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2:02Today's gaming news stories include Sony canceled Fizzit over a Zoom call, Kojima's not sure whether the game's coming to PlayStation, and Bungie says more Destiny is coming. We'll have all this and more because this is Kind of Funny Games Daily.

2:22what's up and welcome to kind of funny games daily for monday september 21st 2026 of course i'm your host tim guddy's i'm joined today by blessing adioe jr bless how

2:32Blessing Adeoye Jr.:was your weekend weekend was good tim very chill very nice good watched a movie last night that i can never remember the name of it's called the devil something something but it stars prada no uh it stars tom holland and robert pattinson and bill skarsgard what a cast what i don't know this And there's a fourth person, too, Sebastian Stan. What? You're making this up? Dude, I learned that this movie existed yesterday because I was hanging out with my friends. The devil all the time. The devil all the time. Is it good? No. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But my friend, so I was hanging out with my friend Sarah and my friend Meg yesterday, and we were just talking about Robert Pattinson because we're very excited for this primetime movie coming up.

3:10You see those shots of the Batman that came out this weekend? Oh, no, I didn't see that. Yeah? Oh, his cape is just flying behind him, dude. It is. It's fire.

3:18Blessing Adeoye Jr.:I admittedly I wasn't in love with the Batman I wasn't either I'm but I I am in love with Robert Pattinson more in love now than I was then so I am looking forward to Batman 2 I haven't seen it since theaters and I full 10 toes down loved Penguin so Penguin was awesome yeah I feel like I'll appreciate the Batman more I feel like when it came out there was it the hype was so real reminds me of Force Awakens where every piece of marketing was pitch perfect going into it yeah that just the expectations were through the roof and i think having the direct comparison to the nolan trilogy put it in a bad place for a first viewing for me so i do feel if i watched it now i probably enjoyed a lot more than i did that not that i didn't like it i actually really really liked it i just didn't love it yeah and i'm in the exact same place as you are but yeah we were talking about pattinson and then my friend sarah is like oh yeah i remember watching this movie with pattinson and holland and all this stuff we me and her were having an argument actually because my argument it was um i think we were talking about tom holland versus i want to say it was pattinson and i was like oh pattinson acts circles around tom holland and sarah's like i don't know like she was very much in tom holland defense mode and i'm like i like tom holland he's a great spider-man i don't know if i'm on the in the train of oh he's a great actor overall he's a great actor he's not an amazing actor i guess in my opinion my personal opinion and she was like you watch this movie then we watched it together and we were all like ah never mind we were all like yeah we're like so funny this movie was so mid she thought it was way better than it was but it was still a fun time i recommend watching it just for a just for like a different kind of movie was this one of those russo directed joints where like during the pandemic they just had money we looked up the director and we hadn't heard of any of the director's movies i i want to say it was a netflix joint so i think they were just they were just looking to put something on uh in the catalog that would bring in subscribers but like it was very clear that you couldn't afford these people for an entire movie because they don't show up until halfway through the movie that's not even a spoiler but like yeah it was tough it was a tough yeah oh i'm sorry bless wasn't great for the holland argument but i still love him that's my spider-man you gotta love it i'm excited for this fred astaire thing he has coming up because that i think is putting his real talents to work they're doing a Fred Astaire movie and it's gonna be Tom Holland and he's like I don't want any stunt devil I'm gonna do all the tap dancing myself okay I'm like good for you Tom I like it tap your heart away I just need him to I need him to bring an adult energy that's the problem he's too he's too kitty for me yeah where's my dad you know that's always him in Odyssey where's my dad I'm like yeah sure was I need some more bravado sure was oh bless where's my dad if you watch it live be part of the show by super chatting on youtube.com slash kind of funny games we couldn't do this without our producers over on patreon.com slash kind of funny so thank you to omega buster delaney the psalm twining and michael pesavento for now let's begin with what is and forever will be the roper report it's time for some news we have six stories today

6:27story number one hideo kojima says sony canceled fizzin over a zoom call and claims he still doesn't know the reason why. This comes from Ethan Gatch at Kotaku. It was a shock to fans when earlier this month PlayStation suddenly announced on X that it would no longer be publishing Fizzint. Hideo Kojima, the mastermind behind the new spiritual successor to Metal Gear Solid, says he was just as confused and surprised when Sony first delivered the news to him privately back in June. He says his mind immediately went blank and he still doesn't know why the PS5 maker dropped his game. Quote, so in June, SIE said they wanted to have a Zoom call.

7:00I was so busy at that time i'd just gone to new york for a prada event and then to la right after he said in a new interview with ign but anyway i came back and we had the zoom call they said they can no longer fund development for fizzin i was shocked and i say what did you say i couldn't quite process what they had said i wasn't sure because i was in shock kojima productions employs roughly 200 people and the veteran game developer said he immediately started thinking about all the implications of the deal falling through including problems with bank loans and the need to potentially lay off tons of people who had been hired to work specifically on Fizzin, an espionage thriller that Kojima says will be a movie as well as a game.

7:36He continued, nothing could have prepared me for the decision to step away from the project. So I thought, what am I going to do from tomorrow? From my side, I love Sony and I don't have any bad feelings against them because I know it's a tough time in the video game industry. I've worked, I've been working with them for like 30 years. Mr. Ken Kutaragi, Mr. Harai, I was close with them, but it's not like that recently. I realized that, okay, this is the reality it's the 10th anniversary of my studio my studio might collapse right kojima was in the call with kojima productions president shinji harano and head of talent development aki saito but wouldn't say who was there on sony's side and whether it was playstation studios had herman holst who delivered the news to him the three kept the news to themselves at first kojima said that sorry kojima even said that the first thing he did after the meeting was go back and continue working on new pieces of the concept for phyzzant the corporate structure of sie is different from the Jim Ryan days, he said, but this was a project that we were both excited about and mutually agreed on.

8:30So because of that, the shock was even bigger in June. While Kojima Productions eventually landed a deal to continue making the game under Xbox, Kojima says he still doesn't know why Sony made the sudden decision to abandon the project. They haven't contacted me ever since, but I'm not fighting with Sony. We're not in a dispute, but what I want to say is that we've been together for 30 years and we have this relationship. So if this was the conclusion, I would have wanted to hear it a little earlier but that meeting in june they just gave us the final notice bloomberg previously reported that part of the reasoning for sony backing out of fizzin had to do with it going over budget and missing deadlines that's training too also apparently didn't sell as well as sony hoped and with the console maker backing away from pc fizzin would have to sell well only on playstation hardware to make up costs a changing of the guard at sony also reportedly played a role in the collaboration coming undone there's so much here ign's interview took place before bloomberg's report was published, but Kojima Productions has now responded to a new statement calling on people to take it with a dose of skepticism and claiming that its relationship with Sony is still strong.

9:30You may have seen a recent article that mentions Kojima Productions speculating on the reasons for the change in publishing partners for Fizzit. Normally, we would not comment on its unsubstantiated speculation on the internet, but these aspirations around our relationship with PlayStation, the commercial performance of the Death Stranding franchise, and the broader production planning investment for Fizzit have reached beyond the studio and have touched our fans, creative partners, and colleagues. We have worked alongside with them for three decades. None of the claims written came from any official or on-the-record source, and as such, we encourage you to take them with a dose of skepticism.

10:00Make no mistake, this was a serious situation for the studio with a range of potentially significant implications. While we recognize that the article may have caused alarm, we want to reassure you, for the record, that the studio's in a healthy, profitable state, development for Fizzing continues to move forward with Xbox, and our relationship with PlayStation remains strong. and then everybody you thought it might be over there was in fact an update from the one and only jason schreier who said i saw the statement from kojima productions today it doesn't dispute any of our reporting so i don't have much to add there but i will add that as i said a couple weeks ago the fizz and cancellation came after several months of negotiations between koji pro and sony it wasn't exactly out of nowhere wow where do you want to start bliss man haven't we all been there

10:44Blessing Adeoye Jr.:where we're like on our relationship still strong i know we went through a breakup it was tough it was whatever but like we're still friends we're still friends motherfuckers ain't friends we just we saw it we're seeing it happen in real time um i think the i don't know man this this whole thing is messy in a way where i'm like reading the statement from kojima productions I don't really know I don't know why you put out that statement aside from oh man these reports are making it seem like we take a long time to make video games and we spend a lot of money so we have to make sure that our reputation isn't just that.

11:23Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Granted I feel like everybody kind of knows that Kojima Productions you take a long time and you spend a lot of money granted like I don't I think for a AAA studio it's like every triple a studio takes a long time i'm actually pretty impressed by how i'm impressed by the fact that we've gotten two death strandings in the last person independent team right and granted this is one of those situations where like all video games we know it's not just 200 people there are so many support studios but on top of that they have had the backing of playstation they now have the backing of xbox so it's not like they're just like this tiny tiny little thing but the projects they're working on are as triple a as it gets yes exactly and so i i think the statement is just put out there to save face and make sure your reputation isn't tarnished or turned into something that you don't want it to be well they're also at a very tumultuous spot right now where i mean they were talking about potentially having to lay off significant portions of the team and like xbox came in but it's like they're still in a place right now where it's like they they need as much interest from the money makers and uh the money havers i guess as possible uh right now so yeah anything kojima saying i am not surprised however i do think it is hilarious that jason straight up came in it was just like they didn't dispute anything i said they just said hey man it's not an official source yeah they didn't say it's not true yeah they didn't say that at all what is do you have any takes on this i feel like i i read all this i'm kind of just like nodding my head along like yeah no this all sounds about right this is happening exactly the way i imagined it happened i mean i i think that there's a lot here that it really all comes down to at the end of the day there's corporations there is creative and then there's just people and all three of those things oftentimes involve the same people different people relationships between people beef from years ago there's so much that goes into to all of it that like this is how kojima felt he felt he got broken up on a zoom call and he's upset about that but he's trying to be like i'm upset but we're still cool kojima's still good don't worry again not surprised by anything that's happening there do i think it's a little bizarre do i think that it's a little unnecessary sure which part uh coming out with like i think over explaining all this okay you know i think that we're kind of in a place right now where i don't want to say less is more in terms of the communication and like the over sharing of like your thoughts and feelings about where this is all at but i do think that no matter what we know the era we're in of discourse when it comes to video games and we see all these uh the the top the leaders making so many horrible calls of that lead to layoffs and lead to games getting canceled and lead to studios closing and lead to all that stuff and while all that's happening there's the culture warriors out there trying to like pick apart every single thing and turn every single news item into weird talking points for stupid wars that then end up leading to like more problems in video games when all that's happening it's not great to hear even though i fully understand and see the value in kojima going to prada things in paris and la yeah it's like it is a funny detail when things are going on and things are really bad and kojima's talking about that it's kind of like i don't know man like just just just don't just don't but having said that homie got broken up with man i get it yeah and like you got jason schreier on your ass oh yeah and like i wouldn't wish that hell on anybody but i also don't think jason schreier didn't say anything that made kojima the production seem like the bad guys in the scenario like i watched his whole video i read the bad guys but i mean here he is calling him out being like that's not true he's saying that kojima's lying yeah but like even if it is true who cares like that's my thing is you watch the schreier video and schreier is talking about missed deadlines and budgets and how playstation doesn't want to like doesn't want to deal with that or how they've playstation ever since concord has kind of upped their um not restrictions but i guess their how much they want to pay attention to how much are we spending are you living up to your deadlines if you're not on point then we got to figure out how to get you on point or we're going to cancel or do something to shift the project like we're not we're not going to suffer another concord is essentially where playstation's at i think it's more of a playstation issue than a kojima issue oh absolutely the thing that sucks for the coach the thing the place where i feel for kojima here in the breakup is that you know separate from a relationship but maybe sometimes say i'll keep it i'll keep the relationship metaphor going you know you date somebody for a while and sometimes the person who you met 10 years ago is different from the person who you're with now and that might be a real thing that's why they talk about in relationships you got to continue to recommit to the person that you're with the playstation that kojima committed to with andrew house and sean laden and shuhei yoshida is not the playstation in 2026 the playstation in 2026 looks at death training 2 and goes ooh that didn't sell as much as maybe we wanted to and that game stars norman reedus and that game is being directed by kojima and has this crazy level of fidelity we made an engine for this game yada yada yada this game is not doing what we wanted to do and now we're looking at and we're looking at the fact that kojima wants this thing to star bill skarsgard we're looking at the fact that he's not hitting the deadlines which is a normal thing and this is me referencing the jason schreier video specifically right triple a studios oftentimes miss deadlines um and is that of thing you got to deal with yes is the way of dealing with it canceling the project in my opinion sure if you're ready for the fan backlash but i don't think that was the right move from the playstation side but again different playstation you've upped your your your uh level of i guess restrictions on how much how much leniency you want these studios to have i feel completely for kojima in this but like yeah because schreier's gonna look into this schreier's gonna speak the truth and you can defend yourself oh yeah yeah all that yeah all of that like just to be clear of what i was saying i'm saying that kojima is claiming that he didn't know about this until a zoom call and shara's like that's not the case sure you know that that's the only i think uh why that kojima is saying here everything else he's just like hey maybe like those things aren't substantiated is all that it comes down to they're not from an official source is all he's saying he's not saying they're not happening he's not saying anything and that's i think that's the thing that's like i don't think that's worth getting ahead of as far as oh it was the zoom call or whatever because i again we know people we know how humans work like yeah to kojima it was the zoom call to playstation they're like you've been telling you this exactly and then that's that is i think the the overall point here but you were bringing up the the long relationship and like people change in the relationship metaphor yeah over time changes and you were saying playstation chains and that is true clearly i mean look at it we we talk about it every day about how much playstation is faltering in our eyes compared to how much we thought that they were absolutely destroying and making the majority of the right moves 10 years ago right yeah um but even that like fizzing like it was hervin holst next to him when they did that whole big thing like it wasn't that long ago that they committed to this project they announced it and then they blew it out with the whole studios drone shot and all that stuff it's like yes a lot has changed but it's like it's not all man the relationship showered over 10 years and it's not the people it's not the Andrew house sure it's not at your house but this does feel very similar to the double fine and how they got fucked over by game pass but this is just Kojima getting fucked over by PlayStation you don't go to Tim Schafer and say hey I want your team to make artsy games because we're not looking for selling we're looking for gameplay time and fun on the game on game pass and then later be like well that wasn't working so sorry and then here's the same thing hey kojima we want you to do a spiritual successor to metal gear we know what that means yeah we know exactly what that means and everyone listening knows exactly what that means and then oh shit conquered fail hey we're not gonna do that anymore and it's like i get the business of it all i get the numbers yeah but fuck you oh yeah no i i'm so critical of playstation for this decision for the fact of you didn't need to green light the game you know what i mean you know what you're getting into you've worked with kojima for two first party projects now and in the last even in the last year things have shifted playstation's not putting out games on pc anymore and i know that's a big part of this but it's like dog you announced this to the world you did the zoom out of the studio you did everything guess what you're fucked you're in the relationship now and if you cancel it that's on you divorce it's a divorce it's no longer a breakup and you have to deal with friend drama of oh man i really liked that guy and how do i you know how much did i like him all that bullshit it's like no no no you put a fucking ring on you put a ring on it expensive you gotta figure out how to separate bank accounts now yeah you should have never greenlit fizzit if like this was going if this was a chance of happening you should not have greenlit it story number two today kojima doesn't know if fizzit will be xbox exclusive and i'm sure xbox loves him talking about this this comes from eddie at game spot in a big twist so he dropped kojima's new spy game fizzit with xbox swooping in to pick it up but will fizzit be exclusive to Xbox.

20:34Kojima himself said in a new interview with IGN that he does not know. Quote, that'd be a question for Xbox, but I don't know for sure. Under former Xbox CEO Phil Spencer's leadership, Microsoft began releasing some of its major games and rival platforms, even Halo's on PlayStation today. We get all that. In previous updates from Xbox, I thought that they have this kind of stance where they want to deliver as many games as possible no matter what the platform is, Kojima said. Oh no. I think all of that will be announced at a later time. I'm not sure yet. I can't really say. a lot of people play on pc oh my god oh my god the game's not coming to playstation if it's up

21:10Blessing Adeoye Jr.:to xbox the game's not coming to playstation i mean yeah and for what xbox's plan is right now i think that's probably the right decision like you get a game like fizzant you as xbox i think the plan is fizzant uh elder scrolls 6 like whatever the biggest titles that we can do that we can uh do this with that aren't named call of duty because call of duty is caught up in the battle and also i think call gd just needs release everywhere for money um should probably be exclusive if you want to try and bring back the xbox box the platform as the forefront of how you want to market this brand so probably gonna be exclusive oh yeah yeah if it happens we'll see i love this is like man just let let kojima go away for a second man don't be asking him all these questions right now he's going he loves to talk i know he wants to do the interviews he wants to be ahead of it i'm sure i don't think i'm ahead of it i'll be honest i don't think xbox is that mad at this you don't think xbox is mad at them in the the peak of this whole conversation about exclusives and the way that we're all talking about xbox because it's a disaster yeah the question of like is it coming to playstation putting them because guess what happens asha loves to talk yeah she fucking loves to talk she sees this oh it's a it's a place it's Xbox exclusive.

22:27It ain't coming to PlayStation. And then let's wait a couple years to just see what happens. What they're waiting for is to be able to put it in a showcase.

22:35Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Fizz in trailer, and then only on Xbox, right? That's what they're waiting for. I don't think they mind speculation. They love talking, man. I think they want people to speculate. I think they want people to be like, is it coming to PlayStation? That way, when they say no, it'll be that much spicier. I think that's where Xbox is at right now. Xbox is trying to punch back. Oh, yeah. I think they're I think they love, especially because it's Kojima. The more Kojima says the word Xbox, i think they're fucking elated oh man we are in what a world bless i god damn world i just love that this means the game is coming to pc because that's gonna be hot playing this on ultra wide crank up them settings dlss5 whatever that means andy can explain it to me oh man well that's all the kojima talk for today i think who knows at any moment he could say something yeah unless he comes out and says some other wild shit but before we get to story number three here's a word from our sponsors this episode's brought to you by shape of dreams shape of dreams is a fast-paced action roguelite that combines hack and slash combat with moba inspired teamwork and endless build possibilities take on the dream world solo or jump into four-player co-op with crossplay so you can team up with friends across pc and consoles each run gives you new skills and upgrades to combine, letting you create completely different builds, discover powerful team synergies, and change the way you play every time.

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29:13Blessing Adeoye Jr.:out there oh paul tassie's fist tweeting this is awesome for him so actually i don't want to read from the ign article okay i want to read directly from bungee's blog post uh this was like sort of breaking as we we've been going live um and so there have been a lot of details about it that i was able to kind of pull during the the ad break there but i think bungee's blog specifically might be better to read from i can read from it tim if you go for it sick all right they posted this morning hey y 'all poria and josh here for those who don't know i'm poria torkin bungie's studio head and i'm josh dean head of product and general manager of marathon together we are responsible for leading bungie and shaping the future of our games i should also mention that the name of this blog post is the next chapter for bungie today we want to talk candidly about where bungie is where destiny and marathon need to go and how we intend to earn back your trust This is not only an update on our immediate plans, it is the beginning of a more consistent conversation about the future of our games in our studio.

30:07Blessing Adeoye Jr.:First and foremost, we recently sat down to talk through the current state of Bungie and share our vision for the future. The video shares our perspective on where Bungie is today and where we want it to go. Below, we're adding more detail on what that direction means for Destiny, Marathon, and how we intend to communicate about our progress. Where Bungie is today. Bungie has been creating games for over 30 years, and we have welcomed the communities that have formed around them. Over the last few years, we lost sight of that, and there have been real consequences. We lost trust, we lost incredible colleagues, and we lost sight of what we should be prioritizing most, our players.

30:39Blessing Adeoye Jr.:As a new leadership team, we must own that. We aren't just listening to feedback, we understand your disappointment. We are not asking you to trust what we say today. We know that trust must be earned through the quality of our games, the decisions we make, and how consistently we show up for our players. Destiny is foundational to our future. Bungie would not be what it is today without Destiny and the vibrant community that has rallied around it for more than a decade. When we announced that Monuments of Triumph would be the final content update to Destiny 2, you responded in force. Your voices mattered, and the way you showed up made a real impact.

31:13Blessing Adeoye Jr.:We reminded everyone how much this world, its history, and its future still means to you. Destiny is foundational to Bungie's future. we have more stories to tell new worlds to build but we have to do it right and give our teams the time they need to do justice to this amazing universe all this to say we are not done with destiny and they bolded that we want to return destiny to its original promise to recapture the qualities that have always made it special the awe-inspiring mystery meaningful discovery and a community of guardians coming together against impossible odds that begins with restoring important parts of destiny 2's history that players can no longer experience today we We understand that removing these experiences had a lasting impact on player trust and enjoyment of Destiny.

31:55Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Destiny 2 is more than just the content itself, it is a place where players have built memories together, formed lasting friendships, and shared experiences that have stayed with them for years. We cannot change the decision we made, but we can acknowledge its impact and do the work to make it right by restoring these important parts of Destiny's history. As we shared in the video, we are beginning the work of bringing vaulted Destiny 2 campaigns, destinations and raids back into the game where they will be available to all destiny 2 players bringing this content back is not as simple as restoring old files changes made to destiny 2 since beyond light require us to update lighting encounters combatants and other underlying systems that work will take time but it is necessary to ensure returning content meets the stability and gameplay standards of destiny 2 today our team is very excited to deliver this for you all and as they progress we will share more details coming in the months ahead when we look to the future of destiny all up all up this let me say this again when we look to the future of destiny all up this restoration is the first step that's how it's written is the first step to lay the foundation uh for how we reforge into new stories and games that you all deserve we'll have more details on our unvaulting efforts in the coming months and we're very excited to share more about our vision to celebrate destiny's legacy and build its future with you all as soon as we can let me get into marathon marathon's evolution marathon is an important part of shaping where bungie goes next but it was never intended to replace destiny the game launched to strong critical reception and the players who embraced marathon connected deeply with what makes it distinct at the same time it did not reach as many players as we hoped and we also know and understand that the game needs to evolve so we're going to anchor on what makes marathon special but evolve it beyond genre constraints we placed on it we're going to expand marathon to be to a deeper survival experience that gives players more ways to take on this dangerous alien world through the remainder of marathon's first year we'll continue strengthening his combat world and competitive tension while giving players more agency and how they engage with the game that That means creating meaningful experiences, whether you prefer cooperative PVE, competitive PVE, or the unpredictable tension of marathon PVPVE.

34:11Blessing Adeoye Jr.:It's important to us that no matter your play style or your skill level, we find better ways to hear from you as we get back to where we need to be, making games you want to play. As you heard last week from Day, our game director, we still have a lot planned for our October Nightfall refresh and symbiosis update in December. you'll hear more from us you'll hear more from the team later this week on our future vision for marathon stay tuned they have they have a couple more paragraphs i can read them where do we go from here is the next one yeah i think you're good i think you're good okay yeah it's like at a certain point it's like okay guys we get what you're saying yeah and like this is good for the millions of fans out there that want destiny uh strategy 117 in the chat says bungie's no longer listed as a studio on playstation's website and their ig now says they're independent employee owned no way so that's that it's just in the chat so we need to verify that but that is an interesting wrinkle to all of this if that's where do they say they're independent employee owned their ig interesting somebody people in chat if you've seen their ig before this colombiano system that's fake news okay okay i'll open up their ig right now check everybody but like that that shit's crazy and like even if that were true i'm very concerned because what they're saying here is like hey we didn't make marathon work but we're going to continue to try hey we know you want more destiny we really ran that into the ground but like there's never been a better time when you say ran into the ground what do you mean i mean as an outsider it ended four times yeah you know what i mean that i'm bad and you know there's the classic no one hates star wars more than star wars fans and i know that to be true as a star wars fan like i i saw the parallels with the destiny fan bases like and it's like i didn't besides paul tassi i'm not sure they existed at the end i think they did i'm very they did but they hated it yes but i also they also love it exactly they also want that's the star wars thing that's the thing is whether they love it or they hate it if they desire it give it to them i'm there too i'm so there but like we're talking about a scale of money necessary that like clearly that there wasn't bringing in enough new people like there wasn't enough energy going forward and momentum and them switching to bungee this is just there's a lie here and this is good news this is good right there's like you said give the people what they want there are people that want destiny that makes sense because it was a cornerstone of community for video games for a decade right so i get that but this just seems like it seems like a lot and it does seem like the increased transparency around development priorities is the whole thing here but this is a lot of words it's a it's a lot of words it's saying i think all of the right things as far as what fans what what i think the question is can you deliver on that what does that look like for i guess they're talking about unvalting everything which i think is a good move give people what they want let them return to the content that they love that's always been a thing for me with games like this especially destiny is my destiny experience was playing 80 hours of destiny launch and then not the updates at all i would jump in and then i would get overwhelmed and then pop out i think giving people more of that legacy content that they were able to form those memories with especially for times like this where it is all right we don't have frequent updates hey let me and my homies go back and play something old sure why not i think that's it and i know technically it's probably a difficult thing to do but give give fans that while you continue to work on i imagine at this point new destiny 2 content is that what we're talking about here are we we destiny 3 i think needs to happen but also bungie needs to get there yeah like that's the tough that's the that's the place where i get scared of it i mean and that's a scary place to be and i feel like we're there's so many similar stories across all the different giant triple a games we're talking about in franchises where it's just like dude like the live service thing is the plague of this generation of video games specifically on the playstation side that's what they do you know what i mean they they are one of the gold standards of it and that gold the shine wore off over and i feel like that's they're in such a tough spot that yeah going back to the gold going back trying to repolish it again that is the right move you know but we saw fortnight do it and get a ton new people or not new people old people back right world of warcraft forever like that's about to be huge for everybody like this is the right call for right now but for right now yeah that's the tough thing is yeah i think the right call is to get destiny fans back on your side and feed them because they are hungry i say this to somebody who really enjoyed playing marathon and i think that game is fantastic i would look at bungee community stuff and it'd be people being like yeah but destiny um marathon is taken away from destiny, even whether that's true or not.

39:10Blessing Adeoye Jr.:No matter what, it's always destiny, wanting more destiny. And you have to speak to that, especially if you're in a place where you're needing money, right? Marathon is not doing what it needs to do in sales and popularity. Even though it's a good game, it's not reaching the masses. That means you need to revert to that. So I think that's a good choice. But also, there's two ways this can go, right? It is, hey, we're resetting, figuring out what we need to do and executing on it, or we're putting out this statement because this is our last ditch effort we're doing this is a move of desperation and needing to to like try and get people back on our side and trying to feed that like it could go either way it could be both at the same time yeah and i am fingers crossed rooting for them because it's a scary moment for bungie right now i'm rooting for them too i i really am and i hope the best i'm very concerned reading this stuff i feel like okay hey it's a step in the right direction but man it's It's a long journey.

40:03Yeah. And we'll see how it all shapes out.

40:05Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Especially to Destiny 3. Destiny 3 is nowhere close. And so. It can't be. It can't be. So that's where I get the most scared. I am excited about these marathon updates. Because I think they do need to retool that game. For getting more people in. Even though I think the core product is good. It's not good enough to make it into a very popular thing. Them talking about doing these different things. But it's even doing enough to really keep going. Dude, the core game is so fun. But I mean. But like if we're talking about the longevity of this studio. and we're talking about like having a destiny three eventually at a certain point it's like but i think you need the money right now and and you think the money's coming from marathon i think you need to try and get it that's my question i think you need to try is it even possible for the money to be coming from marathon because it doesn't seem like it i think it's possible i we've seen so many stories of games that have really rough launches that are able to turn around and get a big community going i think marathon could be one of those games but they it's a mixture of being able to make the right decisions and also being really lucky yeah i'm just i you're right that it's happened before i think i think even those days are over like i feel like those days are that's a different time like and again for the type of game that this is i don't know yeah i'm not feeling too confident about marathon's future that's fair story number four final fantasy 7 revelation will let players raise their characters level automatically to skip grinding this comes from chris scullion at vgc as revealed during an interview with ig in japan and spotted by and translated by on x by genki the game's director naoki hamaguchi said the option was being added for the third and final game in the trilogy hamaguchi explained that he received a lot of feedback from final fantasy 7 rebirth players who said they only wanted to experience the main story and weren't interested in the side content because the side content results in the players characters leveling up however players are finding that by skipping the side content they underleveled and struggled to make it through the story.

41:57To address this, Hamaguchi says Revelation will ask players at specific points in the game a question along the lines of do you want to automatically raise the level to the recommended level? In this way, players can choose yes and proceed with the game's main story at a sufficient level of power needed to get through its battles. What does that do for you? I mean, this is the type of thing where I'm like, good, options are options, right? And this is not the way that they're trying to get us to play the game. I'm not going to be doing this. Cool. But i do think that this reminds me a lot of maybe 15 years ago where we started talking about the data that devs have that we don't get to see yeah and all the shit that we'll never know and then all of a sudden every games media outlet is like parroting the same talking points about why oh well nobody plays split screen so we're not gonna add split screen and that just becomes the touchstone for that forever clearly these square people are seeing their games and being like yo people love replaying these games or love getting through these games for the story and they just want to get the story so let's just give them those options the amount of times that they've been re-releasing like a lot of the classic games you could just straight up turn on six times speed you could turn off random encounters you could it's like they just give you all it should be like just fucking play the game how you want to play the game you know and with the amount of budget and time and love they're putting into the story i get it they're just like yeah we want to give people more options it's just hey there's a story mode it's like they care about the story as much as they care about the gameplay and it's not like this game doesn't have good gameplay you know what i mean it's like it's not like they're dumbing down what's going on in the combat system uh and instead just offering this for everybody so i think it's a good thing but

43:37Blessing Adeoye Jr.:i also think that it's crazy yeah i i i'm on the side that this counts toward accessibility and accessibility is always a good thing. And so good on you. I think there's a, there's like a toxic gamer in me. That's like, you're making an RPG with side quests and you're making it so that people can just skip the side quests. Is that, is there a side quest issue then? Is there a side content issue with final fantasy seven rebirth and revelation? I think there is, but I think that issue is bigger than a normal video game conversation. it's a remake conversation and specifically a final fantasy 7 remake they have proven that they are trying to adapt everything from that first game into these games so it would let people down if they don't have all the side quests right but in that that means that they have to adapt a bunch of shit that probably shouldn't be there in the first place so i think that's the kind of unwinnable thing my point is when this team makes final fantasy 17 which i very much think they will if the side quests are an issue there i think that's going to be a much bigger problem i think that this is just them trying their best to adapt things and giving it to the hardcore people of like yo it's all there for you yeah you know but also if you don't want to do it you don't need to you know yeah here's an option i i also final fantasy 7 is such a popular gaming ip gaming franchise and so many people across the board are going to be jumping into revelation and i think when you have a game that you're trying to aim towards mass appeal you gotta let a massive amount of people be able to play the game right not alienate people because they don't want to do your little like i don't know gwent side game even though it's incredible and everybody should love queen's blood the the one issue i have with it like from the toxic perspective that you're saying is that i don't like that how it's presented here as if it's going to be part of the core gameplay experience like i i don't even like it in devil may cry 3 or one even when i died a couple times and it's like do you want to drop to easy what game was i playing was it on a musha does on a musha do that i think it does i was getting pissed off by on a show bro leave me alone man just leave me alone xenoblade chronicles does it constantly constantly and doing that all the time for 70 hours straight it's like you're just just call me a bitch then you know what i mean just call me just tell me what i lose twice in a row to battle and now you're telling me to turn it all the way down no i want to struggle let me struggle that's the point man come on but again i'm playing the game with it if it does it once you know and just kind of like and maybe even yeah like there's ways i don't hate it in all games i'm just saying it's like there is that thing where there's levels too where you're just like ah it doesn't feel good but like cool whatever i get over it it being presented not even when you lose but just like when you get to certain points in the game and maybe maybe the game will only do it if it knows you're under leveled in which case oh yeah i think i mean that's the way i read it then i take that back and it's not a problem at all but like if i'm doing side quests i'm properly leveled and it's like yo do you want this it's like ah then then all of a sudden it is affecting the core game experience in a way that i think is negative and that's the thing is again accessibility wise because based on my preview the last thing this game needs is more text prompts that i don't want to deal with my yeah my my i i think there's a rpg design conversation around it that i think we'll see how it's executed in the in the final thing but i think there is something to when the next main quest is level 50 and i'm level 47 and i know that i'm not ready for it yet and so that incentivizes me to do the exploration and experience more of the side quests i do think that there's something that's powerful in game design about that type of friction like encouraging more gameplay but also i get the fact that not everybody wants to do that like that it's like i'm not you know i'm not i i'm not representative of every type of gamer out there and so at the end of the day this is a good decision for that even if it's not for me yes absolutely uh brayden and egg says friction is good not every game needs to be for everyone i totally agree with that but i also think that this is not a good example of that i think final fantasy 7 is a example of a game that should be for everybody because of what it is and because of the way that they direct it the way that they view the importance of the story and the gameplay and the synergy between them uh so yeah more options good this is an elder well this is final fantasy exactly exactly let's get to story number five here unannounced playstation rewards program handing out wallet credits to some players this comes from zach weisen at kotaku based on some recent social media posts sony seems to be rolling out a new yet to be announced rewards program on the playstation store involving wallet credits which might be the company's replacement loyalty program following the closure of playstation stars last year oh yeah after the weekend as spotted by playstation lifestyle a ps5 user in the uk shared a screenshot of the ps store taken while they were trying to buy the blood of don walker on the psn shop in the process they spotted a new never-before-seen message that claimed purchasing don walker would come with a 10 wallet credit reward after purchasing the game the reddit user reported they did indeed immediately receive a 10 credit attached to their account another person in the uk shared a screenshot of a similar thing uh with a banner advertising the fact that buying select games would grant the user some wallet credits according to reports online the credits are being offered to select users if they buy games like star wars zero company resonance a plaguetail legacy and halloween the game this all seems to be connected to some kinds of reward program that sony's yet to officially announce or explain but it appears to be rolling out this week at least in some parts of the world it's likely connected to a strange unusable app in the PlayStation store that players discovered earlier this year called, guess what?