you know what? You're hired because you didn't tell me. You tell the truth. Yeah, you didn't tell me you gonna jump in and shoot. You know how the, you know, every, every G unit loser in the hood with the, with the fake taps would tell a pity what he wants to hear. but now he understand like who's around him like 50 was such a like he calculated every every movement like all right if who could at this moment don't really know who i am i know how to move now you know which is it's kind of crazy after he told me this but i think being truthful i don't need to be gangster i came from like you know djing for cnn and mob deep seeing shootouts with them cash money i didn't even know that yeah the first person i dj for was uh because when i He just came around.

17:11Tony Yayo:I didn't know. I thought he just DJed for G-Unit. I didn't know. You never even spoke about that, I don't think, because I don't think a lot of people knew Cee and then, Nori and them? You was with Chris Lighty at that time? At Violet? Yeah, so I had to find my way. Chris Lighty was my mentor and Russell. So for me to get... I'm Queens, so I'm in Hollis too. Springfield. DJ Kluh was a block away. It was so much Queens and shit going on that me robbing the industry, I learned from Kluh. You know what I'm saying? You learn from Clue. Yeah, yo, this is like crazy. Like I remember, yo, remember I had, I remember Paul's wedding, which was crazy.

17:47Tony Yayo:It was like expensive. You were the featured DJ. Yeah, I featured DJ. It was DJ AM. He was like, DJ AM, move out of the way. That's crazy. That was crazy. He played Sexy back about 20. I knew me thinking he's a DJ when we in the car, man. He played Sexy back 20 times in a row. So Paul comes up to me and he says, yeah, yo, this is, you know who this guy is? He passed away, right? DJ AM, rest in peace to him. He was like, this is DJ AM. He said, you know how much I'm paying this guy, bro? And I was like, oh shit. So what you mean? You wasn't happy with him? Well, I had a great DJ that was supposed to be there for the party, and Yayo decided to get on the tables.

18:24Tony Yayo:Oh, so you were trying to tell Yayo to get off the DJ? Yeah, of course. Because this guy's DJ AM. I got the best DJ in the world here. What are you doing? Got you. Got you. One of the greatest DJs in the world, and I didn't realize it. You just start having fun. Yeah, I just started having fun. Come on bro. He was playing sexy back over and over and over again. It was a big record at the time. Don't get me wrong. And I felt wild cause I know DJ AM rest in peace wanted to slap me in my head. And I know Paulie definitely wanted to slap me in my head. So he was like this. I didn't even realize how big of a DJ was.

18:58Tony Yayo:These guys like DJs, you know, get a lot of money. You gotta remember like 50 was there. Dre was there. Jimmy was there. The Cypress Hill guys were there. Like, you know, all my clients were there. And Yeo on the one side. So you had to leave your wife and go let Yeo know he was doing a little bit too much. He wanted to smack me. I had to shut him down. All right. Got you, bro. Got you. In a very nice way. In a nice way. I'm like, oh, shit. My bad. I was just always overexcited because I came out of jail. And I always give Eminem. Jimmy Iovine was there. He was like, is that who, kid? I was like, no.

19:35Tony Yayo:Who, kid? That's Tony A. Oh, I know Tony, yo. I swear to God, my wildest experience was eating on top of Interscope, balcony, and it was 50, me, and Jimmy Iovine. And it was, I didn't say a thing. I just sat there and just always let the bosses talk. What did you eat, though? You're famous for your recipes. You know, it was crazy. I don't know what we ate, but it was Jimmy Iovine, so it was good food. It was some type of exotic. It was, all right, gotcha, gotcha. It was a funny moment because I remember Jimmy saying, 50, we're back. Cool. I can put your plaque back on the wall. And I was just laughing.

20:12Tony Yayo:I just sat there and laughed because I just watched the bosses be the bosses. That's why I appreciate you guys taking time to come out here. You know what I wanted to ask you? How did the whole process of the Free Yeo shirts went with Eminem? That's what I was about to bring up. Because this guy was legendary with that. How did that whole process come up? Free Yeo, it became a slogan. that everybody was saying. And we all wanted to see him free. It was genuine. So when we did the, it was the Grammys, Marshall performs Lose Yourself at the Grammys with The Roots. And he wore the Free A-O shirt that we had made up.

20:49Tony Yayo:Definitely. Shout to Tracy. Shout to Mark. What was that like for you? You was in jail. I was in C-73, Tula. Rob Markman, Wow. Rob Markman, And that was the most amazing thing in my life. Because they could have forgot about me. I was in jail. You know, it's music business, but to me, it always felt like a family. Rob Markman, I probably would have forgot about you, but go ahead. Rob Markman, Yeah, I know you probably. Rob Markman, But it was like, it always, for me, when we came into business, it always felt like a family with Shady, Aftermath, Who Kid, Violet. It always felt like a family to me.

21:25Tony Yayo:so when he wore that and I'm locked down you know shout to Tracy you know did a whole bunch of stuff for me Shady send me stuff 50 send me stuff so for me I just I felt good and then I'm on Riker so you know you gotta ask people yo can we use can I watch this because you know they might wanna fight or stab you over the TV how did the prisoners react to that nah it was good that was big that's when they wanted to kinda like put me in PC on Riker's Island oh cause you got crazy popular after that yeah cause people started to know you know but that was that was big I got you. Shady called me, you know, and people from Shady called me and it was like, yo, M's, gonna wear the shirt.

22:00Tony Yayo:I was like, wow, you're gonna do something special. They didn't tell me what it was. And then the free Ayo shirt came about. Shout out to Eminem for that. Love you, boss you. Shout out to Eminem for that. How many did we sell, though? Oh, man. I mean, I got a check when I came home. They got bootleg like crazy. I got a check when I came home. Who Kid was probably selling more Ayo shirts than anybody. Who Kid on here with a bootleg Eminem shirt on right now and we with Paul Rose. He said he got it. This guy is crazy, bro. I promise you, we did not make that shit. This guy is crazy right here. It's a coinkydink.

22:32I had it on today. I didn't make it. I thought I was coming in. I see Paul. I was like, what? That's crazy right there to me. That's crazy.

22:40Tony Yayo:Yo, what's your favorite G-Unit mixtape? I'm asking you. I got to ask you because you're the DJ. Automatic gunfire. That's when we killed Ja Rule in one day? The best Ja Rule skits was on there. That was in the studio. That was crazy. The best Ja Rule skits were like, and shout out, I don't want to snitch him out, but he did all the skits. He's like a big executive right now. Isn't that crazy that he's a huge executive? I don't know who you're talking about. Yeah, I don't know. We don't snitch him. Nah, this the real report. You got the talk on here, you kid. Who did the skits? You know who did it.

23:08All right, well, his name was Riggs. I don't know if this is a real name. You never do that? Oh, yeah, well, I forgot which ones you were talking about. Shout out to Riggs.

23:17Tony Yayo:Yeah, Riggs. That was, yo, shout out to Riggs. We never shouted him out because he was, was like in the labels you know he was a and r so it's like the easiest guy to beat up would be rigged so we just i'd never released that information it's too late now he's like and he did a bunch of skits he just gets with alchemist too yeah yeah but they were so perfect man let me ask you a question when you came out right because i remember the day you came out right first of all you looked crazy your eyes were wild people were throwing jewelry on you stuffing money in your pockets It's giving you fur coats and shit.

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23:56Tony Yayo:He should have got down with us. What did that feel like? Oh, it felt like, yo, you could never get a high like that again. Because I'm in the shock program at this point. We signed with Eminem. Like, even the first, when 50 signed, I remember being in Theo's office. And that's when Cristal was, like, popping. And it was on the phone. And I think it was me, 50, Smurf, somebody else. Banks, maybe? I think Banks was there too at that time, but it was only a couple of us in Theo's office. And Em was on the phone and he was like, yo, we about to do it. We about to sign. He signed, Chris style pop.

24:34Tony Yayo:Wow. And like, I just remember everything. So for me. And then how many days later were you locked up? Remember, I was on the run for a good while because I never wanted to go to jail. I was like, well, I'm going to go to jail. We signing with Eminem. Missing that tour. This is crazy. You know what I mean? Dr. Dre, Shady Aftermath. Within a few months, right? Yeah, it was like, yeah, probably within a few months. What'd you say? I would say like a year. You got caught at the infamous, what's that? Spanish? Because you got to go to Italy. Coco Cabana. Coco Cabana. When I came back to New York, that's when I got caught up.

25:07Tony Yayo:If I would have stayed out of New York, like been overseas with you guys and y 'all didn't know, I would have been good forever. Well, is it safe to say that? Because he was cool with being on the run. It's when he heard Eminem is going to be in Barcelona. He was like, fuck that. He took his brother's passport and took the opportunity to fucking hang out with him. So it got you out, but it didn't get you back. Basically. Isn't that crazy? That was crazy. And somebody from the office, I'm not going to say no names. Yeah, oh my God. My first day getting out, they put the passport and the paperwork.

25:41Tony Yayo:And I'm so excited. Y 'all had the steakhouse for me. It was night. Wow. I don't want to say no the name. I don't want to say, I don't want to say the name. We just made hooky it though. I know. Don't do that. All right. Look at Paul. Okay, Paul. I'ma stand there. Okay, Paul. Paul don't like that. Paul don't like that. They put the passport in there mistakenly. Oh, it was a mistake. Okay, okay, okay. Look at my face and my brother's name. So it was kind of idiot move. All right, got you. You know what I mean? Passport was no good. So I'm so excited. I'm not looking even into paperwork. I'm just like, fuck it.

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28:56Tony Yayo:and mind you we selling hard copies oh yeah it's not no that's why i asked about the mixtape first stream because we're selling hard copies what you think about that paulie the mixtape like the hard copies versus streaming and all that right now well i'll tell you what this streaming saved the music industry because if you recall around 2015 right when streaming was was starting people weren't buying albums right everybody was getting stuff for free and there was no streaming so there was no money pouring into the business at all right wow so all of a sudden streaming comes along people start getting used to the idea that they can pay 10 bucks a month or whatever it was to get everything, the whole history of recorded music, right, at their fingertips.

29:44So it's really, you're paying for the convenience of not having to download music, put it into iTunes, make sure it's labeled correctly, make your playlist, like you don't have to do any of that. It's all right there, right? So people were, it turns out, were willing to pay 10 bucks a month for that convenience and for that service. and you know when before we had people buying cds maybe you know every other month or you know five times a year crack you got to go buy them cd again if you really like it yeah but they weren't they weren't they weren't buying one every month necessarily but now you know you have people locked in to pay that 10 i think now it's 12.99 whatever it is a month right right and people kept adopting it streaming numbers went up and up and up the audience grew and all of a sudden the industry's making money again.

30:33Right. So it saved the music industry. And, you know, at the time before streaming, the music industry revenue had decreased to 50 % of what it was. Most industries don't survive that. You can't survive a 50 % decrease in revenue, but somehow, you know, they held together and the major labels stayed together and, um, they made it through. So it really saved things in a lot of ways. And I know people complain about streaming rates. The artists get paid off of it. But the same people complaining about that weren't really selling CDs either.

31:14Facts. Oh, look at that. That's crazy. That's a hard fact right there. So of course the artists who are the biggest are going to make the most money because they are listened to the most. You know? is it entirely equitable could it be better probably but it's not terrible got you I saw an interview the other day with what's his name from Black Eyed Peas I know easy for me to say right but still wasn't that from Black Eyed Peas nah but I think

31:41Tony Yayo:you broke it down I think people gonna find that you broke it down right there I think I'm definitely like that so Will.i.am the other day he was like I think when he first met Jimmy he was like you know maybe one day you'll be one of these artists So he compared Eminem as the guy that keeps the building on. But when you found 50 Cent, was that like another jackpot hit? It was lightning striking twice in the same place. Holy shit. And that doesn't happen. But it happened. Lightning struck twice in the same place. I mean, there was a moment where, I mean, I'll say it, 50 was bigger than Marshall was.

32:20Wow. There was a moment that that happened. And, you know, we were thrilled because, you know, 50 was our artist, us and Dre. Of course, of course. But that kind of success and that level of popularity and sort of worldwide notoriety doesn't happen twice in the same place. Right. You know, how did you and Em hook up with Dre? How did that connection, like, first start? Yeah, so Marshall was out in L.A. doing something called the Rap Olympics. And it was a rap battle put together by Wendy Day from the Rap Coalition. Okay. And this was in 97, I believe. And they were putting teams together, and Wendy had her Rap Olympics team, and they were going to battle in different teams, which is why they called it the Olympics.

33:15but then there was also an individual battle and Marshall entered the individual battle. He got up all the way to the finals and he lost to a dude, um, from LA named otherwise. And he sort of was, you know, a hometown favorite. Um, and Marshall choked a little bit. This is all really well documented. Okay. So afterwards he was really depressed because the grand prize of the battle was like a Rolex and$500, which at the time. That's crazy. He was being evicted. He didn't, he didn't have, you know, two nickels to rub together. Gotcha. And that would have, you know, changed things for him. So he was, he was upset.

33:55He was at the bar. I was with him and these dudes came up and they were like, yo, do you have any music? We really liked, you know, what you were doing up there. And so he had, you know, a promo copy of the Slim Shady EP. And he gave each one of them a copy, two different guys. One of the guys, his name is Dean Geislinger. He worked in Jimmy's office. He was one of his assistants. And then another guy worked in Tom Wally's office. And his name was Evan Bogart. So I stayed in touch with those guys. I got their number. And as things started to continue to develop and Marshall's buzz grew, we put together a trip for him to come out to L.A.

34:34to meet with labels. And I may have gassed the story up a little bit, right? and i said i said yeah you know um marshall's going out we're we're about to close the deal with whoever sony i can't remember what i said um if you guys want to take a meeting um you know it's going to be your last opportunity so dean and and evan finally had the the the courage to bring marshall's music to their bosses and you know dean brought it to jimmy and um he said uh you know there's this kid i've been checking him out i've been following him i really think you should you should check it out they have a deal on the table um which we didn't but good one i know man worked out look it worked out it worked out paul it worked out so jimmy brought the cassette with him home and he um used to listen to music in his gym when he was working out and dre was over there one weekend um and he was going through you know his bag of tapes and he saw m &ms and he was like who's this and jimmy said oh i you know it's this kid one of the guys gave to me you should check it out.

35:37So Dre takes the tape home, listens to it, realizes that he was familiar with it because he heard Marshall when he was in town doing the Rap Olympics rhyming on the Wake Up Show. Didn't know who he was, didn't know he was white, but thought he was good. Heard the tape and he was like, oh shit, this is the guy I heard on the radio. So he went back to Jimmy and he said, bring him out here. I like that. Look at that. And that was it.

36:03Tony Yayo:That's crazy. Who kid? You remember going to Jimmy Alvin house? That's how I got caught. What? Because I was hiding. I told Paul earlier like. What? In Jimmy Alvin house? He said that he was running around hiding because we were all looking for him because he was stealing everybody's music and releasing it early. And he knew we were all upset with him. Who cares? That's how his mixtapes, aside from the fact that he had the exclusive 50 Cent freestyles, he would get music early and put them on these mixtapes. I mean, you know how I did it. I would wait. It was really like Ocean's Eleven. So I knew all like Right Track and all the like, you know, Chunk King.

36:39I knew all the - Chunk King,

36:40Tony Yayo:you brought it back. Hey, the engineers. Yo, so all the engineers will call me and be like, oh, Jay-Z got a block from 12 to 6. I know Jay-Z ain't going to be there all night. He'll probably leave at 4. So I'll get there like 2 a.m. and I'll park. I see Memphis Bleak, everybody coming out, Beanie. And once they come out, see ya. See ya. $500. Get that hard drive. But what they do is they record the whole session. So even when Jay-Z's talking, everything, do it over, fuck him, it records. So I just got to go through, you know, the dat. That's old school too. It don't matter. A 90 minute dat, you got to go through all that.

37:15So he walked out of the studio with a dat for$500 and you didn't know what was on it? Yeah, I would take it and go through the whole thing. There you go.

37:24Tony Yayo:DJ secrets right there. Crazy. And then, you know, there's so many dats that I heard real conversations. If I leaked those conversations, I wouldn't be alive today. You still have those? They're somewhere, yeah. I have old, old dads. That's all I got. We could definitely use some of those for the real report. We know everything costs. It's all good. We got a nice check. Shout out to the value.

37:47He's the first DJ that I ever saw. He bought a Lamborghini off of mixtapes. You remember that? He had a yellow Lamborghini. I used to put the tapes in the front. And he'd sell mixtapes as his income. and sold enough mixtapes and made enough money off the mixtape game to buy a Lambo. Look at that. That's crazy. I never cared about the Hot 97 checks. I was like, get that shit out of here.

38:14Tony Yayo:You wasn't really on there too long. $78. You had a short run on there. He always said radio don't pay him over there. He didn't care. That's why I was, because thank God he heard me one day wallowing out. I did Crackhead Mondays and then I had Bobby Brown call up, but he didn't know it was Crackhead Mondays, so Paul was dying in the car. and then he's like yo this guy gotta he gotta be a host on the channel they were about to buy so that's how I got hired but you know how I did G-Unit Radio G-Unit Radio was the best that was classic classic hip hop at that point when Clue left hot that's how I got that Monday spot yeah definitely I remember that but R.I.P.

38:53Chris Lighty the way I leaked like any record like if I did a song with 50 like the Biggie in 50 or the Tupac in 50 the Biggie in 50 was like the more like you know if i get caught they'll kill my ass so what i did is uh when flex gets off i waited my show was 10 to 11 right so at 10 55 i set it up where i pressed play but my brother had the car running downstairs and there's always like a secret elevator at hot night seven if you're gonna get beat up you take it you know like if he knows wait for you or whoever's outside waiting and they beat up the dj but i played the song there's a back secret elevator that's getting out So 1055 to 11, I play Biggie and 50, realest killers.

39:36So I'm gone. I'm not up there. He the realest nigga. Yeah. So, you know, Diddy, whatever his name, Puff, whatever his name. He's in the studio. Can you imagine your Puff daddy? You never heard a Biggie verse? Like, you didn't hear that. I always wonder where that verse existed. He's never heard that verse. That's crazy.

39:52Tony Yayo:Yeah, I remember where that record. I remember that. Yeah. I was like, where did that record even come from? That was crazy, bro. So Puff never even heard that Biggie verse. Where'd you get it? You telling me not to snitch, you want me to snitch now? So you got it the same way? From dats, from just like, so the thing is, I would steal the dats, because you know, I think - Did that record ever get cleared? Did that record get cleared? It got cleared. It got cleared, yeah. I mean, I leaked it, it was too late. Wait a second. Before you said you were paying engineers, then you just said you stole them.

40:23Which is it? So paying is when I go to the studio and then I, and then I, and I pay to get the recorded session. Stealing is I go, you, you, thank God you had shady records. So you had to really physically be there. Yeah. We had that shit locked down. It was locked down. So you weren't allowed there anyway. Shady records was like, yeah. He wasn't allowed. Oh shit. Bro, when I had to, it's like going to the Vatican. I had to take off my phones, passport, everything. Was it because he had a reputation? Of course. We called him Scooby-Doo. Because every time you said something, he'd be like, huh?

41:03It was on a Russian website. Got you.

41:07Tony Yayo:Scooby-Doo is not allowed in the building. Pun snatched. Period. From music. But Shady Records, they had a separate entity, so I couldn't go in there. But Universal, Sony, Warner Brothers, I just go up there. Who's up there? The Mexican lady vacuuming. I look, I know racism, but I look like a black A &R. So I just walk, I go to everybody's room. You got to remember this, Merck. Back then it was a tight system. So you notice like a lot of Eminem, 50 Cent Records, Dr. Dre, them things really wasn't getting leaked. Like hell no. They were the hardest to get. That was just crazy because that's when records were exclusive.

41:44Tony Yayo:I love streaming, but back then a record was exclusive. You might have one DJ that has this record first. He used to, he going to rock it for what? I learned that from DJ Clue, you know? So wait, you would walk around the offices and go in people's offices and steal dats? So because nobody locked the offices. So I look like a black A &R. I would dress like, I would wear like a button up. I look like I went to church, but I look like those corny A &Rs they had up there. And I just walk around and then the Mexican lady be vacuuming, she looks at me. Hey, papi, mommy, whatever. And I'd be like, and then I just go and I'm there all night.

42:16I'll turn the light on and then all, you know how you have the dats packed up? all I gotta do is see oh Beyonce featuring Q-Tip

42:24Tony Yayo:I'll just take that anything that has a feature because back then R &B ran the world like hip hop needed R &B to live like Jay Z and all them they had to like ride off of R &B you know until we came and changed the whole algorithm where hip hop is here to stay but back then everything was R &B so if you go to Sony I would just wait to see featuring Jay Z that's how I got the Sade and Jay Z song so I'll see Jay Z, Sade take that so So out of courtesy, out of courtesy, I would record it. Who kid was out here stealing these records? But sometimes I'll just take it. A &R's lock your offices. A &R's lock your offices.

42:59But yeah, this is it right here. You just hold it. Wait four or five months. And I just do that with Dre. Dre go takes a leak. I'm like, hurrying up, trying to get the song from Dre. And I just leak it like a year later. I saw Dre at Super Bowl. He's like, yo, this fucking guy. Him and Jay-Z was telling. I tried to, yo, this is a true story. Legalization. Shout out to Curtis. Curtis saved my life in Super Bowl. I tried to, you know, when Jay-Z was coming through, they have a, what do you call a blowhorn?

43:28Tony Yayo:You talking about Curtis Battle, Big Curtis? Yeah, Big Curtis. You know, he's the production for Super Bowl. Somebody was trying to get out to Curtis. No, so when Jay-Z comes through, somebody with a blowhorn be like, Jay-Z coming through. Like, you know, so they clear the, you know, the area, you know, where we were at. And with the, you know, all of us had our own, like, cubicle. Compound. Yeah. So when Jay walks through, they just scream it. So he just walks through. So it was too far to get to M's joint or 50's room. So Jay-Z wouldn't see me. So I try to hide behind Curtis. Because Curtis is like 20 feet tall.

44:00You know what I'm saying? So I'm hiding behind Curtis. And Anderson.Paak was like, you all right? I was like, bro, just give it like five minutes. Once he passed by, then I'll just, once I get to M and M's room, nobody's going to touch me. You know what I'm saying? I'm good. If I go to 50's room, nobody's definitely not going to touch me. Because, you know, the issues with him and Jay. So, all I hear, I turn around and I hear, yo, that's who kid over there hiding behind Curtis. And then Jay-Z's like, yo, man. I was like, what? So, Dre's coming at the same time. That's why I got it on video. And then you can see, like, oh, he robbed you too.

44:33Oh, here's Dre. Oh, he robbed you too, Dre? Yo, I was like, this nigga's getting out of here.

44:37Tony Yayo:That was on Jay-Z 50 tour? No, no, this was the Super Bowl. Super Bowl with him, Dre. Oh, the Super Bowl. Yeah, I was the only guy. And Kendrick and Marshall. Thanks to this guy. And Mary J. Blige. First of all, thank you. Because, you know, thanks to this guy. I'm the reason I was there. He was not the invite. Oh, I got you. He was our guest. Got you. Okay. So imagine during - So you invited the thief. We know better now. Okay, got you. We don't have shit laying around. All right, got you. It's okay. All right, got you. Got you. He know what time it is. Imagine during COVID and you're stuck in a bubble.

45:08Plus he's reformed.

45:09Tony Yayo:He's reformed. I'm good now. Yo, you can put Eminem's on right here. I'm like, I learned. I listened. Because he knows he'll get fired. He said, I stole enough that I came up. I'm good. I don't need to do it no more. Plus, the game's different, right? The game is different now. The exclusivity doesn't exist. Once a record's out there, it's everywhere. It's everywhere. Back then, it was on your mixtape. Yeah. You were the only, it was the only place you could get it. Because you get to talk over it. Certain things, when you're a DJ, you say little things over the record. And other DJs can take it.

45:36But by the time they put their mixtape together and they got that there, everybody's already bought Who Kids mixtape. And it was the only place to get it. And I was knowing, like, if I stole Uncle Murder's, like, some song he did, like, months ago, I won't tell Uncle Murder. What I'll do, I'll put it out. And if he has a title, I'll change the title. So I'll even trick the public. So I'll call it, like, Kill a Nigga Remix, Uncle Murder. But it'll be, like, a different name. So that's my, I had DJ Clue was, like, you know, Clue was everything, man, back then. I hated going everywhere. Oh, we got Clue.

46:07We don't need your tape. We're good. I had to find a way to fucking bypass him.

46:11Tony Yayo:Like I got some shit Clue don't got. I feel like Clue stopped the, because it was all about mixtape, like the blends. Like you had Grandmaster Big, Dog Time. And then when you came with Clue, he was just, it changed into exclusive, just playing the exclusive record on the exclusive. I mean, he leaked Biggie. He leaked One More Chance. Biggie's biggest record. One verse and a hook is all a DJ would need. Oh, Clue did that. Clue leaked that. Biggie went on Hot Night 7. I was like, who is this guy? I'm ready to kill him right now. Oh, that's right. I remember. So that made us like adrenaline rush.

46:43I want him to try to kill me. Like, cause back then, like I said, there's no social media. So imagine you're like a street legend with a rumor like that. Like Biggie's looking for you. Everybody's talking about that. We know YouTube, nothing. So that makes you like, you're in the system. That's why there's only like five top DJs you can say. Like, you can say me. You can say like Envy. You can say like, you know, drama. You can say like K Slay, RIP the Dead. Like we're part of that system. That's a fact. that's in the DNA of everybody that's hip hopped out.

47:13Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Yeah, because before that, it was Grandmaster Vic, you had Dogtime, everybody was more doing blends, you know what I'm saying? And then Clue - Rob Markman - Dirty Harry. Rob Markman - Yeah, he was the first dude - Rob Markman - Doo-wop. Rob Markman - To play this. Rob Markman - Doo-wop. Rob Markman - Yeah. Rob Markman - Yup, he was the first dude to start kind of playing exclusive, because I was a fan of Ron G. Rob Markman - Ron G, number 10. Rob Markman - Ron G, you should be on it, yeah. Rob Markman - Classic, you know, hip hop. Rob Markman - I mean, Kit Capri did the first - Yeah, Keith Capri, of course.

47:36He did the bad boy stuff back in the days. And that's why it made me get into it. But Clue lived two blocks away from me. So I had to get into it. All you Queens guys. Queens, baby. No Brooklyn today. No Brooklyn today. No Brooklyn today. Let me ask you this, though. Because now the DJs, like all the names you're talking about, you're all, as the kids say, you're all unks now. Yeah. And I love that term, by the way. It's so much better than being an old age. Old age. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, OG is cool. But it's respectful. Of course. Of course. Anyway, I digress. So all these older DJs, where are the new ones?

48:15Where's the new kids? Because, like, when we have Shade 45 and we're looking at, like, okay, we got some space. We want to hire somebody new. There's no new who kids, right? There's no new kids that are coming up doing that. It took 20, 30 years to get, you know, why? But at a point, you started popping, you know, 20 years ago. Right? When you were much younger. Where is the young guys that are popping now? Is it even feasible or is it a desirable thing for them to want to be a DJ? It's so easy to get the music. I feel like it's hard.

48:49Tony Yayo:It feels like now there's a lot of good music out there, but it feels like it's microwave music. So it's like. That's true. Like when you look at Eminem, you look at Snoop Dogg, you look at Dre. To me, it's timeless music. So if we go to Apple, you're going to see Eminem is still Spotify. He's still number one, still 50s, number one on YouTube. To me, it's timeless music. I think what Who Kid did is timeless. Like the mixtapes we did, I remember like it started from the first one to the second one. And everywhere we went to, when we go to Jamaica Avenue, the Coliseum Block, rest in peace to the Coliseum Block too.

49:26Tony Yayo:Where we go to Hot Wax, me and Banks was like stars already. everybody didn't know who kid was a star already like I was happy with just that in the beginning because it was big what he did in the streets so for me I don't think too many DJs could just replicate that time and do that again so the time is different and it's more probably more lucrative for guys with personalities and that kind of drive to do other things right like those are probably the YouTubers and the social media guys right those are the big guys like a guy like Drewski he he could probably have been an amazing DJ. Of course, because of the personality and all the things he do.

50:05Right. Kai Sinat, all those guys. That's probably where that kind of talent goes these days. Right. But these guys ain't trying to find a 50 Cent. They're not trying to find an artist. Like, I was, I had planned B, C, D, E. Like, I hung out with Snoop. I hung out with Yale. And if that shit don't work, I'm going to steal these guys' records. Yeah. I had legendary clicks. Maybe I'm lucky. Maybe I'm a unicorn. I mean, come on.

50:28Tony Yayo:You had Samuel Jackson and Chris Rock and - But that's how I upgraded because if I'm up against Clue, I was like, you know what? I'm just going to get the actors. I'm going to get like, because nobody's asking them. I started with the label execs. I had like Leo Cohen. Come on, you had LeBron James on our tape. Everybody's doing drops. That's what made it big. We had Samuel Jackson. This guy had Marford Stewart. Everybody has a legend. When it came to shape, Eminem and what he built and the empire he built was so big that people were willing to come - They gravitated. Rob Markman, They just want to be near hot shit.

50:59Tony Yayo:Rob Markman, We talking 16 million records worldwide, hard copies. That's when you had to go in the store, FYE, Best Buy, you know - Rob Markman, And really buy the music for real. Rob Markman, You pay for your promo picking it. I learned everything from being around Interscope, Shady, Aftermath, Violate - Rob Markman, You know what I saw the other day? Tony Hawk hosted the tape. I forgot about that. Rob Markman, See that's what I'm saying. Fucking Tony Hawk. They had LeBron James. I did so many tapes, I forgot. Rob Markman, Look at that. It was like, and it turned into a worldwide thing. And I always say, and 50 always says it.

51:31Tony Yayo:Because, you know, like, that was the best deal we ever saw in our lives, bro. Because the science behind getting a celebrity like that is, especially Canal Street was the hub to buy mixtapes back then. Yeah. If you're coming from Paris or you're coming from Germany or whatever, if you go to Canal Street and, you know, you see tons of tapes, Ron G, you see everybody. But if you see Who Kid hosted by Robert De Niro, you're like, what the hell is this? because I would steal the same songs Clue had. I had to have like a different edge. So if you hear Robert De Niro on there talking about fuck that shit, let's go drop that dick.

52:06Classic. So that makes it like kind of like a souvenir to keep. You know, you see how Eminem loves cassette tapes. Like that's how it was back then. There's no, nobody has anything tangible anymore. Like I need to remember this time, this moment. And when you see that tape, it just brings you back to that. Kids don't have that now. Yeah, but they want it. them they want it which is a big part of the reason for the resurgence of vinyl exactly because kids they they buy vinyl because they want to own something from the artist i i read a statistic i don't know the exact number but a large number of the vinyl bought at a place like urban outfitters that has you know a whole vinyl selection the kids don't have record players they sell more record frames than they do record players because they hang them on the walls they just want something from the artist they want something tangible because otherwise they don't have it like you know all the stuff on their phone is is fleeting they want something permanent that they can hold that connects them to the artist that's why our age demographic respects hip-hop more because the kids are getting it so fast they can't remember what was last year's hit but when we get it we waited online at Tower Records.

53:19We got the autograph from Nas. We bought the poster. I was talking to what's his name? Ice T the other day. I had his first baby model with the gun, with the shotgun. That's a classic poster. There's no more there's nothing to be like you come home from high school and you see people you look up to they don't do that no more. Run DMC is the reason why I wore Adidas. Who's doing that? Besides certain artists now, people follow their fashion sense. but it's more like I'm not gonna diss it so bad it's kinda like a dick rider thing because of social media pause pause they just ride whatever's the way back then it was it was very cultural the fashion was life like hip hop was life back then people did that to get out the hood like to survive so they respected the music more it was everything like even getting in the clubs back then the tunnel underground like definitely the tunnel was big all that you see all these classic rappers from back then like You remember the tunnel search when you got - What?

54:18Oh my God. Tunnel had the most - It was like more serious. I've never been to prison, thank God. It was like more serious than that. Take your boots off, open up your mouth. You couldn't even wear a chain in the tunnel back then.

54:30Tony Yayo:That was crazy. People were getting killed in there. No chain. They had the no chain rule after a couple of years. Wow. Remember when 50 did, How to Robbin' it? It was crazy. Bro, Peter Gation told me like, almost like a couple of times a month, they'll find like somebody that, you know, because back then they stabbed people. So the club is so big, you have to wait till the night is over. Then you see like a random dead body. Like, it's crazy back there. But you don't wear coats. That's why they stopped letting people wear like, you know, shirtlings and fucking, what do you call it? V-neck gooses?

54:58Because people were stabbing and robbing those. V-neck gooses? Remember that? The V goose? The V-neck. What? You know who Chase is? I know triple fat goose.

55:06Tony Yayo:I've never heard of V-neck gooses. V is like, it's like the color, but the V would be like white. It'd be like a V. The V-neck gooses. I know what you're talking about. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a varsity jacket. I know what you're talking about. Like a varsity sweatshirt. That wasn't like the varsity. I just had the V. That's why they call it V-neck goose. I know what you're talking about. And I remember that I saved all my money. I tricked my father acting like I had all these road trips and school trips. And then they were fake. Like, I would make fake food just to buy the coat. And then I'm getting chased by Steve Stout.

55:34This was back in the day. Steve Stout was like a bully. So he would chase us little kids all over Queens. And then he's trying to get my V-neck goose. What? Him and a... Yo, it was crazy. This guy's a bully, yo.

55:44Tony Yayo:That's crazy, bro. What did he turn into this guy? V-neck gooses. V-neck gooses. That's crazy, man. That's another episode on The Real Report. See ya. We survived. Paul, you good.

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Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda sit down with Paul Rosenberg and DJ Whoo Kid to break down the early days of Eminem’s rise, from selling cassette tapes, to making the connection with Dr. Dre, to the Rap Olympics moment that changed everything. The episode dives into the G-Unit era, including Whoo Kid’s time on the road with 50 Cent, the first interviews after 50 was shot, the story behind the “Free Yayo” shirts, and memories classic mixtape culture. Rosenberg and Whoo Kid also debate whether 50 Cent rivaled Eminem’s dominance at his peak and share a behind-the-scenes story about sneaking unreleased Jay-Z music from Jimmy Iovine’s house.

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