Catherine O'Hara: Booties & Baby Pictures (Re-Release)

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26:04Rob Lowe:When the next magical thing is going to happen. And that's so great about it. And that that show found its way into the zeitgeist against all odds is, is one of the great things about what we do really, truly. Now we were really, this whole COVID thing worked out really well. That's right. Everybody's stuck at home and people are watching anything they hear about. And the people who do watch our show, who were watching our show already, are so loving and kind that they badger everyone they know to watch the show. So then suddenly people are stuck at home. They go, OK, I'll watch it. And the fact that Netflix, that made a world of difference.

26:49The day Netflix started showing our show made a big, big difference. But people really are stuck at home. And also we turned out to be the Rose family in our show turned out to be a strangely good example for people of how to live with your grown children and get to know each other when you're stuck at home for a good length of time. We're actually it's so in keeping with what so many people are living through. and you know there's the whole lovely inclusivity aspect of our show and and uh and there's just a lot of it's really written with love i think daniel levy wanted to create a world he wanted to live

27:32Rob Lowe:in and i'd like to live there too and i i also liked a quote i read of yours you said you wanted to help design a character that was going to make you interested in playing her for more than in one season. And boy, did you ever do that? I mean, well, they allowed me to speak like an alien. That really helped. They were, they were, there's not a lot of people who just go along with it. And I'd like to wear a different wig in every seat, please. Okay. Said Eugene. Yeah. What about you? When you take on, you've done lots of series. When you start out on a role, do you not get scared of, of creating something that you won't want to live with, let alone, nevermind what other people will think, but what you will stay interested in will keep you excited.

28:20And yeah.

28:21Rob Lowe:Yeah. How do you go about that? Well, I I've kind of come to a place where I accept the challenge of that. If you're going to be on a long running television show that, um, on TV, you live a character and in movies, you play a character. So movies, it's such a finite time. You know, you're going to go in and you're going to rap and you know what it is. But on a TV show, just the volume of hours, you're playing that character over time. You're living it. Some days you're sick. Some days you're happy. Some days you can't wait to get home to see the kids. Other days there's a national tragedy unfolding on the news, but you're on the stage.

29:00Rob Lowe:But whatever goes on, you're going to experience it while you're playing the character. Yeah. And that to me is what keeps it from being, what keeps it fresh is that you're right, the amount of time you're playing that character, you're inevitably going to experience a range of real life emotions. Because on a movie, you can just put all that aside for six weeks or whatever, but you can't do it when you're doing a TV show. No. And I think you're, you know, with good writing, you are allowed to have new experiences and find out about yourself. And you do go through changes if the writing allows it.

29:44Rob Lowe:Yeah. So you aren't actually, you're not actually stuck like I afraid I was going to be or what any of us were going to be when we first signed on. Yeah, you're not actually stuck. Yeah, good writing. So is it true that you modeled your character's look after my good friend, Daphne Guinness? Are you friends with Daphne Guinness? I am. I am. Well, that's great. Well, she's wild. Wild. I don't know her personally, but her determination to look different and amazing and strong, her armor like jewelry that she wears. Yeah. That's all true. That's all who she is. So for those of you out there who are just discovering Google Daphne Guinness, she's one of the great characters, extraordinary characters.

30:35Rob Lowe:I went Aaron Sorkin and I did a few good men together in the West End and Daphne came to the show and we struck up a friendship. And so I've known her ever, ever since. What's she like? Exactly. She's delivers on exactly what you want her to be like. Right. So she's very ethereal, very beautiful, very ageless, like she could be from any age or be any age. Yeah, yeah. And I have a friend who talks about Daphne coming to visit them on the beach in Mozambique in the high heat of the summer and looking up the beach and seeing her in seven inch black platform heels, black leather pants, bedazzled sleeves.

31:33Rob Lowe:and jewelry and hair and huge sunglasses. And that's, I mean, well, you know what she is? She's a female Karl Lagerfeld. There's a lot of that, right? I wore some Karl Lagerfeld fingerless gloves on the show several times. Yeah, she's a big believer in fingerless gloves. She's a deaf, you can see, once you see her pictures of her, you know how much she inspired me and our wardrobe department, Debra Hansen and Daniel Levy, who had a big hand in it. Yeah, I signed on to do the role, and then Eugene and Daniel invited me to lunch to talk about details. And I brought my iPad with... I looked at it recently.

32:18It was like 150 pictures of Daphne Guinness.

32:21Rob Lowe:How did you know about Daphne? How did she get on your radar? I discovered it just, somebody blessed me with that. I was just looking for looks. I know somebody, you know Lisa Eisner? Yes. Lisa Eisner, yeah, she designs amazing jewelry and she's just a great character. And she dresses really wild and strongly all the time. And so I was looking for her for outfits because I wanted to bring pictures of her to Daniel and Eugene. and um i don't know maybe i looked up black and white because i do love black and white i look black and white something or extreme dressing or urban or uh exotic dressing or you know whatever and found a picture of daffodine again it's like oh my god who is this woman yeah and then brought them 150 pictures and daniel you know i opened up the ipad and started running through them and daniel went yes yes how great though that you have a collaborator though in Daniel who is open to that vision and gets it.

33:24Oh, yeah. And makes it happen, actually executes it, you know? Because I'm sure you've had this where you have meetings with wardrobe or a director, producer, whatever, before you take a role, and then you show up for your first fitting. And everyone says yes. But it's amazing when you're talking anything creative that you're not actually seeing, even when you see it sometimes, but when you're talking creative ideas and everyone thinks they're on the same page and everyone goes, yeah, oh yeah, let's do that. Yeah, great. Okay. So then with wardrobe, you show up on that first day and there's a rack full of the most foreign looking things to what the conversation was.

34:03Just what, what, what, was there anything here? Let's start oh maybe that skirt i'll try just so that's happened so many times so it's one thing um for me to come in with pictures of daphne guinness i didn't have to shop i didn't have to find everything i didn't have to put it together accessorize it anything that was all deborah hansen and daniel levy and we had to have authentic high-end you know clothes from

34:33Rob Lowe:You can't fake. No, no. They did mix. They'll mix in some Zara and H &M Once in a Blue Moon, you know, especially for Annie's stuff. I think some cute little dresses and things. But overall, no, I was wearing like$10 ,000 boots. But Daniel and Deb Hansen would shop all year online and have stuff in their dream carts waiting for prices to go down. Because we don't have that budget. We didn't have that budget. Did you keep any of it? You must have kept some of the good stuff, I'm hoping. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they were very kind about that. Keep waiting for a bill to be sent, and they haven't done it yet, so I'm going to just go with, they've given it to me.

35:11Rob Lowe:Here's what you need to do. There is a double Academy Award-winning actress who shall go unnamed, and it's her rule that if she, as her character, touches anything on the set, it's hers. so um you guys can all do the math and try to figure out who this is it shouldn't be too hard but the the the rule it's called the that's her name rule and so i think you need to invoke that rule well i didn't have to i worked with the levy gentlemen they just canadian again canadians nice canadians yeah and at the end you know the racks and racks of amazing things but I can't pull off most of it I'm not my character um but there were so many beautiful pieces you know we were evacuated last October thank God not this year but evacuated three in the morning last year and as you do you run through the house if you haven't organized things like like I didn't um you know you run through the house looking for passports and documents and you know pictures of your babies and you know baby pictures from kids and just all that stuff and I kept running by this rack of moira clothes and as i was looking for the other things you're supposed to gather and i i thought i can't no i no i'm not so i grabbed like i don't know about eight ten pieces of clothes and the givonji booties they're just so cool a lot of the baby pictures of myself no of the kids um yeah givonji booties and baby pictures i was happy to have them because you never know thank god we were spared but you gotta have some things that you know not just documents and passports but things that to remind you of joyful times yeah easy said for me we were spared uh where what evacuation was this was this the fires yeah the getty the getty fire oh the getty fire yeah because we're we're in brettwood very close it was very close up up tiger tail and yeah oh for sure Very sad.

37:15Very sad. Yeah.

37:17Rob Lowe:I know what I also want to ask you about. You had a Paul Lind imitation. Is this true? When I was nine or ten. Who didn't? There you go. I only did men for my dad. Make them laugh. Make them laugh. Oh yeah. It was like this.

37:42That's really good.

37:43Rob Lowe:No, you don't understand. Yeah, they're making a Paul Lind movie, and I'm so disappointed that I'm not playing Paul Lind. Really? I feel like it's a role I was born to play. That's quite a claim. I know. That's great. Well, why aren't you? Why aren't you? I don't know. I don't know. Well, how do you know you're not? Because I think I read someone was playing it. I want to feel like it was a Greg Kinnear or somebody. I don't know. I need to get on this. Don't you think? I mean. Yeah. Don't you want to see a movie like that takes place up, you know, Mount Olympus off Laurel Canyon in 1976 with me as Paul Lin doing Whippets with Pool Boys and then rushing off to the Farmer's Daughter bar next to CBS Television City.

38:35Rob Lowe:Getting fucked up and then going on. I mean, that's a movie I want to do. And how happy would Paul Lin be knowing you're playing him? How flattering is that? That would be wonderful. Yeah. I think he'd like that. I mean. I think you should let people know. Center Square. Who else do you do? Do. I do, you know, I do some of the usuals, the Clinton, the Chris Walkins, you know. Oh, excellent. I do Lorne, of course, who doesn't do Lorne. I think I haven't gotten through it. We were almost going to get through this podcast without me doing Lorne. This was going to be the first one. Oh, really? And now you've led me into it.

39:13Rob Lowe:It's up to you. You've led me into it. It's up to you. The mouth is going already. It's already starting. I once asked, because I have a son named Matthew. I know you have a son named Matthew. Yes. So then I was trying to think of another name for my second son. And I was really struggling because, you know, names have a meaning. And you're like, oh, I like this name, but I knew a guy in seventh grade who was a dick who had that name. So that name's that. You go through all that stuff. And I was really struggling with the name. And I was on the phone with Lauren and he said, my advice, I think the king's names work best.

39:52Oh, he means it. That's great. That's great.

39:55Rob Lowe:Isn't that the greatest? Yeah. Excellent. He also said, I was redesigning my house. He goes, Rob, the thing is when you get older, you'll find yourself being drawn to wood. To wood? Mm-hmm. it's that does he say it's that thing a lot you know it's that thing it's that no no no don't misunderstand it's that thing really good jeez so you're actually doing lauren you're not doing dana carvey doing lauren or right doing lauren yeah you're actually doing lauren did you go to the tate modern when you were in london and see the haystacks they're breathtaking That's great. I know. I'll never get him on the show now.

40:42Rob Lowe:He'll never come on. And I mean, he's going to be. Yes, he will. Sure he will. He's become the great white whale of the show. It started out as Bruce Springsteen and it's quickly morphed into Lorne. And like once, if I ever, then I can like retire from my ill-fated podcasting career. Get Lorne. And, you know, that'll be the end of it. Did you already get Springsteen? No, no. I haven't gotten him either, but I'm... I'm gonna... I don't know. I'd make him sound like a Warner Brothers. That's really good. He's doing a lot of stuff right now. He's doing a lot of interviews right now. I know. The new album is insane.

41:22Rob Lowe:It's so good. And the documentary where they're all in the studio. The studio of a thousand guitars. Yeah, you know. You know your Springsteen. I've seen them. I've seen him. Did you ever see the show Ben Stiller, Judd Apatow, produced a few years ago? You guys know what it is. Where he plays Springsteen and everyone's gone home and he's cleaning the floor. He outlives everyone. That and, of course, Ben when he does Tom Cruise, who I also do. Oh, yes. In fact, my early... Sheesh. When I started on Parks and Recreation, there was a minute and a half where they were writing my Tom Cruise impersonation into Chris Traeger, but it didn't really take, it wasn't really, it didn't really fit what we were doing, but Mike Schur, who created Parks and Rec, was very enamored with my Cruise impersonation, which really, you know how like, sometimes you only have one bit and your entire impersonation is literally, it's one bit.

42:24Rob Lowe:You have one move and that's it, but it's a good move and it works, right? So mine was Tom ordering water. at a restaurant. That was my entire Tom Cruise because it was true. I mean, I vividly remember this as an 18-year-old kid going, oh, oh, that's a thing. And it's just the notion of like having a nice conversation with somebody over the table and then the waiter comes up and says, you know, what would you like? And you're like, haha, I would like water. I'd like it in a glass. I would like lemon in it. I would like it to be room temperature. anyway and just like like super intense and specific about something like that not for a laugh oh no no no super wow like like wow yeah so there was a minute where where my character did that kind of stuff and then we're like that's great that's great wow you're good at this sheesh have you ever played the game marty short used to make his place all the time where you give each other people to do that you've never done and you have to try to do them that's really scary oh i did once on the on the tonight show i got jay leno to agree to do it and um oh and the other gas shite was oh lovely guy that was in the um ah he's australian actor this is huge jackman his name no huge no nobody is russell crow that's good that's good no he was in the movie about the Olympics that Spielberg directed.

43:54He's a really good actor.

43:56Rob Lowe:Oh, oh, Eric Bonner? Thank you. Eric Bonner was the other guest. And I guess he was out first because he was there. And then I came out and Jay Leno had agreed to do this. And I said, okay, we'll give each other names to do and we have to impersonate. And I gave something to Jay Leno and he made a great attempt. Gave something to Eric Bonner. Made a great attempt. I did the anti-improv rule thing. They gave me somebody. They gave me Liz Taylor. And I said, well I've done her no and then they gave me somebody else no give me somebody living it was just so bad because I knew what I wanted to do and I said I said can I um give me someone living and Eric Mann had just worked with uh Scarlett Johansson so I said um okay Scarlett Johansson yeah um is it okay if I say puck on tv and Jay Leno said of course and I said okay here's um Scarlett Johansson in the morning before she puts her teeth in.

44:50Oh, I love that fucking Eric Ben. Fucking Shantam.

44:58Rob Lowe:That is the most, that's quite genius. That's really cheap. That is such a, I had such a safety, safety guard going in my mind. That's all back. So, yeah. That's a really good game. But it's really good if you're playing with you and Marty Short. No, I'm not good at it. And it's so scary, especially if you've never tried doing something before, just to have a sound come out of your mouth, just to make that first sound is such a leap, leap of faith. Okay, I'll give you something to do. You don't have to give me anything. Yeah, no, I know. I'm up for this challenge. I'm very competitive, very competitive.

45:36Rob Lowe:The minute you said game, I was like, let's go. Give me one. Okay. Well, here's the thing is, I really have to, like, it's a podcast, so they're not getting half my artillery is the visual. But just know that going in. Oh, that's true. You're grading on a curve. No, your voices have been great, though. Your voices have been great. Eh. All right. No, are you kidding? You know it. Hit me with one. Hit me with one. Hit you with one. Yeah, okay. Something good. I did say red buttons, but that's too old to reference. Red buttons. Oh, my God. I would it would be a scene from the Poseidon Adventure that's all I ever saw Red Buttons in that's great is it Red Buttons?

46:18no

46:19Rob Lowe:but Poseidon Adventure do Gene Hackman okay see but I I want to do him hanging from I want to do him hanging from this the screw before he drops into the flaming water God if you don't let these people get through this upside down world in this upside down boat. There is no...

46:55Wow. How about that? You better put that in your kit.

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51:31Rob Lowe:So here's something interesting. Christopher Guest, who is a certified genius, and you're shaking your head. Yes, everybody knows it. No, I'm nodding. I'm nodding. Nodding your head. Nodding your head. I didn't mean shaking your head. No, I meant shaking your head. Yes. Here's what I've witnessed about him that I found really fascinating. Yes. I was able to observe him at a party surrounded by some of the funniest people on the planet. it and whether it was Steve Martin, Marty Short, Tom Hanks, I think Ron Howard was there. I mean, funny, smart people and everybody, whenever anyone told a joke or told a story or anything before anyone reacted, they looked at Chris.

52:21Rob Lowe:Oh, I knew you were going to say that. Oh, I knew you were going to say that. Yeah. Yes. He's the. He comes off as the toughest critic in the world. and he's also really smart and really funny when we improvised uh the scenes in the movies that we did or that i was part of with him um everyone else kind of repeated a joke here and there you know from take to take you know not the whole thing but you know i thought oh there was a you know it was a uh something happened with sound that take is dead okay well i might i might just true that i came up with that joke i'm gonna try some i'll try to get it in there again um chris guest never repeated a thought from take to take to take at his characters.

53:03Just so ridiculously inventive and creative and funny. So, yeah, you just and he's very dry, really dry. So you just look to him.

53:13Rob Lowe:You need to create a different story for him. Dry doesn't begin to. Yeah. He's the Sahara. But when he are you friends with him? I know him a little bit through. I've known Jamie, his wife, Jamie Lee, forever and ever and ever. And so we would run into each other. And I like him very much, but I wouldn't say that we're very close. But he's obviously amazing. Well, I'm not really close either. I don't see him. I've only seen him when I worked with him. But once he does let you in as a friend, he's so affectionate and sweet. And he laughs and laughs. And he's so lucid. It's just the rest of the time he just does not suffer fools and everybody wants to be his fool.

53:59Rob Lowe:That's a great phrase. You're right. He doesn't suffer fools and everybody wants to be his fool. It's really. Hey, I'm improvising, eh? Oh, you're good at that. Oh, you really do. He, okay, Corky St. Clair. Oh, with a backward pit. That's, I mean, I don't know in the pantheon of great characters, that for me might be, because I feel like I've been directed by Corky St. Clair multiple times in my career. Then you're lucky. Someone very loving and supportive and encouraging. It just wants you to be the best you could possibly be. That's what it was like. And then there was Bob Balaban's character who looked at us like, how did you get here?

54:44Rob Lowe:Well, you're right about Corky Sinclair, but the other part about Corky Sinclair is he's completely without talent. That's the other part. Says who? that's i i it's there's something so endearing slash infuriating about someone who's so energetically lovingly like supportive who has no clue what they're doing and oh he does isn't directing a lot of directing nurturing and taking care of people and considering what everyone's going through and empathizing with everyone. It is true. You got to have that. The great ones all do, right? Don't you think? That's, that's Corky. That's Corky St. Clair.

55:35Oh man, what a great character, but also took himself so seriously. Corky took himself so seriously.

55:43Rob Lowe:Could you choose your favorite Chris Guest movie or no? All of them. No, I don't know. I don't know. No, they're all they were all just amazingly challenging, scary and fun to do. But the best was just watching everyone else work. But waiting for Guffman the night before I shot for the first time, they'd already shot for a week or so. When I got in and Chris just said, I'll just tell you one thing. Don't try to be funny. Just be in the scene. and you know that we shot 90 something hours of improvisation for those movies based on a on a really um clean and great and well-written outline you know all the scenes that are in the outline ended up being the scenes in the movie they're exactly as you know as structured um as originally structured but the dialogue is improvised um and so we you know we'd improvise 90 something hours whatever and they cut down to Chris would cut it down to 92 minutes I think so the so you knew once you got going that there was going to be a lot of stuff that's just going to disappear which takes a lot of weight off of you know the pressure trying to be funny but that was that was scary but really fun the thing that was fun about that um waiting for Guffman is we kind of moved around in a group we were all together Parker Posey and Eugene and Fred Willard God bless them and you know we're all we were together in a group as the with the other movies we sort of we were playing very different characters in their different worlds and then who came together you know for the event at the end but we had our different lives going on so it was really fun to sort of um be introduced to the world of improvising a movie with that group there all the time you know yeah he got really good at lowering himself out of a scene if he was going to laugh so they wouldn't blow the take there's a there's a car scene a car a car dealership where um where uh corky's showing us how to do his dance which i don't know if you remember just pushing his pelvis forward and we're all trying to imitate it and eugene could not control his laughter but instead of blowing the take he lowered himself out of frame there was another scene the library we're doing another kind of rehearsal thing and fred was really making eugene laugh so eugene just snuffed behind one of the library shelves, got his laugh out of his system and came back in the scene.

58:08Really fun. Sorry, I can't pick a favorite. I don't know. I don't know. They were all, they were all, yeah, I love them all. I mean, it's hard.

58:17Rob Lowe:It's for me is Guffman, Best in Show. I mean, they're perennial. Those are movies I have to watch once a year for sure. For sure. And for your consideration, has turned into a very good how not to lesson for Eugene and me. We keep reminding each other, you know, award season. You get into that world and people are talking about whether or not you're going to win and we just keep reminding each other of the characters and for your consideration. Okay, let's just keep a perspective. Well, listen, you won the Emmy this year. We didn't think we were going to because we were trained by that movie. So we did not expect it.

59:01That was a nice surprise.

59:03Rob Lowe:You won the Emmy this year. What was that like? Tell me, because I've never won one. You haven't? Well, you should have. You've been nominated. I don't know. Surely you've been nominated. I have been. I'm a perennial bridesmaid. Did you get sucked into the game when you were nominated? As Tom Hanks calls it, the trophy run. This is my favorite. He said that with no irony. He said, yeah, no, around the holidays, as usually it's kind of involved in the trophy run. And I thought, wow, that is the greatest. Oh, that's great. The trophy run. Yeah, and he has been many times. And he has been. It's like Ty Cobb said, it ain't bragging if you've done it.

59:42Rob Lowe:And he done it many times. That's great. What was it like? Did you think you were going to win? No, I honestly didn't. And I felt like I was getting set up because, you know, my agent kept sending me things you know pieces that said I was going to win and um I thought no I've seen this I won't name names but I've seen this happen to too many people where they're set up you know and I kept thinking for your consideration the movie um so no by by time um uh it was going to be announced I convinced myself no I wasn't going to and I wanted the show to win I thought that would be so great for Eugene and Daniel I really did want the show to win but i did not honest to god didn't expect it and was so happy to be with everyone you know we um i think daniel talked eugene into having something and so it was going to be a barbecue in eugene's backyard then there was a whole covid thing and then they had i think 50 people invited two days before and and they moved it to where we were castle loma in toronto um it's kind of an event place it's old castle um and then two days before the emmys or before the party uh the ontario premiere changed the law so that it was maximum 25 people outdoors maximum 10 indoors they had to uninvite or disinvite half the people and they were all people who'd been nominated for the show and um and of course everybody we wanted to see and be with so that part was sad but then And we got there and then I looked around.

1:01:14We're all dressed up. And we got, I thought, how do we have stylus for a Zoom thing? What are we doing?

1:01:20Rob Lowe:You could be naked from the waist down. Nobody would know. Well, apparently you do find out. That's right. Oh, dear. What was he thinking? Yeah, so we got all dressed up. And when I got there, I thought, oh, this looks like we think we're going to win. This is almost too pretty and too fancy and too lovely. And we had this lovely dinner party. And they had two producers in it, a big screen. and you could see the other nominees. And then they said, okay. And we all got tested, of course. We're safe to be with each other. But we wore masks. And they said, but if you win, you're going to go up to a microphone.

1:01:56Oh, come on. That looks like we think we're going to win. Can we just stay in our seats if we win? And I'm not thinking we're going to. They said, well, everyone else is going to go to the microphone. Okay, so then I look like I can't walk. Okay, so I have to go if I do, but I won't. And they say, okay, we're about to start. and your category is the first one up. Just because it makes you feel kind of sickly. But then Jimmy Kimmel and Jennifer Hassen did that ridiculous bit with the fire burning up the cart. And not for a second was I think, oh, hurry, get to it. I was just laughing. You know, the silly bit.

1:02:29She was so good with the extinguisher. Yeah, I better go at it again. Yeah, this looks bad. And then he read my name. And I have that card now. Jimmy Kimmel sent it to me. So great. Half burned away, but my name is still in there. Yeah. And then, sorry, I've gone on way too long. And then Eugene won. And then Daniel won for writing. And then I got to Annie, and she's sitting beside me. And I said, it was about to announce her category. I said, now you have to win. Sorry, you actually have to win now.

1:03:00Rob Lowe:That's right. Now, yeah, now you have to. And she said, who do I apologize to first? So sad. It was insane. It was insane. And it just, you know, we got nine in a row. It's amazing. And that's unusual for a category to be lumped. But they don't usually lump all the, you know, one category together, do they? No. No. So it really became un-Canadian and greedy after a while for us. And so we got through the nine awards, all the comedy, and then they cut off our feed. And then we're all just kind of stunned, screaming, looking at each other. and no uh redo plays patrick other shows that you realize no other shows won anything yet it's like oh this is wrong this is too much it's just too much that yeah because they they they that was the year that they like you said it was comedy and then they went to drama instead of alternating back and forth so you guys just steamrolled everybody that was yeah and of course we expected all of that didn't we yes oh of course so let me ask you this if you if you god forbid are ever evacuated again what do you and you can only take one thing is it the emmy or the or or is it your order of canada no i think it'll be a passport the kids pictures oh that's so boring well you said one thing come on what kind of mother human would i be that's true mother first human second which kid would you take let me ask you that you only take one kid oh my god Kathy's choice Kathy's choice Kathy's Canadian choice Which kid would you take?

1:04:39Oh my god, can you imagine?

1:04:41Rob Lowe:I know Listen, I'm open to being lobbied I mean, I Fully Fully Would have no problem saying to my boys Look, I'm only taking one of you What's in it for me I would say You decide decide oh that's sickening what a horrible thought no that's it my kids are never living with me again i want them to be somewhere else safe i like it do you know that trick with kids with kids when they want when they're mad about who's going to get the bigger size of something candy or the most of a drink no what trick is this you say okay one of you will pour or divide it and the other will choose. Wow. And it makes every kid be fairer than they've ever been in their lives.

1:05:33Dividing up whatever that is.

1:05:35Rob Lowe:Oh, the meticulousness. It's a really good trick. Would then transpire. What a good thing. Where was that when I needed it when I had these eight-year-old and six-year-olds running around my house? Yeah, fighting over stuff. No, they didn't. Did they get along? Did they love each other? They did. Yeah, they really did. And still do. And now we're all back in the house. We're all still living. Your Schitt's Creek is the ultimate version of what we're living. I like to think of it as we're living in a failed sitcom. Because to me, it's like every sitcom that doesn't work. And yours did work where they're all back together.

1:06:16Rob Lowe:But they're, and it's been great. It's really been great. and everybody gets along and it's been really fun. And we've been catching up on, you know, great stuff on Netflix and, you know. Yeah, yeah. Watch you guys. Like in the show, I think adult children are getting to see their parents as humans, just adults. It's not like you have to be best friends, but you sort of, you know, I think I've stopped lecturing as much as I used to. When I saw the once in a while, it's like, you see the once in a while, it's like, I want to tell you everything I know about life right now. I have five minutes with you.

1:06:55But when you get to spend those days together, nights together, you relax and you just sort of, in a much healthier way, start, I hope anyway, start letting each other be. You know, even kids let their parents be.

1:07:11Rob Lowe:yeah there's there's when you're when you're going through what everybody has gone through and continues to go through it it just it just gets so real it's real it's like there's no there's no putting a brave face there's no putting any face on it no it just is what it is what it is and they i think it's been good for everybody to see you know the warts and all you know of because they, you know, I think kids look at parents and think, you know, parents are these unknowable figures, you know, and our kids are also mysteries to us in many ways. And a lot of that's good. A lot of that is as it should be.

1:07:53Rob Lowe:But a lot, boy, you want to take the mystery out of something? Live with people 24-7 for nine months, right? But if you can survive, if you survive it, that's, yeah. And if you can actually let each other be, give each other a little space if you're lucky enough to have some space. Yeah, it's good. I think we're all looking at how life could be different from now on, not with or without virus. Just I think we've really found out what things work and don't work and how many people can actually work at home. Wow. Well, I've been shooting my show, 9-1-1, Lone Star. We're back, and, you know, Disney is our studio, and the protocols are the most unbelievable.

1:08:37Rob Lowe:You know the famous shots of the astronauts walking down the gantry to get in? That's what it looks like coming from craft service. Wow. It's just sad. Wow. And it's all boxed, right? You can't just go and order what you want. You order ahead of time, and these are real problems, aren't they? You can't order ahead of time. But no, you can't go in like certain – everybody goes in different doors. Everybody is like quadranted off. We have to wear two masks. We wear the mask mask and then the face shield. Right. And I'm deaf in one ear anyway. So I can't hear much. And then I realize I lip read so much.

1:09:19Rob Lowe:So I just – I have no relationship with anybody anymore on my show at all because I can't. I can't communicate. Oh, my God. Lip reading. I thought of this. Yeah. What happens with masks and lip reading? You just ask people to speak louder? Yeah. And you get tired of doing that. And eventually you just check out. And that's the really sad part is it really is too hard to communicate. It's really rough. Yeah. You know, but... I'm sorry, what? I'm like, huh? Yeah. Then they lift it up to speak and you go, ah! No, you can't. No, then the sort of COVID police jump in. Oh, yeah. How often do you have to get tested for your work?

1:10:16Rob Lowe:I get tested every three days. Wow. And, and my, honestly, my nose is starting to feel it. Like, I, I, I definitely have a permanent, like, I'm aware of my nose. Yeah. Permanently. You get the, you get the swirl though, not the stick in the brain. My nose hasn't felt like this since 1986 and, you know, Nels in Lower Manhattan with Andy Warhol. I would know. I never did that. Yeah, That stuff. I saw too many people be stupid. Couldn't get it in Canada. Believe me. I tried. Oh, no. It was everywhere. I shot Youngblood up there. I know what was going on up there. Youngblood? In 1984. I know it wasn't going on, unfortunately.

1:11:05But wait, are you producing the show? Because as an actor, you can't wear two masks, right?

1:11:10Rob Lowe:Yeah, as a producer, I'm wearing two. But I'm rarely on the set when I'm not acting. But we wear the masks for everything but actual shooting. So the rehearsals, like I said, are like really problematic. It's like, what?

1:11:29Yeah.

1:11:30Rob Lowe:It's very tough. Wow. Yeah. But at least we're working. Look, we're lucky. A lot of folks aren't working. We're alive. We're alive. We're alive. You're working. You're working enough for all of us. and and you know my my nose is happy to be getting attention again after so many years of falling into disrepair i have permanent damage from uh getting tested the stick up the brain um from a sinus infection years ago oh and i have yeah i have like perpetually just slightly runny nostril on my left side and it's terrible it's terrible for working i'm always asking makeup artist. Do I have anything?

1:12:13Poor girl has to look.

1:12:14Rob Lowe:Yeah, no. You know what the phrase for that is? Are there any bats in the cave? Ew! Gross. Ew! It's not bats, though. Gross! It's a very clean, clear, tiny bit of liquid. That's all it is, okay? That's all it is. Bats in the cave. Hey, any bats in the cave? Ew. Ew. Well, this has been great. I love this. I love talking to you. I've been a fan forever. Thank you. A lot of people I get on the podcast. Me of you, too. Aw. I'm sorry. Thank you. I have been a fan of yours forever, too. Not as long, because you're a lot younger. Nonsense. Listen, we both love Paul Lund, so what else matters?

1:12:59Rob Lowe:Yeah, I'm going to leave this. I'm going to call our mutual manager. Okay. And I'm going to say, you're fired unless you get me the role as Paul Lund. Absolutely. And Catherine, who would, okay, we'll end with this. Who, I want you to be in it. What character can you be? Can you play Sandy Duncan in the corner square? Would that be a thing? Oh, that's great. Oh, no, I don't know if you're Robin, if you know Robin Duke. She, she, uh, play a role. Okay. She should play. She knows she's beyond as Sandy Duncan. She actually looks like her. Okay. Who, who would you be? Would Joey Heatherton, would Joey Heatherton be in there?

1:13:31Rob Lowe:I like Joey Heatherton. A slightly older Joey Heatherton. Who else is in that period? Oh. Could you play Wally Cox?

1:13:41Yes. I'll do anything for you. I kind of like you as Wally Cox.

1:13:48Rob Lowe:I want to see you stretch those beautiful wings. Oh, yeah. What's his voice? I think he's just kind of, I think he's very nerdy and he's got a mustache that's like this. Very nerdy, but not cool. I don't really know the answer to that, Peter Lawford, or whatever the hell his name is. Peter Marshall. Peter Marshall. Of course you don't. What do you know? You know nothing. Excellent. And who's the guy? Who's the guy who used to be a match game? The old match game. Gene Rayburn. No, the guy who was basically Paul Lynn. Oh. His delivery was exactly like that. Oh, Nelson Reilly. Oh, Charles Nelson Reilly.

1:14:26Rob Lowe:Another one. Do you guys know who this is? Because all his answers were like that too. Charles Nelson Reilly, he was also hoodoo in Lidsville. And if we start going down my Sid and Marty Croft rabbit hole, then it's good. That's great. Yeah. My husband designed Land of the Lost movie. No way. Yeah, that was all on stage. Oh, my God. The detail and the beautiful paintwork on those trees and vines. My favorite joke in the movie is basically an homage to your husband then. Because it's Will Ferrell in the temple where all the crystals are. Yeah. It's the Sleestack Temple or whatever. Sleestack. And he says, this looks like the set of a Telemundo telethon.

1:15:18Rob Lowe:It's my favorite joke in the show. That's great. And we, I swear at least once a week, one of us will say to the other one, we made a mistake, not cool Chaka. Chaka? Sarisa Chaka? Which is from that. Yeah. The fact that I know Chaka's language is deeply upsetting, even to me. Wow. You're an encyclopedia. Of bad television. Of something, yes. Of something. That's what my wife says. The great Catherine O 'Hara, thank you. Usually a lot of folks on the show I know it and have a long history with. And this is the other part of the show that I love is when I get to meet someone I've always admired.

1:16:01Rob Lowe:and start a history. So our history began today, just so you know. Yes, please. I want to become as good a friend to you as Daphne Guinness. Oh, darling. I've got great stories. I'm going to send you some stories. I'm going to try to find some photos and I'll send it to you through our mutual manager. Excellent. Of your muse. And before you tell something funny, say, you won't believe how funny this is. Way to hear this joke. Oh, this is such a great joke. This is, wait, let me just, hey, you're going to love this. I'm going to kill myself. Thank you, darling. Thank you so much. God bless you.

1:16:34Stay safe, all of you.

1:16:35Rob Lowe:Thank you. That was fun. Bye-bye. Thank you. That was fun. Thanks. That was fun. I love it. And I am going to go get on this Paul Lind thing. I'm going to get on it right now. By the way, I'm sure all of you listening have no interest in seeing me in that part. And I completely understand it. It doesn't mean I don't want to do it. I want to thank Catherine. She was so sweet to take time out of her busy day to talk to me. and it's inspired me to watch Waiting for Guffman again tonight. And if you've never seen Waiting for Guffman, get a life. It is beyond belief or best in show, but start with those because I'm assuming everybody's seen Schitt's Creek.

1:17:19Rob Lowe:But trust me, you won't go wrong. And anyway, I will see you next week. Thanks for coming back. And by the way, if you guys, it'd be great if you give us a review on Apple. We like that. It's helpful for the show. I read them. So be nice to me because my feelings are easily hurt. So go to Apple and give us some good stars. All right, bye. You have been listening to Literally with Rob Lowe. Produced and engineered by me, Devin Torrey-Briatt. Executive produced by Rob Lowe for Low Profile. Adam Sachs and Jeff Ross at Team Coco. and Colin Anderson and Chris Bannon at Stitcher. The supervising producer is Aaron Blair.

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