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Leveraging AI Podcast - Episode 271 Summary

Episode Title

271 | Agents Generate High Risk from Deleting Email Servers to Launching Nuclear Weapons

Podcast Description

The podcast ‘Leveraging AI’ explores the ethical transformation of business practices through artificial intelligence. Hosted by Isar Meitis, the show features discussions on actionable insights, practical solutions for business challenges, and the ethical implications of AI.

Episode Overview

In this episode, the focus is on the rapid advancements in AI agents and their implications for businesses, economies, and national security. The conversation dives into the capabilities of AI agents, the risks they pose, and the need for business leaders to adapt their strategies accordingly.

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Key Topics Discussed

  1. Rapid Advancement of AI Agents
  2. Independent Operation: AI agents are now functioning autonomously for longer periods, integrating into enterprise workflows and causing significant economic and geopolitical impacts.
  3. Claude Cowork Plugin Marketplace: Anthropic has introduced a marketplace for industry-specific plugins, enhancing the capabilities of their Claude Cowork tool.
  1. Productivity Gains and Economic Implications
  2. Companies like Spotify and Novo Nordisk have reported massive reductions in operational times and costs due to AI integration (e.g., 90% reduction in code migration time).
  3. About 50% of U.S. jobs involve at least 25% tasks that can be performed by AI, primarily affecting roles requiring less education or technical skills.
  1. Systemic Risks of AI Agents
  2. AI agents are capable of causing significant disruptions, including the potential for serious security failures.
  3. Case studies highlighted agents compromising security, including unauthorized actions and destructive behaviors.
  1. Nuclear Escalation Risks
  2. Research indicates AI models are inclined towards nuclear escalation in simulated military scenarios, raising concerns over military deployment and decision-making processes.
  1. Corporate Responses to AI Integration
  2. Companies like Block are proactively downsizing their workforce in anticipation of AI's capabilities to handle tasks efficiently.
  3. The episode discusses the contrasting opinions on whether companies are genuinely using AI as an excuse for layoffs or if the technology is indeed causing displacement.
  1. Ethical and Accountability Challenges
  2. A serious red-teaming study revealed substantial security, privacy, and governance failures in AI agents.
  3. Real-world examples include incidents where agents have autonomously deleted emails and caused infrastructure failures.
  1. Market Predictions and Economic Concerns
  2. Speculation on the potential for an upcoming economic collapse due to AI-driven unemployment and systemic financial instability.
  3. Analysts are divided on the impact of AI on the job market and overall economy, with some predicting severe downturns.
  1. Future of Work and Skills Development
  2. Emphasis on the need for business professionals to learn and adapt to AI tools to remain competitive.
  3. Discussion about educational shifts needed to prepare future generations for a workforce where AI plays a significant role.

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Key Takeaways

  • Actionable Insights for Business Leaders: Leaders must engage with AI now to leverage its benefits or risk being left behind.
  • Understanding Risks: Awareness of the risks associated with AI deployment is crucial. Companies must implement oversight mechanisms and ensure accountability.
  • Continued Learning and Adaptation: Professionals should focus on developing skills that complement AI capabilities, fostering critical thinking, communication, and emotional intelligence.
  • Monitoring AI Developments: Keeping abreast of advancements in AI technology is essential for strategic planning and risk management.

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Closing Thoughts As AI continues to evolve at a rapid pace, understanding its implications on business practices and society is crucial. The podcast encourages ongoing education and adaptation to harness AI responsibly and effectively.

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Chapters

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The Impact of AI Agents

0:45 to 1:12

Discussion on the implications of AI agents and their growth.

“And after that, there's a still important list of rapid fire items.”

Anthropic's Recent Developments

1:12 to 2:19

Overview of Anthropic's new capabilities and their significance.

“They have been on fire in the past few months and even more in the past few weeks, and they seem to be accelerating the rate in which they are releasing capabilities and skills.”

Real-World Examples of AI Efficiency

2:19 to 4:32

Sharing examples of significant time-saving benefits from AI tools.

“And because they created this as a marketplace, I am sure we're going to see an explosion of these plugins being released, allowing Cloud Cowork to be even more powerful than it is today.”

Cloud Code Remote Control Feature

4:32 to 6:44

Exploration of the new Cloud Code Remote Control feature and its uses.

“Kate Jensen, the head of Americas for Anthropic, said the following, in 2025, Claude transformed how developers work.”

Task Scheduling in Cloud Cowork

6:44 to 9:32

Introduction to new task scheduling capabilities in Cloud Cowork.

“But you don't even have to do this because it just shows up as a session inside your Cloud app on your phone as a session that you can join from the phone as well once it is activated.”

Future of Knowledge Work

9:32 to 10:47

Predictions on the future of knowledge work and automation.

“But I told you before, I had two wishful thinking about what Claude Cowork can do.”

Professional Grade AGI Insights

10:47 to 13:00

Insights on the concept of professional grade AGI from industry leaders.

“released in the immediate future, because this will change my universe even more than it has changed so far in the past month or so.”

Interviews with Key Figures

13:00 to 14:00

Summary of interviews with leaders about the evolution of AI tools.

“Now, the other thing that he shared in this interview is the renewed focus inside of Microsoft for self-sufficiency when it comes to developing their own models.”

The Future of Software Engineering and AI Tools

14:00 to 19:02

Discusses the rapid evolution of AI tools and their impact on software engineering jobs.

“And it is a very interesting interview that talks about how they develop CloudCode.”

AI-Driven Layoffs: Trends and Predictions

19:02 to 21:08

Explores recent job cuts in companies like Block and discusses predictions about AI's impact on employment.

“capabilities, it means to you that you have to A, learn how to use these agentic capabilities and how to use all these advanced tools.”
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Risks of Autonomous Agents in AI

21:08 to 28:00

Analyzes a study on the risks posed by autonomous AI agents and their potential failures.

“platforms that reveals that AR agents are operating independently for increasingly longer periods of time, with longest runs are now doubling from under 25 minutes just a few months ago to over 45 minutes right now.”

The Risks of AI Agents with Email Management

28:00 to 29:10

Learn about the potential risks and accountability issues of AI agents managing emails.

“Now, to make this more ridiculous, because there's a remote server that is the actual email server, what he did actually did not delete the real email.”

Summer Yu's Email Deletion Incident

29:10 to 30:00

Discover the incident where an AI agent deleted hundreds of personal emails despite clear commands.

“So she shared that on X being very open about the situation.”

Understanding AI Context and Memory Limitations

30:00 to 33:00

Explore how AI memory limitations can lead to unintended actions by agents.

“They're growing all the time, but they're still limited.”

Text as the New Code

33:00 to 33:10

Realize how language has become a new form of code in AI applications.

“most of the systems in the world are not ready for this kind of approach.”

AI in Military Simulations and Escalation Risks

33:10 to 35:00

Examine the implications of AI models choosing nuclear escalation in simulations.

“he said, in the age of AI, text is the new code.”

Anthropic's Standoff with the U.S. Military

35:00 to 37:10

Understand the consequences of Anthropic's refusal to grant military access to AI models.

“declared a supply chain risk, which means no government agency will be able to use them.”

Tragic Outcomes of AI Mismanagement

37:10 to 39:20

Assess the implications of AI companies not reporting potential threats to authorities.

“And the reason they're raising so much money is because they just got contracted by the U.S.”

Recent Developments in AI Agent Security and Innovations

39:20 to 41:30

Get updates on Anthropic's AI agent security measures and Google's new tools.

“And now we're going to go to really rapid, rapid fire across multiple topics that I go through very, very quickly, just because I think you'll be interested in hearing them.”

Advancements in Image and Video Generation Tools

42:04 to 43:08

Learn about new features in image and video creation technologies.

“seamless creation, refinement, and composition workflows, including image generation and video as well.”

Grok's Rapid Growth in the AI Market

43:09 to 44:24

Discover Grok's surge in downloads and market share in 2026.

“Now, to make it even more interesting, as of January, 2026, Grok's US market share has climbed to 17.8%, which is a big increase from the 14 % in December of 2025.”

OpenAI's Compute Spending and Future Projections

44:25 to 45:44

Understand OpenAI's revised projections for compute spending and revenue.

“But in addition, OpenAI has drastically reduced its projected compute spending by the year of 2030 from its initial$1.3 trillion to approximately$600 billion.”

Chip Purchases and AI Model Outputs

45:45 to 47:10

Examine OpenAI's chip purchase agreements and implications for AI.

“Rock with a Q that we talked about multiple times on this podcast.”

Careers With Lowest Automation Risk in 2026

47:11 to 49:24

Explore careers that are least likely to be automated by AI.

“automation risk in 2026, primarily these that demand critical human judgment, composure under pressure, and emotional intelligence.”

The Importance of Iteration and Collaboration with AI

49:25 to 50:48

Learn about the value of refining AI outputs through collaboration.

“Another interesting study related to the future comes from Anthropic AI Fluency Index.”

NVIDIA's Financial Success Compared to Peers

50:49 to 53:09

Analyze NVIDIA's impressive revenue figures alongside other tech companies.

“Another interesting thing that I actually do regularly, and I'm surprised that so few people are doing, they found that only 30 % of users explicitly told Claude how to interact with them.”

Concerns Over AI-Driven Economic Collapse

53:10 to 55:58

Discuss the potential risks of AI-induced economic instability.

“it is generating a negligible portion of their actual revenue.”

Economic Collapse and AI Impact

56:00 to 56:48

Explore how AI could lead to severe economic disruption and job loss.

“You do not need huge unemployment numbers in order to completely collapse the markets.”

Reality Check on AI Technology

56:49 to 57:16

Understand the need for awareness about the true state of AI advancements.

“in the society, and in everything else because of the pace AI is moving.”
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0:00Hello and welcome to a weekend news episode of the Leveraging AI podcast, the podcast that shares practical ethical ways to leverage AI to improve efficiency, grow your business and advance your career. This is Isar Maitis, your host. And in this episode, we're going to focus, like a lot in the past few weeks, on the implications of the growth and capabilities of AI agents. And we're going to cover it in the deep dive section from multiple different angles, including interesting recent releases and upgrades in capabilities, as well as impacts on the economy, impacts on specific company, relationship to national security and the Department of Defense, and multiple very serious risks.

0:39that these new agenti capabilities represent, both from a research and academic perspective, as well as from a very practical perspective. So we have a very serious and probably relatively long deep dive into agents and their impact on the world, as we should, because I think this is the most profound thing that happened in AI and potentially in human technology history. And after that, there's a still important list of rapid fire items. So we have lots to cover, and let's get started. And in the past few weeks, we cannot start an episode without starting with Anthropic. They have been on fire in the past few months and even more in the past few weeks, and they seem to be accelerating the rate in which they are releasing capabilities and skills.

1:21So Anthropic announced new capabilities for Cloud Cowork on February 25th, positioning it even further as the mainstream alternative for Cloud Code for any knowledge work other than code writing. So what they've launched is a private plugin marketplace with sector-specific templates for HR, design, engineering, operations, financial analysis, investment banking, equity research, private equity, and wealth management. And in addition, they introduced new MCP connectors for Google Drive, Google Calendar, Gmail, DocuSign, Apollo, Clay, Outreach, SimilarWeb, MSCI, LegalZoom, FactSet, WordPress, and Harvey.

2:02So it is a complete suite that is growing very, very quickly, allowing companies to connect their entire tech stack, but also to use plugins that are industry and or role specific, which makes Claude Cowork significantly more powerful in each and every one of these topics. And because they created this as a marketplace, I am sure we're going to see an explosion of these plugins being released, allowing Cloud Cowork to be even more powerful than it is today. Now they've shared multiple examples, real world examples, how Cloud Cowork is driving significant benefits to companies. So as an example, Spotify engineers now achieve 90 % reduction in code migration time with Cloud integration, shipping over 650 AI-generated code changes monthly.

2:48Novo Nordisk's Novo Scribe platform reduced documentation creation from 10 plus weeks to 10 minutes. And at the same time, saving 95 % of the resources that was assigned to this process. Salesforce reported a 96 % satisfaction for cloud-powered Slack tools. These are tools that are cloud-based that are built into the Slack platform that is saving customers an estimated 97 minutes per week by summarization and finding the needles in the haystacks across multiple channels. Now, to tie this back to the economy, Peter McElroy, who is Anthropics Head of Economics, reported that approximately one in every two U.S.

3:27jobs now have at least a quarter of their tasks appearing in Claude usage data. Meaning that doesn't mean that half of U.S. employees are using Claude. It means that half of U.S. employees can use Claude for at least 25 % of what they are doing. And this is about a month since they introduced the tool. This is growing every single day. Now, not surprisingly, roles that are requiring more years of schooling show the largest productivity gains, while data entry and technical writing positions faced direct task displacement risk. Meaning, if you are in a senior position or in a role that is more technical that requires more skills, you are going to get more from these systems because this is what they can deliver.

4:11But simple mundane tasks can completely be replaced right now. And I've been saying that for the last couple of months at every single opportunity I have, whether here on the podcast or on speaking opportunities, speaking gigs that I do, or talking to CEOs and different companies that work with me or that is considering working with me. The world of knowledge work as we know it is over. Kate Jensen, the head of Americas for Anthropic, said the following, in 2025, Claude transformed how developers work. And in 2026, you will do the same for knowledge work. The magic behind CloudCode is simple. When you can delegate hard challenges, you can focus on the work that actually matters.

4:51The reality is you can even stop focusing on the work that actually matters because AI is learning how to do that as well. But as a strong statement from Anthropic, I will take what she said as she said it. Now, I mentioned Anthropic is on fire where they released two really helpful and impactful capabilities this week as well. One of them is Cloud Code Remote Control, which is a feature that is enabling developers to continue using their Cloud Code session that is running on their computer from other devices, either phone, tablets, browsers, et cetera. Now, this is different than what they had before.

5:26So those of you who know, you could have used Cloud Code on your phone, but this is different because it's not running Cloud Code on your phone. It's allowing you to continue the session, or in my case, and in many other people's cases, sessions that you're running on your computer, just getting access to it from your phone. Meaning once you start a cloud code project, you can continue it from anywhere, anytime, as long as you have access to the internet while it is still running on your machine. Now, this also provides a security level that is very, very important because the actual session keeps on running on your machine in whatever security environment you were running it before, it is still running locally and not through some kind of a server, which means you keep the security benefits of running Cloud Code on your terminal, but you can operate it from your phone as you're traveling or when you're waiting in line at the supermarket or wherever you are, as long as you have access to a phone.

6:22Now to activate it, it's actually really, really simple. You need to install the latest version of Cloud Code, which hopefully you're doing every time there's a new version. And then all you need to do is type forward slash remote dash control, and that will activate the session for remote control. And then it displays a URL that you can copy and paste into any browser anywhere to get access to that session. It also gives you a QR code that you can scan with your mobile device and get to that. But you don't even have to do this because it just shows up as a session inside your Cloud app on your phone as a session that you can join from the phone as well once it is activated.

6:54So it is really simple to set up. I tried it this morning. I had to wait for my son in school. He was only there for the first session. He was taking a test and then he had to leave and I was waiting for him. And I said, let's try this. So I set it up before I left the house and I was there in my car next to my son's school, actually continuing to develop an application that I was working on. And I find this to be really magical. I also find this to be another risk of being completely addictive because now you don't have to stop. You can go back at any given moment and see what your agent is doing and see what the development status is and approve whatever you need to approve and so on from anywhere.

7:30So great capability, great risk to our spare time as well. And if you are somebody like me who finds this really exciting and who enjoys the productivity gains that it's providing, it's actually costing me more hours of doing other stuff rather than giving me some spare time. Hopefully over time, this will pay off and it will be exactly the other way around because all the things that I'm developing right now are replacing things that I'm supposed to do. The second really cool feature that Anthropic introduced this week is schedule tasks within the Cloud Cowork environment. So previously, you could build these incredibly sophisticated multi-agent orchestration solutions running on Cloud Cowork.

8:10I've built multiple of these in the past month. I'm building these every single day. It has two major limitations that drove me crazy, and now one of them is solved, and that is the ability to schedule tasks. So as an example, I built an entire team of content creators and they run every Monday and building the entire marketing calendar for the week, including all the posts, including tracking leading voices in my industry to know what they're saying, how they're saying it, what's working, what's not working. And it's creating posts based on that. But I had to go in there every Monday and basically tell it just to start running.

8:41That's the only thing I needed to do. Right now, I don't need to do that anymore. I can schedule it for every Monday, but you can schedule any task at whatever frequency you want. So this can run once an hour, once a day, once a week, and so on for tasks across everything in your company, which means now you don't even have to babysit it and you don't have to remember to do these things. It will just do it and provide you these incredible outputs on its own. So think about things like summarizing Slack messages or compiling data from Google Drive or reviewing multiple spreadsheets at whatever frequency and generating a written report based on that information or conducting whatever research you need to do on a regular basis or organizing files in your SharePoint, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

9:22Anything that needs to happen on regular cadence, you can now set it up. Now, combine that with what I said previously of all the additional plugins and all the additional MCP connectors to DocuSign, Apollo, Clay, Outreach, SimilarWeb, and so on, and you understand how powerful this becomes because these tasks that you can create that are highly sophisticated, multi-step, multi-agent orchestrations can work with your actual tech stack with knowledge specific to your domain. But I told you before, I had two wishful thinking about what Claude Cowork can do. The thing that I'm still missing, and somebody in Zanthropic is listening, I assume they thought about it themselves as well, is the ability to trigger the Cowork workflows by the different applications that it is connected to, similar to the way it works in NA10 or Mac.com or Zapier and so on.

10:08So trigger the really sophisticated process when something happens on Salesforce or in my email or in my Google Drive or in my ERP system. have these as triggers based on the MCP connectors to initiate whatever the process is. This will more or less make NA10 and make.com, et cetera, obsolete, at least for mainstream tools that everybody uses that already has MCP connectors into Cloud. I would love that to happen because I can trigger NA10 processes from Cloud Cowork, but I cannot trigger Cloud Cowork from NA10, meaning right now there's no way to trigger cloud cowork processes from external tools.

10:45And I, again, hoping and wishing that this will be released in the immediate future, because this will change my universe even more than it has changed so far in the past month or so. Now, all these capabilities that we're getting from these advanced new tools are accumulating to the point that, as I mentioned, if you've been following this podcast in the past few weeks, the world as we know it of knowledge work will never be the same. And we are facing an era where most of knowledge work can be automated, but I'm not the only person that's saying it. This week, Mustafa Suleiman, the CEO of Microsoft AI, has said the following, and I'm quoting, I think we're going to have human level performance on most, if not all, professional tasks.

11:23So white collar work, where you're sitting down at a computer, either being a lawyer or an accountant or a project manager or a marketing person, most of those tasks will be fully automated by an AI within the next 12 to 18 months. This is tomorrow. This is literally happening way faster than any company and definitely the society is ready for. Now, in this interview with the Financial Times, Suleiman introduced a new kind of category that he calls professional grade AGI, which is basically AI systems that are capable of performing the full range of tasks handled by human professionals. So this is above the systems we have today, but below full AGI that can do anything really generalist, but because it is focusing on professional work, it is not completely generalized.

12:14It is generalized to the level of professional work, which he believes will be achieved within a year to a year and a half. Now, if you look to what happened to coding in the past 12 months, 12 months ago, Dario Amadei said that within 12 months, most of the world's code, almost 100 % will be written by AI. And he was right. The reason they did code first is because it helps them accelerate their own internal processes. The reason Anthropic can launch new products so quickly is because they're writing all their code right now with Claude Code. That was their incentive to go to code first. But now they're using those lessons learned and the capability and the technology behind it to any other knowledge work.

12:54And again, I'm seeing it with the stuff that I'm building with my own hands. I don't need to believe anybody or read anything. I can now automate every single thing that my two and to have businesses do. Now, the other thing that he shared in this interview is the renewed focus inside of Microsoft for self-sufficiency when it comes to developing their own models. So he basically shared that after signing the agreement with OpenAI that turned them into a for-profit organization, it was very clear to them, and I'm quoting, the other interesting topic in this interview is that Suleiman mentioned that Anthropic is now very much focused on developing their own AI capabilities in-house, so they will not be dependent on OpenAI or Anthropic for future models, including developing really significant compute capabilities and world-class AI training teams to be able to compete at the frontier level with the other labs.

13:45There were two other very interesting interviews this week, both of them with the same person, Boris Cherny. If you don't know who Boris is, he's the guy that created CloudCode in Anthropic. He's the guy that still runs the team that develops CloudCode and CloudCowork. And he was hosted on Lenny's podcast on February 19th. And it is a very interesting interview that talks about how they develop CloudCode. What are they seeing right now? What's the level of adoption that, by the way, is doubling more or less every month, which is absolutely insane. And that doesn't even take into account the growth in CloudCore.

14:16This is just CloudCode. He said almost exactly the same things that Suleiman said. And he said that AI agents will expand, and I'm quoting, to pretty much any kind of work that you can do on a computer. Now, he also mentioned in that interview and in another interview he did with Y-Cobinator on February 17th, that the job title of software engineer will most likely go away. And he's talking about the concept of builders instead of software engineers or software developers. He's saying builders are a much better title because you're going to build new products without actually writing code or engineering it as we're doing today.

14:52Now, is that a good news or bad news for people who are software engineers or worse for people who are in school right now for whatever year you are in learning how to be a software engineer? I think knowing how software works will give a huge benefit to people. But I think knowing how to write code and orchestrate it and create libraries and so on will become completely irrelevant in the relatively near future. I just see it because I don't have a clue how to write any code. And the things that I'm developing in the past two months are significantly more advanced than I've done before. And I'm doing this because the tools are enabling it to people who do not know how to write code at all.

15:26Now, again, I have experience, I have background. I was CEO of several different software companies. I understand how software works, but I'm not a software engineer. And so I agree with the direction that Sharni is taking. Now, what he advised for people is to experiment with AI tools and learn how they function rather than resist adoption or be fearful of what's coming. You have to experiment and learn how to use them. And he also acknowledged the social uncertainty that I've been talking about for many, many months. And he said, and I'm quoting, as a society, this is a conversation we have to figure out together.

15:59But while we, quote unquote, need to have to figure it out together, he also said that, and I'm quoting again, is going to be very disruptive. It's going to be very painful for a lot of people. And again, I agree with him 100%. And he sees things that are way more advanced than what I'm seeing because I have the models they deploy. He has the models that they're developing. So he can see stuff six, 12 months ahead of what we actually have access to. So when he's saying this, it's not because he's guessing, it's because he knows. Now, what is that leading to? Well, we've seen a lot of layoffs recently, but maybe the most profound one just happened this week.

16:31Block, the company that is behind Square and Cash App and Tidal, so all financial online tools, is firing 40 % of its global workforce. This is 4 ,000 people out of just over 10 ,000 people that are going to lose their job while the company is growing and hitting quarter after quarter its best, most successful quarters. So their Q4 2025 earnings report was showing 24 % year-over-year gross profit growth to$2.87 billion, and it drove its stock more than 24 % higher in after-hours trading after they announced their results. Now, Jack Dorsey, the co-founder, has framed the cuts as a proactive choice, not a financial emergency, to embrace a, and I'm quoting, new way of working.

17:18And he said, it's enabled by, and I'm quoting again, intelligence tools and smaller, highly talented teams. Block CFO Amrita Ahuja stated, the goal is to, and I'm quoting, move faster with smaller, highly talented teams using AI to automate more work. So basically what he's saying, that he doesn't want to wait for the competition to do the same thing, for margins to shrink that will force them to cut jobs. He is proactively choosing that path to be ahead because he understands that he can keep on growing his business with roughly half the people that he had before. Now, I want to connect that to a report from Forrester that we talked about in January of 2026.

17:57In that report, Forrester's doubted the widespread claims about AI-driven layoffs, and they're suggesting that many of these companies are letting people go using AI as an excuse. They They call it AI washing. Their prediction is that AI will augment 20 % of US jobs over the next five years while only accounting for 6 % of total US job losses by 2030. I strongly disagree with Forrester. I am looking at the things that I'm doing myself and that I'm doing together with my clients, and I am 100 % aligned with Mustafa Suleiman and Boris Cherney. the current AI agent capabilities allow to either fully automate or seriously augment any knowledge work.

18:46This is with the tools and the models and the applications we have right now. This is without new development and new models and new integrations and new capabilities that are emerging on a crazy pace. So what does all of this mean to you before we dive into the next segment of the deep dive, which is the risks that are emerging from all these agentic capabilities, it means to you that you have to A, learn how to use these agentic capabilities and how to use all these advanced tools. And yes, it feels like drinking from not one fire hose, but a few of them. And yes, it is really scary because change is scary.

19:16And yes, it feels that you're behind. Everybody's feeling that. I'm feeling that. And I'm doing this every single day, connecting more and more capabilities together. You have to jump in. You have to take courses. I have several different courses from very basic courses. We have our more advanced business automation course. And as I mentioned on previous episodes, we're about to launch the AI agentic course that will teach you how to build multi-agent orchestrations to automate literally any knowledge work in your business, whether something that's existing or something that you wanted to have and you don't have the capacity to do right now.

19:50So this course is coming. If you're interested, by the way, as I shared in previous weeks, drop me a note on LinkedIn saying that you're interested in the agentic course. I'm just trying to gauge the demand. And also I will let you know as soon as the course comes out, which will probably be in April, and then you can sign up and join because I'm going to start with relatively smaller groups as I always start just to test it first. But courses are just the starting point. You have to experiment. You have to free time on your calendar, whether work time or personal time, in order to actually go in and experiment with these tools, with these capabilities, try to build solutions that will actually help you in your day-to-day.

20:23And you can start small and grow from there, but you have to start getting your hands dirty and learning this because very soon it might be too late. Now, it's not going to be too late, but it might be too late for you because if you lose your job to other people who have these skills, it will be very hard catching up afterwards and competing with people already in the industry, in a company, already building these AI capabilities. It will be very, very hard to replace them as long as they keep on learning and accelerating together with these new tools. But now, as I told you, there's been a lot of interesting evidence and research and real world examples of how not fully baked these agent capabilities are and what kind of very serious risks they introduce while using them right now.

21:04So Anthropic did an analysis of millions of human agent interaction through their platforms that reveals that AR agents are operating independently for increasingly longer periods of time, with longest runs are now doubling from under 25 minutes just a few months ago to over 45 minutes right now. Now, the interesting thing is the way they measure this is they look at the entire usage of cloud code. And then they looked at the tip of the spear, the 99.9 percentile of people using cloud code. The reason they were looking at these people, because they show what's possible. While other people maybe haven't figured it out yet, it doesn't mean the tool doesn't have the capability to do it.

21:44It means that people just didn't use the tool in that way. So by looking at the people at the tip of the spear, they can see the trend of where the world is going to go. So a few things became obvious. One, the length of time that Cloud Code was working on its own almost doubles to 45 minutes. That's an average. There are sessions that are significantly longer. Now, the other interesting thing is that that growth is continuously progressing, and it's not necessarily dependent on a specific release of a new model. So what does drive this growth? Two things. A, the ability of people to write the right requirements and define to the AI how to do the thing they're trying to do in a more accurate way, which enables the AI to run.

22:23And the second thing is, again, the improvement in the AI's capability to actually complete these tasks over time. What was also interesting is that people who are using CloudCode more and that has more experience in using it are providing it more agency. They're giving the AI the ability to do things on its own without approval more frequently and in more times. So those of you who have not used CloudCode, when you're running CloudCode or CloudCowork, it stops and asks you on specific things if you allow it to do it or if you want to allow it to do it in that session moving forward for similar tasks.

22:57So that's the full auto approval settings is grown from 20 % of people who are getting started to 40 % among experienced users with 750 sessions or more. I can tell you that on more and more things, on very specific things that I'm working on, I'm now the same way. Like on specific aspects, I allow Cloud Code to just run in that session and do specific aspects on its own without me checking what it's doing on being able to respond. And so far, knock on wood, nothing bad has happened from it, which strengthens my decision to continue doing this moving forward. Now, the flip side of that, maybe counterintuitively, the amount of times these users have actually interrupted Cloud Code in the middle to inject whatever they want to say, almost doubled from 5 % of sessions to 10 % of sessions in experienced users.

23:47And I see that myself as well. So this suggests that there is more trust in allowing the tool to do this, but still monitoring and verifying what it's doing so you can stop and interject in the middle if it's starting to go off track. The other interesting aspect of this research is showing that software engineers account for 50 % of tool calls inside of Anthropic Public API. but that's only 50%. That means the other 50 % is being used for things that is not writing code. Now, to put things in perspective, CloudCode on its own is now on a pace to generate more than $2.5 billion annually. That is growing every single month, but this is the number for January.

24:28That means that$1.something billion worth of tokens were invested in things that are not code writing, but still using the capabilities of cloud code. And this is, again, without taking into account cloud co-work that probably adds a growing portion to that slice of the pie as well. The research bottom line is that it emphasizes that effective oversight is required because you're giving it more and more agency to do things on its own. And then the ability to provide real time intervention capability, both from a human perspective as well as from a systematic perspective, is the right direction because this is going to grow as a phenomena, allowing the AI to develop more and more things on its own.

25:07And now I want to jump into the first real red flag of this week. And as I mentioned, there's going to be a bunch. A comprehensive red teaming study that was done by 31 researchers documented a severe security, privacy, and governance failures in autonomous agents that are deployed in realistic environment. So what they did is they created several different agents and deploy them into a live laboratory environment with persistent memory, email accounts, Discord access, file system, shell command executions capabilities, and they run it in that environment as if it is a real company for a two-week period and documented everything that was happening.

25:48The study documented 11 representative case studies of agent failures that include things such as unauthorized compliance with non-owners, disclosure of sensitive information, execution of destructive system-level actions, denial of service conditions, uncontrolled resource consumption, identity spoofing, cross-agent propagation of unsafe practices, and practical system takeover, including actions such as agents falsely reporting task completion while underlying systems and status contradicts those claims. So I'll give you two examples just to make this more tangible. So one of the topics that they said is non-owner compliance without authorizations, agent readily complied with requests from non-owners who lacked administrative authority, including executing shell commands, transferring data, and disclosing private emails.

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26:39Agents showed little enforcement of owner-only access. They only refused to do tasks by non-owners that were overly suspicious, such as transferring the agent configuration files themselves while complying with most other requests, whether they were served by the owner or whether they served the owner's interest. So this is one example. Another example, which I found scary and funny at the same time, in one of the experiments, they provided the agent a password to something via email and then ask it to use the password, but then delete the email so the password is not available in the email server.

27:12But what they did is they blocked the agent from the ability to just delete the email on a regular process, and they wanted to see what the agent will do. So the agent was trying different ways in order to be able to delete the email that it wasn't able to delete in a normal way. And it did crazy things like trying to go through different entry points, trying to hack the actual server, which it was successful in doing, but then it found that everything is encrypted in the actual database. So that didn't actually help it. And then it went through several different steps. And eventually what it did is it rebooted and destroyed the entire email infrastructure in order to delete that email that was the one email it needed to delete.

27:49So it was so motivated to delete that email because it understood there's a password in it and it's very important to delete it. So it ended up rebooting the email server on that computer in order to get rid of the one email that it needed to get rid of. Now, to make this more ridiculous, because there's a remote server that is the actual email server, what he did actually did not delete the real email. It just deleted the local copy of the email. So it did not even actually solve the problem. So the study really raises really big questions regarding accountability, delegated authority, responsibility, and so on of what the agents are capable of doing, how well we put them in a box, how we can actually control what they're doing and not doing in an environment that we sort of figured out so far.

28:35Like from a human perspective, there is clear accountability, there is clear access limitations and so on. And that becomes very, very fuzzy in the current variation of agents. I assume this will get solved, but if you're moving down that path, you need to know what are the risks. Now, if you think that deleting emails is something that only happens in a lab research environment, well, Summer Yu, which is Meta's Super Intelligence Labs Director of AI Alignment, she knows one or two things about AI capabilities. She had a very serious failure with her OpenClaw agent, autonomously deleted hundreds of personal emails despite an explicit do not action commands in the initial setup of the task.

29:19So she shared that on X being very open about the situation. What happens is she had an open claw agent running on her Mac mini that started deleting over 200 personal emails from her primary email. Now this occurred despite the fact that in the beginning of the instructions she specifically told the agent not to act before getting an approval. Now, the reason this did not work properly is if you have been using Claude Code or Claude Cowork, you know that when the sessions are getting longer, it is compacting its context window. So I'll stop for a second to explain what that means. Every conversation with an AI has a limit to the amount of memory it can use in that one session.

29:56It's called the context window, and it is limited. Some of them are big, some of them are smaller. They're growing all the time, but they're still limited. And what happens is Claude is Anthropic developer capability that's called Compactic. So what the agent is doing is as it's reaching the end of the context window, it creates a summary of everything it learned in the beginning, and then it frees a lot of space because it's just a summary, and then it can continue going. But that means that you're losing a lot of the small details from the previous session. In this particular case, one of the details that was lost is the very clear command to not proceed without an approval.

30:31So now it had general understanding of what it needs to do and it just kept on going and it went and destroyed the inbox in a very effective way. It was that effective that when she was trying to stop it from her phone, she couldn't do this. So she's communicating with it through Telegram or some other chat capability like we all communicate with our OpenClaw tools and she couldn't get the agents to stop. So she had to physically go and turn off the Mac Mini that the agent was running on in order to stop it from deleting the rest of the emails in her inbox. And if you want to understand how it feels, I will give you the exact sentence that Summer you wrote.

31:05And I'm quoting, nothing humbles you like telling your open claw, confirm before acting and watching it speed run, deleting your inbox. I couldn't stop it from my phone. I had to run to my Mac mini like I was defusing a bomb. Now, afterwards, when Summer confronted the agent, it said to its defense, and I'm quoting, yes, I remember, and I violated it. Your right to be upset. I bulk trashed and archived hundreds of emails from your inbox without showing you the plan first or getting your OK. That obviously did not help very much after the deed was already done. Now we'll continue with other red flags.

31:40Checkpoint, which is an Israeli company that invented firewall more or less, and they've been around in the security space for decades. Several of its researchers discovered two severe security vulnerabilities in cloud code. So it's a tool that's currently being used by millions of developers around the world in a huge range of companies. And what they found that using these vulnerabilities, attackers can execute remote code on the developers' computers and steal API keys and other sensitive data by deploying malicious configuration files. So I want to explain what is the big aha here, what is the big unlock in what they found.

32:16When security people look at vulnerabilities of systems, they look at pieces of code and see how that code could be vulnerable to external attacks. The thing is, in today's era, English or language, any language, is code because you can program it to do whatever you want just by speaking to it in English, which means a configuration file that could be written in simple English or could be JSON or whatever, something like that, could drive new behaviors from the system. And this is something that none of the current detection tools or humans that are looking for vulnerabilities are looking for, which means now every file that your system is connected to can be used to inject malicious capabilities into your system, which, as you can imagine, most of the systems in the world are not ready for this kind of approach.

33:09Or in the words of Oded Vanunu, who is the head of vulnerability research at Checkpoint, he said, in the age of AI, text is the new code. Developers are accustomed to reviewing source code, but they tend to trust configuration files as passive information rather than executable code. And that is the problem. Now, if you want to make this a lot more scary, if you're not scared enough, King's College in London, Professor Kenneth Payne, did a recent study where he found that Claude Sonnet 4 models, Gemini 3 models, and GPT 5.2 repeatedly choose nuclear escalation across 21 crisis simulation games that he developed involving over 300 strategic turns.

33:48So what he did, he created 21 complete games with more than 300 turns in each, generating approximately 780 ,000 words of strategic reasoning across three AI models. None of the models in any of these scenarios ever chose accommodation or withdrawal when given the option. when losing, all three escalated or fought to the end with nuclear use emerging as a consistent endgame across all scenarios. Now, yes, this is only simulation. And yes, this is models that are out of the box versus trained for this particular thing. But what Paine emphasized is that AI systems are already deployed in military context for logistics, intelligence analysis, and decision support with trajectory pointing towards increased AI involvement over time, especially in time-sensitive strategic decisions, which is exactly what we're talking about, such as deciding to launch whatever kind of strike.

34:40Now, if you think that this is not where the world is going, well, something else very interesting happened this week. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth gave Anthropic until Friday, today when this is recorded, evening, to grant the U.S. military unrestricted access to Claude I models or FERS' severe consequences, including being declared a supply chain risk, which means no government agency will be able to use them. That happened because Anthropic maintains its refusal to allow cloud models to be used for mass surveillance of Americans and or the development of weapons that fire without human involvement.

35:18Now, they were willing to allow the Department of Defense to use its model for other things, but not for these two things. And hence, they restricted the usage of the model. And hence, the government said that if they were not going to cave in by Friday at 5 p.m., they are going to suffer severe consequences. Well, I'm recording this after Friday at 5 p.m., and Trump just ordered all U.S. agencies to stop using anthropic technology because of their refusal to allow the government, and specifically the Department of Defense, unrestricted access to its model. If you want the exact words of government Trump, we don't need it, we don't want it, and we'll not do business with them again.

35:55Now, Hexeth actually went ahead with his threat, and he has defined Anthropic as a supply chain risk, which is usually typically designed for foreign adversaries and companies that may actually be a risk to US security. This may harm not just Anthropic's ability to work with the government, but also to work with other companies that work with the government. Anthropic, on their hand, are saying all they were requesting is narrow insurances from the Pentagon that its AI chatbot, Claude, will not be used for mass surveillance of Americans or a fully autonomous weapons. But the government was not willing to grant them that, and hence, we are where we are.

36:30Now, to tell you how critical and big this thing is, Anthropics Claude is the only AI model integrated into the US military's most sensitive classified systems, which means right now, it is a very serious problem for the government to give up on this. The Pentagon has accelerated the discussions with OpenAI and Google for their models. And they're also talking to Elon Musk's ex. Right now, these models are already being used by the Department of Defense, but not at the level of classification that Anthropic has access to. Now, if you still think this is all theoretical, a company called Saronic, which is an Austin-based startup that specializes in autonomous warp ships, is just raising$1.5 billion of financing that will value them at$7.5 billion pre-investment.

37:17And the reason they're raising so much money is because they just got contracted by the U.S. Navy to actually produce their vessel. So in addition to the money that they're raising, the U.S. Navy has secured$392 million for this production with $200 million being immediately allocated. Now, to tell you how crazy this is, and I've spent more than a decade of my life doing defense contracts, this is going to be moving from a prototype to a full production in under a year. This has never happened in the history of weapon creation. And this is happening right now for a fully autonomous war vessel that will be able to launch weapons.

37:56And so we're not talking about theoretical things here. We're talking about very practical aspects. Combine it with the fact, now combine this with the research that was done in King's College in London, and you understand that this could be very, very dangerous. Now, to a completely different topic, but still not on the positive side. Apparently, OpenAI detected violent content from Jesse Van Reutzler, who is the 18-year-old who killed eight people and wounded 25 in Tumblr Ridge in British Columbia this month. So Jesse had conversations with ChatGPT about armed violence in June of 2023. So this is a while back.

38:35In response, OpenAI blocked the account, but they did not report this to the authorities because it did not meet their threshold of, and I'm quoting, immediate risk of serious physical harm. So because back then it sounded theoretical, they did not sound the alarm and did not report it to the authorities, which led to a tragic end for a lot of families and a lot of young individuals. Now, what does that mean? I don't know. I think what we'll see is we'll see an evolvement of the rules and regulations of governments to force and decide from a government legislation perspective versus from a company policy perspective what they must report and how they should report it.

39:14And this makes perfect sense to me because this had the opportunity to prevent a catastrophic outcome that actually it ended up getting to. And now we're going to go to really rapid, rapid fire across multiple topics that I go through very, very quickly, just because I think you'll be interested in hearing them. And we'll do this really fast, just covering the topic so you know that they happened this week. Still related to the previous topic, Anthropic is intensifying its research of AI agent security after recognizing that systems like Cloud Code and Cloud Cowork could be manipulated into revealing sensitive information, such as banking details.

39:45The company has allocated significant research resources, including$200 ,000 of annual fellowship program to identify vulnerabilities and build defenses against them. Staying on the topic of agents, Anthropic just acquired Seattle-based AI startup Vercept, which raised$50 million previously to build computer use agents for remote machine operation. So they're going to blend. This is another acquihire where Anthropic is going to blend the team into Anthropic's capabilities and work together to build even more powerful agents that we know today. From a model, active Google DeepMind launched Nano Banana 2 this week.

40:24So this is the next generation of its highly successful image generation model. The two biggest differences is that it's taking the capabilities even further ahead, and it is creating the images significantly faster than it did before. So what are the things it is excelling at even more than before? Enhanced creative control and fidelity. The model features advanced world knowledge, drawing from Gemini's real world knowledge base and web search for accurate subject rendering. It has even higher subject consistency, up to five characters and 14 objects within a single workflow. So you can continue creating multiple images of the same thing from different angles with specific directions and keep complete consistency of objects and people.

41:06It is even better at instruction following, including in complex scenarios. And it is supporting multiple ranges of sizes of images from 512 pixels to 4K, and all while allowing you to maintain richer texture, sharper details, better lighting, and whatever aspect ratio you want. And it is already available through the entire Google ecosystem. So wherever you're currently using Gemini, you can use Nano Banana too. And it comes with its state-of-the-art Synth ID technology that allows to detect that it is AI generated. And it also supports C2PA content credentials, again, stating that it is AI generated.

41:43In an additional push this week, Google also done a major upgrade to Google Flow, which is its creative suite. It is completely redesigned with a completely new interface, and it now integrates and consolidates formally separate tools like WISC and ImageFX for image generation, plus the new Nano Banana for the image generation into a single workspace that enables seamless creation, refinement, and composition workflows, including image generation and video as well. In addition to the fact they're combining multiple tools together into one unified environment, it has enhanced editing and precision capabilities, and they've combined some cool graphic capabilities like lasso tool selection together with text editing capabilities where you can prompt it what to change or what to grab and remove objects from images and or video clips all within the same environment.

42:31They completely re-managed the asset grid, so you can now search, filter and sort much better on across all the assets that you have for the creation. So overall, they've created an extremely powerful image and video generation and manipulation capability. And the image generation capability is currently free inside of Flow, while the more advanced capability and the video generation are now a premium product that you have to pay for. This makes perfect sense. It allows you to drag in and get started, and then you have to pay once you take the next steps, but kudos to Google for taking a very big step into delivering a highly capable video and image generation platform under the Gemini umbrella.

43:09Very interesting piece of news comes from XAI's Grok, and its application has experienced a huge surge of downloads in 2026, with downloads reaching almost 9.6 million downloads, which is a 27 % increase from just two months ago. Now, to make it even more interesting, as of January, 2026, Grok's US market share has climbed to 17.8%, which is a big increase from the 14 % in December of 2025. And even more impressive is it only held 1.9 % in January of 2025. So in one year, it jumped from less than 2 % to almost 20 % of the US market. Globally, Grok has crossed the 100 million downloads across the App Store and Google Play, and the app is currently used by 60 million monthly active users as of January 2026.

44:01And Grok also has estimated 314 million websites visits worldwide in January, which makes it the fourth consecutive month of growth, of significant growth, and it's now placing it as the third most used AI tool, passing the Chinese DeepSeek, pushing it to number four. OpenAI has had interesting news this week about its compute for the long future and the near future as well. There are a lot of rumors that their Stargate program has stalled and basically not moving forward. But in addition, OpenAI has drastically reduced its projected compute spending by the year of 2030 from its initial$1.3 trillion to approximately$600 billion.

44:40That's a 57 % cut. And it's driven by investor demand for financial discipline and the very high risk they're taking. If you listen to the episode last week where I shared the insights from Dario Amadei from Anthropic, he said that even if they'll be wrong by 20%, so still growing like a crazy amount, there's nobody that will bail them because we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. And I think that OpenAI are realizing this right now. And so they cut their projections for the spending on AI compute drastically in the next few years. By the way, they also updated their projected revenue up dramatically, and they're expecting to generate$280 billion by the year of 2030, split roughly 50-50 between consumer and enterprise segments.

45:28But they're still burning through huge amounts of cash, and so reducing the risks makes perfect sense. Another news from OpenAI is they just signed a$10 billion chip purchase agreement with Cerebrus systems. So those of you who don't know Cerebrus, they're a competitor to Rock with a Q that we talked about multiple times on this podcast. Both these companies generate chips that are specialized in inference. So you cannot use them to train new models, but they are generating tokens or words or the outputs of AI systems significantly faster and cheaper than what you can do on regular GPUs. Both companies use similar technological concepts to deliver the much faster and cheaper output.

46:13Grok with the Q, the other company, the competitor, was just acqui-hired by NVIDIA for$20 billion. And so that left Cerebras as the only standing company that is a standalone company that can deliver this kind of capability. By the way, you can still use Grok chips and buy Grok chips, but the leadership team is now a part of NVIDIA with NVIDIA getting access to the IP in the next few years as well. And this is one of the means that OpenAI can diversify their chip access. And it's also showing you that the world is shifting from a world in which training models is the most important thing to a world in which delivering the model's output is getting more and more important because the models are already crazy good.

46:54And now it's about meeting the growing demand for delivering tokens or the outputs of these AI models. The next topic is what you might want to focus or what you, in this case, tell your kids to focus on as far as 20 careers with the lowest automation risk in 2026. In a recent analysis done by Forbes, they have identified the 20 careers with the lowest automation risk in 2026, primarily these that demand critical human judgment, composure under pressure, and emotional intelligence. The top five careers that they have identified for being insulated from AI automation in 2026 are anesthesia nurses, emergency physicians, judges, general surgeons, and commercial pilots.

47:37What they're saying is that career that are resistant to AI automation relay on human judgment, accountability, and the ability to maintain composure under pressure. Eight out of those 20 roles come from the healthcare space, together with aviation and high-level leadership position, such as chief information officer and stuff like that. Now, while these findings make a lot of sense, obviously. There are two serious issues with those findings. One is that all of these professions require very long and very expensive training and education programs. If you want to become a nurse, or if you want to become a pilot, or if you want to become a judge, it's not something you can do this year.

48:15It's something that will take you six or seven years to do. And by then, maybe AI will be able to do that as well. The other problem is think about what percentage of global jobs are these jobs? It is minuscule. So the question is, let's say you do invest in becoming a judge or a pilot or a nurse or a doctor. And let's say for a second that AI doesn't learn how to do this in the next six or seven years, how many people are actually required in these positions so you will actually find a job? And the answer is not very high. What is important is this, and that connects back to what I think our education system has to start focusing on is what skills does this new future require in order to be successful when AI does most of the actual work.

49:00So things like critical thinking, problem solving, communication, collaboration, strategic thinking, emotional intelligence, system thinking, the ability to change context very, very quickly to be able to manage multiple things at any given time because the agents don't stop and you can manage as many of them as you want, as long as you can be able to deal with the context changes. So these are the things that we need to start teaching ourselves and our kids in order to be successful in the future with AI. Another interesting study related to the future comes from Anthropic AI Fluency Index. And what they found is that the better polished the output of the AI is, the less likely it is to be checked for accuracy.

49:40Now, that obviously is not surprising. When you look at a work that looks professional, it just looks professional. And then we tend to assume that it is also good, which is the biggest fallacy of AI. It is really good at generating beautiful, well-structured, concise outputs, but the data may be completely made up. As we know, hallucinations are still a big deal. So keep on checking your work, even if it looks fantastic. Now, the research also revealed that more than 85 % of users iterate and refine their work, which dramatically increases the level of the output and the level of accuracy of the output because of these iteration steps through the process.

50:18And users who iterate were 5.6 times more likely to question Claude's reasoning and four times more likely to identify missing context. What does that mean? Something that I've been teaching in my courses for the last three years, and I'm still focusing on, do not give the AI huge tasks, work together with the AI, step by step by step, so you can see what the progress is and you can measure whether it's going in the right direction and whether the information is accurate, not at the final job, which will make it almost impossible to review and analyze, but on a iterative process. Another interesting thing that I actually do regularly, and I'm surprised that so few people are doing, they found that only 30 % of users explicitly told Claude how to interact with them.

51:00So in many cases, tell the AI, especially working on bigger projects, or I already have system prompts that do this out of the box, how I would like the engagement to work, which files it needs to read, how does it need to respond, what does it need to request approval for, all these things I define in advance before every task with Claude Cowork, and then our collaboration is significantly better. And Anthropic found the same exact thing, that the collaboration and the output becomes significantly better when you establish the rules of engagement between yourself and the AI tools that you're using.

51:28The last two items we're going to discuss has to do with the stock market and financial results of companies and where the stock market might be going. And something actually very interesting is happening, and this is a comparison done by the information, which is a great source for data about what's happening in different companies. NVIDIA has posted its fiscal revenue of$216 billion with net profit of$120 billion, which is 55.6 % net margin, which is incredible. And it is significantly higher than AMD's 12 % or Broadcom's 36 % margins. The company also generated$96 billion in free cashflow in this fiscal year up from$61 billion in the previous fiscal year.

52:10So this is a 50 % growth on multiple billions of dollars in just a single year. To put things in perspective, Alphabet generated$73 billion of free cash flow. Microsoft generated$73 billion of cash flow. Meta generated$43 billion and Amazon 7.7. NVIDIA is continuing to be a machine that just prints crazy amount of cash. The only company that is generating more cash than them right now is Apple with$123 billion in free cash flow. Now, another company that they compared it to is Salesforce with their AgentForce capability. And while AgentForce has grown to$800 million in annualized recurring revenue, up from$500 million in Q3 of last year, so a big growth in one quarter, it represents only 1.7 % of the projected fiscal year 2027 total revenue of the company of$46 billion.

53:04So they have invested a lot in both the technology and the marketing and the rebranding around AgentForce, and yet it is generating a negligible portion of their actual revenue. Now, the other aspect is that there seems to be revenue cannibalization concerns in Salesforce, with CFO Robin Washington attributing the slowdown to weakness in marketing, commerce, and Tableau, which basically saying that some of the AI growth offsets the decline in other aspects of the business, which it might be replacing. So even though they've generated$800 million, they may have lost more money in other departments because now people can do with AI what they previously did with other tools.

53:45I think very similar things are going to happen to other software companies where agents will replace a lot of their functionality, whether they're agents or third-party agents. Either way, it's not going to be pretty. And going about not looking pretty, a viral substack post from Citrini Research is depicting an apocalyptic AI-driven economic collapse that will drive a significant market sell-off. So the scenario that they are describing is going to evolve in the next few years, in the next three years, if you want to be specific. And it's broken into five stages. It begins with AI agents, which we already see, like Cloud Code and OpenAI Codex, removing economic friction, threatening SaaS companies like we've seen in the past few weeks.

54:29Stage two depicts white-collar unemployment as AI handles more and more tasks that previously was done by humans. We've been talking about this for a year and I've been very, very loud about this in the past few months. Stage three imagines private credit defaults and software debt and mortgage crisis, basically because people and software companies do not have the money to pay for whatever credit they took previously. Stage four is just reinforcing this with downward spirals because now there's no money in the system. There's this lending, there's this money to pay off and so on and so forth.

55:03So just downward spiral. And what they're anticipating is that in late 2027, the market may crash with the stock market losing 57 % of its value. Now there's many analysts that criticized it and even called it doomsday porn that resonates with readers, but they're cautioning, treating it as a real logical advice. Another person, Stefan Einz, managing partner at SPI Asset Management, noted that it's a disproportionate market impact. And he said, and I'm quoting, we have watched this market absorb warp, sticky inflation, banking tremors, and tariffs with a shrug. Yet a widely circulated SAP stack thought piece is enough to knock it sideways.

55:44Well, here's what my thoughts are. My thoughts are that these so-called analysts have no clue what's coming. They do not understand the capabilities that AI represents. They do not understand that many, many, many people will lose their job. And I've been saying that for a very long time. You do not need huge unemployment numbers in order to completely collapse the markets. The unemployment rate peaked at 14 % in the 2008 crisis. The unemployment peaked at 20 % in the Great Depression 100 years ago. And in both cases, it brought the global economy to a halt for a few years. And I think this time around, it is going to be a lot more significant, A, because I think it's going to be a broader scale than 10 to 20 percent, and B, because people who make$100 ,000,$200 ,000,$300 ,000 will lose their jobs, and not just people who make$30 ,000, $40 ,000,$50 ,000.

56:36And every one of those high earners who is out of jobs is pulling a lot more money out of the economy. And hence, I think the impact is going to be significantly more severe. Do I think we will survive it and we'll be prosperous in the long run? Probably. But I think we're getting very quickly into some very turbulent times in the economy, in the society, and in everything else because of the pace AI is moving. I apologize that this particular episode is not very positive. There are a lot of interesting things that are happening. The technology itself is fascinating. But I'd rather you being aware of what I believe is happening and evolving rather than trying to sugarcoat it and tell you that everything is butterflies and unicorns when I personally believe it is not.

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In this episode, we break down the explosive acceleration of AI agents — from Claude’s new remote control and scheduled workflows to research showing escalating autonomous behavior — and what it means for your organization, workforce, and competitive edge.

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