The Real Report - Tsu Surf on Battle Rap comeback, beating RICO Case & Wanting $250K to Battle

20:43Tony Yayo:Like, oh shit, Rico. He's just flying around New Jersey and New York more than anything. People don't even understand none of that federal shit. Like, niggas just be talking. niggas don't. There's niggas in the feds for broken guns. There's niggas in the feds for one gun. There's niggas in the feds with no drugs. Rob Markman - Read the fed guidelines, people. Rob Markman - There's niggas in the feds with no drugs, dog. Rob Markman - Yeah, you could get arrested with like, if you have like fake keys or flowers in the fed guidelines. I done read that, my little skid bidder in MDC. But you know, like, motherfuckers done sold the feds fake bricks and still get charged for that shit.

21:17Tony Yayo:So all that shit, fake guns, still get charged for that shit. Rob Markman - It's trickier than that though, like you could sell a CI one time, right? So you sell to a CI and let's say the transaction costs$350, right? But they've been watching y 'all since 2023. On paper, they can say that they only had to do that one transaction. But the feds can say, if we bought from him every day since 2023 at$350 a pop, that's 19 keys. That's what your paperwork going to say. It's not going to say 350 grams. That's crazy. It's called ghost drugs. So you'll be locked up for 19 keys. Like, I got some big homies that's never coming home.

21:57Like, he like, he keeping it real. We in the cell. He like, man, I want no plug out there. I ain't never seen 100 keys. Say 100 keys on that paperwork. Niggas be on these comments and these interviews. They don't even know how that Rico works. These niggas all don't know they flirting with the Rico, nigga. Same T-shirt, same hat, same handshake, all this. Rico. Rico, it's four y 'all. Y 'all got on the same shirt. Y 'all got on the same chain. Rico Niggas don't understand How this shit work Like That shit is copy and paste Like I'm talking to the other Reputable members in there From other places Other states Other gangs Our paperwork Look like carbon copies Just remove the gang Take out the rolling 60s Put Sereno Take out the Serenos Put the Brims Take out the Brims Put the Apes Take out the Apes Put the Mac Baller Like It's the same shit Because you can't get around The federal government That shit crazy You know what I'm saying So it's like And it's no matter what you say, once they put their eyes on you, you can say anything you want, right?

22:55So, like, let's say you sell cars, but you really sell cars, right? And Unk need a car. So Unk call you and say, hey, yo, you still got them Nissan Camrys? You're like, yeah, man, you fail me. I got$5 ,000. I'll get you a 2023 probably. He's like, all right, cool. I'm going to hit you back. I need that for my daughter, right? That's all y 'all said. when y 'all go to trial, they're going to bring somebody up there that's considered an expert and he's going to say, to my knowledge, a 2023 Toyota Camry is a brick of cocaine that costs$23 ,000. He's the seller, he's the buyer. How do y 'all beat that?

23:34Because this expert up there who got a college degree, who never did nothing under oath. Saying that's our slang. How the fuck do he know he not from? Now look, that's y 'all's story. Now my story was, I'm on Instagram with my little homie. but I'm really talking about my merch. And yo, look, I pay for the merch myself. Y 'all niggas ain't got to pay for nothing. But y 'all should be - So this is your case right now you're talking about? This is your case. It's my case. All right, go ahead. Yep, all right. I'm on Instagram. I'm on Instagram. Man, y 'all niggas should be promoting. I should see this shit everywhere.

24:01I'm paying for the shirts. Y 'all just need to be making sure y 'all little bitches got them and niggas got them. Look at my paperwork. To my knowledge, T-shirts are pounds of weed and like our shit, our paperwork will look exactly the same. and they just take, they copy and paste in that shit bro. A lot of these niggas don't even know they two seconds from a Rico. Wow, look at that. Two seconds from a Rico. You wind up doing how much time behind that shit? See, I had 60 months. I got my case, I copped out the 60 months. But I ain't have to do 60 months because, so the way it work is, under the rule, it's a 35-53, right?

24:38So they're just watching us since 2015. So, blessings be to God. That is crazy. I think this is 2015. 2015. Mm-hmm. Which one of y 'all, like, how the fuck? First of all, oh, how the fuck? What in the jam? 2015. Right? So your mind automatically go crazy because 2015, I'm just thinking about the person I was in 2015, like, compared to who I am now, you know what I mean? And what I was on in 2015, they could want me for anything. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Like, they could want a nigga for anything, but it's like... That shit crazy. Nigga said, hold up. Yeah, I know what you're saying. You know what I mean?

25:21Like, they be watching you and you just doing like, and that's the crazy part is like, they'll let you do something and not lock you up. Like, you'll catch a charge and they won't pick you up. But anyway, as far as - They just want shit to build and build and build. Right, like, that shit just took me somewhere out of his own. But anyway, as far as my time, right, it's like, so they watching us since 2015, but, With the way the feds work, once they start watching you, the case start. So every single time I was getting locked up, I was getting jail credits. But there's not something you know until you become a fed nigga.

25:53You had a point system. Not the point. That's different. That's how they decide to charge you off your guidelines. That's what it's called, right? But so now I'm catching little miscellaneous gun charges in 2015. I catch the shoot and stuff like that. But at the whole time, we're under federal indictment. So now when I come and get them 60 months, and so for you to cop out to a Rico you have to cop out the two predicate acts basically like admit to two things that you did right to for you to take but you're taking Rico though you're not taking those two things again so their two predicate acts for me was we need you to say that you did the shooting in 2017 and that this Instagram shit right here that these t-shirts really was, I'm like, cool.

26:35But now once I admit to that I did the shooting, they got to give me the time I did for it. So it worked in my favor. Because you can't charge me twice. You get what I'm saying? So now I admitted to it. So I did a year and some change off the shooting. You get what I'm saying? So now y 'all got to give me that on a 60 month. So now my 60 months go down to 45 plus federal time. You got to do about 85.6. so that 45 go down some more to, you know what I mean, 39. So you kind of look up and you start doing the math. Like niggas said that, like, yo, why he cop out so fast? You start doing the math and it's like, man, I'll be back in three and some change before I go play.

27:14My big homie got 28, my little homie got 28. My Cody's 17, 15. You know what I mean? It's like, hell yeah, these niggas get me on some little miscellaneous I could get out. And you gotta understand, the longer you want to fight these people, the case is still open. So when you saying They locked up So you had to do the shooting You know what I'm saying A nigga ratted He ratted on you What on the shooting Yeah No they gonna see what they do They gonna pull your jacket Okay Like once you Me and you We a gang But you not involved yet And one day we all in the house And you walk in They gonna be like Oh who this motherfucker They gonna get your phone number Get your jacket They gonna pull all your shit And anything that you did That's on your jacket We can make Just make it federal So you like You gonna I mean we gonna pull you In for all the shit you did before Got you Niggas don't know like Like niggas don't understand this federal stuff.

27:59Rob Markman - Mm. Rob Markman - Like -

28:02Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - It's a whole nother world, man. You was in USP Polar? Rob Markman - Canaan. Rob Markman - Okay. Where that's at? Rob Markman - Pennsylvania. Rob Markman - What was it like in there? Cause them federal jail. Rob Markman - It's nasty. It's nasty. It's nasty. I be here all day. It's like 500 minutes a month to talk. Unless you like a get money nigga, you feel me? You could buy other niggas PAC numbers and stuff like that. But you got like the average person got 500 minutes a month. How do you - That's not even three days. Rob Markman - Yes. How do you communicate with your family? How do you check on your kids?

28:29There's 120 niggas on the tier. It's only six phones. You better have a little oomph in you. Damn. Or some weight or some energy or be a stepper or something because you might not talk to, like,

28:41Tony Yayo:and not even - You said 120 inmates and six phones. And six phones. And six phones. You only could call every 15 minutes. Like, I mean, what you want to talk about? Somebody gets stabbed up too bad or it's a clash in gangs that's not, like, some - If it's like gang on gang, we'll be up in the hour. Let the Crips crash with DC. We'll be down for three months. Now you'll be in your cell for three months. 90 days. I was just telling the homie that. You'll be locked in your cell for 90 days, right? So now in the midst of being locked in your cell, you know, the jail got to keep moving as far as how they work.

29:16So four, five buses might have came in while we locked down. That's another three, four hundred niggas that got to get checked into the yard. so out of 300 niggas as a federal nigga I'll tell you 220 of them niggas is either a chomo a rat or rapist or a thief or so by the time we come off a lockdown 220 niggas gotta go and every group of men gotta do their own cleaning so it just be a whole nother when the doors open again it's a whole nother we going right back down crazy

29:48Tony Yayo:you know what I'm saying so like you never really up you never really talking to your kids It's a fucking shit show. Paddy was just talking about it. Like the dumbest shit is glorified. Rob Markman That's what kids stay out of prison, stay out of jail man. Paddy Guaranteed. Rob Markman For real, we ain't glorifying this shit. Everybody who's in there don't want to be there. Paddy Nobody. Rob Markman Right, Paddy? Rob Markman Now was your homies there for you when you was locked up though? Paddy They can't even visit in the feds because it's a fucked up list. He know that. It's different. They ain't like the state.

30:15Tony Yayo:Rob Markman If his friends got felonies, they can't visit them. Paddy He ain't even talking about the VI. He being in a sense of just morals of being there, like structured. Just being there, making sure the bread did. Nah, you got men that was for sure showing up for me. You feel me like that? But then you also got them people that's like, wow, him? That nigga ain't check on my mother. That nigga ain't. You know what I mean? And it's like, and even me, it's like, also, I'm a certain type of man, so I might have got also a certain type of support. So I don't even want to speak from my standpoint.

30:45I want to speak from the standpoint of a normal, average inmate. The average man in there Don't got support It's his own ecosystem It's his own world The average man in there Is taking care of himself Even getting on the phone And calling your people To get you to Them to send you money Is a part of taking care of yourself That's a part of you Handling your business in jail You know what I'm saying So that Getting to that phone And making that call You know what I'm saying Yeah the average They'll all tell you bro Nah the homies ain't got me It be 400 niggas at the meeting Ask all these gang members It be 300 niggas at the meeting 200 niggas If I sit 100 deep, that mean you could go get$20 from everybody and I'm straight.

31:22I ain't got to call y 'all for the rest of the year. That ain't going on in there at all. It don't be like that. It don't be like that at all. I might have spent a quarter mil. I might have spent a quarter mil my first year in jail. Taking care of my mother, taking care of my daughter, making sure shorty got a brand new car, birthday still, trips got to go. The show don't stop for real. Nah, that shit fucked up in here.

31:44Tony Yayo:And you can't complain because you got four years and like Patty said he did 38. Come on. A nigga right across the hall from you might have natural life. That's the crazy part about it. Nah, I tell you from a, see you never did time, right? I tell you from a street nigga, like from a jail nigga standpoint, excuse me, right? You can't complain because it's like time is time, right? I had to tell a nigga that like a nigga had like a 15 and I got 60 months. He like, yeah, nigga, that's a ticket. I'm like, nah, nigga, you know what? Five years. Like my five years is this for like 12 years to me, nigga.

32:16I got a 17 year old daughter. I got a bunch of my government. You know what I mean? It's people that's dependent on me. Like my mother retired because of me. I'm gone for four years. So no, it seemed like a short time to you, nigga. I can't afford five years away from the village. You get money. You get money.

32:34Tony Yayo:Facts. You get what I'm saying? So when you had niggas say something like that, like, oh, that ain't shit. Oh, no. Oh, you didn't. Oh, you was a good riddance. I'll tell you shit, some of these niggas is good riddance niggas. When they go, they mother be like, ooh, I could turn this to a guest room now. I could clean this place. This shit was stinking in here. This shit was stinking. You said I could turn this to a guest room. Shit was stinking in here. He had this motherfucker stinking. No fun. Nigga get locked up. Mom, Duke's like, damn. And for real, even the real mom was like, I know he's safe now.

33:03Know what I mean? They were so scared that you lose you on them streets. They just know you somewhere like, fuck it. It's safe. My mama told me that all the time. Like, when you in jail, I just know you all right. And that feel much better than when you go outside. You know what I'm saying? Like, so yeah, nah, time. Hell nah. Yeah, like time is time. Like, that whatever the fuck that was, that four years I did, that shit felt like 10. You getting a quarter million in battle.

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37:21Tony Yayo:I just got a little upset because I've been a fan for battle rap since the beginning of the time. Because you know when a nigga get on stage and know a song, that's different. You can even fuck up a line or two. You know what I'm saying? But when you in the battle, I mean it's just a whole different - Battle rap is the toughest performing art in the world. There you go. It's the toughest performing art in the world. You know how hard Broadway is, but they go around the country doing the same thing every night. And battle rap, you got to have new material every time. We was even talking about that.

37:51It's funny you say that with Broadway because even with Broadway, right? Not that they do it, but they can mess up and you won't even notice. They can mess up and you might not even notice. They can keep it going because they're professional with it. Even with battle rap though, it's like if you damn near mess up in battle rap, everybody will notice it and that damn near could cause you the battle. For real. The mind capacity it takes to like the logic you got to have behind battle rap and shit like that. Like you might be battling in Chicago when it's like, you know, we call it the chicken shack.

38:21New York, Jersey. I shoot the chicken shack real quick. It's Coney Island in Chicago. If you don't got the word thought to know that when you're in Chicago, you saying chicken shack, them niggas like crickets. Like it's so much mind that play into like, what's the streets out here in Houston? Like what's the gas station? Like it might not be a BP where you battling that. You talking about where you from. It just takes so much thought process to like prepare for, I'm just talking about the level that I perform at. You know what I mean? because even when y 'all like y 'all talk about the money like some of these performances warrant that you know i mean when you get a high level tay rock versus murder moot at grammar seat theater like you you talking about hiring because that's what it is we wouldn't be having this heart of a conversation if the names was drake and 50 cent because they masters of they craft fags tay rock and Myrta Mook are masters at they craft.

39:20Like these are masters at the battle rap craft. So when we talk about, because this is what we're trying to sell. So we're trying to sell battle rap. So you put these two masters on it. Like name another sport or another league or anything where the best players in the world are not max contract players. These are math. This is Jason Tatum. If you want to talk basketball, this is fucking Jason Tatum and Anthony Edwards. If you want to talk football, this is freaking Garrett Wilson. This is Mac I mean, Matt Wilson. You talking about Patrick Mahomes and these guys getting these big contracts and all that shit.

39:50You know what I'm saying? Like, these niggas, like, how do you not give Murder Mook the maximum to perform a battle rap at that? Like, you're not asking him to build you a house. You're asking Murder Mook to battle rap. Facts. A forefather. Facts. And you're asking him to go against Surf. So we need that 250.

40:11Tony Yayo:Oh, yeah, we've been waiting for you to come home. We need that 250. You and Mook battle? It's definitely, I think - Can I ask y 'all a question? It's definitely going to do something for the game. How did this happen? Where did this come from? I feel like I missed when this became the most important thing in the world. What? Parkin? Mooc versus Surf. Oh. I mean, you just came home and then the streets talk. Right. And then niggas hear them numbers, 100 ,000. He won a quarter million. And the streets just talk. So we was like, yo, are they going to battle or not? I forgot I was just talking about it.

40:44Tony Yayo:What? And then they were saying that you want 250. What? I think that should just be a dope, a dope ass battle. I think it's something that need to happen. It's like people sweep under the rug the fact that Murda Mook said that he lit, it's on YouTube. Hell no, I won't be the first nigga to stand in front of him when he get home. I would be, you would be a fucking, I didn't even know you said that. You would be a fucking fool to stand in front of, whoever stand in front of surf, the first person to stand in front of surf would be a fucking fool. That's what Murda Mook said. Do that get swept under the rug?

41:17He ready now. I didn't know that. I mean, shit. That's my murder brother too. Aw man, Mook, you said that? Aw man. What do you feel was ever your toughest battle? My toughest battle?

41:25Tony Yayo:Ever in life. All of them. Cause I'm battling myself. I'm not never battling a nigga in front of me. Like I, it be so much shit going on. Like so much homies locked up and people, my mama need me and my, I'm just trying to get to the battle, make it through the battle and went and with a good performance and finish figuring so I'm battling myself like you know what I mean like for real I'm never really battling who I'm from I'm better than them niggas you know what I mean so I'm never really bad like you might catch me on a bad day but like even the bad like I ain't got no time to cry I ain't got no time you feel me my uncle died I'm about to battle I left my uncle funeral like they took me straight they had to drive me because I had to go to my uncle funeral I'm I'm getting ready for Cortez as I'm driving from the funeral to go battle Cortez.

42:17I'm talking about get out the car and get on stage. This the timing. The minute we get to North Carolina, you're going to have to get on stage. My uncle just died. My best for my Superman. I'm locked up in Detroit preparing for my rounds because when they bail me out, I have to battle Big T. I don't really be battling these niggas. I be battling all these.

42:38Tony Yayo:We don't see what's going on behind the scenes. But you know what I want to do, though? To a funeral and jail, to a fucking battle? And it's two different times, and there's always something. You know what I mean? Like, that's just, you know, this is how I was raised. And people ostracize it, obviously, because of, you know, like, oh, you got all this going on. First of all, y 'all ain't been in the light before. You get famous before you get rich. So a nigga looking at fucking Sioux Surf like - And they thinking you already got it. It ain't even there like that. My first battles, I ain't even getting paid.

43:05My first battle was like two, three years in. This shit just started, I might have made my first six digits. Talk about that, right? How did you even start? Like, what made you even, because you going through Mad Street shit, right? Because you come from the hood. Niggas come from the hood, right? What made you even want to battle rap? I ain't never want to battle rap. I always, I say it all the time in a million interviews, my eighth grade yearbook say rapper. I always love to rap. I ain't never really want to battle rap. I just be better than things. So it's easy. Like, it's like, I like to just rap, but if you want to put my raps against your raps, I could do it because I'm better than you.

43:38See, but being a rapper and battle rapping is different. Because with that bad rap shit, y 'all got to stand there, right? It's only different when you separate it. And you're a street nigga too, right? So niggas are sitting there and niggas are saying all this extra disrespect. How do you take that shit like that? Like when niggas is, you just tune that shit out? Like all the disrespectful shit niggas are sitting there just saying in your face.

44:05Respectfully, like my name precedes itself, right? Like the average person that I'm battle rapping against, the Google don't match the raps. So I never take it personal. You only calling me a crab because we on stage. Like, you know what I mean? But this is documented though, humbly. You know what I mean? Like you could Google Sue Surf, smash them. I'm not glorifying it, but this is what the fuck is going on. It's my real life. You know what I'm saying? So it's like nine times out of 10 when I'm battling somebody, I'm battling somebody. One that's just doing a job. it's just you know what I mean like but this is like I'm like you could and I I said time and time again like you could read the discovery and listen to the battles in them hallways I was well I mean that wasn't Broadway I was raising in the sun I said that directly after I battled Rump Nitty and said we was shooting all day that that wasn't Broadway I was raising in the sun I just had came home from a shooting at 10 a.m.

45:07You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to blow the bag because y 'all niggas is talking crazy because I know who I really is for real. Why would I tweak out on somebody that really don't mean that? You just rap and you're trying to you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? I'm not the toughest nigga in the world. I don't really care how the outcome turn out. Like the real street niggas don't care. I don't care but you're not going to play with me though. Of course. You know what I'm saying? You can beat me up. That's cool. Of course. It's happening. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I don't really care about that, but it's not going to be...

45:33But I know he don't mean no disrespect. Got you.

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46:35Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - And that's 20 % off at BaskinLatherCo.com. Code REAL Report. Rob Markman - Whoa! Yeah! Rob Markman - But how did you transition? Because usually battle rappers are stuck in the boxes like, yo, they can't make records. Rob Markman - What? Rob Markman - But when I listen, you got plenty of albums out there. Like I said, you was on real board - Rob Markman - I think I never stopped. I was rapping regular before. like you ask mom dukes like mom dukes like i'm 18 moms like before battle rap like why you don't get a job i'm working on the mixtape mom shut up like there's always been like that like i mean i always been just that's i like the rap you feel me touch it like that and then even the first my first battle event it was a battle rap it was in a garage right but it was supposed to be at a venue but the niggas that put together that event they asked me to perform like they was doing a whole little thing like a whole little performances with battles right right right this all the way back in 07 08 i mean so they just want me to just rap like a regular performance song and then he called me the day of like yo uh man the whole venue got shut down fire has just down the third yo you want to battle i'm like he like yeah i'm like yeah all right i battle cool whatever he like all right i'm gonna send you to uh i'm gonna see you the address and uh i'm gonna see the address tonight i'm like all right, cool.

47:52At the time, I'm living on Osborne Terrace in North. He sent me the address. That shit on Shepard. Like, not literally, but we walked out the house and walked around the corner. You know what I mean? It was at somebody else's house in the garage. You feel me? So I battled in the garage that day. And I think I battled one more time in the garage, like two, three days later. And then like a week later, Smack called me. Or Beasley or one of them.

48:17Tony Yayo:I want to hear that quarantine joint. How was it? Because I felt the pain. And what's that? It was like you was on a jail call spitting balls to a beat on a quarantine. Nah, you might be talking on the jail call. You talking about Omazi shit. Yeah, Omazi shit. Oh yeah, Free Surf Omazi. That's all Steve you talking about. Man, that right there. That right there. Bro, to me, you my favorite rapper as coming from battle rapper. Right. I appreciate that. You know the victory shit with Leaf Ward? How you get up with Leaf Ward? Free Leaf Ward. Free Leaf Ward, man. That's my dog. Murder put me on a leaf, bro.

48:50Facts. Rob Markman - Listen, it's only... I just was talking about this off camera. It's only a couple men that make me work hard pause in the studio. You know what I mean? I'm talking about that type of like, well, you on your phone writing your shit and you got to pick up and see if he done or if he working like, what this nigga on. Rob Markman - Cause he be talking that shit. You can play that? He be talking that shit.

49:12Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Hook him up on that GBL. We can't play. Rob Markman - We can clear that if he play that on here? The label? We can clear that? We can clear that right here. Oh yeah, yeah, that's my, yeah, yeah. Be Gucci. Play that joint real quick. But, yeah, Mozzie, Mozzie gonna make you work. Man, you was really in jail court doing that? Yeah, I did that in the spot. That shit was, yo, you gotta hear it, yo. I gotta hear that shit. Yeah, Mozzie gonna make you work. Leaf War gonna make you, like, Leaf gonna make you work. Leaf War, victory, and Perks and Paranoia. Them niggas, Leaf gonna make you work.

49:40No funny shit. And it's funny, cause I really feel like, me knowing it, like, niggas be ducking certain niggas, because like some niggas is really, really like for real. Niggas be like, niggas get so crafty in that room. Like it's some real rappers out there. Benny the Butch is the, you know what I mean? It's like niggas that - Shout out to my guy Benny the Butch. I got him on a new project. I'm about to drop that. Yo, like Benny get in that room and get crafty. You feel me? It's a million niggas I'm like, because we talking. I could name - Of course, of course. I could name 15 other niggas right now that's like, but it's niggas that make you work for real.

50:10You get what I'm saying? And those, them type of niggas, those are the type of niggas I like to rap with. But a lot of niggas don't like to rap with us.

50:17Tony Yayo:Who put the Rico Part 1 up on YouTube? I watched that the other day. Make sure y 'all pre-order Rico too. I pre-ordered that motherfucker. I appreciate that. That's love. Rico September 10th. Rico September 10th. Y 'all heard that from September 10th. Shout out Herb. Herb on that bitch. Mami on that bitch. ESTG. Yes. Shout out to Homie Vorey on there. Hitmaker held me down. I'm in. Pulled right out. I'm in. Shout out to Key Kenya. Oh man. Whoa. That shit. I feel, cause you know what? I like that pain music. Me too. Like when I hear you, Al B. Al, certain niggas. Shout out to Al B. Al, big Jersey.

50:49Tony Yayo:Shout out to my guy, Al B. Al, Jersey. You just vibe. Pain music. You just feel like, yo, this New York Jersey shit is making a comeback, bro. Niggas is coming with the music. Hold up, hold up, baby. Bring that bell. Bring that from the top. He used to be my dog. He a frog. Could be cold. You ever want to chill? But they are doing a genius breakdown. Let's listen to this, man.

51:27kanji i'm here

51:35man temputorre change them interrogation niggas froze hearing the wrong nigga telling shit hurts your soul the fakes get exposed he used to be my dog he a frog because he told you ever wanted to chill but they up so ain't no chilling out ever had that thrill on the drill know what that feel about ever trust a nigga but you didn't had to fill him out ever had a family hate you because you bailed the kill out we don't want just anybody now i want the coldest i tell all the killers killer killer that's a bonus if If you hit a bishop or a rook, you get a rollie. But I pay double-double for a king like Sabonis.

52:09I just buy shit, wait for a drought, and then I tax niggas. And my back, bigger. Find you a humble little bitch, and then you stack with her. Cool, perfect. I let cat lick her. Shit. Still free to savages. So I gave him status. Hit that nigga cabbage. Of course it's Crip, but that G-Wagon? Bitch a brabbis. Try and paint a nigga evil They forget you till they realize they need you Level 7 pin lockdown Bumpin' seagull Taught me love hurts like the Packers vs the Eagles Like I don't really write shit Cause it's real life shit Three co-signers, two houses, still a flight risk Judge a black woman, my prosecutor A white bitch Cuzz gave me kajin products and an ice pick Kajin products and an ice pick He both took the time He copped out the 20 His daddy took a dime I feel sorry for his daughter I feel bad for his mom.

53:02They did that court shit together before Bronny and LeBron.

53:05Tony Yayo:That's what the game is missing. It's not enough living room. They did that court shit together before Bronny. 30s had switches to him. Homies ain't your homie. Ain't circles a snitching to her. We in the death. They throwing numbers shit. I'm praying for a 10 or less. You tell we got a kill. You tough love. I love my men to death. It seem like every time she say she bout the nut, you have a minute left. I hate those. for state clothes. I get the mail stamps from the bank. Ask the ops. We chase down like the bank clothes. Don't appreciate that to that gate clothes. Tired of this street shit. Had to watch my daughter graduate from a free plant.

53:45Can you picture that? 60 months for them hammers. Ain't no telling what they talking if a switch attached. I ain't let it paint out. He was on lockdown. They find out his mother had died till he came out. He was looking to some bunk for some days and the days just dazed out. And I know that's pain Ouch For them I don't respect it They gave the driver More than the shooter Because of his record He only lost an eye In that scuffle That shit a blessing They waited till he got In the shower They caught him naked North baby mother of freak She got him stressing How you know that gun Even work if you never test it Shit we was guilty of stepping If it take an alpha To kappa alpha

54:26Tony Yayo:Now when you spitting that I know niggas Niggas I know niggas was loving you and that motherfucker. Like, hold on, spit some shit. I know you want, I'm not rhyming for everybody, but come on, bro. I ain't rap in four years. I wrote my whole bit. You ask me, but I ain't rap for four years. I ain't one of them niggas. I'm not, like, again, humbly. I hate that I got to say it and not humbly, because Steve get on my ass about that. You don't say humble because that's belittling yourself. You say modestly. Fuck these niggas, man. Humble, you have to lower yourself to be humble. But if you being modest, you know what I mean?

54:58it's different so modestly it's like when I get into them and it's fucked up but once you go behind that wall like I'm no longer entertaining I gotta be in certain time I'm not your entertainment I'm trying to survive me fuck I look like in here rapping for you niggas niggas get stabbed hit with locks and all that shit's mad shit going on I'm a like

55:17Tony Yayo:no I know you're not just rapping at all I'm just saying me being in the yard and hearing that shit that shit would have made my day Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh yeah, no, download it on the kiosk. It came out, listen, they called me on Thursday and said, we need you on Mozzie tape. I wrote it that weekend. They put it on the tape. The tape came out Tuesday. Everybody had it Wednesday. You want to hear me go download type of... I'm not a yard nigga type suit surfing on the kiosk. No, I know that. Type suit surfing on the kiosk. I know you. Oh no, I'm not saying it to you. I'm explaining it.

55:53Tony Yayo:But just them bars right there when I've been listening to - That's pain, for sure. That shit have me in the whip like, oh my God. Nah, I appreciate that. Nah, but I was just saying why, you feel me? It's like that life, like that level seven penitentiary shit is like, it ain't no time for like, you don't even want to open a door. Like, you could think in jail, you think about like, if you, this is fucking Tony Ayo and Uncle Murdy. I say spit something up. I got you. In the yard, a nigga actually - I'm picturing you by the phone and you spitting that and the nigga next to you gotta be like, yo, this nigga.

56:24Oh yeah, nah, nah. I just wait till everybody went to Chowdy. Everybody went to Chowdy, unit cleared out. And then I just - Oh, you was in your own zone. Yeah, I just kicked my feet up and then -

56:32Tony Yayo:I know the whole dorm stopped like - Nah, they ain't hear that. You know what that nigga said? He said, man, got you. I waited till Chicken Thursday. I see what Ye was trying to say. He was trying to say, damn nigga. I'm picturing it - Oh, like a nigga hear me tweaking while I'm saying that. I'm like, in your house and I'm hearing you tweaking like that. Right, right. Cause I'm hearing it on the phone, so my mama, I'm like - Got you. Who the fuck was saying? Okay, I see what you're saying. I'm not gonna get it. I'm waiting till them niggas, them loud. Free my dogs. And it was pain music. It wasn't no bullshit.

56:58Tony Yayo:That's not microwave music. That's music I could listen to 10, 20 years down the line. Man, free Canaan, man. Them loud ass, silly ass niggas. I wait till Chicken Thursday. And then everybody, nobody miss Chicken Thursday. Wait till they Chicken Thursday. Y 'all tell Dave-o, shout out Dave-o and Mozzie. Look, I'm gonna call you at 12. That's when niggas go on the chow. And barring the deuces, the alarm don't go off. from McCoy at 12. Everybody go to child, it's empty in here. The only person that hit me is the CEO. You know what I mean? Like that, so I waited purposely to, you know what I mean, till everybody left so I could have, so he could get some clear tapes.

57:32I appreciate that.

57:32Tony Yayo:What you said, his son got a dime, his pops got a 20? Shit like that, you went crazy on that one. I appreciate that. But now when you hit victory with - They were doing that core shit before Brownie and Brownie. I know some fathers, like I know some niggas, like it's niggas on the yard, like he and B2, his son and C1, like nigga tell him like, yeah now my pop like i got the that's crazy right surf like what he like yo i got the pops my i got the sale my pops had you know i mean shit like like for real bro like you know i mean it really be like that for real so that's just my like that should be my truth like it'd be hard for me to that's kind of why i got into a lot of this shit that i got into growing up though you feel me because i never was one of them niggas like you could go back to my raps i never rapped about the car with the doors going up because i ain't never sat in one of them shits but that's me though Like my music is therapeutic That's my life So I ain't really talking about Too much shit that I ain't Do Do Or I'm going to do Or I'm about to do Or somebody close to me did You know what I mean Shit like that So I'm really from The projects for real Like from Like the box So I ain't never seen None of that other shit Facts So I ain't You know what I mean Don't worry it's Patti It's Patti y 'all He good He good And you're not a sourdash He's strict I love you Patti It's all good Patti We ain't tripping for you I'm glad you guys on ring Patti It's all good Patti Now in the building, we got damned in almost 50 years of time.

58:49Tony Yayo:Patty did 38. Your man did 20. That's 28. Flags home. Word. Flags did 20. And you did four, right? Word. In my mind, do you look at prison as a business? It is a business. Like it's just a business? It is a business. When you start going in there and seeing how, when you, like, I mean, it's two businesses, though. Are we talking about, like, we could talk about the white folks first, if we, you know what We talk about that business where, you know, a jack mat costs$2.30 and everybody ain't got to eat commissary. And you take all their clothes and take everything and then make them buy clothes and buy, you know what I mean, buy phone minutes and buy.

59:24It is a business. Yeah, AT &T, MCI. Yeah, I'm getting X amount of dollars for every inmate in here. This is for sure a business. It is.

59:30Tony Yayo:Every bed is accounted for. Every meal. Exactly. Yeah. This is a big business. Big business. You know what I mean? And then you got actually the idea of, like I said, jail is its own world. Jail is its own business too. You got niggas in there. washing clothes for coffee. And I mean, it's like, it's nothing wrong with that. You know what I mean? Like you got niggas in there, like that'd be, yo, you need your room clean? Like you got niggas in there that have businesses. That's why I said, there's no excuse. I know the candy man. You feel me for real? Like I know brother Bilal, like from Canaan.

59:57He got, you go in his room, he got, you go to his locker. He got all types of different flavors. Yeah, this the passion fruit. He mixing the, the Keefy drink mix with the creamer and the making the candy. He got a whole business running and he making four, $500 a month. Facts. I know because I'm spending$100 with him in there. Guaranteed. I'm sending him cash out. I call baby girl. Hey yo, cash out him $100. I'm getting my when I want. I got... There's niggas in there that's scraping the paint off they desk and putting the fire up under they seat and making a grill. Niggas selling wraps. And he making$400,$500,$600, $700 a month.

1:00:33Tony Yayo:How the fuck motherfuckers... I always wonder how motherfuckers get so creative in prison, bro. You ain't got no choice. It's crazy. If I lock you in the bathroom, you'll be surprised what you'll figure out. You'll be surprised what you'll figure out. Like how do you figure out that if you take a piece of Brillo and scratch off a Duracell and put one side to the other side in the middle of the Brillo going light? Who the fuck thinks of that? Rob Markman Yeah, that's crazy. Rob Markman You lock a man in a room and you'll be surprised what they'll figure out. There's some geniuses in there. Rob Markman Bro I told you, I'll never forget this.

1:01:07Tony Yayo:I was in Rikers Island. I'm in 2-Up Up. And you know, niggas did time before. It was my first time on the island and it's Lil Guns and Gambino. These niggas, young niggas, and they like, yo, later on tonight, yeah, I got something for you. And I'm like, all right, cool. So it was K Slade time, lock in, rest in peace K Slade. I love some peace. And I never forgot this. And once K Slade came on, nigga was like, yo, yeah, yo, shit is coming now. So that's when I was introduced to fishing. So the nigga fished me a joint lit already. Rob Markman 1-866 - Right, already lit. Rob Markman, So I'm chilling in my room, have no jail experience.

1:01:42Tony Yayo:A joint just come flying into my door. Rob Markman, What? And he 15 sails down. Rob Markman, Oh shit. He 15, he's all the way down the tier. I'm like, oh shit, how the fuck he do that? He fished a joint murder. Bitch, I just fished. You way down the block, bro. You took them blocks away. And you just fucking, I got you, bro. I'll have to just chill. And you fish. And the joint comes right under your fucking tail, bro. you gotta see a spider web what's a spider web? we down for 90 days 80 days it gets to the point where you got store men in there right? so you might have a dude who family take real good care of him so he go on 4 or 5 different accounts so he just buy mad commissary so he got hella shit in his room so now he the store man he 2 for 1 in everybody that's his business yo let me get a honey bun till commissary alright I need 2 back or you can cash app him he make a bag for you $40 bag, whatever.

1:02:37So his room would be up 132. Right. You know what I mean? Way up there. Way up there. We down 202. So he might, his line can't come all the way down to me to 128. So he might shoot from 322 to 305. And then 305 shoot, he got a line too. All the way across the unit now to this side. And you'll look up and it'll be a spider web up there, like all the units because everybody needs something, right? So we yelling through the door like, yo, let me get three coffees. You feel me? So he, all right, I got you. This cell need two bags of chips. This cell need, you'll look up and Just mad fishes.

1:03:15Tony Yayo:Just mad fishing lines. Niggas just pulling. Everybody work. No funny shit. And as funny as it sounds, as crazy as it sounds, like, nah, like, it take me to even talk about it. Like, nah, like, men is in a fucked up situation. There's niggas in there that still smiling and still making that shit work. Motherfucker make eggs with a light. Motherfucker make coffee taking some, putting back for the next 10 years. Rob Markman, As crazy as that sound, no funny shit like there's niggas in there. That shit actually, when y 'all make me think about it, there's niggas in there that's aight. And I don't mean good, like want to be in there, but there's niggas in there as fucked up as that shit is, there's some niggas in there smiling for real.

1:03:49And that make me feel good. Rob Markman, Once that shit touched down right there, doing that shit to touch down, niggas like, oh shit. Rob Markman, He got some coffee. No for all, he wanted a bag of coffee. Like, Manj said that one of his raps. And he just like, nigga be going through the most. Nigga you can't talk to your baby man, you can't talk to your daughter. nigga just want some coffee. Nigga just want a shot of coffee. My son, he just want a shot of ball feet. Rob Markman - See, I don't understand. I just knew the fishy. That nigga said spiderweb. You see mad lines coming through. That shit ain't making you see mad.

1:04:18For real, man. Free the men, for real. Free the whole can. Rob Markman - What would you tell the kids, man,

1:04:24Tony Yayo:not to come to prison? What's the best thing you would tell them? Oh, it's simple. It's not worth it. The end don't justify the means. and that's normally, as humans, that's probably why we do everything. Normally you do something because of what you want to get out of it. The end don't justify the means. If you could name me five big homies that made it out, that got a mansion, kids, happy with their family, with a house picket fence, I'd go back. Name them. Go ahead. Pistol Pete under the ground. Facts. They got Pistol Pete and Joe Pistol Pete got to read his mail off a TV screen. But one guy that said, my guy Frank Matthews, they don't know what he might but he might have been the greatest to do it.

1:04:59You ever heard of Frank Matthews? Nah, probably not.

1:05:00Tony Yayo:I think Spring Matthews got away. He just happened to Brooklyn. He's from Brooklyn. He originally from North Carolina, but he had got snatched up, but then he had got out on bail and disappeared with 20 million. Oh, so I would like to call him a 1%, a 0.00001%. You better believe it. The status, it don't come with nothing. All the big homies got forever or they in jail, period. Both the niggas that raised me is gone. My big bro got 28. Like, I got to talk to him through a computer for the rest of my life. I'll probably never see him again. I have to survive 28 years to see one of my best friends again.

1:05:38Because they ain't going to let me in the jail to see him. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I have to survive 28 years just to see my dog. You know what I'm saying? Like, the end don't justify the means. No, it don't. This street shit ain't worth it. It don't add up. Like, none of it. Like, get back. I got it. Like, I'm telling you. I've been there. Like, I know what get back feel like. And it still don't feel good. Like, bro still dead. But niggas ain't gonna tell you that because the rap sound better though. Of course. You better believe it. You get what I'm saying? Like it sound better.

1:06:02Yeah, we got to get back. Yeah. It's not one one. It's zero zero. But I can't say that because that don't sound cool in a rap. It ain't one one. You got mine. I got yours. My nigga still dead. Facts. I'm still feeling that pain. It's still zero for me. I ain't up to school. And you know, you got to go through it and you know, you spend some shit and you do what you got to do. Respect. Whatever. It don't change nothing. Yeah. It don't change nothing. And like the goal is for them to not get up on you. Once he got, he got. I ain't saying don't spin. But having a dead homie and 30 years, just the math is nasty.

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1:11:06See, but now let's start getting to a deeper conversation. Like, at what point can I have ripped up the paper? that you signed? That you signed? At what point can a nigga, we real street niggas talking like I'm a reputable, from here to LA, I'm a reputable. At what point, and I'm not even talking about me, I'm standing on my shit all over my body, I'm probably gonna die like this, respect. I'm talking about the average, a little nigga 18 to say I wanna join. At what point he can't, let's say he changed his mind at 21, I'm not talking about no hot rat shit. I'm talking about, you know what, I tried it, I don't like, because if you go have some fucking sushi, you start like...

1:11:43You go sign up for the fucking, to go into a fucking water park. And when you ready to go, you get the fuck out of there. So you mean to tell me if a little nigga join the gang at 18 and at 21, he say, I'm done. But me speaking of experience, hold up, hold up.

1:11:56Tony Yayo:So you don't mind Hocus 45 with like, to drop the flag. That's good. I like that. I like what he's doing. But what I'm trying to say is from, for me speaking of experience, right? And from what you said, right? When you see somebody that did something to a homie of yours, right? What? and you ready. You don't plan it. Like you said, we don't plan this shit sometimes, but we know what we involved in, right? And like you said, you just, you chilling. You happen to see, yo, son. They go sendin' that did such and such to son. Just, allegedly, whatever happened, happens, right? You know what I mean?

1:12:31But that mentality, don't, how we tell the youngins, like, I... You know the only time a lion don't act like a lion? Like put like this, do you regret? You niggas don't regret anything. You don't regret nothing. You don't regret nothing. You don't regret nothing, right? That's not what I'm asking. I'm talking about the, because you said we signed up for something. Of course. Right? And I'm just speaking like, so somebody can't, I'm talking about somebody else. They can't, like, you can't rip the paper up? Of course you can. All right, that's all I wanted to ask. Of course you can. Facts, my nigga.

1:13:01Of course, of course. Because essentially the question is derived from the, what would you say to the kids? You know what I'm saying? So it's like, even if you do get jumped in, like, let's stop making some fake falsifications. Like, me getting jumped into this shit don't mean I can't say, you know what? I want to go to fucking electricity. I want to be electricity. The best school is in Texas. I'm out. I want to go to, I want to be an engineer. The best school is at fucking Johnson and Wales in Virginia. I'm going. Go. Don't let them niggas trick you when I talk about you got jumped in this shit for life.

1:13:32You got to do this shit for life, nigga. Fuck you niggas. Got you. If you want to do something else, like don't say fuck me and you still live in a project building. And a matter of fact, you could say that too. Knowing what I know now, you saying, if I'm on some goofy shit and you say fuck me, cool. Right. That's it. That's just, as men right now. I got you. As a man, if you decide you don't want to do this shit no more, that's cool. Because then when you look up and you jammed up because of these jam ass niggas. And now everybody want to scream about y 'all is making niggas like, you could turn somebody into a killer.

1:14:02That don't mean snitching not, snitching could be always in his heart. But we turned him into, we keep making him slide. But he been a bitch. Because that's the niggas don't, niggas don't understand. Like, even that bitch is his frequencies with that. I know the softest nigga from some, from my projects that a dog walk, the toughest nigga from another projects. You know what I mean? Like, it's levels to that gangsta shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, so now you put a nigga, like, if six of us do drugs and one of us don't, he got a better chance of starting to do drugs than we do stopping. Because it's more of us.

1:14:34Facts. Y 'all keep making this bitch ass nigga get in the car. Mm-hmm. Knowing he don't really want to be in this motherfucking car. So now you look up and the nigga do got nine bodies in three attempts. And y 'all think he the realest nigga in the world because he shot a gun. As soon as he get caught, you wondering why all of y 'all went down. I don't think the nigga that shot for me won't tell on me. I think the nigga that called my mother while I was locked up and I wasn't there to check. The nigga that called my mother and asked her was she straight and was my daughter good? I know for a fact he won't tell on me.

1:15:06just cause you shot for me you the nigga with the gun you better shoot you better shoot that's why I always got in trouble cause I was the one with the gun that's the job that's the job that don't mean you knock on tail like just because the nigga shoot that's not we talking about character if you got the gun I'm not promoting that that's street law if we all out everybody ain't got a gun that's just not how it works it's probably one or two blicks it's four or five seven of us one or two blicks If you got the gun, it's because you, so you better shoot when it get ugly. Facts. That don't mean that that nigga ain't, ain't no soft nigga.

1:15:41Y 'all keep trying to turn niggas into niggas that they not. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Character like, niggas ignore red flags. The smallest red flags. These niggas don't be who they say they is.

1:15:53Tony Yayo:When you see, like for instance, you see like Dirk Case, right? Niggas that, you know, he took care of, gave him money. Spooky. You know what I'm saying? And you feel like the streets is over? Like, could it just be feeling like niggas go out their way. You could show your loyalty to somebody. I think the streets never - And then somebody's back is on the stand telling on you. I think the streets never started. And we had a false pretense of that shit and loved it. Loved something that's really not there. Like, niggas act like it was a time. It was a time of day when niggas wasn't telling. No, it just wasn't Instagram.

1:16:25Facts. Like, it wasn't a time. I'm not refuting what you're saying. No, no, no.

1:16:28Tony Yayo:I agree with you. But even now, right? Patty, Steve, everybody. People at this time, right? Look at the technology now. We got red light cameras. Rob Markman, Ring cameras. Rob Markman, Face... Rob Markman, Ring cameras. Rob Markman, Yes. Rob Markman, We got flock cameras. We got police got drones now. They got license plate readers. They got facial recognition. Yo, we went from overseas. I took my fingerprints. They said, yeah, yeah, we got your fingerprints in every country. You're the only one. Because they got that shit now. Rob Markman, Oh, from that... Rob Markman, Facial recognition, all that shit now.

1:17:01Tony Yayo:It just seemed like no matter what you do, a Rico's going to come because you're on camera. You got your cell phone with you. Back in the days, we had fucking flip phones and beepers. Nothing wasn't tracking you. It's like between the technology and niggas telling because of the technology, it just seemed like the game is like - Rob Markman - Oh, you broke that down for me. Oh, that make all the sense in the world. Rob Markman - That's a fact. I even looked at it a little different when you say it like that. It's like shit. Rob Markman - It's almost like if you squeezing the juice out or something.

1:17:30It's no more like it's no more juice in the orange you throw the orange away. Like if you from that perspective that you just broke it down meaning there's nothing left of the product I'm with you a thousand percent. Like you would be a fool right now. If you were standing on the corner right now and you sell to 20 people nine times out of 10 six of them people was confidential and former. Like the cop the fed that locked me up right. So we sitting in front of the county jail at the time and the door still locked like the gate because they got to pull up to the gate press the buzzer say who they are let them in because the fed's going to take you to your nearest county.

1:18:01Right. So they take me to Essence County. So we sitting there waiting for the cops to come out and get me, but it's hot in the car. So the fed dude take me out. He take me out the car and we just sitting there. We leaning and we talking. And the first thing I said to him, I'm like, hey, are you like Grand Theft Auto? Like that. He like, yeah, why? I'm like, because our indictment was sealed, meaning I still don't know what I'm locked up for. I'm like, so if this was Grand Theft Auto, right, how many stars I got? Like, so I'm joking with the way, I'm like, yo, how many stars I got? Like I got - 5, motherfucker.

1:18:33Yeah, I'm like, I got three or - I'm like, yo, I got three stars, I got five. He start laughing hard as hell, you feel me? Like I'm caught now, you feel me? I'm trying to figure out - He like, you probably got like three and a half, like that. I'm like, oh, all right, that's not bad. I know if it was a - Yeah, I know if it was a man down or a hat or some shit, he probably would've said five, you feel me? Like, he said three and a half. I'm like, okay, cool, cool, right. You know what I mean? There's some light at the end of the tunnel here. I'm trying to play with them and make a joke, because we was talking the whole car around it.

1:19:00I'm asking them like, yo man, with 60 cars out there, man, like it's that deep for little old me? I'm just trying to fish and shit, and they seem like young dudes or whatever. So fast forward all that. That was funny, I'm trying to break it. All that out there for little old me? Word. I'm talking to them in the car, and I'm trying to break it down. So as we waiting for the dudes, you know what I mean? And I feel like that's what got this statement out of him for me, like me, how cool I was the whole time. He like, he's saying he grab his vest. You know how them cops do? He like, man, I don't know why y 'all do it like that.

1:19:30I'm like, what? He like, this street shit. I laugh. I'm like, what you mean? He like, shit, we got about 400 confidential informants in here. And we have about at least another 350, 400 confidential informants in Essex County right now working actively on payroll. And that shit just gave me the chills.

1:19:51Tony Yayo:Some motherfucker could make two, 300 a year being a confidential informant. Don't say that number again, please. No, I'm just saying. You guys are Googling that. They hear that like this. Nah, because I heard. I just heard that. I know what you mean. He ain't lying. It is. He ain't lying. But Fast Fuck That got shot five times. Prison. Now we got the music. I just heard the record with Cocky Cod. That's a shout to Cocky Cod. Shame on me. Shout to Cocky Cod. Shout to Brooklyn, man. So Brooklyn in the month. I love Brooklyn. Brooklyn, you know the vibes, man. So how'd you go about that with Cocky Cod?

1:20:20Tony Yayo:Because like you're doing shit with all the right artists. Right. Shout out to Cocky Cobb, shout out to my dog Fresh. Lee Floyd, Cocky Cobb, Benny the Butcher, DeVorey record is dope. Right, shout out to Fresh. I just came home, like I wasn't, first of all Steve was on my ass about like, pause about like, Pause, yeah, you on pointy radio, okay. Right, about the coming home and doing the rapper shit. And like I'll say it, the nigga shit. You feel me, like I'm talking to Steve, I'm like yeah nah, the jet from Michigan did it. Steve like fuck, get the fuck outta here. We not doing none of the, you know what I mean?

1:20:52So I kind of changed my mindset and I said, you know what? The first three, four months that I get home, I'm not doing nothing. I'm not showing my face. I'm not. These niggas got like, I just was going for my daughter for four years. Like, you feel me? My mom, my support system. Like, the first thing you do is go to Starlet's? Got to get some real lifetime. Right, right, right. You said the first thing you do is go to Starlet's? You ain't eat with your daughter. You ain't either. I got to have a conversation with, you know what I mean? Like, my mom's, see where I had that, her feelings. I was taken abruptly from her It's a different conversation on the federal floor Visit floor than it is I'm free now, what's up?

1:21:27Like how do we gotta go Like I hurt your feelings, how can I fix that? What can we do? I gotta have conversations with multiple people I gotta have business conversations with multiple people I gotta get a bag It just wasn't in me Don't meet me outside with five chains, three Rolls Royces I don't wanna walk outside to the fake shit Cause none of that shit really even matter in life You know what I mean? If you can't be out there with a bag of peace You know what I mean A brick of love You know what I'm saying Like that type of shit So in the midst of that To go back to your question In the midst of me sitting down for 3-4 months And getting myself together and my mental too Because mental health That's a whole other conversation as far as men But getting my mental together I'm also taking I'm being an artist I'm studying Who hot who dope who in right now What podcast is it right now?

1:22:19Shout out to y 'all. Shout out to a lot of podcasts that I want to do. I was beasting to ask Steve. I was beasting to get down with y 'all. Come on, we need you on it. You know what I mean? I need to get with y 'all. Y 'all the big homies, you feel me? So I'm doing my homework and I come across Cocky Con. I'm like, man, this kid is phenomenal. He's special. Definitely. You know what I mean? He from my backyard. He snooze. Yeah, definitely. So I'm like, dog, special. You feel me? I shot him some records and then we had formerly met at Summer Jam. You know what I mean? I performed at Summer Jam.

1:22:49He performed at Summer Jam. We bumped into each other. You know what I mean? We got to the studio. Man, I get in there and I'm thinking we about to, you know, throw some beats on and figure something out. And, you know, him in there, Fresher in there. Shout out to Fresher. That's my dog. Shout out to Fresher. Another Brooklyn, East New York native right there. I ain't going to lie. And not because you're a Brooklyn nigga, right? But just because I know I... Yo, y 'all spit out some quality niggas. Of course, man. I mean, I've been around a lot of places around a lot of people. Brooklyn spit out some, it's some shady shit going on in Brooklyn.

1:23:17Oh man. That's Brooklyn. Yeah. That's why it's Brooklyn. Yeah, but it's inside Brooklyn though. Yeah, it's inside Brooklyn. It's all good. When you, when you, what's the word I'm looking for? I want to say abstract. When you abstract the man, when you abstract the nigga from Brooklyn though, and we just talking about the nigga, Brooklyn makes some good niggas though. Nah, definitely man. Definitely man. But girl from the niggas. Definitely man. So I'm thinking we about to just throw the beats on and shit like that. And he like, nah, I got this shit for you. And I hear that shit. I'm like, oh shit.

1:23:45Oh yeah, I got this. This easy. You know what I mean? Pain music, man.

1:23:49Tony Yayo:That shit. I love that one. When it's your life, it's easy. You know what I mean? Some niggas be like, how do you get writer's block and all this shit? I got too much going on to get writer's block. All this shit be my life. You know what I mean? So that shit, once I heard that shit - But don't feel sometimes you've been rapping for so long, like, all right, damn, right? How do I talk about my life again? and keep reinventing myself a little bit. Like how do I switch it up and still? Because the streets still want to hear certain shit from you. Even though you might not be in the streets like you used to be.

1:24:21But you still going, when you're giving these, talk on these projects, you're still going to talk your street shit. So you don't think sometimes it'd be a little hard, like damn, how do I remix my life now to still get the streets what they looking for? I think it's pretty easy. I think I could, as a up and coming artist that's from a trench level, I could look at the careers of Jadakiss and look at the careers of Uncle Murda and say these niggas have been theyself from the trenches and are black men doing very well or okay. I don't need to be the best, biggest, wildest artist in the world. I need to make it.

1:24:52That's a fact. I need to be. I could look at Uncle Murda and say he's doing well. I could look at Jadakiss and say he's doing well. Oh, it's light at the end of the tunnel for me. As long as your core fans fuck with you and they rocking with you, I'm good. Jadakiss said that you can survive with a thousand fans. That's a fact. You're gonna survive for the rest of your life. I don't need a hundred million people to know me. It's a lot of pressure.

1:25:12Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - I feel like skills pay the bills, because a lot... People don't accept battle rappers as fucking good rappers all the time. They try to keep y 'all in a box. Like, all right, cool. He can battle, but his record is fucking bullshit. Know what I'm saying? But when I see you, I see the transition. Like, when I hear the record with Kaki Kai, right? When I hear you with Lee Ford, I'm like, how do you get to the Lee Ford shit? because I hear Victory Lap and I hear Perks and Paranoia. And that was a dope - I'm a super fan. I'm like, I'ma be a thousand like - Free Leaf Ward again. Super, super free Leaf.

1:25:49Like, modestly, I'm a rapper's rapper. Like that's my thing. If I call you to rap, you nice. Period. Leaf Ward is every, is nice. And I just reached out, you feel me? And you know, like nine times out of 10, well, since I've seen in my life. Nine times out of ten, when I reach out to a dope rapper, they know who I am already. Facts. You know what I mean? Facts, of course, man. Of course, man. Of course. So he like -

1:26:12Tony Yayo:You one of them niggas that don't think you a star. You being a - They curse me out all the time about that shit. So surf right there. Everybody knows shit. They curse me out. All of the homies, my homies and shit all the time, they're like, yo, why you be acting like you ain't? You know what I mean? Because it's, I say the same story, it's going to sound repetitive, but it's like, if 20 dogs is in the backyard

1:26:34he got a gold collar with diamonds on. The dog. I can't see these chains. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I can't see none of this shit that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can't see what it look like. Oh, it's surf walking in with fuck bitches. Because all I know is who I am. Right, I'm just being myself. Yo, look, grab the driver, grab the bitches, grab this. So another nigga looking like, dang, he just walked in with, I'm just walking, you know what I mean? So you kind of get caught up, but I got to stop doing that because that's how you slip back into them old habits and shit like that.

1:27:01Because everybody ain't happy for you. Fuck no. Everybody ain't happy for you man Hell no Like we don't live in a world Like Life too hard to be like I'm not saying you can't be happy for nobody But you should Like you should be so focused on yourself It ain't even that People don't need to be happy for you You're just so focused on my own shit Facts I ain't got time to be happy for you Not facts So you right Like a thousand percent Like either they ain't happy for you Come around looking all good Looking like you just living your best life Niggas Guaranteed

1:27:27Tony Yayo:I mean you know what it is You just know he a real nigga Just cause skills pay the bills And you can just know When a real nigga saying some real shit Like even when I look at Rico part one, make sure y 'all watch that on YouTube. Rob Markman 1, Jr.: Right. Rob Markman 1, Jr.: Like you got a young kid walking through the hood going through all this shit, he chilling, meet up with the homies, they talking and these niggas get blitzed by the police. Rob Markman 1, Jr.: Right. Rob Markman 1, Jr.: Then he go, get on the bus, some other shit happened. Rob Markman 1, Jr.: Right. Rob Markman 1, Jr.: And at the end of the day, at the end of the video, I love that video too.

1:27:52Tony Yayo:Rob Markman 1, Jr.: Right. Rob Markman 1, Jr.: The thought of it and everything like that, it has substance to it. It's just not microwave music. Rob Markman 1, Jr.: Right. He goes and hugs his mom. Rob Markman - That's his grandma, right? Rob Markman - His grandma. He hugs his grandma, right? And she looking at the niggas in the car like, yeah, nigga ain't getting no trouble with them niggas. It's like real life shit, bro. Rob Markman - So I got it for like, so my mindset was just like, I'm just trying to be different. Like, cause it's not one song. If you pay attention, it's like five songs from my tape on there.

1:28:20It's five. Rob Markman - Right. Rob Markman - I was just thinking from a promotional standpoint, right?

1:28:23Tony Yayo:Rob Markman - Yeah, music was switching up. Rob Markman - Right. And then even like, so the headphone, my thought process with the headphones, right, is like I just look at my younger self, right? Shout out to my little bro too. He one of the best boxers in North. I really? Shout out to my little bro. Yeah, that video was crazy. So music was always my third, my life. You know what I'm saying? And either I could have kept my headphones on from an analogy standpoint. I could have kept my headphones on or I could have stayed on the porch. Or I could have been the nigga running in the store, shit like that.

1:28:54So my thought process with it was The headphones make him bulletproof So if you notice every time he put the headphones on Like why would the cops run directly

1:29:02Tony Yayo:You thought of that whole concept Yeah that's mine So it's like he's sitting there with the homies And he go to walk off and the headphones come on And like the cops Like once he disappear So the cops just run past him So he go in the store to grab his snacks and stuff Dude's coming in there to rob him He put his headphones on and he disappear You know what I mean But like from a subcon He don't know that but the music and but your headphones like as a black kid growing up like your headphones could be anything it could be a basketball it could be a pencil it could be a and just keep your headphones on and that'll keep you away from what's going on just keep and that's where that really came from like just keep you know i mean what if you boxing stay in the gym like if you play basketball play basketball you know i mean and i genuinely feel like if you do what the fuck you're supposed to do like a lot of that stuff will veer around you of course so some people will see it like that and understand like, oh shit, the headphones make them invisible.

1:29:54And then some people will look at it like, oh, he just a lucky motherfucker and he minding his business. So either which ways you want to see it. Look at it, as long as you get the point.

1:30:01Tony Yayo:I mean, fuck my head up. Because when I seen the truck pull up while he's on the porch talking to the homies and shit, I thought niggas was getting hit and it was police chasing niggas. It was police, right. So it was like, what do you call it? Double sound drop, whatever they call it. I thought niggas was going to shoot niggas. And then it was the police that ran out. Then you went to the next scene, felt like some ill streets is watching type shit. I appreciate that. Work, bro. Nah, fuck with you, bro. You one of them, bro. I appreciate that. That means a lot coming from you. Like I said, battle rappers can rap.

1:30:33Tony Yayo:Don't get me wrong. But people love to keep them in that fucking box. You know what I'm saying? You one of them niggas, like I said, Cocky Cobb record's crazy. Leaf War records are crazy, dude. Record with Vory is crazy. Even the video of Wyclef. Did he bring out one of them Red Cross? Yeah. What was that? Five Lanes? Shout out Clef, man You know, he got Al Capone I think he bought Clef is I think he bought Al Capone car Years ago When I was in 50 Yeah, that Jasper That Jasper and Nook, man Yeah, 7 mil in the city So how do you get Wyclef fucking legend Grammy award winner All kinds of guys That guy How do you get him To come to your video shoot, bro?

1:31:11Well, that was his That was his work So he reached out He reached out to me To put me on his record But Big Bro always He's super Jersey You know what I mean? He always hold it down. He from New Jersey. Shout out to Clef. He always hold it down. You feel me? I'm locked up. I'm in the pen at the time. I mean, I'm in the county still. I don't know what's going on. We watching the VMAs. You know what I mean? Why Clef hosting? You know what I mean? He like right before Shakira come on. He like, yeah. And coming up next, Free the Wave, New Jersey, Shakira. You feel me like that? And it just make a nigga feel good.

1:31:40Like, damn, I ain't forgot. You feel me? Something like that. So he forever in my favor. Anything that nigga call me for, like I pray to God he only called me for good stuff because if he didn't I'm still there. You know what I mean? For real. And he always show me love. He always pick up the phone. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So I came home and he like yo I need this record. I got Herb on it already. I need you. I'm about to remix the remix. I need you on it. I said alright let's work. So you know and then we shot the video in the hood. Yo if you could choose your next three opponents.

1:32:12I know you already said Murder Mook. Who would it be? the other two that you want to battle right now for that bag who would it be that I want to yeah to get this shit even though we know Mook said he ain't trying to step in front of you right now he don't want to be the first one respectfully like he might do it he might do it he might want to see how you moving when you're on the come home it's probably not a fun or spicy answer but it's like from a want to standpoint it's really only Mook like in a sense like anybody else like I would literally just be doing it because they got the number that I want like it ain't no you know what I mean like it ain't nobody name that I could say like I ain't gonna lie he really dog walking shit I got it like years ago like I come home and it'll always be somebody just tweaking I'm like I need to see like Geechee Gotti at one point like oh I mean like I came home from yeah I ain't come home I had just after I got shot I was down for a minute and like Geechee popped I went Geechee you know I mean after I came home from the 17 shit it was Nitty was hot at the time oh give me Nitty this time when I came home it just it wasn't nobody you know I mean outside of the mook thing so it's like any one of them could get it for the right price.

1:33:17You know what I'm saying? But Mook is the only one that's like, oh, this gotta happen. You know what I mean? At some point it's gonna happen, I'm sure. Got you. We need somebody to make that happen. Pay that money, man. Pay that money, smack. Before them other people do. Cause once them other people do, I'm done. I'm like, and I don't mean like other people, like another league, like my goal is to be comfortable. You know what I mean? Like I'm not chasing nothing. Like I ain't got no, I don't got a car. like I don't drive I had a driver for the last 7-8 years the same dude I don't got the dreams that niggas be having so it's like I don't need much once I hit that right number I'm going into chill mode, fuck y 'all mode why would I be battle rapping and I'm up 5 mil, now 250 don't make sense at all so it's definitely I want to battle and I would like to battle before that situation because if you look up and one of these people say hey listen look we about to change your life We like what you doing.

1:34:15It's over. We need that.

1:34:17Tony Yayo:Yo, listen, it'll be good for the game. We need you to battle somebody. We've been waiting for you to come home. On Rico. And that's crazy. He said y 'all other battle rappers ain't even in competition. Y 'all niggas ain't even in the compensation. Oh, nice and nice. Oh, nah. Battle rappers got some of the best rappers in the world from a technical standpoint. We talking about words and penmanship. We talking about levels. That's what I'm just saying. Levels. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, yeah. But there's a lot more work that gotta be done. I got you. But away from the battle rap. Look, sir, Rico, right?

1:34:43Tony Yayo:Right, real inside, cool. Rico, so Rico, who are we gonna look forward to being on Rico, man? Shout out to producers first, you feel me? Shout out to, first and foremost, shout out to my dog, Shark. Shout out to Viola, you know what I mean? Shout out to, like I said, Hitmaker. Shout out to Kai going crazy. You gotta go producers first, but from a creative standpoint, Herbo on it, as soon as I got home, Herb got right with me. As soon as I got home - Shout out to G Herbo. Herbo in my bag right now too. I ain't gonna hold you. Generational run. Yeah, he in his bag right now, boy. Niggas can't fuck with my son.

1:35:15Tony Yayo:Nah, Herbo, he's one of them. Niggas don't know about his verse he got on Bloodhound Jeff. Bloodhound Lil Jeff, rest in peace. That R verse, that's one of his. He got, I ain't gonna lie, I had a record. It's called Nana Crib. It's me, him, and Mozzie. I know Herb go, but it's me and Mozzie. It's me and Mozzie, though. I fuck with Mozzie. I had Mozzie on it first already and me. So I'm like, I guess it ain't gonna be like, I'm good. You feel me? I put, man, Herb jumped on that shit, dog. Walked on it. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I always tell that, I'm like, yo, Herb got the best verse. And I ain't gonna lie, Herb got crazy on it.

1:35:52Like, it's hard to keep up with surfing Mozzie, man. Herb got on that bitch talking crazy. Yeah, to me, Herb got the best verse on that shit. He could rap. Herb go crazy. Herb, Herb went that motherfucker, Mozzie. Of course, I don't really go nowhere without bro. Anybody that a call to the jail and tell you they need you on a album and you went 128 lower. Got to pay homage. That's a fact. Salute. That Mazzy. Salute Mazzy on that, man. Real nigga shit.

1:36:16Tony Yayo:Didn't Fetty bring you out? What? Presidential Center? Fetty brought me out to Prudential Center. How was that, man? How'd you feel? I was crazy. Shout out to Fetty while Big Zoo. Shout out to Fetty, man. First one. He drop kicked the door for Jersey. You feel me? That's a fact. So it's always love with him. He showed me the utmost love. You feel me? Shout out to him. Free him. He just came home. How was Summer Jam for you? To be home at the Prudential Center. You and Albie out came out, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Albie came out too. Shout out to Albie out again. That's my dog too. Motherfucking.

1:36:46That shit felt crazy for real. I ain't going to like... It's like Shakur Stevenson walking out, fighting at Prudential. It's like... Right, right, right. You know what I mean? Shakur from Jersey too, right? He's from Newark. Yeah, Jersey pop him right now. Shakur Stevenson is from Newark. I didn't even know that. Jalen Brunson from Jersey. Jersey poppin' right now, man. I just found out, Jersey poppin' right now. Little handle her doggo from Notre Dame. Look at that, yeah, Jersey poppin' right there. Scissor, Toilet Thomas. I know T. Thomas. Ice-T from Jersey. I mean, what we doin'? Kyrie Irvin.

1:37:20Tony Yayo:He from Jersey. I don't even know. There's a lot of people from Jersey. Shout out to Jersey. Let's go, Jersey. Jersey poppin' right there. Shoo surf. Shit extra lit. And again, the captain home is up. We out. September 10th, niggas goin' down. September 10th, Rico is coming out. This man is the king of battle rap. And now he's taking the king of fucking regular fucking rap. And he's fucking, and he want half a million to battle. And he's fucking been shot, went to jail. That shit is dead. But he home now, man. I quit. Make some noise for Sue Sir. Let's make that murder mook battle happen. I quit.

1:37:56Let's make that battle happen. Let's get that bag up, man. Let's go.

1:37:59Tony Yayo:Like, share, and subscribe. It's The Real Report. We out. Jersey. September 10th.

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