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Legal AF Podcast Episode Summary
Podcast Overview Title: Legal AF by MeidasTouch Description: Legal AF provides incisive legal analysis on current political and legal developments, hosted by Ben Meiselas, Michael Popok, and Karen Friedman Agnifilo. New episodes air Wednesdays and Sundays.
Episode Details Title: Trump's Own Top Aide Could be his Worst Nightmare Description: This episode discusses the implications of Joe Kent's resignation as Trump's Director of Counterterrorism and Tulsi Gabbard's forthcoming Congressional testimony regarding the Iran War.
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Key Themes
- Joe Kent's Resignation
- Background: Joe Kent, a former Director of Counterterrorism under Trump, resigned publicly citing that Trump misled Americans about Iran posing an imminent threat.
- Contention: Kent's resignation letter argues against the need for military action in Iran, attributing war motivations to external pressures from Israel and its lobby.
- Tulsi Gabbard's Position
- Role: Tulsi Gabbard, at the time Director of National Intelligence, is portrayed as a critical figure who could challenge Trump's narrative regarding Iran.
- Predictions: Gabbard had previously predicted the negative outcomes of going to war with Iran, including the strengthening of its regime and oil blockades.
- Congressional Testimony
- Impending Testimony: Gabbard is expected to testify before Congress, providing intelligence that contradicts Trump's rationale for military strikes on Iran.
- Significance for Trump: The episode posits that Gabbard’s testimony presents a unique opportunity to undermine Trump's credibility regarding his foreign policy decisions.
- Political Dynamics
- Gabbard vs. Trump: The podcast suggests that Gabbard, previously sidelined in favor of pro-war advisors, is now positioned for political resurgence at Trump’s expense.
- Past Statements: Clips of Gabbard expressing strong opposition to war with Iran are referenced, highlighting her consistency on the issue contrasted with Trump's actions.
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Key Takeaways
- Criticism of Trump's Administration: The podcast critically examines the inconsistencies and alleged lies within Trump’s justification for military actions, particularly focusing on the Iran War.
- Impact of War on Political Careers: The episode emphasizes how military decisions can significantly impact political careers, especially in the context of Gabbard’s potential comeback.
- Counterterrorism Leadership: Kent's background as a military officer and intelligence officer raises questions about qualifications when juxtaposed with his conspiracy theories and election denialism.
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Conclusion This episode of Legal AF highlights the intersection of law, intelligence, and political maneuvering in the context of U.S. foreign policy, particularly regarding Iran. The dynamics between Trump, Kent, and Gabbard present a compelling narrative about accountability, truth in governance, and the ramifications of war decisions on political landscapes.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJoe Kent's Resignation and Impact
2:59 to 4:59
Understand Joe Kent's resignation and its implications for Donald Trump.
“Not so, says Joe Kent, one of the senior intelligence officers and directors for Donald Trump.”
Tulsi Gabbard's Testimony
4:59 to 8:00
Examine the significance of Tulsi Gabbard's upcoming testimony regarding Iran.
“Joe Kemp was unqualified to be the director of counterterrorism, but that's who Donald Trump picked.”
Critique of Trump's Decision-Making
8:00 to 11:43
Analyze the criticism of Trump's reliance on unqualified advisors.
“majority of them were undercover FBI confidential informants.”
Trump's Inexperienced Advisors and Their Impact
14:11 to 16:44
Learn about the shortcomings of Trump's key advisors and their implications for U.S. foreign policy.
“So what do we now know as Tulsi Gabbard goes in to testify effectively against Donald Trump?”
Tulsi Gabbard's Testimony and its Consequences
16:44 to 18:09
Explore the significance of Tulsi Gabbard's upcoming testimony and its potential effects on Trump.
“And she would have had better planning around the likelihood of the blockade, which is 27 % of oil goes through this shipping lane.”
Transcript
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2:58Popok:No, Donald Trump doesn't have a Joe Kent problem, although Joe Kent noisily resigned this week from being Trump's director of counterterrorism and did so in a letter in which he accused Donald Trump of lying to the American people about the fact that Iran was imminently about to attack America. as an excuse to fire first. Not so, says Joe Kent, one of the senior intelligence officers and directors for Donald Trump. That's not his problem. Donald Trump's problem is Tulsi Gabbard, who's on paper the director of national intelligence for the United States. 17 different agencies report to her, including the CIA.
3:38Popok:And she's going to be testifying this week. The problem is she does not believe in the Iran war. She does not believe that Donald Trump had proper grounds to attack Iran first or should be in war with him at all. Yes, she's trying to find a glide path at the end of this administration to have some sort of career. And that should be a white knuckle moment for Donald Trump as Tulsi Gabbard gets sworn in this week before the House and the Senate and testifies about intelligence and the Iranian war. This is her payback time, folks. She got deep-sixed during the Venezuelan war. Nowhere to be found on the stage with Donald Trump, even though it was in part an intelligence operation.
4:27Popok:Nowhere to be found when the Iranian war started. The last time we all saw Tulsi Gabbard, she was wearing a baseball cap and cosplay from the Kristi Noem collection down in Georgia with her hat pulled low as they were pulling 600 boxes of voter data out of Fulton County, Georgia. And now it's her time to shine. Michael Popok here on the Midas Touch Network and on Legal AF. Let's talk about Joe Kemp, but let's really talk about Tulsi Gabbard. And they are really good friends. Joe Kemp was unqualified to be the director of counterterrorism, but that's who Donald Trump picked. And that's who was confirmed by the Senate.
5:08Popok:Now, on paper, the first half of his career looks pretty good. 20 years in the military as a Green Beret. He was a CIA paramilitary officer. His wife was a cryptologist for the CIA who was killed in the Middle East. He's got the bona fides, except he's a tremendous election denier and a conspiracy theorist, friends with Nick Fuentes, the avowed white nationalist, and the rest. In fact, He got into it with a former member of the military, Senator Mark Kelly, former Navy officer during his confirmation process. Here's Joe Kent. Play the clip. This concerns January 6th. Do you believe that the violence on January 6th was intentionally organized or directed?
5:59Still under investigation. We're looking into whether elements of the government could have enhanced the criminal acuity of some of the rioters that day. So you've said on Twitter that the FBI and the intelligence community were involved in planning and directing the riot. Is that correct? Sounds like something I said, yeah. And what evidence do you have for that claim? So we've already identified that there were multiple confidential human informants ran by the FBI and other law enforcement agencies that were present in the crowd that day, directing, removing barriers, those types of things. This has been investigated widely.
6:42We're continuing to look into it. The intelligence, I would say the FBI and other elements of the law enforcement apparatus attempted to suppress the fact that there was undercover confidential human informants that were part of these different groups. We also had intelligence leading up to January 6th that there was going to be violence that day. So that speaks to some degree of intelligence infiltration into some of these groups. Who within the FBI? we're looking into that right now which departments of the fbi probably the washington field office so you believe the washington field office where it was involved in the planning of the violence in the building next door on january 6th it's being looked into i mean look we had and who was looking who was looking into it that we are in the intelligence community yeah we're looking into it right now.
7:34And do you believe that the IC conducts actions of this nature against Americans? Does the IC, well, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies entrapping individuals, if you look at who was running the Washington field office during January 6th, it was Stephen DeAntuano. He was also running the field office in Michigan, where many of the defendants were let go after they were accused of attempting to kidnap the governor because the vast majority of them were undercover FBI confidential informants. So unfortunately, this behavior does happen by members of law enforcement and the intelligence community.
8:10And it's incumbent upon us to make sure that we are transparent with the American people. Mr. Kent, would you be willing to share this evidence of this investigation with this committee? I look forward to it, Senator.
8:21Popok:Now, Joe Kent, who again is friends with Tulsi Gabbard, said this in his letter of resignation, which he did not have to write. He could have just quit. He said, I decided to resign from my position as director of the National Counterterrorism Center. That reports to the director of national intelligence, who is Tulsi Gabbard. He said, I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation. And it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. He talked about his own service to the country and in the military.
9:05Popok:He talked about the fact that in the first administration that Trump promised not to get drawn into a never-ending series of wars. He also talked about the fact that his wife was killed overseas in a war that he says was also manufactured by Israel. I pray that you will reflect upon what you're doing and who you're doing it for and reverse course. You hold the cards, the rest. Now, Tulsi Gabbard shares the same view about Iran, or at least she did before she joined the administration. Here's Tulsi Gabbard when she was running for the presidency. Whenever it came up as a debate topic, I think she's pretty clear that we should never go to war with Iran.
9:59Popok:Let's play the clip of Tulsi Gabbard before she became the director of national intelligence. Play the clip. The American people need to understand that this war with Iran would be far more devastating, far more costly than anything that we ever saw in Iraq. This is why it's so important that every one of us, every single American stand up and say no war with Iran. A war with Iran would be far more costly and far more devastating than anything that we experienced in Iraq. A war with Iran would make the war in Iraq look like a cakewalk. The neocon war hawks that surround President Trump have made no secret about what their intentions are to further this regime change effort, both in Venezuela as well as in Iran.
10:47President Trump campaigned against regime change wars when he ran for president. But now he bows to the wishes of the neocons who surround him, clamoring for regime change wars that he claimed to oppose this time in Venezuela and in Iran. This brings the United States closer than ever to war against Iran, which will be absolutely disastrous for our country, for Israel, for Iran, the Middle East, Europe and the world. I've introduced legislation to deal with some of these kinds of abuses called the No More Presidential Wars Act. And this legislation, this legislation would make it an impeachable offense for any president to bypass Congress and to unilaterally go and start waging a war in another country.
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14:11Popok:What he really means is he relied on Jared Kushner, who's an inexperienced negotiator and his son-in-law, and a guy by the name of Steve Witkoff, who is his cryptocurrency investment buddy, who also has no diplomatic foreign policy, nuclear power or war strategy experience, to decide whether they were about to strike first. No one in the intelligence community believed that Iran was going to strike first, especially after June when Donald Trump bombed a part of the nuclear program for Iran, that they would not, having seen the lethality of that attack, they would not attack America. So what do we now know as Tulsi Gabbard goes in to testify effectively against Donald Trump?
15:03Popok:Here's her chance, right? Right. She let it out. I mean, it leaked, but things leak on purpose in the Trump administration that their that their intelligence assessment before they dropped the first bomb on February 28th was that Iran would not succumb. It would not lead to the fall of Iran. It would not lead to regime change, even if they took out the supreme leader. And that the understandable reaction of the Iranians this time with a massive attack and a war would be to go after the oil interests of the United States, wherever they may be, and to blockade the Strait of Hormuz. Now, Pete Hegseth says as the defense secretary that they've always known about the Strait of Hormuz and they've always had a plan.
15:59Popok:Well, I don't understand what that plan is. Either they thought that the Strait would not be blockaded and therefore that's professional malpractice. Or they knew it was going to be blockaded and they didn't do a darn thing about it because they did no preparation work. All the stuff you're hearing about now today, oh, we dropped bunker buster bombs on some of the weaponry around the Strait of Hormuz that Iran uses. That should have been done in the first day of the war, not day 20, right, after the blockade happened. You should have had warships ready to create lanes on day one or day two, not try to fix it and blow up the blockade and try to get our allies to help with it on day 20.
16:44Popok:and this is going to be a white knuckle moment for Donald Trump when Tulsi Gabbard takes the stand because he's already accused her in the past of trying to preserve her own political viability and maybe run for president one day and we're going to see what's going to happen here she's going to have to answer for those video clips where she said it would be unwise to challenge or go after Iran. And the leaks that her own office sent out to make Donald Trump apparently look bad, which is she would not have recommended from the intelligence community standpoint, she would not have recommended that they go to war with Iran.
17:22Popok:And she would have had better planning around the likelihood of the blockade, which is 27 % of oil goes through this shipping lane. The other people that will be testifying this week, we'll cover it on Midas Touch and on Legal AF. John Ratcliffe is the head of the CIA. He on paper reports to Tulsi Gabbard, but sort of his own free agent as the top espionage agent or officer in America. And FBI Director Kash Patel, all talking about the Iran war. You know where to tune in for that. We'll be putting it up live on Legal AF YouTube on Midas Touch YouTube. Take a moment, hit the subscribe button for Legal AF YouTube, as well as we continue to grow to get to 1.1 million subscribers.
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Trump doesn’t have a Joe Kent problem, although his now former Director of Counter-terrorism wrote in a public letter that, in essence, Trump lied to the American people about Iran being an “imminent threat” to start the Iran War. No, he has a Tulsi Gabbard problem, as leaks come out of her National Intelligence office that she recommended against going to war with Iran, and predicted the exact oil blockade and strengthening of the Iranian regime that is on full display now. Popok looks at why Tulsi’s Congressional Testimony this week about Iran is going to be a white-knuckle moment for Trump, as Tulsi, sidelined by Trump, gets her chance to have some political future after she leaves office by throwing Trump under the bus.
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