Nish Kumar Reveals Why He Nearly Quit Comedy

25:07But... Yeah, but that's only some people that have seen that. Oh, sure, sure, sure. There is also part of me that enjoys that as a bit of a... as a bit of a mask or a bit of a defence, immediate defence. Oh, they're going to skirt around things because they think I'm going to be angry. Yeah. When actually it turns out, no, I'm not that arsed. But do you know what I mean? They're like, oh, don't, you might annoy him. but that's quite a nice thing to have. Do you know what I mean? It's quite a weird thing. Did you ever find that as like having a bit of a reputation of being quite angry and aggressive?

25:38Well, definitely there are times where people go, don't bring that up in front of him. He's going to be furious. And you're like, what? The climate change and the end of the world. I feel like we should all, I feel like I'm the sane one here. Don't bring up the fact that the world's on fire. It really gives him the hump. He'll be in a bad mood all night. He'll be in a bad mood all night. But the title of the show is kind of a reference to the fact that I am both furious on stage, but also a kind of obsequious people pleaser off stage. As a kid, were you angry? Yeah, I was angry and... You were an angry kid.

26:13Yeah, I was an angry kid, yeah. I don't want to make anyone too sexually aroused, but I was the captain of my school's debating team. Oh my god. How many people were on the team? Two.

26:31what what don't don't be annoyed by this question yeah but again would be wonderful if Norton did this listen Nicole Kimber don't get the hump about this no no offence but

26:51what is a debating team like who would you debate against other schools so is it like a legit like yeah match that you set up so weird It's not like in-house. We did in-house and out-of-house. And that's funny you say that because you have to say this house. Yeah, that's exactly right. You have to say this house. That's the motion. So you debate on a motion and the motion would be something like this house believes that we should have the death penalty. And then there'd be one side proposing it and one side opposing it. But at a school one though, you'd have, this house believes that there should be no death penalty followed by this house believes we should abolish school uniform.

27:27Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's the school debating level. Like, you'd have to do, you'd have both. This house believes that Wednesdays are rubbish. Followed by, this house believes that the Iraq war is an illegal war. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd have proper, like, big, add-on topics. I'm pretty sure that's exactly two debates we had when I was in. I was at school in the early 2000s. Yeah. Those were two hot-button topics, hump day and the Iraq war.

27:52Were you, did you, I mean, were you so good at the debating club that you were able to do the ultimate thing, which was debate a motion that you didn't agree with? So that's where I fell down in the end. I was able to very clearly argue stuff that I believed in, but I really struggled because the point of debating is it's supposed to teach you to argue. And so there will be times where you have to debate things that you're in favour of, and then there'll be times where you have to debate things that you're against, but the skill is that you can build an argument regardless. And I was never very good at debating things that I didn't.

28:26I do remember, this is true, So we got to the final of a national competition when I was at school. And the final motion they gave me and my friend to defend was we should enforce patents on antiretroviral drugs for people with AIDS. So it was like basically defend the idea that medical companies should charge people for antiretroviral drugs to treat AIDS. And I did think, I don't think we're going to win this competition. at that point you're like I've got GCSEs to be worrying about I think but yeah I was that but I but I was always a very I was a quite politically interested child I would say that's obviously a very formal way of getting into arguments or fights yeah essentially why didn't why did you want to do it so formally why didn't you just go like oi you death penalty yay or nay yeah just being well why was it so formal I think it was just I think in reality if I'm honest what I really liked was everyone being forced to listen to me speak and I think what I also really liked and what I was good at was writing jokes about serious subjects that's why I was good at debating James Acaster always says I should tell everybody that I was when I was at school I used to do funny debating speeches because he says it explains everything about your work and personality.

29:57And I don't think he's being complimentary. What else were you sort of like nerding out over as a kid? Oh, you know, I was, I've been describing myself on stage as a strange little boy, because my two heroes when I was 15 were Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix. And I used to have a, they used to let us pick whatever tie we wanted to wear. And every day for two years, I wore a tie with all four of the Beatles on it from the inlay of the White Album. You're a Beatles fan. And the ladies went wild!

30:31What about Bob Dylan, the Hurricane song? Love the Hurricane. Is that still on record the longest ever song? No, I don't think that's the longest Bob Dylan song. What? There's some long songs, man. Wait, the Hurricane's like eight minutes long. He recently did, like, I think a nearly 15-minute song about the assassination of JFK. Is he still with us? He is one, not only is he still with us, he's about to still be with me when I go to watch him at the Royal Festival Hall in December. What? He's still alive? Yeah. How old is he? 85. Fuck. No, he's actually, yeah, he is 85. Here comes the story of the hurricane.

31:08The man the authorities came to blame. For something that he never done. And I love the Bob Dylan song, The Hurricane, and I actually got to play my guitar on stage with two of the members of that band, the violin player Scarlett Rivera and the bass player Rob Stoner, who played on Hurricane, and the album Desire, and the subsequent Rolling Thunder review tour. You're a guitarist as well. As well as what? Again, I never said I was good. No, but you said stand-up comedian. Stand-up comedian, guitarist, debater. Is he good at any of them? That's not his business to say.

31:44This is a public service announcement that we are taking the podcast on tour. That's right. All over the country, you can come and see me, Joe, and that skeleton with a beard on it doing our thing. What about Janet? Well, she will maybe be there. I'm just worried that sometimes she sort of oversteps the mark a little bit. We've got a lot of people watching this. That's the thing. We are going to have some very special guests. That's guaranteed. We're going to definitely get you your magnificent thighs on the show. People can see that in real life. All of them? What do you mean, all of them? You've got three.

32:13Actually, I heard the rumors.

32:17I don't call my dick a thigh. There will be chaos. Who do you know that goes, hey, check out my thigh? As a reference for their dick. No one goes, oh, check out my third thigh. I thought when people talked about the thigh gap, it was a lack of dick. What? There'll be chaos. Is that why they go check out my third thigh? I have to read the autocue. I have to read the, I'm so contracted to. There'll be chaos. There'll be audience participation. and there's guaranteed to be some things we probably shouldn't say in front of a live audience. That will be one of them, actually, probably. How do people get tickets?

32:49Are they available now? Tickets are available right now! Haven't got a watch on. If you don't come, we will notice. I can't stress enough, these are massive venues. If you don't come, it will be a sea of empty seats. You have to buy a ticket. We really will notice. And it will bring shame on the podcast, which I don't think you want, because if you're watching this, you'd probably like it a bit. so get your tickets from the link in the description now what other things did you nerd out on when you weren't debating well I was a big fan of comedy I was a huge fan well I was a big fan I still am a big fan of going to the movies I watched a lot of films I watched a lot of movies when I was a kid were you happy going to the movies alone?

33:32thrilled did it on Friday what did you see? double header I saw Bitter Christmas, the new Pedro Almodovar movie, and Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma. Two films in one day? Yeah, double header. Did you stop for lunch? Yeah, yeah, I stopped for lunch. Watched one in the morning, had lunch, went back, saw the second movie. Fantastic. I've never met anyone who's seen two films in the cinema in one day. That can't be true. Genuinely, that's true. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's something, that's quite a common thing. Sorry, hang on. Sorry, we didn't tee up a show of hands there. What's happened in the cinema?

34:06We asked for so much engagement over these last fucking episodes and no one goes there. And then suddenly there's a silent show of defiance against what I've just said. But the benefit of people, obviously neither the viewers nor the listeners can see or hear, but the entire crew have just reenacted the end of Spartacus. Every single person has put their hand up. In solidarity was niche, they've all seen two films in the same day. I've seen three films in a day. What? Hang on. Do you want to pick your hands up for that? Even if I say too much. Too much, nerd. just for the three films were they connected no they weren't connected at all there were three three I think they were in three different cinemas now that's wild I was I was just bouncing around town watching movies okay well I I admire that I wish I had your life if I'm honest yeah like an American wow that's what Americans do isn't it they're just sort of like Americans don't book to go to the cinema they just catch a movie yeah Yeah, incredible.

35:04What? That's my view of Americans anyway from the 1950s. I thought you were actually telling me how they go about purchasing their tickets. When you're coming home from school, what telly were you banging on when you got home? Well, I grew up in the late 90s, early 2000s, so obviously I was banging on The Simpsons at 6pm. I fucking love The Simpsons. I mean, I don't get to watch it anymore, but... I love The Simpsons, but I had a complicated relationship with Apu. Yeah, as did a lot of... This is the complex relationship, is it? Is this something I need to sit back on? Well, you weren't doing The Voice, were you?

35:38You've definitely done The Voice at some point. I don't blame you for it. You will have done The Voice at some point. But it was like, Simpsons is just genius, but they just had to have that one... He was like the most famous Indian guy on telly. That's the thing. My friend Harry Contabolu actually made a really good documentary about it called The Problem With Apu, which is about the tension between... You know that guy who wrote that film? Yeah, it's about the tension between being a Simpsons fan who is also South Asian. And also Apu is such a complicated character because there is so much of it that's a stereotype and a trope.

36:10But he's also named after the protagonist in the Apu trilogy, the Sathjit Rai movies, that the Simpsons creators all really love. So it's a really rich and complicated backstory to that character. I think the issue with Apu mainly is that it's a problem when a show is still on TV like 40 years after it started. Like a show that was invented in 1989 is obviously going to have values that feel dissonant in 2026. But they did eventually. They actually, Apu does no longer exist on The Simpsons, I believe. Yeah. It kills him off. It doesn't feel rich and nuanced when you're sort of like in the playground.

36:51Someone going, thank you, come again, thank you, come again, thank you, come again. And that's the premise of the documentary. One of the great things about The Simpsons, I think, that everyone is always fascinated by is the predictions that they've made. Trump coming down the escalator, yeah. That can't be true. What? I've seen so many of these that the citizens have predicted it all. But for some reason, I've stitched in my own brain that they just went back, the creators just went back and changed it. And Ben just changed it. No, no, no. Producer George has given me some of the freakiest ones.

37:23Donald Trump's presidency in a 2000 episode entitled Bart to the Future. Lisa Simpson becomes president mentions inheriting a massive budget crunch from our predecessor Donald Trump and there's even that scene where he's like coming down an escalator coming down an escalator yeah and there's this image when he became president of him coming down what seems to be the similar escalator yeah but has he done that? what time was that like I don't think so no let's replicate that he couldn't have just he's not intelligent enough to go on Covid in 1993 they predicted a pandemic with flu-like symptoms spreading from Asia they predicted Covid?

37:54yeah Yeah. The only thing I would say about both of these things is a lot of people, there have been these kind of once-a-century pandemics like the Spanish flu in the 1920s. True. But I think with The Simpsons, it's what happens when you have a lot of smart people in a writer's room. Yeah. Because President Donald Trump feels out of step, but if you're thinking satirically about America, it makes total sense that Donald Trump would become president. You know, the combination of celebrity and wealth has always sort of intersected with American politics. And, you know, if Ronald Reagan can go from starring in a trilogy of films with a chimpanzee called Bonzo, it doesn't feel, it feels less crazy when you think about that.

38:43So Nish, very quickly, I thought we could do our own sort of Simpsons style quickfire predictions and just see what you think is going to happen on some of these topics. quickfire predictions Andy Burnham's mid to distant future well I think he'll still be prime minister at the next election I don't think there's any way that whoever I think I don't think there's any way he'll be he won't be going leading the Labour Party into the next general election 100 % oh is it too late to call this segment Nisradamus no definitely not is it too late I think it's not is it we'll get a graphic oh my god Nisradamus or Nos Kamaras Oh my god Nos Kamaras This is great Incredible I've got an idea Guys I've got an idea Can we call this Shit Nearly stole it Nearly stole it Will this news Will this scandal About funding Be the thing That brings down Farage No I don't think so I don't think it will You don't think No I don't think it will I think that he Because I think In order to really In order to get rid of the leader of the political party, it doesn't matter how much external pressure there is, eventually someone from within the party has to be the one that actually removes them.

39:59You know, if you look at every Tory leader, even Starmer, even with the reason Starmer went was the Labour Party eventually had enough of him. And I don't think, I'm not sure there's anything Farage could do. Yeah, it's so true. I think Farage could cook and eat Larry the cat. And I believe still some members of the Reform Party would say, the thing is Nigel's a man of the people and sometimes men of the people will cook and eat cats okay he actually he's not caught up in the sort of elite of politics the non-cat eating sorry for making a stand against ultra-processed food you know what I mean it's called the whole ingredients ridiculous I know that you I think I think you might well let's find out you're friends with half the people involved in this who's going to win Celebrity Traitors 2 series 2 who's going to win Celebrity Traitors Series 2.

40:53I'm trying to remember who else is in it. Huge prediction coming in. This is a Joe Marlowe See You Now exclusive. I'm calling it. I think it's going to be Alan Carr. I think there's going to be a mid-game switch. They're trying to twist, they're putting twists on the format. I think mid-game switch, Alan Carr comes in for Michael Sheen and ends up winning the whole thing. Who's winning the Premier League? Arsenal. And finally, Joe and I are going on tour. Here we go. Can you help us with any predictions? Would it be okay or is it all going to go tits up? No, I think it's going to go great. I think it's going to be fantastic.

41:29We're very nervous. As long as you take that desk that's slightly too small for the stuff that needs to be on it, Joe. I think the key to this show is the lack of proportion in the desks. Because I think it gives... Sorry, the proportion of the desk because it gives you a sense of like... It keeps you in your place. It really does. And the thing when double-axle bands go on tour is there's a tension over who's in charge, but based on the size of desk, Jake has very much been put in his place. I think the proximity of the desks from each other helps that as well, doesn't it? I think as long as you stage every show in exactly this way.

42:03If you scale this up to the Palladium, it's going to be fucking mental. Joe, what are you thinking about? What?

42:15Right, Nish, you've spent years at the face of culture wars in this country. Correct. Sticking it to the man. Yeah. And I mean that in like a good way, rather than most people go, oh, he's the sort of guy that just sticks it to the man. What does sticking it to the man mean? It feels like something from, it feels like vernacular from the 60s, because there was a lot of like, in the kind of hippie era, there was a lot of talk about the man. the man is trying to get us down so we've got to stick it to the man. I thought it was more from School of Rock. Well, I think that, I think it, I think School of Rock may have got it from the 60s.

42:49I wasn't born in the 60s. Listen, a perfect film. Absolutely a perfect film, School of Rock. It's good. Baby, we were making straight A's But we were stuck in the dull days Don't take much to memorise your lies I feel like I've been hypnotised And if you want to be the teacher's pet, baby, you just better forget it. I got no reason. I got no rhyme. You better get me to school on time. Oh, yeah. Oh, I wonder why you joined it with Nish and not me. I wonder why you two teamed up. Indian politics, baby. I'm Indian, and he's politics.

43:38Now, we've booked the palladium. As long as it's not Indian politics, horrible stuff, that. Horrible stuff, that. Horrible stuff, Indian politics. Horrible man. Absolutely awful, the man's promoting. Terrible bloke. What I love is that we've just had that moment of joy, and then I'm meant to following it up with this. And you know the question. There's no way of doing it. It's fine. you spent years as the face of the culture wars yeah in this country during which you faced a lot of abuse correct what was some of the worst criticism that you guys had I can do it just do it so do you remember how you were singing that lovely song just like hey and your big smiley face what's the nastiest thing you've had to you I got some death threats in 2020 what like real life ones you're not just going off We had to get the police involved.

44:34But it was a really weird time when you look back on it. I think a lot of things were going on. Basically, in the kind of late 2010s, I was hosting a show on the BBC called The MASH Report, which was a political comedy show. And in the late 2010s, post-Brexit, a lot of the kind of conservative political project was malfunctioning, which seems hard to sort of think back on, given that they then won a thumping win in the election in 2019. And also, it's hard to remember kind of anything before COVID now. But the thing was malfunctioning. Also, I was hosting a show on the BBC. And so there is a section of the British press that is trying to eliminate the BBC and may well succeed eventually.

45:17But they were using any excuse to say, how dare you spend license fee money on this, this and this. Now, unfortunately, a show that was sort of largely fronted by people of colour, women, even women of colour, that that show was sort of almost it was exactly the sort of thing that they wanted to fixate on you know how do you spend the license fee on this tv show and so i sort of became the face of a lot of that i think there was a lot of people that wanted to criticize the bbc and i was the sort of way in for them yeah so it was it was a very strange period in my life that i look back on with some confusion and through the help of and this is not a criticism a real therapist

46:06i'm able to look back on it with a kind of strange sense of like a strange sense of sort of i've got a good perspective on those years you sort of become a character in the media but and it did lead to some quite extraordinary things you know a man a man who has a column in the Times got so upset with me that he said that I was too offensive for an event that I was performing at and the event that I was performing at was the Freedom of Expression Awards I wonder what I wonder what was going through his head when he said those words or wrote those words going oh it was really really it was really unclear really really unclear you touched on like in the in the midst of it all you became a character yeah in it all did any point of it did any part of you get lost in that and then ended up playing more of a character so I'm trying to relate so in my rugby career which is a tiny microcosm of the actual world and nothing like it but I was a pantomime villain yeah and you know I did things wrong and fucked up and you know in the sport and then would and there was times where it got really intense and then I'd lean into it more and become that character as a way of almost trying to control the narrative and the abuse that I was receiving off the back of it that I could handle because I was actually going out my way to, you know, I'm doing these things and the abuse I'm getting off the back is I'm in control of them.

47:39I'm asking for it. Did you ever go, actually, this is my position, I'm going to lean into and become this villain that they're thinking or making out that I am? We definitely made jokes about it on the Mass Report. We definitely lent into the sort of comedy of the hysteria of those reactions. But I think it was only like a couple of years later in 2022, I did a whole show about it, a stand-up show about it. And that was probably the time where I like grappled with the sort of actuality of it. And the show was called Your Power, Your Control. And it is available on the internet and Sky, I think.

48:19But that show was the first time where I think I grappled with the actuality of it. But we probably did lean into it for comedy on The Mash Report. We leant into some of the hostility of the responses in the press. And we would definitely... That was a way of us kind of taking control of it. What I've loved and loved hearing is the darkness at which you clearly went to on all the heat when you go fucking death threats and journalists what was this this one says a journalist wanted to throw an axe at you yes yes yes one of the sun's television critic and I love that you can now sit there and just talk about it not with joy but with ease and you've dealt with it all yeah but were there moments there in it where you're like fuck this I'm just gonna get out of this and stop it all I don't want any of the noise because all of that far outweighs any joy that I was getting from actually the stuff you were producing.

49:22Yeah, 100%. There were so many times where my agent is sick of me, hearing me say, I'm quitting. And, you know, there is always a part of you that's like, to do what? You have no skills. Like, what are you going to do? Fantastic supportive agent you have. You've got fuck all else, to do what? But, yeah, there were definitely there's a lot of points where you're like why am i doing what the hell's going on so why did you then go no fuck it i'm gonna fight for this and i'm gonna crack on and do more i don't like being bullied and i never did and so but and that's not to say that a big part of why i've been able to why i was like able to continue is because i made good money and i used that money to pay a really good therapist who helped me then and still continues to help me now in terms of managing my mental health like it's that's the only reason i'm still sort of doing this job really i think and also i got a really supportive partner and a really supportive group of friends who you know of whom a cast of wood number as one who like and that there's like a community that really kept me afloat through that period of time um and it's yeah you really you really lean on your friends and family at that point and i i did lean on my friends and family and i did also just have a really good therapist like a combination of all of that stuff and also part of the reason i was able to afford a therapist because it's really difficult to get it that sort of support the nhs is because i made money and so i'm not like blind to the fact that i'm lucky in that my career went well enough that a byproduct of all the negative stuff was I was like touring and playing theatres and I reinvested that money into my mental health.

51:18Right, Nish, we have tried to help you care less today. Yeah. I think we've had a little bit of success. Definitely. But I think there's still quite clearly some work to do. Lots. In this final exercise, I want to bring it back to politics because I feel that's my strong point. Here we go. To give you some faith in our political leaders, let's see how terrible the cabinet would look if it was full of comedians. Here we go. Okay, we're going to debate who would make the best cabinet out of our famous comedians and the positions I'm looking for are Prime Minister. Here we go. Defence Secretary. Oh boy.

51:59Chancellor of the Exchequer. In brackets, budget. Thank you for putting that. I had semi-worked out that it was that, but I really appreciate just giving me that nudge along really good. Money and stuff. Money and stuff. We're going to go Foreign Secretary, Education and Health. Shall we start from the bottom? Now we're here. Yeah. Shall we start from Health and move up? Are you saying that the Health is probably the least important? I don't think it is. No. I think that the British, the government establishment has probably prioritised health and education lower than it should be for many years.

52:38Health secretary. Maybe Gamble. Okay. Gamble's a very healthy guy. He is looking younger than he was. Yeah, Gamble, and also Gamble's been on a health journey. Gamble's also got a chronic condition. He's type 1 diabetic. So that gives him an interesting perspective on living with a chronic condition. But he lives very healthily, but still will occasionally have a 10-course dinner. So I think he's got a nice rounded balance. Any other offers? I like that you're looking for some sort of prior experience for the role rather than the current system, which is who's up for it. Who's up for it? Who's up for it?

53:14Who's up for it and who's quite good mates with me? I mean, to be fair, you are quite good mates, but this is a hypothetical thing about comedians. But weirdly, that similarity is both in this one and that and the real one. Education secretary. There's probably quite an obvious answer here. Well, there's a few because they're ex-teachers, right? They're all bloody teachers. Ranganathan's ex-teacher. Greg Davis, ex-teacher. Laura Smith. There's a lot of good options in that. Listen, to be clear, I don't think any comedian should go into politics. But in the reality that we've accepted, we have to name them as politicians.

53:53We are sort of overstuffed for, Oh, actually, Health Minister, we could also go looking to Sinha. We could look at Harry Hill. These are former doctors. Yeah, that's a great shout. In what? What were they doctors in, though? They were all medical doctors. Medical doctors. Like you? Yeah. Foreign Secretary, Sue Perkins has been loads of places. Perkins has done a lot of travelling. Perkins has been around. Perkins has done a lot of travel. Superkins. Superkins has done a lot of travel. So you've got to be, you want to be looking at your Perkins, your Palins. Yeah. These are your travel-based comedians.

54:29Chancellor of the Exchequer. Budget. Yeah. I got so excited he dropped his pencil. Who's been managing loads of money for quite some time? Catherine Ryan is both very rich and very generous. Catherine Ryan is secretly one of the most generous people in the comedy industry. And I think that she also knows how to keep her finances in check. Okay, the Defence Secretary. I think this might surprise a lot of people, but if there's one person I would say would be willing to push the button, Sarah Pascoe. If there's one person, in spite of all of her public, Pascoe wouldn't hesitate for a second. She's cold-blooded.

55:15She wouldn't hesitate for a second. And finally, who's got the top job? The reality is that Greg Davis looks so imposing. And as Taskmaster, he is sort of the Prime Minister of Light Entertainment. I think this is a good shout. It'd be quite funny to have Acaster as Prime Minister. Fuck off. Just for the UN negotiations. We've just thrown an absolute curveball in there. Imagine the US-UK trade negotiations. Trump's like, I'm going to put a tariff on all dogs. And Acaster would be like, oh yeah? You think you could out-weird me? I'm going to outweird you we've changed the name of the country to fuck you Trump how do you feel about that?

55:56you'd have a real advantage in trade negotiations because nobody would be able to predict what he was going to say sentence to sentence that would be class wouldn't it? fucking Acast as Prime Minister I think this is a perfect line up you're not giving yourself any role God no no what would have been nice though Joe on retrospect is if we went but we think that you should be so you've done all the cabinet but actually going to stop you there Nish because we're going to crown you Prime Minister but we didn't we sort of just let you talk about everyone else so Nish what do we think has that helped you in any way at all no you know what it has given me a lot of faith because now that you've listed those people I've realised maybe our current cabinet isn't so bad after all wonderfully done really wonderfully done

56:43Nish that's the end of our session today I'm cured I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't as a pseudo professional I wouldn't say that even in my unprofessional opinion I wouldn't say that is a sentence that you should come out with and we haven't helped you with that I do know that I have had fun it's been very fun I've had a great time I've learnt so much and if you're doing that to me and all the other people that come and see your tour and continue to watch comedy it's fucking brilliant keep doing it thanks Joe I absolutely love it remind us where people can get tickets for your tour please You can go to nishkama.co.uk and buy tickets for my tour.

57:20Angry humour from a really nice guy. Coming to all theatres in UK and Ireland. Not all of them, some of them. All right, before you go, everyone gets a badge to remind them of the arc that they've been on in today's session. What options do we go with badge, Jake? We've gone with not my fucking problem.

57:43And that is for you, Nish. You can take that with you. Okay, it's definitely yours. Thank you very much, Jake. Wow, that's fantastic. You've got a selection of lollipops. Oh, my God. Don't worry about the spillage of those ones that clearly have melted. Yeah, there's a couple of them that have melted. So they've melted together. These ones have melted together. God. It's been a tough August, hasn't it? While we've not been here. I'll tell you what, the temperature has not been kind to the lolly community. Nish Kumar, everybody! Please, Janet, we'll see you out and give you a little bag of meth as you go.

58:18Go on, Janet. Wake yourself up. Let's get the meth in me. If you want to join the doctor's waiting list, then please subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Instagram, at We'll See You Now Show. Remember, unless it's not clear enough already, I'm not a real doctor. If you need any professional help, you'll find a link to great support services on our Instagram. I've been Joe Marler. He's been Jake Bardwaj. I was hoping they would applaud him, but clearly... Too late. It's too late. Too late. We'll see you next time. Bye-bye.