In short
“We’ll see if exposure therapy can reduce Alex Brooker’s Christmas obsession.” The host sets up a springtime “Christmas intervention” in a Santa-themed office, then runs Alex through “ghosts” of Christmas past, present, and future, ending with a “shittiest Christmas” prompt game to balance his view.
Guest backgrounds
Alex Brooker is a British comedian/presenter and long-running host on Channel 4’s The Last Leg. He’s also a Soccer Aid participant and UNICEF UK ambassador. He’s disabled (describes himself as “professional disabled”) and has spoken about therapy and becoming more comfortable with disability.
Key claims
His Christmas love began with his mum’s decorating; he’s “all right” about Christmas but is “obsessed.” The show reframes his obsession as partly learned and partly emotional. He’s more excited for Soccer Aid than Christmas during that period.
Notable examples
stealing a Gordon Banks-signed football; an iron signed by Daniel Stern (Home Alone) kept in cling film; crying at Bluey (Sleepytime); Arsenal-themed “Christmas present” ghost; Nerf gun “Christmas ruined”; shittiest items include bread sauce, crackers, and “Mistletoe and Wine.”
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOChristmas in April
2:26 to 4:42
Joe and Jake discuss their comical preparations for a Christmas-themed session.
“Joe and Jake are coming Joe and Jake are coming Joe and Jake are coming And always doing podcasts Woo!”
The Christmas Obsession
4:42 to 6:04
Joe and Jake explore the topic of Christmas and its effects on patients.
“Whenever you need anything elf-like being done.”
Introducing Alex Brooker
6:04 to 7:28
Joe introduces guest Alex Brooker and their previous connections.
“You may know him from being a hero of Soccer Aid.”
Alex Brooker's Christmas Experience
7:28 to 10:40
Alex shares his thoughts on Christmas and his past experiences.
“She's out there with a bottle of Lucasite, just for...”
Emotional Moments and Reflections
10:40 to 14:01
Alex recounts emotional moments from his life and the significance of Christmas.
“I don't want to put down the therapy, but this is just making me even more excited for Christmas.”
Emotional Moments: The Last Time I Cried
14:01 to 16:42
The hosts discuss emotional experiences, revealing surprising moments of vulnerability.
“And I asked him when was the last time he cried.”
The Magic of Christmas Memories
16:42 to 18:09
Alex shares his fondest Christmas memories shaped by his family's traditions.
“Sorry, thank you, ghost of Christmas past.”
Christmas Presents: The Good and the Bad
18:09 to 19:19
The conversation shifts to discussing both cherished and disappointing Christmas gifts.
“So we did get Game Boys at the same time, but generally it was on Christmas where we both got keyboards.”
Performing Music from the Past
19:20 to 20:13
Alex and Joe engage with a keyboard present and reminisce about musical experiences.
“in terms of reactions to that haven't you yeah yeah of course sure would you like to open your present though thank you very much Ghost of Christmas past brought...”
Christmas Present: Today’s Traditions
23:44 to 27:25
Discussion on current Christmas traditions and personal anecdotes about the holiday.
“How can you tell it's Christmas present?”
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Reflections on Career and Growth
27:25 to 28:00
Alex reflects on his career journey and the unexpected paths he's taken.
“I have had the biggest, like, I've managed to kind of manufacture, like, getting to do all these, like, different, I've done so many things that I love doing but obviously that's all come from doing the last thing.”
Alex Brooker's Journey to Comedy
28:00 to 28:58
Explore Alex Brooker's unexpected path from journalism to comedy and television.
“you're not going to be the football reporter anymore we want you to do this show and I was What am I meant to do on there?”
Confronting Disability and Identity
28:58 to 31:16
Alex discusses his experiences with disability and how it shaped his identity.
“Because even when I go to the hospital, you see people briefly, even when I get my legs, it's always kind of like mainly elderly people.”
Revisiting Paralympic Dreams
31:16 to 32:52
Reflecting on Alex's talent in rifle shooting and the decision to quit the team.
“Well, let's actually put your sharp shooting skills to the test, shall we?”
Excitement for Soccer Aid
32:52 to 39:50
Anticipation builds as Alex shares his excitement for participating in Soccer Aid.
“when the Paralympics rifle shooting ticked.”
Christmas Traditions and Humor
39:50 to 42:00
A humorous discussion on the worst parts of Christmas traditions and songs.
“My angle is going to be seeing you get so excited about Soccerade clearly means that you can think past Christmas.”
Humor in Christmas Traditions
42:00 to 44:22
Explore humorous takes on Christmas traditions and songs.
“Like, genuinely, if Charles starts this year and goes, Fuck me, it's been a tough old one, innit?”
Reflections on Christmas Positivity and Negativity
44:22 to 45:42
Discuss the balance of positive and negative aspects of Christmas.
“Right, Alex, that is the end of our session today.”
Reflections on Christmas Positivity and Negativity
46:05 to 47:02
Discuss the balance of positive and negative aspects of Christmas.
“Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today.”
Reflections on Christmas Positivity and Negativity
47:07 to 47:29
Discuss the balance of positive and negative aspects of Christmas.
“1-800-CONTACTS Daydreaming about Fiore's soft dream knit fabric?”
Transcript
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1:31What? So you, apparently, love it. Yeah, I'm all right about it. Yeah, I don't mind it. Fucking elf. One thing we didn't want it to say. You might as well have been an elf, mate. His is movie quality, mine is more sort of fake taxi quality. Half the room got the reference. What did you say your occupation is? Professional disabled. I've turned these little buggers and this bastard into a career. He's done with disability what you've done with the traitors. Milked it.
2:00Hello, welcome to my office. This is Joe Marla Will See You Now with me, Dr. Joe Marla. This is the show where I take a torch into the minds of Britain's favourite celebrities, shine a light around and see if I can help them find their way. With me as always is my trusty research assistant, Jake. Jake, why am I talking like this? Joe and Jake are coming. Joe and Jake are coming. Joe and Jake are coming. Joe and Jake are coming Joe and Jake are coming Joe and Jake are coming And always doing podcasts Woo! It's Christmas, motherfucker. Sorry. I don't know where that came from. I've never said motherfucker ever.
2:43It's Christmas, brother. Wow! It is not Christmas. It's fucking March. Slash, depending on when this goes out, April. It's fucking April. Quick contingency plan. It's fucking May. It's fucking May. I think one thing we can all agree on, it is spring. It really is. And I mean that, I do. But sometimes you need to go to extreme lengths to help our patients out, right? Yeah. And this guy is obsessed with Christmas. So I think what we want to do is just hammer it home, put him face to face with the reality of the kitschness of a Christmas in the middle of spring and see how he deals with it. Why are you dressed as Santa?
3:27I thought I was Santa. You are Santa. Yeah. Because I have the movie quality outfit. Yeah, and obviously, you know, you're the host. And the voice. You're the host. And the rotundness. Yeah. Yes. You were meant to be the fucking elf. I thought you were going to be the elf. And I did think to myself, that's weird that you're going to be the elf. Why would I be the elf? I don't know. That's why I thought it would be weird if you would be the elf. Unless you got confused that we were doing the film elf. In which you'd be main character. I would be the human, wouldn't I? Yeah. I would be soon to be there.
3:55Oh, I should really be there. I've just worn what was out the back of the office. Well, have you got... Maybe take it off. What have you got underneath? No, you've got nothing underneath. Oh, fuck. Put it back on now. Wait, are you wearing something underneath yours? Of course. I need something to, like, sop it up. Whose costume is it? I've gone fully nude underneath this. I think it's Janet's ex-husband's. Oh, my God. I'm wearing Janet. I'm naked in Janet's... He died in that. He died in this? Yeah. Janet's ex-husband died in this and I'm wearing it. Has it been washed? Does she know you've got that?
4:29Well, she was the one who said, oh, pop this on, it'd be fine. What? She said she had a lot of good times in this. But if he was wearing... Oh. That's the point. Okay, so we've cocked up on who's meant... We haven't got an elf, have we? We've got two Santas. I'll always be your elf, though. Whenever you need anything elf-like being done. For example, I was a bit elfish earlier and I've done the office up. As you can see, your lovely skeleton He's got a lovely hat on. We've got the lovely Christmas tree. And who's on the top of the Christmas tree? Michael Ball. There's a tree I can see. It can only mean one thing.
5:06It's Christmas time for the world to see. Just Christmas time for you, for me. And me.
5:17Michael Ball, he's knocking about. We've got tinsel, we've got lights. Honestly, it looks beautiful in here. It's going to be an absolute sort of attack to the senses for our patient when they come in. Do you like Christmas then? No. Why? Worst time of the year. Worst? Yeah, like worst. You've got a movie-quality Santa's outfit on and you don't like Christmas? No. Why have you got that then? Because I've got four kids. Okay. Can't poison them that early, can I? Oh, God. Do you know what I mean? I'm a piece of shit, but I'm not that big a piece of shit. Do you know what I mean? It's like I put a lot of effort into Christmas for them.
5:51Oh, that's beautiful. Because I love them. So you're really going above and beyond as a doctor for the sake of your patient today, which I think is amazing. Well, that's what we're here to do, isn't it? Who we got? You may know him from a long-running late-night comedy show. You may know him from being a hero of Soccer Aid. You may know him from generally just being a very funny bloke. It hasn't helped with the narrowing. It didn't help, yeah, yeah. I thought the next clue would have been like... I know, I know. I should have nailed it there. Maybe start with that one. It is Alex Brooker. Huge.
6:27Yeah. You've met him before. Yeah, I did last leg with him. Yeah. Do you like him? Do you get on? Yeah. You've met him before, have you? Well, do you know what? Before you were my boss, he was my boss. I'm not your boss. You are my boss. There's no hierarchy here. Then why do I ask you if I can go to the toilet or not? Okay, there's a small hierarchy here. Yeah. Do you need to go now? No, I'm all right now. Okay. But what is weird is that in no other workplace have I ever had to ask that. Okay, fine. Alex Brooker is in the doctor's waiting room with Janet. Shall we let him in? Yeah, I think so.
7:00Hello, Janet. Merry Christmas. Yeah, did you get my card? What about the mince pie left in your drawer? Good, good. Okay, can you bring Alex Brooker in, please? Thank you. Bye-bye.
7:20Alex Brooker, everybody! Oh, look at this! Hello! Look at this is... Usually I would get up and say hello, but you've been a naughty little boy, haven't you? Oh, this is wonderful! Yes. Christmas! Love it! Welcome to my grotto. Thank you very much. I think Janet might be a bit hungover. She's out there with a bottle of Lucasite, just for... I don't like to be a grass. Okay, I will make note of that. Thank you, Alice. Look at this, you've got... This is a great outfit. Oh, look at those. This is movie quality. It is movie. Jake's not. Yes, this is assistant Jake. Mine's more movie quality. He might as well have been an elf, mate.
8:00Here's his movie quality. Mine's more sort of fake taxi quality. Sort of the different levels we've got there. Half the room got the reference. Disgusting. Yeah. But yeah, he's a high production value. I laughed too much at that, didn't I? But I will say, though, we would never have dressed up in such hot costumes in the middle of spring if it wasn't for someone that we adore as much as we adore you. Oh, thank you very much. Didn't just dress up for Widdecombe, did you? No, fuck no. 90s people. You weren't doing a Roman necklace. Fuck no, no, no. They're all cancelled. So, Alex. Yes? Are you going to do this?
8:36I don't think I can. Keep the voice going, Joey. I will try. Oh, look, you've got such depth. Yeah. You're great, Santa. Anyway, how are you? Pretty good. Good. I'm very, I'm loving this. I like the... I like warm white as well. Warm white's a good... A good colour scheme. I sort of thought... You might ask why we've gone to this effort to make it Christmassy. But actually, you've just thought... I'm at home. I'll chuck Christmas lights straight away. Yeah, I just... To me, this doesn't feel out of the ordinary. I don't know why. It would have been a winner if it didn't have this. We should probably explain why we've gone to this effort.
9:13I fucking hate Christmas. What? For me to be sat here in a movie-quality Christmas outfit... Yeah, okay. And having all this done to my office has basically been forced upon me. Oh, okay. All because you, apparently, love it. You're obsessed with Christmas. Yeah, I'm all right about it. Yeah, I don't mind it. Fucking hell. It's the one thing we didn't want it to say. No, I love it. I absolutely, I do. And I appreciate the fact that you've done that for me, though. Well, we've done it with something in mind. Okay. Because we're thinking, and we might delve into it more, well, we will delve into it more, that potentially we want to borrow some ideas from exposure therapy to maybe come face to face with what makes you so obsessed with Christmas?
9:54Now, exposure therapy is something I do know a lot about. Okay. I first started smoking when I was 12. Okay. I got a packet of Golden Virginia. Yeah. And then we were like, okay, what do we do with these? And then it was like, oh, I've seen them roll them up and stuff. But we couldn't find any papers. But we did have Juicy Fruits. Remember when they were the long sticks of chewing gum? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got Juicy Fruit wrappers, the yellow bit, and wrapped that up and then we're just smoking that away. Yeah. And then my dad found out and he was like, right, you smoke, do you? Yeah, yeah, okay.
10:23Yeah. And what? So my dad exposed me. Okay. Oh, like that sort of thing where it's like, go and smoke. Yeah, he said, smoke 20 of these all at once. So you're exposing to me as like you and Jake like dressed as Santa to make me not like Santa, but so far, I bloody love it even more. I don't want to put down the therapy, but this is just making me even more excited for Christmas. It's March. Just to make you a little bit more balanced. Yeah, okay. Now, the first thing we ask every guest, client or patient to do is take part in an intake questionnaire. I can't hold this post for much longer, so yeah, let's go for it.
11:02Give me the questions. Full name. Alexander James Brooker. Star sign. Taurus. Really? Yeah. Like the bull? Yeah, I think I've got like the fat head. What do you say your occupation is? professional disabled
11:22I've turned these little buggers and this bastard into a career so that is I'd say that makes me a professional one of us he's done with disability what you've done with the traitors
11:35milked it it's a weird I've been known as medic so I was I've been coming to tell you I was a journalist and then like comedian I also work in comedy, but I've never done a tour. So I don't really think you can call yourself that. So is it like a presenter? Is that what you're calling about? Sounds crap. That's generic. I don't think that's true. Just because you've never toured, that doesn't mean you're not a comedian. You make people laugh every week on the telly. That's being a comedian. Thank you. Every week. Thank you, mate. You've not watched Last Week for a while, but yeah, thank you. Now, Alex.
12:06Okay. Tell me something that you've done that might get you on my naughty list. My dad had a football that was signed by Gordon Banks as the England goalkeeper in 1966. Very famous, probably one of the greatest ever goalkeepers. And I remember taking it out of a cabinet because me and my mates had lost our football and it was signed by him and playing with it on the street and scuffing it all up and then just putting it back. And still to this day now, it always, because I wasn't even really that into football when I nicked it either. and now I'm like, that was out of order. Because now I've got memorabilia of my own.
12:47I always think, oh, if my kids nicked my iron that's signed by Marv from Home Alone and started playing Dress Up with it and I'd wipe the signature off it, I'd be livid. You've got what from Home Alone? So I've got an iron that's signed by Daniel Stern who played Marv in Home Alone. I got him to sign it. I met him, did a show with him, interviewed him for this Sky show about four years ago and I wanted him to sign something. So obviously he gets it in the head with the iron, so I got him to sign the iron. But the producer sprayed it with hairspray to make sure it didn't smudge and then we wrapped it in cling film.
13:22It's still in the cling film in my house. Have you got a Ghostbusters pack as well? Yeah, I've got a Ghostbusters backpack. Yeah. Hang on, what the works? Well, it doesn't fire exact lasers out, but if you do it, so it's got like inside the smoke thing of it, it's a vape in there, like a vape thing that smells of marshmallow. How long is your list of obsessions? Christmas, Ghostbusters... Boy bands. Boy bands. Football. Fucking hell. Football. Home alone. Wow. Like, that comes under... Does that come under Christmas or is it an offshoot? That's a good point, actually. We had your mate Josh Widdicombe in for a session.
13:55Yeah, he's another one of my obsessions.
14:01And I asked him when was the last time he cried. Yeah. And I'll ask you the same. When was the last time you cried? Oh, no, I cried the other week. I cried about two weeks ago. I was at Arsenal, and I don't know if you saw it. Max Downman, he scored the winning goal against heaven and thought we were going to mess it up. And it was such an emotional moment, not because he's like 16, but it just overwhelmed me. So I genuinely had tears in my eyes, but I cry at everything. I've cried at episodes of Bluey. There's an episode of Bluey called Sleepy Time. Sorry, Alex. What are you laughing at? Sorry.
14:36sorry fuck you laughing at then sometimes I forget I'm not watching TV and that I'm in the room I'm really sorry yeah I'm really sorry do you know how do you know how powerful Bluey can be mate how powerful well powerful enough to make a man cry yeah fair enough especially an episode that's got no no speech or sounding what was happening in the episode the water yes and they fix it it's beautiful and there's not a single word said in it you know the episode sleepy time so it's when Bingo goes into the bed on her own for the first time and it plays the mute it's like I can't remember it's like the planets I can't remember it's like she's like having a dream and she's going towards earth and it's her first night in her own bed oh I'm going to tear up that gets me I cry all the time I think it's good though I like I cry as you can see a real range of things yeah would you cry would you be nice if you would cry on ours no I'd never cry in front of you 100 % I couldn't think of anything worse than like you being the thing that I look at.
15:38I was not thinking of anything better.
15:42Okay, Alex. Let's begin with finding out where this obsession for Christmas came from. Oh! Oh my gosh. Whoa. Goodness. Alex Brooker. We forgot. Oh, and it goes again. Someone's pressed play on the thunder twice in the row. It is. Look at that. All right. New picky blinded movie's out. Coming to a Netflix near you. So we forgot to mention, right, that as part of this journey to wean you off of Christmas, you're going to be visited by three ghosts, all played by Ryan. All right, Ryan. So we're going to do the opposite of what happened to Scrooge on that fateful day in Dickensian Britain. All right.
16:30So this is the ghost of Christmas past. Didn't do the thunder that time, that's fine. The ghost of Christmas past! And he's got a present for you. Oh, thank you. Where could he be taking you back to? Thank you, Ryan. Cheers, mate. No, no. Ghost of Christmas past. Sorry, thank you, ghost of Christmas past. Be gone, ghost! I was just looking at those changes going, I'd get out of them in a second. Straight out of them. Straight out. No problems. Straight out. Peace, peace. Anyway. Right, so where did the love begin? What are some of your happiest memories of Christmas growing up? Josh Winnick has always said, as long as he's known me, that one day I'm going to find out that something really bad happened to me.
17:14Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. And it's like, here's the sort of thing you go, I know that's not when my foot was amputated or anything like that. That's not. Yeah. You know, it's not. I don't know. I think my mum, like, Christmas was always big in our house. And my mum was, like, big into the decorating. so like right from a young age it was uh yeah she was like banging to it um and i probably think that's where that's where i get it from is just all of the yeah we had everything you know remember those like kind of those leery kind of decorations that hang from the ceiling yeah they're like the kind of foil ones flammable as fuck yeah but it was like that sort of those memories of that and the lights and multicolored lights and all that that so i suppose that that must be where it come from because i've always i've always loved christmas and even like when i went to my foot like went to uni i was like right let's decorate the flat that's like you know and when i've got my own places i've always been like let's go big on decorations like so yeah what about bad christmases ever had a bad christmas yeah i had a few yeah oh we got so because i've got i've got uh five brothers my my brother ashley is like 11 months younger than me so me and me and ashley used to get the same sort of presents.
18:33So we didn't argue. So we did get Game Boys at the same time, but generally it was on Christmas where we both got keyboards. Right. Interesting. Which is obviously, look, with the best one in the world, bear in mind he had the full complement of digits. He was getting more out of than me. So I remember Christmas Day, I was setting him up and he was trying to follow the little music book and then I just kept pressing the demo and it kept I'll never forget the song that the demo played was Wake Me Up Before You Go Go which is jaunty not very Christmassy but I just used to pretend and that was like what a waste of a fucking present but but that was you've grown past that annoyance like if someone was to buy that gift for you again or Santa was to re-gift you that again you've obviously grown a lot in terms of reactions to that haven't you yeah yeah of course sure would you like to open your present though thank you very much Ghost of Christmas past brought...
19:29Oh. Ah. Ah. Oh, wow. Right. Sure. Oh, wow. Okay. Where's the demo button? Thoughts? What are your thoughts on it so far? Just from the... It's very triggering. Oh, right. Okay. Remember you? Actually, I might bloody cry. Get another couple of mil views. Hope so. If it gets less than Widdicombe, I'll be livid.
20:07There you go. That's the only thing I ever knew how to play. There you go. Mind if I give it a go? Yeah, go on, here we go. Shut up. Go on, here we go. Now, I know you mentioned earlier, actually, obsession with different things, ghostbusters, Yeah. Gordon Banks' hands. All that lot. Anyone's bloody hands, man.
20:38Fuck.
20:45I love it. Really, really excellent. But you also mentioned boy bands. Yes. Oh, my God. Can you play boy bands? Yes, I am talking about boy bands. Okay. One boy band in particular. Go on. Synonymous with Christmas. Oh, are you going to play Stand of Day? Ready? Oh my God.
21:08You can pretend to play it, Joe. I mean... This is literally... This is like a... Right, so for the... This is like, if we did a film of my life, this is genuinely what I was like. he's like he's like a really fucked up for the audio listener the plan was right that we're going to have the keyboard and Joe is going to learn how to play stay another day producer Tom taught him how to do it it's three notes done in a different order three notes we spent some time teaching it to Joe he said you just record it and we'll press play and I'll pretend to do it we've got to the moment he's unwrapped the present we've had a fucking ghost come in all leading to this moment for you to press play and pretend to play the keyboard and you press play just stay at him he's looked him in the eye Gormously Hands not even close to the keyboard No illusion that you're playing it at all You just press play What comes I called in It's a man after my own heart though That's all I did I love it What are we achieving?
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23:44That was Christmas past. Yes. Let's move on to Christmas present. Present. Yeah. Oh my gosh! Another ghost! Oh wow. Same hat, different ghost. Which is not a stain. Look at this. It's the ghost of Christmas present. How can you tell it's Christmas present? Because? It's got this season's Arsenal shirt on. This season's Arsenal shirt on. Yeah. So this is the ghost of Christmas present, and we're now gonna try and help you face how your current phase of life is being affected by this obsession with Christmas, and we've got another present for you. Thank you very much. Wow. Give it up for the ghost Christmas present, everybody.
24:25Cheers. Cheers, mate. Thank you, ghost. Be gone. Very good. Be gone, ghost. Be gone. Be gone. Now, everyone is very particular about how they do Christmas. Yeah. Talk me through your perfect Christmas day. Are you up at the crack of dawn? Do you know what? Our daughters, they don't get up too early. They don't. Get up, we watch, we do the presents early doors, have a little bit of Buck's Fizz. Still enjoy that. I've moved on from the pre-mixed to make it myself now. And for the audio listener, he winked at me at pre-mixed. Moved on to the pre-mixed. What about the night before? Night before. Are you going to go do the mass?
25:06No. You don't do any of the mass? No, I don't go to mass. Pub? Do you go pub night before? Yeah, I have been, yeah, last few years, go in early afternoon, just have a couple. Yeah. I missed a few years ago, I had a few too many down there and yeah, it was pretty drunk by the evening. You've got family around, it's not good. It's not ideal, is it? It's not good. Also, you don't want to be hung over Christmas Day. When I was younger, we used to go out big. Christmas Eve was massive. Yeah, like when I was probably like 18, 19, massive night. I loved Christmas. They were some of the best nights. Christmas Eve on the piss.
25:43When you go out and they play Christmas music, there's nothing better. I went to Bruges to see Arsenal just before Christmas. In France.
25:53And it was getting a little bit leery in this bar. And I sat around to the kids and I was like, I promise you now, mate, if you play all I want for Christmas, this place is going to go off. And you had people just going, Arsenal, Arsenal. And it's a bit much. And all of a sudden, you just hear the ding, ding, ding. And everyone was like, yeah! And I was like, fucking told you, didn't I? Told you. I told you, and it was like... You mentioned the last leg. I had the pleasure of joining you last year's... New Year's. New Year's. So the festive period was still underway. Do you count that? You do still count that as the festive period?
26:25Yeah, also because, yeah, obviously someone showed up pre-record, didn't we? So it's the... Don't give it away. That's fine, mate. But you've been doing the last leg for how long now? 15 years. 15 years. 15... No, 14 years this year. 14. Fucking hell. 14 years in September or August, yeah. That is wild, is it? Yeah, it is. What would your younger self have said about the career that you've now had? And I know we joked at the start in the intake questionnaire and you go, professional disability, sports journal, all this lot for you. Yeah. But you've had a mega career for the last fucking 14 years.
27:00I've had a touch. It is. I have. My mate said to me a little while ago, he said, genuinely, when we're at university, if you'd have said to me, what's all Brooker's dream? What's his dreams? and it would be like, meet the Ghostbusters and I met them. So, meet Thierry Henry and I'm like, I've met, and like, he follows me. It's like, go to the Home Alone house and I've got to do that for work and like, obviously things like soccer aid and like, I have had the biggest, like, I've managed to kind of manufacture, like, getting to do all these, like, different, I've done so many things that I love doing but obviously that's all come from doing the last thing.
27:36God beware, I was given a nine-day contract and I was meant to be behind camera so I was meant to be a reporter so I wasn't even meant to be seen on camera and they just put me on the first last leg to show that I was going to be the reporter who'd be out and about later on in the week so I was on with Hills the first part of the very first last leg at the Paralympics in 2012 then I come off and then Josh comes on um and then the next day they called me in and they were like you're not going to be the football reporter anymore we want you to do this show and I was What am I meant to do on there?
28:09No, like, just sit there every night. But before The Last Leg, obviously you were a reporter, but did you think about being a comedian? Did you think about being a TV presenter? Did you think about any of that? I didn't think about any of it. You've got to be in mind, when, I mean, I did a television journalism module as part of my journalism degree, and I remember the assessment because she said that my voice was too common for broadcast. What? Yeah, I remember. I was like, oh, well, yeah. That was a scouser that said that as well, which is like, I love... I love Liverpool it's the greatest city on earth but I was like come on mate let's have a little have a word of yourself it's like you're telling me that like I thought regional dialects were in and so yeah I was I would never had any ideas any designs on on television even when I applied for Channel 4 when I did the YouTube video you had to upload a YouTube video what you do three minutes of Channel 4 airtime and I remember Lee I saw the advert and it was like do you have a background in the media and I was like yeah are you disabled I was like yeah and I was like do you have a background in Paralympic sport and I'd actually been on the development squad for the rifle shooting to go to the Paralympics what reporting on it no so I reported at an open day where they were trying to find athletes for London 2012 and as part of it obviously because I met the criteria I was allowed to try different sports yeah and I tried rifle shooting it's the best I've ever been at anything straight away and they stuck me straight in the squad and then I quit what yeah and this is This is going to sound like quite deep and quite bleak, but I'd never been around other disabled people until like March 2010.
29:44Because even when I go to the hospital, you see people briefly, even when I get my legs, it's always kind of like mainly elderly people. So I'd never been around other disabled people. All my mates, I was like the only one. And then all of a sudden, I was thrown into this world. It was just about being willing, which is ironic given a career I pursued. But it was all about being disabled. I couldn't cope with it. So I quit the team. Had like eight weeks of therapy. I remember the geezer going to me at the end of it. I was like, I feel loads better. And he went, look, Miss Brooke, I really think you need a lot of this.
30:15I was like, yeah. And he was like, no, genuinely, if you can carry on, I really think you should. He was like, you need to talk about this a lot more. But the mad thing is, I kind of have. I've talked about it. I've become more comfortable. People go, I joke now, but I wasn't always like that. No way. like my mates would be like yeah I used to have like a laugh a bit but not like because I wasn't as comfortable in my own skin I was more self-conscious and now I'm like I'm as comfortable as I ever will be I'd assume I don't why did that change then how did you become do you know what it was it was genuinely no word of I've almost done 14 years of a slightly messed up therapy talking about being like I am on a sofa but it's on live telly so you can't help but kind of it just changed like a load I always said to the boys and it was 10 years of last I remember saying to them there's a lot of people obviously it's a job and we've had amazing careers out of it all three of us but for me it's probably had a massive impact because it changed how I viewed myself just from doing this one job because honestly it's had a really I can say that it's life changing don't give me what it has been then also it's life changing in the fact that I've changed how I view myself and I suppose that is the biggest thing you can't probably get any more wouldn't have minded your bathroom in there but it is what it is but I've been very very lucky you mentioned about giving up on the squad the chance of the Paralympics but you also said you were fucking mustard I never big myself up about anything but I was I can honestly say it's naturally the best I've ever been at any single one thing.
32:07Well, let's actually put your sharp shooting skills to the test, shall we? Okay. I need to open the present that Christmas present brought you. Oh! Oh, yes, baby.
32:22Oh, yeah. Is this loaded? For the audio, Alyssa, Alex Brooker has unwrapped a massive Nerf gun, and it's pointed at my face. Right, I think we need to really put this to the test, don't we? Yeah. Why don't we use Jake? Two of my worst bosses of all time in one room. I've been employed by both of these fuckers. Jake, could you put the cuff on the top of your head, please, mate? Yeah, OK. Here we go. Do you know what? I'm going to put these on as well. You're putting goggles on? Yeah, yeah. Why? It's a rubber bullet, mate. He's just told you that he could have made it big when the Paralympics rifle shooting ticked.
32:55Yeah, but that was a long time ago. You know how long he's been doing the last leg for. This is a hell of an advert for diversity.
33:05Alex,
33:09are you ready? I think so. Three, two, one, fire. Oh, here we go. Hit my face. Hit my chest. Oh! Oh!
33:29Sit back in his chair. Sure. Well...
33:37Christmas is ruined. Do you know what? You have put me off Christmas.
33:47That was Christmas present. Thank you, Alex. Yeah, it's all right, mate. No worries. Now we move on to Christmas. Future. Oh, gosh!
34:01What future is this? Don't know. It's a sort of 1980s dystopian future. So for the audio listener, Ghost of Christmas Future is dressed in an 80s shell suit with a piggy-blinded slack cap. This is the Ghost of Christmas Future. Thank you. And with one final present for you, but this time you can open it as soon as he gives it to you. Yes, please. Here we go. Ghost of Christmas Future. Oh, thank you. Be gone. Thank you. Be gone, Ghost. Back to the future. Oh, here we go. What have we got here, mate? Go on, put the cup back on the top of your head now. What have we got here? It's a football joke.
34:38It's a football. Yeah. And we alluded to it earlier, didn't we? So what have we got coming up that we are going to be involved in? Soccer aid. Mate. Soccer aid. How excited are you genuinely? I've been looking forward to chatting to you about this. I'm really nervous. Are you? Yeah. You're in goal, aren't you? Yeah, I'm not as really worried about that. because I'm doing half a half with Paddy McGuinness. Okay. Have you played football? Did you used to play? I started football when I was 12. Yeah. Playing in goal? It was in goal mainly because I filled it. You know, the old five sides. I basically filled those goals so we put Chubsy-Bubsy in the goal and I was happy with that.
35:15I bet you're good. I bet you're strong as well. Shoulder challenge. I bet you're absolutely unbeatable. I'm good at corners. Yeah. As in when they come in I charge out and go to punch the ball but you know punch the ball you know I can't wait to see you I'm looking forward to it what's is it as fun as it looks it's more fun I'm most worried about the meet up no no that'd be and then you're locked in for like three or four days I was the first time I got to do it I was so excited I'd watched I'm sure you've watched them but I watched the first like from when I was at university I remember finishing my first year at university when I did the first one and I remember being obsessed with the idea that there was this game where you've got like Diego Maradona taking a penalty against Jamie Feakston and you're like what the fuck is going on and I remember thinking this is the best thing ever and then obviously I've watched them over the years and then when I got into television if somebody had said what were the things you'd want to do so like obviously League of Their Own was one of them Celebrity Juice was another one and then yeah soccerade was a big one it was like the one that was left that I was so desperate to do and I just thought they wouldn't ask me because obviously they don't associate me probably with somebody who'd be playing football even though I love my football and so when they asked me it was amazing but I was nervous about the meet up because you're there with a lot like you're like oh gosh you know what are the ex-pros going to think what are the other celebs going to think you know because they're like oh it's a geezer you know what football can be you know what sport can be like it's like if they think you're the weak link yeah and is that is it going to be like I was properly like crapping it and you get in and it is the best how many times have you done it now this will be my fifth wow my fifth cap this year before I did the first one I remember Bradley Walsh who did loads of them I remember working with him and he was just he said if I can give you one bit of advice Al he said just get the ball and just give it to a pro and he went and you'll look like the tidiest player there and I remember the very first one literally every time I got it I was just like just give it to someone better than me which is everyone.
37:22So any pass I make makes me, I just remember thinking, I remember making my first completed pass again. That'll do. And I was blowing. That's the thing is, I was just absolutely, absolutely blowing. It's the best though. And also it is, I'm an ambassador for UNICEF UK and I started doing that last year and I've been involved with the charity now and it is for, it's an incredible, it's an incredible cause. It really is. And I always find a very, the first night we'll get there and we'll have the training as soon as we get there and it's awesome and like everyone's excited you'll meet up but the very first night every year you sit there everyone gathers as dinner but they'll show you the appeal films and then it's like that is when it hits home that's when it really hits home because you're doing it's the biggest privilege to do but you are also doing it for an amazing cause and there is like I got really proud to the fact that I got asked to do it and it was awesome because there's the two sides of it.
38:22There's the incredible cause, but then also there's the side of you which is a football fan. And you're there and you're like, bloody hell, it's like Roberto Carlos is just sat right there with me. Now, I still get giddy about meeting footballers and it's so exciting, but they're the best and you sit and you chat with them, we do karaoke. You do what? We do karaoke. What? We have a little bit of karaoke. Do I have to get prepped? No. I bet you, you knocked out about four or five songs just today. You're good to go, mate. Do stay another day, bring your keyboard. I love it. Can I have it back, actually?
38:58I might need to redo that. That's a thing. In rugby, it was part of, not initiation, but that was the first cat. It's not really as much of an initiation. It's just like, in the evening, you just get to sit and everyone's, you know, they have a karaoke machine. Both teams? Both teams. Are you still... No, both teams. Both teams. and everyone sits together and you just sit and I remember the first year doing I always sing Backstreet Boys I want it that way but I remember singing That's your go to Yeah Well obviously it's a boy band Yeah And last year I'd done it with Nicky Byrne from Westlife and Tom Grennan who are obviously professional singers and it's the best it sounded and it's obviously because they were doing the heavy lifting a lot of it but you sit there and you're like bloody Usain Bolt watching me sing Backstreet Boys Seeing how excited you've got at Socorade Soccerade and Christmas, mate.
39:47Yeah, I know. Soccerade is my May Christmas. May and June Christmas every year. My angle is going to be seeing you get so excited about Soccerade clearly means that you can think past Christmas. Well, actually, when I'm at soccer, I don't think about Christmas. I don't think about Christmas. I'm not thinking about that. That's the only time you're not thinking about it. We're making progress, aren't we? Huge progress. That is a slight ween. All he needs is hundreds of thousands of people watching him play football. Seems like a sustainable treatment plan.
40:21Right, Alex, one last attempt at trying to wean you off this Christmas obsession. One final exercise for you. I think you've over-romanticised the best parts of Christmas. Yeah. So I'd quite like to discuss the shittest parts. Okay. So in fact, in the lining of Joe's hat, we've actually got a load of prompts all about Christmas. and you and Joe are going to respond with not what you think the best version of these categories are, but the shittest answer, okay? We're going to keep on going until you hear Santa's bell end. That'll end. That's what it sounds like. Santa's bell end? Well, until you hear the end of Santa's bell, yeah.
41:01So when you hear Santa's bell end. Why do you keep saying Santa's bell end? Do you know what, Joe? Because it's Christmas, I'm having a fucking laugh. Alright? I'm trying to have a fucking laugh at Christmas. First one to be pulled out. What is the shittiest Christmas tradition?
41:24Oh, God. Crackers are shit. Crackers are absolutely futile. Really? I thought you'd love that sort of stuff. Yeah, and it's not, again, people go, oh, because he always loses. No, I don't. It's... That's not why. I always get nail clippers. The amount of bloody nail clippers I've had, Jake. It's just upsetting. Shit is Christmas TV show. I'm going to say it, I've never watched the Queen's or King's speech. The Monarch's speech. Never! No, I've watched them, but I've never enjoyed one. No. I've never gone, Oh, man, that was a belter.
42:03Just put a couple of gags in there. Like, genuinely, if Charles starts this year and goes, Fuck me, it's been a tough old one, innit? I'd go, mate. real plus side like we're one less at the dinner table this year innit and you go mate that's good gear that is good gear like let's have a bit of fun with it the shittiest Christmas song oof oh um I think Mistletoe and Wine is crap that's so shit Mistletoe and Wine children singing Christian rhymes oh is that it oh it's awful what about Away in a Manger Yeah, that's gash. Yeah, but it's endearing though, isn't it? What's endearing about it? Well, I bet he's got no crib for a bed.
42:51I can't say gash. Yeah, you can. By the way, I nearly said gash when I was talking about the king's feet, so there you go. I think it's gash. Shit is Christmas dinner item. Bread sauce can fuck off. Oh, bread sauce. Bread sauce, my, yes. Why, bro? I've never had bread sauce with Christmas. Never had in my life. I've had bread sauce, but I wouldn't have it with Christmas dinner. What difference does it make? Let's name the plainest solid and make it a sauce. By the way, I have mint sauce on all meats. I have mint sauce on all meats! It's the best condiment for me! Now we're talking! Fucking love Christmas!
43:31Down with the monarchy and up with mint sauce! Mint sauce on everything! That's what we're going for. oh wait for Santa's bell to end yeah I get it all of that has told us I think that actually there's quite a lot of shit stuff about Christmas as well don't you think Joe well yeah well it's more some of it is crap actually aimed at Alex really no you're right you've you know bread sauce has annoyed me just thinking about it it was actually nice to see you engage in a bit of shit chat like that with me and we discovered that you're not completely obsessed with everything you're not you're not blindly loyal to Christmas.
44:07No, I'm not blindly loyal to it. No. I'll never turn my back on it, but I don't love everything about it. No. I don't think you can love everything about anything, can you? We've loved everything about you, brother. Oh, mate.
44:22Right, Alex, that is the end of our session today. Well done. Loved it. You know, you engaged in a bit of Christmas negativity with me. And you also gave me a little bit of Christmas positivity. I'm going to leave here going, oh, it's not all that bad. And I hope you leave here going, oh, it's not all that good. No. I think we have a little bit of balance about it. Yeah. Before you go, to remind you of the growth that you've shown in this session, we get you a badge. Badge and a lollipop. That's what every patient gets. What have we gone for for the badge this week, Jake? We've gone for humbug.
45:01Humbug. Humbug. Yeah. And that's for you. Yeah, let's put like, you also get a lollipop. I'll give that to you. Thank you. Can I take any flavour I want? Yeah. Cheers. Do I have to put it on now? It's your badge. You can do whatever you want with it. It's your lolly. It's your badge. Cheers. It's your life. Episode's gone on long enough as it is without me trying to open this on camera. So that's just... These are good. Janet, please, could you come and pick up Alex Brooker? Yeah, sure. Brilliant. Love you. Bye. Alex Brooker, everybody. Cheers, everyone. Cheers. See you later. Cheers. See you later.
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From the publisher
Alex Brooker arrives at Joe Marler's office with a love of Christmas that borders on obsession - so Joe decides to meet it head-on.
Armed with surprises, nostalgia, and a relentless festive onslaught, Joe attempts to tackle Alex’s all-consuming love of Christmas with the most over-the-top exposure therapy yet.
But beneath the chaos lies something more personal. Alex reflects on where his love of Christmas began, the worst present he’s ever received, and how his perspective on life - and his disability - has evolved over the years, particularly through his time on The Last Leg.
The mission? Not to ruin Christmas… just to prove there might be other things in the year worth getting excited about.
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