Trump Finally Hit With Nightmare He Feared From New Lawsuit

14 Apr 2026 · 19 min · 5 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that Donald Trump’s administration has dismantled election “guardrails” and replaced career election-protection staff with election-denying allies, citing ProPublica reporting led by Doug Clark. Key claims include: CISA’s election-integrity role has been “mothballed”; National Security Council election security and the Office of National Intelligence’s Foreign Malign Interference Center were eliminated; FBI and DOJ foreign-interference/public-integrity units were removed; DOJ Civil Rights Division leadership (Harmeet Dillon) allegedly shifted away from voting-rights enforcement; and the Civil Rights Division is “weaponized” alongside election-denier prosecutors to pressure states (e.g., Georgia/Fulton County, Arizona).

Notable examples

Cleta Mitchell and the Election Integrity Network; Sky Perryman’s Democracy Forward FOIA/injunction lawsuit targeting communications between DOJ Civil Rights, FBI, and election deniers, plus voter-data access tied to HAVA/Voter Registration/Civil Rights claims.

Guests

Sky Perryman (Democracy Forward; filed the injunction/FOIA suit).

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Chapters

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Team America and Election Denial

1:18 to 3:05

Explore the implications of the election-denying movement within the Trump administration.

“ProPublica just exposed it in a new expose.”

Impact on Election Integrity

3:08 to 5:03

Understand how key agencies have been affected by the Trump administration's changes.

“And then I'll stitch it together with my interview with Sky Perryman about her new lawsuit.”

Gutting the Guardrails of Democracy

5:06 to 8:14

Analyze the elimination of protective measures in the electoral system.

“The National Security Council used to have an election security group in order to make sure that we didn't have foreign interference into our elections, primarily from Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea.”

Sky Perryman's Lawsuit Overview

10:11 to 14:02

Delve into the details of the lawsuit related to voting rights and election integrity.

“That is settled, but not to the Trump world.”

Examining Voter Data Collection Efforts

14:02 to 15:49

Discusses the legal efforts to collect voter data and its implications for elections.

“and they're claiming that they're doing it under the Help America Vote Act, HAVA, or the Voter Registration Act, or the Civil Rights Act.”
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1:15Popok:Remember the name Team America. It sounds innocent, but it's a shadowy organization deep within the Trump administration that's working interagency wise and with the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division to take away your right to vote. ProPublica just exposed it in a new expose. We've been talking on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF for a long time about the fact that Donald Trump swept into power members of the election-denying movement. The election-denying movement. There are at least 24 members of that movement, including lawyers that worked overtime to try to defeat and reverse the outcome of the 2020 election, who are now inside the government in key positions throughout the administration.

2:06Popok:FBI, the Department of National Intelligence, Department of Homeland Security, Department of Justice, and the rest. And Donald Trump has completely destroyed the guardrails that were in place in 2020. 75 people, career lawyers who were responsible for ensuring the integrity of the 2020 election are gone, replaced with these top 24 members of Team America, all as revealed by ProPublica. And I also just did an exclusive interview with Sky Perryman of Democracy Forward about her brand new lawsuit, her injunction lawsuit just filed in order to get to the bottom of the relationship of this conspiracy within the Trump administration at the highest level with the election denying network representatives.

2:59Popok:You're here on Midas Dutch and Legal AF. Take a moment, hit that free subscribe button on Legal AF YouTube channel as well. Let's get down to the ProPublica reporting. And then I'll stitch it together with my interview with Sky Perryman about her new lawsuit. Here's what their reporting reveals led by Doug Clark. 75 people who guarded the vote and the integrity of the election in 2020 are gone. The CISA unit, right? The cyber security and infrastructure security agency that was responsible for the integrity of the 2020 election that was originally created by Donald Trump after 2016 has been mothballed, chloroformed, gone.

3:42Popok:I mean, it's there, but it's doing other things. They've gotten them out of the vote protection business. meaning the main agency that was protecting the vote, has been destroyed by Donald Trump. Now there are 24 people within the Trump administration in key positions, sprinkled throughout, who make up Team America, as ProPublica talked about it, who are election deniers. Ten were active in trying to reverse the vote primarily as lawyers. When we talk about the election denial movement, that one of its leaders among many is Cleta Mitchell. Used to be a partner at Foley and Lardner. I used to work at that law firm a million years ago, but got thrown out of the firm when they found out that she behind the scenes was leading the election denying movement.

4:30Popok:She set up the election integrity network, the EIN. There's chapters in every state, you know, and her goal, Cleta Mitchell's goal is to undermine people's belief in the credibility of our election system for our own purposes. She's also at the heart of the new lawsuit brought by Democracy Forward. Let's talk about what's been gutted, eliminated, fired, or destroyed that used to be part of the guardrail around our election and voting systems to protect them from Donald Trump. The National Security Council used to have an election security group in order to make sure that we didn't have foreign interference into our elections, primarily from Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea.

5:22Popok:That's been eliminated. the Office of National Intelligence led by Tulsi Gabbard, who's busy trying to relitigate whether Donald Trump should have been impeached or not. She just eliminated the Foreign Malign Interference Center as a part of the Office of National Intelligence. You know, National Intelligence is about 14 different agencies, including the CIA, that report to Tulsi Gabbard. They used to have this center, the Foreign Malign Interference Center, which is exactly what it sounds like because we know that Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea and other bad actors have been trying to influence the outcome of the election.

6:03Popok:I'm not talking about collusion. We all have our own opinions about whether Donald Trump benefited from the interference, whether he worked with them, that's another story. Whether he's a Russian asset, that's for another day. But certainly he benefited from the interference. So what do you do when you don't want the world to know whether there's been interference. You get rid of the center that was responsible for making sure there was no foreign interference. Now let's go to the FBI and Kash Patel, an election denier, a Jan 6th supporter. Kash Patel had a unit that he inherited called the public corruption team and a foreign interference task force.

6:51Popok:They're gone too. Right, Because the other units that match them symmetrically in the Office of National Intelligence, in the Department of Justice, have all been eliminated as well. So why not get rid of the Public Corruption Unit, the Foreign Interference Task Force? Because this administration doesn't want to know if there's foreign interference because they think it's in their behalf. The Department of Justice used to have something called the Public Integrity Section. In fact, that's where Jack Smith, the special counsel, came out of. They don't really any longer. Its budget has been cut.

7:26Popok:Its people have been fired. It's been reassigned to do other things not related to elections and voting. Now, within the Department of Justice, even the remaining units that used to protect the vote as part of their mission and mandate in their formation, like the Civil Rights Division, now headed by a leading candidate to be an attorney general for the United States, Harmeet Dillon. she's an election denier and she's taken the civil rights division and with a memo that she issued about seven or eight months ago said oh no the civil rights division is not going to do the mandate of ensuring voting laws are complied with and to ensure that there's integrity in the vote in the elections oh no our primary mission is to execute the executive orders of donald trump the president.

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10:41Popok:That's already been settled. That is settled, but not to the Trump world. So we move forward from there into this election integrity network. Now, I just interviewed Sky Perryman, who brought this complaint for injunctive relief to try to get to the bottom of the relationship between the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division, FBI, and the election denying movement, including Cleta Mitchell, including Mr. Neff, Eric Neff, including other people like the acting voting chief Maureen Riordan. Frankly, they could have gone further in this. But this starts as a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.

11:32Popok:It will end, hopefully, with some sort of major bombshell lawsuit, maybe centered around conspiracy claims. I don't know. But first, you got to get the information. Here's my clip of my interview this week with Sky Perryman. Play the clip. First, we want to find out what is going on. There's a lot of articles. There's a lot of, you know, doom scrolling. You can go on social media. You've done a lot of coverage. It's all good that people are alert and concerned, but we have to understand what this government is doing so that we know how we can fight back in the courts so that people know what they can do to prevent their votes from being taken.

12:10And so we've been on a journey at Democracy Forward to figure that out. And one is with this request that you're highlighting today that we've had to go to court because the administration is not turning over documents that the American people are entitled to see. And what we've really been requesting is we want to understand what communications are coming in and out of the civil rights division. That's the division that Ms. Dillon leads for now. Maybe she'll get to lead the whole Department of Justice. It is a division that has seen, you know, it's been virtually decimated of the career employees.

12:42We have many wonderful civil rights attorneys at Democracy 4 that used to work in that division that feel that they no longer can. And the division is being weaponized. It's supposed to be there to protect people's right to vote, to protect your civil rights. And we've seen this administration really try to weaponize the division against those very things. So we are after. We want the documents. We want the communications. We want to know why the Department of Justice is communicating with people who are known election deniers. We want to know why some of those people are within the government.

13:12And so we served these requests, as we do. We waited the amount of time. And of course, the government did not come forward in a transparent way. That would be how you or I would answer something and say, well, you must be mistaken. Here's all the communications. No, we're not touching your election. That's not what they did. They instead stonewalled. And so when they do that, we go to court. And that's what we filed last week.

13:34Popok:Now, at the bottom of this is you've got this series of misrepresentations to federal courts led by people in Harmeet Dillon's Civil Rights Division and in other places. There is one major database that's being created. Trump refers to it and others as the SAVE database led by the Department of Homeland Security, Social Security, and the Postal Service about your mail-in ballots. On the other hand, And the Civil Rights Division and lawyers that used to work on trying to overturn the 2020 election are going after individual states, 30 of them, including the District of Columbia, to try to obtain our voter data, our sacrosanct voter data.

14:23Popok:and they're claiming that they're doing it under the Help America Vote Act, HAVA, or the Voter Registration Act, or the Civil Rights Act. The only problem with that, none of that gives them the entitlement to just grab voter data and certainly not to then use it to create this, you know, Elon Musk, wet dream, Doge-inspired major database to try to federalize the elections. That's all this is about. Trump trying to federalize and take over the midterm elections and the resistance inside, which is non-existent, and what we can do from the outside. So now the entire resistance has to come from outside because inside has been so corrupted, so hollowed out, so captured by Donald Trump and the election-denying movement that we can't rely on them to protect our vote or the integrity of our elections.

15:20Popok:So we have to do it ourselves. So that starting point is places like Democracy Forward and Sky Perryman filing suits like this about what is the relationship internally. It starts with that knowledge. From there, substantive lawsuits can be filed and we'll continue to follow it right here as we always have from day one, from moment one in our sixth year Midas Touch and Legal AF. I'm Michael Popok. Until my next report. Can't get your fill of Legal AF? Me neither. That's why we formed the Legal AF Substack. Every time we mention something in a hot take, whether it's a court filing or a oral argument, come over to the Substack.

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From the publisher

In breaking news, a new lawsuit has been filed to expose the unholy relationship between the Election Denial Movement, “Team America,” a shadowy group within the Trump Administration, and the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division, as reported by ProPublica. Popok is joined by Democracy Forward’s founder Skye Perryman to discuss her new lawsuit to put all the “liars in one room,” and get to the bottom of the election deniers who are pulling the levers of power for Trump to expose them and ultimately sue to stop them.

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