621: Kings of Anglia: The perfect Easter for Town

27:29But essentially with him off the pitch, I thought Ipswich lost all their composure. But at the same time, with bringing Anis Mometti onto the pitch, I thought that Mometti was kind of the instigator of a lot of what Ipswich wanted to do going forward. And his introduction sparked them into life a little bit with that comeback. So in that five-minute period where they did score the goals and did come back to lead the game and go on to win it, I thought that that change, albeit forced, was perfect and did exactly what was required. At the same time, wow, after the break, Ipswich, as all matters, were definite issues there.

28:06Which sets us up perfectly for the next talking point, which is that second half struggles. We know it's been an issue that Town haven't turned and in a consistent full performance, if you like, for a while. And that was definitely the case after the break here. Ross, what did you make of it watching? Because watching on TV, it was a bit of a struggle. They were very flat, and some players completely vanished in the second half.

28:30Ross Halls:Yeah, I think we need to make a new rule. Halftime, let's not have a halftime, just continue playing. Just crack on, yeah. Yeah, because halftime was annoying because Town had that momentum. They could have gone on to score 3, 4, 5 if they really wanted to. And, yeah, unfortunately, that stopped everything. And then second half, I can't really remember what happened, to be honest, because Matt was really poor for both sides. Birmingham, they, of course, then are trying to find an equaliser, which we'll get on to, I'm sure. But I don't know. This town just lacked urgency, really. I don't know. I think maybe we were just happy with 2-1.

29:08Ross Halls:I think we're just like, OK, you know, Birmingham probably not going to offer anything. thing we can't you know um i don't know just it just felt so just meh i don't know um as you mentioned somebody some players just snackered dan neal bless him he um probably that wasn't in the script probably him playing you know the amount of minutes he played um but also fair play to mckenna so maybe not do a like for like for us all matters he could have brought on jack taylor or jens guzste but he brought him a metty um and of course that changed the game in the first half But second half, yeah, sadly, it's become a bit of a regular occurrence.

29:47Ross Halls:You know, thankfully, we didn't need to worry. You know, Birmingham didn't get that goal, although we get on to. But yeah, just not a great second half, which has become a running theme. Was it for you, AJ, you mentioned there not having Azor in. Obviously, we'll talk about Azor in a bit. Was that the kind of way you saw the problems coming from in the second half or any other reasons? Clearly, there were players playing in spots they wouldn't have anticipated playing before the game. Yeah, I think it's a big part of it. I think that there was a lot of times where Ipswich players essentially were looking to him and he wasn't there because he's the only player.

30:23I know that Daniel has a lot of similarities and being without Azor doesn't feel as big a blow as it would have been four or five months ago. but there's no one like him so when Ipswich players look for him to do the things he does and he's not there it's quite a culture shock for them so given that I think the biggest problem then was ball retention because they struggled to win back the ball and when they did get the ball back actually holding it was really difficult and that's what Matasiva is so good at and protecting the back line those kind of very seamless tackles where he doesn't even get short sturdy with the way that he comes in or all of those things that um ipsuch really lacked in that second half so being without him was a big blow um at the same time it wasn't just down to that because they did get into good areas and essentially just weren't good enough they were too slow decision making was poor i think it was a tired group and you could sense that the second half for me broke down into one team that was pushing, but ultimately have nothing to play for and are not a very good team in Birmingham.

31:33You've seen that with the results and where they are on the table. And an Ipswich team that have no match fitness because the only game they've played in the last two and a half weeks was a behind closed doors friendly against West Ham. So there's the difference there. Birmingham had gone and played that 90 minutes against Blackburn on Good Friday. Town don't have the same kind of freshness and you could see that one team was getting a bit of a second wind and the changes also impacted that. I thought that Ibrahim Osman coming on was a huge game changer for Birmingham. The pace he had, the way he hits a ball probably could have on another day had a brace, to be perfectly honest.

32:11He was the real outlet. And Ipswich didn't have the same kind of feeling about them because the starters were tired for playing more than an hour 70-80 then towards 90 minutes and the substitutes who came on also didn't have that freshness because they just haven't been playing. Yeah, Ross, the elephant in the room there, AJ's just mentioned, Osman, and Birmingham should have had an equaliser, shouldn't they? I mean, Chris Davies came out after the game and said it was scandalous, absolutely scandalous decision. We scored a legitimate goal, and I have yet to see an angle of replay which conclusively says that ball was out of play.

32:47Did you get a look at this? Have you seen it since? What do you make of it?

32:50Ross Halls:Yeah, I was right in front of it, and I want to give a shout-out though to Osmond because I was really impressed by him because I was basically in his line the whole second half and I was like, who's this lad? It's just town. Sign him up. It was really good and I was right in front of that moment and obviously I was a bit deflated when the goal went in and then when the ref decided no goal, I was like, okay. That's fine. That ball was not over the line but okay. and sometimes you need to get the rub of the greens especially with some of our refereeing decisions in recent well this season as a whole I'll take that but I can understand Birmingham's frustrations and their manager because they were really on the up weren't they they really were threatening to get an equaliser but yeah we've got goal line technology but we haven't obviously got goal line you know that's not in the golf so yeah once again the lino wouldn't be able to see it so it would have been the ref's decision and you know what it's happened move on whatever what did McKenna say about it afterwards AJ it was something along the lines of he's not going to lose any sleep over it I mean Ross makes a good point there in terms of things that have gone against town so far this season yeah I think McKenna didn't do it I haven't seen it he said I've been shown some images which I think he kind of said can be seen either way which to me said he's been shown like two photos which show it was in reading behind the lines or sorry between the lines and I think the kind of the feeling was yeah probably should have been a goal but at the end of the day we've been mugged off with enough of these decisions over the last few weeks that I'm not going to be shedding any tears over Birmingham not having this one.

34:50Not actually what he said, but essentially saying I haven't seen anything definitive from the angles that I've seen. But yeah, not losing any sleep was the term that Kieran McKenna used. Two sides of it for me. One, I think that, again, I don't care because it's actually been robbed enough times with poor decisions if you think that, look at the position they're in now. In another world, they should be four points clear of where they are now, and they get two extra points against both Leicester and Stoke, but they don't. On the other side, it again shows that we need better levels of officiating in some ways, but also in technology.

35:30It shouldn't just be in the Premier League. And I'm not going to say, no, let's get VAR in or anything like that. But when there's millions and millions of pounds on the line for these clubs and you have these kind of decisions going against teams, the levels both of officials and of technology need to be significantly better. Also, just to mention second half, obviously Christian Walton makes a really good save towards the end of the game. Was that again from Osman? I can't remember. I can't remember who it was. It was Osman, yeah. And he got his fingertips to it and he pushed it against the post.

36:03Great save from Walton. And O'Shea on the rebound as that one as well, I should say. Try and get the rebound in and O'Shea makes a really big block to deny that. That was a really big moment. Yeah, I know Ross wants to sign Ibrahim Hilsman now, but I don't want any more left-wingers, thanks. He is really good, though, but no more dribbly left-wingers. Never say never, especially if they go up. Anyway, injuries. Obviously, clearly post-match a conversation. We've already touched on Azor getting injured. Ivan Azor wasn't even in the squad. Wes Burns was meant to be starting. He couldn't play. So do you just want to bring us up to speed on that, AJ?

36:39Then we can maybe have a little bit of a chat around, particularly Matasiba and what a blow that would be. Yeah, I mean, the hope with Azor is that it's not going to be that bad would be the real hope with this one because he went down in the first half and then tried to play on. I think he initially went down kind of around 15 minutes, I think. I thought it was a Connor Chaplin tactical move. And then I kind of thought, would Azor be the one you'd put into that situation? He played on and looked absolutely fine, but then ended up coming off. was really out of the blue the way he was withdrawn.

37:15I really didn't think it was going to happen, but he looked okay. Kieran McKenna's confirmed it's a dead leg. I don't know much about dead legs, but Ross informs me that he's had one after a lot of five-a-side, so that suggests to me that he'll be good and ready to go for Norwich. No, probably doesn't, but we'll have to see. There's every chance I'd say that he features and starts in that game. We'll see how he recovers and get an update from Kieran McKenna on Thursday. We imagine the press conference will be, even as on had a calf issue that kept him out of this one. He picked this one up during the international break.

37:48I've heard some suggestions that might have been during that West Ham friendly, but I'm not too sure. Either way, it happened in the last couple of weeks while the others were off on international duty. Not available against Birmingham and Kieran's liners. We don't know for the other games coming up yet, which suggests to me that I don't think he's going to feature against Norwich and we'll have to see beyond that one. And Wes Burns again was close, had a little setback was what Kieran said. And again, we'll be assessed over the next few days to see whether he can play a part against Norwich. But when you look at all of the areas, you think about how Casey stepped in for Wes Burns, you think about how George Hurst, I would agree, I thought was some aspects that frustrated me, but some bits I really liked of his game.

38:33The big concern is going to be Azor Matasiwa because he is so much to Ipswich Town and you saw that in the second half when he didn't play. Go on then, Ross. You're a man with clearly a lot of experience of having dead legs. Do you reckon Azor is going to be able to play Saturday?

38:49Ross Halls:Yeah, he's a beast. I think with a bit of recovery and all the stuff he's got, physios and that, you'll be fine. Yeah, there's just one five-a-side session, sorry, I don't know why I'm going to this, where I got hit. I don't know, I got hit and I was like, oh, it took me a while and you're sort of limping. It is difficult to play on. Um, so he tried his best. Um, and thankfully he was able to walk on his own, but sometimes you just can't shake off. But, um, I think he'll be fine. Uh, famous last words, but he should be fine. Uh, by the way, Heathie, just for the viewers, the subscribers, can you just central yourself a bit more?

39:27Ross Halls:Can you like move your camera? Can you like try to, could you like, do you know what it is? Cause I'm, I'm sick. I like to move around a lot. I can't really sit still. Um, and now in this new kind of look that we're doing, look, it's basically a square. it really it really it really highlights the fact how much i moved during podcasts yeah um so yeah i apologize ross from the the aesthetics um that's clearly triggered you and i apologize speaking of being triggered if you had any you just mentioned red mist have you had any more uh red mist on the old five-a-side pitch no i've been fine i've been fine um some people were surprised by that they were going i can't believe you would that's not you roscoe you're you know chilled laid-back lad but when i crossed that um those cages when i get into those cages i'm a different animal sometimes especially if uh something happens liam from crew actually i could have could have killed liam from crew the other week because um we were battling he normally stays in goal but for this session he came out and um he was like batting with me with a ball and i'm you know a bit of a slippery you know winger so i got got past him but what happened is my balance went a bit he pushed me and i went into the cage i hit my head on the wall and uh yeah it was one of those where i got up quickly but i stayed calm i think i realized it's liam from crew and i you know he's gave me a lot of lifts i was like i can't can't get angry but from with liam so um but no um there was no session yesterday because of course we had a game um but i'm gonna be heading to the the cages on thursday for father's side and uh nah i think i'll be fine don't bite the hand that feeds you in this case the hand that drives you uh okay then um final final talking point then today state of play as it is um looking very good for town aj couldn't have been better in terms of results over over the weekend they're now in second place borough and millwall obviously level on points but um town have two games in hand and if you look at it now you'd have to say that town are favorites to go up it's in their hands i think they need 16 points to to go up so 16 points from 21 which i suppose is what five wins in a draw that still sounds quite a lot from from seven games but the fact is it's in their hands yeah it is um trying to think about the the numbers behind this one essentially they've got goal difference depending they've got a cushion now which would allow them if they lose two games in the next seven, they would still be able to mathematically ensure that they're promoted to the Premier League.

42:00Again, that's kind of hinging on goal difference, but because they have these two games in hand on Borough and Coventry, they're in a really fantastic position now. And who would have thought this as recently as last Thursday? Because the results, you say, couldn't have gone much better. Yeah, maybe it would have been ideal if Borough and Millwall ended in the draw and maybe Borough had lost last night. But you end up with a situation where Borough have only picked up one point over Easter weekend and Emil will get three by losing to Norwich yesterday. Thank you very much, Canaries. That's a nice helping hand.

42:33And yeah, having that is really important because the running's tough. It's really difficult. So yeah, I think, what was the term you used at the start of the pub? Was it like overwhelming favourites to promotion? I'm not quite sure I'm buying into it. I think the bookies have bought into it. I haven't checked the odds, but I think the Ipswich will be with the bookies. very heavy favourites now to go and win promotion. You see a lot of Middlesbrough and Millwall, especially Middlesbrough, fans saying, well, that's it now. Might as well see who we're playing in the playoffs, which we'll go and do this again.

43:02Not quite sure, but there's definitely an opportunity there to go and grab it. That Middlesbrough game in particular looks mouth-watering and an opportunity where if town can go and win that to put clear daylight with a game in hand on Borough, if they can go and do that. tough games in there. Obviously, Saturday, going to Park won't be easy. Going to West Brom, given their situation, won't be easy. Saints, an ultimate game, albeit that's going to come after their FA Cup semi-final. That won't be easy. Ipswich, in my eyes, have the hardest running, but they have that buffer. They have that cushion now.

43:40So that puts them in a really good spot, and they can afford, although we don't want them to, we can afford them to drop some points, but they're also going to have to up their performance levels. because if they play like they did yesterday, especially in the second half, say against Norwich, they will lose. So, yeah, we're going to need to see some more, but this is a chance for them to really put their foot down and establish themselves in second place. How are you feeling about things, Ross, as we see here with seven games less for town and in a good position? And also, of course, speaking about another league table, a little resurgence from Ross in the predictions league.

44:13I don't know if you've got the standings to hand, but once again, I think it's two games in a row

44:18Ross Halls:you've got the score exactly bob on so you're on a row but uh um because i don't think i got i don't think anyone i thought you got millwall did you not no i think i predicted a draw but i think was it you that got one one or no aj got one one aj got one one i went that's right yeah yeah um but yeah we'll start with that because yeah it's second and you know doing well but prediction bang on, ladies and gentlemen. Total charge is on. Heathie, you're top of the league with 43 points. Nice little buffer there yourself. AJ with 39 points. Stu with 38 on 34, which seems a long way from you. Nine points, but I was further down the way, but getting four points has shot me up a little bit.

45:08Ross Halls:So Stu, I'm breathing down his neck. AJ. so if I get prediction bang on this weekend against Norwich first goal scorer in the prediction as a whole always back in the game baby back in there but Kieran McKenna's men it's in their hands and I think they're going to do it you know I think they're going to do it I know we've got some tough games but surely you know the form they're in at the moment they've not even been planned that well yeah technically against Birmingham 2-1 win they didn't play that great, really. And they got the win. And there's been other games like that where you're like, oh, three points, got the win.

45:48Ross Halls:You know, happy days. But these next seven games, they're going to be big. You know, they've got to turn up against Norwich because last time we went to Coward Road, they didn't. In fact, that didn't really matter in the end. Obviously, you know, winning a derby is always great, but in the end it didn't matter because we got promoted anyway. But yeah, the Borough game, as AJ mentioned, and that is going to be massive. I think that is actually going to be the decider in a way because if we beat them, surely that's ours now. That's ours to finish second. So I'm very confident right now, but they need to be playing better and I think they will.

46:26Ross Halls:And I think there's going to be certain players that are going to have moments. So yeah, bring on the next seven games. It's going to be exciting. Looking forward to it. It's interesting looking at the form, isn't it? Where you see Town, despite the fact that they haven't been playing very well. And I can't really think of the last time where I've come away from an Ipswich performance thought, yeah, that was really good. Maybe the Swansea game, but they're unbeaten in eight games now. And you look at Borough, winless in five, beaten at home by Charlton. Frustrated, yes, they could have easily lost that game.

46:57Frustrated by Bristol City and Blackburn. Yeah, they've got quite a kind running in a lot of ways. They host Pompey, but Pompey have a lot to play for. They don't want to go down. and you'd imagine we'll sit deep and try and frustrate on Saturday. And that is the one thing that the borough just cannot handle. They're still going to host Sheffield Wednesday. It feels like a bit of a gimme, but then Sheffield Wednesday went and drew Leicester yesterday, which all went down well in the Heath household. Watford, and they've still got to go to Wrexham as well on final day, which is a really difficult game by the looks of things.

47:27Millwall lost two of their last five now. They're in better shape, but even then when they kind of slip up and have a poor performance, They lose. They lost to Blackburn. Yeah, okay. It was an unfair red card. They lost to Norwich, but they deserve to lose to Norwich. And again, a kind of run in them what Ipswich have. They've got to host QPR, go to Stoke, go to Leicester, host Oxford. But West Brom on Friday is a really difficult game. And then there are also the final two games they've got are against teams who are going to be scrapping for their lives massively to try and get those points in Leicester and Oxford.

48:03So factoring all of that in, It feels like Ipswich are in a good spot. They've got teams as well that will come up. You would hope that, for example, Charlton, by the time that Ipswich go to Charlton, Charlton will be mathematically safe. What are Charlton going to have to play for? Hopefully nothing. You would hope the same with West Brom by the time that Ipswich go to West Brom. By the time that Ipswich go to Southampton, maybe Southampton's automatic hopes would have been totally dashed and they'll be comfortable in the playoffs. They'll be a bit shattered after their FA Cup semi-final against Man City.

48:30They host QPR on final day and that's a game where, again, QPR hopefully will have nothing to play for. You'd imagine that their season's done already, you'd say. So factoring all of those things in, it is daunting, but yeah, they're in the best shape. And unlike the other teams, when Ipswich don't play well, they still get results. And that is the makings, the markings, sorry, of a top team. Absolutely. Okay, right, next then. It's only Norwich away, isn't it, bloody hell? Big game. couldn't be bigger actually at this stage of the season and they will be absolutely frothing at the gills to stick a spanner in the works for its switch town and obviously they're in very, very, very good form as well.

49:12Before we get to the actual game, and clearly we're going to talk about that in Grotesque later in the week, AJ, you asked a question to McKenna about this yesterday and not for the first time, you'd have to bring people up to speed on this. He mugged you off, old friend. Shall we hear it? Final one from me. Nice to have a full week now to focus on what is quite a significant game for a lot of fans going into Saturday, Norwich on the weekend.

49:36Kieran McKenna:I don't know if this counts. Does Monday to Saturday morning count as a full week? You must have a short working week at the East Anglian Times. A full week for me is not Monday evening to Saturday morning. It's nice to have a few days to prepare the game. It's East Anglian Daily Times. Get with the brand, Kieran. Exactly. AJ, it brings up speed then because this is becoming a bit of a recurrent theme Yeah I've had it a few times I've had different instances that happened at Kieran McKenna press conferences there was a time that he got interrupted by his own Apple Watch answering one of my questions I enjoyed that one there was a time I got very brutally shut down when asking about why Marcelino Nunez played on during the Leicester game, which was fair I thought it was a fair question to ask me I think I got a fair response but definitely shut down any questions about that one.

50:32I put Kieran at one point that... I essentially asked, how has it been preparing for these games where teams have made very drastic changes, such as dropping the pot like Swansea did or Watford playing a back five? And he basically said, well, I hope that our preparations are a bit better than yours. Fair enough. Thank you, Kieran. And then this one, again, this week. I knew it was coming because as I asked it, I saw his face kind of shrivel up. And I knew he was going to say something. And yeah, that was the one he came out with. Got the name of the paper wrong, but we'll allow it for this one.

51:15Yeah, I mean, he's got a fair point. Look, I still think it's longer than you'd usually get if it was a Tuesday night. And it's longer than you'd get if you're Millwall playing on a Friday night. You've got time, Kieran. I'm sure he was sat down with a A nice glass of red watching four hours of Y Scout clips of Norwich from the Millwall game. He'll be prepared. He's got time. But he does like mugging me off, that is for sure. And I think, AJ, I mean, taking people behind the scenes, there was an incident a few weeks ago, wasn't there, where you essentially turfed him out of his own meeting. Yeah, kind of.

51:50So in the press conference, the press conference also doubles up as the place where the players and staff do a lot of their meetings. And we get to work in there for a little bit until we essentially get kicked out after the game. It's me and Phil from TWTD working in there after the pre... It might have been Sheffield Wednesday press conference, I think. And usually, some member of Academy staff will come and say, oh, sorry, we need the room. This time, Kieran just burst through the doors, kind of trailed by about five members of his coaching staff. They were about to do a tactical kind of session, I believe, looking ahead to the game.

52:28He then realised that we were in there, to which he said, bloody hell, what are you guys still doing here so long after the press conference? And then as we were about to get up and move, he got all of his coaching staff together and just said, no, no, no, we'll go find another room, it's okay. And we're trying to say, no, it's okay, Kieran. You can prepare for the game in here. But he wasn't having any of it and off he went to go and find another room. Hopefully that went okay. I think it was before Shovel Wednesday, so at least they went on to win that game. But yeah, maybe that still lingers in the back of his mind.

52:57And every time I ask something, he's thinking of how to mug me off in return. Yeah, well, friends, exciting. He stews off this week, half term, innit? So there will be another round to look forward to of AJ versus McKenna. Not quite so adversarial, of course, but something to look out for. Thursday's press is obviously light. It's very light-hearted. We should say that. How will Kieran mug AJ off this week? I'm sure there will be something. I don't know what it will be, but I'm sure that he'll have something up his sleeve for me. Ross looks like he wants to say something. You unmuted yourself.

53:34Ross Halls:No, I just remember back in the day, it was Mick McCarthy versus Stuart Watson. Now, that was adversarial back in the day. Facebook Lives and yeah, it was just like, oh, what's going to happen this week? And even Paul Lambert era as well. Obviously, once upon a time, Paul Lambert called Stu Steve. yeah famously well that's that's that's one of the best things he called him let's be honest various various other things he called him but yeah this is much more gentle i always remember mccarthy with that bloody water bottle you remember whenever it was stew's turn to ask questions he'd immediately grab a water bottle and throttle it before stew asked any questions it was like um like he was getting his frustration out before it even started that was that was pay-per-view tv back in the day wasn't it fantastic uh right then friends that brings us towards the end of this podcast uh have you either of you got any other business you want to raise you want to talk about in this in this sphere in this virtual chat room rossi if you look like you're thinking about something uh no i was thinking about something but no i don't think it's needed so um no business for me good um i have something i need to mention because um we've been meant we've been uh contacted by a guy called connor willgrove on on social media who i think lives in australia and he wanted us to highlight ahead of the derby game this weekend.

54:50There is a derby down under in Brisbane. It's Ipswich versus Norwich fans walking football match. Sort of football I can probably play now. Now I've retired from the game itself. It's on Sunday, the 12th of April at the Albion Sports Centre in Burdett Street in Brisbane. Kicks off at 11.30. So I know we've got quite a lot of people who listen to us in Australia. if that's the sort of thing you want to get involved in. You're around the Brisbane area. There we go. A chance to have a proper Derby day down under. AJ, anything from you? I'd love to go to Australia, but I'm worried that I would get eaten by a spider or something like that.

55:28But it definitely is on my list. You know what? I'll say it's very, very random, but I'll also say congrats to Lincoln City. I went to uni at Lincoln, and that's another story. The fact that they got promoted up to the championship about a decade on from being in non-league. Of course, as I've been familiar with, I think it was in non-league, wasn't it, when they played in Sipcich and then knocked Sipcich out of the cup and then won many a game against Sipcich in League One as well, or at least a handful. So, yes, I do not want to be heading to Sinselbank next season when they're in the championship, and hopefully Town will be in the Premier League.

56:02But it's a hell of a story and delighted for them, a club that I have followed due to uni. and yeah, really happy for them. Yeah, incredible, isn't it? All those years ago, as you say, beating town in the FA Cup live on national TV as a non-league side and now potentially, hopefully not, potentially could be in the same league as them again in the championship next season. Friends, that brings us to the end of this podcast. It's been a nice, concise 55 minutes and counting thus far. Just remind us of our sponsors, if you could, use the code KOA10 at molecular-uk.com for all their excellent car cleaning products.

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57:17Obviously, we'll be back later on this week to do just that. Have a great week until we speak again and we'll speak to you next time.

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