In short
How to create a holiday spending plan now (before December) to avoid credit-card debt, reduce pressure, and prioritize meaningful activities.
Guests and backgrounds
Bethel Hapti, accredited financial counselor; Chidozi Ibubuchi, financial therapist and married to Jasmine Ramirez Iboguchi; Nero Feliciano, licensed clinical social worker and author of All is Calm-ish; Wendy De La Rosa, behavioral scientist at Wharton (UPenn); Tiffany Dodson Davis, beauty editor at Harper’s Bazaar; Scott Keyes, founder/chief flight expert at Going.com (Scott’s Cheap Flights).
Key claims
Start early; build a baseline budget and retrospective; spread costs over months; prioritize “big swings”; choose cheaper/later/not-at-all options; connection beats expensive gifts; travel is often cheaper in January.
Notable examples
Buying a LaCroix ornament in summer for a coworker; saving $50/week or $50/month; lowering retirement contributions temporarily (as a possible lever); baking cookies as a meaningful moment; FaceTime instead of toys; limiting gifts to parents/grandparents; January 8th as a low-flight-price window; hosting a winter gathering in January.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Importance of Planning Ahead
0:00 to 0:18
Understanding the necessity of budgeting for holiday spending early.
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The Importance of Planning Ahead
0:45 to 2:36
Understanding the necessity of budgeting for holiday spending early.
“It's always a good time to think about future spending, especially because you can do a lot more when you have more time.”
Takeaway 1: Establish a Baseline
2:36 to 7:43
How to determine your monthly income and essential expenses for budgeting.
“And that's how much you can afford to budget for holiday expenses, including travel, gifts, seasonal activities, a little sleigh ride, and hosting gatherings.”
Takeaway 3: Prioritize Your Spending
7:43 to 12:36
Understanding how to spend your budget on what matters most during holidays.
“Okay, takeaway three is to choose your big swings.”
Takeaway 4: Creative Gifting Strategies
12:36 to 14:00
Exploring meaningful gifts that don’t strain your budget during holidays.
“comes from Tiffany Dodson Davis, a beauty editor at Harper's Bazaar.”
Sentimental Gifts and Practical Help
14:00 to 14:50
Learn about meaningful and budget-friendly gift ideas for the holidays.
“perhaps maybe a simple gift like that represents a family member that maybe passed away or perhaps an heirloom within your family that's being passed down can be super sentimental.”
Travel Tips for the Holidays
14:50 to 15:49
Discover why holiday travel can be challenging and when to avoid it.
“Scott Keyes is the founder and chief flight expert at Going.com, formerly known as Scott's Cheap Flights.”
Planning Gatherings in January
15:49 to 16:21
Understand the benefits of hosting winter gatherings after the holidays.
“depending on your route and if you're traveling domestically or internationally, but still, worth considering.”
Key Takeaways for Holiday Budgeting
16:21 to 17:28
Get essential tips on managing your finances as the holidays approach.
“All right, y 'all, it's time for a recap.”
Transcript
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0:25You're listening to Life Kit. I'm Mariel Cigarra. Now, if I'm you, maybe I'm thinking budgeting for the holidays. It's a little early, don't you think? The pumpkins and the skeletons haven't even come out yet. But when I asked this very question to accredited financial counselor Bethel Hapti, she said a hard... No.
0:48It's always a good time to think about future spending, especially because you can do a lot more when you have more time. Let me just set a goal here for us. Knowing what we know about credit card debt, how high those interest rates are, how the debt can snowball, let's plan ahead so we don't accumulate debt in December that we'll have to pay off in 2027. That is the ideal scenario, is that the money that you're spending is just the money that you're spending instead of the money you're spending plus interest to credit card companies in January and February. On this episode of Life Kit, how to create a holiday spending plan now.
1:29Starting with takeaway one, get a baseline. Bethel says a lot of the people she talks to don't actually know how much money they bring home every month after taxes and health insurance premiums and retirement contributions. So that's the first number you want to know. That pot of money per month. And then I think even fewer people beyond that know the amount that they need to run their life. rent, transportation, those fixed expenses, but also those variable expenses that are pretty consistently high and necessary, daycare, groceries. Also include any debt payments. And that's your second number, the bare minimum you spend on necessities.
2:10Then you're going to do the math, the big pot of money minus the second number. Okay, what's left? That's the number that you'll be able to use for your fund spending, discretionary spending in the month, or that's the money that will go towards savings. So creating even that rough and tumble baseline budget is really important. Now you've got about three months, a little more, to save up for the holidays. So multiply that number by three. That's how much you're working with. And that's how much you can afford to budget for holiday expenses, including travel, gifts, seasonal activities, a little sleigh ride, and hosting gatherings.
2:50It's a bit of an overestimate though because you also need to consider the non-necessities that you're already spending money on. You probably don't want to skip out on everything that's fun for three months just to ball out over the holidays, but maybe you do. That is up to you. Now let's get a little more information by doing a retrospective. Look back at your credit card and bank statements and figure out how much money you spent on the holidays last year. Can you afford to spend that much again without taking on debt? Also consider what did you spend the money on and how do you feel now about having spent money on those things?
3:26How happy were you with those purchases? Like were those expenditures actually aligned with how you want to spend in the holiday season? Okay, takeaway two, spread out your holiday expenses. As we talked about, one way to do this is to start saving money now that you can use on holiday gifts and travel and events come late November, December. If you're currently setting aside money in a savings account, you might just label some of it differently. You know, this is for holiday spending. Chidozi Ibubuchi is a financial therapist and gave us this advice in an episode about saving up for big events like a friend's wedding.
4:05Maybe it could be$50 a week or$50 a month. That adds up to how much you think you may spend. And that's a really cool automatic way to start saving towards these expenses. You can also look at your discretionary spending and cut back so you can save more. Maybe you don't book the expensive weekend trip this fall. Or you do yoga at home with YouTube videos rather than going to classes. Or you cancel the streaming subscription that you don't use. Really getting a sense of what your non-essential spending is each month and if you can make some sacrifices there to save more. I asked Bethel, what about temporarily decreasing the amounts you're saving for retirement, as long as you set a reminder to reverse those changes come New Year's?
4:51She wasn't a huge fan of that plan, but says it might be an option for some. I mean, look, when I was paying off my student loans very rigorously, I had like 60K in student loan debt that I killed in two years. And during that time, I just went down to the company match so I wouldn't lose the free money that was on the table from that. And then after that, I went back up. So that is certainly a lever that people choose to pull. The other thing you can do is spread the actual spending out. For instance, buy gifts now. Wow. I remember I took a trip to LA and I saw something that was perfect for a coworker.
5:32She would always get these like crate fulls of LaCroix delivered to the office. And I saw this really cute LaCroix ornament. It was adorable. And I was like, this is a perfect little thing for the holidays. And so I just, I bought it then and there in like the summertime. And I took it with me back to the East Coast, and I gave it to her at Christmastime. I have a box of gifts under my bed, and when the holidays come, I am so glad that I already found and paid for presents for my family. Now that you have a sense of your finances, how do you actually want to spend this holiday season? We'll help you figure that out after the break.
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7:43Okay, takeaway three is to choose your big swings. You know now basically how much money you're working with. But how do you prioritize? Bethel says you want to make sure your plan, your holiday budget, reflects what you care about the most. One strategy is to imagine what a perfect holiday season actually looks like for you. To say, like, this would happen and that would happen and I would be able to make it to these parties and I would be able to make this trip. And I would feel really calm. And I would really do this one activity because it makes me feel really good. Nero Feliciano is a licensed clinical social worker.
8:23She wrote a book called All is Calm-ish about the pressure to do it all over the holidays. And I think the question we have to ask is, okay, what is really important in this season? And what's taking away from the things that are the most meaningful parts of the holiday? And what can I let go of in this season? We all want to feel connected in this season. And there's so many things that steal that ability from us in trying to make this perfect for so many people and create those memories. Nero suggests that you think about three activities that you don't have to do, but that you get to do this holiday season.
9:01The stuff you're actually excited about. Here's one of hers. Even things like I get to bake cookies this year, which sometimes seems like a chore for me. Part of that is because I know my daughter's coming home from college. And now I recognize the value of having all my kids under my roof. It's not something that I take for granted anymore. You can also name three moments that you want to be truly present for. Maybe it is that Christmas morning or that dinner with the family or at the concert that you're attending. and in that moment put away your phones as much as you can and really show up for it with as much as you can bring in that moment and I think that's a good start.
9:44Notice many of these things don't require you to spend big money and they might also help you feel less pressure to do everything all out for the holidays. Maybe instead you could try to get a little bit of rest. We have an episode on seven different kinds of rest. Take a look at that to see what kind you might be craving the most.
10:07All right, next up, takeaway four. Choose what you're going to do cheaper, later, or not at all. Your budget is going to come in really handy here. You've already done the math. You know what you can afford to spend. And you know what's most important to you. So when you get an invite or you feel social pressure to buy something, ask yourself, is this in my budget? And keep in mind, your budget is not going to be the same as everyone else's. Jasmine Ramirez Iboguchi, married to Chidozi Iboguchi, the financial therapist, is a licensed clinical social worker who focuses on money and mental health.
10:43There's seasons for spending, seasons for saving, and be mindful of what season you might be in. You might be in a different season than a friend or a family member, and just lean into it. A reminder here, pretty much all the activities you do and purchases you make for the holiday season are optional. Though it doesn't always feel that way. Wendy De La Rosa is a behavioral scientist at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School. We posed a question to her once from a listener who had 18 nieces and nephews, many of whom she wasn't close with. And she was wondering if she needed to buy all of them presents.
11:17I would ask the letter writers to say, like, what are your values? Like, how do you want these children to feel? Like, do you even want to be a significant part of their lives? If the answer is yes, then let's think about creative ways in which you can show up for them that doesn't leave you in financial ruin. Like, you know, how can you organize a family gathering at your place or at a park where you're organizing everything and you give all the children just like an awesome memory? Wendy says the real gift here is the gift of connection. It's more important to do a FaceTime on your niece's birthday than give her a toy that, let's be honest, she's going to be over in five minutes.
12:00And hey, this strategy also happens to save you money. Then you have sort of created a boundary for yourself as to how you're going to show up. So you're not perpetually suffering and putting yourself, you know, over the coals of saying, I'm not doing enough for X, Y, Z. hey, no, you've done the internal hard work to say, there's only X number of dollars in my bank account. I only have X limited amount of attention. I am purposely going to decide to invest in these relationships. And I'm very clear-eyed about it. Some more advice on how to handle gifts in big families comes from Tiffany Dodson Davis, a beauty editor at Harper's Bazaar.
12:40She says you could limit the number of people you're giving gifts to. Like, I'm only going to give gifts to my parents or my parents and grandparents. or only to my significant other. Also, she says, you don't have to spend a lot of money to give a meaningful gift. And sometimes it feels even more special to celebrate big moments with small gestures of appreciation. Like, for instance, my sister, this is not really holiday related, but it's gift related. But my sister recently moved into a new home and I surprised her with a bundle of small kitchen utensils that she didn't realize that she needed, like a whisk and a spatula.
13:18But yeah, she was really touched and it really meant a lot to her, even though, you know, the gift itself didn't cost me too much, but it, you know, made her transition a little easier. And I think those are really strong starting points to think about when shopping for other people. And then also, I think, you know, a homemade gift is a great option as well and something that shouldn't be rolled out, you know? Tiffany's fiance hand wrote her a poem and framed it. And then he gave it to me one year on Christmas and it's still one of the most special gifts that I've ever received from him. I've actually done something similar.
13:51I found a poem that my mom wrote in her high school newsletter, wrote it out by hand, framed it, and then framed an illustration to match. I think perhaps maybe a simple gift like that represents a family member that maybe passed away or perhaps an heirloom within your family that's being passed down can be super sentimental. And I think just telling the story that accompanies the gift can be an emotional experience for the recipient and the giver. Bethel says another gift that you can offer on a budget is your time and labor. Like helping your mom like clear out the attic because she keeps asking you to do that.
14:35And it It would actually be a huge gift to her to actually get this thing off of the to-do list for her. The other thing to keep in mind is that a lot of the stuff we cram into December is doable in January and February and is often cheaper. Scott Keyes is the founder and chief flight expert at Going.com, formerly known as Scott's Cheap Flights. He understands why people travel at Thanksgiving and the December holidays. But from a travel perspective, it's one of the worst times to travel from disruptions to crowds to the price of the flights. My secret best advice for travel over the holidays is if at all possible, just don't do it.
15:16Scott says if you can wait and travel in January, you will probably have a much better experience and save money. My favorite date of the entire year is around January 8th. I circle that date on the calendar because whereas flight prices really get inflated over the Christmas, New Year period, around January 8th, they just fall off a cliff from the most expensive time of the entire year to the absolute cheapest. Caveats here, the exact date in January for the cheapest flights can vary, depending on your route and if you're traveling domestically or internationally, but still, worth considering.
15:56Oh, and merriment, by the way, we are allowed to have that year-round. And boy, do we need it come January, when the Christmas lights come down and our homes lose some of their sparkle. Why not plan a winter gathering in January instead of a big holiday dinner in December? That way you can spread out the cost even more, and you won't have to pay extra for those napkins with the snazzy little gingerbread man on them. I know, super cute, but do you need them?
16:26All right, y 'all, it's time for a recap. Take away one, get a baseline, figure out how much you actually bring home every month and the amount that you need to spend on necessities, subtract the smaller number from the bigger number, and see what you have left. You've got about three months to save up for the holidays. That's how much you could potentially save every month. Also do a retrospective. See how much you spent last year and whether you can actually afford to do that again. Takeaway two, spread out your holiday expenses. Start saving money now and start actually buying stuff now, like plane tickets if that's relevant for you or gifts.
17:04Takeaway three, choose your big swings. You got to prioritize. Think about what's most important to you this holiday season. And takeaway four, choose what you're going to do cheaper, later, or not at all. Just because it's important to somebody else doesn't mean it has to be a priority for you. And your budget may be tighter than somebody else's. That's okay. Just know what you're working with. And remember that some of the things we think we have to do in December, we can actually do any other time, including January and February, which, from what I recall, tend to be pretty bleak. don't you think we could use a little sparkle
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