In short
Bert Kreischer discusses how his “machine” story was born, evolved, and went viral; why he keeps telling it; how comedy and entertainment business models have changed (road vs TV/sitcoms, podcasting, marketing); and his current sobriety/“treats” routine, including cigars and “Churchill Day.” He also talks about being a fan, sharing interests, and building trust with other comedians.
Guests
Bert Kreischer (comedian; became famous after a 1997 Rolling Stone article branding him the top party animal/partier; known for the “machine” story; tours arenas; co-created Netflix’s Unstable with his son; sober, uses edibles sometimes). Host Rob Lowe (actor; interviews Kreischer).
Key claims
The “machine” story started after he first told it on Love Line, then improved through repeated telling; Rogan pushed him to perform it on stage; it took years to “have an ending,” which he found in Columbus. A contract allowed only four clips, but he posted more, helping it go viral (tens of millions views). He says road work pays far more than sitcom/TV now.
Notable examples
Russia trip betrayal; Love Line with Dr. Drew; Rogan yelling “machine”; Ron White’s “tater salad” as a benchmark story; Steely Dan documentary “Making of Asia”; Churchill Day at Blenheim Palace; Elliot Gould improv anecdote; meeting Joe Rogan via Heineken/JD shots.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBert's Early Days and The Machine Story
0:17 to 0:27
Bert shares the origins of his famous 'machine' story.
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Bert's Early Days and The Machine Story
2:02 to 2:36
Bert shares the origins of his famous 'machine' story.
“I never thought in a million years that I'd be talking to you.”
The Evolution of The Machine Story
2:36 to 4:48
Bert discusses how his story evolved over time and audience reactions.
Going Viral and Its Impact
4:48 to 6:44
Bert reflects on the viral success of his story and its significance.
“The story didn't have an end that cause I thought the end was tonight you party with us.”
The Importance of Storytelling
6:44 to 9:21
Bert and Rob discuss the significance of storytelling in comedy.
“I think on all platforms, it's at 88 million.”
The Pressure of Performing Hits
9:21 to 11:28
Discussing the balance between performing hits and new material.
Fan Moments and Celebrity Experiences
11:28 to 13:14
The conversation shifts to personal fan experiences and admiration.
“And he's like, and it's like, and the corner of my, I saw you at Rubies.”
The Joy of Sharing Interests
13:14 to 14:00
Bert shares insights about the joy in being a fan and sharing passions.
The Joy of Being a Fan
14:00 to 17:17
Exploring the excitement of fandom and sharing interests with others.
The Joy of Being a Fan
17:39 to 19:05
Exploring the excitement of fandom and sharing interests with others.
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Sober Reflections and Life Choices
19:05 to 24:29
Discussion on sobriety, temptation, and the realities of celebrity life.
“I mean, you're, I literally, I was talking to my wife and, uh, I was talking to her this morning and she goes, she goes, Rob fucking low.”
Celebrating Life with Unique Experiences
24:29 to 28:00
The value of creating memorable experiences and events in life.
“I like having things to look forward to.”
Bert's Bachelor Party Adventures
28:00 to 29:20
Bert shares humorous stories from his bachelor party experiences.
“I had the same with when I, I had the same trying to figure out some for my wife's birthday.”
Reflections on Hollywood Fame
29:20 to 30:40
A discussion on the changing landscape of fame and celebrity culture in Hollywood.
“When I was running wild, that's the other part is I don't regret it because I feel like I left nothing on the table.”
Rob's Career Highlights and Comedy
30:40 to 31:50
Rob talks about his career, the acknowledgement of his comedic talent, and a new project.
Generational Changes in Acting
31:50 to 33:40
Discussion on the evolving roles actors play across different life stages.
“And I was so relieved and so happy because that's what I love.”
Generational Changes in Acting
34:55 to 35:12
Discussion on the evolving roles actors play across different life stages.
“I've lost 75 pounds in 20 months with GLP-1s, plus diet and exercise.”
Honorary Titles and Family Legacy
35:28 to 36:40
Rob discusses his honorary titles and reflects on family dynamics.
“People at their best get their beauty rest for 100 years.”
Bert's Rolling Stone Article Experience
36:40 to 39:40
Bert recounts the story of how he became the subject of a Rolling Stone article.
“And he goes, I think I found the right guy.”
The Evolution of Comedy and Stand-Up
39:40 to 42:00
Discussion on how the comedy business has changed over time and its implications.
“Like that was the only person ever doing arena.”
The Evolution of Comedy and Podcasting
42:00 to 44:18
Explore how the landscape of comedy and podcasting has changed over the years.
“I got two, I got my cooking show, two podcasts and my road work.”
Joe Rogan: A Testament to Trust and Friendship
44:18 to 47:06
Hear the story of how Bert Kreischer and Joe Rogan became close friends.
Challenges in Comedy and Improv
47:06 to 50:41
Discuss the struggles of creating comedy and the importance of improvisation.
“Like Elliot Gould tried to become my friend.”
A Fan's Appreciation
50:41 to 50:56
Rob Lowe expresses his admiration for Bert Kreischer.
“This has been super, super, super fun, man.”
Listener Questions and Podcast Recommendations
50:56 to 53:48
Rob Lowe answers listener questions and shares his podcast preferences.
“And by the way, I know he's a storyteller and a great raconteur.”
Transcript
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1:20Rob Lowe:Hey, everybody. Welcome to Literally. It is your humble host, Rob Lowe. So in 1997, Rolling Stone does an article about the biggest party school in the world and picks one guy in particular as the biggest partier at the partiest school in the world. And that launches Bert Kreischer. From those humble beginnings, this guy has accomplished so much in comedy, but is literally playing the Greek theater in Los Angeles and baseball stadiums and arenas. And if that isn't the magic of show business, I don't know what else is. Let's get into it with Bert Kreischer.
2:11I never thought in a million years that I'd be talking to you.
2:14Rob Lowe:Do you remember the first time you told the machine story? Was it one of those things where you're like drinking beers with the dudes and you're like told the story and everybody laughed and you went, hey, maybe there's something there. No, no. So this will get into the weeds. But so when I went to Russia. No, weeds are what we live in the weeds. We live in literally in the weeds. This is where we live. um when i when i was in russia i then backpacked through europe and uh and my girlfriend cheated on me with my best friend while i was there so when i came home that was my reality i didn't tell anyone the machine story i kind of it was like i didn't tell any stories about how was your trip because i was like i was literally the town cuck so everyone knew they'd been hooking up all summer and everyone knew it and so that was what i talked about that's all i ever talked about was getting cheated on i was doing love line with dr drew random and uh someone from my class called in and said why don't you tell drew about the time you robbed your class in russia and i went oh yeah yeah yeah and drew's like what wait what and i said when i was 22 i got involved with the russian mafia he's like what and i told the story for the very first time on love line like the very first time ever i was and then he made me come back the next night and tell it again he was like tell it again and the next night it got better it was better because that's how a story works is you you start to you remember things a little better you you know that you can lead in with certain things and then i told it two more times one on elliot in the morning one on my buddy cow head show and then on rogan and i knew i could tell it but it was like i didn't know if it was gonna be i i just it was like a story i'd tell friends um but after i told on rogan then joe was like you need to tell this on stage and i was like oh it's not a stage story and he was like no no and he said on his show which was at the time becoming wildly popular i don't think any of us knew it but he's like from now on this man is only to be known as a machine and you need to yell out the machine when he's on stage and force him to tell this story and that weekend i was in columbus ohio and they were yelling the machine through my whole show and i was like guys i'm not telling it And this dude in the front row goes, Bert, you have to tell it.
4:28This is your story. Don't worry. We'll fake laugh, but you have to tell it so it'll get good. And so I told that story for about, honestly, probably a year before it got remotely good and four years before it got like, like real good. And then, and then, uh, and then, cause I didn't have an ending to the story. The story didn't have an end that cause I thought the end was tonight you party with us. I thought that way and it just didn't ever delivered the pop that I wanted it to and then one night in Columbus Ohio random I was back in Columbus Ohio and I was telling the story and there was one part where he spits vodka in her eyes and shuts the door and I was like you know he should say something there and they had this thing they would say all the time all the time was this is Russia this isn't America this is Russia and he was like fuck that bitch this is russia and then i was like oh i have an end of the story i have an end of the story the cop the cop when he goes tonight you party with us i just go i'm not in trouble and he leans in close so i could smell his morning cigarette and he goes no fuck that bitch this is russia like and i was like and then the story had an end they clapped and it was good and i was like now i can and then i recorded it for my showtime special and then and then by the way we want to get really into the weeds did not misread my contract posted that was allowed to post four clips i posted like 35 minutes of this hour special 45 minutes of this hour special on facebook and the machine
5:55Rob Lowe:was one of the clips and i went viral wow so a nice mistake worked out in your favor oh it was it was all i mean i remember the day it was crazy the day it went viral uh i remember my wife was like i think your story's going viral and i was like no i was because i always i always say should i know how to work the internet that and and i looked at it and i was like no that's got to be wrong it says i think the very first time i looked at it said like 700 000 views and i was like no that can't be right i've never gotten that many views and then i refreshed the page and it was at a million and i went hold on hold on hold on and then that night i got in bed with leanna she was like no for real it's going viral and she showed me the video and it was three million and it was just it was like anytime you refreshed it you get another another 500 000 another 700 000 and uh and right now it's i I think on all platforms, it's at 88 million.
6:47Rob Lowe:In the terms of great stories, what else even comes close? Can you think of anybody who has, I mean, everybody goes, have you ever heard Robin Williams talk about golf? That's one people like to talk about. I mean, there are people's bits that are just classic like that. I'm trying to think of what do you have favorites? Ron White's tater salad story is one of my favorite stories ever. Ron White changed the way I did stand up in a lot of ways because my wife's a redneck so we went and saw the Blue Collar Comedy Tour in theaters we saw it in theaters and when he told that story I was like that's the perfect that is the perfect story Jay Larson has an amazing story about getting called into a wrong number there's some really great stories I get to hear a lot of them but Ron White changed the way I did because I heard that story and I was like that was more my natural when I first started in stand up I was more like I talked about going to Disneyland on acid and getting off, getting to a fight, uh, at a school.
7:44And like, I was more of a storyteller when I saw that I said, yeah, I think I should lean into the stories. And I did. But the one thing that changed the most, and this is the weirdest part is I watched Ron perform and I was like, Oh, I hope he tells tater salad. And he didn't. And I remember the feeling as a fan going like, God, it's my favorite story. I wish he would have told it. And I was a comedian too. So I had the opportunity to talk to him. And I said, I was, he, I was like you're hilarious I wish you had told tater salad and he goes I don't tell it anymore I said why not and he goes I don't want to and I was like I was like wow and as a fan I was like that really bums me out like I would definitely pay for like 20 tickets so that my family could hear that story because I'd love to show that story to my family it's one of the best stories ever and then as a comic I went when I went to retire the machine story people said to me in the audience uh that's the only reason we're here I brought 20 people to hear that story and I was like okay so i'll do it for this run and and uh and then i'll retire it but then the venues just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger and then it was clubs and it was rock venues then it was theaters and now it's arenas and so i i keep figuring as long as this this this uh this builds and it gets bigger i'll just keep telling because i don't want to you know i i've had comics tell me to stop telling it like comics like friends going man you should you should retire it and then they go and they do like uh a baseball we do baseball baseball parks over the summer there's a tour called fully loaded and one of my and the best comics in the country do it with me and uh every single one of them go the pop when you say when i was 22 years old i got involved with the rest mafia like dude you can't stop telling my story you just got to keep telling it until and i'll tell it until the day i die i'll be shirtless at 75 take just going when i was trying
9:30Rob Lowe:me too it's the same for bands yeah like i'm sure they get tired they think about retiring the hit the big hit you know what i mean and you see bands like that where you're like i'm just making this up because i've never seen them but like led zeppelin they're not gonna play stairway to heaven i saw steely dan i saw steely dan in at the hollywood bowl by the way huge steely dan fan played same huge huge huge yeah huge me too man he played like four songs you knew and the rest were all stuff new stuff and i was like no and i was like i was like okay and then i don't know i know you're sober but like sometimes when you get high you're like come on man just just take me there like get me there like i want to i want to feel that moment where i look up to the sky and I go this is everything that everyone ever promised me and everyone's singing and he didn't he didn't and that was what's adversely we went and saw Jimmy Buffett the night after I did Red Rocks Jimmy Buffett was at Red Rocks and my wife is not a Jimmy Buffett fan I'm a big Jimmy Buffett fan I grew up in Florida and my wife said uh do you think he'll play Margaritaville and I went oh you've never been to a Jimmy Buffett concert I go baby he's playing it twice jimmy knows what's yeah and and that's i had a conversation with chris porter a fantastic comedian a fantastic mean we were getting high in a bathroom in omaha in his hotel room and he's like so you still tell the machine store i said chris man you'd be shocked how many people don't know who we are like you'd be shocked how many strangers show up in these clubs and i go the next tomorrow night do me a favor say i'm in the back of the room and that i'm i've asked you to tell two of your best your taco bell bit and this bit and he was like okay and he did it and he was like oh man i it murdered it destroyed and he was doing it during the track the check spot but yeah it's like if you go see a band i want to see the hits you know and but now now granted that like someone like bill burr rogan or jim jeffries or like some of my best friends segura um i always i want to see what they're working on you know because i like to see where their brain is and what they're working on but you know if you take me to see ron white i want to see tater salad you know yeah by the way have you as a steely dan fan have you seen the the making of asia that documentary yet oh i'm about to change your life for real yeah so you find it on youtube oh my god they they must have done it it feels like they did it in the mid 90s but it's fagan and becker together and it's a series of making albums so there's the making of rumors there's the making of asia there's the making of i don't know whatever oh my god yeah i see it do you see it yeah i got a part one part two part three part four part five part six it is first of all there's this great moment where my favorite moment is they're they're listening to Black Cow.
12:29Rob Lowe:Oh, my God. And he's like, and it's like, and the corner of my, I saw you at Rubies. You were very high. You were high. And Fane's going, you were high. You were very high. Like he's commenting along with it and being so funny. Yeah. And then they did this whole bit with Michael McDonald where they isolate on Peg. They isolate his vocals. and it's so insane i love that you're doing this because this is something i hang my hat on people you you you don't know how much of a fan i am of yours when good things happen to you i get excited it sounds crazy when you're on rogan i got excited because i've been a rob fan since day one since i'm no way i saw fucking young bloods like i like i was come on dude i i to this day you're not going to remember this moment in your life to this day when i get the girls and we go to school back in the day the my phrase was the same phrase you said after you got in the fight inst elmo's fire and you grabbed the sacks and you looked in your blood off your lip and you look at the group you go let's rock i love i say that to the i say that to the girls all the time let's rock i love it it's just such a great and so i'm a fan so when like when you did you did what was the show you did with Fred Savage oh the grinder my buddy Jared wrote that that was his show but when I saw you on it and I watched you kill it or when I saw you in Tommy Boy like as a fan I feel like I won because my guy is doing great things and so I apply that to my career and the way I look at things I love being a fan of shit I love being into shit like like Jeff Tweedy I'm a big fan of Wilco and uh nikki glazer goes says to me have you ever have you ever heard his living room albums and i'm like what she goes oh oh back in the day for 25 grand his wife had him do living room shows and she'd donate the money to charity and it's all acoustic and it's him messing up and him like starting a song and then forgetting the lyric but it's it's just recorded in living rooms and i the second you show a fan something cool it's the funnest thing it's you know it's the thing i have against bullying my daughter isla is was into anime and she shared that with her friends and they made fun of her and you watched her get small and you go oh that's that's yeah oh it broke my heart because when you share stuff like when you share like hey i'm a big fan of this i hope you like it when you share that you're really sharing who you are with people and and it's and when you connect with someone when you're a fan of someone together like we both like steely dan that energy back and forth is the coolest thing ever and you allow people to do that you give that off but that's the coolest thing about entertainment business is is being able to share that with people like whether it's movies or music or comedy but also it happens to us like i got kids that are i had one kid tell me one time i don't i don't follow sports i've never been to sports comedy is my thing and podcasts and you're my guy and every time you succeed i feel like i picked the right guy and i was like and it made it makes total sense and i feel that way about you it's really cool like i got really excited when you did rogue and i was really fucking excited because i was like yes i'm like for many reasons i'm like i'm obviously i'm really good at crimes with joe but i'm like i'm like oh this is fucking awesome i was like in my head i'm like roblo gets it like he gets it like he's doing like he gets it like oh
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19:05I mean, you're, I literally, I was talking to my wife and, uh, I was talking to her this morning and she goes, she goes, Rob fucking low. I go, yeah. And she goes, if anyone can get you to be sober, it's him.
19:17Rob Lowe:I was going to say, well, I was going to throw down the gauntlet to say, you have this entire podcast to, to convince me to give up my soul. No, no, no, no. This is your time. You have the floor. I'm open. I'm open to everything. It's one day at a time. This might be the day. This might be the day. Today might be the day. You might be the guy. Me, you, and Ben Affleck. Oh, Ben. Ben, Ben, Ben. It stinks because the idea of like, uh, of like when, when, you know, celebrity parties and then they get their shit together and then they're just killing it. But I always go, the idea of them partying is way sexier than the way they actually partied.
20:06Like, like I always think like, oh, it'd be fun to fall off the wagon. Have, have like, have a moment. I've seen dudes fall off the wagon that, that really had problems and it never is as sexy as you want it to be.
20:19Rob Lowe:no i mean look it's all everybody wants to think about how it'd be so hot to be in the south of france and in the 60s and the stones and they're recording in a chateau and you're tying off with keith and and you know but then you don't want to think about you know he's shitting the bed in the morning yeah do you know what i mean he's got blood coming out of his no yeah like you don't You don't ever think of that stuff. Do you ever miss having a drink?
20:53Rob Lowe:No. I think for the first, maybe the first year, year and a half, I did from time to time. And then wine culture started. Oh, yeah. Two things. I've missed a lot. I've missed a lot. And I'm a little, I missed fancy Cuervo. cuervo by the way i i why do you think i only drank cuervo gold i bet you you can do the math yeah yeah that's why yeah oh really that's why cuervo gold was because that steely dan told me to do it you know the uh that that lyric um and what is it uh the cuervo gold the fine colombian yeah make tonight a wonderful thing never was a pot guy oh never was a pot guy i i was never a pot guy um but as i've gotten older like uh i'll take like edibles at the end of the day to like go to sleep oh that's the other thing edibles i mean you know i might get the old the uh the odd pot brownie made by emilio estevas um who was really i mean he was like fucking julia child's with his pot really and and and and i and then i could kind of enjoy it a little bit but i'm i'm feeling like if it had come in a gummy bear oh i might have had a whole other whole other you know vibe going for me we i've i found these really great edibles that are uh there's they got cbd in them and they're very chill and they and they're they let you sleep my recovery on my whoop was like in the 90s and so and and i was and i had the perfect mix i had uh um blanco tequila and a gummy and i was i was like the only problem is i was eating like crazy every time i ate i was like this is the best i've ever had in my life yeah the eating thing that's leading man has to watch that i have i have i have a i have a um i have a viral clip about me saying i'll never quit drinking and uh it i it just was i didn't even mean for it i just was it was like my love letter to alcohol and yeah but for me my thing really is treats like i'm really obsessed with treats like i need a reward in order to work because i work pretty i work pretty hard but if i don't have a treat coming to the end of the day i almost don't have anything to look forward to and i get bummed yeah me me too i just replaced it i i've now it's a cigar or uh so i'm a big cigar guy what do you smoke uh i just had a um a mini churchill um it was i'm trying to think of who made it i think it was romeo and julietta mini church i'm a big tatuaje guy i love tatuaje uh the cojones they have is one of my favorite smokes i got a bunch of rocky patels given to me by an arena um every year i do i celebrate winston churchill day i uh by living the way he lived so i get up at seven in the morning and i have a soft scotch with eggs bacon ham a tomato i eat it in my bed soft scotch and a cigar in bed and i read the paper and take meetings for about three hours uh and then i have champagne at lunch and uh and then cognac at night and i just lived the way he lived and it's really fun it's january 24th i do it every year this year i did it in amsterdam i was in amsterdam at the grand hotel and they came in i had a butler and he came in and he served me breakfast in bed and uh it was it's fucking awesome okay here's what you have to figure out a way to do you have to be playing somewhere near london and you need to go to blenheim palace that's where churchill was born really and blenheim palace is is you if you go there you'll recognize it it's been in a ton of movies it's the most it's sort of considered the most beautiful um palace in in the world and it's still in the same family and i've been there a number of times for um um bird shoots and uh you can see where churchill like literally like the room he was born in and do all that if you could figure out a way to celebrate churchill day at blenheim palace Yeah, that would be great.
25:08That would be super sick. That would be awesome. That would be, I like eventizing life. I like having things to look forward to. Like I love, I'm sure that there's a therapist that could probably break down, very easily whittle down what my problem is. But I love like, I love like when you go, oh, we're all going to Hawaii at the end of the month. And then you get this thing that you're looking forward to and you can talk about it. I love that about everything.
25:33Rob Lowe:and so uh and so like i i because you work you work hard and you travel hard i mean i i get it it's and being there's nothing more brutal than being on the road it's it's it's you know there's been a thousand songs written about it and you know then you're out on the stage for that moment in time and it's it's great i i started doing my own show about four or five four or five years ago i would love to do a q a with you that would be fun oh let's done yeah done all right my team needs to make a note of this. We're going to do a Q &A. Great. You guys listening in there? You're paying attention, right?
26:09Rob Lowe:I'm in the professional studio today, so I can actually see them while I talk to you. But it looks like they're playing Tetris or Nintendo or something. It doesn't look like they're paying a ton of attention, but they say they are. Has Charlie Sheen tried to sue you over a copyright infringement on calling yourself the machine? No, he is not. Well, he should. Because he was the machine. Was he? he was the machine yeah machine oh yeah he was over that was machine that was his thing really and i was like how is charlie not reached out and gone dude dude come on there was uh there was well there's a bunch of machines albert pool host is the machine uh oh yeah the box the boxer uh who was the boxer my wife is my one the one guy my wife is she's in love with well she's in love with the weirdest people uh the boxer was the machine he was uh he was like 49 years old when he won the title he had been to prison bernard hopkins bernard hopkins was the machine he's copywritten it he has the copyright to it and then uh yeah my wife's two cheats are bernard hopkins and dwight yokum dwight yokum with with or without hat uh either or she doesn't care.
27:25She thinks he's gorgeous. She thinks he's the coolest guy. He,
27:30Rob Lowe:his performance in sling blade is one of my favorite performances an actor has ever given. If you haven't seen sling before, I just assume everybody's seen sling blade because Billy Bob Thornton won the Oscar for it. And it's one of the great performances of old time. But Yoakam's work in that is beyond amazing. Yeah. I was going to, I was trying to get him to play at our house for her 52nd birthday. for her birthday. She celebrated her 50th during COVID. So I was going to blow up, but his price point was, uh, pretty hefty. Too much. Oh, like, it's so funny. I had the same with when I, I had the same trying to figure out some for my wife's birthday.
28:11Rob Lowe:And I was like, people charge a lot of money. I'm glad. Good. They should. But you're like, you start going down that list and then you realize why you see the same people at every charity thing. Cause they're like the ones that are, affordable i i wouldn't even do it i i wouldn't do it i would like to if i was going to do anything i'd like to uh attend dudes bachelor parties like that would be fun like like you can hire me to come to your bachelor party and i can just i'll just be there and just hang out with you guys and party with you guys and make it fun that's a good one i bet you could see a lot of stuff uh yeah i went to mark norman is a comedian very funny i went to his bachelor party and i and i was the only one that was like really rich and so i was like fuck it let's get let's get a boat let's go two boats we're gonna go fishing we're going to strip clubs we're getting car we're getting a car service we're gonna get like i just was like throw money at it so we had a blast throwing money at it is usually a good thing to do i you know particularly when it comes to you get what you pay for oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know you know these days with coke they give you a um i didn't do coke my cardiologist would kill me but we did get coke at his bachelor party and uh they give you a tester for uh fentanyl no yeah well it makes sense yeah i was like see that's the part that's the part i that's the part i don't miss obviously is like that you you know you just don't know what you're what you're getting today i mean you know i listen i I hit it at the right time.
29:44When I was running wild, that's the other part is I don't regret it
29:49Rob Lowe:because I feel like I left nothing on the table. You did it. I left it all out. Your partying is like how I feel about college. When I left college, I was like, seven years, I'm good. I did it. I did everything I wanted to do. Rolling Stone magazine wrote an article about me calling the number one party animal in the country. I'm ready for the next phase of my life. There's no reason for you to go back. You've had fame for so long, but your first splash of it was the funnest time to be in Hollywood. That was the funnest time to have ever existed in Hollywood. I feel bad for kids getting famous now because they have to talk politics.
30:28They have to talk woke talking points. They got to be careful what they say. They have social media. They've got to represent themselves on social media. like you just got to run it at like at the best fucking time
30:44Rob Lowe:yeah i agree i've i've thought about it a lot going well i mean would i would it have been better to be i don't know cary grant and those days no would it have been better to be rudolph valentine no would it be better to be uh you know leo now no it's that was it that little like that late 70s into the 90s was the time the 80s basically was the 80s because you guys there was a little bit of responsibility like back in the day they could have killed a woman and like and gotten away with it like back in the 20s but you your group is like the funnest and it was like oh it was the fucking best i'm so glad you like those movies i i love that they still have a life you know they and a movie like tommy boy which which was not looked upon when we made it as anything really um is is the one out of all of them that is that that has become um like a just occupies a place in people's hearts that i never ever would have guessed did you feel did you feel like when you were younger that you were underrepresented in your talents because you were sold to america as as literally a heartthrob but you your comedic sensibility is so strong i wonder like i was i always wonder that did you think when you were doing all these movies where it was like uh rob we just need to throw a little water on you and and let's see your chest and can you flip your hair back and and were you like hey i'm really fucking funny too by the way i i mean you know and that's why i've always been so grateful to it was really lauren michaels and Mike Myers, who really acknowledged that when I hosted SNL the first time and that's where all those movies came from.
32:38Rob Lowe:And I was so relieved and so happy because that's what I love. Like we were talking about The Grinder. That's the most fun I've ever had on a TV show. And I've been on a bunch of them and I've got a new one. I got a new one on Netflix you're going to love called Unstable. Ted Sarandos, I'm going to do a name drop, who runs Netflix and knows every piece of film ever recorded by anybody. I mean it. He's encyclopedic in his knowledge. So he's seen everything anybody's done, which means he's seen everything I've done. And he's like, it's the funniest comedy part you've ever had. And I'm like, ever?
33:14Rob Lowe:He goes, yes. And it may be because I co-created it with my son. It's my son and I, basically. Yeah. And you're really going to like it because it's me back to doing just, hard comedy, hard, like a super hard comedy character. Um, but I love it. I love that. And I love that it came, you know, in the mid part of my career. Cause it gave me a whole, you know, new, um, a new area to be excited about. How cool you haven't even gotten to play an old man yet. You still have like all those years when you're in your seventies to play old men. Like how cool is it? You got to play all the actors. Yes, that's, that's exactly it.
33:55Rob Lowe:It's like you do your, I don't know, who would have been my young ingenue phase, and then you get to do your leading man phase, and then you get to do your old. Because those old man parts, they're amazing. On Golden Pond. I think of On Golden Pond all the time. That movie was so big. It was like the one movie we owned on or didn't return on VHS, so we always had it. So I could watch On Golden Pond over and over and over again.
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35:47Rob Lowe:You know, Jane Fonda made me an honorary Fonda. Really? I am both an honorary Fonda from Jane and Peter. Wow. So it wasn't just, I mean, Jane and Peter said you are here. They didn't knight me. I don't have a thing on my lapel or anything or a medal. But I am an honorary Fonda and an honorary Baldwin. Oh, wow. That would have been a fun family to grow up in. Yeah. Yeah. Can you imagine? I can. But you can kind of see it, right? You can kind of see where I could be like the long lost Baldwin or the long lost Fonda. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The one that when Billy brings his chick home for Thanksgiving, sits down and she sees you and she goes, oh, I didn't know this guy was a Baldwin too.
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36:38Rob Lowe:This is Uncle Baldwin, Uncle Robbie Baldwin. um when you when they wrote the rolling stone article on you did you how did they approach you you're like at a frat and they're like hey there's a rolling stone reporter here this is since in 1997 yeah they write this this article how how did that how did you end up being the guy they called so this guy eric heidegard called uh like the president of the school i think i know his name was fred maglione at the time and he said you know we're doing an article on florida state uh you we we'd love a you know somebody to show us around and uh kind of give us a tour someone who knows a a wide group of people not just uh like his friends like someone who knows a lot of people and i i grew up with freddie maglione and his sister chrissy and so he just said well i know a guy named bert he would be good he'd i'll give you a few names and so he called the next guy and the next guy happened to be another guy that i'd party with the night before and he goes oh bert would be fun and then he called the third guy by the fifth guy they've all said my name and uh and so he just goes to this guy eric uh bogue he said can i get bert's number and so he gave him my number and he called my blood my roommate blair answered i was in the middle of a bong hit we were going to play frisbee golf and uh i took the phone i said hello i hit the bong and i held it in until he finished his spiel and he said you know can i stay with you for like a week in november and i exhaled the bong hit and i was like sure and he He was like, did you just do a bong hit?
38:12I was like, yeah. And he goes, I think I found the right guy. And so he came and stayed with us for a week. He was originally going to write an article on Florida State and make it about the number one party school in the country. And when he got back to New York and submitted his article, the editor of Rolling Stone, Jan, I guess his name.
38:31Rob Lowe:Jan Winner. I've had him on the show. You got to listen to my conversation with him. It was awesome. I would love to. Yeah. He said, let's just make it about this kid. let's just make it about this kid and we'll talk about the school but really talk about this kid and his partying because I was with this guy for a week and so I have fear of missing out I talk a lot I'm not going to let a conversation go dry so I just talked to him and hung out with him and did everything with this guy for a week and so he had a lot of stories about me and I was a not wild guy but I was I was a fun guy to be around I've always been fun I've always been fun and so they just changed the article made it about me and then when it came out I didn't even know it was about me I read it and the first sentence is uh it's taken Burt Kreischer six and a half years to become the man he is today the number one partier at the number one party school in the country I'm such a meathead Rob I started crying and I was like they understand me but uh but yeah you knew you knew somehow you knew somehow without knowing it that it would lead you to playing arenas that i did not i did not know i did not know that that was going to happen i had a bunch of pivotal men in my life my uncle my dad and my one of my best friends dad call me up and say um if you're ever going to capitalize on something now's when to capitalize on it if you wanted to try stand up now's when you try it if you want to get into the entertainment business now's when you make that move move to New York and try your hand to stand up.
40:08And I, I ought to be dead serious. No one was, I mean, dice did an arena. That was it. Like that was the only person ever doing arena. So like, I don't think I didn't even really know how comedy works. I knew you did it at comedy clubs, but I didn't know you'd leave New York. I didn't know. I mean, maybe you'd go to LA, but I didn't, I definitely didn't know about the road. Uh, and I, I, I just was like, maybe you get a sitcom or something. I don't, I didn't know how standup works. I just know, I knew that I love doing it and it came
40:34Rob Lowe:very natural to me and so uh yeah i just moved to new york has the business of comedy and stand-up changed much like the movie and tv business has because you're right i mean back in the day it was you know you you hope to get a shot on carson right and then that was like the biggest thing ever and then you would do the road and then maybe if you're maybe you get a sitcom do people even want to do sitcoms anymore do standings even think about that anymore uh i'm no i mean you you do a show if you were passionate about doing a show and you wanted to do a show but i mean financially it doesn't make sense to the vast majority doesn't make sense you make more money on the road oh i mean rob yeah they're not they're not paying they're not television is not paying a fraction of what we make on the road i mean not even a fraction i'm and not just me i mean i'm probably one of the higher earners but like i'm talking just regular theaters i mean theaters theater comics weekend guys selling tickets and clubs over the weekend would lose money if they did a sitcom um so yeah it's it's changed the business is unrecognizable i i don't think I mean, when I got into this, you were at the, you were at the whim of everyone in Hollywood.
41:56Nowadays, I mean, I, I don't, I can do whatever I want. I mean, I can, I have my podcast. I got two, I got my cooking show, two podcasts and my road work. And like, I remember, I remember someone was like, Hey, do you want to do this movie? And I was like, why I'm going to be sitting in Atlanta for a month and then losing money. Like I know I just, I'd rather just do the road. I, and it's what I love doing I mean I absolutely love doing podcasts I mean so much of this business has changed like I remember getting a publicist when I did my first uh when I did secret time for Netflix my first special I got a publicist and her first question was can you get on Rogan and I was like I hired you for you to tell me can I go yeah so I just called Joe I'm like hey man can I come on promote my special and he's like yeah of course I mean I mean Rob things have changed so drastically when i did my movie uh you know the machine we it's coming out memorial day weekend uh it it didn't have a distributor it was sitting on a shelf people were afraid to touch it because yeah they're afraid to touch it because it had to do with russia and so i was like and i was like i was like i know it's good and i got the teaser and i got in trouble for it but i got the teaser and i just went on rogan and i just leaked it and i was like i don't i was like if i start this ball moving then maybe it'll it's better than it's just sitting there and no one ever seeing it and it got leaked and and then sony was like hey let's do this let's do it and then and and so now we we got sony's distributing the movie and and by the way they've been the coolest partners ever because they understand my energy so like we get the actual trailer and i go hey can i can i play it in tampa and they're like no and i was like are you sure and they're like yeah i was like what would happen if i play it in tampa at my arena show for my parents and they're like just please don't and i go but am i gonna get in trouble and they're like can you just not tell us about it i guess it's amazing and so i just leaked it again i mean like but they've been the i mean they've been the funnest partner sony because they're doing they're they're like so collaborative and so fun and they get that part of what's fun as a fan is to see people breaking the rules and doing things outside the box and you know watching rogan's career blow up the way it has i just like if i look at joe and i go i think i want to leak my teaser and he goes do it i go i'm going to do it and i mean that that part of the business i don't even it's unrecognizable it's so funny i'm
44:22Rob Lowe:so bummed that i i when i did uh he he came on my podcast and he was great but i i had done his first and we hit it off we'd sort of seen each other around hollywood here and there but not really but we you know you do that podcast you really get to know him and i'm a fan of his and we're like let's go shooting this weekend so we went and went did tactical shooting and then i was like over a taron yes yeah taron yeah and then and then he moved he literally moved like that week to austin i was like god damn it yeah yeah fuck joe god damn it i was like i got a guy those assholes i know damn but it sounds like he loves austin he loves austin i'll tell you a good rogan is one of my favorite rogan stories ever so uh i had uh i i met joe probably i'm guessing maybe like 12 years ago i'm guessing i don't remember exactly i had a relationship i had a friendship couple friendships go sour like public publicly sour uh with comics and so i just was like i'm done with friends i don't need friends i got my wife i got my kids i got the tour that's it i'm good i meet rogan and uh and and uh ari and joey and and a bunch of bunch of comics i meet all these comedy store comics and i'm just keeping them at arm's distance i don't trust anyone and i don't care to deal with having a fallout with a dude i'm like i'm i'm not gonna have another fallout with another man so um so i just i'm just i'm just being distant and they're they're trying to be friends with me and i'm just like i'm being nice but i'm like i'm a whatever so we're at the ice house one night joe comes up with uh with two heinekens and two shots of uh jack daniels and he goes hey man it was we were doing a podcast and then we were doing a show i was about to go on stage and he goes uh it was a fun podcast i was like yeah yeah yeah it was great and he goes uh you're a good guy i go thanks joe and he's like you're a really good guy and uh and i'm trying to be your friend and i went okay and he goes no but you gotta let me be your friend like i'm not gonna be a dick i'm not gonna fuck with your head i just want to be your friend he's like we're all trying to be your friend and you're not letting us so if you let us be your friend we'll be your friends forever and and and i think you just need to trust us i was like and i made like a conscious decision i was like all right in my head i was like don't you fuck this up rogan like i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not so we did we take a shot he gives me a hug he goes i love you brother have a great set and i ever since that day he's been one of my closest friends i trust that dude i tell him everything him segura joey like ari i mean no ari and i go go back and forth but but uh but yeah that it's he is that dude when he becomes friends with someone he's your friend he's like a ride or die for you it's well you know guys i it's hard for dudes to open up to other guys you know what i mean i mean it's super super and i think like you said as we get older like anything we get more set in our ways and and and we go like you did the list i've got this i got that i got that i'm good it's like i'm taking my winnings and i'm leaving the casino i'm cool i don't i don't need any more of it but it's limiting at the end of the day if you don't remain open you then you don't have that that new that new friend yeah i i screwed up a bunch of friendships in that I just didn't trust anyone.
47:48Like Elliot Gould tried to become my friend. And I just was like, I was like, I remember being like, is he trying to fuck me? Like, why would he give me his number? Like, it was just like so weird. And then we went to dinner and as we got done dinner, it was like a great dinner. And he was like, I'll talk to you later. And I was like, I was like, never again. Not me, I don't trust you. Like, he didn't even try to kiss me. What's going on? But like, I just, I never trusted anyone. I just didn't trust.
48:11Rob Lowe:I don't trust that Elliot Gould wants to be your friend. I'm just saying, just that in and of itself, I'm very on its face. Of all the people you could have said, you had to have workshopped that. You'd be like, I'm going to tell a story to Rob Lowe. No, no, no. He wants to be a friend that I don't trust. I think Elliot Gould would be a great name. That's a great, I want to almost do an Elliot Gould. Hello, Bert. My granddaughter had a peach the other day. Interesting. Yes, it's something like this. he was playing a blind guy elliot cool for i think a four-year period was the biggest movie star in the world oh yeah you forget but he was yeah oh i i uh we did a sitcom together and he was playing a blind guy and i was playing uh the the dude's best friend and uh we were we were doing pickups at like two in the morning for the pilot and there was one line we couldn't get the likability of the the wife in and there was just a line where they're like they're like she comes in she goes hey you guys are drinking beers and then the idea was that i am friends with her and so i go yeah you want one she's like can i have one and i go of course and so my thing was like sure sis that was my line sure sis come on you know like it just wasn't landing it just feel felt like it wasn't real elliot's now with a dog like staring off because he's blind in this and he's just behind me the whole time so we're doing it the networks are there the studio's there everyone's there and we're doing it we're doing it 10 times and elliot gould comes up to me and he goes improv one and i went what and he goes just say something give it an improv give him an improv and i went okay so she comes in she goes can i have a beer and i go is a duck's ass water tight get in here and it gets a big pop everyone laughs and the showrunner comes up to me gets in my face he goes great one great one we're gonna do it like it was on the page because right now you're fucking me in the fucking ass at two in the morning so do it the way i fucking wrote it and he walks away and elliot gould's behind me and he goes sorry wow yeah by the way there's so much to unpack in that story it's all super valuable that's that's why it's hard to make comedies that work.
50:32Rob Lowe:You crush, but some writer's got a vested interest in his lame joke, and you die on the vine. This has been great, man. I'm psyched. This has been super, super, super fun, man. Thanks for taking the time. This is a highlight. You don't understand. I am such a fucking fan. I am such a fucking fan. This has been a real honor. Thank you very much, man. Thanks, man. Great getting to know you. We'll do more of it. I'll call you. Give me your number. We'll listen to some Steely Dan.
51:11Rob Lowe:That's a good dude. That is a good dude. And by the way, I know he's a storyteller and a great raconteur. The fact of the matter is I'm still not drinking tonight. He didn't move the needle for me. He did not meet the challenge. which I'm sad to say. There will be no, Joe Rogan can come up to him all he wants with his Heineken and his two shots. As for his friendship, ain't drinking. Sorry. Anyway, you got questions? I got answers. Let's hit the lowdown line. Hello, you've reached literally in our lowdown line where you can get the lowdown on all things about me, Rob Lowe. 323-570-4551. So have at it.
52:01Rob Lowe:Here's the beep. Hi, Rob. This is Lila calling from Virginia. I just listened to the podcast with Penn Badgley, and I'm wondering how you like this podcast and what podcasts you recommend. What do you listen to when you're between things? and in the car, listening on your earbuds, and even when you're with your family, what podcast you all listen to and something your wife might recommend. Would love to hear what podcasts you guys are all listening to in the Lo family. Thanks. Love the show. Keep it up. Bye. Hey, thank you for the call. I am a big fan of Smartless with my buddies, Jason Bateman and um will arnett and sean hayes they're just super funny together i mean my favorite part of their show is just them i'm not i i'm not even so concerned with the guests um i think they're hilarious um and i'm i'm a big fan of the of the comedy obscure comedy podcasts um and uh but honestly when i'm in the car i'm sleeping i mean i choose sleep over any podcast and then when i'm on the way home from work i am returning phone calls and just doing business but i'm going to turn the tables on you i need you to call back the low down line and you tell me what I should be listening to when I finally have a break and can really devote some time to it.
53:46Rob Lowe:Anyway, thanks for the call. I hope you guys had as much fun as I did. That was super cool. Don't forget, please, to give us a nice review on Apple. That's always good for the old show. And also, send a link to... Go through the library. Pick somebody interesting that we've talked to and send it to somebody who might have missed it. I'm running into people on the street going, oh, my friend sent me a link to your interview with so-and-so, and it's been really cool. So keep it up if you're so inclined. And join us next week, and there will be more fun and games here on Literally.
54:36Rob Lowe:and myself at Team Coco and Colin Anderson at Stitcher. Booking by Deirdre Dodd, music by Devin Bryant. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time on Literally with Rob Lowe.
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