Xbox First Party-Only Game Pass Tier Rumored - Kinda Funny Games Daily 04.17.26

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0:24Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Today's gaming news stories include more rumors of big changes at Xbox, Metro 2039 is coming this year and can come to was nominated for an LGBT award but the director wants you to know he's not woke though well of all this more because this is kind of funny games daily yo what's up welcome to kind of funny games daily for friday april 17th 2026 i want your host blessing at aoh junior joining me is the la croix poppy tim mo gettys less it's just you and me here it is right nobody's listening nobody is potentially watching so it's a safe space i can say things and not be judged for it of course yeah for about you yeah i'll judge but i feel i feel like this is one of those things where you two might be in the circle of judgment with me is this about your shirt no it's okay this is my snoopy because that's the first question i had snoopy snoopy's so cool man i don't know what he's joe cool joe cool i don't know he has an alter ego joe cool i didn't know that yeah i fuck with snoopy it's a whole thing i mean snoopy's talk to roger about he is cool okay i'll let that slide yeah kevin can you bring up joe cool because i feel like the moment blessed sees joe cool he's gonna like his respect for snoopy will rise oh you know what i've probably seen joe cool but didn't know he was called joe cool is how would you not know he's called joe cool it's literally on i wasn't watching uh charlie brown like that yeah okay I've seen Snoopy.

1:51Blessing Adeoye Jr.:I was going to say, cause he wears glasses here. He's so fucking cool. I didn't. I guess I just never read his shirt as a kid, or maybe I just forgot. Maybe I just forgot. He was on one this week. And I love it. It was big letters. Joe cool. Yeah. It's WrestleMania weekend. I couldn't care less. Same. I'm so sad about that. Yeah. It's like, I cannot believe after the couple of years we've had that I'm at this point right now, but they released the hype video for WrestleMania. 42. Okay. Have you seen it? No. It's Lin-Manuel Miranda in the middle of the ring, pointing at the sign, and he's performing a Lin-Manuel Miranda written hype piece about the history of WrestleMania and the future of WrestleMania.

2:38Blessing Adeoye Jr.:A future of WrestleMania. I'm Lin-Manuel Miranda. Is that how he sounds? A little. I mean, it's not not that. And here's the thing. I fucking love Lin-Manuel Miranda. I mean, I love Lin-Manuel Miranda and Hamilton. That's the most cornball shit. It's so cornball. Watch it though. Lin-Manuel Miranda rapping about WrestleMania. It's not rapping. Somebody send me the link. It's not rapping. It's more slam poetry. You know what I mean? But I'm going to tell you this. It got me hyped for WrestleMania. Hit him with a suplex. I'm living in a duplex. What's he rapping about on there? That's hilarious.

3:19Blessing Adeoye Jr.:There he is. Okay, well, now I got to watch. That's the one match I'm super hyped about is the Obafemi match. And this will make you more hype. I want to see my king win. I want to see my king dominate. He might not win, though, because they're probably going to build towards SummerSlam. But I'm there to support. Just let him win. Let him win. Tim, while we're here, before we start the show, I want to call out. I don't know if you've seen the Cyberpunk trading card game on Kickstarter. This is not a sponsored segment. this is very much a i was scrolling last night saw this pop up and went how did i miss this sort of thing the cyberpunk uh tcg kickstarter which is the most funded kickstarter of all time if i'm reading this correctly kevin i have a link at the top of the dock before or like right after like the intro section of the show it's at like 25 million this isn't me being like hey support or anything like that it's me saying damn this looks like my type of shit and it looks so cool and how do i get on the ground floor how do i there's a way you just gotta spend some money and it was project dude i was looking at the tiers i was like what's the highest tier i'm willing to support and i kept going down and down i was like there's a lot of tiers and these go real high um but it's it's really cool the card designs are fucking dope and maybe this is just me being both a tcg person now within the last couple years and then also me being a big fan of the cyberpunk video game but uh this looks really cool to me i can't wait for this what is it that looks cool to you just the design in the world i think for me it's like you make a tcg out of anything i'm in at this point you know what i mean like magic i was playing the star wars tcg months ago with roger having a great time so already i'm in on a tcg i think the fact that like i really like the cyberpunk world and like i don't know how often i'm gonna go back to the video game i booted it up because the PSI pro and the, you know, I got a new 4k OLED TV, Tim.

5:09Blessing Adeoye Jr.:I don't know if you know about that. I do know. I know all of that. They made some upgrades or whatever, but like, I don't really go back to the game that often. I watched the anime, so I don't really have that to go back to. I think because this is an additional way that I can live in the cyberpunk world and just stay in it and maybe like have a different type of connection with the characters and all this shit. I think that's mainly what it is for me. It's also just the way you presented it. I thought there was like, oh, they're doing something crazy with card. It's not even that. No, it's just, I'm looking at the cards and I'm like, I look cool.

5:35they look cool sometimes that's all it needs to be yeah and cyberpunk inherently looks cool yes and this will put that shit on some holographic cards printed money 25 million and that's the

5:45Blessing Adeoye Jr.:thing i like the cyberpunk aesthetic so much which is funny because i don't think i did at first but like now that i'm here and i played phantom liberty and i've lived in it more watch the show watch the show now i'm in love with the cyberpunk 2077 aesthetic and so this is definitely going to be one of those ones like riff bound because riff bound was the league of legends uh card game that they did that it's going to sit on my shelf because i can't get any of my friends to play riffbound with me it'll definitely be one of those but i wanted to shout out this looks cool as hell to me i can't wait for the cyberpunk tcg and also if anybody at cyberpunk is watching how do i get on the ground floor how do i how do i create you know what i mean like what do i gotta do to be a part of this this is really cool to me but enough about that tim remember if you're watching live you can be a part of the show by super chatting in over on youtube.com slash kind of funny games we couldn't do this without our producers on patreon.com slash kind of funny so thank you to carl jacobs omega buster and delaney the psalm twining for now let's begin with what is and forever will be the roper report it's time for some news we have six stories today oh baker's desert have you caught up on the boys yet no it's getting good oh yeah it's gotten i can't wait last episode pretty good too much tv right now a whole lot of tv i want to watch the show the pit yeah you heard of the pit oh yeah the streets have been talking about it it's real good yeah oh yeah really want to like it story number one very gory though oh yeah i don't watch and it's like a medical show right yeah i overhear it i'm like fuck this is some high quality shit and i look at the screen i'm like i don't want to look at that you tell me it's gory kind of scares me because i can do you might be able to handle it i can do like the boys gore where people bodies explode but like if you show me realistic medical gore i might watch a few episodes yeah give it a shot don't let me deter you story number one the new boss of xbox is reportedly considering a game pass tier that would only include first party microsoft games this is wesley yinpool at ign the new boss of xbox is reportedly considering a game pass tier that include first party games the verges tom warren said asha sharma who replaced phil spencer as boss of Xbox earlier this year, is looking at potentially adding the new Game Pass tier as part of a shakeup that would evolve the subscription service into a more flexible system, having told staff that, quote, Game Pass has become too expensive for players.

8:04Blessing Adeoye Jr.:We talked about this earlier this week. Microsoft appears to be reassessing all parts of Xbox now that Sharma is in charge. It is reportedly considering pulling this year's Call of Duty game out of Game Pass as a day one release, with reports indicating the blockbuster first-person shooter series addition to Game Pass was one of the reasons the subscription got more expensive. More recently, former boss of Sony Interactive Entertainment, America, Sean Layden, has suggested there's no saving Game Pass. Quote, they're trying so hard to will this into health, despite unfavorable diagnostics and a grim prognosis, he said.

8:39Blessing Adeoye Jr.:A clarifying postmortem would do the entire industry some good. He's talking like he's in the pit. Dude, I fucking love it, though. Get him, Sean. I'm right there with it. Oh, yeah? I think that, yeah. yes specifically the clarifying post-mortem yes we need to have a reset point and look and be like we made some mistakes here's the results of those mistakes here's how we're going to try to fix it let's go forward yeah because like man shit ain't working and we know that anyway this is a hilarious headline once again yeah you and i sitting here talking about people talking here we are talking about them considering what they might do with game pass it's so funny that we're going to be in this era for a long time i don't think we're getting answers anytime soon soon as could be june okay yeah at the summer what they do with the game pass yeah okay and you know maybe the xbox 25 maybe it'll just be a random tuesday but i think it's very funny right now that we're hearing so much about hey they're trying to figure it out i understand they're trying to figure it out yeah i understand this all just happened i also understand that we're consumers and they were able to look at this and just be like okay well we need answers i mean we needed answers for 13 years since 2013 when they launched the xbox one but i also i get that this is difficult and they have to get it right the most important thing is they have to get it right i would rather wait as long as it takes for them to be able to be like this is the plan this is what we're sticking with and here are the games and here's a vision and this is what we're doing and we've created a system that microsoft's not gonna interfere in ways that are going to be completely detrimental and you know push us off track because everything has to be going perfectly for this to work and to get xbox back to a brand that matters in the gaming space because we went from them not just losing the war there's now the question of are they relevant in the gaming space and it's like I also I want to be clear they're making a lot of money and I do think that the Xbox brand the Xbox owned developers yeah they're going to be great but the question of are they ever going to go full third party are they going to what is this next console all this stuff it's like they need to figure this shit out because the longer we're sitting here talking about considerations and we're going to talk about every permutation that's possible for what game pass is going to be it's just gonna get worse and worse and worse yeah that's the thing is like i don't think there's much more for us to say surrounding this because we've already talked about it this week as far as what some of those permutations may look like what do you feel about the headline of this as far as it a version of game pass that's only first party xbox games do you think that's something that could work what do i think about this consideration of game pass this possible specific i mean i literally I need to ask you to clarify does that include Call of Duty games no I mean okay so it's only first party but except for Call of Duty let's look at both permutations because now we're splitting off into two branches because yeah if we're taking it just by the word of the this article then yes it would include Call of Duty but given what we know about Call of Duty and Game Pass I would then assume no like why but anyway give me either permutation from you both permutations what are your thoughts um i mean i think game pass devalues games like i'm not gonna back off of that platform like the longer we get into this the more i believe it so i'm just like don't do this and like making a game pass tier that is and i'm also a fan of less tiers i don't think more tiers is the end i agree with that so it's like you're telling me there might be a tier that has first party tiles and then a tier that has everything else that's a good question or does that tier not exist anymore that's a really good question because that's weird these are really good questions tim yeah they should consider it i don't know i don't i don't think i'm in on this idea i but in i'm trying to think of why i think i was having a conversation with mike earlier this week and mike brought up a good point that he said he wanted a tweet and then he didn't tweet it and i'm like mike it's a spicy tweet but i think like i think you make a good point which is when they're doing the other news from earlier in the week i guess talking about i what was the headline there was like some other game pass shit that they're talking about right about what to do with maybe it was like we're gonna make our games exclusive i think that's what it was um mike looked at me he was like dude i almost wanted to put out there like yo what if we made these games masterpieces first like what if we could make 10 out of 10 games like maybe that's the first step is to make our games fantastic and then start to talk about like exclusivity and all these other things and i went i looked at mike and i was like mike you gotta say that because if i say that people are gonna go but like jokes aside no real real talk jokes aside i think if you're able to get the it's a weird double thing right if you're able to get your games to a place where people go fuck i need to buy this xbox game i need to buy fable i need to buy gears i need to buy forza wouldn't not even just those games because those games i think are already kind of there or at least getting there if i go i need to buy the compulsion game you know what i mean I need to buy the Obsidian game.

13:55Blessing Adeoye Jr.:I need to buy the Double Fine game. If you can get those games to a place where they are tent poles, then I think we're cooking as far as, oh, we have a service where you can play all those games just by paying the subscription service. Now, this ends up on your side of the thing of how Game Pass might devalue games. If you get your games to that level, why wouldn't you just want to sell them? Exactly. Yeah, we're in such a weird place. And also make the money from them, you know what I mean, instead of hemorrhaging it. But let's take a reset point. Okay. Let's take all the snark that I just put out there.

14:26Like, I understand how I'm coming off. Let's reset for a second and be a little bit more real about another thing that I think is a very real problem that they're facing with Xbox and Game Pass and Xbox Game Pass as a brand. You need to sell it not just to the people listening to this show. You need to sell it to normal people. And if you're selling, it's an Xbox first party thing. And that, let's just say, includes everything that Xbox owns. So that's Bethesda as well as Activision, which includes Call of Duty and all of that stuff. That is so hard to explain to normal people, to mainstream people.

14:59They don't think of Call of Duty as an Xbox game. They don't. Right?

15:06Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Because why would they? The branding gets so convoluted and complex, and the more tiers you have, the less clear that messaging becomes. I think that might be one of the biggest uphill battles that Xbox is currently in that they really do need to figure out is what is Xbox? And I think that literally the pullback from this is an Xbox, this is an Xbox, this is an Xbox, which is a perfect example of the problem. Yeah. What is Xbox and how do we explain that to people? There needs to be this clear reset point to everyone. This is Xbox, right? Yeah. and i think that they could do that but that needs to be a full-on committed vision and not like uh it's every company we own well except for this one and except for that one and well there's a call of duty if you were to do the only first party thing i you've convinced me that for that call of duty would be there like i think you would have you're right you would have to go every xbox thing is here to make it make sense and i just don't see it making sense because like going back to what I just said it's like an only first party tier how do you market that you go every Xbox game is on here and you convert people into thinking into understanding Call of Duty is an Xbox game how do you do that that's my question is how do you do that are we too far gone from that I mean I think people are I think people are smart enough I know we're talking about something that something where we're getting into the weeds of it but I think on the broad level if you can go even though the Xbox game studios is kind of different from but like if you can go activision bethesda xbox those are all xbox like i think that's not as difficult to explain i think it is but then you have to have you can't have a million tears i think i think that's the problem is like i i want to be very clear i'm not making the argument that i feel is uh null and void very stupid thing to say about like but what about the grandpas that are in the game spots stops trying to buy the kids their toys yeah it's not that argument my argument is like to gamers my argument is to people playing Call of Duty on PlayStation 5 actively.

17:09Like, they don't think of Call of Duty as an Xbox game. And I don't know that it's possible to make them think that way, especially when there's layers upon layers of branding involved in it all. You gotta get rid of Activision. Xbox makes Call of Duty now. You need to present it that way. You gotta get rid of Bethesda as a brand. Bethesda could be a development team under that. Otherwise, Xbox games will never be a united front that you could be like, here's this game past here and that is our main product that we're pushing here it won't make sense i think you're

17:40Blessing Adeoye Jr.:right i just i just think the problem is that xbox is so big they're bigger than any other publisher and they need to find a way to own that yeah but i think it's just tough when it is i think if you get rid of the activision label in the bethesda label and just go everything is under xbox like maybe it could work but i i think the worry that they might have and i think it's a few things i think the structure of the way they have activision and they have bethesda i think they just do they operate as different companies right and so like i think that's one how's it working for them not great but i think the other thing is and maybe this is me over thinking as a consumer i think being able to divide them up kind of helps them marketing marketing wise because they they can then go hey like activision is xyz thing but that's this xyz thing xbox is xyz thing and like there's so much that it's easier for us to divide and deliver as opposed to going everything is everything because then i think you lose i think what i'm saying is you lose identity as xbox if you just go xbox is a hodgepodge of everything you know what i mean like when i think of a nintendo i know what a nintendo game looks like weirdly i know what a bethesda game looks like i know what an activision game looks like because it's call of duty i think there's identity in that somewhat i think i i just think it's hard on the marketing side for everything to be everything i mean but that's the thing yeah then what is xbox it's the box oh my god it's the box i i think that's what we're gonna get to because i think that's where this conversation ends up and funny enough we're spending there's we're doing more speculating on on this than i thought we would which is great because it's a good conversation but to your point of them having to find what is xbox with all these asha sharma changes all these considerations that we're making and although we're gonna get back to what made xbox fantastic in the first place and all this stuff what you're talking about is getting back to selling the box that's what we got away from that was the identity this sounds like we're trying to get back to selling game pass everything being said here isn't about a box but the what's the what's the what's the end of this road as far as if you are trying to hone in on selling the xbox business and let's say we are back to the box what does the end of the line look like as far as where game pass ends up because i think game pass just ends up looking like PS Plus Extra.

19:55Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Game Pass can't be the main draw anymore if we're going back to selling the box. I mean, making all your first-party titles available in a tier, the idea of this would be making it so it doesn't need to be$30. It could be cheaper, right? Or else, like, there's no other reason to consider it. They're already doing this. This already happens. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. This jumping ahead of, like, the broader conversation that I'm sure we're going to have a million different times. I am of the belief that if Xbox wants to make the box the priority, we need to just kill Game Pass and make all the games exclusive.

20:31And that's the end of the story. That's how you do that. Otherwise, and this is the thing that at this point, I actually think is the better move. Nah, we're everywhere, baby. We're the number one publisher in the world. We're making hella money putting our games everywhere. Yes, we have a Project Helix console PC system or whatever. That's not the point. The point is you playing our games everywhere because we own half the industry and we want to be able to be wherever games are. Is that not what they've been trying? Five. Yeah, but they've been pussyfooting around it. They've been tiptoeing around it.

21:04They haven't done it. Like commit Forza day and day.

21:08Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Is that not what we're, what Ashish Sharma is talking about when she joins and goes, this, this isn't working. We're going to like go back to what our audience wants. Does the audience not want it to be Xbox, we're selling the console, we're getting exclusive games? I mean, I think there's many audiences. I'm sure there's an audience that, like, this is the problem. And again, I agree with you with what you're saying, but I'm just like, I really feel like you need to commit this way or commit this way. It can't be a half and half. And right now it's a half and half. We've never seen just a full-on commitment to these visions.

21:40100%. And it's like, I really believe they have to do that.

21:43Blessing Adeoye Jr.:And that's what I'm saying, is that, Ashutosharman coming in, you've got to commit. And so far, the things that you're telling us makes me think you're committing to going back the other way. No. So far, what I'm hearing is she's considering this, and she's considering this, and she's considering this. I'm hearing all of the things. And I'm like, okay, that's a good idea. Go down that path. That's a good idea. Go down that path. That's a good idea. Go down that path. But it's impossible to go down all three paths equally. It's just impossible. So I'm very interested in where it all shakes out.

22:11But you know what? I feel like it's going to shake out kind of a little bit of each, which means this isn't going to solve anything.

22:16Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Let's hop into some Super Chat, see what the audience is talking about. Jemavan writes in and says, the real answer is just locking down Xbox games on Xbox. But Microsoft isn't willing to eat those losses for long enough for it to matter. I mean, that's what we said when they first announced this whole thing. I'm starting to think the other way. I'm starting to think we go back to being exclusive. But when? The argument I keep making is this is Xbox's year. They have their biggest IPs coming out. And if they're not doing it right now, then what's that going to mean? It's going to be back to the Game Pass in the beginning situation of, all right, every first party title is available on Game Pass.

22:51Crackdown 3. It's like, if you're going to do that, it needs to be now.

22:56Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Is that a ship that you can steer that sharply? When these games are coming out this year and Asha Sharma only became CEO a couple months ago, can you go, oh, we're making these all exclusive? You can't, right? i mean i don't think you can they can do whatever they want they concord came out and then disappeared yeah you can't do that yeah you can't yeah but they how many hundreds of millions of dollars do you lose there i mean yeah but how much hundreds of millions of dollars do you use when you put out another box that doesn't sell sure um well hold on what wams writes in and says activism activision blizzard put some respect on the maker of the greatest game of all time been a world of warcraft make sure that's on your top 100 fair enough fair enough um joey ratson says i really think gears of e-day gears of war e-day and fable can really help bring back the xbox identity if they hit well with critics and players i agree i think if those games are fantastic yeah they can that'll be great for xbox the identity for sure owl season writes in and Says they need created by Xbox message on the startup screen of each game they own.

24:09Blessing Adeoye Jr.:Let consumers know every time they start a game. Question. Call of Duty. When you boot that up, this last Call of Duty, and I don't remember, but did it say Xbox? Like, if you're playing that game on PlayStation, does it have the Xbox logo at the beginning? I would assume. I do not know. Someone in chat, please let us know. Millie says no. Which I think is to your point. Yeah. you gotta we gotta we gotta claim those as xbox games um the white wolf 49 68 says more than likely i'll get a playstation 6 and use game pass ultimate for xbox games i release first so this tier would be for me there you go uh lord foosh which also means you're not buying a box yeah so uh lord foosh says you're almost you you're all you almost have to have representatives in all the major box top stores uh near the holiday season explaining it to the older generation so they can get on board and that's too clunky i don't know if i agree with that as far as like the xbox messaging of it right because like right now how do you explain game pass it is hey here's a bunch of games that come into service all the xbox first party launch here it just continues to be that same explanation it doesn't feel premium that's the problem it just feels like a subscription service you're just getting things yeah like it's it's like netflix now not netflix when they were pushing like this is where you get house of cards can game pass be that it definitely can if they just tighten the shit up but also no like back the fuck off yeah i guess that's where i i struggle as far as like the house of cards argument is you need great first party shit like fantastic first party shit and they've had the structure uh for game pass of delivering you third-party things and all of our premium first-party things it's just that you haven't had any premium first-party things that are you needed an elder scrolls and we got a starfield like yeah i think that's what it is is you need a more consistent here are the bangers on this thing and i think it's just too late like i think you just spent too much time splitting your wheels and not getting there what that looks like what the best version of game pass looks like um in the water dsm says birthday tax for tomorrow and can someone explain the bakers dozen call out or or the six roper report topics oh for the six roper report topics um baker's dozen goes back to beyond it's been a long time to him you might know you might be able to explain this better than i can it's just great it's a greg millerism you know what i mean yeah greg just likes greg likes no matter how many it is he knows that a baker's dozen's 13 yeah any story he does it um slewman's right and says needs to know if one tim and bless have heard the new baby Keem album and two if they're going to the show in Oakland next month not Tim new dad don't risk it in the wash pit but my kid go for it do you listen to Baby Keem I'm not a Baby Keem person I only know Baby Keem from features I think he was on Yeezus right Yeezus no he was on Donda Baby Keem might have literally been a baby when Yeezus came out damn yeah he's not that old um I listen to the Baby Keem album I actually really love the Baby Keem album I'm not going to go to

27:17Tim Gettys:the concert i'll be the oldest person at the baby keem concert maybe roger you know who's probably gonna go is roger corny roger loves baby keem so uh kills of rivia says hey guys birthday tax

27:29Blessing Adeoye Jr.:shout out to my corgi kratos my mighty dog of war turns four today have a good weekend everyone happy birthday and shout out kratos um george writes in and says 24th birthday tax kf got me through so much the past two years and i love all y 'all so much ps finished the pit last night best show on tv hell yeah streets are saying um ariel knight says how would you feel about an indie tier i think this comes back to the thing if there's just too many tiers we can't have a billion tiers on game pass because that that's what gets confusing no you need one or two and and the bigger problem too is indie as a concept isn't appealing financially it's not a good marketing term and like that i we i understand that there is a niche audience that was like likes that it's indie and wants to support it in the same way like a24 kind of has built a brand around we understand what you're getting from that and that excites people right yeah but the reality is anytime we put like indie games you need to know in a headline nobody watches it yeah and i think i honestly i think that's purely wording and marketing because if you look at the last year of game pass of course what carried are what carried yeah what carried game pass last year was indies clear obscure hollow knight silksong right like these games are what made game pass exciting last year but like you show the average gamer clear obscure they don't think indie game you know what i mean so i i understand the idea the the sentiment there but yeah i think it's a it's a tough thing on the marketing side and then one more from gondra's condo who writes in and says as a nearly lifelong pittsburger the pit nails so much about the city i spend a considerable amount of time at various locations they name that's cool i always love that yeah They once made a TV show called Champagne Ill That's about Champagne, Illinois The town I grew up in People from Champagne don't like that show It wasn't really that well representative I watched episode one And I like Sam Richardson I like Sam Richardson But no, I didn't really like the show that much Tim We're going to move on to story Number breaking Some breaking news here We're going to get into the breaking news But before we do, I want to tell you about patreon.com slash kind of funny and youtube.com slash kind of funny games where you can go and get the kind of funny membership, which allows you to get shows ad free.

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33:18Blessing Adeoye Jr.:And we're back with breaking news. The studio behind last year's Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 Plus 4 remasters have been hit with more mass layoffs as it tries to adapt to the video game industry's new normal this is from ethan gotch at kotaku iron galaxy the florida-based game company best known for helping other studios port their games to new platforms is laying off dozens of employees and announced on friday the downsizing comes after it shipped the tony hawks pro skater 3 plus 4 remaster collection to positive reviews the layoffs could affect up to 90 employees one source told kotaku the company didn't immediately respond to requests for comment quote ever since 2020 when everything about making video games started to change people have been waiting for business to get back to normal the company posted on linkedin these are the conversations we've had with colleagues and partners on our travels to the places where game creators gather this year we're adopting a new posture to accept these current market conditions as permanent it continued quote players assume games in new ways publishers have different criteria for investing in the development of games this new normal has impacted all our partners as iron galaxy adapts we must make painful decisions about what we can be as a company it's impossible for us to sustain the team size that we've carried this past year even after our downsizing from last year and quote fucking brutal man this sucks yeah this really sucks here we are again the tony hawk franchise dead many people losing their jobs a very talented studio being affected to a point that they will no longer be the studio we know them at Iron Galaxy they made the wrestling Rumbleverse I think that's correct Dive Kick back on the PS4 which I fucking loved the one hit kill Iron Galaxy is a studio that's been doing good work Killer Instinct with support on Killer Instinct right or did they yeah support support either way cool like cool shit that this studio has done over the past decade and sucks to see that we're here after 20 hawks pro skater 3 plus 4 which was fucking awesome like tim i know you're the tony hawks super fan tony hawks 3 plus 4 was one that's like i was obsessed with that launch as well right like it's somebody who loves tony hawk pro skater 3 so to see such a good remake of games that we love come out and it'd be like damn they did the thing and to not be here and it's up to 90 people they did the thing man i love those games they added new levels they like did so much great stuff not everybody loved them as much as one and two remake because they didn't faithfully uh recreate the story mode or career mode of four um so there was like a little bit more like hesitation around the launch of three and four compared to the first games but um i also questioned the game pass of it all sure launched on game pass did that affect sales enough did they make the money necessary is that why we're here i don't know yeah i mean i'm at the point now where i don't even look at the business as being a factor what i mean let's

36:18Tim Gettys:be honest oh let's be real about how talented these studios are how well received these games

36:24Blessing Adeoye Jr.:are and oftentimes how good they sell and the studios still get shut down or later yeah yeah like i don't i can't take performance to a factor as a factor it doesn't matter one of the things do well did not do well it doesn't matter you're laid off i was having a stream um the other week and was talking about uh i think i was talking about playstation because i was doing a follow-up to our games cast where we were talking about how to fix playstation whatever and like one of the things i was talking about was uh media molecule and i feel like anytime either media molecule comes up comes up or double fine comes up people are like how long till xbox closes them how long till playstation closes them and like i had to pause people and go guys playstation shut down Bluepoint before they shut down Media Molecule.