In short
The episode argues that Donald Trump is retaliating against the DOJ and prosecutors who indicted him, focusing on Jack Smith. It claims Smith is being targeted because he led the Mar-a-Lago espionage/obstruction case and the election-interference case in D.C. The host links this to broader “weaponization” and cites other prosecutions as examples of political attacks: Fani Willis in Georgia, Letitia James/Alvin Bragg in New York, and James Comey’s Russia-related history. It also alleges the DOJ is being “captured” and that Trump’s allies (Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, Todd Blanche) are sidelined by a “shadow attorney general” Ed Martin. Notable claims include Hatch Act scrutiny and that the Comey indictment will be challenged for procedural errors.
Guests
none clearly identified in the transcript; it features hosts Ryan Reynolds (ad), Michael Popak (host/guest voice), and Ben Mycelis (network promo).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Attacks on Jack Smith
1:35 to 2:36
Discussion on Trump's criticisms of Jack Smith and the DOJ.
“Let's put two and two together, shall we?”
Overview of Jack Smith's Role
2:36 to 3:57
A breakdown of Jack Smith's prosecutorial actions against Trump.
“He's the one that issued reports and indictments of Donald Trump about his interference with our election, his attempts to overthrow our democracy, his role in the insurrection.”
Trump's Weaponization of the DOJ
3:57 to 5:28
Exploring how Trump seeks to influence the DOJ and its implications.
“First, we heard, I don't know, a couple of months ago that they were looking at Jack Smith for a possible violation of the Hatch Act, which made me laugh out loud.”
Clip: Trump's Rhetoric
5:28 to 8:02
Analysis of a clip featuring Trump discussing Jack Smith and politics.
“I'm going to show you a clip from right now, standing there and staring at their shoes as Donald Trump, the chief legal officer of the United States, says he wants Jack Smith's head on a pike.”
Jack Smith's Perspective
8:02 to 10:06
Jack Smith's comments on the integrity of the DOJ and its processes.
“He was the guy that couldn't get confirmed as the U.S.”
Legal Implications of Trump's Actions
10:06 to 14:00
Discussion of the potential legal consequences facing Trump and his team.
“Department of Justice, the idea that politics would play a role in big cases like this, it's absolutely ludicrous.”
The Impact of Jack Smith's Actions
14:00 to 14:28
Discussion on the implications of Jack Smith's legal actions against Trump.
“I almost want him to have his day in court.”
Community Engagement and Updates
14:28 to 14:55
Encouragement for audience engagement and updates on upcoming content.
“seeing Donald Trump either doing social media posts or using stern warnings to that triumvirate in his office and bad things follow.”
Transcript
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1:37Michael Popok:Let's put two and two together, shall we? Donald Trump attacks Jack Smith from the Oval Office, having next to him his collective meat puppets of Attorney General Pam Bondi. Is that really her title? FBI Director Kash Patel and Todd Blanche all sitting there shuffling their feet and blinking as Donald Trump started to rage again against the former special counsel that indicted him twice, Jack Smith, and others in the Department of Justice that he can't seem to catch their name, recall their name. Who's that woman he used to in the number? You mean Lisa Monaco, the number two? and now we know why Jack Smith decided now with exquisite timing was the time for him to reappear it's like Beetlejuice you say Jack Smith's name three times he shows up for an interview and we got the receipts right here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF on Michael Popak let's get to it Jack Smith if you're having trouble grasping or remembering the name he was the prosecutor that brought the espionage and obstruction of justice case at Mar-a-Lago He's the prosecutor and his team that brought the election interference case before Judge Chutkin in the District of Columbia.
2:51Michael Popok:He's the one that issued reports and indictments of Donald Trump about his interference with our election, his attempts to overthrow our democracy, his role in the insurrection. It ran parallel to the Jan 6th committee. And Donald Trump, if he ever returned to power, we knew that the prosecutors and the judges who had protected democracy and defended the rule of law would be under attack. We've already seen it. Fonny Willis in Georgia. We've seen Letitia James, the New York attorney general that worked hand in glove with Alvin Bragg to obtain a 34 count felony conviction against Donald Trump. And she alone got a huge judgment against Donald Trump and a finding of fraud.
3:34Michael Popok:She's already been indicted for perjury. But that doesn't seem to be enough. The James Comey, former FBI director, going back and playing old tapes about crossfire hurricane and whether Donald Trump colluded with the Russians or not, or the Russians wanted Donald Trump to be elected president. P.S. They wanted him to be elected president. And then you've got finally Jack Smith. First, we heard, I don't know, a couple of months ago that they were looking at Jack Smith for a possible violation of the Hatch Act, which made me laugh out loud. The Hatch Act is a civil statute that says that if you're doing your day job working for the government in politics, you have to be agnostic politically.
4:16Michael Popok:You can't do political campaigning or try to involve or interfere with an election. Oh, those prosecutions interfered with the election. No, your criminal conduct interfered with the election. And Jack Smith was just doing his job. So they were looking, we've heard for a while that they were looking at Jack Smith for possible Hatch Act violations. The problem with that is the office that looks at those things, the Office of Special Counsel, it's the same name but a different job altogether. They're the federal watchdogs. They've been sort of leaderless since they fired the last true special counsel, Hampton Dellinger, and they've tried to appoint somebody who's a year out of law school who's got a sexual harassment scandal named Paul Ingrassia.
4:58Michael Popok:It looks like he's not going to make it. So there's no one really running the Office of Special Counsel at the present time. I think the trade representative is turning the lights on and off during the day to show that somebody's home. That's about it. So now we've moved from that. Now that Donald Trump's got the taste for going after, in a vindictive way, his adversaries, his political enemies, the ones that he's proclaimed to be his political enemies, and he's got the mechanism to do it. And it has nothing to do with these three people. I'm going to show you a clip from right now, standing there and staring at their shoes as Donald Trump, the chief legal officer of the United States, says he wants Jack Smith's head on a pike.
5:39Michael Popok:Let's play the clip. I have to understand the full extent to which the Biden-Harris Justice Department weaponized federal law enforcement. What do you think the committee will find out? I think it was the worst weaponization of a political opponent in the history of the world, let alone this country. And I hope that everybody's, you know, they're involved in it. I'm not. I'm the one that had to suffer through it and ultimately win. But what they did was criminal. Deranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal. And I noticed his his interviewer was I think that was Weissman. And I hope they're going to look into Weissman, too.
6:17Weissman's a bad guy. And he had somebody in Lisa, who was his puppet, worked in the office really as the top person. And I think that she should be looked at very strongly. There was tremendous criminal activity having to do. If we don't have fair elections in this country, we're not going to have a country. And I've said it from the beginning, fair elections and borders. And we need also fair press, because if you don't have fair press, it's very tough. and we've got the strongest border of anybody nobody has a border we have a border where the numbers just came out again you saw zero people came in illegally now we do take people into our country legally but zero people but you know you're talking about a different subject you're talking about political crime they have committed massive political crime i hope they're looking at shifty shift i hope they're looking at all these people and i'm allowed to find out i'm allowed to You know, I'm in theory the chief law enforcement officer, but I have a very good, talented group.
7:20This is about something else. But I hope they're looking at political crime because there's never been so much political crime against a political opponent as what I had to go through.
7:30Michael Popok:Those three have nothing to do with it. Donald Trump serving as his own head legal officer of America. Pam Bondi's just a meat puppet. So are the other two. And they don't even, by the way, just as a side note, those three don't even get along. Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche's local recent reporting are at war with Kash Patel. They don't trust him. They don't like him. They think he's an idiot. And then Donald Trump set up a war to topple his own Department of Justice, because the person who's not in the room is the person who's really the shadow attorney general. His name is Ed Martin. He was the guy that couldn't get confirmed as the U.S.
8:08Michael Popok:attorney for D.C. They had to put Janine Pirro in because he's too radical, even for MAGA in the Senate. And so they gave him the job of pardon attorney and weaponization of the Department of Justice Working Committee. But he's really the shadow attorney general. And he's giving Lindsey Halligan direction in the Eastern District of Virginia about how to go and get her first indictments. And they're just cutting out Blanche and Bondi, who did not want did not want Letitia James or Comey indicted. That's the reporting. So isn't it ironic? He pulls them all together to try to show a unity, you know, that we have, we're together in this, we're holding hands.
8:48Michael Popok:And then he sat there and reamed them out and embarrassed them on his carpet in the White House. It's good they didn't show a shot of the carpet. We might have seen puddle stains or something, you know, puddling going on around the three standing there. And then he calls for Jack Smith. Now, Jack Smith, I'm sure, knew he's got his spider senses and or he's been contacted. He knows that there's probably an investigation that's been opened against him and he's going on television to talk about it. And here's a clip of Jack Smith we haven't heard from since he lost his job as special counsel and those investigations were closed.
9:26Michael Popok:Let's run that clip. These are people who are not self-promoters. They do not like to tell their own story. They cannot start a sentence with I. They start that with we. These are team players who don't want anything but to do good in the world. They're not interested in politics. And I get very concerned when I see how easy it is to demonize these people for political ends. When these are the very sort of people I think we should be celebrating. The people on my special counsel team were like that. The idea that politics played a role in who worked on that case or who got chosen is ludicrous.
10:04and Andrew, you know, and this is another thing that I think if you're not inside the U.S. Department of Justice, the idea that politics would play a role in big cases like this, it's absolutely ludicrous. And it's this latest prosecution of the former director of the FBI. You know, there's a process to secure an indictment. There's a process of predication, having some evidence before you do that. Here, and again, I only know what I see myself in the media, but the career prosecutors, the apolitical prosecutors who analyzed this said there wasn't a case. And so they brought somebody in who had never been a criminal prosecutor on day's notice to secure an indictment a day before the statute of limitations ended.
10:51That just reeks of lack of process. And I think a lot of Americans do not see this as a political issue. Process shouldn't be a political issue, right? Like if there's rules in the department about how to bring a case, follow those rules. You can't say, I want this outcome. Let me throw the rules out. That's why you, frankly, you see all these conflicts between the career apolitical prosecutors I worked with, because they're being asked to do things that they think are wrong. And because they're not political people, they're not going to do them. And I think that explains why you've seen the resignations.
11:24You've seen people leave the department. It's not because they're enemies of one administration or the next. They worked through decades for different administrations. It's just they've been doing things apolitically forever. And when they're told, no, you got to get this outcome no matter what, that is so contrary to how we were all raised as prosecutors. I think that's been the center of all the conflict.
11:46Michael Popok:So what does it mean? I mean, if they're going to pick a fight, first of all, let's just go one by one. The Comey indictment isn't worth the paper it's written on. They're already coming out swinging for a knockout punch of Lindsay Halligan. Their first motion is going to be that she's illegally appointed, and she's the only one that signed the indictment. They better go fix that indictment, because this indictment's going down for procedural errors, for logistical errors, for facial errors, and then for vindictive prosecution. Two big motions being filed on the 20th of October by James Comey's lawyers.
12:20Michael Popok:We already know that Letitia James is going to likely win her on the frame job for mortgage fraud. What's the mortgage fraud? She tried to save$18 ,000 over 30 years because she has some of her family members living in her house in Virginia. Who's defrauded? It's just no self-respecting career prosecutor would bring the case. No self-respecting career prosecutor brought the case. Now we're still waiting around at Donald Trump's return from his, you know, they used to call it the Middle East peace plan. And I don't see it, not with Hamas executing people in the public square since the peace deal.
12:58Michael Popok:This is what happens when you send three real estate brokers in and they see it as a land deal, a real estate deal, and they don't care about government, governance, rebuilding, protection, security. You know, those those little stubborn little stubborn little facts that need to be resolved. And what do you get? you get firing squads in the public square by Hamas. So we waited for him to come home thinking, all right, maybe I'll go after John Bolton now, his former national security advisor, because we've heard about the grand jury and the indictment. That one's coming out of Maryland. Haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
13:37Michael Popok:If I were the Department of Justice, I would not be picking a fight with Jack Smith. But they've shown a complete corruption, complete capture by Donald Trump. There's no independent thought going on behind closed doors of the Department of Justice. I don't know if Todd Blanche has realized it, but he created a monster in a Frankenstein in Donald Trump. And Donald Trump is just raping and pillaging and setting fire to the village. And he can't control him any longer. Neither can Pam Bondi. So take on Jack Smith. I almost want him to have his day in court. I just don't want him to be subjected to the emotional toll and the cost.
14:19Michael Popok:I want him to do more productive things for America than have to defend himself against Donald Trump. We'll follow it all right here, including regular updates if he gets indicted. Usually you start seeing Donald Trump either doing social media posts or using stern warnings to that triumvirate in his office and bad things follow. So we'll follow it right here on Midas Touch. And on Legal AF YouTube, take a moment, hit the free subscribe button. Come right back here to Midas Touch, do the exact same thing. Come over to Legal AF Substack and help us continue to build that community with a cheap paid membership of$7 a month, I promise you.
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From the publisher
What was supposed to be a sign of unity by a fractious DOJ and FBI leadership called together by Trump in the Oval Office turned into a dressing down of Bondi, Blanche, and Patel by Trump, who demanded that his former Special Counsel, Jack Smith, be indicted along with others in the former DOJ leadership. Michael Popok explains how Jack Smith’s first interview since being fired was well timed to coincide with Trump’s renewed campaign to have him indicted. In other words, “see you in Court.”
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