In short
The episode discusses claims that Donald Trump is connected to Jeffrey Epstein’s files and that media outlets (including the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch’s papers) published a “naughty” card/birthday message involving Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell. It argues Trump wants only limited release (DOJ grand jury transcripts if a judge allows) rather than all evidence, and criticizes Mick Mulvaney’s rationale that any Epstein-file material may be non-damning.
Guests/backgrounds
No specific guest is named in the transcript excerpt. It references prior guest Michael Wolff (journalist who interviewed Epstein in 2014) and mentions Mick Mulvaney appearing on Al Jazeera.
Key claims
Trump and Epstein had a 14–15 year friendship; Trump and Maxwell solicited/used a sexual card; Trump promoted a hoax blaming Epstein’s death on the Clintons; Mulvaney says any file photo isn’t damning; Trump seeks partial file release.
Notable examples
Alleged sketches/“doodles” by Trump; Mar-a-Lago video/photo references; Wolff’s claimed safe/photos; Howard Lutnick buying a nearby Epstein-owned property; Stephen Colbert’s firing tied to a Trump-related settlement.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Response to Epstein Files
0:45 to 2:30
Discussion on Trump's evasive responses regarding his connection to Epstein.
“Mick Mulvaney is on an Al Jazeera show and he says, sure, he's in the Epstein files, but it shouldn't be damning.”
Mick Mulvaney's Al Jazeera Appearance
2:30 to 4:25
Analysis of Mick Mulvaney's comments about Trump and the Epstein files.
“What about the evidence that was presented to the grand jury?”
Trump and Epstein's Friendship
4:25 to 6:40
A look into the long-standing friendship between Trump and Epstein.
“We'll show it here in a B-roll of them at Mar-a-Lago with Donald Trump very excitingly pointing to something.”
Mainstream Media's Role
6:40 to 8:37
Examining how mainstream media approaches the story of Trump and Epstein.
“Then you've got Howard Lutnick, who used to work at Cantor Fitzgerald, where I worked at one time.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Michael Popok:Have we reached the point where we have to go to Al Jazeera for accurate reporting as to whether Donald Trump is in the Epstein files that he's so busy covering up? Now he's gotten caught so crossways with the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch publishing a naughty letter and birthday message that he wrote on behalf of Jazeen Maxwell, Epstein's girlfriend and co-collaborator in his pedophilia ring, that Donald Trump's come out and said, release the files, but not all the files. Just the Department of Justice's grand jury files. Release those transcripts if a judge allows. Now we got to go to Al Jazeera because Donald Trump used to have a chief of staff named Mick Mulvaney.
0:45Michael Popok:Mick Mulvaney is on an Al Jazeera show and he says, sure, he's in the Epstein files, but it shouldn't be damning. It may just be a photo because if it was really damning, the Biden administration would have released it. That's his new rationale. So Mick Mulvaney, who was the chief of staff in 2019 at the height of the Epstein scandal. Right. And he takes the position that, A, he's not supposed to be protecting the president from anything or correcting the president related to comments that Trump was making at the time, trying to put the blame on Epstein's death on the Clinton family. So now Donald Trump says nothing to see here.
1:29Michael Popok:It's all so boring. The details are boring. It's a hoax. It's a hoax that Donald Trump himself promoted in his own social media post. We'll post it here. Related to trying to pin the blame on the Clinton family. See, when you trade in conspiratorial propaganda, it may come back to bite you in the backside. But the fact that Al Jazeera, frankly, is the one I've got to turn to, to get, because that's where a former chief of staff has to go run and hide and tell. Is that a game? Run and hide and tell about Donald Trump that, of course, there's a picture of him in there somewhere. Oh, we think there's a lot more than that, Mick.
2:14Michael Popok:And you notice how Donald Trump, he just glides, elides over a redefinition of all the files. Release all the files. Then he subcategorizes that, redefines it as the grand jury testimony. Oh, sure. What about the evidence that was presented to the grand jury? What about the search warrant? That's what people want. The search warrant results. Remember when you had a search warrant executed against you in Mar-a-Lago? Remember all the files that were bursting at the seams in the bathroom, in the dining room, on the floor, in your personal closet, in your TV room? Remember all those? That's what we want to see.
3:02Michael Popok:We want to see when they got into the safe that Michael Wolff, the journalist who came on our show on Legal AF and talked about, he saw the safe. He saw the photos. He was in the apartment. He interviewed Jeffrey Epstein in 2014 for hours upon hours upon hours. That's what we want to see. But I got to go to, again, talk about mainstream media. Look, I know why people come to Midas Touch and hopefully to Legal AF, right? Because they want the straight story. They don't want to be lied to. They don't want smoke and mirrors or smoke and sunshine up their backside. They want to be told the truth. What do we know so far in this connect the dots, in these data points?
3:45Michael Popok:All right. And these are all facts. This is not open to debate. You can leave whatever comment you want, but these are established, immutable facts. As we used to say, you can have your own opinion, but you can't have your own fact. Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein had a 14, 15 year friendship that broke down over a real estate deal in and around 2014. Till then, they were men about town, whatever that means, chasing women and girls, at least in Jeffrey Epstein's case, all around New York as bachelors, sometimes married in Donald Trump's case. They were each other's wingmen. They partied together.
4:26Michael Popok:That's the phrase the kids use. They partied together. They partied together in New York. They partied together in Miami. There's video that we've shown before. We'll show it here in a B-roll of them at Mar-a-Lago with Donald Trump very excitingly pointing to something. I'm sure it's not the renovations at Mar-a-Lago. I'm sure it's something related to women. And now the Wall Street Journal, of course, comes out with Rupert Murdoch's paper, comes out after vetting, I'm sure, to protect themselves from a suit. They know what came before. They just saw Stephen Colbert get fired for attacking the settlement.
5:00Michael Popok:Paramount and CBS, his former bosses, soon to be former bosses, made with Donald Trump for over$30 million, selling their soul for, well, between$15 and$30 million. And Colbert lost decades of a career as a result. mainstream media independent political commentary is all under attack i think that's why you again come here to midas touch network into legal af so we've got the new wall street journal reporting right that there is a card a body uh naughty sexual card with some drawings on it by donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein, solicited by Maxwell herself. And they published it. And then Donald Trump's world went crazy.
5:50Michael Popok:Donald Trump said, I don't doodle. I don't draw things. I've never drawn anything. Don Jr. said, that's not my father. He doesn't use words like enigma. I love that defense. My father doesn't know that word. And then, of course, the crowdsourcing of counter information then developed, right? Dozens and dozens of sketches made by Donald Trump, doodler in chief and sketcher in chief for auction, not for auction when he's bored on his presidential briefing book. And they're all lined up and we'll show them here in social media posts. And then of course, somebody runs the clip of Donald Trump using the word enigma about it.
6:39Michael Popok:My dad wouldn't have said enigma about Jeffrey Epstein. Now, caution's an enigma to me. I didn't say it.
6:52Caution's an enigma.
6:54Michael Popok:Okay, so that's all going on. With the videos and the photos and the relationships and Donald Trump partying and the photos and everything that Michael Wolff is saying about his interview with Jeffrey Epstein, and all those close relationships and now the party gifts are coming out. Then you've got Howard Lutnick, who used to work at Cantor Fitzgerald, where I worked at one time. Howard Lutnick, turns out that he bought his fancy schmancy, that's a legal term, New York brownstone from Jeffrey Epstein, a trust that was owned by Jeffrey Epstein and the guy that used to own the Limited. and he lived right next door to Jeffrey Epstein's predator pedophilia palace.
7:38Michael Popok:Well, you got that. So there's a lot of vested interest. I don't want to use this phrase. I was going to say skin in the game. Forget it. There's a lot of vested interest and ownership in the Trump administration to bury the Jeffrey Epstein story with Jeffrey Epstein. A story that, as you saw, Donald Trump had no problem trying to promote the story in order to pin it on Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family. Why not? Why not? So you put all of this together. And what do you have? You have Mick Mulvaney, who is the, I think, the first chief of staff, comes in and says, of course, he's in the files.
8:24Michael Popok:So you can stop looking, everybody. Pam Bondi, be prepared, because I have a feeling you're going to find the client list and you're going to find the photos and the pictures along with it. Now, one of the main reasons that this type of story is so relevant to today, the Colbert filing, the firing, me having to get news from Al Jazeera, brings me to a tool that I have to use to prepare for my Legal AF podcasts. and the intersection and all the work I do on Legal AF, the YouTube channel and here on the Midas Touch. And as I prepare for Legal AF, and I try to get to the core facts without bias in reporting from mainstream outlets, it's getting difficult at times.
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11:21Michael Popok:And I want that to be the overarching theme in this particular hot take, getting it right. We scour everything. You know, I've always been a voracious reader. I think that's what makes me the kind of podcaster that I am. You know, I have all the apps. I read The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, HuffPo, The Guardian, Al Jazeera. I mean, we get it from everywhere. But it's getting harder. to sift through it and to spend the time to do it in order to do the real-time type of reporting and commentary that we do here on the Midas Touch Network on Illegal AF. While you're here, hit the free subscribe button for the Midas Touch Network.
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From the publisher
Trump’s inner circle and former chief of staff got banished to Al Jazeera to tell the world that Trump is definitely IN the Epstein pedophile crime files. , and that he didn’t think it was his place to tell Trump to not blame hillary for killing epstein, before trump now says it was a hoax. At the very same time, as Popok reports, Trump falsely claims he didn’t send Epstein a x rated birthday card featuring one of his custom made inappropriate doodles as reported in the WSJ, but now calls for a small subclass of Epstein files to be released (hint: not the photos and physical evidence!
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