In short
Ty Dolla $ign discusses his solo album Tycoon (1017), his R&B/hip-hop influences, his work with Kanye West during “Vultures,” and his views on modern music performance and authenticity. He also promotes his documentary Still Free TC and talks about running his Easy Money label.
Guests
Todd Dollar Sign (host/guest in the Joe and Jada Show intro; referenced as “hook master/song master” and a music-career helper). Ty Dolla $ign is the main interviewee.
Guest backgrounds
Todd Dollar Sign is presented as a songwriter/producer who can craft hooks and help artists launch careers. Ty Dolla $ign is an R&B/hip-hop artist whose father was in Lakeside; he cites Prince, Earth, Wind & Fire, and classic R&B/rock as training for his style.
Key claims
Tycoon is his first solo project in nearly four years; he says it’s “a restaurant” with something for everyone. He credits his father for musical DNA and says he’s been independent for 15 years. He says Kanye made him redo verses many times and required a large hook lineup, and that Kanye’s “Vultures” success included “Vogel’s” going number one. He argues modern artists should let talent speak instead of “acting crazy” onstage.
Notable examples
Features on Tycoon include Kodak Black, YG, and Leon Thomas (Easy Money’s first signed artist). He describes Kanye’s “another round” transformation of a track and a Hype Williams video request (he paid major expenses). He references his documentary’s Free TC origin: his brother’s incarceration for a murder Ty says he didn’t commit, with a witness later claiming coercion.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMusical Influences and Early Experiences
0:30 to 1:06
Ty Dolla $ign shares his musical background and influences.
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Musical Influences and Early Experiences
1:36 to 3:02
Ty Dolla $ign shares his musical background and influences.
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Musical Influences and Early Experiences
4:21 to 6:04
Ty Dolla $ign shares his musical background and influences.
“I damn near might use that on the album.”
Discussing the 'Tycoon' Album
6:04 to 8:13
Ty Dolla $ign talks about his latest album 'Tycoon' and its features.
“I mean, it put me on to the greatest music possible.”
The Journey of Easy Money Records
8:13 to 11:08
Ty Dolla $ign discusses his label and the artists he works with.
“Banger after banger after banger is something for everybody, man.”
Collaboration with Kanye West
11:08 to 14:00
Ty Dolla $ign reflects on his collaboration with Kanye West.
“How would you just get on the rats that fast?”
Collaborating with Kanye West
14:01 to 19:15
Learn about the experience of working with Kanye West and the challenges faced.
“He hit you with the 6 '7", you know this shit.”
Independent Artist Challenges
19:16 to 21:04
Discuss the trials of being an independent artist in the music industry.
“I took a big L, but I was happy I got to work with him, but you know.”
Documentary Insights
21:05 to 23:28
Explore the personal stories and motivations behind Ty Dolla $ign's documentary.
“but it's still got all the other elements and shit, so YG hopped on here, and here we are, Smile Body, Pretty Face.”
Networking for Justice
23:29 to 24:21
Understand the importance of connections in advocating for justice.
“That's like a lot of people out here that is going to tell you whatever to get your money.”
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Filming a Life Story
24:22 to 26:19
Discover the challenges and experiences of documenting one's life.
“I don't know why I didn't think of that.”
Navigating Fame and Family
26:20 to 28:00
Discuss the complexities of maintaining relationships amidst fame.
“I'm just trying to say, we talk all the time.”
Reflections on Life and Legacy
28:00 to 29:02
Ty Dolla $ign shares his thoughts on legacy and giving back.
“bullshit that come at you and everybody's insensitive and you going through this you going through that they don't give a fuck about you.”
Reflections on Life and Legacy
29:08 to 30:02
Ty Dolla $ign shares his thoughts on legacy and giving back.
“you're probably thinking of music or world-class hotels and casinos.”
Reflections on Life and Legacy
30:03 to 33:08
Ty Dolla $ign shares his thoughts on legacy and giving back.
“Not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida.”
Celebrating Achievements
33:58 to 34:35
Discussion about personal achievements and family pride.
“Monthly rates on the Total Base 5G Unlimited plan.”
Parenting Challenges and Pride
34:36 to 36:24
Dialogue on the challenges of parenting and celebrating children's successes.
“We talk about what it's been like watching the show become such a massive hit, what's next for season two, and just how close the off-campus cast really is.”
Observations on Youth Culture
36:25 to 41:11
Insights on current youth culture and financial behaviors.
“I've seen a lot of kids in her position with parents like us that just lean on the parents.”
The American Dream and Future Aspirations
41:12 to 42:00
Discussion on the American dream and hopes for the future.
“Niggas stopped drinking champagne out here for real.”
Parenting and Relationships
42:00 to 45:39
Exploring parenting challenges and the importance of open communication.
“Then you can shop, do whatever you want to do.”
Music Collaborations and Influences
45:40 to 48:24
Discussion on musical collaborations with notable artists and personal influences.
“yeah we gotta give him a round of applause for being a billboard power player fuck exactly thank you I mean he doing shit he's the biggest.”
R&B Evolution and Future
48:25 to 52:19
Analyzing the evolution of R&B music and expectations for its future.
“We were starting to get recognition, but there was no real hit off of that.”
Age and Authenticity in Music
52:20 to 56:00
Debating the authenticity of older artists trying to re-enter the music scene.
“I get her voice, her tone, that music that folded, that this, that's Brandi.”
The Delusion of Rap Success
56:00 to 59:56
Explore the unrealistic perceptions of success in the rap industry.
“It's one thing if you're OG, you mob deep, you fat, you're Jaded Kiss, you this, this, this, you've been doing this forever.”
Ty Dolla $ign's Musical Aspirations
59:56 to 1:01:59
Ty Dolla $ign discusses his desire to be a singer and the beauty of music.
“I guess rap is rap, but to me, singing, to me, is more beautiful.”
The Importance of Collaboration
1:01:59 to 1:03:12
A conversation about the relationship between Ty Dolla $ign and Hitmaker.
“With Todd Dollar, he disappears sometimes, guy.”
The Importance of Collaboration
1:04:09 to 1:04:48
A conversation about the relationship between Ty Dolla $ign and Hitmaker.
“Or if you or someone in your family had medullary thyroid cancer, or if you've had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2.”
The Importance of Collaboration
1:06:23 to 1:06:56
A conversation about the relationship between Ty Dolla $ign and Hitmaker.
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Transcript
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3:02Call 1-800-545-5979 or visit zepbounds.lily.com. You know, I'm a little bit off the weird shit now. You know what I'm saying? When we're artists acting with, like, and all that shit. All that shit. Can you give us an example? What? Yeah. Yeah.
3:37What up, y 'all? This is Joe Crack. It's your boy, Jada Kiss. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada Show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. And we keep our word to you with just that. today you got to give it up for our guest he's the hook master he's the song master he can talk your lady out of drawers if you let him he can give you he can bring you back if you searching for it if you need some help just getting help getting your career off the ground or back off the ground or whatever you need musically he's the go to guy ladies and gentlemen and make some noise for our brother, Todd Dollar Sign.
4:21Appreciate you. Appreciate you. How you like that intro? I love that. I love that intro. That's actually the best intro so far. I damn near might use that on the album. I was over here saluting you. Yo, let me tell you something. That was a hell of a fucking intro right there. It was all facts as well. Sometimes he leaves off a little. It's all facts. Sometimes he tries to go too humble. I'm like, yo, bro, we just had Hit Boy there. I'll in my world, that's like fucking Beethoven and Mozart. I'm like, yo, hold on. Let's just call a Beethoven and Mozart because these guys are phenomenal. But we have Ty Dolla$ign, who could have been a member of Boyz II Ben.
5:05Could have been a member of Guy. Could have been a member of Jodeci. I think you're the only artist because, believe it or not, you've been in the game in a while, but you're still the relevant youth artist. Yeah. Nobody looks at you like, yo, you know, you're the only one that I could just mention and say, yo, he could have been in one of these legendary groups. What's that like? Did you come up listening to these guys? Yeah, I definitely came up listening to them guys and even further back, my pops was in the group Lakeside, so. Fantastic, boy. Exactly, exactly. So from there and even before that.
5:44Slip inside, slip inside. Your father was in that group. Yeah. That's it. So I've been like studying all the different R &B styles, the rock styles, the hip hop styles, and all that applies to what I'm doing today. When you was young, you was able to meet Prince, Earth, Wind, and Fire. Yeah. What did that spark? What did that do for you? Musical DNA. I mean, it put me on to the greatest music possible. You know what I mean? So like I said, all that still applies in what I'm doing. today. You know what I'm saying? You could just reach back into the files and be like, oh yeah, let's use that sound or let's use that riff or whatever case.
6:22You know what I'm saying? You want to know what's crazy is. You know what I'm tight with Cool and Dre. And I remember, you know, Dre makes hooks. And one day Dre made a hook that nobody could sing. He did the brown paper bag. And we try to get every top singer in the user a universe at the time for Khaled. Nobody could have hit. Oh, Dre didn't want to stay on him? No, it was like a reference. But with you, whoever was the hottest guys at the time, it was Khaled single. We was trying to get him on there and they couldn't hit that note. Pause, right? I feel like you, there's nothing you can't do.
7:04Like, nobody can give you a reference that you can't do that. Yeah, for sure. That's crazy. Because some people be like, yo, I can't. gift. No, for sure, for sure. Like I said, if it wasn't for Pops for real, man, and all that put me on to all that old stuff, it's like, I always try to mimic every single thing, starting back from what you said, Prince, Earth, Wind, and Fire. That's some very high notes. You know what I'm saying? I may not be able to get way up there, but I'll figure it out. You'll get it. Like, yeah. I'll turn my voice into a chipmunk if I have to. That's really crazy. First solo project in nearly four years, Tycoon.
7:45Yeah. What made you want to pull the trigger right now? What told you? I'm always doing music. I was going to put out a solo project before I started the Vultures era. You know what I'm saying? And now it's time for the solo project. So Tycoon, 1017, there's 15 tracks on there. if you buy the album and you get two extra bonus tracks. Banger after banger after banger is something for everybody, man. I look at my shit, my album's like a restaurant. You know what I'm saying? It's like... I got something on the menu for everybody. Exactly. You gotta have every restaurant I go to, I'm like, yo, what's the Big Mac?
8:27Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you go to McDonald's, you need the Big... The Big Mac been... The Big Mac been playing the rap for a long time. You go to Burger King, it's a Whopper. Right? Something pays the bills all the time. So I go to a restaurant, I say, listen, man, it's my first time here. What's your Big Mac? I need the Big Mac. What's the best shit that everybody, somebody is coming in there, every night they want that fish, they want that, it's always something. Yeah. You know, he's saying he got 15 Big Macs on that album, and two free if you purchase the album. Right. Yeah. Now, look, we got features, some mean ones.
9:05Kodak Black. Mm. YG. him and YG always make fire joints. Question. Leon Thomas. That's him. Okay. Yeah, Leon Thomas also signed to my label. Oh, where? He was our first artist we signed to Easy Money Records. Shout out to my brother Sean Van. Y 'all getting a lot of fuck. Where the money over there, dog? Make your die? Don't start bragging about no money. Jayden get real fucking mad. He getting a lot of money over there, man. Let him start bragging about money. That motherfucker be like, yo, man, y 'all getting too much money. He's the first artist on your list? He was the first artist on the label.
9:39What's the song? What's the song again? Mutt. The shit you in. Oh, yeah. Yo, I got Mutt. Number one. Oh, that's that shit. Number one rhythmic. Number one, all type of other shit. He got a new record that just reached number 11 on Hot 100. So, you're moving, man. Shout out to the other four artists that we just signed. Who's the other four artists? Let's give them a shout out. You got RJ the Weirdo. You got Keith Turner. You got Busy Crook, Major. and you got Sage from Texas. Man, everybody on the label is crazy. For sure. I know you know so much. You know music so much. And with them being talented, y 'all just sitting together plotting on music.
10:21It's going to be incredible. Yeah, for sure. You know, Jada, what area you went? Because you know I jump all over the place. You know, I'm just supposed to ask him, how is it having your own label? Like, what's the, how do you like it so far? I like it because I basically get to bless back. And everything that happened to us as artists, when we saw mistakes, I get to make sure that them same mistakes don't happen this way. Ways that I felt like we should have been getting paid and somebody was fucking us over. I ain't going to do that to the next people. Certain people will be like, oh, this happened to me, so that's what you're supposed to do.
10:57But I'm like, nah, man. Let's clean this shit up. You know, that's how ratting became a thing. Yeah. Somebody ratted it. They said somebody ratted on me. Then it turned into an epidemic. Turned into an epidemic. How would you just get on the rats that fast? Nah, we just, nah, but what he's trying to say is, that's my vision, right? You know, people always used to say, artists shouldn't sign the artists. My vision was always, we got fucked. Who can help you better than the artists? We made all those mistakes. so we trying to guide you so you don't make the mistakes. Yeah. I mean, I'm all in with that.
11:38Easy Money is the name of the label, huh? Easy Money, the name of the label. Le Bon Arjan, the name of the champagne, that mean good money. Le Bon Arjan. Ty Dolla$ign. Ty Dolla$ign. He is the money. To the champagne. You know what I'm saying? Le Bon Arjan. Fucking shit sound like it's from France and all that. It is. It can't be champagne if it ain't from France. We ain't big enough, bitch, it ain't. Le Bon Arjan. Shit, shit. All right, all right, J.D., you got me. You got me. I mean, you know it is what it is. We got the documentary coming soon. It's called Still Free TC. Yeah, sure. You get to see the whole lifespan of Ty Dolla$ign from the beginning until now.
12:18The ups and downs. I mean, people only get to see the good shit, but this time you get to see the family. You get to see everything I went through coming up, growing up in South Central and making it to the levels that we at now. And even there's, you know, still struggle now, you know what I'm saying? That you got to go through to get to the next level because there's always a level I'm trying to reach. I ain't comfortable. You know, the elephant in the room is what's it like doing a project with Kanye West? Yeah. in the middle because I feel like you stood tall with him when people ain't want to stand next to him at the time yeah and you was in crazy Kanye like you was in that in there yeah like at the shit what and the flames of the flames what's it what made you say y 'all I'ma stand with this man uh we gonna make music cause we know how that shit be when somebody be into some hot shit, everybody run away.
13:20Yeah. What made you say, nah, this is the time I'm going to hold my man down and I'm going to make music with him? What is that whole shit, that whole time? When it comes to making music, you already know what it do with him. You know what I'm saying? Like, just from the track record, and then y 'all see what happened with us. The music is the music. Vogel's went number one. You know what I'm saying? So, it was a success. A lot of people say whatever they say, but I stick to my guns. I made one of the best musical projects ever. Like you said at the intro, when it come to music, you come to me.
13:55You know what I'm saying? And I did that over there. You know what I mean? All the bullshit, 6 '7", you know what I'm saying? It's not even worth talking about. He hit you with the 6 '7", you know this shit. Yeah, but what I'm trying to say is, you know, when I recorded, I recorded one song with Kanye. he made me do my verse with 400 people on the hook but you and Ed you blessed me on that hook man but it ain't about the money I don't really care what'd you say 400 people on the hook yeah cause we did a joint prior to joint it was at least 50 people on the hook what's it 50 it was you Busta Mos Def it was mad people mad people what before it came out or no he made the hook yeah he had some genius idea that he heard different vocals and he made mad people say it.
14:45Was it came out hard or no? Came out great, but it was already a hit, right? So it was like, I'm coming right off of the Chris Brown, another round. Yeah. You know when you're on fire, you got that extra, your ear's like, okay. So we had a joint that we did with Bink and Rico Love and then Kanye was like, yo, Joe, I want to work with you. Now, he's one of my favorite artists of all time. He's a genius. So I said, great. He said, what you think? And you drop it. And then I play it for him. He says, I got some idea. He turned the whole song around, right? So it was like, just think another round part two.
15:24We already had the dope hook, this, this. And he turned to hip hop. And he was like, even if it wasn't about the money, he put everybody and their mother on the hook. So it was like 10 of us, 15 of us on the hook. But the point I'm saying is, I was in the studio. That shit went from 4 ,000. He made me say my verse. Maybe a hundred times in a row. He'd be like, Colder sack. Colder sack. Colder sack. I'm like, you know, I'm like, I got the Kanye West. At the time, I might have been the only dude that ever lost with the nigga. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm thinking everything he does wins.
16:05He's over there. That was a good show. Yeah, but you know, I want the supremacy. You know what it is. And then he goes, I want to be number one. You know how that shit go? And then I go to man, go, he make me take the... I'm independent, by the way. I've been independent for 15 years. So I pay for my videos, my samples, my songs, my... Everything. I pay for everything. That man want a fucking Hype William video. We shoot a Hype William video. Hype William, I swear to God, he came with a flashlight. Like... Hype Williams came with like a regular camera and I paid hundreds of thousands. And he had the flashlight on us while we was like, you talk about getting jerked in your face.
16:52Like you. Oh, pause. Yo, you know how much money I paid for this shit? This nigga came with a flashlight. Yo. You think of Hype Williams, you're going to float in the air and all that shit, man. came with the flashlight. I'm looking, then I go, and then the only thing... I'm trying to remember this video. Oh, yeah, Pride of Joy. That motherfucker was hard, though, huh? We got... Y 'all, listen, listen. Y 'all, you better stop. You better stop. Y 'all, y 'all, y 'all, y 'all. You can't. Y 'all, listen, y 'all, Ty. That man made me use Hype Williams. All right, so I'm just saying I'm independent, right?
17:35It's a lot of money, but not only that, The only thing he ever charged me for was his wardrobe. I walked by the fuck in his wardrobe. He got$7 ,000 tank tops and shit. Man, I used to rob supermarkets, B. I fucking had a problem with this shit. You hear me? Like a tank top,$7 ,000. I'm walking through from France to this. That's the hustle, right? What's the hustle? Yeah, that's the option. Don't charge, just expenses. And the expenses is fucking... Bro! Bro, I went through that wardrobe. I was walking out that shit twitching like, yo, who's paying for this? You are. This is the wardrobe. The separate wardrobe.
18:22Man, that boy hit me with a fucking hammer on my head. I said, boom, he come over there. You remember what the bill was? It was about$49 ,000,$50 ,000. But the problem is... This boy's wardrobe? If a man came with some Bottega, he killed it was tank tops bro i'm not exaggerating like who the fuck want to pay 7 000 for a tank i'm looking at the shit i say this shit unreal it's gonna be number one joe even i even lost because you know you got to put down a radio budget like i'm a radio like i go for the home run i don't play right so i put down the radio budget a couple of hundred thousand out my pocket and the shit don't work.
19:02And I doubled down on the radio. It's the only record in the world I ever paid twice for the radio, but I doubled down on the bitch. I was like, no, this shit. Gotta go. Stick with the program. I was like, no, yo, bro, I took that. I took a big L, but I was happy I got to work with him, but you know. Yeah. Nobody ever made me say the verse 100 times. That's crazy. So I know what that was like. You working with the man. Yeah, I never had to say a verse a hundred times, but... Dang. I heard other people say the same story, for sure. Oh, he did that. That's that producer shit, though, you know? It's like...
19:39So he hears what he's looking for. Yeah. He's doing it. I'm a producer as well, though, so... It's like... You play every instrument, right? Yeah, for sure. Correct? Yeah. So your father told you... The only thing I don't play is like brass and woodwinds and shit like that, but... Bass, guitar, keys, drums, make the beats, write the song. produce the song, engineer the song, whatever you want to do. Man, promote the motherfucking song. Some mo. All that. Promotions. That's all the extra shit. You know what I'm saying? That's like, you know, we creatives, we want to make the shit, see it go, and then they're like, all right, now you got to go promote the shit.
20:21You got to kiss babies and fucking, like nobody promoted. People just think it's just going to the studio and make a song and that's it. but it's way bigger than that. What's up with the joint with Kodak? How was it making that? It was easy. Me and Kodak had another song on my album. He was like, yo, man, I really want to use this song for my album at the last fucking minute. I'm like, all right. He was like, don't trip. I got you on another one. And he sent me that. That might be better than the other one, but we're going to see. His album about to drop next, and he's going to have the other one on there.
20:54No doubt. But yeah, man, shout out to Kodak. as soon as I did my part, I'm like, okay, this gotta be the one, because I didn't have YG on the album, but I was looking for one, but I'm like, all right, this is perfect, because it feels West Side, but it's still got all the other elements and shit, so YG hopped on here, and here we are, Smile Body, Pretty Face. It's out right now. I mean, let me tell you something, brother, man. You done work with some characters, man. You just a safe place. and they see you as a safe place. Yeah. But, man, I've just been a big fan, man. I love when you bless me with the, me and Remy with the money showers.
21:35Oh, that's a classic right there. Money showers? Yeah. Rain. Rain, rain. A whole lot of money showers. Thank you for having me on that joint, too. What? Yeah. That shit fire right there, man. Like I said, man, you never let me down, man. You always come through, man. You're, you're, you're a really great guy, man. A great, great person, man. But I want to, make sure you get your flowers. I'm sure your fans know that too because you manage to stay out of controversy and all that bullshit. You know what I'm saying? It's like everybody feel like they got to be... But here on this podcast, we just celebrate, you know, we preserve the culture.
22:11You know what I mean? You know, a lot of other people like to just deal with the controversy and what's the shit to say to be fucked up or whatever the case may be. We don't do that. Yeah. The documentary. You showed it at the Tribeca Film Festival. Yeah, I showed it. By the time the lights came on, man, you seen tears. You seen just everybody ready to free TC. Like, what can I do? So in the documentary, it shows my whole life coming up. Some of y 'all know, if you're a real Ty Dolla$ign fan, my first album was called Free TC because my little brother locked up for a murder that everyone in the city knows he didn't do.
22:55And the witness that said he did it originally came back and said she was coerced. Nothing has happened since then. And he's just been in that situation. We all know that he's not the only one that this is happening to. It's people all over. And I used that first album to bring awareness to that situation. And we're still in this situation. So I wanted to give you more of a visual than just songs so people can really fuck with it and really feel it. And maybe that would get me to who I need to get to. Because I feel like in this life, like what really matters is who you know. You know what I mean?
23:33That's like a lot of people out here that is going to tell you whatever to get your money. I got to keep it real with you because you're my brother and you've been$10 ,000 with me. Here we don't do the politics, but you need to get next to somebody who knows Donald Trump. Yeah. you might be right next to Kodak Black he know who to talk to you know what I'm saying right there 3, 4, Meek, Holler at us, Robbie Traff somebody I'm telling you the truth if your brother's really innocent you got these people right around you like Kodak Black know who the fuck to talk to you should ask him who you talk to, who was your lawyer who represented you and that's where you go and you are correct it's all about who you know My shit be like...
24:19Brother, innocent. No, that's it. That's it. I don't know why I didn't think of that. I consider myself a very smart person, but I don't know how the fuck I didn't think of that. So, yeah. No, Kodak Black know who to talk to. No, that's it, for sure. Definitely gonna make that after. You know, he ain't that crazy. Motherfucker, he crazy. He's smutting up behind that wall. He said, yo, go get Roger Walson Thorpe. That motherfucker get me out of jail. Hell yeah, shit. Hell yeah. That's what you got to give. That's it. I'm just telling you the truth. Free game. You know what I'm saying? Free TC, man.
24:54Free TC. That's crazy. And the documentary, you know, like me, I don't have people filming me and shit like that. I don't really trust nobody. So how hard is that for you to have people filming you? I purposely, I think I would have some fire content if I had a cameraman with me all day, but I'd be in y 'all stepping shit a hundred times. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to keep them miggas away from me, bro. You know what I'm saying? But you did it in purpose of a documentary one day? It's just been, I've been getting filmed my whole life, for real. And I'm sure you have as well. And it was just like getting all that footage, you know, from the kids shit all the way till now.
25:35And then 2013, 14, I really had a guy following me on certain shit and put all that footage together, made a timeline, put in story form, did some narration, and now you got a documentary. You know, got my mom in there, got my pops in there. Of course, got the calls with my brother, got the lawyers, got the whole story, you know what I mean? I still got to come back right now and put my sister in there because once I watched the whole thing, then she called like, oh, I'm not in the documentary. I'm like, oh, fuck. Can't leave nobody out. You can't leave nobody out. It don't work that way. Yeah.
26:16It don't work that way, but I got to put my sister in there. No, no, you got to put it in there. I'm just trying to say, we talk all the time. We be like, yo, you just, in life, you just can't make everybody happy. You can't. And she was in there too, but she just didn't get it in there. It wasn't enough. Yeah, she got it in. She needed to get it. I remember I did something big, like an award show, and I got one of my brothers in there and just, I thought it felt like Yo, he keeping it real with his day one. His day one is there. I got the phone calls from people so mad that I had my man front row, like, because they wasn't there this.
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26:52You know that we, I was like in some scandalous shit. But I'm like, yo, all I try to do was show love. And let you know, yo, Fat Joe might be on this level, but he didn't forget the day ones. And that turned into all the other day ones tight as a fuck. Nah, that's how it goes. You just can't make nobody happy. That's how it goes. From homies to family, all that shit. It'd be crazy, bro. In this music shit. Damn if you do, damn if you don't. I just want to take all my money and move to an island and change my number and leave me the fuck alone. Let me eat a mango on the beach. I thought about doing that a couple times, bro.
27:35I heard they got castles and motherfucking... Great. I heard they got two million dollar castles and shit in Europe and they could be a duke you could be a duke grandpa I set up a castle go mind your business man because it's like shit I might get up out of here like these motherfuckers you ever felt like they trying to bust your like I be feeling like they trying to like dead ass bust my brain though like with all the bullshit that come at you and everybody's insensitive and you going through this you going through that they don't give a fuck about you. They don't make their point. They don't care about us.
28:11They don't give a fuck if your high pressure, your blood pressure high. They want to crack this shit. You know what? You know what? They don't really care about us. I'm ready to make my will and all my money go to the fucking the kids choir of Memphis, Tennessee. Some shit I never even met. They be like, all right, sit the whole family around and be like. I always say Until the animal preservation of Congo Fadjo left all the money They gonna purge Fuck you They gonna purge Oh they gonna go crazy They gonna go crazy It's gonna be somebody I don't even fucking know To the Scandinavian Kids in the Catholic school All the fucking money
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34:31Oh no. That's like the number one rule of watching something. It's literally cheating. That's crazy. We talk about what it's been like watching the show become such a massive hit, what's next for season two, and just how close the off-campus cast really is. We're genuinely so close. What's the group chat called? If you can say, if it's allowed to be said on the pod. That's a great question. One of them is off-campus Brazil. Okay, love it. Shout out Brazil. Shout out Brazil. And then the boys have their own group chat called Dean's B******. Our conversation with Mika Abdallah is out now. Go check it out.
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35:14you're a real dad how you like it man I love it when I ain't gonna lie when I knew I was about to have a daughter I was scared of shit of course I'm starting to figure out she 20 now bro 20 years old doing a 19 I know so you know exactly how it is what so look mine 20 she just started at Pepperdine University 21 and 10 Pepperdine University to get her master's degree. So yeah, you did the math. She already got her BA at CSUN. And when she graduated high school, the same week she graduated high school, she graduated from Pierce Community College as well because she was already taking classes during high school.
35:56The same week? Same week, bro. Wow. So she went and did the two years at CSUN, graduated from there a couple months back, and now started at Pepperdine to get her master's. So I'm super proud of her, and I've been talking about her every day, man. Just like doing what we do and to be able to have your daughter like go all the way to that level and have that focus. Let's give it a round. You know what I'm saying? Fucking big deal. That's gangsta. I've seen a lot of kids in her position with parents like us that just lean on the parents. You know what I'm saying? I know most of the kids. Yeah, most of them.
36:34And that's like, that's not it. That's not it. Yeah, nigga. A lot of them. Y 'all hear us. Y 'all motherfuckers. Hey, Lee. Hey, Lee. I had an argument with my son. He's way more mature now. He graduated college too, thank God. But I remember he showed me one day, he said, Dad, you know who this is? And I really didn't know. It was a kid walking on the G4. It was Dr. Dre's son. He was like, real boss, his sons are moving. And I said, man, if you don't get the fuck up out my face, nigga, we are not Dr. Dre. you all Fat Joe on a Fat Joe salary motherfucker get out of here like yo like they can man even now so even now I'm a little older so when they book me for an after party or something the crowd in the club yo my man I'm the flyest old either you ever seen in your life I don't ever do that to you so I'm redefining the spectrum of fashion Lloyd's in London up.
37:37I don't get this shit fucked up. I know what I'm doing to them. I'm putting belt to that ass. The youth, they didn't be like, Dan OG. Anyway, sometimes I do the after party or whatever and it's mad young kids. Mad young kids. Yeah. 1920, 21, this and that. And they jumping on the couch, 100 bottles. They just spending their parents money. Right. There's just no fucking way they earned that money. Popping 100 bucks. Yo, bro, I was in Dubai like two, three weeks in a row. Shit. You know I see you out there. Yeah, I see you out there, for sure. Shout out to my dog, Money Kicks. Yeah, yeah. Assalamu alaikum, my brother.
38:20Bismillah. Bismillah. Bismillah. Ali Kishani. I am Ali Kishani. You know out there, I got a whole nother name. I'm Ali Kishani. Oh, fire. You know, I go to the mall. I drink me a little cup. You know, I don't really drink, so I drink a cup of coffee and Cipriani, and I just people watch. Yeah. And I tell a lot of jokes in my head. I don't tell the people. But anyway.
38:47I'm performing. I'm performing. They put you upstairs, and you look down. And the type of shit they... Yo, bro. Yo, they popping so many bottles. It's just not... there's no way they could drink it. Yeah. Even if you got a group of 10 guys, 10 girls, 200 bottles of Cristal, laced, spade, this, the shit is, and I'm looking over the thing, cause you know, I like to ball, but I'm like, I'm, you know, boss. Boss. No, no. I like, you know, I spend money. This is my problem. I have a problem. I spend money, but I'm looking at this shit. They like from UK. They bring flags out. midgets with fucking bottles this big, all type of shit.
39:36I'm looking at this shit. I'm like, yo, where the fuck is this Bitcoin? Bitcoin? Is this Bitcoin? Is this fucking... What the fuck are they doing out here, right? No, some shit, man. My homie Destructo, he a DJ in the house world or whatever. His son, 19 years old, this nigga just bought his first Porsche nigga, all that, off of crypto. Before that, he was selling sneakers and shit. Now legit, everything fully like balling on these niggas. That's why I have no excuse. I don't even take I don't even like let people try to like make excuses, bro. Because I see the 19 year old do it. It's like Yo bro, the levels.
40:19Yeah. The level, they looking like BMF in the club right now and this shit. You look at them as little kids and I'm just like they doing a lot. They doing too much. I hope they save a dollar one day. Because the shit they doing and they got this thing where and they go on the thing. Right? They got like a... Thing on the thing. No, no. They got like a teleprompter, right? And they be like, the UK boys is in the building. Fuck you, broke mother... Like, they could text. They having bottle wars in Dubai. Club Blue, I swear. Shout out to see it. And they like... See it. The guy who just bought the 40 bottles, he's like, fuck the other side.
40:57The UK... And then they come back. You can text it? Afghanistan say, suck my dick. 100 bottles. Like, yo, I'm looking at this shit. I'm sitting there. I'm trying to... Yo, bro, I'm trying to go home with a dollar. We used to do it like that. Yes! That stopped out here. Niggas stopped drinking champagne out here for real. Bottle wars. My family doesn't understand. Yeah. I'm trying to go home with a dollar. When I cross the border to a different territory, I'm trying to actually come back to pay the mortgage. Right. if I bring them they gonna blow the whole bag immediately, the minute it goes like this say we in the SLS hotel the minute wife is a bunk Atlantis suite of a lifetime four seasons, the whole floor, the whole shit change what restaurant, I could go to a fucking Shulama's place to go get some fucking Shulama, now it turns into Milos give me the table by the fucking water.
41:58Look, how about you guys don't come and I bring home a dollar. Then you can shop, do whatever you want to do. How about please don't come because I spend more than I'm going to make. Does this make sense? It's shit crazy out there. Right. They're doing the big in Dubai for sure. So your daughter, she got the diplomas. Pepper dying. Listen, that's all we could pray for is for our kids to be successful and do good in life. I mean, that's the American dream. And you're blessed, man. It's good. She level-headed because she's going for the Masters. She's sharp. And the guys, the guys is like, they want to date Tide Dollar's daughter?
42:49Hey, we ain't even getting this all out there. We ain't talking about that. Fuck all them little niggas, man. I'm just saying, yeah. I'm trying to tell you I'm trying to tell you boy I kill these motherfuckers out here man we got the tracker one day my daughter in the summer she was a little bit too much in Harlem I was like oh no what's going on this shit was like 3 in the morning I'm ready to put my clothes on I'm like yo the tracker's just Harlem it says Washington what the fuck is going on over you remember that calling going to Washington Heights going to Harlem, call her. She definitely had a long-time boyfriend, though.
43:29And, like, how I looked at it, because people would be like, oh, so what do you think about this? I was always like, bring him. Thank God. Always like, I'm not going to, like, reject it. I'm not going to, like, make her feel like she can't talk to me about it or make her feel, like, weird about it. You know what I'm saying? So I was always like this. I think I didn't understand it. What they was doing is you always got to, they always got to be able to talk to you. Yeah. before they seek somebody else to talk to. My sister hated me. She bring boys to the house. I had a bat right there, like a real fucking name.
44:00With my sister, this is how I was. I always scared off all of her boyfriends. Yes. But then with my daughter, I used to sit there with the bat, chase them home. All type of one sister. I don't think she was happy with me. Rest in peace. I know my sister. I don't think my sister was happy with me because I did too much, man. We was chasing all type Yo, you ever talk to my sister again, B? I'm telling you, like, right? And literally with the bat, while the dude is sitting there, she's sitting there, and I'm like, they playing Happy Days and shit like that. And I'm like, Sunday, Monday. Happy Days, and I got the baseball bat.
44:37Like, boy, I'm going to tell you. But the thing is, my daughter, I've been very respectful. Tuesday, Wednesday. Happy Day. I've been very respectful of whatever she's doing, very supportive. and it's hard. Sometimes every now and then when I get into it with the family, I just be like, look, guys, I'm doing some shit I never dreamed in my life that I would do. Like, I'm being so understanding. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, as a dad, you're just like, yo, I'm really being understanding. Like, please don't stop with me because I'm, you know, but it's, you know, it is. They say once the communication goes, it's over.
45:21and I feel like back then was a different way we was the world was and we was being taught we was taught to be that way and then now the way the world is it's like he's supposed to act this way you know be more not so judging not so this they switched it from this shit instilled in this they uninstilled it in the new generation yeah we gotta give him a round of applause for being a billboard power player fuck exactly thank you I mean he doing shit he's the biggest. We're not talking about that. Right, that's it. That's new. But there's a new thing. Billboard Power Play. He recognized us. Yeah.
45:58They recognized us, gave us an award, me, my brother Sean Barron, and Leon Thomas for our label. Easy money, man. Everything we've done this year. He's doing shit. He deserves it. Doing shit. Tycoon Vistores, October 17th. When is free TC documentary going out? That's coming out right after that. Okay. Make sure y 'all check out everything he drops. This is insane. Wait, you cut the interview? I feel like... No, no, we talking. Oh, you just... Before you keep going, no, I'm here to promote. You cutting them off too quick, man. You cutting them off? You ain't letting them promote, you over here.
46:40I'm a dog on my mutt. I'm a dog on my mutt. Leon Thomas, man. Come on. Yo, Todd Dollar, who you work with? that you possibly could. Because like I said, you hit so many generations with your style of music. Like right now, you just did Vultures where the young kids, they losing their sneakers jumping up and down to that shit. But at the same time, I told you I hear Jodeci, I hear Aaron Hall, I hear who you worked with that you was like, yo, this is unbelievable. I don't believe I got the chance to work in the studio with somebody like that? Ooh, it's a gang of people. I made a song with Mariah Carey before.
47:26MC. I made a song with Fat Joe before. Nah, nah, nah. Who else? Nah, nah, nah. Like a gang of, but Leon, like when it comes to now, meeting Leon and working with him was like, wow. That was the first time I said wow in a long time because it was, it just felt like me again, but on a whole nother level. Like he's fucking engineering, he's producing, he's writing, he's making beats for everybody else. He's writing songs for everybody else, just doing so much for everybody else. But at the same time, being incredible himself and nobody like really, oh, that shit's too soulful. It's too this, it's too that.
48:11I'm like, nah, this is it. You know what I mean? And Sean Barron agreed. We started the Easy Money label. And look, we put out the first album that had this song featuring me called Love Jones. And the album was cool. We were starting to get recognition, but there was no real hit off of that. And then you start getting the calls. Well, maybe Ty, you could give him one of those club songs. Or you could give him one of them da-da-da-da-da or something like that. And I actually hit him with it. And then like an hour later, it might have been a shorter time, but I called him back immediately. like my nigga.
48:44No, no, no, no, no. Fuck that. Stick to you. You know what the fuck you're doing. You don't need to try nothing else. Just do your shit. And look, man, we got a smash record with no sequencer. All live music. Live drums. Live bass. Live guitar. Live streams. Live everything. So, shout out to that, man. Stick to yourself. That's all you gotta do. Some of the artists you respect because we definitely have a different sound in R &B today than we have in the 90s. I feel like the 90s was the greatest time for R &B with one of the greatest. We're not going all the way back. In your age bracket, but because I'll be looking at like the 70s is the best R &B.
49:30Yeah, yeah. Might be right. Might be. I got a lowrider and all that shit, so I'm always like listening to the older shit. Your dad's era. But my point is now, what artists you think would make it down? I didn't even feel about R &B right now. I feel like it's about to do that again. When I went to the BMI Awards recently, they had a whole bunch of new artists performing. And everybody that performed with that motherfucker was incredible. Sounded like this time. Like young motherfuckers up there playing guitar, singing, going crazy, hitting all the crazy notes, captivating the crowd, making everybody stand up.
50:08I'm like, oh, it's time again, you know? And it's people that care. Anybody you haven't worked with that you want to work with? Shit, I want to work with Lady Gaga. I ain't never did a song with Lady Gaga. She's one of the greats. She's one of the greats, right? Yeah. You know, I'm a little bit off the weird shit now. You know what I'm saying? What you saying? Her shit weird? Nah, I'm not saying. She's a little weird, but she is definitely very, very talented. I'm not reframing her. Yeah, musically crazy. You know, like. Style-wise crazy. You see them now like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And all that shit.
50:40I'm like, yo, you know what? I'm a little bit off that. What? What?
50:47He said do that again. Artists acting with, like, and all that shit. All that shit. Can you give us an example? What is that? What is that? I don't know. Y 'all trying to jam me up. I can't say that because one of the biggest artists of today, but I watched her perform recently and I was just like, yo, you know what? I'm kind of off trying to act like all that shit. Like, that was cute maybe when Nicki Minaj started that. But just stop trying to act crazy. Like, just, you're very talented. Your music can speak for itself. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so, you know, some artists get caught up in that.
51:31Just like fashion, like just because you dress weird don't mean you fly. Yeah. Right? I've been seeing motherfuckers now just walking, looking weird, and they think they fly. It's like, no, dude, you're a fucking weirdo. That's not a goal. You understand what I'm saying? So I just feel like just doing too much necessarily. Somebody I respect very much in R &B right now is Kay Lonnie. I feel like she could have did it in the Brandy, Monica era. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for real music with substance. K-Ben doing her shit for a long time, and I'm happy to see her.
52:10Well, she got a number one record now, right? Or it's almost number one. It's top five for sure. I don't want to trust no more. I'm old school, V. I feel you on that, but like you said in the beginning, you looking for that supremacy, right? She finally get that supremacy. I get her voice, her tone, that music that folded, that this, that's Brandi. We had Brandi and Monica. Yeah. It's for sure she... Brandi did a remix of that. The Lox and Maudit. Yeah. Brandy Monica. You know, we had, oh, fucking 112. What is this? Numbers in the pocket. I don't have a reason. Like, we had some shit. Yeah. And the problem I have is, and it's the same problem with young hip hop, too.
52:57It's like, everybody ain't in it. He's still stuck. He's still stuck off that one. Everybody just want a one hit. everybody want a one hit they don't want that that real shit the last 10, 20 years and all that and that's been a problem with music lately especially with rap music I feel like yes like the wave yeah somebody said it the other day it's like what used to be it was like it was Saha Saha the Prince he was talking about back in the day he used to be the real rap niggas and he used to be the street niggas and then now the street niggas want to be the rap niggas and shit you mean the rap niggas and the street niggas like the street niggas from the street want to rap?
53:34Yeah. Man, I seen 50 y 'alls that don't really rap. Talk off the cliff. Yeah. 50 y 'alls, real niggas, bust they gun, put out a single. K Slate used to call me and be like, yo, get your mans in them. Now I'm talking about gangsters. Guys for 20 years in jail, real dudes, this, this, that. All of a sudden, put out a single or something. I'm like, yo, my man, they used to call me like the gangster police. Like, they would call me and be like, yo, Joe, talk to them. They don't want to lose the whole legacy. Like, imagine the scariest dude in Yonkers, all of a sudden, 54 years old, he want to drop a song.
54:11Bro, you should have did that shit at 20. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. This man said, I think it was Archimus said, yo, there is no age limit. True when you've been doing it a while. Don't come brand new 54, think a nigga going to be playing your shit. They not playing your shit. don't do that oh god this is not the profession for you to enter your time has passed you can't enter this shit oh no not 50 years old and all I'm like yo you know what I mean I swear to god my phone will ring rest in peace what is the latest age you can enter you can't do it you can't do it like for me for me right you started my shit didn't boom until I was 27 that's cool that's a great age there's a lot of niggas that's like that I don't care I think anyway Nah, some rappers I think 2 Chainz started late 2 Chainz 2 Chainz got one of the 2 Chainz's but he started early he just came back and popped later, yeah I watched Rick Ross walking around the club for 10 years straight trying to like get it right you understand what I'm saying?
55:22but I'm not saying that what I'm saying is it's two different things we talking about you know you got me excited when you said street niggas wanna rap my thing is alright a 22, 24, 25, 31-year-old street nigga, do not come with OG Bobby Wonson. Wonson. Bobby Wonson. Don't come with a nigga OG Bobby Johnson. Don't do it. Casey used to call me and be like, yo, Joe, the guard sucks and sucks from Queens. Gotta talk to your mans, Joe. Such and sucks from Brooklyn. These 50-year-old guys trying to act like them. Who is going to buy your music? Who is going to support that music? Please stop being delusional.
56:11It's one thing if you're OG, you mob deep, you fat, you're Jaded Kiss, you this, this, this, you've been doing this forever. You drop a project. We actually appreciate that. Yeah. Right? Every other genre could do it. They don't stop at a certain age. We could do it. Slick Rick dropped the album. I'm buying. everybody I'm buying but don't come brand new 62 nah and they do it the problem is I'm bringing it to attention because they do it they come out and they be like yo that's somebody's dream I don't give a fuck do you realize that though another thing is if you're sleeping on your girlfriend's couch that don't mean you can't make a hit you got four kids she's working you can't make a hit she got four kids that's his She's working.
56:58You're sleeping on your girl's couch. You got four kids. She's working every day. You playing 2K. You got four kids. Bro, this is what I'm trying to tell you. These guys are telling these girls they're rappers. They're telling them they're rappers. They don't have a show. Look, if you don't ask somebody downloading your shit besides your family and friends, if you don't have a show, if no one even knows you exist but yourself and your crew, you, my friend, are not a rapper. You are not a success. This is not your profession. Seek a job. Seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom. Get a job. Do something because the girl know by now.
57:42There's some ladies here. Would you know if the guy's 42, sleeping on your couch, playing 2K, talking about he's some sort of rapper? You know by now that he full of shit, right? You might love him because you love him, but he's not for real. There's something wrong with the lady. 30-year-old models that ain't ever been on no cover. Link in the body. They might be bad women. Yo, they might be bad women. I disagree with that. They might be bad. You might be a baddie, but you ain't no model. She was a model for a year and a half. Let that hair drop down to her ass. Listen, let me tell you something.
58:17I disagree with that one. You could be any kind of model. The guy on the couch that doesn't have a job, who's using the fact that he's some type of rapper because he snuck in the studio and cut a demo? You're not really a rapper. I also have a problem. Damn, this turned into what's your problem, Fat Joe? My problem is everybody who either shoots or gets killed on the news, somehow they're a rapper. Rapper Johnny Z shot the place. Just like, yo, bro, where did he rap? It's no longer... Your man J. Cole put it in the verse. He was like, yo, every time my little buddy rap, I listen to his shit after he got killed.
59:04Like, yo, bro. Like, what is the quality? Nothing. Everything, man. I don't know what to tell you, man. Everything is like, you don't have to be qualified no more. It used to be you had to get respect. You know, somebody came to you and said, yo, Todd Dollar, you nice. And then you started rapping with the big boys. You rapping. You can just upload your own music and celebrate your own life. I'm looking. It's dumbed down for sure. You wanted to be a singer? A little bit. I wanted to be a singer. If I could have traded my rap career to be like Newton Van Jaws. No, he was a rapper. What would have been your R &B name?
59:43It wouldn't have been no Joey Crack. Yo, listen, I'd have been on some bullshit, though. I'd have been giving the whole audience roses and shit, all type of shit. Like, I'd have been on support. I mean, you know, singing to me is just different. I guess rap is rap, but to me, singing, to me, is more beautiful. You know, whether it's in English or Spanish. Spanish, they got salsa music, one of the most beautiful musics in the world. You know what I'm saying? So it's the same thing with English. Like, man, I love that shit. Tycoon, man. 1017, Free TC. Slightly after that, let's make some noise for our brother.
1:00:22Todd Dollar Sign. We love you. Don't doubt. Let's toast. Toast it up. You thought you could have said that one. This that line. Your smile. Your body. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's Cracking Kiss. It's another one, baby. Dollar Sign. Hold up. One thing I got to ask. I know we rap, but your relationship with Hitmaker. Yeah. Tell us a little something about that because I feel like he can get Todd Dollar. He can wake you up in your sleep. How did that relationship become so tight between you and him? It took a long time because he's my Eskimo brother.
1:01:12It took a long time to start because I used to not fuck with him at first because that nigga was hitting one of my bitches. But Oh, that's what Eskimo Rocks mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like y 'all know the same young ladies? Yeah, yeah. Dang. But then once I grew up and got mature, I realized that, especially in this industry, that happens so much. You know what I'm saying? Your body! Right. I mean, I'm a place we go. And then it was just like, damn, nigga, if we would have been working since back then, we would have had so many hits. You feel me? That nigga's like talented. He really like knows. He knows hit men.
1:01:50how to get to the hits. So we work all the time. Every time I stop in Miami, I'm pulling up on him. Yeah, man, I had to ask you that because that's my go-to for Todd Dollar. With Todd Dollar, he disappears sometimes, guy. I can't believe it. You get a lot of money. He got 12 people with you. I ain't know I got 12 people number to get in touch with you. I got to call Hitman. Hitman, the man ain't calling me back, man. He told me he might be sleeping, Joe. Don't worry, I go get him. I'm going to find him. But shout out to the Hitman. We need him on the show. He just called me. He want to come next week.
1:02:23Yo, Jada, who you talking to? Like, you talking to me? He told you. Yo, who you think you're talking to? Yo, this morning. I can't speak to him. This morning, I put on the TV. And I see Allen Iverson, Bubba Chuck, all over. He's promoting some book. I called Jada. I said, yo, Jada. He called me already. I'm in New York. I'm watching. yeah got off the phone with him last night he called me already yo what the fuck why he ain't on the couch like yo what are you the same reason he ain't on the couch when you found out he was in New York he's ducking us he's ducking us but you know we need hit maker on there you know what I'm saying but we appreciate you child dollar I personally appreciate you for everything you've done for me you really really helped me out BTC Free TC.
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From the publisher
Fat Joe and Jadakiss welcome one of the most celebrated voices in R&B hip hop to the blue couch as Ty Dolla $ign joins Joe and Jada ahead of his upcoming 'Tycoon' album, which comes out this Friday, October 17th. Ty breaks down his single "SMILE BODY PRETTY FACE" featuring Kodak Black and YG, his famous collaborations with Kanye West on the 'Vultures' albums, working with Mariah Carey on "The Distance," signing "MUTT" singer Leon Thomas to his record label EZMNY Records, meeting Prince in his youth, and explains why the artist he wants to work with the most is Lady Gaga.
6:30 - First solo project since 2020: 'Tycoon' out Oct. 17th
9:15 - Owning his own label
11:30 - Kanye West & 'Vultures' era
19:00 - Working w/ Kodak Black & YG on "SMILE BODY PRETTY FACE"
21:15 - Screening his documentary at Tribeca Film Festival
33:45 - Being a girl dad & hilarious parenting talk
36:30 - They're going CRAZY over in Dubai
45:00 - Working with Mariah Carey
47:30 - What was the best R&B era? + Wanting to work with Lady Gaga
51:15 - Fat Joe's biggest problem with hip hop right now
59:15 - Collaborating with Hitmaka
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