Judge Shocks Trump and Reopens $1.8B Fraud Case

30 May 2026 · 17 min · 7 chapters

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In short

A federal judge in Miami, Judge Williams, has reopened the Trump v. IRS case tied to a purported settlement used to justify the “weaponization/anti-weaponization fund,” after claims the lawsuit was collusive and involved fraud on the court.

Key claims

35 former federal judges (including Judge Michael Luttig and Judge Ursula Ungaro) argued the settlement was a “smokescreen,” lacked a true adversary, and included a DOJ addendum that allegedly granted the Trump family a pass on 16 years of tax/audit liability. Judge Williams ordered DOJ/IRS/Trump-side plaintiffs to brief jurisdiction and whether the case should be reopened and sanctions considered.

Notable examples

the three-paragraph addendum; DOJ/IRS internal memo suggesting challenges like statute of limitations and lack of adversary party.

Guests

none named in the transcript; it references lawyer Sky Perryman (Democracy Forward) and an unnamed lawyer in an Eastern District of Virginia case.

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Judge Reopens Trump's Fraud Case

0:01 to 0:24

A federal judge reopens the case against Trump, highlighting issues of deception.

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Judge Reopens Trump's Fraud Case

1:31 to 3:16

A federal judge reopens the case against Trump, highlighting issues of deception.

“We got some breaking news and it's a bad day for Donald Trump as a federal judge in Miami.”

Response from Former Judges

3:16 to 4:50

35 former judges argue Trump's case was fraudulent and should be reopened.

“Something we've been saying on Legal AF and Midas Touch since it happened.”

Details of the Court's Concerns

4:50 to 8:13

The judge expresses concerns about the lack of an adversarial party in the case.

“which are serving as amici or friends of the court to tell the court, you've been had.”

Implications of Judge's Orders

8:13 to 10:09

The judge outlines the requirements for the Trump administration in response to the case.

“She looked around the room and said, I got too many people on one side of the table and not enough on the other.”

Wrapping Up the Legal Discussion

11:16 to 14:00

Michael Popak discusses the legal ramifications and encourages audience engagement.

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Discussion on Legal Corruption and the Importance of Awareness

14:00 to 14:21

Explore the themes of legal corruption and the importance of staying informed.

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1:31Michael Popok:We got some breaking news and it's a bad day for Donald Trump as a federal judge in Miami. Judge Williams has elected to reopen the Trump versus the Internal Revenue Service case that Donald Trump used as a facade, a charade, in order to enter into a collusive settlement to set up the weaponization or anti-weaponization fund. This is in response to just in the last 48 hours, 35 former federal judges led by Judge Michael Luttig and another judge from the Southern District of Florida who's now retired, Judge Ursula Ungaro, who implored Judge Williams and told her to her face in the filing that she had been had.

2:13Michael Popok:she had been deceived, that there had been collusive conduct, that the settlement was based on the deception of the court and that she should use her inherent authority to reopen the case and to evaluate whether sanctions should be issued and whether she should be making a declaration that the underlying lawsuit is phony and the result of complicity and deceit. And if that happens, what will happen next is then you've got all the lawsuits that are going on right now against the fund, able to argue that a federal judge found that the underlying lawsuit was invalid. Therefore, the settlement was invalid.

2:48Michael Popok:Therefore, the Department of Justice's attorney general, Todd Blanche, did not have the power to enter into the lawsuit or dip into the judgment fund to set up another slush fund to pay off Donald Trump's cronies. It's a cascading domino effect, but it starts in the courtroom of Judge Williams, who's now taking this thing seriously as we wanted her to with the filing by the 35 judges. I'll break it all down for you right here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF. Just two days ago, 35 judges led by Judge Ludig, including Judge Ngaro, former judges in the Southern District of Florida who know Judge Williams well, who served with Judge Williams, implored her to recognize that she had been had.

3:32Michael Popok:Something we've been saying on Legal AF and Midas Touch since it happened. Since Donald Trump decided that he was just going to use the federal court as an imprimatur or sheen in order to cover up for a collusive suit that doesn't really exist to enter into a settlement to empower the Department of Justice to compromise a claim based on a lawsuit that's invalid. And the other thing that she's concerned about now that she's been briefed on it by the federal judges is why did Donald Trump get a complete exoneration of his tax and audit liability exposure for the last 16 years, along with his family, pardon me, as part of the settlement?

4:17Michael Popok:Why? How? So 35 judges said, judge, we, even though we're strangers to the case, we can raise the issue of fraud on the court and deception. Because who else can do it? Under Rule 60 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, any party can do it. Anybody can do it. A stranger to the case can do it. Because if Trump controlled his own lawyers, the IRS and the Department of Justice, and all the players in the lawsuit, who's going to raise the issue of fraud? Them? No. The 35 federal judges, which are serving as amici or friends of the court to tell the court, you've been had. and now she's pissed off and she's fired up.

4:58Michael Popok:I'll read to you from the order right now. We've got the receipts here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF. And then I'm going to play you a clip from one of the lawyers, Sky Perryman for Democracy Forward, that filed that case against the fund. And I asked her just in the last 24 hours during my interview with her, whether this case in front of Judge Williams with the 35 judges will help her in arguing that the fund is the product birthed from an illegal, unconstitutional set of facts. And you wait till you hear what she has to say. But let's get to the order which is posted on Legal AF Substack.

5:37Michael Popok:We'll put up on the screen as I read it as well. Let's start on page two. Or actually, we can say on page three. Here, the non-party movements, that's the 35 judges, advance grievous allegations that plaintiffs, that's the Trump side, voluntarily dismissed this litigation solely to avoid judicial scrutiny of a lawsuit that, quote, was collusive from the start and was only filed to provide the imprimatur of legality for an unlawful settlement. In other words, a smokescreen to cover up for the illegality of the settlement. They point to the fact that the settlement in question included a three-paragraph addendum.

6:18Michael Popok:Who can forget Todd Blanche's attempts on the 19th of May after the settlement had already been announced to try to amend it by himself with nobody else involved, no other party involved, to say, oh, yeah, yeah, we're going to expand the release to give the Trump family a pass on audit and tax liability for the last 16 years. Like, what? How did that happen? And so the judge comments on it in paragraph two or footnote two on page three. She said this addendum, as the non-party movements point out, may conflict with internal Department of Justice policies that require the department to only enter into compromises that are limited to the immediate subject matter.

7:03Michael Popok:In other words, has to be narrow. You can't say, let's throw everything in. Hey, let's give Donald Trump a pass on tax liability. That's not necessary. So that's the only thing the Department of Justice can do. She also noted in footnote three about the public reporting, including what we did on Midas Touch and Legal AF, that the Internal Revenue Service lawyers itself created a memo that said they should challenge, the Department of Justice should challenge Donald Trump's lawsuit on various grounds, including statute of limitations, that the statute of limitations had run. It was filed too late based on some facts and that there was no adversary party, that a president can't sue his own agencies, his own executive branch.

7:47Michael Popok:And that was at the heart of what the judge was trying to get to the bottom of when Trump came along and quickly settled the case. See, he wanted the veneer, the imprimatur of an active lawsuit, right? So it can be settled. I said you need a settlement in order for there to be or a lawsuit in order for there to be consideration for a settlement. No lawsuit, invalid, illegal, no proper settlement. And the whole fun falls apart. That's the pin. That's the string or the thread of the sweater. You pull it and the whole thing fails. That was in front of Judge Williams. She looked around the room and said, I got too many people on one side of the table and not enough on the other.

8:25Michael Popok:There's no adversary party here. I'm worried there's no adversary party. So I want all of the lawyers for the Department of Justice, IRS, and Trump to write briefs to tell me, separate briefs, to tell me how there's a proper adversary proceeding here. How can Trump sue his own agencies? And how do I have jurisdiction over that? And then she said, well, I don't really believe you guys completely. This is my own kibitzing commentary. So she appointed three friends of the court, former Judge Gleason, a former Solicitor General, and a top trial lawyer and said, you write a brief to guide me independently as well.

9:01Michael Popok:Well, that brief came in and said to the judge effectively, you don't really have jurisdiction. Right on top of that, before their deadline to file, Trump files a notice of dismissal and says to the judge to her face in the filing, oh, don't worry, don't worry, you have no jurisdiction over this. We're settling, we're not filing the settlement papers with you. Thank you for letting us use you in your courtroom. We're out of here. And the judge closed the case. And that led to commentators like me immediately saying, no, no, use your inherent authority. Keep the case open. Do a fact finding. Do an order to show cause.

9:40Michael Popok:Get all these people in the room at the same time and find out if you've been had, because you've been used. And the federal court system should not be used like a cheap blanket. OK, so that sat for a few days and then came to the rescue, the cavalry, the 35 federal, former federal judges. And they said to her, you've been had, you've been deceived. Reopen the case. Listen to our argument. Use your powers and get to the bottom of what happened. Hey, everybody. Ben Micellis here from the Midas Touch Network. I wanted to let you know about my podcast partner, Michael Popak's new law firm. It's called the Popak Firm.

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11:23Michael Popok:Here's how the judge summarizes that. On page one, she said the non-party movements explain that although there is no settlement of record in this matter, public documents and announcements indicate that the dismissal was premised on a purported settlement between the parties. In turn, they submit that the settlement is a product of collusion and that settlement is a fraud on the court. So here's what she wants the Trump administration to do by a week from next Friday. Listen to these things they have to answer and you tell me whether there's a rise in blood pressure and more smattering of ketchup going on at the White House overnight, ordered in a judge that by June 12th, the plaintiffs, that's the Trump side, shall file a response to the motion.

12:13Michael Popok:And it's really just Donald Trump. It's not the IRS, not the Department of Justice, it's plaintiffs detailing their position, including they have to answer to the charges of collusion and whether the parties were truly adverse. This was the fundamental issue she wanted answered before. Do I have jurisdiction? Are you a phony lawsuit? That's one. Two, she wants them to answer the assertion in the 35 judges brief that the dismissal in this case was premised on deception by the parties, deception of the court. Three, answer the question of whether the case should be reopened because the court was a victim of fraud.

12:54Michael Popok:And if the non-movements want to file the brief, they can do theirs on June 19th. Wow. Now, let me tell you what this means, or better yet, let me tell you what one of the lawyers who's handling a case that was filed in the Eastern District of Virginia against the weaponization fund. This is what she had to say when I asked her about Judge Williams' case. Play the clip. Of course, back in the Florida suit where we filed, and you and I talked about this amicus brief that we filed on behalf of former government officials, both Republican and Democratic, a bipartisan group that outlined all the things the court could do, including appointing specific neutral amici to come in, which the court was doing and was handling.

13:35Those briefs, as you'll recall, said, we don't think you have jurisdiction here. And immediately before the court could even act, the president seeks to dismiss his claim because he knew he was going to lose there. So yesterday, I think you're going to talk about this later today, or earlier this week, there was a filing on behalf of 35 judges back in that Florida case saying, like, take a look at this. This wasn't really valid. So this is the kind of thing that should be mired in litigation. It is mired in litigation, but it's also the kind of thing that every single American, you don't have to be a lawyer.

14:04You don't have to be a politician. This is just this should be off limits. I mean, this is rank corruption.

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From the publisher

🚨 In breaking news, Federal Judge Williams, in response to the urging of 35 former federal judges, has REOPENED the Trump v. IRS case, and has ordered that Trump and his lawyers answer whether they “deceived” the Court, committed “fraud on the court” and used the lawsuit as a phony smokescreen to settle the case and set up the “Anti weaponization” slush fund, and whether there was a legitimate case at all. Popok explains along with lawyers who have sued to block the fund, that this is a terrible result for Trump and may move one step closer to a federal judge declaring that the original suit upon which the “settlement” is based in phony.

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