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Legal AF Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title
Trump Secret Meetings to Take Over Media Revealed
Podcast Overview The Legal AF podcast, hosted by Ben Meiselas, Michael Popok, and Karen Friedman Agnifilo, provides in-depth legal analysis of current events, particularly at the intersection of law and politics. This episode focuses on Donald Trump's alleged secret meetings concerning the acquisition of CNN by associates of his.
Key Topics Discussed
- Trump's Secret Meetings:
- Donald Trump is reportedly conducting covert meetings aimed at facilitating the acquisition of CNN by the Ellison family, who have ties to Trump and own Oracle.
- Trump’s involvement raises concerns about his influence over media ownership and regulatory processes.
- Firing of Antitrust Head:
- Trump fired Abigail Slater, the head of the antitrust division of the Department of Justice. This move is seen as a strategic attempt to remove obstacles for the deal.
- Popok emphasizes her position as a barrier that could have prevented the acquisition from going through.
- Warner Brothers & CNN Sale Dynamics:
- The podcast discusses the competitive bids for Warner Brothers and CNN, highlighting Netflix's superior offer versus the bid from Paramount, backed by the Ellison family.
- The discussion emphasizes the implications of these acquisitions on media ownership and political influence.
Major Points of Analysis
- Media Manipulation:
- Trump is portrayed as trying to manipulate media to align more closely with right-wing ideologies, akin to Fox News.
- The episode suggests that Trump’s actions are driven by a desire to control the narrative and media landscape.
- Market Share and Antitrust Concerns:
- There is a discussion on market share and antitrust regulations, highlighting the complexities involved in mergers and acquisitions in the media industry.
- The podcast suggests that Trump's involvement contradicts his public stance of remaining uninvolved in the regulatory decisions.
- Importance of Media in Politics:
- Popok argues that Trump's efforts to acquire CNN reflect a broader strategy to dominate media narratives, particularly as public consumption habits shift towards platforms like YouTube.
- The episode notes that a significant portion of the population relies on alternative media sources, which Trump may feel he needs to counteract.
Conclusion
- The episode ends with a call to action for listeners to stay informed and engaged with the ongoing developments surrounding media acquisitions and their implications for democracy and freedom of the press.
- The hosts emphasize the need for scrutiny of Trump's maneuvers in manipulating media ownership for political gain, suggesting that this could have long-term impacts on public discourse.
Additional Resources
- Americans United: Learn more about the organization fighting for constitutional freedoms at [au.org/legalaf](https://au.org/legalaf).
- Subscribe: Listeners are encouraged to subscribe to Legal AF and other podcasts within the MeidasTouch Network for ongoing updates and analysis.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Secret Media Meetings
2:24 to 3:42
Learn about Trump's clandestine meetings to influence media acquisitions.
“And what did Donald Trump do to grease the skids, to put CNN in the hands of a buddy of his, to make it MAGA-friendly?”
The Battle for CNN and Warner Brothers
3:42 to 4:38
Understand the dynamics of Trump trying to acquire CNN through allies.
“He's used a combination of working behind the scenes, putting his big fat thumb on the scale, manipulating the regulators that he controls, and then finding ways to have these transactions happen.”
Trump's Influence on Media Deals
4:38 to 6:12
Examine Trump's manipulation of media acquisitions for political gain.
“in semiconductors, computer chips, et cetera.”
The Antitrust Implications
6:12 to 8:16
Discuss Trump's comments on antitrust and media market share.
“of its competitors, or it would be bad, not for Donald Trump, but usually bad for consumers.”
The Role of Abigail Slater
8:16 to 9:34
Learn about Abigail Slater's role in the DOJ and her dismissal.
“And the other company is saying something else about, you know, they're not going to.”
Dealmaking in Trump's Administration
9:41 to 13:05
Explore how Trump's administration facilitated corporate media deals.
“And what happened just, I don't know, 48 hours later or so?”
Transcript
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2:23Michael Popok:After telling the American people that he was going to stay out of it, related to his friends trying to acquire CNN and its parent company, Warner Brothers Discovery, Donald Trump has been secretly meeting with David Ellison, the Nepo baby son of the Ellison family, who owns Oracle, to try to not only advise on how to acquire CNN and Warner Brothers in their fight against Netflix, who wants to acquire the same assets, but is also, of course, in control of the major governmental regulator at the Department of Justice. And what did Donald Trump do to grease the skids, to put CNN in the hands of a buddy of his, to make it MAGA-friendly?
3:08Michael Popok:He fired the head of the anti-trust division, Abigail Slater. I'm Michael Popok. Let's talk about secret meetings. Let's talk about the firing of the one person who would have been the safety valve against this transaction. And now the new reporting today that, oh, lo and behold, Warner Brothers is back in discussions with Donald Trump's favorite acquirer, the Ellison family, and is starting to turn its back against Netflix that put in the better offer. I'm Michael Popak. You're on Legal AF and Midas Touch Network. Let's get down to this new story on this holiday Monday. All right. From the perspective of media properties that are in play, CNN had always been considered at one point a crown jewel of the media empire, and Donald Trump has wanted to get CNN over to the right right wing to join Fox, CBS, 60 Minutes, The Washington Post, ABC and everybody else that he's abused.
4:12Michael Popok:He's used a combination of working behind the scenes, putting his big fat thumb on the scale, manipulating the regulators that he controls, and then finding ways to have these transactions happen. We see Donald Trump, the dealmaker, right? He already has American taxpayer dollars invested in half a dozen companies. Yes, you and I own a stake in half a dozen companies, in the raw rare earth minerals business, in steel, in semiconductors, computer chips, et cetera. Now, Donald Trump also is trying to get media to be pro-Trump. He's abused the Washington Post, I mean, willingly. Bezos owns it. And Bezos is busy giving a Melania$40 million for a documentary nobody wants to watch and then fires half of his newsroom almost in the same week.
5:07Michael Popok:Now let's turn to Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers Discovery owns a lot of space on your cable box or however you get your content, including CNN. Now Netflix came forward first to try to acquire and put together a superior bid at about$30 a share, saying they would take the Hollywood studio, the movie studio of Warner Brothers and the streaming service, but they wouldn't take CNN and allow Warner Brothers to sell CNN separately. That was for$30 a share. Then came forward Paramount, run by the Ellison family, friends of Donald Trump, to acquire the entirety of Warner Brothers discovery, including CNN.
5:52Michael Popok:That's the one that Donald Trump wants. In fact, when he was asked Trump during, I think, a Lincoln, during a Kennedy Center event, I refuse to call it the other name, he was asked about the acquisition. And while he praised Netflix as being a really great company, he starts talking about market share, which is a monopoly antitrust concept that a company can't acquire too many other of its competitors, or it would be bad, not for Donald Trump, but usually bad for consumers. That's something that's regulated by the antitrust department of the Department of Justice, which at that moment, when Donald Trump said this next thing, was headed by Abigail Slater for the last 10 or 11 months.
6:35Michael Popok:Play the clip of Donald Trump.
6:36MeidasTouch:Should they be allowed to buy Warner Brothers? Should Netflix? Well, that's a question. They have a very big market share. And when they have Warner Brothers, you know, that share goes up a lot. So I don't know. that's going to be for some economists to tell. And also, and I'll be involved in that decision, too. But they have a very big market share. Did he make any guarantees to you about the merger if they do merge? No, no, no. He came up. He was in the Oval Office last week. I have a lot of respect for him. He's a great, he's a great person. But he's done one of the greatest jobs in the history of movies and other things.
7:11MeidasTouch:He's got a lot of interesting things happening aside from what you're talking about. But it is a big market here. There's no question about it. It could be a problem.
7:20Michael Popok:That led to a firestorm of protests. So Donald Trump decided to do it another way. Right. He's been guiding as an advisor, David Ellison, who's been meeting regularly in the last week with Donald Trump himself. Then he announced Trump that he's going to get out of the business of being involved with the Warner Brothers deal. Does anybody believe this? Play the clip.
7:44MeidasTouch:You are close with the Ellisons who are trying to stop a merger between Warner Brothers, Discovery and Netflix. This deal could change the makeup of the media as we know it. Are you personally going to get involved in that deal? I haven't been involved. I must say, I guess I'm considered to be a very strong president. I've been called by both sides. It's the two sides. But I've decided I shouldn't be involved. The Justice Department will handle it. OK, in what way? Just looking at it, see if it's right. You make a decision. I mean, there's a theory that one of the companies is too big and it shouldn't be allowed to do it.
8:17MeidasTouch:And the other company is saying something else about, you know, they're not going to. But you're not going to interfere, even though you're close with each other and there'll be a winner.
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9:41Michael Popok:Learn more at au.org slash legal AF. And what happened just, I don't know, 48 hours later or so? He fired the only person in the Department of Justice with the balls to stop the transaction, Abigail Slater. Dealmaking is back, right? This White House is completely open for business. and what the Trump administration did under a subterranean, if you will, under the surface, is have Donald Trump control this deal, get the regulator out of the way, advise Ellison, and now suddenly we got the new reporting today that Warner Brothers is back in talks with Paramount. Now, Paramount has only increased its offer about$1.75 a share.
10:30Michael Popok:That's it. Saying, oh, well, we'll pay the$3 billion dollar breakup fee if Netflix sues and we'll backstop this debt. And if we don't close by December 31st, we'll pay a monthly charge and all this other stuff, barely raising its bid. I mean, even the shareholders of Warner Brothers don't like the Paramount deal because only 2 % voted for it when they try to go directly to the shareholders. But Donald Trump doesn't care about that. He wants to get CNN in the hands of the Ellison family. I just saw an amazing statistic that just came out in the last couple of days, which I think explains why Donald Trump is working so hard to control sort of all of corporate media, right?
11:19Michael Popok:This is a new survey that just came out in The Hollywood Reporter. And listen to these numbers. 54 % of U.S. adults get at least some of their information from YouTube newscasters, 25 % of them on a regular basis, and 57 % of YouTube's news audience is women. And if you're sitting around on one of these slickly produced shows on CNN or MSNBC or Fox, those days are waning. So Donald Trump wants to grab as much of corporate media that he can control because he can't control us. He can't control YouTube. He can't control the independent commentary and journalism that is the Midas Touch brand and is the Legal AF brand, period, end of story.
12:09Michael Popok:But I want to rip the cover off this story because the reporting, when it's done piecemeal, Oh, Paramount increased its bid. Warner Brothers back in talks with Paramount. Netflix shareholders give thumbs up to Netflix not acquiring Warner Brothers. Donald Trump meets with Larry Ellison's son in the White House. Donald Trump fires antitrust head, Abigail Slater. You sort of get lost of what all of this really means. That's why I wanted to meaningfully connect the dots and explain to you where we are. This is Donald Trump barely behind the scenes, manipulating the process to get CNN in the hands of his friends.
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Trump has taken secret meetings to try to orchestrate getting CNN into the hands of his buddies and Trump Supporters, the Ellison family, while at the same time firing the one person in his Administration who had the brass ones to stop the deal, just days after he said he would stay out of it and leave the decision of who gets Warner Brothers assets and CNN to the person he fired! Popok connects all the dots of what we are watching with Trump manipulating the Warner Brothers/CNN sale process for his own benefit.
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