Jack Smith Blows Up GOP Hearing with Trump Bombshells

17 Dec 2025 · 20 min · 9 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that House Republicans tried to block public testimony from Special Counsel Jack Smith, but his opening statement (described from reporting) undermined Trump. It also promotes Colorado AG Phil Weiser as an effective anti-Trump legal fighter.

Guests/backgrounds

No formal guests appear. The hosts mention Ryan Reynolds (Mint Mobile ad) and cite Colorado AG Phil Weiser (campaign promo). Jamie Raskin is quoted via clip.

Key claims

Smith said DOJ proof met or exceeded “beyond a reasonable doubt,” higher than indictment’s probable-cause standard. He claimed Trump and associates urged members of Congress to delay 2020 election certification as part of a criminal scheme, using phone billing records to identify who called whom. The hosts argue GOP media strategy will “spoon feed” and hide transcripts/video.

Notable examples

Smith’s Jan. 6 indictment themes; “Arctic haze” phone-record investigation; references to Mueller and other special counsels testifying; Weiser suing Trump 65 times; Weiser protecting Obamacare from tariffs and winning against Ticketmaster.

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Chapters

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Phil Weiser's Legal Actions Against Trump

0:00 to 0:27

Learn about Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser's legal battles against Trump.

“Seriously, why aren't Democrats in Washington doing more to stop Trump?”

Introduction to Jack Smith's Testimony

1:56 to 3:17

An overview of Jack Smith's recent testimony and its implications.

“Seriously, why aren't Democrats in Washington doing more to stop Trump?”

Jack Smith's Evidence Against Trump

3:21 to 4:32

Explore the evidence Jack Smith presented regarding Trump's actions.

“We don't have the video yet because it was behind closed doors because the MAGA Republicans don't want the American people to hear directly from Jack Smith, although we've heard directly from Jack Smith.”

Impact of January 6th on Democracy

4:35 to 7:25

Understand the significance of the January 6th attack and its legal ramifications.

“exploiting that violence on Jan 6th, President Trump and his associates tried to call members of Congress in furtherance of their criminal scheme, urging them to further delay certification of the 2020 election.”

Discussion on Jack Smith's Approach

7:28 to 10:53

Examine Jack Smith's nonpartisan approach in prosecuting high-profile cases.

“So he started to get his testimony out and he gave testimony to Andrew Weissman in a, I think it was actually overseas, about his investigation and the Department of Justice.”

Media Strategies Surrounding Trump's Prosecution

10:55 to 14:00

Analyze the competing media narratives regarding Trump's legal issues.

“Just like his testimony should be public.”

Jack Smith's Role and Trump's Response

14:00 to 16:40

Explores Jack Smith's investigation into Trump and the ensuing media strategies.

“If you read part one and you read it back to back with the Jan 6 committee's report, I don't even know why.”

Call to Action: Subscribe and Support

16:40 to 17:40

Encourages listeners to subscribe to the Legal AF YouTube channel and Substack.

“Remember when the Department of Justice was proud?”

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

18:49 to 19:20

Wraps up the episode discussing the importance of Democratic efforts against Trump.

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0:00Seriously, why aren't Democrats in Washington doing more to stop Trump? I know. Have you heard about Phil Weiser in Colorado, though? No. Is he different? Yeah. A.G. Weiser sued the Trump administration 65 times. He's beating Trump in court again and again. Things like protecting Obamacare against Trump's illegal tariffs. And he even won against Ticketmaster. So he actually gets results. Exactly. As governor, Phil will fight for Colorado. Paid for by Phil Weiser for Colorado Registered Agent Anna Noskezi. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile, with a message for everyone paying big wireless way too much.

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1:49And stock up on bug sprays and sun care must-haves. Make your summer sizzle at Whole Foods Market. Seriously, why aren't Democrats in Washington doing more to stop Trump? I know. Have you heard about Phil Weiser in Colorado, though? No. Is he different? Yeah. A.G. Weiser sued the Trump administration 65 times. He's beating Trump in court again and again. Things like protecting Obamacare against Trump's illegal tariffs. And he even won against Ticketmaster. So he actually gets results. Exactly. As governor, Phil will fight for Colorado. Paid for by Phil Weiser for Colorado Registered Agent Nianna Nuskese.

2:26Michael Popok:Special counsel Jack Smith is back. And for all the right reasons, the House Oversight Committee thought they were going to bring him into a closed room and not let the American people hear from him and hear about the crimes that he prosecuted against Donald Trump. But it backfired on them today because he gave an opening statement. And we know what that opening statement is from reporting. You're on Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF. Let's get to the bottom of the Jack Smith matter and wait till you hear what he's told the American people in this new reporting. I'm Michael Popok, glad you're here.

3:04Michael Popok:Take a minute, come over to Legal AF YouTube channel, hit the subscribe button. We're gonna crack one million subscribers because of you. Here's what the Jack Smith, among many things, gave as his opening speech, and it went downhill for Donald Trump from here. He said,

3:51Michael Popok:and gatherings took place. Let me unpack that for right now. We don't have the video yet because it was behind closed doors because the MAGA Republicans don't want the American people to hear directly from Jack Smith, although we've heard directly from Jack Smith. Our investigation developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt. That's even higher than the standard necessary to bring a criminal prosecution. In order to get an indictment, you have to believe that there is probable cause to believe that you can sustain a conviction through appeal, not prove beyond a reasonable doubt. That's the standard of trial.

4:25Michael Popok:So he's saying, I have more evidence than I even needed in order to bring this particular case. He also went on to say in his statement, exploiting that violence on Jan 6th, President Trump and his associates tried to call members of Congress in furtherance of their criminal scheme, urging them to further delay certification of the 2020 election. This is the Arctic haze, the investigation into phone calls and Jack Smith's group not obtaining a wiretap subpoena, but being able to get the records, the telephone billing records to show who is calling who and when of members of Congress. Jack Smith went on, he said, I didn't choose those members that were called, President Trump did.

5:13Michael Popok:Now, we've heard from Jack Smith before. In fact, I'm going to bring you back in the Wayback Machine, I feel like Mr. Peabody, in the Wayback Machine to when Jack Smith announced the indictment. Here's a clip of Jack Smith, which just so happens to be, get this, on the Department of Justice website, even as we speak. I'm sure after they see this hot take, it's coming down. But here's the video for you, a little bit of a blast from the past, Jack Smith on the indictment being announced. Play the clip. Today, an indictment was unsealed, charging Donald J. Trump with conspiring to defraud the United States, conspiring to disenfranchise voters, and conspiring and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding.

5:59The indictment was issued by a grand jury of citizens here in the District of Columbia, and it sets forth the crimes charged in detail. I encourage everyone to read it in full. The attack on our nation's capital on January 6th, 2021, was an unprecedented assault on the seat of American democracy. As described in the indictment, it was fueled by lies. Lies by the defendant targeted at obstructing a bedrock function of the U.S. government, the nation's process of collecting, counting, and certifying the results of the presidential election. The men and women of law enforcement who defended the U.S.

6:46Capitol on January 6th are heroes. They are patriots and they are the very best of us. They did not just defend a building or the people sheltering in it. They put their lives on the line to defend who we are as a country and as a people. They defended the very institutions and principles that define the United States. Since the attack on our Capitol, the Department of Justice has remained committed to ensuring accountability for those criminally responsible for what happened that day. This case is brought consistent with that commitment. And our investigation of other individuals continues.

7:27Michael Popok:We've also heard from Jack Smith a couple of months ago when he knew he was going to be the subject of being brought in, being subpoenaed by Congress to hear his testimony. So he started to get his testimony out and he gave testimony to Andrew Weissman in a, I think it was actually overseas, about his investigation and the Department of Justice. Here's a clip to remind you of what Jack Smith said then. The idea that politics would play a role in big cases like this, it's absolutely ludicrous and it's totally contrary to my experience as a prosecutor.

8:09These are team players who don't want anything but to do good in the world. They're not interested in politics. And I get very concerned when I see how easy it is to demonize these people for political ends.

8:35I worked in the department for years, Republican. Democrat, Republican. I worked in the, I was the acting U.S. attorney in the first Trump administration in Tennessee. Nothing like what we see now has ever gone on. If there's rules in the department about how to bring a case, follow those rules. You can't say, I want this outcome. Let me throw the rules out. The problem is not prosecuting high officials who did something wrong when you do it according to the processes of law in your country. It's the retaliation. That's the problem.

9:05Michael Popok:Now, Jamie Raskin, who I've had the pleasure of meeting and introducing at a at a fundraiser recently, the ranking member of the Democratic Party on the House Judiciary Committee. He had this to say about the decision by his colleagues on the right, the MAGA colleagues, not to allow Jack Smith to be heard out loud in front of the American people like the Jan Six Committee. Let's play Jamie Raskin's clip. I just want to say that Chairman Jordan made an excellent decision in not allowing Jack Smith to testify publicly, because had he done so, it would have been absolutely devastating to the president and all the president's men involved in the insurrectionary activities of January the 6th.

9:47So, you know, I can't get into any further particulars, but I'll just say that Jack Smith has just spent several hours schooling the Judiciary Committee on the professional responsibilities of a prosecutor and the ethical duties of a prosecutor. And he's a sensational and honorable public servant. And we are lucky to have him in the bar in the United States of America. Could you describe at least what his message as a message was generally to the community? Again, you know, he was he's being answered. He's been asked and he's answering questions. So he didn't come with any particular message. But I'll just say that he's answered every single question to the satisfaction of any reasonable minded person in that room.

10:38any conclusion that you reached at the end of his investigation that he disclosed with the committee on the deposition? Well, his report speaks for itself in terms of January the 6th and the indictments that were handed down. And the other report should be public. I mean, that's just absolutely aberrational that it's not public. Just like his testimony should be public. Every other special counsel has been able to come here and testify. Robert Mueller's been able to testify. Robert Herr's been able to testify. All the special counsels and independent counsels have come in. And his second report on the retention of classified documents and what crimes may have been committed should also be released.

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13:25Michael Popok:activities, beliefs, or candidacy in the 2024 presidential election. We took actions, meaning his team, took actions based on what the facts and the law required. The very lesson I learned early in my career as a prosecutor. He said he would have made the same decision if Trump had been a Democrat or Republican. A nod to the GOP members of the committee who believe Smith was pursuing a partisan agenda and the rest. We're still waiting for Aileen Cannon or the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals to release part two, volume two of the Jack Smith report about Mar-a-Lago. We've already had part one. If you read part one and you read it back to back with the Jan 6 committee's report, I don't even know why.

14:09Michael Popok:I mean, I'm happy that they're asking Jack Smith to testify. Donald Trump wants Jack Smith prosecuted. They want him investigated. For what? For doing his job in a nonpartisan way? If a Democrat did half the things that Donald Trump did, he or she would be prosecuted and investigated, and we'd want it to be that way. So what's going to happen now is that there's going to be two competing media campaigns. Jim Jordan and the Comer on the House MAGA committees are going to try to spoon feed information. They'll try to release the transcript. They'll bury it. Nobody, hoping nobody will read it. They won't release the video of it.

14:55Michael Popok:They wouldn't allow it to be televised because they got everything to hide, as Jamie Raskin pointed out. That's one media campaign. And then you got Jack Smith, who's in the very capable hands of lawyers like Abby Lowell and a whole team around him. And they're going to get the word out. you're going to see, I think, more public statements, more speeches, more interviews. Maybe we'll get them on Legal AF. Attention, Jack Smith. I'll put up a bat signal. Come to Legal AF for an interview. Our audience and the Midas Dutch audience will be really, really receptive and pleased. I think he's going to do a lot more than that.

15:32Michael Popok:We're going to see these competing media. But the American people have made up their mind. They know that Donald Trump was a convicted felon. They know that he is doing underhanded criminal things even as we speak and trying to hide it from the American people. So they thought this was going to be some sort of framework that Donald Trump could start using along with these interviews that his administration is giving, like to Vanity Fair of all things, and Susie Wiles, and he's going on interview after interview, and he's doing a big speech tonight about his economic accomplishments and maybe they were going to war with Venezuela.

16:11Michael Popok:If he thought they were going to add into that, that Jack Smith's a bad guy and did bad things and it was all a witch hunt, it backfired because Jack Smith's not a bad guy because he's a competent and talented civil servant that's doing his job without fear of retribution, without fear or favor. following the facts wherever they led, proudly representing the Department of Justice. Remember when the Department of Justice was proud? When it had values and a reputation until it was corrupted by Donald Trump and Pam Bondi? I mean, look at the sharp contrast. Jack Smith, choir boy, Boy Scout, committed to the rule of law, committed to his professional duties as an officer of the court, versus what the, look what the Department of Justice has become under its chief legal officer, Donald Trump.

17:15Michael Popok:Corrupted, partisan, political, can't trust a word that comes out of its mouth. And we're gonna continue to follow it all right here. You're on Midas Touch, hit that subscribe button. This is the way we stay together and grow these channels together. and help me cross that 1 million free subscriber barrier over on Legal AF YouTube. I think we're gonna do it before Christmas, but only with your help. So until my next report, I'm Michael Popak. Can't get your fill of Legal AF? Me neither. That's why we formed the Legal AF Substack. Every time we mention something in a hot take, whether it's a court filing or a oral argument, come over to the Substack.

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18:19Seriously, why aren't Democrats in Washington doing more to stop Trump? I know. Have you heard about Phil Weiser in Colorado, though? No. Is he different? Yeah. A.G. Weiser sued the Trump administration 65 times. He's beating Trump in court again and again. Things like protecting Obamacare against Trump's illegal tariffs. And he even won against Ticketmaster. So he actually gets results. Exactly. As Governor, Phil will fight for Colorado. Paid for by Phil Weiser for Colorado Registered Agent N. N. N. N. N.

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From the publisher

Former Special Counsel Jack Smith is back with new “closed door” testimony before the House, and ready to remind the American people that Trump committed crimes and that the Special Counsel was prepared to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt to juries. Michael Popok takes a close look at Smith’s new public comments, including that “President Trump engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 …election.”

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