In short
The episode criticizes interim U.S. attorney Lindsay Halligan and the DOJ for allegedly mishandling grand jury materials in the James Comey case, including filing a seven-minute grand jury transcript that (the host claims) contradicts prior sworn statements and may waive DOJ arguments to block transcripts from the defense.
Guest backgrounds
No guests are interviewed. The hosts are Michael Popok (Legal AF / Midas Touch Network) and the episode references other DOJ personnel (Lindsay Halligan, Tyler Lemons) and judges (Judge Curry, Judge Nachmanoff, magistrate Judge Fitzpatrick).
Key claims
Halligan allegedly told Judge Curry there was no missing transcript gap, then later filed a short transcript to “fix” the record. The grand jury allegedly never saw the full indictment signed by the foreperson, with two inconsistent indictments (two-count vs three-count) allegedly created via cut-and-paste outside the full grand jury’s view.
Notable examples
The host cites a 6:47–6:54 transcript window, a two-hour deliberation gap, and magistrate Judge Fitzpatrick’s claimed constitutional errors (Fifth Amendment self-incrimination and shifting the burden to the defense).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLindsay Halligan's Major Legal Missteps
0:05 to 2:00
Explore the serious errors made by U.S. attorney Lindsay Halligan in court filings.
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Issues with Grand Jury Transcripts
2:00 to 5:00
Delve into the problems surrounding the grand jury transcripts in the Comey case.
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The Confusing Indictment Process
5:00 to 8:00
Understand the discrepancies in the indictment process and Halligan's confusion in court.
“And what they tried to say is that this clears up everything.”
Consequences of Halligan's Errors
8:57 to 14:01
Examine the potential fallout for Lindsay Halligan and the implications for the case against James Comey.
“And I'm thinking, well, they must think this really helps them fix the problem that they had in court with admitting that the grand jury in its entirety did not see the full indictment that the foreperson signed.”
Analyzing the Fifth Amendment Violation
14:01 to 14:54
Discussion on the implications of a potential Fifth Amendment violation in a case against James Comey.
“I don't see how Judge Nachmanoff doesn't turn over the grand jury transcript as recommended by the magistrate judge immediately to the defense.”
Updates on Legal AF and Community Engagement
14:55 to 15:15
Announcement of subscriber milestones and encouragement to engage with the Legal AF community.
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Promoting Legal AF Substack Content
15:16 to 15:58
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Transcript
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0:30Michael Popok:The interim U.S. attorney, Lindsay Halligan, novice prosecutor that she is, is at it again. Another major screw-up that probably kills her in not one but two different courtrooms. She has suddenly filed seven minutes of a grand jury transcript that she told another federal judge, Judge Curry, didn't exist. Now she's filing it in Judge Nakmanoff's courtroom because when Judge Nakmanoff asked her questions in the last 24 hours, she effectively either lied to the judge, couldn't remember or recall, and is now trying to fix it with a grand jury transcript about whether the entirety of the grand jury against the former FBI director James Comey saw the actual indictment that was signed by the foreperson or not.
1:15Michael Popok:She can't even get the basics straight. And then she filed a seven-minute grand jury transcript. I thought I was watching something about Mary's seven-minute abs. And in the seven-minute grand jury transcript. She thinks it helps her. But for me, it waives any argument by the Department of Justice to stop the grand jury transcripts in their entirety from going to the defense. You can't use them as a sword and a shield, as we like to say in the law. So you got that problem. And then when I matched up the grand jury transcript that she did supply Judge Nakmanoff for seven minutes with an earlier sworn statement that she made to Judge Curry, she's in big trouble.
1:54Michael Popok:And I found it. I'm going to report it to you right here. I'm Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF, I'm Michael Popok. Take a minute, hit the free subscribe button here on Midas. Come over to Legal AF and the YouTube channel and help us crack the 1 million subscriber barrier. We hope to do it by Thanksgiving. Let's get into Lindsay Halligan and what's going on with her inability to do her job properly. She is woefully incompetent and it shows in every one of her filings. It begs the question, is no one who is competent in the Department of Justice, like a Todd Blanche, the number two, are they reviewing anything that she's doing, any procedure that she's employing?
2:32Michael Popok:I don't think so. So the other day I reported that during a hearing in front of Judge Nakmanoff, he called Lindsey Halligan up to the podium. He said, you're counsel of record. You're signing everything as the U.S. attorney. You could be heard by the court. So what happened with the, why are there two indictments? And what happened to them? And she had to admit, along with Tyler Lemons, her other novice U.S. attorney that were in the room, that, and this is on the record, she's a sworn, she's an officer of the court, that the jury never saw the second indictment, because there were two of them, because she's terrible, in which it only had two counts.
3:15Michael Popok:that for the original indictment she went that she had under her under her arm when she went into the grand jury on September 25th had three counts. The grand jury purportedly only returned a true bill on two, but we can't figure that out. Somebody cut and pasted and edited like a grand jury coordinator or something and then had the four person alone, but without the other 13 that would have approved the indictment, a sign off on the indictment. So the entirety of the grand jury that voted to indict never saw the document that we now call the indictment. We knew there was something wrong because we had the reporting back in September that the magistrate judge in charge of the grand jury proceedings said, why do I have two pieces of paper, both signed by Lindsay Halligan and both signed by the foreperson?
4:05Michael Popok:One with two counts and one says that they have not reached a true bill and one with three counts. And Halligan at the time said, I don't know, because I only signed one. Well, we got the transcript now, and it's even worse for Lindsey Halligan. But let's just hold this point here. Halligan, in the last 24 hours, tells the federal judge, Judge Nachmanoff, that the grand jury never saw the entirety of the indictment before it was signed by the foreperson. That's a big problem for the indictment surviving. And Tyler Lemons, who's her novice prosecutor handling the case day to day, admitted the same.
4:46Michael Popok:They then decided they needed to clean that up. So miraculously, a seven minute transcript, grand jury transcript right here, which we will post in Substack, appeared and got filed. And what they tried to say is that this clears up everything. that this demonstrates that the grand jury returned a true bill on two counts. I don't think so. I also think this is a problem. Let's start with the fact that they found the 6.47 p.m. till 6.54 p.m. transcript. The magistrate judge already questioned what happened to the gap. Why is there a two-hour gap between the end of the presentation and the deliberation.
5:37Michael Popok:And Lindsey Halligan said, well, I didn't have any more interaction with the grand jury at any other time and during their deliberation. That's not true. Because after the deliberation, she and the foreperson came into court and here is the transcript of that proceeding. So already she's in big trouble with Judge Curry about whether she should remain as the U.S. attorney. Here's what she said in what she filed on the 14th of November to Judge Curry. She said, at the November 13th hearing, Judge Cameron Curry expressed concern regarding an alleged gap in the grand jury record, referring specifically to the period beginning at approximately 428 when the transcript reflects that I, Lindsay Halligan, and the court reporter exited the grand jury.
6:24Michael Popok:the judge says the entirety from the end of that till the indictment was returned, where's the transcript? And Halligan has the balls to tell the judge there is no transcript when she filed on the 14th. She said, I submit this declaration to clarify and to confirm that the grand jury transcript accurately reflects the full extent of my appearance before the grand jury and to explain that the period in question consists solely of the grand jury's private deliberations. I presented the case and she says there was no additional presentation, interaction, or discussion with the grand jury outside of what is reflected in the transcript.
7:08Michael Popok:That's a lie. Look at the 647 to 654 transcript. This is part of the missing transcript that Judge Curry wanted in her courtroom. She also questioned how could Pam Bondi have ratified as the Department of Justice Attorney General the actions of Lindsay Halligan if she didn't have access to the transcript that's now miraculously appeared. Big problems for Lindsay Halligan. At first, the clues don't seem connected. A bill here, a fee there, but step back and the pattern is clear. Credit card debt is the suspect hiding in plain sight. It doesn't kick down the door. It follows you like a shadow. And just when you think you're safe, it strikes.
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9:24Michael Popok:And so I'm reading it like, all right, this is going to help her, right? I don't think so. Here's where it starts. They bring the foreperson in to meet with a magistrate judge because she's presiding over the matter. And the judge says, I got a problem. I got two pieces of paper. They're both signed by Lindsay Halligan. They're both signed by you. They both can't be the indictment. Which is it? So you already have a problem. So she calls up Halligan on page four of the transcript. And she said, who's here for the government this evening? Miss Halligan. Lindsay Halligan. Notice she doesn't say interim U.S.
10:02Michael Popok:attorney Lindsay Halligan. Lindsay Halligan. Like she just came off the street. Okay, please come to the podium, please. So this has never happened before, the magistrate judge says, and she's handled thousands of these. I've been handed two documents that are in the Mr. Comey case that are inconsistent with one another. There seems to be a discrepancy. They're both signed by the foreperson. The one that says it's a failure to concur in an indictment, it doesn't say with respect to one count. It looks like they failed to concur across all three counts. so I'm a little confused as to why I was handed two things with the same case number that are inconsistent.
10:40Michael Popok:We're all waiting for the answer. Miss Halligan. So I only reviewed the one with the two counts that our office redrafted when we found out about the two. Two counts that were true billed and I signed that one. I did not see the other one. I don't know where that came from. Let's stop right there. She had a three count indictment. She doesn't know where that came from? That's what she presented to the grand jury. They rejected the three-count indictment. They then cut and pasted and created a two-count indictment outside the presence of the full grand jury and had the four-person sign it. That's the problem, Lindsay.
11:13Michael Popok:The court said, you didn't see it? I didn't see that one. That's already a lie. It's already a lie or just gross negligence on behalf of Lindsay Halligan. Her procedure, her people hand in to the judge through the court deputy, Two documents. And she doesn't know where the one came from? Ms. Halligan, no, no, no. I prepared the three counts. Oh, so now she flip-flops and says, I prepared the larger indictment. I only signed the one, though, with the two count. I don't know which one with three counts you have in your hand. Court says, OK, it has your signature on it. Stop right there. She signed both.
11:55Michael Popok:She signed both the one that was not apparently true billed because it was rejected by the grand jury because they didn't agree on count one. And she signed the one that is the actual indictment. It's not a clerical error. It's a fundamental error in procedure related to the grand jury. And then Ms. Halligan, when she's told that both have her signature on it, including the one that she says she never saw, says, okay, well, the court says, so I think to clean up the record here, what needs to happen, Madam Foreperson? And then they go through the order of operation. since you provided this court this is what the court says in the bottom of page six to miss halligan with respect to this case miss halligan since you've provided to this court i assume you intend to make it public so both of the indictments will go on the docket i just want to make sure that you understand that and that is your intention uh okay understood all right we're adjourned this Does it help her?
12:54Michael Popok:First of all, as I said, it's completely inconsistent with the declaration under oath that she filed with Judge Curry. It's completely inconsistent with what she told Judge Nachmanoff that had happened on the fly, but she can't remember. And she's even confused inside of the September 25 hearing for just seven minutes. And on top of that, filing just a few spoon fed pages of this now disclosed grand jury transcript is a waiver, as far as I'm concerned, by the government. Now, because they're fighting over whether the grand jury transcript in its entirety should be turned over to the defense. James Covey just filed his final brief saying that we got a lot of problems.
13:38Michael Popok:First of all, Judge Fitzpatrick, the magistrate judge, already said that he reviewed the grand jury transcript and that Lindsey Halligan committed two fundamental errors of constitutional law in making her presentation to the grand jury, let alone the evidence that she left out, let alone the misstatement of evidence that she did in order to get the grand jury to agree. She violated the Fifth Amendment right of James Comey, suggesting to the grand jury that he needed to testify in violation of his right against self-incrimination and also effectively said that the burden was on the defense, not on the prosecution to prove the case.
14:17Michael Popok:I don't see how Judge Nachmanoff doesn't turn over the grand jury transcript as recommended by the magistrate judge immediately to the defense. He's considering whether to dismiss the indictment for a vindictive prosecution, for sure. But he also will ultimately have to decide if he agrees, if he keeps the prosecution alive, he has to determine whether the indictment survives or whether it should be dismissed for these constitutional infirmities, while Judge Curry has to decide whether Lindsey Halligan lives or dies as a federal prosecutor at all. Fast-moving case. You're going to want to be on Legal AF for all of the updates, including Legal AF Substack, where I post all of these filings so that you can read them for yourself.
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From the publisher
The DOJ and Lindsey Halligan just found a new way to destroy their criminal case against Former FBI Dir. James Comey— by filing 7 minutes of a grand jury transcript that not only proves they lied to another federal judge last week in a sworn filing, but also constitutes a “waiver” of any argument they had against having the entirety of the grand jury transcript turned over asap to the defense. Michael Popok closely examines the new last-minute filing and proves how it may not only kill off the indictment but may also lead to Halligan’s disqualification as prosecutor.
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