In short
Russell Howard discusses his fear of death and how he tries to live with purpose, including “biohacking” ideas and a playful “Russell Roulette” game where he drinks from bottles labeled elixir of life (water) vs elixir of death (fish sauce). He also reflects on childhood losses (his dad’s mum died when his dad was 17; a cousin died at 18; Russell was 8) and how that shaped anxiety and sleepless nights.
Guests
Russell Howard (comedian, prolific podcaster, TV performer; started stand-up in 1998; sold over 2 million tickets; Liverpool season ticket; Aries). Joe Marler (host/“doctor of the mind”) and assistant Jake appear, plus “Grim” (Death) as a character.
Key claims
Biohacking is about maximizing time “being you”; intimate fasting/veganism are discussed as potentially helpful but with caveats; death’s only good part is saying farewell and writing eulogies.
Notable examples
Brian Johnson’s plasma-from-son anti-aging; Russell’s childhood “punching walls” from death anxiety; Heat Magazine “Weirdest Crush” win; “Russell Roulette” results (he survives multiple rounds).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOVasectomy Tales
0:00 to 0:52
A humorous discussion on vasectomies and personal medical experiences.
“For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters.”
Vasectomy Tales
3:11 to 4:38
A humorous discussion on vasectomies and personal medical experiences.
“This is the show where I ask probing questions to celebrities and get to the bottom of what makes them tick.”
Introducing Russell Howard
4:38 to 6:06
Joe introduces Russell Howard and discusses their podcast experiences.
“I just thought in case we were talking about different things.”
Exploring Positivity
6:06 to 7:22
Discussion on positivity and the challenges of happiness.
“Yeah, my research has extended to the fact that you've been on his podcast.”
Russell's Arrival
7:22 to 7:50
Russell Howard arrives and shares some inside jokes with Joe.
“And when I come in in the morning and see Janet, that always brings a smile to my face.”
Breast Milk Banter
7:50 to 8:52
A humorous exchange about breast milk and personal preferences.
“I'm glad to hear it's cleared up because Janet was showing me some pretty full-on photos.”
Questionnaire Fun
8:52 to 14:00
Russell fills out an intake questionnaire with comedic insights.
“But what I loved about that answer is that I just mentioned something that was fairly disgusting, and you just went to 100 straight away.”
Confronting Mortality and Humor
14:00 to 16:54
Explore the humorous takes on personal fears and life experiences.
“How did you know he was masturbating over you?”
Understanding Biohacking
16:54 to 18:18
Learn about the concept of biohacking and its implications.
“It's trying to make sure that you are you for as long as you can be until you leave this the mortal coil.”
Life, Death, and Personal Reflection
18:18 to 23:16
Delve into deep personal stories about life, loss, and fears surrounding death.
“You just wear your fucking necklace and press the button.”
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Living with the Fear of Death
23:16 to 24:36
Discuss how anxiety about death impacts daily living and enjoyment.
“flipping hell, my cousin's dead and my mum's dad died and he never speaks about it.”
Living with the Fear of Death
24:49 to 27:32
Discuss how anxiety about death impacts daily living and enjoyment.
“Giacomo have every size from small all the way up to 5XL.”
Living with the Fear of Death
28:34 to 29:02
Discuss how anxiety about death impacts daily living and enjoyment.
“Uh, sorry, I think there's been a mistake.”
Russell Howard's Comedy Journey
29:08 to 34:06
Explore Russell Howard's journey in stand-up comedy and his pursuit of perfection.
“Donna Born in Roma Eau de Parfum is a feminine fragrance featuring juicy black currant, central jasmine, woody cashmere, and warm vanilla.”
Reflections on Death
34:06 to 36:35
Discuss the unique perspectives on death and creating meaningful connections.
“Five Brilliant Things we've got a quick exercise here I'm going to give you some things I want you to tell me what's so brilliant about them ready?”
British Hesitancy in Expressing Feelings
36:35 to 37:59
Examine the cultural barriers Brits face in expressing their feelings to loved ones.
“Like at my granddad's funeral, I did his eulogy.”
Russell Roulette Game
37:59 to 41:55
Participate in a light-hearted game confronting the theme of death.
“while you're here oh gosh I'll start I like you hey I didn't consent okay Yeah.”
Transcript
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2:16How do you know he's masturbating over you? Welcome to a very different episode of Blue Planet.
2:24I don't think dogs have got vagina. Oh, yeah, they do. Yeah. Do the dogs have vaginas? Your stature as an academic doctor just plummets when you say, do dogs have vaginas? I'm not a vet, you ****. I'm a doctor of the mind. Are you ready to face death? Not really. I didn't think this would be the moment. If we've just got today, it's like, well, I might as well just do heroin. That was your first choice, was it? Yeah, I would do heroin and just be an absolute... Well, actually...
3:02Oh. Hi. Thank you for stopping by my office. Welcome. This is Joe Marler Will See You Now with me, Dr. Joe Marler. This is the show where I ask probing questions to celebrities and get to the bottom of what makes them tick. At times, people might get a little bit uncomfortable, but maybe, just maybe, I can help them too. With me, as always, is my lovely assistant, Jake. Jake, how are you? I'm really good. Wow. Yeah. That was such a, like a blue steel sexy look. Well, I'm in a sexy mood. Why are you in a sexy mood? It's another day in this office. This is another day with perfect vision of those glorious set of pins, which are forever in my eye line.
3:45And also, they get a lot of love online, I have been seeing. My pins? My eye line and online. Your legs get a lot of love online, yeah. And also, the bulge in the trailer as well, people seem to enjoy. The bulge? Yeah. I'll let you into a secret, Jake. Go on. What's that? Sorry. Marbles. They're dead. What? You got rid of them? Dead marbles. Dead marbles? What? No more? Oh, no, they're still in there. Yeah, but you don't want any... No, they did the old... They chopped and burnt me, didn't they? Really? Well, you chose to do it, right? What do you mean? Well, you're describing it like a sort of medieval torture tactic.
4:24Well, it fucking felt like it. Didn't put enough of the, you know, anesthetic in the left one. And then when he went to burn the next bit, I went, Oh, God! He went, are you all right? I went, no, don't think you put enough there. and they went, oh, I'm nearly done now. It's a vasectomy, right? Vasectomy, yeah. I just thought in case we were talking about different things. Cool. And it got even further along the way. And I was thinking vasectomy and you were like, no, I just really like getting my balls burnt. It's just a thing that I really get a kick out of.
4:53You can make good money on certain websites doing that. So I've heard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you had a vasectomy joke? Have I had a vasectomy? No, no, I'm not having enough sex for that to be an issue. No, I haven't. I haven't really had any sort of major medical operations procedures. What's the worst thing that's happened to your body? Tell you what, when I was about quite old, actually, 17. Oh, here we go. I just, I had excruciating pain in the right-hand side of my stomach. Excruciating. And my mum was like, this is not usual. Like, you are in a lot of pain. We think the appendix has burst.
5:33Yeah. and they take me in and they do their x-rays and it turns out trap wind. What? You're a trap wind? You're like my brother-in-law. Well, how am I like your brother-in-law? He went to... Is he not having a lot of sex?
5:55Who have we got on the show today, Jake? A comedian, a prolific podcaster. Used to be on the telly loads, doesn't even care about it anymore. He's doing all sorts of other stuff. Great. It's Russell Howard. Huge. Who you know. I do know. Yeah, my research has extended to the fact that you've been on his podcast. Yeah, five brilliant things. And was it brilliant? It was. He was really lovely, welcoming, made me feel at ease, comfortable. I was about to ask you, how do you think his podcast differs from this one? But I think you've answered that already. Yeah. But I think in life you need light and shade.
6:28Yeah. What sort of studio was his in? King's Cross. Spiritland. Yeah, nice. And ours is London Dungeons.
6:37And we do actually have out-of-work actors popping in as various scary characters. Yeah, we do. Remember that. Remember that for later. Trust me. Trust me. This isn't podcasting. This is art. There's structure. There's narrative arc. What's your approach going to be with his unwavering positivity? I want to see how legit that positivity is. Yeah, fair. Is it a front or is there actually some worries beneath that? You can't be happy all the time, can you? No, you can't. Are you happy all the time? No. Are you happy ever? Oh, I am when I'm doing this. And when I come in in the morning and see Janet, that always brings a smile to my face.
7:31I wonder how they're getting on. Oh, God, yeah. He's with her now, yeah. Oh, no, she was in a funny mood this morning as well. Well, yeah, I think there's a bit of a funny mood in the air, actually. Hi, Janet. Yeah, no, yeah, I'm all right. Can you... Yes, fine, thanks. Yeah, it's cleared up. Can you send Russell Howard in, please? Thank you. Goodbye.
7:57Hello. I'm glad to hear it's cleared up because Janet was showing me some pretty full-on photos. Oh, no. She needs to stop doing that. Yeah, I know. Straight away. Check this out. All right, Janet, have a sit down. Welcome, Russell. There's six of them. Hello. Thank you so much for coming in. You brought your own coffee. Well, Janet made it for me. Did she? Yeah. Well, I made the coffee for Janet because she was showing me the photo. and I thought let's both have a sit down and a drink to get through this. Did you put milk in it? Nope. It's good that she didn't put milk in because the only milk she's got is her breast milk.
8:34Okay. Have you ever felt tempted to try breast milk or have you ever? I'm more than happy to push a shit down a drain of a shower with my bare hands. Yeah. But if breast milk comes anywhere near me, I'm throwing up in your face. What a fantastic answer. But what I loved about that answer is that I just mentioned something that was fairly disgusting, and you just went to 100 straight away. And it was so specific, I think you might have done that. Yes, I have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a filler, aren't you? What do you mean I'm a filler? You feel silence. Oh, yeah, I do, yes. I also want to entertain you, because I like you.
9:21So I think one of my superpowers slash illnesses is that I am pretty good at making people like me if I want to like them. So do you not try and entertain people that you don't like? No. What do you do to people that you don't like? Just I'm quiet and then I'm aware that I'm not being what they want me to be. you told me about forcing shit down a drain, which to me means that you're willing to go to places that are beyond small talk. I said, would you try breast milk? And you weren't like, you hit me back with putting shit down a drain. So instantly I'm like, oh, this is a kindred spirit. I like you.
10:04I like you, man. And I think it's time that I introduce you to my friend, Jake. Oh, he's my assistant. Hello, Jake. Hi, Russell. Really nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, man. It's just a pleasure to see you guys bonding. It really is. Bonding over? Bonding over breast milk, bonding over... What a book that is. Bonding over breast milk. Yes. Tonight on Channel 5. Yeah, it's really lovely. Do you want to say that? No, it's my friend Jason, and we keep missing each other. Well, let's take it. Jason, this has to stop. I'm in the middle of a podcast with Joe Marler, and, yeah, I'll put you on speaker.
10:40And you called me yesterday when I was in the middle of a podcast with Gavin and Stacey. So your timing is ridiculous. I'm really, really sorry. Is it Jace or Jason? Do you want to... Jason? Yeah, I actually met Joe a few weeks ago. Oh, no. Oh, really? Yeah, Clash of the Comics. I was... He was stood by me when the show was going on and I came up and chatted to him about wrestling. Okay. How are you, Jace? You all right? Right, Jace, how are you doing? I'm good, man. I've got to say, it's a hell of a turn you did on Clash I know you were really nervous before but you were excellent and I was reminded this week I'm absolutely mortified because obviously we were trying to come up with who's going to appear to take out Acast and I was arguing for Mr Blobby and then someone said no no what about Joe Marler and I was like oh god Marler, Blobby and I'm obviously delighted we went with you but I just apologise that that was ever a debate really Jason, I cannot thank you enough for your input.
11:45I'll speak to you later. See you in a bit. You are blobby. You played rugby for your country. And now... What a fucking range. God, that's funny.
12:04Russell, we ask every guest to fill out our intake questionnaire. Okay. Let's begin. Okay. Full name? Russell Joseph Howard. Joseph? Like mine? Yeah, I always struggled with the spelling of it as a kid. I always struggled too. I used to say Joe Fish. It's hard, isn't it? It's kind of phonetically, it's a tricky one. Josophepe? Imagine if you were called Siobhan.
12:31Siobhan. Queave is a crazy one from Ireland as well, because it's spelt C-A-I-M-H. I thought Queave was another word for vagina. no it's queef that's queef and a queef is the noise a vagina makes when air comes out of it yeah yeah rapidly it's queef in America because they're polite whereas in England it's a fanny fart do dogs queef? I'll look it up I don't think dogs have got vagina oh yeah they do yeah do the dogs have vaginas? your stature as an academic doctor just plummets when you say do dogs have vaginas? I'm not a vet you twat I'm a doctor of the mind yeah exactly Dogs don't queef. Dogs don't queef?
13:11Well, that sounds like a challenge.
13:18Tonight on Brainiac, they say dogs don't queef. We're going to put that to the test. Welcome to a very different episode of Blue Planet.
13:31I can do whatever I want now, so I'm answering all the questions that you want. Number one. How many monkeys can I wank off in an hour? Seriously, though, how many do you think you could? Or me or him? Oh, like, I'd strike, I mean, you'd have... Attenborough, I think he's... He's got arthritis, surely. Nah. From it. I remember years ago, I was in Thailand, and I was having a shower, and I looked out the window, and there was a monkey in the forest masturbating over me, and... How did you know he was masturbating over you? Well, if that's, yeah, I mean, you're right. Did you ask him? He said, oi, mate, who are you wanking over?
14:06No, he was there. He appeared for three days. so like a three day wank he just kept every time I was there he would just appear and on the fourth day he wasn't there and I missed him did you find yourself like sort of showering a bit more sexually oh definitely yeah I played up to it I think that's probably why day four he was like I'm out do you know what I mean occupation occupation comedian star sign Aries biggest fear biggest fear I scared of death and I don't like dancing alright okay For two days. How do you relax? At the minute, I don't relax enough. I write comedy and I perform comedy Monday to Wednesday, and then Thursday to Sunday, I'm a parent.
14:49So you're basically always on. I feel like that, and it's kind of being a parent is way harder than being a comedian. And being a comedian is pretty tricky. Any hobbies? Football. I like playing football, watching football. So I have a season ticket with Liverpool. But for me, you were born in the South West area now. It baffles all my family, but the thing is, my dad, right, was born in Witteness. So that's near Liverpool. Fucking hell. Exactly. And then basically, he sort of went from that to like, so gradually speaking like that. Is he like a proper babber? My mum is. How come you're no babber?
15:24I don't know. I just, because we moved a lot with my dad's job. Yeah. So I'm quite lucky that I kind of, oh, that's horrible. I mean, I love the accent, but it's, you know, if you heard my cousins, my cousin Jake, and they live north Somerset. Who's the MP that looks like a ghost? Margaret Thatcher. Jacob Rees-Mogg. Jacob Rees-Mogg. So, Rees-Mogg was their MP randomly, because bits of Somerset are like longleat and proper posh and all that, and a lot of Somerset is like, fucking can you believe it? So, Jacob Rees-Mogg went to open the Wetherspoons in Radstock, and my cousin Jake was like, yeah, we went down there and out and called him a cunt and that.
16:03So they kind of popped down and got to come to that. He goes, we ended up staying, great night, but some bloke had his finger blit off. And it's like, it's that thing where you go, God, what a day. A bloke, a load of misfits rock up, and then some bloke has his finger blit off. That is so good. Do you consent to being analysed? Yes. By someone who is not a real doctor? Absolutely. Please, thank you. Sign there, please. Are you right-handed? Yeah, man. Did you know that? I didn't know that. I thought he'd be lefty. Okay. Right, from that opening questionnaire, what I think we need to work on today is that I want to help you understand and become more comfortable with your own mortality.
16:48You've mentioned a fear of death. Are you happy to proceed? More than happy. Well, let's get into it then, shall we? Mm-hmm.
17:00let's dig into the fear of dying now we've read quite a lot in his file haven't we jake yeah it's loaded with this this term biohacking yes biohacking yeah what the fuck's that i mean we live in a world of new words you know so it's kind of it's basically trying to live forever it's kind of what it means but it's called by in a similar way like overnight oats is just cold porridge. Do you know what I mean? I'm polyamorous. You're a shagat. But it's that thing of like trying to kind of maximize your time on earth so that you are you for as long as possible before you peg it rather than being, you know, a burden and dying slowly for the last 10 years of your life.
17:46It's trying to make sure that you are you for as long as you can be until you leave this the mortal coil. So I kind of like the idea of that. What sort of biohacking do you do? I went for a weird phase of like, you know, buying pills and potions and doing all this kind of stuff. And the funny thing being is that my wife is an actual doctor. What do you mean by the emphasis of actual in this context? But you're not selling me tablets online and I'm not buying those tablets and then trying to keep those tablets hidden from my wife who goes what are you taking now okay and then like she caught me wearing a wellness necklace once which was a real like and it was a wellness necklace but it was this thing that i wore and it was so funny so it was during it was during covid and there was this thing you could wear and if you press the button on it gave your body the same vibrational energy as if you'd drunk wine or smoked weed or eaten uh like cacao and it was this whole idea of like you don't need to go to the, you don't need to buy drinks at the pub.
18:53You just wear your fucking necklace and press the button. Yeah, I know. So, and it was like, it was, it was like a grand and a half. And I was like, that's a bit of me. Bump. And then you get it on and you, you know, and you're kind of like that. And your wife catches you and we're just talking instant regret where you're like, what's this? What are we dealing with here? And you're like, that's my necklace. She's like, what does it do?
19:17Sorry, was it getting tighter and tighter? Why are you doing that? You know that thing where you just, you can feel with every word you say, like the universe just pulling all the intelligence out of you as this kind of creature stands before you and you try and explain why you've done something. Jake, can you look up other methods of biohacking? Yeah, I've been having a look. So we've got a little list of biohacking techniques that the internet seem to love. I want to know if you've done them. And actually, Joe, as well, if you would consider doing these as well. So we'll go quick fire. Intimate and fasting.
19:54Yep. Worth doing? Yep, definitely worth doing. Yep. Helps your body basically, I think it's autophagy. So your body has time to deal with actual problems rather than constantly digesting food. Going vegan, cutting out all meat, all red meat. Well, the problem with that is a lot of people have tried it because you watch these documentaries that make you feel terrible. And it's like, this is how they make burgers. This is how we kill chickens. And then you try and go vegan. And you then realize that that's also, unless you just eat vegetables, bollocks. If you're eating like actual vegan meat, it's the worst thing you can do for you.
20:34So it's kind of, I don't know, you sort of come out the other side and just think if you eat proper food, it's kind of good for you. Final one. Maybe you know about this guy because you're into biohacking. This billionaire, Brian Johnson. He's a fucking lunatic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolute madness. What's Brian Johnson done? He is a billionaire who's now using all his money to basically... What I like about how Russell described it was it's about trying to be you for longer. This guy actually just wants to live forever. But the thing he's doing is injecting himself with the plasma from the blood of his son to keep him youthful.
21:07Yeah. What? Yeah, crazy. The problem with him is that it's sort of, if you look into his eyes, his eyes are so old and so sad. Yeah, they're so sad. So why does he want to live longer? If he's old and sad, just fucking... But he's terrified, clearly. Like, he is so frightened. There is a heaven in the future I can see where I'm at my son's wedding and I see my son's child and it's... It must be off the scale. I can't imagine what that feels like to see a grandchild. I know what it feels like to have a son, and that is overwhelming, and you feel bestowed with a happiness that you never thought you would get.
21:48So to get that must be a different level. So I want to be me so I can try and get there. He just wants to look hot. Yeah, yeah. And kind of so that people go, oh my God, you look like you're 30, and he's like, actually, I'm 75. So it just feels it's pointless vanity, and it's just vanity. rather than I want to be me for as long as possible to be with people I like rather than... Where does this fear of death come from? I think... Because we're all dying. Yeah, I think my dad's mum died when he was 17 and my cousin died when he was 18. So I was eight when that happened. Fucking hell. and I obviously knew the story of my mum and my dad.
22:37We were never really allowed to speak about it. So it was like those were these two and he was like the first boy of the cousins and there was a picture of him. He did a motorbike scrambling race just before he died and he had cancer and he completed this race and my granddad would point at this photo and he was like, that's bravery like you have never seen. He's the bravest boy I did ever see and it was like, it kind of makes me kind of choke up a bit because it was this point of pride and determination and sadness and I remember seeing all my relatives crying and my mum crying just suddenly going, oh God.
23:14So I think it sort of started then of like, flipping hell, my cousin's dead and my mum's dad died and he never speaks about it. And then at Christmas he goes away and he starts a fire and he's sad and we never see his sadness. So it always feels like it was kind of, it was around then I'd wake up in the dead of night and start punching walls because I was going to die, which I still do. Do you worry, though, that having that anxiety about death is going to stop you actually living? You know what I mean? If you're constantly worried about, oh, fuck, you forget to actually live and enjoy today. I know that old cliche, but we have only actually got today.
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23:56Yeah, you're right. But then I guess you are completely right. The problem is how do you put that obvious knowledge into the… So if we've just got today, it's like, well, I might as well just do heroin and… That was your first choice, was it? Yeah, I would do heroin and just be an absolute… Well, actually… If we're both on the same page… But how do you, that's my point. How do you do, how are you able to enjoy this, but also plan because I have a tour to do and I want that show to be really good for people. And like, you know what I mean? It's kind of, I think it's about finding purpose. I think that's probably the way to get around it.
24:43Right, before we go any further, let's have a big shout out to our sponsor this week, Giacomo. Giacomo have every size from small all the way up to 5XL. Everyone's included, whether you're a big unit like me or a tiny little specimen like Jake. Speaking of fashion and gorgeous boys, you looked very gorgeous on that Traitor. You know the Traitor's Finale where you wore that jacket? Oh, yeah. Tell me the story behind that. I mean, was that... Did you have a stylist or where did that come from? I actually wanted to wear a really leery 1960s wallpaper tracksuit. And the stylist was like, it's more of a smart vibe, Joe.
25:30Like, it's a finale and you're just going to turn up in your tracksuit. And I went, yeah. They were like, no, no, no, no. We've got something for you. And they come out and they bring this massive brown leather jacket. Yeah. and I went alright that's a bit of me it was hot and rugged hot and rugged I wonder if Mrs Marler said Joe bring that bring that from the castle and back to the home for the record no she didn't because it doesn't really matter because it's always lights off oh is it really so it doesn't matter what I'm wearing oh I knew you were romantic so you if you were to dress up for your wife yeah what would the outfit be well actually it's quite similar to the the finale jacket I've got a movie quality Bane outfit you're serious yeah movie like proper like that's why it's lights off I was born in the dark
26:36you merely adopted I was born in it All right, love. It's me, it's me. Honestly, it's me. It's not going to be a kissing night.
26:53But I think that's, yeah, anything that Tom Hardy's been in should be inclined to make me dress up. So it's always lights off, clothes on. Very much so. Well, I think you need to do a bit of shopping at Giacomo because they're going to have everything you could ever wear. Anything that Tom Hardy's ever worn probably will be sold by Giacomo because they've got all the brands. Name them. Polo, Ralph Lauren, Boss, Adidas, Calvin Klein, Berghaus, Under Armour, New Balance, Lacoste, all of them. They're all there. Wow. They actually do. Yeah, I mean, I'll go shopping with you if you want. Do it separately.
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29:36you touched on always being on earlier that you you struggle to relax you're always on the go yeah you've got an unbelievable work ethic something like have you sold two what was it two million tickets we've got two million tickets across your career you sold is that right wow yeah two million tickets yeah it's crazy isn't it I don't know how that came out but yeah I've done I've done all sorts so we basically did I've been doing stand-up since 1998. That's when I did my first ever gig. So, but then also, it's probably how you felt when you found, I don't know if it is actually, but when you find rugby, you kind of go, oh, well, that's what I'll do.
30:15And it was a bit like, I found football when I was 10. I was like, well, that's what I'm going to do all the time. And then I kind of found comedy. I sort of got interested when I was 16. So I've been doing it since then. Are you running from something? or are you chasing a buzz? I'm chasing a buzz. I'm chasing perfection. And like, I'm chasing that show or that kind of album that is so, you know, there's a comic, Bill Hicks had a, there was an album called Arizona Bay. I would say that, or like Dylan Moran's Monster or Eddie Izzard's definite article. Those kind of like, like forever funny. Maybe I'm chasing that.
30:56But do you genuinely think that's achievable? Or do you think you're always? I do. That's the annoying thing. The kind of, the egomaniac in me, like, thinks that I can do this kind of like, you know, particularly live. I can kind of get people in a pocket and just be on it and really funny. It's that weird thing, I think, down the years doing TV. I think because my face is so kind of like, I mean, it's obviously now, I look like a pickled onion, but as a younger man. Sorry. You think you look like a pickled onion? Well, when I was sort of, inadvertently, I think when I was sort of about 26, I was quite a pretty young boy.
31:34And I looked a bit boy bandy and all that. And I think that, and I understand, that would be fucking annoying to see this kind of chirpy, hey, hello. And I think people are very often put off by my face. But if I can get them in the room, I can win them over. I don't see that. You're lovely looking. Yeah, but that's a different thing. You don't look like a pickled onion. I like pickled onions. Okay. I don't think you look like one of them. But again, this is the thing, isn't it? Of like your self-perception is, how we perceive ourselves is a really interesting thing. And most comics have, that I know, have this kind of dual thing of thinking.
32:15I mean, you have to have like a sort of weird confidence to go, I think I'm really funny. But then you also have this crippling self-doubt of like, well, I'm shit. And you kind of oscillate between these two things. and weirdly those two skills make you good because I think if you were like, I know I'm great all the time, you'd be shit. But it is that thing where you can have a gig and friends of yours will be like, oh, that was good. And I'll be like, it was absolute wank what you took, and real fucking shit. But that annoyingly is how you kind of get better. What about other highs in your career?
32:51You've sold over 2 million tickets, you've had great sellout tours. but you also were named as Heat Magazine's 2013 Weirdest Crush. Yes. You were one. John Richardson was two. No, the Stig was two. The guy who wears a helmet? Yeah, the guy with no face. So it shows you the competition I was up against. Okay, but you won number one. I did, yeah. How did that make you feel? Awful. What? Well, because you're the nation's petty fuck. It's kind of... And it's that thing of like, you know, I don't want to get too kind of manosphere. But can you imagine a world in which Heat magazine had gone, hey, here's the weird crush for women.
33:35That had been fucking outrage. But it's sort of like you just have to take that as a compliment and go, you know, women go, I would have sex with you, but I'd feel weird for doing it. I'm ashamed that I like you physically. So, yeah, that's kind of, again, it sort of plays into this, what? I'm the weird crush I've won
34:05Right your podcast Five Brilliant Things we've got a quick exercise here I'm going to give you some things I want you to tell me what's so brilliant about them ready? Yeah yeah Stand up comedy What's brilliant about it is that it's as far from creativity through committee that you can get if you have a thought you can explore it and the audience acts as this phenomenal jury and they let you know how and if it's funny and laughter is like this beautiful societal orgasm and it can make people kind of convulse and be together it's the best and it's a mechanism through which you can do life because if something awful or weird or peculiar or happy happens you have this kind of outlet where you can talk about your thoughts with strangers and feel less mad.
34:52God, that's a good answer. If I do say so myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's huge. Bristol. What's great about Bristol? It's a really great, big, little city. It offers so much, but it doesn't feel too vast that it's sort of scary or... Well, there are bits I'm not doing. It feels like you can do every bit of it. Piers Morgan. What's brilliant about him, it teaches you, let me say a real test, that you can... Like, if there's always money to be made if you're willing to put your identity in an easily manipulated economic area. Global warming. What's brilliant about global warming is it has given Greta Thunberg something to do.
35:52And it means people who make wheelie bins can now make green ones and blue ones. Serial killers. They have given entertainment to white middle-class women. And in some cases, they've given them the phrase murderina, which means, you know, if you're into sort of true crime, you call it murderino, which is a really cute name for being into something proper grizzly. Do you know what I mean? Finally, death. The only good thing about death is you get to say, well, hopefully you get to say farewell to people you adore and try and find words to sum up how much they mean to you. Maybe that's the only good thing.
36:35Like at my granddad's funeral, I did his eulogy. and I worked really hard on that to try and sum up. I'm not sure I necessarily did it but it's quite a good exercise to kind of try and write. It's sad in it that we only get to write eulogies for people when they're gone rather than being able to kind of tell them what they mean to us. Yeah, but you... But because... You don't have to. You can actually tell people. But if you're British, it's that weird thing of like I better not tell that person who I love how much I love them in case they think I'm a dick. That's fucking weird, isn't it? But in it, it's sort of that, it's that odd.
37:12And I sort of get this, I've talked to a friend of mine who's a singer and we kind of like, we met at a charity football game and I really liked his music. I was so nervous to say, I really like your music, by the way, because you just carry this kind of weird British weight upon you that everyone will think I'm a dick so I better not say anything, I'll just sit in the corner. And then arrogance and shyness look exactly the same and you sort of realise you're something that has to click in you to kind of go right I will go over and I'll say I like his music and that's done you must have that as well you must have met people where you just go why can't I there is this horrible inbuilt British thing in us that you're like they'll think I'm a dick maybe you guys could tell each other how you feel about each other now while you're here oh gosh I'll start I like you hey I didn't consent okay Yeah.
38:10It's been a lot of ground cover today. In my quest to help you come to terms with morality. Mortality.
38:21We were talking about queefing dogs.
38:27It's definitely a grey area. There's one final exercise I would like you to take part in. Okay. And the final exercise I've got for you is... Russell Roulette!
38:47Right then. What happens? Are you ready to face death? Wow. Not really. I didn't think this would be the moment. Can I not call my wife? Send a message to my son? No, apparently not. Yeah, I'm going to face death. I've thought about it. Jake, are we allowing phone calls? No, I don't think we've got time for it. Bring in Grim. Welcome, Grim. Oh, hello.
39:16Yeah. Wow. Hello, death. I didn't know we'd done face paint as well. Well, I'll tell you what. What's really interesting is that who knew death wore glasses? Yeah, yeah, totally. That makes complete sense.
39:36Russell, are you ready for... Russell Roulette! I am, yes. All right, let's set up Russell Roulette then. How are you feeling, Russell? Pretty good. How are you feeling, death? Great, silent type. This works by taking it in turns to take a sip from each of these bottles. Four contain the elixir of life, also known as water. One bottle contains the elixir of death, also known as fish sauce.
40:12Russell, you will be going first. Okay. Well, as a nod to the way the world is going, I'm going to go for the far right.
40:24It's water. Congratulations, Russell. You have survived. For now. Death, your turn.
40:43Water. The elixir of life. Congratulations, Death. You have survived for now. Russell. Straight down the middle.
40:59That's a nice bit of water. Tying with us. Well played. Congratulations. You've become Claudia Winkleman. Death. There's only two bottles left. And my maths tells me that's 50-50. Choose.
41:35Russell, congratulations. You beat death. All right.
41:44I believe now, because you've conquered death, you can go forth with a slight reduction in fear of death. Thank you. Which will come to us all. Yes. Before you go, we're going to give you a badge. Oh, great. Just to remind you of your session. Thank you. Jake, have we got a badge? We decided that we want you to live. We know you like to laugh. And we want to enforce live. So it's live, laugh, live. Oh, great. The three L's. There you go. Thank you. Also, you get a lolly. Oh, thanks, man. I'm going to go for a red one, if I may. Red? Thanks, man. Usually signals danger. Yeah, but also it's the colour of Liverpool shirt.
42:27Thank you. You'll never walk alone. Oh, there you go. My man. Go forth. Thank you. That's all Howard. Yay! Nice job. Bye-bye-bye-bye. If you want to join the Doctor's Waitlist, please subscribe to our YouTube channel and follow us on Instagram at we'll see you now show. Remember, unless it's not clear enough already, I'm not a real doctor. If you need any professional help, you'll find a link to great support services on our Instagram. I've been Joe Marla, and this has been Joe Marla, we'll see you now, presented by Giacomo. Bye-bye. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.
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Joe welcomes comedian and podcaster Russell Howard into the consulting room for a session that starts with a light chat about monkeys pleasuring themselves, before escalating to heavier topics like the inevitability of death.
Russell’s trademark positivity is put under the microscope as he opens up about work, ambition, grief, and the anxiety that comes with constantly chasing the perfect show. Along the way, Joe does what he does best, offering wildly unqualified psychological insight, steering conversations into deeply inappropriate territory, and blurring the line between therapy and absolute nonsense.
What lengths is Russell going to in order to prolong his life? Can Joe help him overcome his fear of death? And do dogs have vaginas? Believe it or not, these are all legitimate questions raised (and to an extent answered) on this week’s episode.
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