In short
Too $hort discusses longevity in hip-hop (“don’t stop rapping”), the “Old YN” debate (old vs young rappers), West Coast vs ATL stories, and the legacy/creation of his hit “Blow The Whistle,” plus new music with Lil Jon.
Guests
Too $hort (Oakland/Bay Area rapper; 6 platinum albums; worked with Tupac, Biggie, Jay-Z; co-founder of Mount Westmore; entrepreneur/film producer/sports team owner; Oakland street/day in the city; active multi-decade career). Lil Jon appears for the new track segment (“Wouldn’t Want to Be Him”). Hosts are Joe Crack the Dawn and Jalen (Joe and Jalen show).
Key claims
Hip-hop culture shouldn’t “age out”; respect comes with the bag; major labels “play” artists by feeding them to old-school radio; “Blow The Whistle” had legs via later remixes (Jay-Z) and slow regional growth; ATL move happened at the birth of its mainstream explosion.
Notable examples
Kamala Harris behind-the-scenes “bitch” story; “Blow The Whistle” sports/penalty concept using the whistle; performing “Lean Back” at Summer Jam after Lil Jon brought him out; ATL early-90s scenes including Freaknik 93, Magic City, Bobby Brown, Tupac, Outkast/Goodie Mob rise.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLegacy of 'Blow The Whistle'
4:28 to 6:28
Too Short discusses his hit song 'Blow The Whistle' and its significance.
“bitch make some noise bitch we can say it now you made Kamala Harris say bitch behind the scenes.”
The Creative Process Behind Hits
6:28 to 10:10
Too Short shares insights into the creation of his songs and the music industry.
“Somebody got to come up and pry the mic out your hand.”
The Importance of Longevity in Music
10:10 to 12:20
A discussion on staying active in the music scene and the importance of longevity.
“And then after it's done and we in the studio, we like, you know, sometimes the hair starts tingling a little bit.”
The Hip-Hop Lifestyle and Ageism
14:00 to 25:06
Explore the active lifestyle of hip-hop artists and the challenges of aging in the industry.
“or you're pulling up to a big event, 1 ,800 fits every setting.”
The Hip-Hop Lifestyle and Ageism
25:09 to 26:50
Explore the active lifestyle of hip-hop artists and the challenges of aging in the industry.
“Some sports fans, they call this the slow period in the whole football season, but not on Hard Rock.”
Performing on Birthdays
29:15 to 30:09
Discussion about performing on special occasions and the pressures of fame.
“I remember one birthday performing somewhere like the Philippines, not even a regular, not China, not Japan.”
The Nature of Happiness in Hip-Hop
30:09 to 31:13
Exploring the complexity of happiness in the hip-hop community.
“So the other day, I don't know if you know, it was a moment.”
The Evolution of Pimp Culture
31:13 to 33:58
A look into the history and current state of pimp culture in society.
“We closed the show, most legendary show in New York history.”
Human Trafficking and Risk
33:58 to 34:37
A serious discussion on the risks associated with human trafficking today.
“That shit like a Rico, that's worse than a Rico.”
The Influence of Success
34:37 to 36:21
Discussing how success affects relationships and societal expectations.
“There's a pimp, a hoe, and a trick in every situation.”
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Fat Joe's Legacy and Reputation
36:21 to 37:54
Fat Joe shares stories from his past and insights into his reputation.
“I'm doing my promo shit out here, fucking with Giant Records, whatever.”
Memories from The Tunnel
37:54 to 40:01
Recollections of legendary moments from The Tunnel nightclub in NYC.
“So all this Fat Joe you seeing now that I tell stories, I'm joking, I'm this.”
Trust and Loyalty in Hip-Hop
40:01 to 42:00
Exploring themes of trust and loyalty among rap artists and their circles.
“The next day, I'm in the tunnel on a Sunday.”
Reflecting on the Past: ATL and Weed Culture
42:00 to 44:30
Learn about the hosts' experiences in Atlanta and their connections to weed culture.
“I used to buy weed from the Dominicans on the 184th.”
New Music and Lil Jon's Influence
44:30 to 48:20
Discover the hosts' discussion about new music and Lil Jon's role in their careers.
“Like, that shit got to blow the speakers off, Fred.”
Total Wireless Sponsored Segment
48:20 to 50:13
Learn about Total Wireless and its features for staying connected.
“But, you know, Lil Jon, you know, when New York fronted on me, I-97 fronted on me and Lean Back first came out.”
Total Wireless Sponsored Segment
50:52 to 51:05
Learn about Total Wireless and its features for staying connected.
“5G access requires a 5G-capable device in a 5G service area.”
Early Days in Atlanta and Influential Artists
51:05 to 56:00
Hear Too $hort's experiences in early Atlanta and the artists he encountered.
“And now, another appliance triumph from our friends at Grand Appliance.”
Too $hort's Atlanta Adventures
56:00 to 58:30
Too $hort shares wild stories from his time in Atlanta's nightlife.
“You know, he'd be out of his house, out in Alpharetta somewhere or something.”
Tupac's Dual Nature
58:30 to 59:05
Too $hort reflects on the contrasting sides of Tupac's personality.
“or some, you know how they do the screenings of a movie and everybody in there, like a celebrity or something, his phone rang.”
Music Production Insights
59:05 to 1:00:59
A discussion on music production techniques and the history of sound in hip hop.
“He had a fun side, though, like that I've seen many times.”
Engineers and Their Challenges
1:01:00 to 1:06:34
Too $hort discusses the relationship between artists and audio engineers.
“You almost blew the fucking speakers off.”
Transcript
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1:53We even have more great guests coming up, including the great John Turturro. It's called happiness. Delivering happiness. And many, many more. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro. And listen now. Like you was like mad young when you started. I'm in the 6-0 club, recently in the 6-0 club, man. God bless you. Very recently. Come on, man. The fuck they talking about? We can't get money. Ain't no aging out. And by the way, man, I made blow the whistle when I was 40 years old. There's some noise for that. motherfuckers young whippersnappers
2:41yeah yeah what up y 'all it's your boy Joe Crack the Dawn leg fixer yeah yeah so it is your boy Jalen Joe and Jalen show, every show legendary, every show iconic. And that's an understatement. That's an understatement with today's guests. When you think of today's guests, you got to think about Real West Coast Foundation. You know what I mean? You got to think about independence before independence was a wave. Trump music. Real hustle. Setting the blueprint. They talking about a man with six platinum albums, classics like The Ghetto, Gettin' It, Shake That Monkey, and one of the biggest records in hip hop history, Blow The Whistle.
3:40The only artist to drop albums across five different decades. The only artist to work with Tupac, Biggie, and Jay-Z. Co-founder of Mount Westmore. Entrepreneur. Film producer. Sports team owner. Got his own street in Oakland. His own day in the city. Yeah, run it down. Still outside. still active still dropping Bay Area legend Oakland's finest ladies and gentlemen don't even clap yet two short is in the building bitch make some noise bitch
4:35we can say it now you made Kamala Harris say bitch behind the scenes. We interviewed her. He asked her. Because, you know, she's from the Bay Area. And he said, what's your favorite word? She said, bitch. While she was running for president, that shit is legendary. I got it. Well, I was there for that. Like me and him interviewed her for BET. Behind the scenes, I was like, yo, you're asking that shit? Yo, what's your favorite word? She said, bitch, going for president, my nigga. Like, this is too short. What kind of impact is that? I said this to Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, that they should be the music.
5:19When you Google their names, the music symbol should come up. When you Google your name, longevity should come up. Puzzle. What you did in the game is probably never be done again. No, I won't. ever. It can't be done. It's like four people I would love to have the career. Short LL Ice T and Buster and Snoop. If I could have a gumbo of all y 'all careers I'd be like fucking mountain. They got the most years with getting the most money for the most amount. You on there too. I'm gonna let them talk. Fuck me. You gonna let somebody talk? Go ahead. Is this still happening a lot? Three words, man. Don't stop rapping.
6:09Fine. Don't stop. Don't stop rapping. When I came up in the game, when they gave you the mic, that was like a prize. And like, in my mind, I'm like, I'm never giving it back. Like, I'm not spitting 16 bars. I'm spitting like 60 bars, 100 bars. I'm just going to keep going until somebody, you remember that shit? Somebody got to come up and pry the mic out your hand. Everybody's sitting around there trying to take a turn. Like, you're not getting it from me. So that's how I live my career, man. It's just, I'm never going to stop. When I got some street money, just selling tapes. Didn't have to go get no job at McDonald's or none of that shit.
6:44I'm like, keep selling these tapes. When I got some independent money doing it myself, I'm like, shit, this shit's kind of nice. I'm going to keep doing this. It was just the rap music, man. When I got signed to a major label and they fucking check came six months later, I was like, all I got to do is rap to get this? Just don't stop rapping. So that was my theory, man. Just keep fucking spitting games. You know what happens in life is everybody got this, not everybody, but a lot of people got this keeping up with the Joneses. Yep. Right? Or keeping up with whatever they call a status quo. I believe in hip hop.
7:20Sure, I want you to sell 100 million records, but I believe in hip hop as an art form where the guy that's rapping in the fucking lounge right now somewhere or doing karaoke or doing, they doing what they love to do. So I respected India Iree as much as I respected fucking the biggest Beyonce because India Iree has something to say with the art, right? I always took that perspective because I grew up with the underground and I do the same, you know, when I was 30, I was like, why are these niggas rapping at 40? then I got 40 and said yo, they still paying me to do this shit so I believe in we gotta keep putting out music, keep putting out art and don't stop, I agree with what you said you know, one of my favorite records in the world, I know I'm skipping a whole lot, but one of my favorite records ever is, but you you wanna get Fat Joe to dance like embarrassing with Remi be like, yo, sit the fuck down.
8:29Remy don't want me to dance. She think I'm Fat Joe the Gangster. I ain't supposed to dance. That blow the whistle, come on. I don't give a fuck. I could be in the moon with Marcy's. Blow the whistle. I'm banning fans. I'm banning. When that blow the whistle, you definitely know. When y 'all did that shit in the studio, did you know before you put a verse on there? First of all, that's a little giant beat. so Little John Little John's a DJ first and then a producer then an artist and he knows he just knows he knows how to grab that thing that makes the people but what I'm asking is when you heard the instrumental you knew this is a smash hit or was it after you made it down so first he plays a beat and I hear the little whistle and my first intention was you know of course it's got a party vibe it's got that good energy but I was like let me play on the whistle and just talk about, I got into like the sports references about throwing the flag and blowing the whistle and shit.
9:33And just like, like the whole concept is like, you trying to do too much. You trying to be like us. That's just too much for you. So we're going to just call it, call a penalty, throw the flag. You, you know, you out of pocket. I never knew what this record, man. I just love this shit. It's like a warning. I'm sitting there telling you a song. I'm talking about drugs and all this shit. That's why I named, I dropped, I name drop Snoop Dogg, T.I., M.J.G. 8 Ball, U.G.K. I'm like, these are all my fellow rappers who rap about that pimp player shit. And I'm like, don't try to be like us. Like, if you can, but if you do, we might have to throw the flag on you.
10:08And I was just playing on the words. And then after it's done and we in the studio, we like, you know, sometimes the hair starts tingling a little bit. You're like, I think this one it was, man. And I think one of the best things about that song was I was on Drive Records when I dropped that. and Barry Wise and the whole staff, they promoted that record for like a week, maybe two weeks at the most, and then they backed off. And I feel like if they would have believed in it, it would have went big and it would have went away. But the fact that it had to like creep its way, creep along on its own, you know, the record was all said and done.
10:44And one day, Jay-Z got mad at some motherfuckers about LeBron and did a remix. That shit just went on the East Coast and it would just pick up in different cities after it was old. And I mean, songs don't do that on their own. That shit got legs. No, songs don't do that on their own. Yeah. So it got some ingredients in it, man. You brought up a name, Barry Weiss, man. Shout out to Barry Weiss because I seen him keep it real with his artists in other ways. I was really impressed because, you know, I really don't trust these kind of people, but I seen him hold his artists down, like behind the scenes.
11:21and I was like, oh, this guy's a real one. For what? I never did business with Bally White. So I'm just saying, I seen them hold niggas down. When you did, you know, in the darkest hour, I seen them come through like a shining night. He started off, he started off small, man. He knows, he know how to, you know, he know the other side of it. But he's a record guy. Don't get it twisted. He's a record. He's a record exec. But yeah, man, I think that was a blessing on the fact that they didn't just blow it out the water from the start. It helped the song. You know, I don't want to say your age because I don't know your age, but I'm pretty old myself.
11:57But I remember watching you before me. And that's hard to do. I remember coming over to school watching. Me too. And you sitting on the car, you all listening. I'm like, yo, this nigga too short. Me open started talking that shit. Like you was mad young when you started. I'm in the 6-0 club. Recently in the 6-0 club, man. God bless you. Very recently. Come on, man. The fuck they talking about? We can't get money. Ain't no aging out, nigga. And by the way, man, I made blow the whistle when I was 40 years old. There's some noise for that. Motherfucker. 40. Young whippersnappers. Nah. Hit one out the park at 40.
12:40Yeah, exactly. Sean Peck got down in Florida looking at the 55 and older place to live. He said, yo, man, these niggas is playing. golf. They got a softball league for 70 and over. I said, yo, Becca, get the fuck off my phone with that bullshit you talking over there in the 55 and older village. Yo, these people got golf carts and shit. Pharmacies, yo, the shit these... Man, listen, we gonna play this shit all the way out. You already know when it's a real moment, you need a real bottle. That's why we rock with 1800 Tequila. You heard me? These people been making tequila for 11 generations. That's right, 11.
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14:45We supposed to stay active, bro. Stay active. That's that whole hip-hop culture to me. Like, I watch record labels play niggas out before they were played out. Yeah. Guys were 25, and they were playing them at the old school at noon and shit. Like, they're like... So the major labels controlled the whole industry at the time. And what they would do is like, all right, I'm up with him. I did two, three albums with him. Say Jagged Edge. Say 112. whatever like that. And they'd be like, all right, we dropping them. So let's feed them to the old school. No, I never understood these shit. These dudes was 20 something.
15:25I think hip hop, but guys like a Jay-Z, guys like Dr. Dre, guys that just said the masterpiece and the babies, and they just say, yo, ain't nobody aging us out. We just going to keep going and getting to the bad. I think that's a hip-hop thing. Us, you being 60, I can't tell you 60 by the way you dress. You icy, you fly. That's some hip-hop shit. That's the O-Y-N subject, the old young niggas. They're actually trying to clown that genre now. You old niggas need to sit down trying to be fly and shit. Fuck that, man. Fuck all of that. I tell a young nigga every day, you wish you could be an old young nigga one day.
16:12You wish you could be a a 50-year-old rapper and getting money. You wish, man. Don't clown that shit. But, not getting old. Not getting old. Let me tell you something. I said something recently. I think it was D. I was in Harlem talking about shit on the block. And I said that and I maintain it. This is something that I really, really understood when I was 30. Unfortunately, nigger. They don't respect an old nigga without the bag. You got a bunch of broke niggas in the comments like, yo, if it was about that to me, like, yo, bro, let me explain something to you. Everybody had the same 24 hours.
16:56Everybody had the same life. Fortunately, God shined a light on us. But what I'm saying is I realize that young niggas don't respect a nigga if he don't dress good, if he ain't got a bag, he ain't getting to it. So I I always knew, yo, the only way these young niggas is ever going to really listen to us or follow us is if they like you get. I'll give you somebody. No, there's another way you can make them listen to. I don't know. What?
17:32Listen, so, you know, when I see young artists, Lotto or this one or that one, these young artists, they come up to me, they be like, yo, gee, you get to the back. They are not confused with the bag chaser. You know what I'm saying? And I've always felt like, you know, because you got an old broke nigga talking about what he used to have or how he used to this. I just personally never wanted to be that guy. Even when they took all my money, I knew, yo, put your head down. I always said when they took all my money, I said, listen, right now I'm in the ocean and I'm swimming for the first sight of land.
18:11and I'm going to just keep swimming. I ain't going to stop until I touch some land. You dribbling or swimming? Huh? You dribbling or swimming? No, you swimming. I don't even know how to swim like that. Get out with your shit, bro. The point I'm making is I'm not going to be that. I made a conscious effort my whole life to never be the guy that had a run and he used to have. And yo, remember when Fat Joe used to drive the bends? Remember when I'm the desk in my DNA. I call that the rocking chair. That's the rocking chair. You're on the porch. All you got is stories left. We ain't doing that. But I think the young homies, man, they do respect when you got the bag.
18:52I know that all my life as a youngster, people would give me really good advice and that shit would be received differently. Like if you got a, if you're my high school counselor and you drive a Pinto every day and you're trying to tell me, stay on the right path, do this stuff. Like, nigga, you got a Pinto, nigga. Or a fat nigga, a fat doctor telling you to lose weight. Even though they tell the truth. You ever go to the doctor, it's a fat nigga, and he telling you, yo, you really got to lose weight. You're cholesterol. You're my man. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. But now we got to let these youngsters know, though, man.
19:27I'm telling you, I'm telling you, stay on your grind. Keep busy. If you fall off, find a way to fall back on. But at the same time, this shit gets better, man. It gets better. If you can survive the game, it gets better. Like, like young and having money is so fun. But OG having money is way more fun than when a nigga was young because you learn, you learn more. You learn how to do it better. You learn how to travel better. You learn how to eat better. The problem with OG getting money is your family waiting at the Raptors. Yeah. They want that brand so legendary. I cry every day that she go ding dong and the FedEx come with boxes that stand up.
20:08You know that shit is like a fur or something. I'm looking at that shit. I don't even want them to open that shit up in my face. I'm like, dang, we done did some other shit. We done went on another shopping street. This, that. That's the difference. You know what I'm saying? But you're right. You know, being an OG, you got to have your AARP machine by your ear to shit. Keep the bones, keep your fluidity going. Yeah, man. You know what I mean? Show them by example, man. when you see a big OG pull up in a big whip, like, man, I want to be like that motherfucker right there. Like, show him in it.
20:42I don't like the ageism in hip-hop. I don't like it. Fuck that shit. I don't like it. No. And you know, they don't have it in any other music. Like, I'm going to, you know, Keyswear got Fat Joe a lot. One of my favorite artists. Whenever he called, he got him. Like, he don't even date me. I think he tell him. I come like with a silent package, Jill. We doing New York. Don't worry. Fat Joe's doing the greatest of hits. He don't even ask me. He called me up. I said, yo, Keith, he said, you coming, right, nigga? You going to perform? I said, Keith, who love you more than me? He goes, nobody. I said, you motherfucking been catching me with that shit for the last 30 years.
21:28But Keith Sweat get money. I'm telling you. Every other genre, the R &B, the ladies, the diss, they get big fucking bats. Can people come up to me and be like, yo, Joe, promoters, I know, be like, yo, Joe, I want to book Key Sweat for a cruise. I know that's your man. And I hear the number for a nigga who came out in the early 80s, nigga, I be like, damn, this nigga, and then you look at they schedule, they book five days a week. They caked up. And so hip hop, one thing, You know, we got to learn different ways of getting to the bag. But in hip hop, I learned that promoters play with hip hop artists more than they do in any other genre.
22:13And, you know, that was the shit that got me like when I went through the taxes. Niggas who knew they couldn't touch Fat Joe for less than 50 ,000. Like, yo, I mean, literally had promoter tell me how many people want to hear Lean Back? Man, they tired of hearing that shit. We got 12 ,000 for you. so here I'm here I'm doing four shows that I would've got on the low end of a normal show where they know you fucked up they play with you and me I don't make excuses my family ain't stopped getting Birkins they ain't stopped eating lobster my moms ain't moved out of the house so I got to go and do the four shows to come back with the 50 like yo we good let's go eat some shit you know I'm back in fucking Timbuktu China, wherever.
23:00I got a no stone. Yo, I done did a no stone unturned on this earth. I done perform in places. You care. But guess what? As rappers, we've never had jobs. I never had a day job. I had a job maybe when I was 15. It's been hip-hop food ever since. And yeah, we had them moments. We had them moments, man. I went through a phase where I was like, it's the Monday night price, Tuesday price, the Friday price, Saturday. And you can get a nigga good on a Tuesday, Wednesday. Rick Ross believe in that. I never seen a guy who does a$250 ,000 show in Dubai and the next day he's performing in a barn in Chattanooga.
23:50He don't give a fuck. He'll take the$250 ,000 the next day. He'll take the$10 ,000. Rick Ross got a different philosophy than me, and it looks like it's working out better his way because this nigga got yachts, planes, houses on the water. I can't do it. You know, like I said, promoters play with rappers more than any, and I just felt like, yo, I'm at a certain price range where you can't get me for the low. But Rick Ross don't give a fuck. He'll go on a Tuesday to Memphis, go pick up 15 grand, And I think his way is smarter. I think at the end of the month, he just goes like, you know how the dealer does?
24:31And take all the money when the city's over? He'd be like, all right, I'm taking everything. I made my quota for the month. And I made this. I understood that. I just can't do that. Like, you know, I don't know. I just, my ego was something. It's never left. We had a hustler back up against the wall. You'd do it. Oh, I did it. You did it. You did it. but it ain't, it ain't, I was going to China for$12 ,000. We ain't in them waters right now, though. Texas is big right now. Let me tell you something. It's good right now. Short. Water's nice right now. Short.
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28:10GrandAppliance.com. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y 'all? It's your girl, Sam Jay. And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week.
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28:47Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalenka. Shout outs to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to everyone watches women's sports. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
29:15I remember one birthday performing somewhere like the Philippines, not even a regular, not China, not Japan. That shit was like Philippine, Korea, Singapore, some shit, and it was my birthday. And I remember performing on my birthday like, yo, my house mighty have fallen. And you got to just be like, yo, and you out there for the 12 ,000, you took that 20-something mile flight. And you just like, yo, I got to do, but I never, I never came to my family on my knees. I never came and said, you can't get that Chanel. You can't live on the water. You can't. I just said, yo, Joe, we got to go out there and get that bitch.
30:03you know and so everybody you know careers are like the stock market sometimes it's great sometimes you know this guy shows no emotion and he's had a pretty traumatic career financially with whatever he dealt with and he's never happy and so the other day oh no the guy's never happy okay that's your man alright you can throw one too What are you talking about? Let me tell you something. Yes, sir. I'm never happy. It's crazy. Let me tell you. I'm always happy. Can I say something? You have built-in happiness. You got a poker face. That motherfucker never happened. Right? So the other day, I don't know if you know, it was a moment.
30:53The other day, we get off the stage with Jay-Z, which I had to convince this guy to not go to Summer League. to do the fucking biggest concert ever created in the history of mankind. The man we performed, and Beyonce just went on, Beyonce just walked by. We closed the show, most legendary show in New York history. I had to actually grab his shoulder. I don't know if he thinks I was blow big. He thinks I was drunk. I was dead sober. I grabbed his shoulder. Dead sober. I said, okay, well, that moment was dead. I ain't not telling you about the moment Wait for play? Let me hear you. I grabbed him in his shoulder.
31:33I said, yo, Kiss, are you happy? No, I had to ask the nigga. No. No, because I'm confused, right? I have to grab him on his shoulder. He don't tell me I'm capping. Throw the flag. I said, you thought I didn't even remember that. That was a good one. I said, yo, Kiss, are you happy? I was tight. No. He should have asked if it was tight. And I was like, I should have asked you. I'm sorry. You're a special guy, man. Let me tell you something. And he says, you want me to say what you say? Yeah. He said, yo, I'm more happier than I ever been in my life. But it's scary. I'm so happy. So I'm just like, I got to be careful, whatever.
32:17That's how you responded. And I was like, wow, he's happy. Because to me, I don't give a fuck. I'm skipping to my loo. They coming up to me everywhere. I go shopping in the store. I let yo Joe and Jay to fucking right, nigga. Fucking right. Number one, right? Number one. Yo, nah. I'm skipping to my loo. You know, I don't understand. My partner is calm. I would play that shit in Anshalad, too. I would do the biggest shit in the world and act like nothing just happened. I do it like that. Is that like a style? Is that part of the swag or something? I think it's kind of hip-hop, man. You can't really show your true emotions.
32:58It's definitely pimping. You gotta wear the mask, man. You're game face all the time. You know, we had hoes and pimps in Hunts Point and right here, right outside this building. I had a little documentary about that shit. Hookers at the Point. Hookers at the Point. I was in Bay Area. Bay Area was the last place with real pimps with feathers in their hats. I used to go to 24 Hour Diner. It was nothing but pimps and holes in that motherfucker. That was the last remaining true pimps with the fucking wheel in the back of the car and the Cadillac. That was an era. The new era of pimps look like rappers.
33:36They pimping right now. You would never know. You'd probably think that's an upcoming rapper. Like, how does this nigga have so many chains? It's alive and well. It's alive and well? It's well. Live and well. It's flourishing. You know, it's a different they call that shit human trafficking now. No, I'm being real. It carries a lot of weight. Like, it's very risky. What? It's very risky. That shit like a Rico, that's worse than a Rico. You might as well rob this 7-Eleven or something. It used to be two years, lockdown is now 20. 20? Damn. Sexual trafficking. Human trafficking, just one little human.
34:13One little shlipper. Yeah, it's a fine line with that shit, but I'm telling you. They out there. Yeah, I don't want to. Any way you're going to get a dollar, But any way somebody can get a dollar, good or bad, evil, nice, they're going to do it. It ain't about human trafficking. It's about teamwork. Teamwork. You've got great minds together to figure out how to get all this money in and what we're going to do with it. There's a pimp, a hoe, and a trick in every situation. There's a pimp, a hoe, and a trick in every scenario. Oh, no, right about now. How you doing success? We better start downplaying your success.
34:50Because now you meet a mama seated in New York. She's like, puppy, my rent. You ain't even touch that shit. Puppy, my rent back six months. My baby father no pay. You got see money? Like now, this shit crazy out here. Like, it's like... Huh? My rent. My rent, puppy. They not even kill... They not wasting no time. They used to be like, all right, do you like me? All right, buy me something. Now it's like, hello. on the intro. Now you want the shit. I stole that shit from your man, Mr. Perfect, the nigga with the good teeth over there. Mr. Perfect. That's crazy. Mr. Perfect. What's your man's name?
35:31That's that? No, 100 Perfect. What's his name? 100 Perfect. 100 Summers. Call them 100 Perfect. 100 Perfect. 100 Summers. Yeah, I'm getting my teeth done on Tuesday. You know, let me tell you something. This shit is perfect. What else you gonna do to him? Nah, I need that. I need that smile I need that 3D where any angle you catch the shit the shit just smiling and shit you just like I gotta show you my happiness I gotta be like yo nigga you see that smile 360 from the peripheral that shit gotta come through and so they fake me out I'm scared of flying I'm scared of dentists although I love my dentists Dr.
36:17Fat Joe. J.D., want to hear my Fat Joe story? Hell yeah. You got one. Let's get it. Let's get to it. So we young rappers out here. I'm coming to New York. I'm doing my promo shit out here, fucking with Giant Records, whatever. And I see Joe somewhere, and he showed me a lot of love. He's like, yo, sure. What's up? We chopping it up. We always chopped it up. And he said to me, he said, whenever you in New York, fuck with me. Hit me up. Let's hang on. Let's do some shit. So I went back to some New York of people I knew. And I said, Fat Joe told me, you know, when I get out here, you know, hook up with him, hang out.
36:50They said, do not hang with Fat Joe and his crew. Don't fuck with them crazy Puerto Ricans. Do not do it. Them niggas is trouble. Oh, shit. We never hung out a lot. And that's why somebody said, if I hung out with you, you was going to have me out there wilding in the fucking Bronx, doing shit. He was a bad influence, man. Let me tell you, they gave you the wrong advice. Young Joe, young Joe. We come through.
37:16Joe is going to have me up in the Bronx, man, doing wild shit. I probably was going to be one of them. You probably would have had 18 Puerto Rican babies. You would have met a million J-Lo's, nigga. You talk about pimping. You would have came up top. You would have been like, oh, shit. You would have been fucking quiet. That I don't want. You would have asked what it would have been up in that Jimmy's Cafe. Like, yo, this shit crazy out here. nah he definitely would have been in Jimmy's what they gave you the wrong advice but you know it was more of a damn who said it the other day it was more of like when we came up you know everybody had an ice cream you looking at your man across the club and he looking at you and you go you can't even tell a joke a story cause out here they take kindness to weakness over here.
38:15So all this Fat Joe you seeing now that I tell stories, I'm joking, I'm this. You couldn't do it. You just couldn't do it. Because even niggas you was with would take kindness to weakness. Fat Joe at the tunnel. I got a better one for you. Everybody keep bragging about how dangerous the tunnel was. Big Pun used to go in a bathrobe with a million dollars of jewelry in his boxes in a bathrobe. I don't know what they talk about, how dangerous it was. One was in there in a bathrobe every Sunday with a million in jury and no problems. They just went the other way. I seen some shit in there. Legendary rap on rap crime.
38:59Nah. I seen some shit I will not discuss because I respect everybody. Nah. I respect everybody. The one thing that happened to me there, the one thing that made me, look. I'm a loyal guy. I won't double cross you. That's why I love Mac Tenenum out there because, you know, I was real hot in L.A. I had like mega, mega, mega beef out there. And then, you know, I'm the only rapper from New York that ever gave it. Like, but I'm just saying physical. So when I was out there, it was like, they were like, oh, we're going to tear him up. And I've been in some situations where Mac stepped up front line.
39:42It was like, nigga, he with it. It is what it is. I got to respect that in any weather. So I'm in the studio with Mace, Bad Boy, telling a million jokes. You probably was there. We all was there. We had the best time in my life. I always loved Mace. The next day, I'm in the tunnel on a Sunday. This nigga, Big L, come up to me, and Big L digging in the crate. Crack, you got your niggas with your head? Yeah, I got to see somebody. Come on. Nigga walk up to Mace and start talking crazy. And Mace looking at me. You know, this is crazy what I'm telling you. Because I hate that. Because Mace looking at me the whole time.
40:27He see the 20 Puerto Rican niggas and all that. He looking at me like, yo, crack. I was with you to six in the morning, nigga, telling jokes. I had no fucking clue that Big L was going to step to Mace. But I look like a foul nigga. I don't think Mace ever trusted me after that time. He looked at me. No, no, because it's a look. It's a look. Where that shit recently happened to me. But it wasn't no violence, but no, no, not. You know, I'm going to just say Khaled, the most peaceful man in the world, seeing somebody who's been talking about him or whatever, who's beyond the biggest ever created in the history of the world.
41:16This might have been the richest argument I ever seen. And the guy, Khaled is talking very aggressive. You don't want to know. Very, very like, yo, nigga, like you think it's just because you see me. And the guy the whole time is looking at me. He's my friend. Like, you my friend for 30, 40 years. He looking at me the whole time. I'm like, you letting this nigga talk like this? He looking at me like, yo, crack for real? You letting it? I see, yo, I keep grabbing Keller. Like, yo, Keller, like, come on, man, stop. But the guy he arguing with ain't even looking at him. He looking at me like this.
41:57That's what we saying, man. Fat Joe the Enforcer. The whole moral of the story. So you were smart. Your peoples were smart. They kept you out of that shit. He was going to have me. I was going to be a Bronx gangster. No, you was going to be good. They always loved you. Your video music box. I used to buy weed from the Dominicans on the 184th. That was about as far as I got. That's his stomping ground. That's his stomping ground. That's his stomping ground. I don't smoke, but I know every weed spot Jadakiss went to. They be like, yo, your man Jadakiss just left. I be like, oh, really? And I had them jars in Harlem.
42:38You said they go every weed spot. Jars at the candy store. I was up in that motherfucker. Post Avenue, all that shit. Every weed spot I ever passed because I knew them. I was there. I didn't smoke, but I knew them. I passed by. You know, I love doing this still to this day. I love driving a new fresh weed. You know what lyric hits me? Incredible every time the nigga ho said, done ain't lie. I done came through the block and everything that's fly. I'm like, that's my life to this day. I almost brought out the new whip. My wife said, no, that's our truck now. I'm like, I ain't dry that shit for one time.
43:21She like, you know, it's the fam. I said, God damn, they muscling me out of my shit right now. But I love going through the hood. Y 'all, what's up? Pulling up in that shit. Jumping out Harlem. The roof is down. Y 'all, what's good, niggas? What's this? I love that my whole life. So I've been doing that. And they always come. Yadakiss, you know, is most likely a Dominican. Yadakiss, your man. Just leave in the truck over here. He gets some jaws. Y 'all, Jada, you're outside. I don't smoke, but I know every weed spot you was at. Because they was telling me, yo, he just left. Yeah, he just left.
44:04Yeah, the kids just left with the bootay, papi. You got some new music. You got some new music? We got to keep it 1800. New track. Wouldn't one be him. Come on now. Let's keep it 1800. Let's keep it 1800. Let's keep it 1800. Every now and then we got to make songs dedicated to bitch niggas. No doubt. We got to make songs dedicated to bitch niggas a lot. There's a lot of bitch niggas out here. A lot of bitch niggas. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know you got to put that loud. Bring that back. Bring that back. Don't do that. Toast first. He can't beat it. Yo, hold up. Hold up. You cannot stop any hip hop low.
44:46Like, that shit got to blow the speakers off, Fred. New music. Make it fun. My dog. Let's check this new single out. wouldn't want to be him. You bitch ass nigga. Let's get it. Bitch ass nigga. Hey. I'm signing this your boy Lil Jon, man. But my dog too short. Bitch ass nigga. We're gonna talk to these bitch ass niggas out here. Hello, bitch. Ha ha ha. Hey. You a bitch. You a bitch. I just call it like I see it. You a hoe. You a hoe. I just call it like I see it. If you fake, then you fake. I just call it like I see it You a snake, you a snake I gotta call it like I see it Keep watching me Everything you saw I let these hoes ride my dick Till they fall off If you grind all winter Then you shine all summer But if you grind all year Then all that money just keep coming Stay focused on the bag They can't knock you off the track Put some paper on his head They gon' knock him off the map Frontin' like you love me And you talk behind my back I let the gang talk for me You're pimpin' ain't sayin' shit Cause you a hater, you a bitchin' You a bitchin', you a hater Yeah, I wish you would've made it But success ain't in your favor You too jealous, you worried About the next man He got a clean-ass car You a pedestrian You a bitch I just call it like I see it You a hoe I just call it like I see it If you fake, then you fake I just call it like I see it You can say you real all day That don't mean I'm gonna believe it You a bitch You ain't real, we can see it And when it's time to slide You end up leaving If you fake, I just call it like I see it What type of man act like a bitch Man, I wouldn't want to be loose lips and ships So you can't get on my boat If you gossip like a bitch You ain't nothing but a hoe Say you cool with every click Boy, you worse than a hoe You can't even fix your mouth to speak on me Because you broke Running around, playing games That's for little kids You need to cut the small talk Fuck all that, we do it big Big face on a rollie Big rims on a coupe They be stating big facts When they tell you I'm the truth I'm the pimp with all the games The number one supplier If they try to tell you different They some motherfucking liars I come from East Oakland The struggle I survived in My music is the GPS The game that you need guys Be a bitch I just call it like I see it You a hoe, you a hoe I just call it like I see it If you fake, then you fake I just call it like I see it You can say you real all day That don't mean I'm gon' believe it You a bitch You ain't real, we can see it We can see it And when it's time to slide, you end up leavin' Where you goin' If you fake, I just call it like I see it What type of man ain't like a bitch Man, I wouldn't wanna be Hey Hey Hey Hey The town in this motherfucker Hey ATL and this motherfucker motherfucking Lil Jon fuck them bitch ass niggas in this motherfucker hey you a bitch
48:31it ain't broke don't fix it I see you went back to Lil Jon and got another new clip my whole new album is all Lil Jon oh my that's about to be stupid you know Lil Jon my brother, man, salute to him and his family with what happened recently in the family. But, you know, Lil Jon, you know, when New York fronted on me, I-97 fronted on me and Lean Back first came out. Lil Jon called me and said, come to Summer Jam. I want you to perform that new joint you got. And trust me, I was trying to get on that stage and they was frontin' on me. And Lil Jon brought me out of fucking 80 ,000 motherfuckers was leaning back.
49:17That's when the world knew like, yo, this shit great, but it was Lil Jon. That's why in the remix it said, took it down South rubber to bring your boy out.
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51:40It's your girl, Sam Jay. And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports.
52:13Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalenka. Shout outs to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened. We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to everyone watches women's sports. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
52:38But I wanted to ask you something that slipped my mind because we talking, we shooting the shit. ATL. You're one of the first guys I ever met in the ATL. I don't know if you know. And you was out there early. Some of the stories that you've seen people come up. I know you was out there when Pac was out there. What was that like? You was an early guy in the ATL. What said, I'm moving the ATL. I'm setting up shop from the Bay Area. What made you move that ATL? What's some of the things you saw that was amazing to you out there? I already had connections out there. Some of my people had moved from Oakland out there.
53:21I had already had a connection to Atlanta when I was a kid. I stayed out there briefly, so I had a couple of people that I knew. I had been going to Atlanta since my music took off. And, you know, when I get to ATL back in, like, late 80s, early 90s, they treating a nigga like Michael Jackson. Like, it was, you know, they're, like, superstar status. So I go to Freak Nick 93 and have, like, the time of my life. I'm like, this shit is just too much motherfucking fun. And I went back for a member of Jack the Rapper Convention. Yeah, I was out there. So I go back to Jack the Rapper in 93. I just slid on to some neighborhood.
53:57Bought me a little crib. posted up in Atlanta. I'm coming out there with the, you know, with the California whips and shit. We already got big rims and shit touching down. They like... You got that black on black Benz. I had a new car every fucking 90 days. It was a new whip every 90 days. But I get out there, right? Eric Starman is out there. Remember him and Parrish split up. He went to Atlanta. He had the rim shop out there. Yeah, he out there. The rim shop. That's how New York niggas felt like. You go to Atlanta, that you got a home base. So you went with that. That's everybody. He was neighbors.
54:36My neighbor. We did a lot of shit together. Bobby Brown was out there. Wow. Bobby Brown, Tupac was out there. All these niggas was like, they having it their way. I pull up. Breed was out there. Breed's my homie, homie. That's my guy. That's the piece, MC Breed. I get out there. Now, I'm not wilder than Bobby Brown, but I'm as wild as. And everybody else is kind of like in their little space. Tupac's a wild motherfucker when he want to be. But Bobby Brown is the wildest. And I seen that nigga at Magic City one night. I was like, I know what I need to do out here. I need to be like Bobby Brown.
55:13I'm about to be out here having the time of my life. And it was just, it was at a point in my career where I'm probably on platinum album number four. And I'm like, I'm about to fucking set up shop out here and have time of my life. Boy, you had the time of your life. And it just happened to be so timely that the next year after I moved out there, here comes Outkast, Goody Mob. You know, the Atlanta music scene just started blowing up. And I'm like right there at the birth of it. When I got there, it was... Conception. TLC was singing Ain't Too Proud to Beg. And, you know, Jermaine... Keith Sweat was out there early too.
55:50Jermaine was just doing Chris Cross. That was just happening. And Keefe was out there, but Keefe is a player. And Keefe is like, he grabbed his little community. His little tribe. You know, he'd be out of his house, out in Alpharetta somewhere or something. He's like, he's a little above the typical. Oh, he wasn't in the story like that. He was. Keefe was a nigga nigga. He was. But he had to come to him. He wasn't in the trenches. He ain't seen Tupac shoot the cops and shit like that. You was out there. I wouldn't have seen Kiefer the little grimy strip club in Decatur somewhere like we was doing.
56:27You know, smoky ass room, gambling on the pool table. I went to Atlanta and went in the trenches. My man, Big X, with the Coalition DJs, Spearhead X, he used to work for Dallas Austin. I'm like, X, what's how you get off work? Like, six o 'clock, nigga, let's go. And we just, that nigga just had me everywhere. I remember I was scared to fly. I didn't give a fuck if I was in Texas. I was in Miami. I was anywhere. that tour bus will pull up to the ATX. When I got to Atlanta, you could get a lap dance for$5. Oh, yeah. Strippers was$5. Like Magic City might cost you$10 or some other club, Gold Club or something.
57:04All over the city,$5. Get a$100 bill. Bitch dance for you all night, $100 bill. I don't gamble. I don't gamble, but one night, Puff Daddy's at the Intercontinental. He got this big-ass suite and they shoot the dice. Don't ask me how, because I really don't gamble. But I take him for all his money. $40 ,000. That nigga wait. He kept. It's so hard to be part of daddy because he got so much money. He kept going back, pulling out an envelope with another$10 ,000. Coming back. And the rules is in New York. You just can't leave with the money. You got to play that kid out. Give me a chance to win my money back.
57:45I took that nigga for like$40 ,000. Right? I leave. I think I'm doing some shopping. I get a phone call. Yo, son, you took my money, playboy. We got to go out tonight. You just can't. This, this, this. So we end up in like Magic City. The man made me spend my whole$40 ,000. Yeah, the spending, having fun with him. My whole$40 ,000 throwing. He was like, yeah. And we throwing the money. And he's like, yeah, crack at this. And I'm like, damn, this nigga ain't want me to get away with one Puff Daddy dollar, man. No way. We wind up throwing that shit in that magic city. That Atlanta's just different, man.
58:24It was different. And me, my experience with Tupac is I've never seen Tupac not beefing or beating somebody up or pulling out a gun. Like every time. The happy Tupac. No, I bumped into Tupac 20 times. All 20 times he was giving niggas hell. The one time I could say was PG-13. We in the movie theater. or some, you know how they do the screenings of a movie and everybody in there, like a celebrity or something, his phone rang. Like, nigga, what'd I tell you? Fuck you. Suck my dick. Yo, hold up. He gets up to probably go out to the hallway. He just, I mean, that was the nicest I ever seen Tupac. Tupac, every time I see he was beating niggas up, pulling out.
59:05He had a fun side, though, like that I've seen many times. I never got that one. Tupac would smile and laugh. Tell me a funny a nice guy's Tupac story because my experience, I've never seen it. The nicest I've seen we in a movie theater, he cursed a nigga out on the phone. He was on some shit when I was here. All I know is don't bring your bitch around Tupac. Tupac. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Don't bring your bitch around him. You might as well just leave her when you get there. Just like, call me tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, all the hoes. He got all the hoes. He had all the hoes, right? He had the hoes. Shit. Right now, I think Drake, the new Tupac.
59:49I just seen some party he had. It was about 20 ,000 chicks and three dudes. You seen that footage? Mm-mm. Holy shit. This guy in the sketch, he do it together. I mean, he in New York doing shit. New York, they never did before. It's all good as long as they ain't cash-happing them. And then it's like a transaction. If it's just, I'm here because I want to be here. Drake, no risk, he cash-happing. I'm not saying. He's so rich. Nah. What makes it all bad? The cash app. Like, if you fucking... If you gotta pay to play. I sat down one day. I don't think Dre gotta pay to play. He might do it for a sport, the sport, but...
1:00:27But at the same time... Ah, he's too rich, man. New album, sir. Too short. Volume 2. When it's coming out? July 31st. I'm out. July 31st. July 31st? That's right around the corner. Man, I'm getting that shit with Lil Jon. to celebrate my labor day. You gotta be out of this world. My whole month of August is gonna be listening to that. Make sure you got wharf. When you drop, a little colder, August. Make sure you got wharfers, man. Gotta have wharfers. I heard all that bass and that shit. You almost blew the fucking speakers off. Be careful what you wish for. That's just that. That's, hey, that's the history of a part of what I do, though.
1:01:10That I'm literally in the studio going, I'm gonna make these niggas blow. they will be speaking. That's really what I be saying. You're a wolf and stuff. That's extra tweaking when you mix it and mastering it all. I had a song in the young days, Freaky Tales. Freaky Tales is one of my old school classics. And I remember being in the studio with the engineer and I remember the bass, the 808, was on track one. I keep hitting track one. That's what I did though. And the engineer keep pulling down. He ain't saying nothing to me. I push it back up. Hate them niggas, man. And he pull it down. I'm like, leave the bass alone.
1:01:44He said, if you push the bass up this far, the needle is not going to stay in the groove of the record. I remember him saying that stupid ass shit. I said, nigga, we ain't selling no records. These cassettes. Turn this shit up. Fuck the record shit. And I pushed it up. That bass is legendary. Listen. To this day when you play it. All promoters. That's crazy. All promoters, all concert owners, all studio guys, if you got a wall with 72 speakers, don't put the shit on one or two and don't be scared to crank it up. I do concerts where the niggas got a wall a mile long of speakers and I'm like, turn the mic up.
1:02:23Turn the music up. Like, what the fuck are you trying to do? Preserve the speaker? Fuck is all these speakers doing here for? Like, they do this shit to us all the time. It's that new shit. Old hip hop, they used to beat the sound man up. Yeah. Old hip hop. Oh, yeah. Put your nigga over there. You beat your DJ up on stage, all type of shit. Put the nigga over there to No, it was bad. Big Pun with engineers. Them niggas was terrified. And Big Pun always had guns on them. So Big Pun to start the session to pull out like a Mac 11 on the shit when he's starting to rhyme. And the engineer, probably some young white kid.
1:02:59And he's a pun star. Like, yo, Papa! Like, yo, B! Wanna hear the bass a little bit more? This niggas used to be terrified of this nigga. Like, he was... I've seen some... How are you with the engineers, Kiss? Are you a good guy with the engineers? Maybe not. Do they make you mad? How is he with the engineers? Do they make you mad? Do you curse out the engineers? I got my own engineers. But I seen the shit I seen puff tell engineers. It made me have a whole different heart for engineers. I seen all types. I seen niggas tell engineers. Not even just puff. more people, X, all kind of people. Engineers can get under your skin, though.
1:03:46Oh, they could. They got their own opinion. You just like, yo, do what I said. Like, that time we talk about Tupac, I heard Tupac was like, yo, just record what I do, nigga. ain't nobody asked you. Like, yeah. He's like, just record it. Don't fucking give me your... None of your fucking business. Nigga, just record it. I watch Rapid Street Engineers like when you go to Chinese restaurant. I want more fucking hot sauce on my chicken wing. More ketchup, nigga. I remember a Tupac session, but I don't know what happened. All I know is the engineer had a black eye and he was very nervous. And they was fucking like, somebody sat a glass of Hennessy on the fucking SSL.
1:04:30The SSL, million dollar board. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the engineer, he wanted him to get the Hennessy off the thing. You already got a black eye, bro. Like, just leave the Hennessy. This guy don't learn. Leave it alone, man. Some guys don't learn, man. Leave it alone. I don't know how you got the black eye. I do know in Oakland, I don't know the whole story. I just know what happened the night I was there. It was a session. And the engineer was making the artist and whoever was in the room upset. And the nigga just said, the nigga in the back room said, all right, you remember what happened to Trevor?
1:05:08That motherfucker started shaking. I don't know what happened to Trevor. I think Trevor... Damn, this... This sound like one of them BET after dark movies. Trevor's in the river. This just sound like one of these BET after dark movies. The session ended. The owner of the studio came and said, I don't know, you guys did something to my engineer. We got to get close and it's over. I don't have another engineer. Something happened to Trevor. We got to close. We got to close out. But let me tell you, I got a funny one for you. Scott Storch is doing Hulk Hogan's daughter's whole album. Homie Scott.
1:05:42Brooke, how about you? Storch produced a whole album. And one day, this engineer's up in the hit factory. He talking about wrestling is fake. This and that. Your man, Hulk Hogan, was in there. He took that nigga and body slammed that nigga on the SSL. What? Thank God the guy ain't sue him. we ain't see it on the news, but Hulk Hogan said, you fucking jabroni body slammed that nigga on the cause, you know, it's disrespect you know Hulk Hogan here and the thing you want to talk about is wrestling is straight, that nigga body slammed that nigga, broke his back on the board, like boom, nigga I ain't gonna lie, he ain't calling cops he ain't sue, he took but you know, yo, your engineers man, we love you guys, man they winning now though, they winning now though Keep mixing.
1:06:35This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for too short, you heard?
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