Pete Wicks: Tattoos, Trauma & Trying to Be Enough

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1:55Why wait? We. Go. V. What happens if someone's to continually call you Peter? Someone of your size? Nothing.

2:06Joe Marler:Someone of my size? I'll kick the fuck out of you. Yeah, that's about right. I'm 37 and I'm still single. You're 37? Yeah. Fuck off. You think I was older? Yeah. No, no, no. I've done it again. Why have you just immediately, like, sort of stroked your nose? That's a telltale sign of a liar. That's the first thing that you've said that actually sounds like you know what you're talking about. I'm Joe Muller. And I'm good at... getting strangers to overshare. I'm Pete Wicks. And I'm good at insulting people. Oh, you think you're good at insulting people? Yeah. Fucking show me then.

2:51Joe Marler:Hello and welcome to my office. This is Joe Marler Will See You Now with me, Dr. Joe Marler. This is the show where I pop the bonnet of the minds of Britain's best loved celebrities and poke a belt to see what's rattling. With me as always is my trusty research assistant, Jake. Joe. Oh, good. Yes, I like it. Joe, how are you? I love it when you do this. Joe, how are you? It's a little bit like Rob Bryan's Ronnie Corbett. He does that a lot. How's your day been? Pleasant. Yes? Although it has been... It started off bad. Why? What happened? You know when you first wake? Yes. I mean, if I said no to that, you'd be like, what's going on here?

3:34Joe Marler:I know when you first wake. I'm aware of it. And I did a fart. I'll be straight with you. I did a fart. Right. And I sort of went to nod off again. It was like a little... like a little one little nice went to nod off again yeah and as I did and then as I've moved it's like wafted and I've gone fucking hell has the dog done a shit I thought the dog had done a purg downstairs again it wasn't it was me it was Maya Noose and I was quite I was disappointed in myself usually a lot of people and I know you lot out there you'll be sat there like I don't do this and I'm saying the same thing to you Jay a lot of people like smelling their own farts yeah yeah Yeah, I definitely do.

4:13Joe Marler:This occasion was bad. Oh, man. I did not go back for a second. Sniff. I, over the weekend, found out about a little psychological trick that apparently tells you a little bit about yourself. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued as to whether I already know this trick because of the plethora of knowledge that I have. Yeah, of course, of course. I just thought as a doctor, you might want this in your arsenal. Okay, so close your eyes. I want you to picture yourself in a approaching a wooded area as you go into the wooded area I then want you to figure out is there a path or is there not a path you then come to a body of water what as in up to you brother up to you what it's a body full of water a body of water no one in the history of people saying the phrase body of water no one has ever thought it's someone who is just a body there bloated with too much water in them.

5:11Joe Marler:Yes, but that could be an accurate description of a body because we are 75 % water. Well, do you know what? This is interesting, actually, because I think it could still work. Imagine what your body of water is. It could be a puddle to a river, whatever it is. Is it flowing? Is it not? I then want you, finally, to come past the body of water and then you come to see and you see a bear. So I've stepped over the body and I see this grizzly bear. Yeah. And I want you to notice how this bear makes you feel and how you get past it. Do you run? Do you fight it? Do you sneak? What is it? Okay. All right.

5:51Joe Marler:Take a deep breath. Yeah. And open your eyes, my friend. Wow. Are you feeling good? Do you feel sort of back in the room? Now, each of these decisions... I never left the room. Each of the decisions you made have an impact on what you are as a person. So let's start. Was there a path? There was a couple of like fox, they used to call them foxholes. Oh. They'd dig out. See, this is interesting. Whether there's a path or not and how strict the path is, is how much you see yourself as having someone who plans out their entire life, who has a set path of how they want to get there. But it feels like, because you've got these little foxholes here and there, you've got general checkpoints of things you might want to get to in your life, but you're not set on it.

6:36Joe Marler:You're not set on it at all. Do you relate to that? Wow. Do you relate to that at all? What have you done? What have you done? What have you done? Next, body of water. Describe for me the body of water. Well, it was missing a leg.

6:54Joe Marler:it was a mix of blood and water to be honest with you right and I checked to see if they were still with us but they hadn't do you know what that represents? go on sex life right makes sense actually quite accurate and then finally the bear oh yeah yeah do you know what happened with the bear? please tell me stabbed in his left eye kicks it in his dick fucking hell yeah well it was dog eat dog mate bear eat bear the bear represents problems in life oh So the fact is you can attack him head on. Very interesting, Joe. I've learned a lot about you there. Do you know what's interesting for me? Yeah.

7:29Joe Marler:I'm meant to be the psych in this. Sure. I'm meant to be the one that knows it all. I've never heard of that exercise before. Really? And honestly you've really opened me up to the fact that there's no need for me to have heard that before because it's completely and utterly useless. It's quite shit, isn't it? Yeah.

7:53Joe Marler:I wonder what our next guest's body of water is like. What big body of water? Oh, Lakeside. Yeah, Lakeside. That's another clue. That's a very, very good clue. If we were to do the thing on him now, I would say he is, I think, maybe potentially more of a pessimistic person. Sure. But he shouldn't be because lovely guy. I don't think he does have a path set out for him. And I don't know how he deals with problems, but you're probably going to dig into that, I imagine. yeah shall we say who it is 3, 2, 1 it's Peter Wicks tattoos wise Pete's got a tattoo of Sam Thompson on him his best friend his best buddy what like Steve-O from Jackass yeah I was just wondering he's done that for him they got a podcast together would you ever do that for for someone you you're friends with at work never in a million years fine so we have a man who we're both excited to meet a prolific podcaster yeah who might teach us a few things but someone who I'm very intrigued to see how you get under the skin of.

8:54Joe Marler:I mean, do you have any tactics for this? He's going to be a tricky character. He's got this hard exterior. How do we actually tap into that and get him to open up a little bit more? Yeah. I think we agitate him. Yeah. And then disarm him maybe with a bit of love. Because I do really, really like him. Yeah. I find him really funny. Yeah, and I think Janet's really enjoying his company in the waiting room, actually. I think she really is. Yeah, and I want to enjoy his company, so... Get him in? Yeah, let's do it. Janet, please let go of Peter and send him right on in. Thank you.

9:37Joe Marler:Peter Wiggs, everybody! Yay! Welcome, sir. How are you? Dr. Marla? Yes. Yes, that is me. This is... have you got a title? Uh, side... kick side cuck. This is side cuck Jake. Are you happy with side cuck? Not really, but to be honest, I'm just glad for the work. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm happy to be here. What is your work? What is my work? Sitting in this little chair, observing, and feeding Joe any extra information about you. Research assistant. Research assistant. Assistant to the researcher. Yeah. And if you need anything, fact check in. So you're just like doctor's bitch? Doctor's bitch is lovely.

10:17Joe Marler:Right, well, we've established who I am. We've established who Jake is, but ultimately the goal of today is to establish who you really are and how we can really help you. Okay, yeah. There's a bit of scepticism coming from you, I can feel it. I mean, listen, I've needed help for a long time, but if I was going to look for someone to help me, I don't think it would be you and your bitch. That's a fair point. Well, why don't we try and change that opinion you have by starting off with the intake questionnaire. So, full name? Peter James Wicks. Peter? Peter, yeah. I christened Peter. So, Peter's your name?

10:58Yes. Peter's fine, is it? I mean, I've only really been called Peter when I've done something wrong. It's just Pete, it's just... What happens if someone's to continually call you Peter? Someone of your size? Nothing.

11:11Joe Marler:Someone of my size? I'll kick the fuck out of your ass. Yeah, that's about right. It's about right. Occupation. Oh, I sort of blagging a living, I think. Blagging a living. Yeah. But what about like media personality? Was that too wanky for you? Well, yeah, adding personality on the end is... Reality TV star. Let's go with media jack of all trades. Media jack of all. Interesting. So the next bit of Jack of All... He's master of... Nanya. Nanya. Cool. Star sign. Scorpio. Yeah, you are. Yeah. Do you know the characteristics of a Scorpio? Sting. Stink. Sting. Sting. I don't know characteristics. I just know we're supposed to have a sting in our towel.

12:01Yeah, as in poison. I don't think we stink. You said I smell nice.

12:04Joe Marler:Yeah, you do smell wonderful. Right, well... Almost like you're overcompensating for something. Just masking the smell. No, it says Scorpios are intense, loyal, brave and poisonous. I've got loyalty tattooed on the back of my neck. What? Wow. It's just to remind me to do it. Well, that's great because the next question is your first tattoo. First tattoo, yeah. What was it? I was 15. I was a deep child. A deep child? Yeah, I was a thinky child. Oh, right, yeah. So I had Never Enough tattooed on my inner forearm in Latin. How do you say it in Latin? Everyone says it differently. Non-quam? Non-quam satis, I think.

12:55Interesting. That's how I say it, but obviously I'm from the gutter, so I don't talk properly anyway.

12:59Joe Marler:Worst tattoo. Is that your worst? No. Or is that you've had... No, I mean, listen, I've got a fair collection. They're all quite bad. I mean, I've got a tattoo of Sam Thompson. Right, you've got his actual face on your body. Yeah. He's got mine as well, yeah. Aww. Yeah, no, it's cute. You feel really close, aren't you? Yeah, he's got mine there. I don't... Oh, publicly. Why did you do that? I just think he likes me more than I like him. Yeah, I've always sensed that, actually. Favourite person in the world? Is it someone other than Sam Thompson? Oh, fuck yeah, he doesn't even feature in the top ten.

13:34My mum. Oh, okay, that's lovely.

13:36Joe Marler:least favourite person in the world? It's a hard question. It's easy to say who you love the most because there aren't many. But when there are so many people that you dislike, it's hard to pick my least favourite. Do you know what I mean? Because I despise kind of all people. You'd like me to put majority? Yeah. Majority. What's your biggest fear? Well, there's two answers to that. Sure. One is just an irrational fear of something. And I don't know if I want to say it because I feel like not many people know it. And then now I feel like what will happen is people will use it against me. Is that I have an irrational fear of gorillas.

14:18It's fucking true, mate. Like, honestly, if they wanted to take over the world, they would. Like, Planet of the Apes is possibly the scariest thing I've ever seen. And I know it's mostly chimps, but the gorillas are always evil.

14:37Joe Marler:I think off the back of that and what I know about you already, there's something we can help you with. Your first tattoo was Never Enough. Your book was called Never Enough. To be honest, even for a fake doctor, the theme here is quite obvious. You're not quite the Rubik's Cube I thought you were going to be. Did you think I was going to be quite complicated and it's quite simple? Yeah, but you're actually to the point. Yeah. Yeah, okay. So, my mission today is simple. I want you to genuinely believe that you're enough. Okay. Oh. Are you up for that? I mean, I'm up for it, yeah. The best way I think we could do that is by getting naked.

15:19I mean, in that sense, I'm enough.

15:23Joe Marler:I meant emotionally. Oh, right. Excellent. Are you ready to feel like you're enough? Yes. Yeah, I'm ready. Jake, are you ready to...? Yeah. I mean, I don't have to subscribe to Porn Lab anymore. Just watch this. It'd be lovely. It would be great if you could put your cock away, though. It's quite distracting. I'm just honoured you could see it from this, if you're honest with me. This is great. Right, let's get into it. Where did this Never Enough originate from? What's it about, mate? What serious answer? Let me just clarify the whole session. You can make it as serious or as funny as you like.

16:01Joe Marler:If you want to sit here and me and you talk about masculinity and mental health or whatever, we can do that. If we can sit here and prat about, we can do that. If we do both, we can do that. It's whatever you want it to be, Peter. Wow. Both is good, though, isn't it?

16:21Joe Marler:Just going off the other eps. All right, yeah. Listen, so where did it come from? My mum tried to take her own life when I was 11. Fucking hell. Yeah. I found her and I always had this thing that she would have left me mum and dad divorced and I always had this thing that she'd have left me and I wasn't enough for her to want to be here fucking hell mate and I've only really realised that as I've kind of got older and wrote the book that that's probably why I've always felt like I've never been enough there's always this wanting to do more for other people because I've never been able to do enough I'm always the one amongst all my kind of friends and everything I'm probably a bit of control freak get shit done if you need something done I'll do it you know I'll do whatever you need me to do probably just because for I don't know some sort of validation but even if people give you that I won't believe it so it's now just in my head so actually I'm just not enough for myself it's probably not even that I'm not enough for other people anymore thank you mate yeah no in all seriousness when we were talking about three minutes ago you were like oh well I don't know we have to give you the serious answer I think but to then actually give an answer like that i'm like oh is it you know it's weird because i don't really know you know it's similar to kind of most men not great at talking about them sort of things but only really in the last couple of years i lost you know the most important person to me a few years ago and um and just went completely off the rails and that she was kind of always been from from a kid like my my safety blanket and when you kind of lose that you have to start reflecting on yourself and why you do the things you do and why you become the person you become.

18:00But pre that, I never would have spoken about anything like that.

18:03Joe Marler:And you explore that a lot in your podcast, don't you, Man Made? Yeah. Does that come up with a lot of the guests that you have on yours? Yeah. Like not being enough, that feeling of imposter, like why am I here, what am I doing? I've always said that I've never suffered with mental health. You know, my mum was bipolar and I never really understood that. I just thought she didn't want me, I didn't understand that that wasn't her at the time that was, you know, she was, she wasn't well and she, you know, she still suffers now and I think this is the thing with mental health is so many people now yeah, it's talked about loads, but no one really listens and I think that's the problem, we're all told to talk but no one really listens because actually the talking side of stuff is good for you to understand yourself but there isn't a cure for mental health there's no one size fits or answer to anything and it's just trying to ensure that you have more good days than bad days.

18:55Joe Marler:My view on it is that your mental health is the same as your physical health in the sense of you're never always perfect, you're never always bad. Do you know what I mean? It's about finding what things work for you to make you have more good days than bad days. And it's from various degrees. It's difficult because there's so many different things, you know, therapy, talk to your friends, do this, and there's so many different other or different avenues for people to go down if they are struggling but it's also can be quite disconcerting for people if they try these things and they still feel like and actually really fundamentally it all comes down to understanding yourself better and i'm a complete work in progress with that do you know i mean you know man-made is is certainly not about me giving this it's just about hearing someone's story and and listening it's not about me giving an answer to anyone because you know if you're going to come to for advice, it ain't me.

19:50It's about listening and just having that conversation where someone might listen to something and go, fuck, and understand themselves a little bit better.

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