Trump Handed Massive Defeat by Federal Court for Invasion Plan

3 Nov 2025 · 18 min · 6 chapters

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In short

The episode covers a federal court ruling in Oregon blocking the Trump administration’s plan to federalize and deploy state National Guard units to assist federal law enforcement at the Portland ICE facility.

Guest(s)

none mentioned; the host is Michael Popok (Legal AF / Midas Touch Network).

Key claims

Judge Immergut issued a Sunday-night preliminary injunction for four days, citing that President Trump likely misused 10 U.S.C. 12406 (no qualifying “rebellion” and regular forces could execute federal law) and that the actions violated the Tenth Amendment’s equal state sovereignty.

Notable examples

200 Oregon Guard members commandeered; trial testimony that protests between June and September were “generally uneventful” and local police coordinated with federal protective services to manage arrests. The court schedules a permanent injunction by Nov. 7 at 5 p.m. PT.

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Judge Immergut's Ruling Explained

5:20 to 9:09

Exploration of the implications of Judge Immergut's preliminary injunction.

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Judge Immergut's Ruling Explained

9:21 to 9:36

Exploration of the implications of Judge Immergut's preliminary injunction.

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Analysis of the Preliminary Injunction

9:36 to 14:06

Examining the legal arguments surrounding the injunction and its implications.

“Here's what she says in terms of the founding fathers.”

Legal Analysis on Military Deployment

14:06 to 15:43

Discussion on the legality of military involvement in state matters.

“because you have the testimony that federal protective service officers in front of ICE, in coordination with local law enforcement, were able to stop any interference.”

Legal Analysis on Military Deployment

16:51 to 17:31

Discussion on the legality of military involvement in state matters.

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Legal Analysis on Military Deployment

17:35 to 17:50

Discussion on the legality of military involvement in state matters.

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1:46Michael Popok:Well, in breaking news, the Trump administration and Pete Hegseth were just outfoxed by a federal judge in Oregon. We have a late night order by Judge Immergut, the Oregon federal judge presiding over the National Guard issue. This is now her third major issue in the case. And she issued a preliminary injunction that's going to last about four days to give her time to draft her permanent injunction, all against the Trump administration's deployment and taking over of state militia National Guard in Oregon. It relates to Oregon, but it has broader implications as the Supreme Court considers this very thing.

2:23Michael Popok:Judge Immergut, she loves Sunday night, late night orders. This is her second one in the case. And this is one that could have been avoided if the Trump administration had just agreed to the judge's request that they stop the deployment, continued deployment of the National Guard, now that her temporary restraining order had expired, for a week to give her time to review three days. of trial testimony from last week, including 750 exhibits and dozens of witnesses. And the Trump administration said no. And she said, and then I'll read to you from the order. And she said, well, then I'm entering a preliminary injunction against you for the next four days.

3:03Michael Popok:She didn't even extend the temporary restraining order. She took it up a notch to a preliminary injunction on the scale of injunctions and said, fine, you want to make me write an opinion? You're getting it Sunday night, and here it is. And I'm going to cite to the founding fathers and the framers about the dangers of tyranny in a standing army to boot. The foundation of the judge's decision is that the President Trump did not have the ability to invoke a statute called 10 USC 12406 because there was neither a rebellion on the streets of Portland in front of the ICE detention center, nor was he unable to execute law using his regular forces.

3:40Michael Popok:She also found that he violated, the administration violated the 10th Amendment, giving co-equal sovereignty, equal sovereignty to each of the states, blue and red. And that's the basis. This will stay in place for four days. And she already told the parties, by the 7th of November, by 5 p.m. Pacific time, I will issue my permanent injunction. Going up the scale, temporary restraining order is the first level, kind of the first level of injunction after an administrative stay. The elements are all the same for injunctions. It just has to do with time. Temporary restraining order lasts a few days, maybe a week, maybe a month.

4:19Michael Popok:You have to show that you're likely to prevail on the merits. And Oregon and California did. You have to show that you have irreparable harm, meaning you will be harmed in a way that it's unimaginable if the other side's bad conduct isn't stopped. And that was proven. You have to show that you have no money damages. You can't be compensated with money and that the public interest or the balance of equities tips in your favor. After temporary restraining order, which just expired, you move to preliminary injunction, usually after a full hearing. That we just had, three-day full trial of testimony for the judge to hear.

4:57Michael Popok:Normally, that moves right to permanent injunction, which is the final injunction in the case. case is now over. Preliminary injunction is until the case is over. But because the Trump administration wouldn't give the judge the time and loves to attack her, she's, by the way, a Trump appointee, she said, fine, then I'm going to issue the order late on Sunday night and you can live with it for the next four days. I'm Michael Popok. You're on the Midas Touch Network and Legal AF. And let's go over this emergency order and what it means even at the United States Supreme Court and at the Ninth Circuit, because there's lots of moving parts here and spinning plates about the National Guard issue.

5:35Michael Popok:Let me just read to you first from her opinion. She had already issued, before I get there, she had already issued two orders end of September, beginning of October, two different temporary restraining orders. One was to stop the commandeering or takeover of the National Guard because the elements were not present. And the The second was to stop sending in National Guard from other states into Oregon. One of those two appeals, one of those two motions got appealed to the Ninth Circuit. The Ninth Circuit three judge panel, two Trumpers, one Clinton appointee, voted against Imra Gutt, the judge, and blocked her temporary restraining order, but then blocked their order to give a full 29 judges of the Ninth Circuit time to decide whether they were right.

6:26Michael Popok:Eventually, the majority of the 29 judges in the Ninth Circuit decided that the three-judge panel was wrong, that Judge Imbergutt was right, and they're going to rehear the case. While that's going on, that reinstated Judge Imbergutt's two temporary restraining orders, keeping—that's why we haven't been reporting on National Guards clashing with civilians on the streets of Portland because of Judge Imbergutt. She then set a trial, three-day evidentiary trial, which went on last week. That would conclude the case in her rulings. But because the trial had a lot of evidence and then post-trial briefs, you know, written legal argument and other argument proposed by the parties after trial is over, she wants to read it.

7:05Michael Popok:So she told the parties, give me a week. Trump said no. She said, great, I'm going to enter a preliminary injunction. Here we are. Here's what she says on page three. Accordingly, this court determines based on the trial testimony from last week and the exhibits it has reviewed so far that plaintiffs are entitled to a preliminary injunction on their claims that defendants, that's always the Trump administration, federalization and deployment of the National Guard to Oregon violates 10 U.S.C. 12406 about when you can take over a state militia and the Tenth Amendment, which guarantees sovereignty of the states against the federal government.

7:42Michael Popok:This court preliminarily enjoins Defendant Secretary of Defense Hegseth from implementing the September 28th memo federalizing and deploying the Oregon National Guard, the October 5th memo federalizing and deploying the Texas National Guard in Oregon, any other memo he may come up with. And then the court will issue its final opinion on the merits, meaning case over game over Trump, by this Friday, November 7th, by 5 p.m. Pacific time. Never wake up sweaty, freezing, or just plain uncomfortable. The temperature in your bedroom can make or break your sleep. That's why I switched to Miracle Made Sheets.

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9:55Michael Popok:Defendants commandeered these state officers to enforce a federal law enforcement program at the Portland ICE facility in violation of the 10th Amendment. Also, these ordered deployments involve the intrusion of California and Texas National Guardsmen in their capacity as militiamen of those states, which constitutes an injury to Oregon's sovereignty under the Constitution, let alone Oregon's equal sovereignty among the States. You can't be overrun by another state's National Guard. Quoting Shelby County versus Holder, and then she cites the Founding Fathers. There was a widespread fear that a national standing army posed an intolerable threat to individual liberty and to the sovereignty of the separate states, citing Perpich versus Department of Defense from 1990, a Supreme Court case which referred to the sentiments of James Madison, Patrick Henry, and Alexander Hamilton.

10:47Michael Popok:Also citing another case chronicling the provisions of the Constitution that enshrined the state's residuary and invaluable sovereignty. That's what we're talking about here. State's rights as to deference to the president, which is always an issue. You know, the Ninth Circuit got wrapped around its axle recently about how much deference to give to Trump to call a rebellion a rebellion when it's not a rebellion or to call out the troops or any of the facts on the ground. Here's what Judge Immergott, again, a Trump appointee, has to say with that. Applying a great level of deference to the president's determination that a predicate condition exists, this court concludes that the president's invocation of Section 12406 was likely not made in the face of the emergency and directly related to the quelling of disorder and prevention of its continuance.

11:36Michael Popok:Critically, the credible evidence at trial established that following a few days in June, which involved the high watermark of violence outside the immigration building in Portland. The protests outside ICE facility between June and September were generally uneventful with occasional interference to federal personnel and property. Although there was sporadic instances of unlawful behavior, federal law enforcement, along with local law enforcement, were able to manage the situation and arrest and prosecute those responsible for criminal conduct. conduct, citing to trial testimony by the Portland Police Bureau, in which they implemented new guidance and enhanced communications with the federal protective services to assist with protests.

12:18Michael Popok:So the federal officers out in front of ICE coordinating with local police were able to do their job. So not only did you not have the right for the president to send in the armed forces, the regular forces of the military, he didn't also need backup, triple backup in the form of taking over the state national guard that's the argument now on the um she then goes through what's a rebellion and why it's not a rebellion um and all the rest of that she's she's going to keep this preliminary injunction in place until until for four days and then she's going to issue a permanent injunction once and for all could trump appeal this preliminary injunction he might he might try to do that um i don't think he'll be successful because he's got a brick wall in front of him called the Ninth Circuit.

13:03Michael Popok:The Ninth Circuit, the majority of the 29 judges of the Ninth Circuit already sided with Judge Imregut in a prior related ruling on temporary restraining order and are rehearing that case. So I think the earlier appeal is sort of moot because it's now moved on from temporary restraining order to preliminary injunction. I think if Trump's going to file anything, he should file a new emergency injunction to the Ninth Circuit, and then we'll see what the Supremes do. The Supreme Court has asked for further briefing about what regular forces mean, as that term is used in 12406. 12406, you could only take over the National Guard if you have an outside invasion, like Venezuela invaded America or Mexico.

13:47Michael Popok:We don't have that. There's a rebellion. I don't think anybody believes there's a rebellion. You know, people in chicken suits is not a rebellion or naked bicycling through the streets of Portland. Or three, the president, through the use of regular forces, cannot execute the laws, the federal laws. You don't have that because you have the testimony that federal protective service officers in front of ICE, in coordination with local law enforcement, were able to stop any interference. So he doesn't get to roll out the armed forces. He never rolled out the armed forces, which is the military, the army, the Navy, the Marines, and the Coast Guard.

14:26Michael Popok:And therefore, you don't get the call for backup of taking over the state sovereignty National Guard. That is the argument. And that's the argument that's here and the one the Supreme Court has asked for additional briefing on for their case coming out of the Seventh Circuit in Chicago. We'll cover it all. Here's an update this week on Wednesday. Come over to Legal AF YouTube, where we're going to do the live stream of the oral argument, the landmark oral argument about Donald Trump's tariffs and whether even this MAGA 6 on the Supreme Court is going to allow Donald Trump to steal tariff power from Congress.

15:05Michael Popok:Not sure about that, but I'll know better when we all watch that oral argument together. In the meantime, come over to Legal AF Substack, hit the free subscribe button and also consider becoming a paid member of Substack where I post all of these orders and these motions for you to read along with other commentary and analysis. And thank you, thank you for helping us cross the 900 ,000 subscriber barrier on Saturday. It's all because of you. We're on our march for 1 million subs. The bigger we are, the more street cred we have as a legal AF body, ecosystem to get you the interviews you want, to get you the analysis you want, to get you the contributors you want help us there.

15:43Michael Popok:Until my next report, I'm Michael Popak.

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From the publisher

In breaking news, a Trump-appointed Federal Judge issued a late Sunday night emergency Preliminary Injunction continuing to block Trump’s attempts to violate State Sovereignty and federalize and deploy state militia/national guard on the streets of Portland. Michael Popok explains that the Judge will be entering the final Permanent Injunction against The Trump Administration by Friday, but because Trump refused to give her the time to issue her final order, she was forced to enter an emergency preliminary injunction. Popok also explains how this case and its legal arguments may impact the United States Supreme Court's ultimate decision on whether Trump can send federalized troops into Blue States and Cities because he says so.

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