In short
Ipswich Town’s 3-1 loss at Leicester City, framed as “two steps forward, one step back,” plus a wider discussion about Ipswich’s inconsistency, missed chances, and whether the team is “clicking” yet.
Guests
No external guests. Two hosts: Mark Heath and Stu (surname not given). Kieran McKenna’s post-match comments are quoted from the club/press.
Guest backgrounds
Mark and Stu are Ipswich Town podcast hosts; Mark lives with a Leicester fan (personal context). Kieran McKenna is Ipswich Town’s manager (his tactical/assessment quotes are used).
Key claims
Leicester’s game-changing goals (especially late first-half and third goal after Ipswich switch off) decided the match; Ipswich were profligate (top “unwanted” missed-chances theme); Ipswich’s inconsistency continues despite a decent points run.
Notable examples
Deke O’Doved-Reed’s 30-yard strike; Abdul Fatahou’s long-range “goal of the season” (70 yards); missed chance where Jack Clark shoots straight at the keeper; Ipswich defensive switch-off leading to the third goal; Fatahou’s one-v-one elastico against Leif Davis.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOReflections on Recent Performance
0:45 to 3:40
Discussion on Ipswich Town's loss to Leicester City and its implications.
“I'm not au fait with that Paul Abdul number.”
The Impact of Christmas Preparations
3:40 to 6:20
Light-hearted conversation about holiday preparations and traditions.
“Hopefully he'll reappear before Christmas with his computer fixed, but time will tell.”
Analyzing the Match Against Leicester
6:20 to 12:30
In-depth analysis of the match, discussing key moments and player performances.
“So from there, it's really, really tough.”
Goals and Opportunities
12:30 to 14:00
Discussion on the goals scored during the match and missed opportunities for Ipswich.
“had the goals not gone in at the times they did in the fashion that they did.”
Analyzing the Missed Opportunities
14:00 to 14:49
Discussion on key missed chances during the game and their potential impact.
“Then you get to the fast forward to the last bit of it.”
Pressure and Atmosphere at Leicester
14:49 to 16:48
Exploring how crowd dynamics and missed opportunities affected the game.
“in terms of being ruthless in front of goal, which still sounds odd saying they need to be all ruthless when they have scored a lot of goals.”
The Stunning Goal by Abdul Fattah
16:48 to 19:44
In-depth analysis of Fattah's incredible long-range goal and its significance.
“Yeah, that's why I expected, if I'm honest with you, given that I know clearly I live with a Leicester fan.”
Debating the Nature of Great Goals
19:44 to 21:40
Discussion on different types of goals and personal preferences in football.
“I mean, actually, I think it's further out than Beckham's.”
Defensive Mistakes and Game Dynamics
21:40 to 24:44
Analyzing defensive errors that led to goals against Ipswich Town.
“And then, obviously, Stu, shortly after halftime, it's pretty much game over.”
Emerging Players and Future Potential
24:44 to 27:31
Highlights on players showing promise despite the disappointing match outcome.
“Ashley Young and Jens Kajusta in midfield because a tired Jack Taylor had also been withdrawn at that stage, as or off.”
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Reflecting on Inconsistencies
27:31 to 28:00
Discussion on the overall performance and inconsistencies in the team's play.
“It was Philogine, of course, who scored against Stoke.”
Reflecting on the Recent Defeat
28:00 to 28:38
The hosts discuss Ipswich's recent 3-1 defeat and the mixed feelings it brings about team performance.
“I don't know if there's been an official renaming there.”
Inconsistency and Performance Concerns
28:38 to 30:25
The conversation shifts to the team's inconsistency and the implications for the season's outlook.
“and they've gone and laid an egg at Leicester and turned in another unconvincing performance, which immediately then dampens the mood.”
Expectations vs. Reality
30:25 to 32:03
Hosts discuss whether fans have become spoiled by previous successes and the current expectations from the team.
“I don't know how to feel right now I've said it a few times this season I've normally got a bit of a gut feeling or I can say with sort of confidence that, you know, don't worry, it's going to be all right.”
Comparing Past and Present
32:03 to 34:13
The hosts draw comparisons between this season and the previous promotion season, reflecting on pressure and performance.
“But surely we want a team that's competitive more than anything else and is likely to be involved in the sharp end of the season.”
January Transfer Window Outlook
34:13 to 36:24
Discussion about the upcoming transfer window and its potential impact on the team's performance.
“And might it have been different had that been the case?”
League Competitiveness
36:24 to 37:46
The hosts analyze the competitive nature of the current league and its implications for Ipswich's season.
“But I think generally speaking, they are in the mix for promotion in what is a fairly average league.”
Learning from Setbacks
37:46 to 39:43
Discussion about the lessons the team needs to learn from their current struggles and previous successes.
“I'm still waiting for anyone to kind of blow my socks off in terms of someone I've seen up close and personal.”
Overcoming Adversity
39:43 to 42:00
Exploring Ipswich's difficulties in coming back from behind in matches and its historical context.
“Apart from, obviously, that season they went up when everything was rosy and they just seemed like to be this relentless winning machine.”
Assessing Ipswich's Season Performance
42:00 to 46:30
Explore Ipswich's struggles and resilience in recent matches.
“The first thing I'd say is they have scored three last-minute equalisers this season.”
The Challenge of Expectations
46:30 to 48:48
Discuss the increasing pressure and expectations on Ipswich players.
“You know, the Sheffield United game, oh, they're going to be all right now.”
Upcoming Matches and Team Dynamics
48:48 to 51:09
Preview upcoming matches and discuss team dynamics and strategies.
“around every single result gets more and more intense.”
Upcoming Matches and Team Dynamics
51:10 to 51:51
Preview upcoming matches and discuss team dynamics and strategies.
“Talking of chat, Kare Live 3, which was meant to be obviously on Saturday, as the boys revealed last week and we shared on social media, that's had to be postponed.”
Upcoming Matches and Team Dynamics
51:53 to 53:18
Preview upcoming matches and discuss team dynamics and strategies.
“Two, well, one, definitely money can't buy competition.”
Competitions and Subscriber Offers
53:18 to 56:00
Details on subscriber competitions and offers for listeners.
“So, yeah, good to have that on offer to our subscribers as well, Stu.”
Closing Remarks
56:00 to 56:47
A brief conclusion and sign-off for the episode.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:08Mark Heath:Hello friends and welcome to your Monday morning edition of the Kings of Anglia Ipswich Town podcast proudly sponsored by Stardust Spirits and Molecular UK. I'm Mark Heath. I'm back, but I don't bring, I'm afraid friends, very good news because as Paula Abdul famously sang, as I'm sure you'll know, Stu, two steps forward, one step back. And that's exactly what we had at the weekend as Itchwich Town went and lost to the previously rather feeble Foxes of Leicester City. 3-1, thoroughly underwhelming, particularly annoying in my household as I live with a Leicester fan. And she was just as shocked as I think most Leicester fans were that Leicester won in such a very comfortable fashion.
0:42Mark Heath:Sue, how are you this morning? Just the two of us today.
0:44Stuart Watson:I'm fine, thank you. I'm not au fait with that Paul Abdul number. Can you give us a little chew? Two steps forward, one step back.
0:56Mark Heath:Opposites attract. I mean, I think it was probably the late 80s, once again proving how cool and relevant we are. But, yeah, it just fits perfectly with what's happened, obviously, given the two steps forward and literally then the one step back at Leicester. Just the two of us today, Stu, because Ross's computer's blown up, so we've got no idea when we may see him again. And Alex is off for a day, I think, spending the whole day congratulating himself for the work that he's put in thus far. um stew before we get into the game has christmas officially hit the watson household are you are you deep into the uh the uh what we call it the confectionery the christmas snacks etc or do you
1:32Stuart Watson:do you try and put that off until closer to the day uh i've been yeah very disciplined i've had in my ear um snacks and confectionery there is a christmas cupboard starting to fill but yeah I've not fired the starter gun on that just yet. Getting there with the presents. Bit of wrapping's already started.
1:56Kieran McKenna:Trees long been up, I think I said to you, first weekend in December that one.
2:00Stuart Watson:It might have even been the last one in November when we're having that debate.
2:04Mark Heath:Yeah, looking forward to it. We've got one of our Christmas things is that we stockpile crisps. I'm a big crisp lover, I think I've mentioned on this show indeed. Obviously, we got sent numerous packets of crisps back in the day from our friend daryl over in the states um the christmas bag of chris huge bag of chris every time i go into the garage i'm looking at it's calling to me stew and i'm thinking when can i when can i get into that but the key is when you reach our age to you of course metabolism slows down you have to be responsible and disciplined don't you just as you say as one would say before you get right into those those christmas snacks um and once you've started that's it
2:40Stuart Watson:it's like the pringle the pringles catchphrase isn't it um once you've started there's no going back and all bets are off so yeah yeah can't go too early exactly and just a little insight into
2:51Mark Heath:um into into rossi friends um we get a christmas hamper sent to us it's one of the the few perks of working for the company that we do every year they send out a christmas hamper to all the employees which is you know a good value lots of quality clobber in there um rossi's always seems to end up either not finding him or coming late uh so again it came late this year and literally within a second, I think, of it arriving, he sent us a picture of him with a biscuit in his mouth. He has no, what's the word, restraint when it comes to getting stuck into that Christmas clobber.
3:25Stuart Watson:He complained that it hadn't been sent to him, and then he turned out, one of his neighbours pointed out, it had been behind his bins for about three days. Yeah. Classic.
3:37Mark Heath:Good old Roscoe. Classic Roscoe. Bless him. Hopefully he'll reappear before Christmas with his computer fixed, but time will tell. He's got a chat with a specialist unit about it this morning, Stu, which sounds quite official and scary. Anyway, Stu, we can put it off no longer. Let's talk about Eastwich Town losing at Leicester City because it was not what I expected. I'll be honest. It was not what my wife expected. A Leicester fan, she thought they'd get crushed. And, you know, to be honest, looking at it on paper, it looked like a good game for Town to go and win, given the problems they've had, the toxic nature of what's going on down there, particularly in front of the home fans at the King Power.
4:10Mark Heath:But they didn't, Stu. So do you want to kick us off with your opening thoughts and then we can hear from Kieran?
4:16Stuart Watson:Frustrating. Wouldn't put it in quite the same bracket as the Blackburn. Shambles, unacceptable, etc. But it certainly can be lumped in with several games this season that were wholly unconvincing, uninspiring of that nature. We keep saying it. Goals change games. Leicester get a couple of very good ones, of course. they didn't really start playing until they got a goal back. It was just that added to the frustration that, you know, they didn't really show a great deal of anything until those final 20 minutes when really the game was done by that point. So a frustrating way to end off a week full of positives up until that point.
5:02Mark Heath:Two steps forward, one step back. Let's hear from Kieran McKenna, shall we?
5:06Kieran McKenna:Yeah, I thought it wasn't a great performance, certainly. I think the goals were the decisive thing in a game, really. I think you can see the strike like that from 30 yards, seven minutes into the game, away from home against a good team. It's always going to be tough. So they had a small bit of momentum after that. But in general, we kind of got ourselves back into it and were growing into the game. Had a really good chance to go 1-1. There's a couple of moments from set players, but nothing really an open player. So nothing really in the game. and then they score an incredible goal right on half-time.
5:43Kieran McKenna:That again, we've not done loads wrong in the situation. It's just an incredible bit of individual brilliance that you have to give credit for. So, yeah, I felt like that was really, not to shorten the story, but that was the decisive moments of the game. At half-time, you know it's going to be tough, but you still know you can get back into the game. But also Leicester at home with the confidence of two incredible goals like that or a really good side. So we're disappointed with the third goal, definitely more than the other two. To be honest, just after half-time where we think or I think we're expecting it to be a free kick and then we switch off in the box.
6:20Kieran McKenna:So from there, it's really, really tough. Yeah, it wasn't our day. We got our goal back. Not very much as well, to be honest. Then we have a chance to go 3-2, a couple of chances to go 3-2. Again, if you score one of them, then maybe you can get something out of the game. But yeah, I think it was a game of moments and not many of moments went our way and they've grabbed a couple of incredible moments.
6:46Mark Heath:All right, Stu, we'll return to the incredible moments and not a lot we can do about it, debate in due course. But shall we start at the start? The starting 11, Stu, you were off on Friday, so I did the starting 11 bit. Two changes to what I predicted, two changes to what happened. I had Casey McIntyre, however, coming in for Sindri, Valli Aghelli. I did not have Jack Clark playing again out of position on the right, something we've seen earlier this season. I think everyone agrees that it doesn't really work. So was that a surprise for you?
7:15Stuart Watson:Yes and no. When I recorded the pre-pod with Ross last week, when we had an early look ahead to that game off the fly, I did think that Aghelli, I mean, we didn't know he was ill, which was the reason he dropped out. But regardless, I thought he might have been one that was dipped out for this game, having been a little bit quieter against Stoke and 19 still finding his feet, etc. The first thought was that Casey McAteer, if you remember the whole game, Kieran McKenna really sort of went out of his way to praise Casey McAteer's outstanding defensive contribution in that game. and I wondered whether an away game against attacking opposition at the end of a busy schedule would be suited for him.
8:06Stuart Watson:But the closer we got to the game, and my first goal scorer pick will back this up, I did wonder whether Jack Clark might try the Jack Clark on the right experiment again, because I thought we've been saying how well Jadon Filagene had played in the Coventry and Stoke games with his all-round contribution. I thought the temptation would be to go with him again. And Jack Clark's been playing off the right a little bit off the bench recently when he's been shuffling it in the second half. And Casey McAteer's not even really been getting those minutes off the bench, which I think unfortunately speaks volumes of kind of where he's at at the moment.
8:47So, yeah, a little bit surprised by Jack Clark,
8:52Stuart Watson:but not massively shocked. and I just had an inkling that he might start on the right and I chucked him in as first goalscorer pick on that basis. Yeah, I don't know. What did you think of the return of the Philogene and Clark in the same side experiment?
9:12Mark Heath:Well, as I say, I think we've been there before, haven't we? I guess the problem is, as we've said quite often, is that they're two of Town's most informed players, best players so far this season and they both play the same position and you can't really drop Philogene after what he's been doing and bring Clark going, you could do. To me, I thought it would make sense, given that Casey McIntyre has been underwhelming so far. If there's ever going to be a game where he's going to feel comfortable and motivated, it would surely be this one where he's going back in a very familiar environment, playing at the King Power with everything that he's known and been around for years.
9:47Mark Heath:And then obviously he's motivated to go out and do a job against the team that he grew up playing for. I thought, from my point of view, that seemed like a good opportunity to maybe get him a good game and get him going.
9:59Stuart Watson:Yeah, I agree. I think that would have been probably the more pragmatic route in this game to play McAteer as that sort of, almost as a wing-back, mindful of the threat of Mavadidi down that left-hand side for Leicester and then have Clark off the bench. The Clark's contribution late on against Stoke, If you remember, he came on on the right and he created two really good chances playing down that right-hand side. And maybe that was just in the back of Kieran McKenna's mind. And maybe he was thinking, Leicester having a bit of a wobble this season, home crowd could be turned. Attack is the best form of defence.
10:39Stuart Watson:And that's why he went with the options that he did.
10:45Stuart Watson:Yeah, he tried it a bit in pre-season. He tried it in the early stages of the season. and he came to the conclusion that the balance of the attack wasn't quite right with those two. I don't think there was anywhere near enough in this game to change that opinion. I'm not sure it's something we're going to see loads of more going forwards, to be honest.
11:03Mark Heath:Yeah, let's hope not. Just on the general, I guess, clearly, you know, rotation and all that has been a massive debate and narrative. This is kind of the opposite, isn't it? Because then people are saying, well, you know, it was a game too far and there should have been more changes, tired players, et cetera. in terms of your feeling about the game is that something that you would entertain as one of the causing factors of defeat that players were just maybe a bit too leggy and didn't have the energy after three games in a week
11:36Stuart Watson:Possibly like you say damned if you do, damned if you don't we've had a week of people saying stick with a team we've found a team now, we've just beat Coventry 3-0, please don't change it from there and he doesn't. It's just the one in force change for Stoke. This is a little bit different because it's a tighter turnaround. It's Wednesday to Saturday. It's away from home. It's at the right back end of a really busy block. I was actually surprised it wasn't more than two changes. I thought there might be a little bit more freshening up. I think the players that were probably at the very top end of the fatigue scale would have been Philogene, Nunez, Taylor.
12:16Stuart Watson:They're the ones that have kind of played the majority of the minutes and played the sort of the high-intensity minutes as well in the previous games. But again, I've said it already, a bit of a cliche, goals change games. We'll never know how this game would have panned out had the goals not gone in at the times they did in the fashion that they did. It's the same for everyone, isn't it? Leicester, you know, they would have won fewer games in this period because the Blackburn won. but in general, everyone's playing lots of games at the moment. So it's the same for everyone. So I don't really want to lean too heavily on the fatigue side of things for this performance.
12:54Mark Heath:Fair enough. Shall we get into the goals then, Stu? You say goals change games and Leicester scored a couple of crackers in this one. We've already heard Kieran McKenna referring to his incredible moments that we can't really do anything about. But I know from reading your observations, you don't necessarily agree with that. Deke O'Doved-Reed, brilliant goal, clearly. and then Fatou scores what I would expect to be the goal of the season. What are your thoughts on those in terms of what town could they have done anything to prevent them?
13:23Stuart Watson:I guess all goals are preventable in some way, shape or form. It depends how far back you want to go in the move and how much you want to nitpick. My feeling at the time, and I wrote this post-match is, no, I don't agree with that. There's plenty more Ipswich could have done to prevent both those goals. The first one, Nunez kind of gets knocked off the ball. Ipswich had a decent spell of possession leading up to that first goal and was just starting to feel their way into the game, I felt. And as I say, Nunez kind of got tackled high up the pitch. Still plenty of work for Leicester to do. Then you get to the fast forward to the last bit of it.
14:05Stuart Watson:could Nunez and Clark done better to close down the pass that led to it possibly can Matasi get out to the shot a bit faster maybe but I am probably nitpicking to be fair with that one ultimately it's a 30 yard strike and it's a good strike it moves in the air I'm not putting too much blame at the feet of Christian Walton for that one And yeah, I don't want to be too strong on that goal. I thought it was, you know, it is a great strike, to be fair.
14:41Mark Heath:It is indeed. And before we get to the Fatahou goal, then Town have a period of pressure, Stu. And I guess this is kind of the crux of the game and the issue that we talked about quite a lot this season in terms of being ruthless in front of goal, which still sounds odd saying they need to be all ruthless when they have scored a lot of goals. But clearly, there's a big moment in this one where Jack Clark, before mentioned Jack Clark, has a huge opportunity, shoots straight at the keeper. clearly you'd expect him to do better with that.
15:09Stuart Watson:Yeah, lots of games this season. I think we've talked about it. Ipswich are top of the unwanted table of big missed chances this season. This one adds to it. Leicester tails were up after they scored, but Ipswich rode that out a little bit. And then that chance sort of came out of nowhere, really. 37th minute. Nunez, good work, down the left side of the box. picks him out he's not far off the penalty spot unmarked first time shot it's one of those either side of the goalkeeper it's probably a goal but he sticks it straight straight down the throat of the goalkeeper um and again we'll never we'll never know what would have happened there because what i will say and when i talk about i've talked about missed opportunity quite a bit here and uh your better half liz has sort of you know had had the fear going into this one and And that's because all is not hunky-dory at Leicester at the moment.
16:06Stuart Watson:And you could feel it in the air. It felt like a crowd that were wanting to turn, that were waiting for it to go wrong. Even as goals two and three went in, the atmosphere never really took off. It was a world away from the last trip to the King Power back in May when it was, you know, Jamie Vardy's big send-off and everything's kind of buoyant around that. And if Ipswich had scored that goal, you know, leading to half-time, I honestly think that it could have been a completely different story. So that is a huge moment in the game. And a lot of matches have had these big, big moments in them, haven't they, with Ipswich's profligacy coming back to cost them?
16:49Mark Heath:Yeah, that's why I expected, if I'm honest with you, given that I know clearly I live with a Leicester fan. And I know how unsure and unhappy and potentially toxic the fan base are, especially at the King Power when they've not played very well this season. I know a lot of fans haven't even been going to games. So I thought if Town could start fast and get the fans kind of again jittery and not on the back of their own team, I thought that's what would happen in this game. But it didn't. And the home fans then got to see what I would expect to be goal of the season, Stu, from Abdul Fattah. We know going in that he's their best player.
17:23Mark Heath:He is a fantastic player. I mean, him and Mabadid are great, but I think Fatou has the edge as a player. It's just a brilliant bit of skill, A, to kind of see the opportunity and then B, to convert it, Stu, because even though he sees Walton off his line, it's still a tremendous distance he's got to cover and he's got to weight the shot perfectly so it bounces into the net. And Sifuentes afterwards says that's something that he practices. He does it all the time in training and he's actually hit the bar already this season against Swansea with a similar effort. So your thoughts on this one? And then I guess as well prepared as we know which town are, is there any argument that Christian Walton should have been a bit more wary of that, especially having seen the fact he's tried it and almost converted already this season?
18:09Stuart Watson:I needed to go back and look at it regarding Walton whenever a goalkeeper is beaten from 70 yards out you think the first thought is it's the goalkeeper's mistake he kind of never really gets the flight of the ball while it's going through the air does he and I think there's movement on the ball as well if you watch Walton he sort of twists and turns a little bit as he's backpedalling but his starting position isn't actually that high He's only just outside of his own box. It's not like he's halfway into the half or anything like that.
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18:43Stuart Watson:So I actually think that the bit that Ipswich need to look at more is the bit earlier than that. And again, it's Ipswich in the final third. Daro Shea's a bit loose with a cross-field pass. So that's the first bit. And not for the first time this season, this was an Ipswich performance full of kind of unforced errors, players giving the ball away and that was another example of that and then can it switch then do better to rectify that mistake fatah who does skip past both philagine and jack taylor before he gets his shot away i think maybe that's something that they need to look at as well but regarding walton yeah i'm i'm no goalkeeping expert but i would imagine that his starting position is what most goalkeepers take up in those scenarios in games.
19:32Stuart Watson:And I think this is one you just have to applaud the strike because that's incredible technique. You know, that was a proper David Beckham versus Wimbledon territory. That wasn't it?
19:44Mark Heath:Absolutely. I mean, actually, I think it's further out than Beckham's. 70 yards, they've clocked it out, I think. Yeah. Where do you stand on that sort of goal? I mean, I've referred to it as being probably goal of the season. And I mentioned that yesterday on social media and someone came at me, George from BSE, I think it was, saying he's got an open goal, he's got to hit it. I'd much rather have a Tony Yeboah style, you know, thunder bastard, smacking the roof of the bar and violently cannoning into the net. Any thoughts on that, Stu? Do you think these kind of long range efforts aren't as good of goals as maybe others?
20:22Stuart Watson:everyone's entitled to enjoy different goals and I can understand the aesthetics of different types of goals. Some people love team goals, some people love thunderous strikes, whatever it may be. Was it George you said there? George, yeah. Yeah. George, I'll stick you 70 yards from goal with an open net and I'll give you 100 attempts to try that shot and I'll see how many of them you put in. Yeah.
20:51Mark Heath:That's just it.
20:52Stuart Watson:George, you may be an incredible athlete, but that is, I think I might struggle to reach the goal most of the time trying to do that.
21:00Mark Heath:That's just it. If you remove all the kind of other factors he has to worry about, like the players around him, where Walton is, how hard he's got to hit the shot, the fact it's in a live environment, and just try and do that, from there on your own you'd struggle i think generally speaking um to hit the back of the net
21:18Stuart Watson:so to do it in a game i think sensational yeah we watch um remember on soccer am back in the day where they did the crossbar challenge and the amount of these these were you know elite pro athletes and the amount of those that would would skew a shot you know wide with efforts like that it's an incredible bit of skill. Let's not take anything away from that. Absolutely.
21:45Mark Heath:And then, obviously, Stu, shortly after halftime, it's pretty much game over. That man, Fata, were involved again. I enjoyed that. I don't know, it's not a term I've seen before, Stu, but you referred to him flip-flapping, Leif Davis. What's that all about?
21:56Stuart Watson:Yeah, is it? Is that the term? I'm now questioning. Yeah, where you kind of go to move the ball one way and then very quickly sort of flick it the other, is it? You know, like Ronaldinho used to do.
22:11Kieran McKenna:Yeah, yeah. Elastico, is that the same thing?
22:14Stuart Watson:Yeah. Yeah, he does that sort of bit of skill. It's just one v one wing play. One of probably, if not the best winger in the league, taking on Leif Davis, who just gets beaten by a bit of skill, sends him stumbling. Don't think there's any question of a foul in there for me. a bit of misfortune with the way the ball then kind of hits Leaf on his way down and falls nicely for Pereira to pick out Ayew. But again, if you roll it back, I think less than a minute earlier, Leaf Davis has won a free kick in the left-back area. And he takes it quickly, plays it back to Walton. They get themselves in a bit of a muddle and Kipre sort of ends up sort of looping a square ball across his own box, which was a bit of a, you know, watching through your fingers moment.
23:11Stuart Watson:And, you know, Leicester from there recycle it and end up scoring the goal. And that's probably the most frustrating one of them all because even at 2-0 down, I thought there was something in this game for Ipswich. I've mentioned the crowd. I've mentioned if that next goal, the old cliche of 2-0 being a dangerous scoreline would have really held weight in this game because I think if Ipswich had got the next goal in the game and got it to 2-1, it would have been really interesting. And as it was, they did go and get another goal and it did become semi-interesting. But, you know, once it got to a three-goal margin, effectively that was done, wasn't it?
23:49Mark Heath:Yeah. So Jens gets obviously the consolation literally handed to him on a plate. So he gets the goal, which I guess is good to see. I was interested to see Matassi were taken off just after the hour. Do you reckon that's just because essentially the game's gone? They're trying to prevent him from getting another booking? Because you end up with a midfield pairing of Ashley Young and Jens Kijusta, which is not what you'd expect.
24:14Stuart Watson:Yeah, remiss of me not to ask about that post-match, actually, in terms of Azul's substitution. But he did take a bit of a heavy kick a few moments earlier, so it might have been precautionary around that. There might have been the thought of him being one booking away and 3-0 down. It's a bit of a silly moment for him to go and get that booking in this game. So it might have been due to that. But, yeah, ultimately we end up with, for a small period in the game, Ashley Young and Jens Kajusta in midfield because a tired Jack Taylor had also been withdrawn at that stage, as or off. That's not a central midfield pairing that we thought we'd ever see.
24:59Stuart Watson:I thought Young did alright actually when he was in there for a period and then eventually Furlong came on and they had a bit of a Furlong went off and Young went to right back and there was a bit of a reshuffle but
25:15yeah
25:15Mark Heath:that was that Before we move on and talk about the bigger picture which I think is the more interesting stuff anyway in terms of players and the way they perform in this game is there anyone who's kind of emerging with a bit more credit than others Stu I know I think AJ gave Furlong man of the match I see There's a guy who does Player ratings ITFC data I think it was on Twitter After every game Where he uses a heat map And stats And that kind of thing He had key praise As the man of the match Quite a clear man of the match Is there anyone That you think is worthy Of highlighting Or
25:49Stuart Watson:I thought a very small Positive to take from it Was Sammy Schmoddick's Lively appearance off the bench. He looks like someone that's raring to go again to me after another frustrating injury setback in what's been a real stop-start calendar year for him. You see his reaction to the goal against Stoke. Who was the goal scorer against Stoke? Remind me.
26:19Mark Heath:Philogene, wasn't it? No, Igelli. Yeah.
26:24Stuart Watson:losing my mind now what's the Stoke was 1-0 yeah who did he come off he came on Coventry didn't he is that when Azon scored Azon sorry yeah so he makes his injury come back very late on 89th minute and it's the Azon goal is the one I'm thinking of and if you have a look Schmollix doesn't immediately run over to the celebrations because the attempted Azan pass was heading to him before it came back to Azan and I think he was frustrated that he didn't get his name on the goal on the score sheet there and then I watched him in the warm-up ahead of this game and he was the last one in and he was really sort of practising with real intensity I thought and he just looks like someone that's ready to make up for a bit of lost time and he comes on in this game and ran around and looked quite lively and gave a bit of spark.
27:25Stuart Watson:So, yeah, a slight positive to take from a disappointing afternoon. It was Philogine, of course, who scored against Stoke. Of course it was.
27:36Mark Heath:It's just all these games kind of blend into one, don't they?
27:38Stuart Watson:I mean, Coventry, yeah, Coventry's only just over a week ago and it already feels like a lifetime ago already, doesn't it? Yeah.
27:47Mark Heath:Where are we with Sam or Sammy? because I know in some quarters he's now being called Sam. Has he officially switched to the shorter versions too? Is he still Sammy? Is it just a free-for-all, whatever you feel like? Don't know.
28:00Stuart Watson:I don't know if there's been an official renaming there. Absolutely.
28:04Mark Heath:We need to get the official ruling on that. All right, Stu, so 3-1 defeat. Once again, we find ourselves back here in the glass half full, glass half empty, bigger picture chat. I think looking at it, and I've just been editing Carl Fuller's column for tomorrow. He makes a point in which he says that if you'd taken six points from these three games, you'd have been pretty happy with that. You know, two-point average. Had they lost to Coventry, for example, and then beaten Stoke and Leicester, we'd be sitting there going, yeah, pretty decent return. So it's just, again, the manner of the fact that they've got two really good wins and they've gone and laid an egg at Leicester and turned in another unconvincing performance, which immediately then dampens the mood.
28:46Mark Heath:So where are you, Stu, in the old glass half or glass half empty, various other chats debate?
28:52Stuart Watson:Yeah, I think that's a fair point in terms of the points tally from the week. I think it just feeds into this frustration around inconsistency, doesn't it? And it's not just about the points tally, because if you have a look at it, if you extend that to the seven games in 22 days, It's three wins, two draws, two defeats, which is not a terrible points tally. It's 11 points from seven games, which is three below that two points a game average. This one, for me, going and losing at Leicester in a game that was changed by some fantastic strikes at the end of a really busy period isn't going to be what makes or breaks this season for Ipswich.
29:44Stuart Watson:It's going to be Oxford, Blackburn, Charlton, Derby, Rexham, Watford, those games that have kind of slid by for varying reasons. They're all in the bottom half, those teams, by the way. Ipswich got four points from those matches. so yeah I think the bigger picture debate is that win, lose or draw this season in general we're still waiting to be fully convinced aren't we and this is another performance that feeds into that I don't know how to feel right now I've said it a few times this season I've normally got a bit of a gut feeling or I can say with sort of confidence that, you know, don't worry, it's going to be all right.
30:40Stuart Watson:I've seen enough to know it's going to be fine or actually I'm a little bit worried that I'm seeing a trend here. I genuinely don't know, Mark, and we're nearly half a season in at the moment. And I don't know if this team is going to kick on. We were talking before this pod started. I think I said in a previous pod that we keep saying when they hit top gear, maybe there isn't a top gear. And maybe that's all right. Maybe this is about embracing the grind this season and it's going to be this way as it has been from here to the end of the season. And if it is, they end up probably around 80-something points and in the playoffs, and then who knows what happens.
31:24Stuart Watson:If I was a betting man, I'd probably be putting my pound on that being the case at the moment. They're not looking like a top two team at the moment, are they?
31:34Mark Heath:No, but I think that really resonates with me, Stu, what you said there about, you know, always using this term, when's it going to click? When's it going to be lift off? When's it going to be top? Maybe it's just not, you know, and we've kind of been spoiled, haven't we, by what's happened, you know, particularly those two seasons where they were extraordinary. but that is you know in terms of that kind of thing happening that's the outlier that's that kind of thing is not going to happen again realistically it's never going to be that good again we're never going to have that feeling again and right now it's which time a fifth in the table without really playing that well in what looks like a fairly average league yeah and is that okay i mean they're they're going to more than likely be at least in the playoffs now you can then argue well they've spent loads of money and this and the other and obviously expectations are much higher than they were.
32:18Mark Heath:But surely we want a team that's competitive more than anything else and is likely to be involved in the sharp end of the season. So have we just been spoiled by what's happened and now we're expecting nothing else other than a tremendous season where they barely lose and go up is kind of seen as not good enough now. And generally speaking, that doesn't really happen in football that often.
32:41Stuart Watson:No. I mean, I had a look at it. This was an opportunity again to win three games in a row that slides by. They still haven't done that since that night against Southampton at the back end of the promotion season. Kieran McKenna says it's difficult to win games consecutively in this division. I had a look through it. I think Ipswich are the only team in the top seven that haven't won at least three in a row or more this season. So it can be done and Ipswich should be in a position to do it with the squad that they've put together and the money they've spent. I mean, I talked about it, it's five defeats now this season, which is one fewer than the entirety of that promotion season.
33:26Stuart Watson:And it feels like we're destined to never quite escape comparisons to that year. And this is the big problem where you talk about, have we been spoiled? Yes, because I felt this from very early on in this season. And nothing is going to really top that in terms of it being the perfect storm of a decade or so of apathy and pain and nothingness and then it all coming together in the way it did and the style of football and underdogs and... The players. Yeah, and that's what's kind of against Ipswich at the moment. The fan base are always going to compare that. and it's a fair comparison because people say we could have kept that.
34:10Stuart Watson:We could have still had that this season. Could we have done more to keep Morsi, Chaplin, Wolfie, Burgess, etc.? And might it have been different had that been the case? We'll never know. I'm not sure it's particularly healthy to keep looking back on that. We are where we are. I thought I got a feeling after Stoke that there was a bit more of a bond strengthening between the fans and this team. But it's never quite getting there at the moment, is it? It feels like that's another little step back, as you say, at the weekend. So, yeah, an interesting time. I said closer to 16th place Derby in the table than they are to second place Middlesbrough at the moment.
35:02Stuart Watson:I mean, it's a mad congested championship table. Eight points separating third and 16th at the moment.
35:13Stuart Watson:I don't know, Mark. What's your gut feeling? Which way do you feel it's heading?
35:18Mark Heath:I personally think they'll be OK. I mean, you know, they're almost kind of in fifth by default at the moment. They've not been great. But what is okay? Well, I think they'll be at least in the playoffs. Yeah. I agree. Top two maybe getting away from them. But if you just said they're going to be in the playoffs, they're going to be with a chance of going up, that's what we want from the season, isn't it? I know you can look at it on paper and go, well, they spent more money than anyone else, and therefore they should be 30 points clear at the top of the table. It doesn't work like that. That's not the way football works.
35:52Mark Heath:You have to build a team. and that's what they're still in the process of doing. It reminds me a little bit, actually, Stuart, of the League One promotion season, where, again, there were obviously high expectations. There was a big money side for that level. And for much of that season, they kind of were stop-start, weren't they? And we obviously then recorded that podcast after the Bristol Rovers thing, where we literally said, are they good enough? And we wheeled off a lot of the problems which we've been talking about now, the rotation, style of play, predictability, all that kind of stuff.
36:20Mark Heath:And then, obviously, they went on that ridiculous, on beating run and got themselves promoted. So it feels to me a little bit like maybe that sort of season where when they finally, if they do finally gel or click, whatever you want to call it, it might be a couple of months down the line and then they go on a bit of a tear. But I think generally speaking, they are in the mix for promotion in what is a fairly average league. So I'm inclined to think.
36:47Stuart Watson:The League One comparison is a really interesting and a good one, I think, with that promotion season because, yeah, the pressure was on for Ipswich to get promoted that year. And, you know, that 0-0 at Bristol Rovers on Valentine's Day, wasn't it, with Morsi going over to the fans and confronting them afterwards and it was like all the scars of the past were kind of old wounds reopen. Here we go again, typical Ipswich. still going to blow it and all that sort of stuff and the january transfer window played a massive part didn't it in in that season with broadhead and clark and luongo and um who else is hearst coming on that in that window as well yeah um so there is still january to come in this season and and it may have have a have a role to play um the point about it being an average division i would agree with.
37:49Stuart Watson:I'm still waiting for anyone to kind of blow my socks off in terms of someone I've seen up close and personal. I was waiting to see what Coventry are all about. Obviously, we didn't see them anywhere near at their best last week. I thought Stoke looked at a decent side, but I look at that top six with Preston and Millwall in there. Can they last the pace? I don't know. They feel like sort of Nick McCarthy type Ipswich teams from a few years back that were kind of quite functional and consistent. But will it be enough to keep them there or get them over the line? I'm not convinced. The issue is, and you don't want to get too far ahead of yourselves.
38:30Stuart Watson:It might not be like this division, might not be like this a year. If Ipswich don't do it this season, you're into year two, the final year of parachute payments. the pressure's well and truly on then to get promoted. And you could have Wolves and whoever else dropping down from the Prem. If Southampton and Leicester don't do it this year, they probably, you know, get stronger to go again. And it's a different kettle of fish next year. So it's all very well, I say. They'll be okay. They'll be fine. They'll finish in the 80-odd points and they'll finish in the playoffs.
39:10Stuart Watson:but is that enough? Should that be enough given what they've spent and the time they've had to prepare for this as well? They've known really for a long time they were heading to the championship and really they're sort of chasing their tail a little bit because of the mad late scrambling in the transfer window which could that have been handled a bit better? Is that going to prove costly over time? they're all the sort of questions that people, you know, are fair to ask, I think.
39:40Mark Heath:100 % they're fair. And nothing, you know, it's not been perfect, has it? But then nothing in life is. No. Apart from, obviously, that season they went up when everything was rosy and they just seemed like to be this relentless winning machine. But that is, as I said, that's the outlier. You don't get seasons like that very often. And to then be expecting that again, you know, you're always going to be hiding to nothing, I think.
40:00Stuart Watson:And that team went through, Kieran McKenna always talks about this in terms of you have to have shared experiences as a group to get to where he wants them to be. And it's very easy to forget, and I keep saying it, that that revered team that everybody loved had some rocky moments on the way. Some of them took a little while to find their feet. As a team, they had some setbacks along the way. The Charlton 4-4 game with conceding the goals and various other moments along the way that proved to be, and I know people now always go, oh, here he is, talking about learning lessons again, and it's boring, and we don't want to hear it.
40:44But this is a new group now that is learning, you know,
40:49Stuart Watson:learning on the job and going through some experiences. And you can learn so much in a classroom, but nothing like real life teaches you, does it? And, you know, we just have to hope that they are going to pick up a few lessons from some of the things that have happened this season and put it into practice in the second half.
41:08Mark Heath:On that note, Stu, the one thing they do need to learn pretty quickly is how to win games after falling behind. You mentioned the Jeremy Samiento moment. That's the last time they won a game after being behind. That's what was that, April 1st, 2024. So a year and a half. and McKenna has made reference to that a few times, hasn't he, in terms of we can work on our reaction to what happens when we go behind. That's your silly question now, but what's your take on that? Do you see kind of players kind of drop their heads and kind of be impacted by going behind more than they should be? Because clearly that's something that has been a great trait of Ipswich Town in, again, harking back to that promotion run, you never felt like they were beaten, even if they did go behind.
41:55Mark Heath:You always thought they could come back and score more goals than the opposition. And you don't get that feeling clearly now, and the stats back that up with this Hitchfield side.
42:03Stuart Watson:Yeah. The first thing I'd say is they have scored three last-minute equalisers this season. Birmingham opening day, Derby, Blackburn. So that's not completely gone, and there's been, but definitely a comeback win is something to tick off. They've gone behind in 10 games and they've got five points from those. So, got five draws and five defeats in those. So, if you wanted to put a positive spin on it, in half of the games they've gone behind, they've still managed to get something. The comparison again, we're going back to the comparison with the promotion season, but I think that it was different then because Ipswich was seen differently then.
42:51Stuart Watson:They were the newly promoted team that were underdogs and maybe underestimated for quite a big chunk of that season. And so when teams went ahead against Ipswich, now it's something to defend against. It's something to protect against Ipswich. And we've seen the difficulties with breaking down the deep block In that promotion season, teams kept playing quite open and Ipswich had that mentality of as soon as we go behind, we go back to get another goal. That's a little bit easier when you're playing against more open teams. So every time we make this comparison to the promotion season, it is comparing apples and pears a little bit, I would say.
43:40Stuart Watson:I've seen a lot of stuff about does this team care enough? Is there enough passion? Is there enough bite? Leif Davis is talking about, I'd go to war for any of the boys in this dressing room. I think Dara O'Shea is really starting to grow as a leader. Matt O'Shea is someone that can't be accused of not being up for the fight. Jack Taylor is someone who's smashing into tackles. no I don't know if I'd go as far as sort of saying this isn't a team that's got enough heart in it at the moment um well again I'll throw it back to you you do you sense that you're a fighting man are you you're seeing enough passion you're seeing enough desire out there is it is that is that an element of this what it's like a it's a kind of intangible that it's hard to measure isn't it i would say that you know comparison is the thief of joy isn't
44:37Mark Heath:it and therefore if you're constantly comparing this side to the the side that we all love so much you you're on a hiding to nothing like i've already said the only way they can show they've got that heart and they've got that ability is by doing it um and as you say that's something they have to tick off thus far i you know clearly this is a side with much and again it might be part of the issue is that this side is packed with players who are on big wages have been brought in with big money and expect to start every single game whereas the previous side were players all a bunch of underdog players all pulling towards something that none of them had ever done which is get to the premier league really uh and there was so much more defined in their roles as well whereas this side we don't have that do we everyone you'd imagine everyone thinks they should really be starting um so that's another another kind of problem that mckenna has to work on and solve But I will say, if anyone's going to find a way of gelling a team, it's going to be Kieran McKenna.
45:33Mark Heath:He's done it already with that team that were languishing in League One and he took them all the way to the Premier League. I'm fairly confident they're going to be all right again under him. But you can't, it's hard to sit here now and say, well, they've got no heart. They've got no desire. Because how do you measure that unless they come out and literally say that? who are we to judge the size of a man's heart as they say in boxing but they have to show it they have to come out and prove they can do it because that's clearly one of the key signs of a good team the key the key traits of a team is being able to come back and win games that they've gone behind you but you make a good point next year with the fact that they have come from behind they just haven't won games so it's not as if as soon as they go behind they just fall apart and get beat four or five every time.
46:21Mark Heath:That's not the case. But it is, again, we are at this juncture, which I feel I've been at a lot of times this season, where you've sort of felt that it's lift-off. You know, the Sheffield United game, oh, they're going to be all right now. And then, again, they take a step backwards with the Middlesbrough game and games after that as well.
46:41Stuart Watson:I think we forget in football the time element of it as well. Like, Coventry are doing what they've done this season after building with a fairly consistent group over a period of years to get to this point. Ipswich got to that point, as I say, with Kieran McKenna comes in midway for a season, has six months, doesn't quite do it, bumps in the road during that League One promotion season. That was 18 months in the making before they then became what they were in the championship. we are now effectively well middle of december three and a half months post transfer window three and a half months that's nothing is it you know that's 14 weeks you think what if you can relate it to starting a new job or moving to a new country or something like that and what you would be expected to do within sort of 14 weeks um just because the games come thick and fast and the narrative changes so quickly all the time.
47:48Stuart Watson:I do think we forget how little time there has been with a completely new group at the moment. I do think the money side of it, and this is a general football thing now, is, you know, football's in danger of eating itself, isn't it? But like with the FIFA World Cup tickets and all of that. But generally, the money that washes around in the game, it's easier to it's easier to love the underdog isn't it and it's now Ipswich are the big boys and this squad cost 130 million pounds and all of that and pressure and expectation so every little every little knockback feels like there's a bigger stick to beating with because you should be doing better and um we've not felt that it's we've not had that for a very very long time for those of us associated with Ipswich so it's a new feeling it's it's one we're getting used to
48:42Mark Heath:It's also that you mentioned the football generally, Stuart. It feels like every season, the discourse and the kind of narrative around every single result gets more and more intense. So they win a game, everything's brilliant and they're going up and then they lose a game and everything's rubbish. And the players are useless and McKenna, you know, sort his ideas out. You look at the Celtic boss, Wilfred Nancy. He's come in, he's lost three games. Already people are saying he should be sacked. um it's just there was time is not a commodity you get in football anymore is it you either win now or you're useless um so again it all kind of adds up to this kind of debate around every single minutiae of every single game but clearly that's football and that's why we love it because it it's uh it's fun to talk about and debate and and and trade opinions and that's what we've been doing i think now for about 25 minutes to it's been a bit of a group therapy session is there anything else you want to mention before we head on and crack on with our Monday?
49:42Stuart Watson:No, I don't think so. Yeah, I'm sure a week on the training pitch will do them a bit of good. Not much sort of training time, not much rest time for anyone sort of involved with it all, really. So hopefully a little bit of a rest, a reset, and then they can go again for this, you know, gets hectic again for Christmas, doesn't it? Of course it does. Christmas crunch.
50:08Mark Heath:Should we be worried about Saturday, though, Stu? Crisis Club Sheffield Wednesday. They're not going to come and play expansive football, are they? They're going to park the bus. It's going to be the old breaking down the low block issue again.
50:20Stuart Watson:Possibly, yeah. And they'll be... I just... Yeah. It's a shame because... Yeah. Having done so much to build that... Start to build those bonds with the two home games previously. I don't know how much... Because it was a good travelling contingent at Leicester. 3 000 plus how much that has kind of done to to damage that um but a week off everyone back at portman road the majority of whom will have will still have some good memories from from coventry stoke hopefully the atmosphere is good and um they can rise to the occasion absolutely uh friends
50:56Mark Heath:that's going to bring us to the end of this podcast we've done 50 minutes um which feels like a nice tight little uh review of what happened at the weekend and a general wider a bit of a group therapy debate. Whichever side of the debate you fall on, let us know. Because as I say, football is a game more about opinions and chat. That's the fun of it. Talking of chat, Kare Live 3, which was meant to be obviously on Saturday, as the boys revealed last week and we shared on social media, that's had to be postponed. So obviously sad news, not something we wanted to do. But to try and make up for it, we're going to bring you a live pod virtually this Thursday, our Christmas special from seven o 'clock live across our YouTube and Facebook channels.
51:34Mark Heath:So join us for that. We're going to be talking, obviously, about the season so far. We're going to be looking ahead to Sheppard Wednesday. We're going to be taking a lot of questions, mobile questions. So get involved. You can actually ask us questions live and maybe have a little chat about January transfer window as well and what might be needed going into that. So join us on Thursday. And obviously, just to remind us about our sponsors, use the code KOA at startofspirits.co.uk for 20 % off all the excellent spirits, alcoholic beverages, lots of stuff to get involved in for christmas there and also use the code koa 10 at molecular-uk.com just check that i haven't got that one off the top of my head yet yeah molecular-uk.com for 10 off all their excellent cleaning products for your car and various other bits and bobs get your alloys shined up and your interior looking nice and smelling nice for the the christmas travel which is inevitable at christmas you go all over the place don't you christmas uh and also friends uh a reminder of a couple of competitions we've got running at the moment.
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53:54Mark Heath:So, yeah, good to have that on offer to our subscribers as well, Stu.
53:59Stuart Watson:Yes, it is indeed, yeah. I'll just give you another look for those subscribers watching on video. There it is, Nunez, 32, signed by the man himself. He's written 32 next to his signature on the three of 32 on the back of the third shirt, which uh yeah has really grown on me that's now i've got one it's really in the flesh it's uh it's nice that so um it's up for grabs for uh one of our lucky subscribers yeah so again you can
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The duo hear from Kieran McKenna, reflect on Town’s underwhelming display and ponder the goals conceded.
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