In short
The episode alleges a “cover-up” around Ghislaine Maxwell’s prison transfer and potential work-release eligibility during Donald Trump’s administration. It claims Maxwell was moved from a low-security facility to a minimum-security camp in Texas despite Bureau of Prisons/DOJ rules against transferring convicted child sex offenders, and that her classification codes may make her eligible for work release (e.g., working at a Starbucks/Michael’s). It argues the transfer followed Deputy AG Todd Blanche’s interviews and may involve witness tampering to protect Trump. Notable examples include references to Jeffrey Epstein’s “sweetheart” work-release arrangement negotiated by Alan Dershowitz.
Guests
none named; the host discusses reporting by Alison Gill and mentions lawyer David Oscar Marcus.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOExploring the Ghislaine Maxwell Cover-Up
0:00 to 6:25
Gain insights into the alleged cover-ups surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell's prison transfer and eligibility for work release.
“Well, it looks like we got another cover up within another scandal involving another department or agency of Donald Trump's administration about Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein.”
Democrats' Response to the Cover-Up
7:47 to 13:20
Explore the active measures House Democrats are taking to investigate the Bureau of Prisons and Ghislaine Maxwell's treatment.
“Now, what I love about what the Democrats are doing right now and organizations like Democracy.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Well, it looks like we got another cover up within another scandal involving another department or agency of Donald Trump's administration about Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein. We got it. We got a cover up inside of a cover up inside of another cover up. Now, the question is, is Alison Gill's reporting on Mueller? She wrote that Ghislaine Maxwell not only got transferred, as we all know, we can see with our own eyes from a low security prison to a minimum security camp, a luxury camp in Texas, did that transfer, including the receipts that Mueller, she wrote, saw. and we have a copy of it where it says out.
0:41Does that mean she is available and eligible, Ghislaine Maxwell, a convicted child sex predator, to have work released to work at a Starbucks near you? It's bad enough she got transferred that violated Bureau of Prisons policies because you don't transfer a sex predator. I think you can fill in the blank as to why. You don't put them into a lower security, all women penitentiary to let them, you know, be a predator and have more prey. You know, that's not how you punish the wolf for eating a chicken. You don't stick them in the chicken coop. And you don't let them go work at the local Starbucks to go shopping for, you know, more girls.
1:23So that's the reporting that out means out and that her classification got changed to allow a sex predator, good friend, best friend of Donald Trump, who gave testimony to Donald Trump's lawyer, Todd Blanche, and then got rewarded with the Beverly Hills of prison camps, that the reporting is she's available for work release.
1:49Michael Popok:Not that she's on work release, but that she's available for it. Now, here's the cover-up inside of the scandal inside of the cover-up. David Oscar Marcus, the lawyer for Ghislaine Maxwell, who's trying desperately to rehabilitate his client and make her into a victim so that he can get her a pardon, doesn't like the reporting from Mueller, she wrote, doesn't like the reporting that this person could be working at your local arts and crafts store at Michael's while she's on work release. He hates that story. So he denied it, but he didn't deny it in its entirety. He just said another day, another whatever phony story.
2:27The reporting again
2:28Michael Popok:is not that she is on work release. It's that she's eligible for it to show the depravity of it. And I'm going to cover it all right here on Legal AF and on Midas Touch on Michael Popok. Here's the scandal. Got new reporting today that we're still working on confirming that the Bureau of Prisons and Mr. William Marshall, the director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons, who's now maybe involved with another cover-up, is now denying that she has work release privileges. That's the least of his worries, by the way. I'll stand by Mueller she wrote and Alison Gill all day long. She's an intrepid reporter.
3:09Michael Popok:She documents her sources. She's got a copy of it. She's got the receipts. We put it up on the screen. David Oscar Marcus gives a half-hearted denial. Gives a half-hearted denial. We'll put that up on the screen as well. Another day, another false rumor about Ghislaine meant to unnecessarily inflame folks. I get you got a job to do. I get you're trying to be a zealous advocate for your client. Now, by the way, the work release was the same thing that Jeffrey Epstein got when he got that sweetheart deal that was negotiated by Alan Dershowitz, who himself got accused of being involved with the child sex trafficking ring.
3:49Michael Popok:At one point in his career, he also negotiated that sweetheart deal that allowed Jeffrey Epstein, the predator, to stay on the street to prey on people longer. And that's also the reporting in Mueller, she wrote. But you notice that David Oscar Marcus doesn't say, she's, that's that piece of paper. That's not what those codes mean. That's not what that classification means. Not saying that. He's implying, he creates a straw man. We call it in logical reasoning and debate world. He creates an argument that we're not making in order to defeat it. We're not making the argument that she's currently working at the Starbucks.
4:26Michael Popok:We're saying she's available to, she's eligible to. And now we're waiting for the next round of denials because the Trump administration now has the final nails in their own coffin. They're busy hammering and getting the Bureau of Prisons guy to say, that's not where she's not on work release or that's not what that means. Look, there's no, I'll tell you what's an immutable fact. She got transferred just hours after she gave testimony, which I'm sure is exculpatory, helpful to Donald Trump, you know, because she'll say anything to get out of jail. She was indicted for perjury. She was convicted of being a child sex abuser for women, sorry, girls as young as 14.
5:08She'll say anything to get out of a 20 year prison sentence.
5:11Michael Popok:She's only three years into, and she wanted to get out of that low security prison, which was up in Florida, because that wasn't fun. She wanted to go to camp. So that happened. We all, David, just speaking to David Oscar Marcus here for a minute, which I invite on the show. You want to come on and talk to me about this? Happy to do it. But don't BS the American public about this. She got transferred. She's a sex predator. The Bureau of Prisons guidelines and Department of Justice guidelines say she's not eligible to be transferred, period, because she's a sexual predator. They're so strict before the Trump administration took over about those rules that even if you were in, if you were, you pled guilty to something like a simple assault, but you were indicted and charged with sex crimes, but that's not what you were found guilty of or pled guilty to.
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7:51Michael Popok:And then, of course, the rest. Now, what I love about what the Democrats are doing right now and organizations like Democracy. We got a full court press going on right now with this Epstein issue. And we're trying to get to the bottom of this new cover-up about the Bureau of Prisons. I'll tell you who's also helping, House Democrats and senators like Sheldon Whitehouse, because now they're putting on the pressure. They've got dueling letters going to Marshall and to Pam Bondi, demanding all of the files and the records about the transfer from the low security to the minimum security camp. and now about the work release issue, all demanded by an official letterhead of these two people, putting pressure on them.
8:36Michael Popok:The House Democrats just wrote their own letter in which they said, look, let me read to you from that letter so you know what we're talking about here. And it's very similar to the letter that Sheldon Whitehouse wrote a week ago. And this is from the committee Democrats on the Judiciary Committee. Two weeks ago, this is to Marshall, who runs in Pan Bondi, because he works for the, it's an executive branch office agency, the Bureau of Prisons Bureau, and it reports to Pan Bondi. Two weeks ago, you inexplicably transferred Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirator, from a federal correctional institution to a far preferable and relatively luxurious minimum security prison camp in Texas.
9:23She was three years into a 20-year sentence for abusing minor girls as young as 14. The transfer follows Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche's private interviews of Ms.
9:33Michael Popok:Maxwell. Let's stop right there. Where are those interviews? Happened three weeks ago. If they were so helpful, you'd think they'd already be out. Another cover-up. Another cover-up data point. Put it on your, if you're keeping a big chart at home with red string and push pins, got another data point for the cover-up. Where is it? Are they editing them? Are they, again, are they editing film footage related to Epstein again? This action, the Democrats write, raised substantial concerns that the administration may now be attempting to tamper with a crucial witness. Witness tampering, that sounds like something Donald Trump has done before.
10:11Michael Popok:Concealed President Trump's relationship with the convicted sex offenders, best friends with both Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein, and coaxed Ms. Maxwell into providing false or misleading testimony in order to protect the president. And it violates DOJ and BOP policies about the transfer. And we want to also demand all documents about the interview and the sudden transfer and greater freedom for inmates that she's now been given, which is off limits to sex offenders.
10:41Michael Popok:and Senator Whitehouse did the exact same thing a week ago in demanding his files. This is what a party out of power, the Democrats in the minority position, need to do. They send letters, they demand files. When Bondi and Marshall come before these committees, they grill them, they roast them the way that they can, they hold shadow hearings. This is what you have to do until you get back into the midterms. The other things we do is we talk to each other here. We provide all the information that you need. You know, Legal AF, Midas Touch, Katie Fang News Channel. We are drilling down heavy artillery on this issue.
11:19We're unrelenting in its coverage. The cover up between the cover up inside the conspiracy inside yet another cover up.
11:27Michael Popok:And then public interest groups are running into court like Democracy Forward, which has an amazing playlist, joins me every week over on Legal AF, the YouTube channel. And they have filed the first Freedom of Information Act request on an emergency expedited basis in front of Judge Chetkin, of all judges, the judge that was responsible for the criminal trial of Donald Trump about D.C. election interference. That case is now where the summary judgment has been filed in that case, asking for expedited ruling by the judge to get the damn Epstein files out of the Trump administration, all 300 gigabytes and two tractor trailer loads of information and produce it.
12:10Michael Popok:And then the senators and congresspeople are doing this. This is how we join together. and I'm sorry, we may be like a dog with a bone, but we're not letting go with this bone. Think about what it indicates. The President of the United States needs a convicted child sex offender to vouch for him? What does that tell you about the depravity and immorality of the person occupying the White House if you didn't know it already? We'll continue to follow it all right here every hour on Midas Dutch, every hour on Legal AF YouTube channel. Until my next report, I'm Michael Popak. Can't get your fill of Legal AF?
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