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24:18Ben Meiselas:Why would you want to turn the White House into a military target, though? Like just at a common sense level, why would you want we have military bases? Why would you want even at the most logic level? So in an all out war, you want the White House to be saying as a legitimate military target. under the rules of war by turning it into a drone port i mean and and this ai slop on top of it what the hell is this even on top of it i mean why why are there military trucks and why do these drones look gigantic and why is there an entire army i mean like how dystopian and sick is this If you wrote about this scene in some sci-fi book with these drone port posts, and you describe that scene in a sci-fi dystopian alternative history type book, which I used to enjoy growing up, but I can't enjoy them now.

25:16Ben Meiselas:I don't enjoy those shows anymore. I don't enjoy those books anymore because it's real life and we're in the trenches fighting it. So I just can't watch that stuff anymore personally. But you'd be like, come on, what are you talking about here? I'll leave you with this, though, because here is what Donald Trump's been posting. I could show you 40 of these, but I'll just show you one. Two judges, one appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, the other by Sleepy Joe Biden, said in a ruling on the desperately needed secure ballroom military complex, including a major drone port on the roof, that, quote, each president is a temporary tenant of the White House.

25:56Ben Meiselas:Then Trump says we are not tenants who pay rent and do all other things that a tenant must do. We are presidents elected by the people of the United States of America and have many rights, including the right to fix, renovate, secure, protect, and beautify the white house grounds, which has been built and rebuilt, renovated and re renovated, repaired, and simply made better many times since 1792. But as the court order explains, we are aware of no instance in American history in which a president unilaterally and using privately collected funds demolished a substantial portion of the White House that Congress authorized to be built and American taxpayers paid for until now.

26:42Ben Meiselas:that's the truth and when you look at the order and you look at trump's frantic chaotic crazy social media posts you have to ask yourself which country do you want to live in and to me this is never oh well democrats republicans independent no no it's it's really much deeper and more profound of bizarre kim jong-un authoritarian frankly kim jong-un looks very rational very well reasoned compared to Donald Trump's behavior. I think his craziness is truly unprecedented, even amongst the authoritarian class. Even as you think through some of the people who we may have conceived as the craziest authoritarians, the most unhinged, Trump is in an authoritarian crazy pantheon to himself, right?

27:35Ben Meiselas:Do we want that? Do we want that? or do we want logic, rules, evidence, the truth, reality? And the reality is that the president is a public servant. You serve us. We don't serve you. You work for us. We don't work for you. We're not your employees. We're not your cogs. We're not your data center robots. We the people. We the people. and you work for us and you're supposed to make our lives better, not inject deranged chaos, unpredictability, pain and suffering every day. And I believe, call me naive, but part of what we're building here at the Midas Touch Network is to do this, that one of the ways out of this hell is through a strengthening of our legal organizations, our legal systems, working hand in hand with what I can control here, building the independent media ecosystem the way we have to get out the truth, to bring in the top experts.

28:48Ben Meiselas:All right, I'm going to bring Michael Popak in. I'm sure you're saying, Ben, enough of you. Let's bring in Michael Popak. Okay, deal. A reminder, if you or someone you know has been injured in a car accident, trucking accident, if you've been injured by the negligence of somebody else, reach out to Popak's firm. We'll put the link in the description below. Subscribe to Michael Popak's YouTube channel, Legal AF, and his sub stack, Legal AF. Let's keep that growing. All right. After this break, I'm going to bring in Michael Popak. Popak's on vacation, but he wants to be here. He wants to make sure he updates you with the legal news.

29:23Ben Meiselas:So let's bring in Michael Popak. Let's take a quick break first.

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31:29Michael Popok:Just head to lolablankets.com and use code LEGALAF to get 40 % off your order. Now look, after you purchase, they'll ask where you heard about them. Please support our show and let them know we sent you. Wrap yourself in luxury with Lola Blankets. Thanks, Ben, and welcome back to Legal AF. It was worth the fight. Some people are questioning whether the bruising battle to try to block Todd Blanche from being attorney general, because he's unfit, because he's immoral, because he's unethical and illegal, and he promotes and enables the worst instincts of a lawless president. Some people question whether it was worth the fight?

32:13Michael Popok:Was it worth having a 50 to 49 squeak through for Todd Blanche? And I would argue that he's been left damaged goods as a result, a result of the promises he made that he cannot keep to senators. He's going to be subjected to oversight. He's going to have a unfavorable Congress, Senate and House that he's going to have to respond to after the election in just about three months. Did he lay the framework and the groundwork for his own impeachment and removal as attorney general? You know, I had the opportunity to interview within a couple of days apart, two members of the Democratic leadership in the Senate Judiciary Committee, Cory Booker, the senior senator from New Jersey, and Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut.

33:00Michael Popok:And both of them said it was worth the fight in their own way. Let me show you a clip I think is important of Senator Cory Booker as to why the fight, even if it was one that we ultimately lost, will pay dividends in the future. Let's play the clip. I would say please don't surrender to that idea because that will lead us into a pretty terrible place. I know from my own history as a black American that people fought hard as hell for every inch of ground we gained. and this idea that if we just acquiesce, if we just give in, maybe it won't be as bad as we imagine it to be. That to me is inviting disaster and accepting, resigning yourself to injustice.

33:52Michael Popok:We have to fight. I am telling you right now, when it comes to principled stands, we have to stand up or there'll be the slow erosion of the very principles that are worth fighting for. So I just hope your viewers understand this is one of those moments where even if we lose, the fact that we stood, history will look back and take strength from our resistance. And with Senator Blumenthal, it was a different angle. I asked him about impeachment. Yeah, Todd Blanche may have a pardon in his back pocket. I'm sure he does, which makes it ironic that his office is now considering whether to indict Dr.

34:34Michael Popok:Anthony Fauci, who frankly, his sure hand guided us through a very treacherous moment during COVID with an out of control, a rational president, you know, the guy that was saying we should drink Clorox, and got a pardon by Biden, along with everybody in his administration that make key decisions. Now it's landed in the lap of Todd Blanche. Does he really need, based on a nine to eight Senate Oversight Committee, Homeland Security and Government Affairs Oversight Committee, headed by Rand Paul, does he really need to be prosecuting Anthony Fauci after he just got done telling senators that he would not do the president's bidding and he would not go after the perceived targets of the president?

35:21Michael Popok:He is not stronger today, Todd Blanch, than he was yesterday or two days ago. And I don't think the first thing on his agenda should be going after an enemy and critic of Donald Trump. So we'll have to see what happens there. When I asked Senator Blumenthal, do you think this is the makings of his own impeachment? Did he hang himself in the way he conducted himself in testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee and in promises that he made in order to secure votes? And here's what Senator Blumenthal had to say.

35:50Ben Meiselas:I think that, you know, his failing to acknowledge that the January 6th rioters committed crimes, his support for pardons, his enabling Donald Trump's profiting from crypto. $1.4 billion is what Donald Trump made last year from crypto alone. $2 billion plus total. It is absolutely stomach turning. It's jaw dropping. the kind of corruption that Todd Blanch is enabling as we speak. So I think the kind of complicity in that kind of corruption is, for me, a very important reason that there could be impeachment. But remember that Donald Trump, under recent Supreme Court opinions, can't be held responsible criminally while he's in office for anything he does while he's in office.

36:53Ben Meiselas:But Todd Blanche could be.

36:55Michael Popok:So it's worth the fight. It's worth the struggle, right? The arc of history is long, but it bends towards justice. We just don't know at any given moment where we are along the arc, if you know what I mean. But we need to be bending it towards justice because history will look back and future, you know, very immediate future generations will not look kindly on us if we don't fight that good fight and we have. And now it's left to the federal courts. There are only safety valves, circuit breaker, firewall, whatever you want to call it, between now and the midterms and the installation of a new Congress, hopefully led by the Democrats, come next, a year January, right?

37:43Michael Popok:And one of the key cases, there's actually two in particular that I'm thinking of, but one of the key cases is before Judge Brinkema, senior judge, Eastern District of Virginia. She's the judge that blocked with a injunction the operation, formation and operation of the Jan 6th anti-weaponization$1.776 billion fund. Now, she didn't reach at that moment a month ago the issue of whether Todd Blanche's next-day gift, an obvious quid pro quo, to get the nomination from Donald Trump in giving his boss, his client, his friend, and his family, and 400 companies that Donald Trump controls through a trust and affiliates, effectively a free pass to tax evasion.

38:36Michael Popok:giving him immunity or a release for the last couple of decades of IRS investigations and audits, including some that are ongoing, worth$100 million to Donald Trump and his family running with interest. That issue of the next day massacre of our rule of law by Todd Blanch and Donald Trump and the illegality of it, the crime that was committed, a crime on the book since post-Watergate and Richard Nixon, that has not been front and center with a judge and wasn't considered at the moment by Judge Brinkema. Our friends at Democracy Forward, a public interest group and law firm that is prosecuting the case in front of Judge Brinkema on behalf of a series of plaintiffs as diverse as municipalities like New Haven, Connecticut, former federal prosecutors who were drummed out and have been attacked by the Department of Justice, protesters and members of the Internal Revenue Service and former members of the Internal Revenue Service, they have now filed their amended complaint to put squarely in front of Judge Brinkema, the first and only of its kind lawsuit right now to have a federal judge declare that May 19th unilateral declaration of a pardon by Todd Blanche to be illegal, invalid, and unconstitutional.

40:04Michael Popok:And that just got filed in her court as of right, meaning they didn't have to seek leave or a motion to be filed because the government had not responded to that particular motion. Now, the government is going to file another motion to dismiss, but in the meantime, Judge Brinkema, who sided with Democracy Forward a month ago, has this issue front and center. Even in Judge Williams' courtroom in Miami, and I'm going to talk a lot about Miami in the coming segment because of about three or four different cases there, even Judge Brinkema, or Judge Williams, sorry, did not, did not address the issue of the next day settlement.

40:43Michael Popok:She did in her own way. She's the one that declared in response to a motion by 35 former federal judges that the entire lawsuit was a illegal, illicit, collusive conduct among Todd Blanche, Donald Trump, the Internal Revenue Service, and the Treasury Department, and Donald Trump's private lawyers. And therefore, the Jan 6 Fund settlement agreement and the amendment to that settlement agreement, giving Donald Trump and his family a free pass to tax evasion was also illegal. It was like a silver bullet. Illegal and illicit. But there's still issues that are being resolved in her courtroom the way that she handled it.

41:29Michael Popok:Enter Judge Brinkema. Enter Democracy Forward. Now, I had in the last 24 hours Sky Perryman, who's the CEO and runs Democracy Forward, on to talk about the new filing. And here's a clip.

41:44Ben Meiselas:Kudos to our brave clients that have been, you know, in this case from the beginning, the Floyd case. We have amended the complaint and we've continued to add allegations about the slush fund because as we know, every time Donald Trump opens his mouth, he talks more about how the slush fund needs to exist. And so we are still challenging the slush fund. But we also added new brave plaintiffs, the National Employees Treasury Union or the National Treasury Employees Union, NTEU, which has employees as members who work at the IRS. And those employees are essentially alleging that what this agreement that Blanche and Trump and the Trump organization are engaged in to provide Donald Trump and his associates, his family, his organization, IRS immunity, conscripts them into the violation of law and is unlawful and is an unconstitutional emolument.

42:39Ben Meiselas:It's giving the president a gift that, you know, that it's an unconstitutional emolument. So those are the claims with respect to the IRS immunity provision that the amended complaint, if you if you I know your listeners always go to our actual court documents. You guys love to feature the actual court documents. There is tremendous, great history in there about why there are provisions of our tax code that prevent exactly what this agreement did, including, by the way, in a circumstance where in the Watergate era, in the Nixon era, he was seeking to weaponize the IRS against people and to use also the IRS to favor his friends.

43:17Ben Meiselas:And Congress took action there to add additional protections, which is one of the many legal bases for our case.

43:26Michael Popok:Exactly. Now, what's going to happen? The Department of Justice is going to file another motion to dismiss to argue that none of these people can be plaintiffs. They're going to argue that the case has no merit, which they've already done in Todd Blanche's own filing. Here's what Todd Blanche said on August 2nd as he was trying to get the votes from Senators Cornyn of Texas and Tillis of North Carolina to get out of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He said, for the avoidance of doubt, nothing in this order is intended to contradict or otherwise be contrary to the prior representations by the Department of Justice that the fund is not operative.

44:07Michael Popok:That doesn't answer the question. They're still going to pay hundreds of millions of dollars to Jan 6th defendants who beat up Capitol Police, and they're going to get paid to do it with your taxpayer dollars through Todd Blanche and the Department of Justice through the back door. Because there's budget allocations in the DOJ budget to pay these things even without the fund. The fund would have been easier, but they can do it in the back. So here's what they said about the Judge Brinkema case. Nevertheless, several frivolous lawsuits have been filed challenging the fund. I don't think Judge Brinkema thinks it's frivolous.

44:44Michael Popok:In fact, she said when the lawyer appeared for the Department of Justice in her courtroom alone, she said, you're a very brave man. And it went downhill from there in the hearing. She ended up blocking the fund and the fund creation. And now, of course, turning to the next day settlement and unilateral agreement by Todd Blanche to give his boss a pardon. Just hours after he granted that, he was nominated by Donald Trump after being passed over three prior times. Three prior times, Todd Blanche was passed over for attorney general until he finally hit the magic button. give my boss the immunity that even the United States Supreme Court would not have provided.

45:31Michael Popok:We're going to follow that case very, very closely. If you want to read the lawsuit, it's up in Legal AF Substack for paid members. So we got that going on. Now let me pick up with a series of cases that all have a common theme filed by Donald Trump in his alleged personal capacity, even though he keeps referring to himself as the president and all of the filings in the Southern District of Florida, in a Miami courthouse, all in the same courthouse, but with different judges. I practice in the Southern District of Florida. I know these judges well. And let me give you my perspective and kind of synthesize what's happening as Trump loses a series of cases already filed, filed for political reasons, filed to save his ass, filed to divert attention away from his failing administration.

46:19Michael Popok:I mean, let's be frank. We're 550 days into the administration. It's a pretty good sample size, don't you think? People in general hate the administration. We just saw the new polling numbers that just came out. He's lost his core MAGA group of non-college educated voters. He's lost them favorable to unfavorable by 32 points from where he was when he beat Kamala Harris, right? People are running away from Donald Trump and his administration and heading for the exits. I know there's new reporting that Donald Trump is about to anoint J.D. Vance to be the heir apparent. Where is J.D. Vance? I'm about to put him on the back of a milk carton.

47:00Michael Popok:I have, I mean, between Melania Trump abdicating her responsibilities as first lady completely and J.D. Vance, who I haven't seen hide nor hair of in a long, long time, despite a lot of, let's just say, challenges and scandals around this administration. I mean, what do they have him in? They have him in like some sort of cryogenic chamber. He's been wrapped in bubble wrap to protect him and his reputation not going to work. Okay. So you see the failing polling numbers. You see the failing economic numbers. We're supposed to be in the throes of Donald Trump's grand golden era. Every time I have to go on the White House's website, which I have to do for my job, I have to be, my eyes burn, You know, when I have to look at the golden era of Trump and everything, everything literally gold gilded.

47:50Michael Popok:But when you get past all of that and you look at the job numbers coming out from Donald Trump's own administration, his commerce secretary runs the Labor Department. The labor, the labor numbers for the jobs are abysmal. And that's being kind. He didn't make jobs last month. In the month of July, he lost 23 ,000 jobs. They just revised May and June's number to lose another 125 ,000 jobs. So he's only been averaging about 50 or 60 ,000 jobs per month, which I guess sounds like a lot, but not when you have an economy of 330 million people. By contrast, Joe Biden was making jobs at about 300 ,000 to 400 ,000 a month every month of his administration.

48:32Michael Popok:Donald Trump, I don't know, 10 % of that? So we feel it. prices sky high, inflation above the Federal Reserve target percentage of 2 % for five years in a row, 60 months in a row, and the failing polling numbers. So everything that we talk, many of the things that we talk about here on Legal AF, we have to also acknowledge that they are a bag of tricks. They are a bag of monkey wrenches that Donald Trump throws out after he's had a terrible week or a terrible day in lawsuit failure after failure after failure. You would never know, for instance, looking at this administration and its spokespeople, that they have lost 19 cases in a row.

49:20Michael Popok:They're 0 and 19 about trying to get voter data from states. And these judges that voted against it or ruled against it run the gamut from arch-conservative Republicans to Democrats and everything in between. You would know in watching them that they've lost about six or eight cases in the last week, worth hundreds of millions of dollars to Americans in funding. You would never look at it, if you heard their spokespeople or Donald Trump's ramblings, that, you know, he's going to have to stop the ballroom, likely. And it's construction. He's going to have to stop screwing around with the reflecting pool.

50:03Right.

50:04Michael Popok:You would never know it because what he tries to do is distract. Right. Bad news cycle. Let's try to indict Dr. Anthony Fauci. Bad news cycle. Let me try to fire Lisa Cook again from the Federal Reserve. I'll talk about that at the ending segment. Bad news cycle. Oh, let me try to rewrite the Supreme Court's decision against me in birthright citizenship by issuing a new executive order that's equally as unconstitutional. So whenever we talk about these things, we always have to see it with a jaundiced eye that his actions, a social media post that mainstream media chases, a lawsuit that gets filed with no merit by his private lawyers, a prosecution that his Department of Justice, led now by his right-hand man, Todd Blanche, his consigliere, goes after.

50:59Michael Popok:Those are all distractors from a completely failing administration, which will go down in history as one of the worst ever. And Donald Trump can't live with it. I mean, we just heard him say out loud, basically acknowledging he's going to lose at the midterms, in saying, they don't hate me. The public hates the Republicans. The public hates the Republicans. I think you are the leader of the Republican Party. You know, he sticks his big fat nose into controlling the House. So he's effectively his own Speaker of the House. Forget Mike Johnson. He's trying to become his own Senate Majority Leader.

51:40Michael Popok:Forget John Thune. So he's running around in the Capitol, in the legislative branch, making a mess. He's trying to run the Federal Reserve into the ground. It's not working. His economic numbers are terrible. The only thing that's up is his bank account. And he thinks the public doesn't like the Republicans. I mean, I agree that the unnamed Democrat versus the unnamed Republican, the Democrat is now up about 10 points in the polls without even putting a name to it. I mean, you have to still run the races. So I don't want to say that these are not important because the fight for the soul of America is now in the federal courts because we can't rely on Congress until it changes hands.

52:26Yeah.

52:28Michael Popok:So let me talk now about three cases, one involving the BBC, one involving the Wall Street Journal and one involving Capital One. What do they have in common? They were all sued by Donald Trump in what I guess is his favorite courthouse, although he keeps losing, which is in Miami, Southern District of Florida. This is interesting. He doesn't file these cases in the northern hinterland of the Southern District of Florida to try to land them in the Aileen Cannon courthouse, which is she's the sole judge in that courthouse in Fort Pierce. They could. They could file all these in Fort Pierce. I have a working theory why they're not doing that.

53:14Michael Popok:It's because these are loser cases brought in bad faith, as Judge Williams, another judge in the courthouse in the IRS case, has ruled. and they're using Alejandro Brito, this local lawyer in Coral Gables, to sort of run interference like chafe, you know, for the media to go follow, to get heat off of the White House, to get heat off of Donald Trump with these failing in my personal capacity lawsuits generally for defamation or something else ridiculous. And they don't want to put that in front of Judge Kennan because A, they're saving her for things like the grand conspiracy criminal investigation that allegedly is still going on under Todd Blanche, led by Joe DeGeneva, an 81-year-old former Reagan appointee and conspiracy theorist who's trying to figure out whether he can indict Barack Obama for something that happened 15 years ago, even though all presidents have immunity for what they did when they were in office.

54:14So they're saving her for the big, the big Megillah, right?

54:19Michael Popok:Right. And I've got a working theory that even though Sam Alito said he's not retiring this year, you know, and is going to is going to ride it out maybe to see what happens in November with the midterms and who controls the Senate. They are saving her for a potential seat on the United States Supreme Court. Heaven help us. That's my working theory. Let's get back to what's going on in the courthouses in Miami. In the BBC case, Donald Trump in December of 2025 sued the BBC for what he first said was$5 billion, but then it was$10 billion related to them clipping his hour-long, how boring, hour-long vomitous speech on the ellipse that led to people attacking the Capitol.

55:06Michael Popok:And they cut, they used the first part of the first minute, the last part of the last minute, they put it together. He's suing for defamation, what's called defamation by implication, saying, it's my words, but the way they edited it, it made me look bad. Made me look like an insurrectionist, which of course we did. Now, which of course he was. But you have to put that in context. Because in order for there to be damage, A, in order for there to be defamation, it has to be untrue. And you have to have a reputation that's capable of being defamed. Think about that. When it comes to Jan 6th, putting aside Donald Trump as sex abuser, Donald Trump as many other fraudster, Donald Trump as convicted felon, if you're just looking at Jan 6th, how can you defame his reputation?

55:55His reputation has been set in the public conscience and consciousness by the Jan 6 committee and its 600-page report that I still have on my desk in my office, by the eight days of hearings and testimony of dozens and dozens of witnesses who were Republican against him, by Jack Smith's indictment in D.C.

56:17Michael Popok:in front of Judge Chutkin and the resulting volume one of his special counsel report. Or when you look at all of that, and Donald Trump's own words in and around Jan 6, walk into park, innocent bystanders, political prisoners, how could you defame that reputation? There is just some reputations that can't be defamed. Like Hitler could not have brought a defamation case. That makes sense, right? Jeffrey Dahmer could not have brought a—Charlie Manson could not have, you know, brought a defamation case. uh trump can't in my view given everything that he's done can't bring a defamation case they're actually bringing they're actually raising that same argument in the wall street journal case which is before a different judge judge gales this first case is in front of judge altman so in that the new reporting that we have is that in the bbc case about a video clip on a documentary that nobody, I'll be, I'm trying to be kind here, that nobody watched in America on a channel I never heard of that BBC runs.

57:23Michael Popok:Trump's trying to argue that he suffered 10 billion, with a B, billion dollars worth of damages. But because he didn't want his trust, the Donald J. Trump trust, to have to be compelled to release all of his tax returns and all of his financial reports for the last two years, So he ran into court on an emergency application. But what he did is he killed his case because he had his lawyer tell the judge, oh, you don't have to look at the business numbers of the trust or its assets or its brand because we're not suing on that. We're going to rewrite our complaint to only focus on reputational harm to Donald J.

58:03Michael Popok:Trump. Let me translate that from the law. That means that Trump's going to have to show that he, for a guy that made$2 billion last year while he was president of the United States, his best, best year ever of revenue, of income. He's going to have to show that he would have made about$10 billion more. He would have made $12 billion except for that pesky little two-minute clip on a documentary nobody watched on a channel that BBC barely distributes in America. Okay, good luck. As the lawyers for the BBC said, if he's changing it to reputational, and that's all, we'll take it because his reputation for Gen 6 is terrible.

58:51Michael Popok:That was the best thing the BBC ever heard. I know mainstream media reported it like, Donald Trump won an emergency motion related to his finances. That's a big win. That's because, you know, I don't mean to be. What's the word? I'm kind to fellow commentators, but many of the fellow commentators are not practicing lawyers and they don't understand what happens next. You know, they just rip the headline and they can't explain it to you because they've never tried a case in front of a live jury. And I think that's one of the competitive advantages we have on Legal AF. I think that's one of the reasons that you come to us.

59:30Michael Popok:And then you've got, so that's what's going on in the BBC case. He killed his own case because he says, I'll stake my reputation on the case. Good for you. You're going to lose. On the Wall Street Journal case, that's before Judge Gales down the hall from Judge Altman. And in that case, he so sided with the Wall Street Journal who got sued for billions of dollars again. Because why? Because they published an article about the Epstein birthday book, this scrapbook that Ghislaine Maxwell put together, four volumes for Epstein's 50th birthday filled with disgusting comments and pictures, bringing down most of the men that were listed in there.

1:00:12Michael Popok:But for Donald Trump, he said, yeah, it's not me. Who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes? That's not my signature. I don't. Somebody must have set me up. Yeah. 30 years ago, before Epstein was arrested and before you ran for president, somebody time traveled and shoved your birthday card into the book with a naked woman and some crazy language. Nobody buys that. In any event, Wall Street Journal got a copy of it. We know where they got a copy of it from. They got a copy of it from the Epstein estate. That same book got published by Congress. Hell, we have it up on Legal AF Substack, and Midas Touch has it up as well.

1:00:49Michael Popok:So how can you continue to maintain a defamation case about it? Oh, well, I've denied it. OK. Well, I called Rupert Murdoch, Trump said. And I told him I'd deny it. OK. And they wrote that in the article. But that's not actual malice to publish reporting about what they've seen and what it implies. I mean, that's not how journalism or the First Amendment works or freedom of the press works. So he filed a couple of lawsuits, a couple of complaints. One got dismissed. He tried it again. And the judge took a look at it. I'm pretty sure he's signaling Judge Gales he's going to dismiss it finally and permanently and put it out of its misery because he's blocked all discovery in the case.

1:01:37Michael Popok:He's not allowing Donald Trump to go traipsing around the electronic forms and files and information and emails and depositions, whatever, of the Wall Street Journal to try to find a lawsuit, you know, needle in the haystack. My lawsuit's here somewhere. Yeah, you're not going to go finding it in Discovery. Because to unlock the key, to unlock the door of Discovery, you've got to have a valid operative complaint. And it looks like you don't. So that's going to be Judge Gale's just get ready when I come back on Legal AF or on Substack to tell you the Wall Street Journal case is finally dead and buried.

1:02:10Michael Popok:Which brings us to the third case in Miami, all happening this week. Also before Judge Altman, the BBC judge, in a case brought by Trump against Capital One. Trump and his family. Why? Because Capital One fired the Trump family and 400 or 300 of their bank accounts for 400 of their businesses. So Trump didn't like it. And he said, oh, the reason I got debanked at Capital One and Chase and all these, because they're woke. They're woke. Yeah. They're diversity, equity, inclusion. They're trying to take advantage of Jan 6th on me. So what Capital One did, now that we know, because they just made a filing, is that they told the Trump family, we're getting rid of you because activity in your accounts triggered our anti-money laundering compliance program and anti-terrorism funding program, which is run by a combination of AI software and former law enforcement.

1:03:10Michael Popok:And they have the right to fire anybody from the bank. It's in your account opening documents, I assure you. In my prior life of being a deputy general counsel in a Wall Street firm, financial services firm, I worked very closely with the compliance department. And I know all about Know Your Customer Regulations, AML regulations, anti-money laundering, Patriot Act, and the rest, and Bank Secrecy Act. and when you onboard a client or off-board them, the decision-making process that goes forward. And so they didn't make it public because they said, you know, listen, just go find other banking. Took them about six months.

1:03:45Michael Popok:They gave them an extension. Go. I think they went to Charles Schwab and some other places. Oh no, they wanted to bring the suit for billions of dollars against Capital One because they got their taste for getting, what's the word? Getting extortive payments, extortion payments from media companies and banks and law firms. They thought they could try it on Capital One. Capital One fired back this week and said, you know the reason we got rid of you and put it in a public filing, motion to dismiss, bright red letters blinking. Because we thought you were a potential money launderer along with your companies and or a terrorist financer.

1:04:25Michael Popok:What happens is they look, they scour and audit the accounts and they look at the transactions, the money in, the money out, the wire in, the wire out, the timing of it, the counterparty and stakeholder on the other side. Where's the money coming from? Is it consistent with what the bank understands your business to be, right? Are you kiting checks? Are you running personal expenses through your accounts? Probably all of it. And bells and whistles go off and people in positions of authority at banks have to fill out suspicious activity reports, SARs. There are probably dozens and dozens of SARs that were filed for the bank to make the decision to fire Donald Trump.

1:05:11Michael Popok:But by the way, they could have done it for no reason, any reason, even a bad reason. That's what your account opening statements say or documents say in the agreements. They could have done it because he's a persistent fraudster as a judge by a New York judge. They could have done it because his companies, Two of his companies were convicted of tax evasion and books and records fraud, 17 counts. And he was convicted of 34 felony counts of books and records fraud and election fraud. Could have been that. Could have been he's a judge, the sex abuser. Could have been that he was indicted related to Jan 6.

1:05:45Michael Popok:Pick it. They didn't use any of those. They said, no, our own personal AML program flagged him and we fired him. And they pushed the bank so hard that they had to disclose it. I mean, I think they did it with special delight. They actually didn't have to put that in the motion to dismiss that they filed, but they have. And that's in front of Judge Altman as well in the Southern District of Florida. So we've got the BBC case. We've got the Capital One case. And we've got the Wall Street Journal case all in the Miami Southern District of Florida, along with Judge Williams, who has the IRS case, all in the same courthouse.

1:06:20Michael Popok:He's doing terribly there. But remember what I said at the top of the segment. Why aren't they bringing these matters to Judge Cannon? And I've given you my working theory on that. When I come back, I want to talk about Lisa Cook on the Federal Reserve, them going after her again to try to fire her and get control of interest rates in this country by undermining the Federal Reserve's independence. And I want to talk about birthright citizenship and how Donald Trump, once again, is trying to deny people the right who were born in America to be U.S. citizens, despite the fact that he lost five to four or six to three on birthright citizenship just a month and a half ago.

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1:11:53Michael Popok:Welcome back. You're on LEGALAF, the podcast. I'm Michael Popok, along with Ben Misalas on the Saturday edition. And we all appreciate our audience, without which their generosity, their devotion, their thirst for law and politics commentary that's unvarnished, that is without blowing smoke or sunshine. We wouldn't be here. And we never let ourselves forget that. And it motivates everything we do on Midas Touch and Legal AF. Let's come into the home stretch now, two cases that are back. I mean, as I joked recently in a hot take, I feel like I'm watching Jordan Peele's masterpiece, Nope, when I hear the Donald Trump's trying to fire Lisa Cook of the Federal Reserve again, and trying to rip birthright citizenship, as now redefined by the United States Supreme Court, out of the Constitution.

1:12:49Michael Popok:I thought we did this already. He just got the rulings in June that he is wrong on both counts. He can't screw with the Federal Reserve and its independence the way that he's decided to do it by taking out Lisa Cook, whose term ends in 2038, in order to gain control of not just the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, but its open market committee that sets interest rates. And no, he can't ignore the clear direction of the Supreme Court 5-4 decision that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution precludes any attempt to deny people birthright citizenship, no matter who their parents are, no matter what crimes may have been committed, including birth tourism, whatever that's supposed to be.

1:13:39Michael Popok:But no, Donald Trump's issued a new executive order, and he's sent a letter to Lisa Cook saying he's going to start her firing all over again. I mean, they are conjoined twins, so let's talk about them that way. Lisa Cook, appointed by Joe Biden, giving, at least through 2028, the Democrats or non-Trumpers a four-to-three advantage on the seven-member Board of Governors. They pick the regional presidents of the Federal Federal Reserve. Five of those rotate on. They form a committee once a month called the Federal Open Markets Committee to set interest rates, which determines how much you and I pay for mortgages and loans and credit cards, how much people who borrow money for business purposes or otherwise ultimately pay.

1:14:26Michael Popok:And the lower that number, the more free money is in our economy to stimulate it. If you overstimulate it, you get hyperinflation. We're already at inflation that's five years too long. So Lord knows what would happen if Donald Trump got his hands on the spigot related to cash. He tried to fire Federal Reserve Chair Jay Powell, claiming there was criminal construction cost overruns related to the refurbishment of three or four hundred-year-old buildings that make up the Federal Reserve. Lost there badly. Jay Powell has still stepped down as chairman when his term was over, but it's still on the Federal Reserve.

1:15:07Michael Popok:So he went after Lisa Cook. Lisa Cook is one in a series of half a dozen political targets of Donald Trump that he's tried to claim committed mortgage fraud. Certainly mortgage fraud is so rampant, everybody in Donald Trump's administration or on the Federal Reserve is doing it, including reporting by The Wall Street Journal that Scott Bessett, the Treasury Secretary, has done exactly what Donald Trump claims that Lisa Cook and others did, like Letitia James, the Attorney General of New York, or Adam Schiff, which is have multiple homes, okay, and check certain boxes that gave them a slight advantage in an interest rate, maybe$30 or$50 a month, by claiming that this was a first home, not a rental home, not a second home, that they wouldn't rent it out, or whatever the particular circumstances were.

1:15:58Michael Popok:He tried Letitia James, the New York Attorney General, tried to get her indicted three times, grand juries rejected it. He hasn't tried since. He never got a grand jury to indict Adam Schiff, the senator from California, on mortgage fraud. And then, of course, he went after Lisa Cook by having Bill Pulte, his political hack, who is a mini-Trumper, who runs his mortgage unit, the federal Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, to violate the Privacy Act, pick and choose pieces of paper out of thousands of pieces of paper about Lisa Cook's buying of two homes from her credit union, an Atlanta condominium and a home in Michigan, from the same credit union.

1:16:39Michael Popok:So how do you defraud the same bank? I mean, isn't that literally impossible to say, well, she said the Atlanta home was her primary and the Michigan home. It's the same bank. Don't they know what their own branches or their own loan officers are doing? So they take, oh, look at these signatures on the same day. Right, it was a double closing. Right, on the same day. It's not fraud. It's not criminal fraud. It's not criminal fraud to provide a good reason to remove her from the Federal Reserve. But they're trying to rattle her cage and get her off. Fortunately, she's not easily rattled. She's won every court case involving this that she has filed, including up to the United States Supreme Court.

1:17:23And her lawyer, Abby Lowell, is ready for the next round.

1:17:27Michael Popok:Why are we in a next round? Because when the Supreme Court in June blocked Donald Trump from firing her, they said they didn't like it because he didn't give her due process. the good reason for firing her wasn't properly developed. They affirm that courts have jurisdiction to provide oversight in this area. There has to be a good reason. There has to be due process. And they also said, in one of the footnotes, they also said that Trump can try it again, but they have to develop the facts and show that the thing she's being accused of would undermine her ability to be fair and independent on the Federal Reserve.

1:18:10Michael Popok:I'm not sure a personal mortgage fraud that was allegedly committed before she became a member of the Federal Reserve, the way this is being alleged, constitutes that. But we're going to find out really quickly because they've now sent a new letter to her in which they've said, again, not listing any of the facts. We think there's reasonable cause to believe that you've committed mortgage fraud. I mean, when you have a Supreme Court case that tells you you better be pretty specific, very specific in your case that you're building against the Federal Reserve member before you fire them, do you think this satisfies that?

1:18:51Michael Popok:Here's what the letter reads from those that have seen it. You are hereby provided notice that the president is considering removing you from your position on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve due to there being sufficient reason to believe. Stop right there. Who wrote this? To believe that you made false statements on one or more mortgage agreements. Sign Dan Scavino for the president. Are you effing kidding me? That's not going to pass muster. And Abby Lowell, the lawyer for Lisa Cook, has been ready for this as soon as the Supreme Court ruled in her favor. Abby Lowell came back and said that the new allegations, whatever they are supposed to be, they're basically, they're not even grammatically correct.

1:19:36Michael Popok:As baseless now as they were a year ago, no matter what President Trump tries to do next, Abby Lowell said, this much is clear. There is no valid cause for removing Governor Cook. as we did before. We will challenge this latest pretext and preserve her position in the historic role of the Fed. Because the get rid of her would give Donald Trump a four to three advantage on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, which would let him pick the five additional members of the Federal Open Markets Committee. And he would gain control of all the votes there. Right now, he just controls the chairperson and maybe one or two other votes.

1:20:13Michael Popok:And it's making him upset. So he's going back after Lisa Cook. We'll update you as this will inevitably land probably back on Judge Gia Cook's bench. She was the judge in the lower court on the original case and then up to the United States Supreme Court. I don't think it's going to be an August event. I think the new term is going to reopen. We're going to have some litigation in the courts below through the month of August, probably into September. And sometime when the new court opens for the Supreme Court, the first Monday in October. We'll probably see some action October, November, December, similar to last year, related to Lisa Cook again in the Federal Reserve.

1:20:53Michael Popok:Again, this is just Donald Trump trying to distract from the failings of his economy. When you're not making any jobs, and prices are stubbornly high, and people continue to suffer and blame you and your administration, you got to come up with something else. Let's attack Lisa Cook again. Now let's turn briefly to the birthright citizenship case. There we go. Now, when we did the reporting on birthright citizenship, which just got completely affirmed with a final notice by the Supreme Court in the last few days, we reported it as either a five to four or six to three decision led by Chief Justice Roberts to reaffirm a hundred-year-old precedent in a case called Wong Kim Ark from, I think, 1901 that said that if you are born in the United States, except in very rare circumstances, It's like you're born to an ambassador on, you know, like inside the embassy.

1:21:49Michael Popok:Then you're not going to be a U.S. citizen, but everybody else is. That precedent, five to four, Roberts, Ketanji Brown-Jackson, Sotomayor, and Kagan, right? That's four. and then you had a couple of more people sort of join, including Kavanaugh, right? But it was dangerously close. You know, we like to say it was six to three. It was really five to four on the Constitution. Kavanaugh ruled that the Nationality Act, which came out later after the Wong Kim Ark case, effectively was Congress memorializing what the Supreme Court had done in a statute. But in a footnote, Kavanaugh said, but if Congress wants to create new exceptions where people aren't U.S.

1:22:44Michael Popok:citizens, Congress can do it. That was an invitation, apparently, to Donald Trump to use what we now call the great concurrence, the great concurrer in Kavanaugh. He's always concurring about something. To say, aha, Congress can do it. I probably can do it by executive order. No, you can't. In fact, John Roberts said in his decision that this historical precedent of birthright citizenship stretches back before the American Revolution into like 15 and 1400 Britain, London, England. And it's a right that has been unchallenged. And it was the purpose or the goal by the framers and by the 14th Amendment framers to have as broad birthright citizenship as back in pre-colonial times in England.

1:23:40Michael Popok:And the only exceptions were very limited. It was like certain Indian tribes, Native American tribes, and like ambassadors. Trump heard that and saw Kavanaugh's concurrence and said, aha, I can create an entire new group. So he had a whole thing in an executive order about, well, if you're participating in birth tourism and you're committing a crime, a child that's born on U.S. soil whose parent was involved in birth tourism, that's not going to be a U.S. citizen. That's not what it says. Look, if Trump wants to make illegal birth tourism, people trying to have babies here in America on purpose in order to make them into U.S.

1:24:24Michael Popok:citizens, you can criminalize that. You can criminalize that. You can criminalize the mule, the broker, the service, the person, put them in jail. But the baby, if the baby slips through, no pun intended, if the baby comes out in America, it's a U.S. citizen. So saying no, no, if it's birth, if you're not just ambassadors, anybody that works for a foreign country that's in America, anybody, anybody, anybody in the front office or the back office clerical. Otherwise, yeah, we're going to throw you. Yeah, your kids aren't U.S. citizens either. If you're in certain territories that are American territories, like the Mariana Islands, no, you're not going to be a U.S.

1:25:11Michael Popok:citizen either. If you work for a government, a foreign government or a foreign corporation, and you have some sort of immunity in this country from suit, yeah, your kids aren't going to be U.S. citizens either. What does it say that in the Supreme Court decision? It didn't. In fact, it's the opposite. The Supreme Court was trying to shut down the exemptions, not add to them. or let Donald Trump add to them. But you see how hot Donald Trump got about Kavanaugh's observation that Congress can do? Well, then let Congress try. And then we'll see if Congress's act is inconsistent with the 14th Amendment and whether there are five votes, five votes, which right now there are, to protect the birthright citizenship as a part of the 14th Amendment, not as part of a statute.

1:26:04So what's going to happen there?

1:26:07Michael Popok:You know what's going to happen. Groups are going to join together and file multiple lawsuits like the first birthright citizenship case in places like Washington State Federal Court, Rhode Island Federal Court, Massachusetts Federal Court, Maryland Federal Court, the District of Columbia, LA, you know, there's a reason that these cases are filed in those federal courts. And then they'll go up to favorable appellate courts, like the Ninth Circuit, the First Circuit, the Fourth Circuit. You know, we sort of avoid the Fifth Circuit, the Eleventh Circuit. And then it'll land on the doorstep of the United States Supreme Court in blocking this executive order.

1:26:51Michael Popok:Some judge in the next 30 days, based on a lawsuit filed maybe by the Democratic Attorneys General next week, is going to block this executive order as being inconsistent with the case of Barbara versus Trump, which is the birthright citizenship case. And then it's going to get up on an appeal and a fast track to the Supreme Court. I don't think, again, it's going to be in August, but maybe in late September or early on October. We're going to be reporting on it. Where do we do that? Right here on Midas Touch and Legal AF. I'm so glad you've joined us. You can see that even though Ben was on vacation last week and I'm still on vacation with my family now, this is important to us.

1:27:33Michael Popok:the continued cadence and content and speaking to our audience and keeping our audience knitted together in the face of Todd Blanche's confirmation and focusing on the federal courts that are doing God's work right now, the laboring oar right now to protect our democracy, whether it's Judge Sullivan in Katie Fang's lawsuit about the Epstein survivors and their dignity and the documents that we all deserve. Or Judge Williams in the Southern District of Florida, who's protecting us about the way she's declaring bad faith and foul in the way that Donald Trump and Todd Blanche created the Jan 6th fund.

1:28:12Michael Popok:Or Judge Brinkema, who's about to decide whether Donald Trump's immunity pass for tax evasion given to him by his now attorney general is constitutional or not. As other federal courts about mail-in balloting, which is now up at the United States Supreme Court as we speak, and about the weaponization of the post office, whether their decisions are going to be upheld. You know, these cases matter. And even the private cases by Donald Trump as president, not president, in all of his defamation cases, the cases in front of Judge Gales, about the Wall Street Journal in front of Judge Altman, about the BBC or Capital One.

1:28:56Michael Popok:These cases matter. And you deserve to get the straight scoop, right? Honest commentary, knowledgeable, educated commentary. I'm so tired of reading in mainstream media, misinterpretations, getting judges' names wrong, getting what the meaning of a phrase means in an order or in the procedure of something on appeal. And I like slap my forehead. I'm like, I got to hurry up and do a video to educate our audience about what's really going on because this is wrong. I just read something about Judge Altman and the case I just talked to you about related to the BBC. And they, even though Judge Altman signed the order, this mainstream media outlet referred to it as the magistrate judge's order.

1:29:45Michael Popok:I'm like, oh my God. I mean, they can't even get the basics right. So I'm glad we're all here together. You're generous with your time. We appreciate it. I can't even tell you how many times we talk internally at Midas, Ben, the brothers, me, our team, our producers, about our audience and how, I mean, everything we do, the guiding light and principle for what we do is what is good and right and just for our audience. That's it. And that, because we never waiver from that, we don't disappoint because we have our moral compass. You said it for us. You know, we have the sextant, but you are the North Star.

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