Trump Secret Deal with Ghislaine Surfaces

8 Aug 2025 · 15 min · 3 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that Donald Trump is moving toward a pardon/immunity deal for convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, framed as a “slow motion pardon.”

Key claims

Maxwell filed that she’s alive and portrays herself as a victim; the host says she participated in sexual abuse and exploitation, so she’s not a victim. The host highlights reporting that DOJ official Todd Blanche (Trump’s “favorite” criminal defense lawyer) will release nine hours of audio/video from depositions he took of Maxwell, allegedly only because she will exonerate Trump. Backgrounds mentioned: Blanche and Maxwell’s lawyer David Oscar Marcus have prior ties via Marcus’s podcast; Alan Dershowitz previously represented Epstein and brought in Marcus.

Notable examples

Maxwell’s transfer from a minimum-security Florida prison to a low-security Texas camp; the host’s prediction of what Maxwell will say (Trump never went to the island; no Trump sexual abuse; Trump didn’t know).

Guests

none named as interview guests; the host is Michael Popok.

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Chapters

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Trump's Connection to Ghislaine Maxwell

0:27 to 4:52

Exploring the implications of Trump's alleged pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell.

“We're just watching a slow motion pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell.”

Legal Strategies and Implications

4:52 to 9:42

Analyzing the legal maneuvers surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell's case and Trump's potential immunity.

“But no, now suddenly they're going to release them.”

Final Thoughts on Maxwell and Trump

9:42 to 12:37

Concluding remarks on the ongoing legal battles and public perception of Maxwell.

“It wasn't that he wasn't guilty of the crimes of election interference, of espionage and obstruction at Mar-a-Lago.”
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0:26Michael Popok:Can I just start this hot take with the way I'm going to end it? We're just watching a slow motion pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell. We're just watching a slow motion pardon of a child sex trafficker by Donald Trump and a judge sex offender. That's what we're watching. So all the data points I'm going to give you on this hot take all lead inexorably to that conclusion. I've been warning it. I've been talking about it. I've been saying the bridge is out ahead. And now we've got the brand new data points. What am I talking about? A couple of things. Of course, we got the new filing by Ghislaine Maxwell, which is, I'm alive and Epstein's dead and I'm the victim.

1:03Michael Popok:I'll talk about that in a minute, Ben. Just did a nice video about it. But I'm going to focus on the new reporting, just as I expected, that Todd Blanche, Donald Trump's favorite criminal defense lawyer and number two in the Department of Justice, is going to be releasing the audio and videotapes of the nine hours of depositions that he took of Ghislaine Maxwell. well, when he went to a prison, first time in history that a Department of Justice leader went to a prison to take the deposition or statement of a convicted child sex offender. I'm Michael Popak. I'm offended. You're on Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF.

1:42Michael Popok:Take a moment, subscribe to Legal AF YouTube channel and to the Midas Touch channel. Okay. I said at the time that he, this whole kabuki theater, pitch and catch, whatever you want to call it, between Todd Blanche and his buddy, David Oscar Marcus, the lawyer for Ghislaine Maxwell, and their relationship goes back several years. He appeared on David Oscar Marcus's podcast. Nobody watches it. I did giggling and laughing their way through their podcast. So here's how it went. Maxwell called Oscar Marcus, who was brought into the case by Dershowitz. Right. Dershowitz, the Harvard law professor, represented Epstein at the time.

2:26Michael Popok:Alan Dershowitz brings in his mentee. He was the mentor for him at Harvard. David Oscar Marcus, smart lawyer down in Miami, takes the case, handles now Ghislaine Maxwell on her appeal. Blanche needs Maxwell to bail out Donald Trump and exonerate him. I mean, things are pretty are pretty sad state for Donald Trump. when he's looking for a convicted child sex offender to exonerate him. Think about that. And she's not a victim. I want to clear the air on that once and for all. I know David Oscar Marcus and his new filing with the judge, Judge Engelmeyer up in New York, where she doesn't want the transcripts, the grand jury transcripts to be released.

3:09Michael Popok:Of course, because they undermine and undercut her argument that she's a victim. She was convicted not just of being a conspirator with Jeffrey Epstein. She was convicted of participating in the sexual abuse of women and girls. Did you hear that? She's not a voyeur. She didn't arrange it and walk away. She participated in it. So that's why she doesn't want the grand jury testimony of the FBI agent and the task force agent who testified to the grand jury about the victims. She doesn't want that out now while she's busy trying to build her case in the public and trying to convince Donald Trump to make her to give her a pardon and reward her.

3:49Michael Popok:She can't have the truth come out at this moment. So there's that. Now we have right on cue 10 days or so later. Todd Blanche says, I'm going to release this is the inside reporting. I'm going to release the tapes, the audio and video of me meeting with a convicted sex trafficker. Okay. There's only one reason he would be releasing it. It's because she played ball and she exonerated or tried to exonerate Donald Trump. Again, a child sex trafficker exonerating a sex offender. Proverse. And she's going to dump on everybody on these tapes, not named Donald Trump, and all sorts of names and all sorts of things.

4:31Michael Popok:and everybody that participated in that depraved criminal lifestyle of abusing girls needs to be worried right now, I assure you. But that's the only reason they're releasing it. If these were crappy audios and testimony in favor or against Donald Trump, where she crapped on Donald Trump, we would never hear from him. They would be talking about protecting the victims, protecting the witnesses, protecting, protecting, protecting. But no, now suddenly they're going to release them. We're watching the slow motion pardon process. He already agreed, once he crossed the Rubicon, I'm talking about Trump, and agreed to give a pardon, I mean, sorry, an immunity, a proffer immunity, queen for the day to Maxwell.

5:13Michael Popok:Once he crossed that, it's an easy hop, skip and a jump to Pardonville. And here's how it's going to work. She played ball. She blessed Donald Trump. The files will never see the light of day. Maybe Congress will get them out through the subpoena to the Department of Justice. Donald Trump hopes not. The appeal will sit up with the United States Supreme Court because MAGA will help out Donald Trump by dragging their feet, giving him enough time politically to maneuver. You see where this is going? And then after all that happens, and she's already gotten partially paid. She's already gotten partially paid for lying for Donald Trump.

5:53Michael Popok:because she got moved from a minimum security prison, a crappy one in Florida, to a low security camp in Texas, which pissed off even the other D-listers and, you know, like the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and Elizabeth Holmes from Theranos who were housed in the same place. So she got an upgrade to a posh federal penitentiary, the lowest level of security, which never happens in the history of the Bureau of Prisons. I defy anyone in the Bureau of Prisons to tell me when a convicted sex offender was given this type of luxury treatment. Never happened. We're moving closer, inch by inch, day by day, to the pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell, former best friend of Donald Trump.

6:46Michael Popok:That's what we're watching. and if anybody out there thinks they're releasing these first of all question is this would be ironic right are these going to be edited or unedited they made a big deal out of 60 minutes clipping a few words out of kamala harris's response to bill whitaker are they going to edit these are we going to get nine nine straight hours without editing wait if they release them wait till the public gets their hands on them and runs them through whatever software is out there to figure out whether they've been edited or not. There's a whole scandal about whether Epstein's video of the door of his cell was edited or not.

7:22Michael Popok:So that's the first question. And if they're edited, oh, look out. That's not going to stop the conspiracy theorists. It's only going to fuel them. If they're not, either way, it's because she said, no, Donald Trump never went. Let me tell you what she's going to say. Let me do the spoiler alert. She's going to say, Donald Trump never went to the island. she never saw Donald Trump with young women. She never saw Donald Trump with young women on the plane between Palm Beach and New York with Jeffrey Epstein. She never saw anything about Donald Trump sexually attacking, molesting other women. She never heard that.

8:03Michael Popok:She never knew that. Then she's going to dump on Epstein. She's going to say that Donald Trump didn't know that he was a sex predator, that that was a dark part of his life that was kept from other people. You see where this is going? And then she's going to spend the rest of the time saying that she was somehow innocent, which is remarkable because she doesn't even say she was innocent in her filing with the United States Supreme Court where you think it would matter. This episode is brought to you by IQ Bar, our exclusive snack sponsor. IQ Bar is the better for you plant protein based snack made with brain boosting nutrients to refuel, nourish and satisfy hunger without the sugar crash.

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10:01Michael Popok:It's that he had immunity, and she's playing the same card. She got a fair trial in front of a jury. She was convicted 9-0, federal jury, and she's not claiming that anything was wrong with the trial. Well, she was convicted, just to round out this hot take, of participating in the sexual abuse and exploitation of girls and women, where she physically participated. Don't let anybody fool you that she is a victim. I don't care how she comes off on that video. I don't care how she comes off on that audio. She's not to be pitied. somebody sent me a banner one of our contributors sent me a banner that he saw on la freeway that said release the epstein files not pedophiles i agree with that i agree with that and we shouldn't even be the fact that we're talking about a president of the united states giving immunity and queen for the day status and giving her a cushy uh prison in return for her testimony you know good girl good girl here's your treat she should rot in prison for the entirety of her 20-year sentence and that's the end of it so until my next hot take i'm glad you're here on Midas Touch and Legal AF follow me on all things Legal AF co-founder of the Legal AF podcast and the Midas Touch network co-founder curator of the Legal AF YouTube channel Legal AF MTN and of the Legal AF Substack I work for you every day 14-15 videos a week at the intersection of law and politics here on the Midas Touch Network.

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From the publisher

We are watching the slow motion pardon of a convicted child sex trafficker by an adjudged sex abuser, as Trump looks to be “absolved” through the video and audio testimony of Ghislaine Maxwell. Things are going pretty poorly for you when you need a child sex trafficker to vouch for you, and Michael Popok examines the new reporting that the DOJ is about to release the Maxwell Interview Audio and Video files, instead of the Epstein Files.

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