In short
Gavin Newsom and a coalition of 23 state attorneys general (District of Massachusetts) file an emergency lawsuit and seek a temporary restraining order to force the USDA to restore SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) benefits during the federal shutdown, claiming the Trump administration unlawfully suspended November payments despite available contingency funds.
Guest backgrounds
The episode centers on Rob Bonta, California Attorney General, who leads the coalition’s legal action; Michael Popak is the host/interviewer.
Key claims
USDA suspended SNAP for the first time in the program’s history; USDA had a $6 billion “rainy day”/contingency plan but later stopped using it and blamed Democrats; the suspension will cause hunger and malnutrition for vulnerable people.
Notable examples
Bonta cites 5.5 million Californians on CalFresh monthly (1.9 million children) and says 41 million Americans nationwide will lose benefits.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOOverview of New Lawsuit
1:53 to 3:21
An emergency lawsuit filed by 23 AGs regarding SNAP funding.
“It's under the SNAP program, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.”
Political Maneuvering with SNAP
3:21 to 4:19
Discussion on how the Trump administration impacts SNAP benefits.
“There is a program called SNAP, which has to do with making sure that children get proper nutrition, those that are below the poverty line, let's say.”
Impact on Low-Income Families
4:19 to 6:06
The consequences of withholding SNAP benefits for vulnerable populations.
“Congress made it clear that they want the SNAP program to continue while the government is shut down.”
Statements from AG Rob Bonta
6:06 to 9:18
Rob Bonta addresses the impact of the SNAP benefit suspension.
“It's cruel and it speaks to his basic lack of humanity.”
Statements from AG Rob Bonta
9:19 to 11:31
Rob Bonta addresses the impact of the SNAP benefit suspension.
“All of them are counting on this program.”
Next Steps in the SNAP Lawsuit
11:54 to 13:19
Discussion on the temporary restraining order and its implications.
“They're asking this Massachusetts judge to enter a temporary restraining order.”
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Transcript
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1:52We've got a new
1:55Michael Popok:lawsuit and temporary restraining order demand that's been filed in the District of Massachusetts by 23 attorneys general representing primarily blue states that are trying to get back$8 billion worth of funding for children for their nutritional needs. It's under the SNAP program, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. And first, the United States Department of Agriculture said, we have a plan in September to allocate a rainy day fund of six billion dollars to make sure that children don't starve during the shutdown while Donald Trump builds a golden ballroom. Then a few days later, they got caught up in the politics and they issued another memo that said, we have the money and we're evaluating how to use it.
2:45Michael Popok:Then a few days later, they sent out a memo to the states and said, we have the money, we could distribute it, but we're not going to, and then tried to blame the Democrats for keeping the government shut down. Playing politics with children's lives. I'm Michael Popak. Let's cover this for Midas Touch and Legal AF. New lawsuit just filed today up in Massachusetts, led by the Attorney General of California and others, Rob Bonta, the Attorney General of California, Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, taking the leading role here in this particular lawsuit. I'll try to get Rob Bonta on to talk to us about this and brief our audience.
3:20Michael Popok:But here's what we know so far. There is a program called SNAP, which has to do with making sure that children get proper nutrition, those that are below the poverty line, let's say. But of course, they're playing hostage with children's nutrition, letting children starve in order to make the point that they want the Democrats to approve the reopening of the government. The only reason the Democrats are not voting for the reopening of the government is they're trying to get another 22 million, many of the same 22 million people, covered with health insurance by having tax deductions added, continued for Obamacare.
4:01Michael Popok:That's the fight, folks. It's not over migrants and illegals getting insurance. It's about making sure that 22 million Americans get insurance, many of which are in the same SNAP program that they're now putting at risk. And what the lawsuit says and what the temporary restraining order says is that there is an acknowledged rainy day fund. Congress made it clear that they want the SNAP program to continue while the government is shut down. No doubt about it. But they are not allowing it because first in a September 30th report by the Department of Agriculture, they said, yeah, we have the funds and we have a contingency plan and we're going to lay it out.
4:47Michael Popok:We've got six billion in a rainy day fund. Then the rainy day fund disappeared. Then they went and blamed the Democrats. And here's here. Let me just give you where we are right now in terms of. Here's what Rob Bonta had to say, the attorney general of California, who I've had the pleasure to interview. He said, let's be clear about what's happening. For the first time ever, SNAP benefits will not be available to the millions of low-income individuals who depend on them to put food on the table. November SNAP benefits, you know, Thanksgiving month, can and must be provided even with the government shutdown.
5:23Michael Popok:USDA not only has the authority to use contingency funds, it has a legal duty. The Trump administration has chosen instead to play politics with this essential safety net that so many people depend on, including 5.5 million individuals in California alone. With the holidays around the corner, we're seeing costs for groceries continue to increase and food banks facing unprecedented demand. We're taking a stand because families will experience hunger and malnutrition if the Trump administration gets its way. While Donald Trump, Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, continued, parades around the world trying to repair the economic damage he's done with his incompetence.
6:02Michael Popok:He's denying food to millions of Americans who will go hungry next month. It's cruel and it speaks to his basic lack of humanity. He doesn't care about the people of this country, only himself. I mean, you can't deny they're playing politics because on September 30th, they said they had the money and a plan to pay for underprivileged children to keep them from starving to death. And then it changed by October the 24th. They said they were suspending the program. Well, what changed? Let me guess. Where did the$6 billion go? That's a real question. Where did the$6 billion contingency plan go? The USDA said, well, we might need it for a hurricane or something.
6:42Michael Popok:Are you kidding? We got starving children in America. Some of them, Republican, by the way, if you want to play politics. Is part of the contingency plan being used to pay the military, the National Guard? How about the ballroom? We already know they took research and development grants that were for the military and put it into paying for the military and for the ballroom. Here's how the USDA has gotten political. Here's their statement that they made. We're approaching an inflection point for Senate Democrats. Look how they're playing politics with people's lives. continue to hold out for the far left wing of the party or reopen the government so mothers, babies, and the most vulnerable among us can receive timely wick and snap allotments.
7:29Michael Popok:Oh, yuck. I mean, talk about calling it out right there. That's what they're doing. You know, the Democrats are for getting 22 million people covered with insurance, Americans, and they're for stopping starving babies. You see where the Republicans are at. Here's a statement about the SNAP lawsuit I thought you'd be interested in. Let's play the clip. I'm going to kick it off here today to announce California's latest lawsuit against the federal government and specifically the U.S. Department of Agriculture, also known as USDA, and Secretary Brooke Rollins. Using the current federal shutdown as a scapegoat, USDA has unlawfully suspended funds for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, SNAP, for the first time in the program's history, informing state agencies that the federal government will withhold all November benefit payments.
8:31Trump and Rollins are cutting off benefits for more than 41 million Americans. 41 million Americans, red states and blue states, folks who rely on SNAP to put food on the table, even though there are billions of dollars in contingency funds and other funds that could be used to provide SNAP benefits during the shutdown. They are doing this on purpose. It is deliberate. It is intentional. They have the funds. They're just not using them. The vast majority of SNAP recipients are families with kids, elderly individuals, and people with disabilities. These are our most vulnerable. Society should be judged on how we treat the most vulnerable.
9:09Trump gets an F for what he is doing here to our kids and to our most vulnerable Americans. Here in California, our SNAP program, CalFresh, supports 5.5 million Californians every month, including 1.9 million children. All of them are counting on this program. They're counting on their government to follow through on its promise and to provide the support that they need. In abruptly suspending SNAP, Trump and Rollins have broken the law. They have forced states to scramble to try and clean up the federal government's mess. And worst of all, they've left 41 million Americans unsure of where their next meal will come from.
9:53With today's lawsuit, our coalition of 23 attorneys general and three governors who are standing up for the people in their state have made it clear that we refuse to stand by and allow the Trump administration to arbitrarily and unlawfully do away with a decades old safety net program, the country's most important tool for fighting against hunger.
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12:30Michael Popok:I think now you're talking about irreparable harm. You're talking about dying babies. I mean, literally. And a federal judge is going to have to step in. And the Supreme Court is going to have to declare once and for all what side they are on. Are they on the side of death and destruction? Are they on the side of starving children? Or are they on the side of the unitary president model to make sure Donald Trump has every ounce of power that he was allocated in their interpretation of the Article 2 of the Constitution? What side are you on? We're going to know soon enough because the rubber is going to meet the road right now with these snap payments.
13:06As Donald Trump runs around bragging about his golden ballroom, help dying American babies.
13:13Michael Popok:Try that. So I'm going to continue to follow it right here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF. This is going to be an up to the minute issue. We're going to have temporary restraining orders being entered, likely briefing around the issue. Follow all of it on Legal AF YouTube and Legal AF Substack. And of course, we've got the Midas Touch subscriber base here. Hit the free subscribe button. That's what keeps us in business, everybody. Our subscriber base, the size of our audience. And that's the way you can contribute. And of course, we've got the Legal AF podcast, Wednesdays and Saturdays.
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From the publisher
23 States, led by California, have sued the Trump Administration to force it to fund a program designed to prevent tens of millions of babies and children from being malnourished and starving to death during the Shutdown, as Trump cuts off funds but finds funding for his pet projects, including the Golden Ball Room. Michael Popok reports on the new suit and Trump’s modern day Marie Antoinette moment in history as he continues to be immune to the suffering of Americans.
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