In short
The episode argues that FBI Director Kash Patel is failing in congressional oversight, especially regarding the FBI’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case and the release of Epstein-related files that the host claims implicate Donald Trump. It highlights a House Judiciary hearing where Rep. Ted Lieu questions Patel about a safe found at Epstein’s Manhattan residence and alleged nude photos. The host also claims Patel admitted he hasn’t reviewed the full Epstein files and argues this should lead to Patel’s firing, using “adverse inference” logic for withheld documents.
Guests
No named guests appear in the transcript. Referenced figures include Michael Wolff (journalist interviewed), Sidney Blumenthal and Sean Wilentz (authors/interviewers), and Michael Popok (host).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOKash Patel Under Scrutiny
0:30 to 1:56
Discussion on Kash Patel and his grilling by senators regarding FBI oversight.
“Things have gone from bad to worse for Kash Patel, the embattled, beleaguered FBI director.”
Epstein's Search Warrant
1:56 to 3:10
Representative Ted Lieu questions Patel about the FBI's Epstein investigation.
“Patel, for being here today, the FBI searched Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan residence, correct?”
Michael Wolff's Revelations
3:10 to 4:23
Discussion of Michael Wolff's accounts relating to Trump and Epstein.
“I was sitting talking to Epstein and he said, wait a minute, I got to show you something.”
The FBI's Institutional Crisis
4:23 to 6:06
Analysis of Patel's leadership and the current state of the FBI.
“and decided, along with his staff, that that would be a good way to get Patel into questioning about Epstein.”
Trump's Document Issues
7:56 to 11:39
Critique of Trump's handling of Epstein documents and implications.
“The reason Donald Trump doesn't want the files released is obvious.”
Transcript
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0:30Michael Popok:Things have gone from bad to worse for Kash Patel, the embattled, beleaguered FBI director. He of all those self-inflicted wounds. You thought yesterday when he was grilled to within an inch of his life by the senators, the Democratic senators like Klobuchar, Schiff, Booker and Blumenthal. Wait till you see what happened during the House committee hearing for the Judiciary Committee about providing oversight to the FBI. and the questions he had to answer to Representative Ted Lieu about the Epstein matter. And wouldn't you know it, Legal AF, Midas Touch's Legal AF, showed up on the giant screen because Ted Lieu used our interview, Sidney Blumenthal and Sean Wilentz, our Court of History, their interview of Michael Wolff, the journalist, about things that he had found and things that he had observed in Jeffrey Epstein's home when he was thinking about doing a biography of Jeffrey Epstein and spoke to him for hundreds of hours, including photos of girls, naked girls, that were laid out like playing cards, according to Michael Wolff, in Jeffrey Epstein's apartment.
1:42Michael Popok:Wasn't there a search warrant? What happened to the safe? What happened to the documents? What happened to the pictures? Those are things that Representative Liu wanted to know, and he used legal AF to get him there. Here's the clip. Dr. Patel, for being here today, the FBI searched Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan residence, correct? I believe that happened in 2018. I think there was two locations, sir. It's 2019, and in that residence, the FBI found a safe, correct? I don't have the catalog of evidence in front of me. In that residence, the FBI found a safe, correct? I'll accept your representation.
2:20And in that safe, the FBI found topless and lewd photographs of girls, correct? Again, sir, I'll accept your representation. I don't know. Thank you. It was all over the media at the time. There's a New York Times article that says Jeffrey Epstein is indicted on sex charges as discovery of nude photos is disclosed. Dated July 8th, 2019. in the Times reports, a trove of loot photographs of girls was discovered in a safe inside financier Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan mansion. Author Michael Wolff has conducted numerous interviews of Jeffrey Epstein. I'm going to play for you a video clip of what Michael Wolff said Epstein told him was in the safe and what he showed the author was in the safe.
3:06So let's please play that clip now. I was sitting talking to Epstein and he said, wait a minute, I got to show you something. And then he went into his safe and he came out with with with with photographs. They were they were Polaroids, I think. And and he kind of kind of they were kind of spread them out like playing cards. And it was Trump. I mean, I think there were a dozen of them. And it was Trump with girls of an uncertain age at Epstein's Palm Beach house, where all of the things that he would ultimately be accused of took place. And I remember very vividly three of them. There are two in which Trump is the girls, topless girls are sitting on Trump's lap.
3:59And then a third in which he has a stain on the front of his pants and the girls are kind of kind of pointing at it, sort of bent over laughing.
4:12Michael Popok:See, sometimes we report on the news and sometimes we help make the news. Obviously, somebody that knew our work, our body of work, and what we do on Midas Touch and Legal AF, and decided, along with his staff, that that would be a good way to get Patel into questioning about Epstein. Now, let's talk about Kash Patel for a minute while we have your attention. Kash Patel is likely not going to survive these hearings. As I said, he's just the master of self-inflicted wounds. When you take what had been the proud history of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and you throw it into the morning trash, the way they've done over the last 10 months, you find yourself here.
4:58Michael Popok:when you get rid of all of your leadership and you fire the varsity and you fire the JV and you're left with no leaders, no one with institutional knowledge. When you take 1 ,500 people out of main FBI headquarters and you scatter them throughout America, including in Huntsville, Alabama, and you let people leave or you fire them, which leaves the FBI vulnerable because it doesn't have the institutional knowledge and doesn't have the leadership, doesn't have the rank, doesn't have the file. Of course, when a disaster or some sort of event happens, like the shooting of one of their own, you're not prepared for it.
5:39Michael Popok:You can't handle the manhunt. You don't want to drop the fork on your lemon chicken at Rayo's restaurant in New York. You don't want to go back to the FBI headquarters and properly quarterback because you've never been an FBI director. You've never been an FBI agent. You've never directed anything. I wouldn't let I wouldn't let Kash Patel run a bath for me, let alone run the Federal Bureau of Investigation. And that's just about what happened a week ago with Charlie Kirk's shooting that he that he couldn't solve. If it wasn't for the mother of the suspect, he wouldn't be in custody today. Does anybody really believe that a Kash Patel led FBI would have captured after a manhunt somebody that didn't want to be caught?
6:24Michael Popok:No way. Then you've got the Epstein scandal, which we just saw a clip from, which doesn't have to be an Epstein scandal. It could just be us talking about all of the documents, the complete Epstein file released by Donald Trump. But Epstein scandal has taken on epic proportions because of the failure of people like Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche and Kash Patel to be able to talk any sense into Donald Trump and release the files. When I bought my first home a long time ago, I'll be honest, I was excited, but I was also a little overwhelmed. Signing those papers, I realized just how much was on the line.
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8:16Michael Popok:Same thing here. That's the adverse inference that we're making. And they're not doing anything to avoid the adverse inference because they're not giving us the documents. Kash Patel actually said during yesterday's hearing that he has not reviewed the entirety or really reviewed the Epstein files at all. Let's take a look at that clip. I want to ask you about the Epstein files. Have you seen the Epstein files? I have not reviewed the entirety of it myself. It is professional malpractice for you to stand in front of Congress, the Senate or the House and tell them at this late date in September when you promised the American people in February that you were going to leave no rock left unturned, that you were going to release every one of the documents.
9:01Michael Popok:You're now in September and you haven't done that. And we know why. We know from other reporting and from admissions by Pam Bondi that she had the FBI and Kash Patel's people in March do a total review of every page and every document. They're even redacting Donald Trump's name. Then by May, she's briefing Donald Trump about what's in the Epstein files. And Kash Patel has the balls to come before Congress and say that he's not reviewed the Epstein files or hasn't been properly briefed on them. That alone, that alone should lead to his firing. But that's not the only things he said. He also said yesterday during the Senate that as far as he's concerned, for the files that he's not reviewed, which makes no sense, total non sequitur.
9:50Michael Popok:I haven't reviewed the files, but for the files I haven't reviewed, there's no indication or no evidence that anyone other than Jeffrey Epstein raped girls. I mean, A, how can he conclude that if he says he hasn't reviewed the Epstein files? You've seen most of the files. Who, if anyone, did Epstein traffic these young women to besides himself? Himself. There is no credible information. None. If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals. And the information we have, again, is limited. So the answer is no one? for the information that we have. In the files?
10:33In the case file.
10:34Michael Popok:Okay. And that's completely against everything that Donald Trump and MAG are saying about Democrats being inside the files and being inside the files for having participated in the child sex trafficking ring.
10:49Michael Popok:So which is it, everybody? But I just, I think it is cosmic justice. that we now have a moment where Midas Dutch and Legal AF have entered the hearing room because we're doing the reporting and providing the information to the congresspeople to do their jobs. And we appreciate them. And they obviously appreciate us. And by extension, our audience. This is the one-year anniversary today. The day that they played the Legal AF clip in Congress to grill Kash Patel is our one-year anniversary. Talk about cosmic justice and the cosmos speaking. We started it one year ago today. And now look what's happened.
11:37Michael Popok:But without the audience, none of this happens. I was talking to Sidney Blumenthal, who along with Sean Willence did that interview that Ted Lieu used just today about it. And he said if it wasn't for Legal AF, he would not have been able to bring on Michael Wolff or have Michael Wolff's video be seen in order for him to testify, if you will, about what he saw in the safe and in the Epstein apartment. And if it wasn't for our audience, we wouldn't have a Legal AF or a Midas Touch. So it all goes back to you. We really appreciate you being here. I'm going to continue to do the reporting that's necessary, come on over to Legal AF Substack and Legal AF YouTube channel, where you will see videos like the one that got used today in Congress.
12:29Michael Popok:We do 10 videos a day, all at the intersection of law and politics. So until my next report, I'm Michael Popak.
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From the publisher
If you thought embattled FBI Director Kash Patel’s grilling to within an inch of his life at the hands of the Senate Democrats was bad, it just got worse for him during his cross-examination by Rep Ted Lieu in the House about the Epstein Coverup Scandal. And a key piece of evidence used by Rep Lieu to grill Patel may look familiar— the Legal AF interview of journalist Michael Wolff and his observations about what he saw in Epstein’s apartment that the FBI should have grabbed during a search warrant execution. Michael Popok reports on his latest hot take.
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