Trump in Total Defeat as Investigation gets Shut Down

19 Mar 2026 · 19 min · 7 chapters

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Episode Title

Trump in Total Defeat as Investigation gets Shut Down

Hosts

  • Ben Meiselas - Founder of MeidasTouch, civil rights lawyer
  • Michael Popok - National trial lawyer strategist
  • Karen Friedman Agnifilo - Former Chief Assistant District Attorney of the Manhattan District Attorney's Office

Episode Overview In this episode, the hosts discuss significant legal developments concerning Donald Trump's attempts to intimidate and prosecute his political rivals. They emphasize the growing resistance within the judiciary, particularly from judges and grand juries, against Trump's unjust legal maneuvers.

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Key Themes and Discussions

Resistance Against Trump’s Legal Tactics

  • Judiciary's Role: Judges, grand juries, and U.S. attorneys are actively resisting Trump's attempts to use the legal system for political retribution.
  • Historic Ruling by Chief Judge Boesberg:
  • Chief Judge of the D.C. Federal Court, Jeb Boesberg, ruled that the Department of Justice (DOJ) could not be trusted in a case against Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. This ruling highlighted the improper use of grand jury subpoenas.

Lack of Trust in DOJ

  • Erosion of Confidence: The episode illustrates a significant decline in trust toward the DOJ, suggesting that judges no longer take the DOJ's claims at face value.
  • Judicial Complimenting of U.S. Attorneys: Some judges are complimenting junior U.S. attorneys for their integrity, indicating a culture shift within the DOJ where some attorneys are resisting unethical directives from leadership.

Specific Cases Discussed

  • Letitia James and James Comey: Multiple unsuccessful attempts to prosecute figures like New York Attorney General Letitia James and former FBI Director James Comey were highlighted, showcasing the unwillingness of grand juries to indict based on inadequate evidence.
  • Political Opponents of Trump: Several political figures (e.g., Adam Schiff, John Brennan) have faced threats of indictment but have been protected by the judicial system.

Political Messaging

  • Video by Members of Congress: A group of six members of Congress created a video urging military personnel to uphold their constitutional duties, highlighting their resistance to illegal orders.

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Conclusion The episode underscores a pivotal moment in the intersection of law and politics, where the judiciary is standing firm against potential abuses of power by the Trump administration. The hosts convey a sense of optimism regarding the integrity of the judicial system and its role in safeguarding democracy against political manipulation.

Call to Action Listeners are encouraged to subscribe to the Legal AF channel for ongoing coverage and analysis of legal developments relating to politics and justice.

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Additional Information

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  • Subscriptions: Listeners are urged to subscribe to Legal AF and other MeidasTouch Network podcasts for comprehensive political and legal content.

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Chapters

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Judicial Resistance against Trump

1:29 to 3:18

An overview of judges and legal actions resisting Donald Trump's political maneuvers.

“solves crime from their couch knows more about forensics than their own job and has trust issues with small town sheriffs.”

Key Legal Figures Opposing Trump

3:18 to 4:16

Discussion of political figures and judges standing against Trump's legal tactics.

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Judge Curry's Decisions

4:16 to 6:10

Examination of Judge Curry's rulings affecting the indictments against Trump opponents.

“They tried two more times to get Letitia James indicted, one in Norfolk, Virginia, one in Richmond, Virginia.”

Congressional Resistance to Trump

6:10 to 7:01

Insights into the actions of Congress members against Trump and the grand jury's responses.

“that the five-year statute of limitations has run, and any judge will find that on its face.”

Judge Boesberg's Role in Investigations

7:01 to 9:19

Discussion of Judge Boesberg's impact on investigations related to Trump and Jerome Powell.

“Similarly, let's move forward to what Judge Boesberg has done.”

Challenges for the Department of Justice

10:41 to 14:00

Analysis of the current state and challenges faced by the DOJ under Trump's influence.

“The American public is fed up with public monies that seem to go into a black hole, especially in D.C., where no one is held accountable.”

Judicial Integrity and DOJ Dynamics

14:00 to 16:10

Learn about the evolving relationship between judges and the Department of Justice.

“No judge takes at face value anything that the Department of Justice says.”
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1:47Michael Popok:with Prime. Judges, chief judges, juries, grand juries, and U.S. attorneys are all part of the resistance against Donald Trump's efforts to indict and prosecute his political rivals or critics. We've got the latest example with chief judge of everything in the D.C. federal court, all grand jury processes is Chief Judge Boesberg. He determined that the Trump administration can't even meet the basic low threshold to have grand jury subpoenas survive, this time against Donald Trump's political critic, not even a critic, political opponent in the Federal Reserve Chairman Jay Powell. It's extraordinary.

2:38Michael Popok:I can't put too fine a point on how extraordinary the chief judge of a district finding that grand jury subpoenas were improperly issued, how extraordinary that is. But let me put it in the context of all of the dozens of cases that Donald Trump's Department of Justice has tried to bring against his political opposites and the results. It's not just chief judges. It's juries. It's grand juries. It's U.S. attorneys working from within. And they're all using whatever tools they have in order to rein in Donald Trump. You're here on the Midas Touch Network and Legal AF. I'm Michael Popok. Take a minute.

3:20Michael Popok:Help Legal AF continue to grow as a YouTube channel. Hit that subscribe button. Let's start with the political opponents of Donald Trump. They didn't choose to be. Donald Trump picked them out for various reasons. New York Attorney General Letitia James, former FBI Director James Comey, six members of Congress, Senate and the House who made a 90-second video to remind the troops, remind the military that they have their own constitutional duty to uphold the Constitution and not follow illegal orders. California Senator Adam Schiff, former director of the CIA, John Brennan. Each one of them has had some judge, jury, grand jury, or U.S.

4:08Michael Popok:attorney bail them out and stand steadfast for the rule of law in our justice system. Let's start with Judge Curry. Judge Curry, out of the Eastern District of Virginia, or sitting by designation there, She determined that the now disgraced resigned out of the Department of Justice Lindsay Halligan was illegally appointed and threw out the indictments of New York Attorney General Letitia James for mortgage fraud, James Comey for lying to Congress. They tried two more times to get Letitia James indicted, one in Norfolk, Virginia, one in Richmond, Virginia. Two separate grand juries said no. In fact, one of the two grand juries wanted to announce and did announce in open court that they refused to indict, based on that evidence, the New York Attorney General.

5:04Michael Popok:We're talking about low bars here, basics of prosecution here, but nobody believes the Department of Justice. In order to get an indictment, you have to show to a grand jury, first of all, you have to bring it properly, that there's probable cause that you will sustain a conviction through appeal. You have to prove to a jury just on the lower standard that you have probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed and convince a jury of that based on the evidence that you present without the defense present. And they're not even able to do that. So that's the Judge Curry, former FBI Director Comey, Letitia James, Attorney General resolution, combination of Judge Curry and grand juries.

5:49Michael Popok:Another grand jury would have to consider whether James Comey can be indicted at all. based on the statute of limitations. They've got about two more months left to try to argue to a federal judge that they're not out of time for lying to Congress. I believe they're out of time that the five-year statute of limitations has run, and any judge will find that on its face. Maybe that's why we're not hearing about another attempt to indict James Comey. Now let's move on to the six members of Congress led by Mark Kelly, Arizona Senator, Elise Slotkin, Michigan Senator, and others. They created a video, Don't Give Up the Ship, reminding fellow members of the military, intelligence community, they swore an oath that cannot follow an illegal order.

6:45Michael Popok:A grand jury was asked by Jeanine Pirro, Donald Trump's political ally in the District of Colombia to bring an indictment against them, and they refused. And now our understanding is that at least Piro's office is not going to go forward with another indictment. That's a victory for our Department of Justice. Similarly, let's move forward to what Judge Boesberg has done. Judge Boesberg has done something extraordinary. He is, first of all, the chief judge over all things D.C., federal court, which includes grand juries. Donald Trump hates him. Donald Trump doesn't like him because back in March and April of last year, Jeb Boesberg started probable cause to find criminal contempt against the Trump administration.

7:34Michael Popok:He started those proceedings, including against Kristi Noem. The Trump administration brought a claim, a judicial misconduct claim against Jeb Bosberg, which was rejected and denied. He is very close to Chief Justice Roberts of the Supreme Court. He was the roommate for Brett Kavanaugh in law school. He was a Republican and Democrat appointee. He's middle of the road and he is not going anywhere. And yet Donald Trump, late on Sunday night, had the following to say in a rambling Truth Social post. the courts treat republicans and me so unfairly always seeming to protect those who should not be protected they are highly politicized cases don't matter the judge does as an example how is this absolutely terrible federal reserve chairman jerome too late pal not even allowed to be investigated for the horrible job he does because there's no crimes so jeb bosberg steps in and this If this happens once a decade, I'd be shocked.

8:40Michael Popok:A chief judge looks at the evidence, the lack of evidence, even at the low level of probable cause, which is to get a search warrant and says it is obvious that the predominant reason was to harass Jerome Powell, not because there's any indication of a crime, and gave the Department of Justice a second bite at the apple, a second opportunity to present to Jeb Boesberg more evidence, even in camera, without showing it to the defense. Just show me, the judge said. And they didn't take him up on the offer because there's no more evidence to provide to show there was any crime committed in Jay Powell overseeing two building renovations of the Federal Reserve complex in Washington.

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11:10Michael Popok:Play the clip. The American public is fed up with public monies that seem to go into a black hole, especially in D.C., where no one is held accountable. One of the age-old tools that all prosecutors have to investigate any crime, including cost overruns, is a grand jury subpoena. Today, however, in Washington, an activist judge has taken that tool away from us. By inserting himself and preventing the grand jury from even obtaining, let alone hearing evidence, he has neutered the grand jury's ability to investigate crime. As a result, Jerome Powell today is now bathed in immunity, preventing my office from investigating the Federal Reserve.

12:13This is wrong and it is without legal authority.

12:19Michael Popok:Now, similarly, because of improper appointment of prosecutors that Donald Trump picks, handpicks to go after his political enemies, a judge in New York, Lorna Schofield, found that the Department of Justice could not investigate Attorney General Letitia James's office, the Attorney General office in New York, as somehow violating civil rights for Donald Trump or others. because she found that John Sarconi, like Alina Habba, like Lindsey Halligan, were improperly, illegally appointed as U.S. attorneys and kicked those subpoenas. So we've got judges, Schofield, Boseburg, Curry. We've got grand juries in D.C., Richmond, and Norfolk, Virginia, and presumably in Miami, in Florida, who are not indicting or refusing to indict based on what the U.S.

13:20Michael Popok:attorney is bringing forward. Now, for most, for 99 % of my 35-year-plus career, the federal government could always be trusted. We even had a doctrine related to it, the doctrine of regularity. They could be trusted. You may not agree with them. You might slap your forehead with your hand on some of their maneuvers, but you didn't doubt their ethics. You didn't doubt their veracity, their candor, their truthfulness, right? When they said that they represented the United States of America, that's gone. That's gone. No judge takes at face value anything that the Department of Justice says. Nothing.

14:07Michael Popok:especially and certainly senior leadership in Washington. Now, what we're watching are judges going out of their way now, and this is in the last several months,

14:20Michael Popok:complimenting assistant U.S. attorneys, the junior lawyers, if they feel that they've been doing their job properly, haven't been lying to the court, haven't been misleading the court, have been prepared in court, understand the law and the facts in court, don't try to deceive the court, are candid with the court to uphold their own oath. They're literally complimenting them in courtrooms, in orders, in opinions, in postings to the docket, the federal docket we can all see. Why are they doing that? To encourage a resistance, a resistance in the form of doing their job. Now, there's also that going on.

14:59Michael Popok:Even though Donald Trump has effectively gotten rid of six or seven thousand people in the Department of Justice, many who have quit rather than violate their oath of office or ethics. There's a group that have stayed in and have refused in certain offices to do the bidding of leadership in Washington. Pam Bondi, Todd Blanche, and all the other deputies in Washington have refused to seek indictments against people who they believe in doing so would violate the Department of Justice manual or the principles of federal prosecution. That seems to be the problem, for instance, in the Southern District of Florida, and why they haven't been able to indict John Brennan, the former CIA director, is because some U.S.

15:48Michael Popok:attorneys, their assistant U.S. attorneys, are standing up against the handpicked MAGA U.S. attorney, Jason Redding Quinones, and basically telling them they're not bringing the indictments. and that may be going on as well for Adam Schiff in California as we're now into month 16 or so, 17 or so of the Trump administration. We'll follow it all right here on Midas Touch. Come over to Legal AF. No outside investors, just need you to hit the subscribe button, help us continue to grow our channel. So until my next report, I'm Michael Popak. Can't get your fill of Legal AF? Me neither. That's why we formed the Legal AF Substack.

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Add Chief Judges of Federal Districts who control all criminal grand juries to the growing list of our justice system stakeholders, along with Grand Juries, juries, and even some assistant US Attorneys, who are refusing to allow Trump to indict his political critics or enemies, just because he wants to punish or embarrass them, or to score cheap political points. At this point, the DOJ can’t even do the most basic thing: Get a grand jury subpoena to survive judicial review. Michael Popok ties together results, in DC, NY, Virginia, Florida and California against the backdrop of the Chief Judge of DC making a historic, once in a lifetime ruling, that the US DOJ cannot be trusted and have brought a criminal prosecution against the Federal Reserve Chair in bad faith to harass him and force him to resign, not because a crime eis likely to have been committed.

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