In short
The episode argues Donald Trump is being publicly rejected and will never win the Nobel Peace Prize. Host Michael Popok claims the Nobel Committee would not award someone he calls a “war criminal” or someone who, in his view, contributes to human suffering (Ukraine deaths, Iran bombing, Gaza civilian harm) and attacks press freedom. Key evidence includes a phone call clip: Kristian Berg-Arkbyken, secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, calls Maria Corina Machado to tell her she will receive the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize. Popok contrasts this with MAGA proposals to award Trump via Congress, saying that’s not how the Nobel works.
Guests
Maria Corina Machado (Venezuelan opposition leader in exile; industrial engineer; election-denying crackdown survivor; barred from running for president; in hiding) is the central figure via the phone call and a CBS interview clip.
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Chapters
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0:17 to 0:27
Discussing Trump's prospects for the Nobel Peace Prize and public perception.
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Trump's Nobel Peace Prize Rejection
2:31 to 3:52
Discussing Trump's prospects for the Nobel Peace Prize and public perception.
“I just spotted something in the aftermath of the news we were all waiting for.”
Emotional Call to Machado
3:54 to 4:30
Analyzing the emotional call made to Maria Corina Machado regarding her Nobel Prize recognition.
“I wanted to give my kind of spin about what just happened as the world continues to reject the America first president, as I said, closer to being a war criminal than he is ever winning the Nobel Peace Prize.”
The Nobel Committee's Values
6:12 to 7:36
Understanding the criteria and values of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.
“And now you've got MAGA congresspeople that are like, I know what I'm going to do.”
Maria Corina Machado's Fight for Peace
10:38 to 11:25
Highlighting Maria Corina Machado's bravery and her fight for peace in Venezuela.
“Maria Karina Machado is my new, I mean, seriously, I'm going to get a giant poster of her and put her in my daughter's bedroom.”
Maduro's Regime and Opposition
11:51 to 14:01
Exploring the current political situation in Venezuela and the opposition's stance.
“The title of former New York Times journalist William Newman's book about Venezuela says it all.”
Trump's Foreign Policy Failures
14:01 to 17:50
Discussing Donald Trump's handling of foreign policy and its consequences.
“The great Venezuelan American community, now he panders to the voters, in the United States support a free Venezuela.”
Trump's Foreign Policy Failures
18:06 to 19:00
Discussing Donald Trump's handling of foreign policy and its consequences.
“So until my next report, I'm Michael Popak.”
Trump's Foreign Policy Failures
19:16 to 20:25
Discussing Donald Trump's handling of foreign policy and its consequences.
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Transcript
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2:31Michael Popok:I just spotted something in the aftermath of the news we were all waiting for. Donald Trump is not going to be winning the Nobel Peace Prize. And now having seen a certain video clip of something that happened today, I believe that Donald Trump will never win the Nobel Peace Prize, at least not in his lifetime. I'll put it that way. I saw a video of the actual call to Maria Corina Machado, the opposition leader in exile, who has been opposing the Maduro dictatorship in Venezuela after she was chased off the streets by the Maduro regime after her party won. and there was election denying the Jan 6 moment in Venezuela, which is another, I think, troll of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.
3:21Michael Popok:We're going to give it to the opposition leader of somebody who actually did something about election denying and the abuse of power. And so the phone call that I caught, when you hear this phone call, you tell me whether you think Donald Trump will ever receive a phone call like this from the Nobel Peace Prize Committee. The emotion that poured out of the guy that made the call, the secretary of the committee. Now picture Donald Trump getting a call from this guy. You're on Midas Touch and Legal AF. I'm Michael Popak. I wanted to give my kind of spin about what just happened as the world continues to reject the America first president, as I said, closer to being a war criminal than he is ever winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
4:07Michael Popok:Thank you for being here. Hit the free subscribe button here and on Legal AF YouTube. All right, let's get to it. Here is the, I bring the receipts. Here is the phone call that was made to Maria Carina Machado. You tell me who's more emotional in the, which side of the telephone receiver is more emotional about the announcement, the recipient or the person telling her that she won. Play the clip.
4:34Hello? Hello. Yes, hello. Yes, am I talking to Maria Corina Machado? Yes, this is Maria Corina. Yes, Maria Corina. My name is Kristian Berg-Arkbyken. I am the secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee in Oslo. And I'm calling to inform you that in a few minutes, it shall be announced here at the Nobel Institute that you will be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2025. Oh my God.
5:23So, the warmest congratulations to you, Maria. Oh my God.
5:33Oh my god, well, I have no words. I, well, thank you so much, but I hope you understand this is a movement, this is a achievement of a whole society. I am just, you know, one person. I certainly do not deserve this. Oh, my God. I think both the movement and you deserve it.
6:09Michael Popok:Now, let's just frame this for a minute. I know MAGA has gone totally crazy. And now you've got MAGA congresspeople that are like, I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to propose a resolution at Congress that the United States award Donald Trump the Nobel Peace Prize. That's not how that works. You want to give him some congressional medal? Go ahead. but you're not going to be awarding him the Nobel Peace Prize. I don't think you understand how the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize works or what Alfred Nobel really envisioned about who would be handing out his award. I, and I'm sure that guy hasn't been, I have been to the Nobel Prize Museum when I was traveling through Scandinavia a few years ago.
6:52Michael Popok:It's an amazing museum. If you're in town, check it out. When you go, you'll realize why Donald Trump's never going to win that award. They like their winners to be not war criminals. They like their winners not to be creating human suffering around the world like in Ukraine. And tens of thousands of people have died, including hundreds of people since the Alaska summit with Putin. They like peacemakers who don't bomb their way to peace by dropping bombs on Iran, which probably did not solve the problem with Israel. They like peacemakers who don't lobby and campaign and have nominations and harangue the committee left, right and center.
7:32Michael Popok:In fact, many of the committee members found that unsavory. But also, Donald Trump has known who heads the committee. The chairperson of the committee is Jorgen Friednes. Jorgen Friednes is the secretary general in his day job of PEN Norway. They, along with all the other PEN, PEN organizations, is protective of freedom of speech, freedom of the press, journalist rights all over the country. He gave an interview in 2024 that I caught that I'll put up on the board in which he effectively said that he's also worried about the crush of First Amendment and freedom of the press and journalists around the world, including in Democratic countries.
8:15Michael Popok:And he pointed to Donald Trump's campaign in 2024, in which he attacked the press 100 times. Well, Mr. Well, Mr. Friedness, I don't know if you've been following the Trump administration since he won, but you can multiply that by 10 times. Donald Trump calls the press, the press, the enemy of the people. He has his his political hack of a press secretary, Caroline Levitt, attack them from the bully pulpit of the press room every day, as does he. You think that guy was going to preside over a committee that was going to give Donald J. Trump suppressor of First Amendment rights the Nobel Peace Prize?
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10:10Michael Popok:That's 10 % off your first bidet order at hellotushy.com with promo code LEGALAF. It's gotten so bad that the judge had to list all of the military weapons that were being used against protesters and journalists on the streets. You'd think Jurgen Friedness was going to hand out that award to Donald J. Trump? I don't think so. Maria Karina Machado is my new, I mean, seriously, I'm going to get a giant poster of her and put her in my daughter's bedroom. Maria Karina Machado is an industrial engineer. She's a brave leader of the opposition. She's been in the streets of Venezuela. When they had their Jan 6th moment and it went dark the way ours could have done, And Maduro declared that he won, even though overwhelmingly he lost.
11:07Michael Popok:And the person that did win had to go to France in exile. Maria Carina Machado is in exile as well, leading the charge. She would have run for president, but they told her she was going to be assassinated and she was going to be arrested if she did. And she has been fighting for peace in Venezuela ever since. a champion, a committed champion of peace. That's what the Peace Prize is supposed to represent. Let me show you a clip of Maria Corina Machado being interviewed a year or so ago by CBS News. Here's a clip of Maria Corina Machado, so you know why you should be honoring her as well. Let's go.
11:51He needed a distraction. It's bread and circuses. The title of former New York Times journalist William Newman's book about Venezuela says it all. Things are never so bad that they can't get worse. Everybody knows that he's lost the election. He's the emperor who has no clothes. He's cracked down. In July, Venezuela, with a history of on-again, off-again democracy, held elections. Maduro claimed he had been re-elected, but in a bold act of defiance, the opposition produced voting machine tallies, proving that this man, Edmundo Gonzalez, had actually won the presidency by better than a two-to-one margin.
12:37Impartial election observers agreed. Move! Move! Move! Maduro called out the military to enforce his election denial. Gonzalez was told, leave the country or else. He turned up in Spain. At least two dozen people were killed and more than 2 ,000 detained in the chaos.
13:14Maria Corina Machado, the face of the opposition, who would have run for president herself if Maduro hadn't barred her, is in hiding. I've been accused of terrorism. The dictatorship has said that they are looking for me and that they want to get me.
13:32Michael Popok:Now, even Donald Trump believes that Maria Karina Machado is a proper candidate because he effectively endorsed her when he sent out a social media tweet after she was arrested. Remember, he was arresting all the opposition leaders. he after she was after she was arrested Trump social media posted peacefully expressing the voices and the will of the Venezuelan people with hundreds of thousands of people demonstrating against the regime that sounds familiar you could just substitute everything that's going on in Portland in Illinois in in DC in New York about Donald Trump and the protest against ICE right So Trump said Machado was peacefully expressing the voices and the will of the Venezuelan people with hundreds of thousands of people demonstrating against the regime.
14:24Michael Popok:Hold that thought. The great Venezuelan American community, now he panders to the voters, in the United States support a free Venezuela. These freedom fighters, meaning Machado, should not be harmed and must stay safe and alive. And I'm sure there was work being done behind the scenes politically, diplomatically, to ensure that she wasn't killed after she was arrested by the Trump administration. So he's a supporter of her. But no, we're not going to allow Donald Trump, you know, this week to claim peace in the Middle East because Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, got off his ass in Miami and went over to Steve Witkoff's house in Miami.
15:07Michael Popok:And they flew to Egypt to try to work it out as a deal. This isn't a land deal. There are humanitarian issues that are still in play. We have violated or we've allowed Israel to violate the Powell Doctrine, which is if you break it, you bought it. They've broken Hamas. They've broken the Palestinian people, including the civilians and the children in that Gazan region, and they need to fix it. and maybe if they do that and all the other components of what is defined as peace in the Middle East, maybe Donald Trump can be considered. I just don't think based on that earlier clip, we're ever going to see him win the award and for good reason.
15:47Michael Popok:You can't bomb your way. Humanitarians suffer your way to the Nobel Peace Prize. How many people are in cemeteries today because of Donald Trump's bungling of his national security policy, of his foreign policy, of his no plan to end the war. How many people have died since day one of Trump's administration in Ukraine after he said he was going to stop the war in Ukraine? Instead, he just emboldened Putin to kill more Ukrainians. Nobel Peace Prize is funny that way. They don't want to reward people that do it that way, right? Right. And so when you have that, the bombing in Iran and Donald and it pissed off the Nobel Prize Committee, I'm sure.
16:31Michael Popok:All the times Donald Trump took credit for solving wars that he did not solve or conflicts that he did not solve. He says there's some sort of tally now. We're up to nine. Well, at least seven of those nine don't know what he's talking about, maybe eight. In fact, we have a clip that we ran on Midas of one of the people in the countries that he claimed he saw joking and laughing and ridiculing Donald Trump. Let's play the clip. You should make an apology. Two plus. Because you didn't congratulate us for the peace deal that President Trump made between Obama and Obama. I am sorry for that. And you worked very hard.
17:14Michael Popok:See, those clips that I showed today don't get you the Nobel Peace Prize ever. I know it sticks in his craw that Jimmy Carter got it and Barack Obama got it only nine months into office. But you can't kill your way to the Nobel Peace Prize. As I've said, I think when this is all said and done, Donald Trump's closer to being a war criminal, indicted war criminal, standing in the Hague than he is, not here in the States because he has criminal immunity, but abroad than he is ever getting the Nobel Peace Prize and I'm glad to report on it. I'm Michael Popok. You're here on the Midas Touch Network.
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Trolling Trump and rejecting him with a pointed message of what a peacemaker really looks like is not beneath the Nobel Peace Prize Committee, as they release the emotional phone call made to the true winner, Maria Corina Machado, the exiled opposition leader of the “election-denying” Jan 6-like coup in Venezuela. Michael Popok brings the receipts with the poignant phone call from the Committee to Ms. Machado, and in that call Popok sees the reason that Trump will NEVER will the prize, as he moves closer to indicted international war criminal than a peace prize recipient.
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