Trump Panics as He's Finally Forced to Pay

8 Jul 2026 · 14 min · 4 chapters

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In short

The episode focuses on a legal update in E. Jean Carroll’s federal case against Donald Trump.

Guest backgrounds

the host is Michael Popak (Midas Touch Network/Legal AF).

Key claims

Judge Lewis Kaplan ordered the court clerk to disperse about $5.78 million (including principal and post-judgment interest) from Trump’s cash bond to Carroll’s lawyers after the U.S. Supreme Court dismissed Trump’s cert petition 9-0 and denied rehearing efforts.

Notable examples

Carroll’s 1996 acquaintance with Trump; the jury finding that Trump sex-abused her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room; supporting testimony from Natasha Stoynoff and “Ms. Leeds”; and the Access Hollywood “grab them” tape. The episode also notes Trump’s team filed a notice of appeal and sought a stay, but Kaplan denied a late opposition motion.

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Judge Orders Payment to E. Jean Carroll

0:31 to 1:43

Analyzing the ruling in favor of E. Jean Carroll against Trump.

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Judge Orders Payment to E. Jean Carroll

1:57 to 4:22

Analyzing the ruling in favor of E. Jean Carroll against Trump.

“That$5 ,779 ,783 has been sitting running with interest as a cash bond posted by Trump.”

Donald Trump’s Legal Challenges

4:22 to 7:03

Discussing Trump's appeal and the surrounding legal implications.

“Jean Carroll, formerly of Elle Magazine, was an acquaintance of Donald Trump in 1996.”

Trump's Arguments and Potential Outcomes

7:03 to 12:06

Exploring Trump's legal arguments and the likelihood of outcomes.

“It's believing in the Easter bunny and golden unicorns in your backyard.”
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1:56Michael Popok:We got breaking news in the E. Jean Carroll case, two-barreled. One, Judge Kaplan has ruled in her favor and has ordered the clerk of the court to disperse more than$5 ,700 ,000 that she's owed from having beaten Donald Trump by proving that he sex-abused her, defamed her, and the jury awarded putative damages on top of it. That$5 ,779 ,783 has been sitting running with interest as a cash bond posted by Trump. That has to do with one of two cases that E. Jean Carroll, the sex abuse survivor, obtained off of Donald Trump. The second one was for$83.5 million, and that one is still kicking around at the United States Supreme Court.

2:47Michael Popok:But because about a week and a half ago, So the United States Supreme Court, without opposition, not even the MAGA Supreme Court justices ruled in Donald Trump's favor to block the payment of the judgment or to grant the appeal. In fact, they dismissed the petition without objection, without dissent. And based on that and a prior order by Judge Lewis Kaplan, that is time for Trump to pay up. and he just issued his order, ordering that the clerk disperse the money. I have that copy. Moments after that, Donald Trump using Alina Haba's old law firm, yeah, it still exists apparently, run now by Michael Medayo, filed their notice of appeal arguing, but judge, we have a petition for rehearing with the United States Supreme Court.

3:41Michael Popok:Again, a U.S. Supreme Court that ruled 9-0 against him. After considering the petition 13 times during conferences, they finally dismissed the appeal. And he thinks, but I have a petition for rehearing. They just decided against you 9-0. You're not going to win that petition for rehearing. And that shouldn't delay anything. The judge, Judge Kaplan, knowing about the petition for rehearing said, that's not one of the grounds. Final and conclusive ruling and a petition being denied is enough. and that is that new ruling. That's the top line of the ruling. I'll dive in deeper here on the Midas Touch Network and Legal AF.

4:20Michael Popok:Let's get down to it. E. Jean Carroll, formerly of Elle Magazine, was an acquaintance of Donald Trump in 1996. She proved to a jury of her peers, 9-0 federal court in New York a couple of years ago, that she was sexually assaulted and abused by Donald Trump in a dressing room in a department store called Bergdorf Goodman's, the women's department store, diagonally across from Trump Tower. She bumped into Donald Trump at the revolving door, made some playful banter. By the end of that afternoon, she was pushed up in a dressing room and she was sexually abused, period. Beyond that, other witnesses testified in that first trial about them being sexually abused by Donald Trump in and around the same time, including Natasha Stoynoff, who worked for People Magazine, who said she was sexually attacked by Donald Trump, while she was there doing a puff piece about his new marriage to Melania Trump at Mar-a-Lago.

5:17Michael Popok:And we also had Ms. Leeds, who testified that she was upgraded to first class, sat next to a guy she didn't know but learned was Donald Trump, and he sexually abused her as well. That, along with the Access Hollywood tape, in which Donald Trump claimed that he could grab a woman by her genitalia and get away with it, all went into the jury. A number of appeals happened about the defamation that happened after Donald Trump was no longer president when he attacked E. Jean Carroll and said, oh, well, she's not my type. Okay. He didn't testify in the first trial. Jury returns a verdict,$5 million.

5:56Michael Popok:Trump has to put up a cash bond out of his pocket to bond out, or he'd have to pay it immediately while he pursued his appeal. The appeal bounced around to the Second Circuit. There were arguments made about all sorts of evidence that they didn't like that Judge Kaplan let in. It was eventually rejected by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. And then he filed his petition at the United States Supreme Court when he became president of the United States again. Thirteen times the U.S. Supreme Court considered that petition. They couldn't get four votes to pull up that petition as a real appeal in any of the 13 conferences.

6:35Michael Popok:And finally, they found five votes without dissent, not even Clarence Thomas, not even Alito to support him, not even the two guys on the United States Supreme Court who have been accused of sexual abuse or assault or harassment in their own lifetimes, like Clarence Thomas and Kavanaugh. Not even they voted for Donald Trump. So Donald Trump's magical thinking that his new petition for reconsideration is going to result in him not having to pay the money is exactly what I just said it is. It's believing in the Easter bunny and golden unicorns in your backyard. Here's what the judge just ruled.

7:36Michael Popok:in the sum of$5 ,550 ,000 that had kind of interest baked in pursuant to that order. Whereas the stipulation and order provided that the clerk shall deduct from the income any fee that she's allowed to collect, whereas the stipulation and order provided that after the latest of a mandate issued by the Second Circuit in connection with an appeal, a denial of a timely filed petition for writ of cert to the Supreme Court, if any, or upon the Supreme Court's granting of cert and an order in favor of the plaintiff, plaintiff may collect any monies owed by defendant. So we've had it. A timely, a denial of a timely filed petition for writ of cert has happened.

8:22Michael Popok:That he's filed a motion for rehearing after having just lost 9-0 is of no moment. Whereas on June 28, 2023, Joe Tacopina's firm deposited$5.55 million into the court registry investment system. So that happened. And whereas on June 29, 2026, the Supreme Court, the entirety of it, denied defendant's petition for writ of certiorari for the appeal. Now, therefore, it is ordered. The clerk is respectfully directed to disperse from the court registry investment system, the value of the principal judgment,$5 million, to Kaplan Martin, Robbie Kaplan, the lawyer for E. Jean Carroll. And the clerk is further directed to disperse the value of post-judgment interest as computed.

9:15Michael Popok:Trump says in his appeal, or in his filings that that number is now up to$5 ,779 ,783. You know, he has to keep adding interest into it. On the 83 and a half million, he's had to pay in more than$7 million in interest. That is now sitting at a$9 million bond in her favor. Immediately upon the judge's order, they filed a notice of appeal with the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in order to stop the disbursement of the funds. They're going to have to now seek a stay from the Second Circuit. This is a fast-moving story. Come back here to Legal AF and on my sub-stack, I'll keep you posted on it. And I just think it's very interesting that the law firm here that has filed the Second Circuit appeal is Alina Haba's old firm, the one that I think she got kicked out of, run now by Michael Medayo in Bedminster, New Jersey, right by the Bedminster Trump golf course.

10:16Michael Popok:So we got that going on. Now, Trump tried to stop all of this with a filing late yesterday. An opposition to the plaintiff's motion for an order came in late yesterday. Judge took 24 hours to deny it. They say that effectively they have a live condition because they've asked for a motion for reconsideration. They completely ignore the fact that not one of the judges or justices of the Supreme Court indicated that they would have ruled in a different way. And nor have they set up a briefing schedule for the petition. They don't seem to be interested at all. They also say that Trump, page two, Trump faces unrecoverable loss.

10:58Michael Popok:Plaintiff has repeatedly stated that she intends to give away all the funds that she's collected from him. And once those funds are distributed to third parties, they can't be recovered. Oh, there you go. So they're worried that the whole$5 million, well, not all the$5 million, some of it's going to go to Robbie Kaplan for having tried this case for three and a half years. But I love the fact that they're like, no, but she's going to give away all of her money. Exactly. We've been saying that the entire time. And then they go through all of their other arguments about why the status quo should be preserved and the judge should enter to stay to allow them time to go seek the Second Circuit appeal.

11:39Michael Popok:For the foregoing reasons, plaintiff's motion should be denied. If the court does not grant the motion, the President Trump respectfully requests that the court enter a stay pending appeal. And I haven't seen any stay pending appeal. In fact, he has said that the disbursement happened now. It's up to the Second Circuit to step in if they're going to at all. We'll cover it. You're on Legal AF. You're on Midas Touch Network. Take a minute. Hit the free subscribe button for both. Until my next report, I'm Michael Popak. Popak here. When life changes in an instant because of an injury or the bad acts of another, you need fighters in your corner.

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From the publisher

In breaking news, a federal judge ruling in favor of Trump sex abuse survivor E Jean Carroll has ordered the Clerk of the Court to immediately disburse Trump’s cash bond posted on his appeal of the jury’s sex abuse, defamation and punitive damages judgment, totaling $5,779,783 dollars, as Trump files an immediate desperate appeal to to try block it! Popok reports on Trump’s weak arguments and that E Jean and her lawyers should be just moments away from collecting on this judgment, on their way to collecting over $90 million against Trump on their second judgment.

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